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How Bad Could It Get? US Government Order Of 160,000 HazMat Suits Gives A Clue
Now that Ebola is officially in the US on an uncontrolled basis, the two questions on everyone's lips are i) who will get sick next and ii) how bad could it get?
We don't know the answer to question #1 just yet, but when it comes to the second one, a press release three weeks ago from Lakeland Industries, a manufacturer and seller of a "comprehensive line of safety garments and accessories for the industrial protective clothing market" may provide some insight into just how bad the US State Department thinks it may get. Because when the US government buys 160,000 hazmat suits specifically designed against Ebola, just ahead of the worst Ebola epidemic in history making US landfall, one wonders: what do they know the we don't?
From Lakeland Industries:
Lakeland Industries, Inc. (LAKE), a leading global manufacturer of industrial protective clothing for industry, municipalities, healthcare and to first responders on the federal, state and local levels, today announced the global availability of its protective apparel for use in handling the Ebola virus. In response to the increasing demand for specialty protective suits to be worm by healthcare workers and others being exposed to Ebola, Lakeland is increasing its manufacturing capacity for these garments and includes proprietary processes for specialized seam sealing, a far superior technology for protecting against viral hazards than non-sealed products.
"Lakeland stands ready to join the fight against the spread of Ebola," said Christopher J. Ryan, President and Chief Executive Officer of Lakeland Industries. "We understand the difficulty of getting appropriate products through a procurement system that in times of crisis favors availability over specification, and we hope our added capacity will help alleviate that problem. With the U.S. State Department alone putting out a bid for 160,000 suits, we encourage all protective apparel companies to increase their manufacturing capacity for sealed seam garments so that our industry can do its part in addressing this threat to global health.
Of course, purchases by the US government are bought and paid for by taxpayers. For everyone else there's $1200 mail-order delivery:
That said... 160,000 HazMats for a disease that is supposedly not airborne? Mmmk.
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CAN GOODS AND SHOTGUNS...
BITCHEZ!
More Halloween costume ideas!!! Trick or Treat...
I guess 'they' are really playing up the shit show so they can promote the vaccine that will fight off this awful virus.
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You dont want your vaccine? - 'We have a nice spot for you in Camp FEMA.'
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Pick your poison.
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Neville: My name is Robert Neville. I am a survivor living in New York City.
I am broadcasting on all AM frequencies. I will be at the South Street Seaport everyday at mid-day, when the sun is highest in the sky. If you are out there... if anyone is out there... I can provide food, I can provide shelter, I can provide security. If there's anybody out there... anybody... please. You are not alone.
Update - Flight "Patient Dallas" took had at least 3 stops between Liberia & Dallas, and went on to Brussels.
Just to make it convenient, here it is again (based upon analysis of CDC's own data, timeline between median infection point and 1st presentation of symptom, etc.) - *editorial (mine) - Press conference yesterday was absolutely PR attempt to quash concern (rational concern) and verifiably inaccurate information/statements were disseminated/made.
Dallas Ebola Victim Likely Acquired His Infection During Flight -YouTube
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW_jvTSNvxo
10 hours ago - 3 min - Uploaded by polyglot
Check out CDC timeline for median time first symptoms appear 5.5 days from time of contraction of Ebola virus.
Do the math given the time of the Dallas patient's flight itinerary from Africa to U.S., and presentation of first symptoms.
This guy in video uses timeline & CDC's own data (median 5.5 day period between contraction & 1 st symptoms) demonstrate greater than 50% likelihood Dallas Ebola patient was infected during flight to U.S., meaning there is at least one more (and likely more than one more - given 17 1/2 hour flight) infected person on flight.
And think about this; assuming CDC could successfully track each possible person exposed to "Patient Dallas," it takes quarantine room & average of 25 properly (standard of care & containment) vetted health workers to monitor, treat and/or keep person isolated.
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1) Assuming "Dallas Patient" is not patient zero on flight, CDC hasn't tracked Patient Zero (or admitted it).
2) Median delay between contraction of Ebola virus and onset of symptoms is 5 1/2 delays; this can range all the way to 21 days. Theoretically, Patient Zero could display symptoms well after "Dallas Patient" has/did.
3) Close contact sufficient to transmit Ebola Virus is a 3 foot diameter, and chances of transmission with that proximity or closer increase statistically with time. Flight on commercial airliner from Africa to U.S. Is close to 20 hours without any stop-overs.
One last quote from 'I am Legend'
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Anna: In 2009, a deadly virus burned through our civilization, pushing humankind to the edge of extinction. Dr. Robert Neville dedicated his life to the discovery of a cure and the restoration of humanity. On September 9th (9/11), 2012, at approximately 8:49 P.M., he discovered that cure. And at 8:52, he gave his life to defend it. We are his legacy. This is his legend. Light up the darkness.
Our GOV't, ALL ABOUT...: BULLETS & HAZMAT SUITS...
Long barbed wire, fishhooks, punji stakes, and birdshot.
Meh, hazmat suits as a false sense of security.
Molon Labe.
WRONG!!
Barbed wire, fishhooks, punji stakes & birdshot will make em spew infected blood all over you!
Fill four or more five gallon cans with gas... mix in some Styrofoam til you get the right thickness...
Zippo lighters work miracles!
Boris is confusing... CDC is for "Disease Control", no? Why is make illogical statement that is not want strict quarantine because is incite public panic. This is sound like is "Population Control" methodology of disingenuous propaganda. Please to explain for Boris!
Nyet comrade
CDC is to say "Center for Disease Creation"
Answer question, no?
Ah, now is compute. Boris is struggle with plethora of Amerikanski institutional acronym.
Listen, Calm-the-fuck "DOWN".
Any incidence will be quarantined and that will make it "IMPOSSIBLE" for the virus to spread.
Now "RELAX"!
You forgot the /sarc tag.
FEMA Blue - it's the new black.
what do they know that we don't know...
Nothing! The Government likes to waste money to stimulate the companies of there close friends / family. If little 'Jonny Goldman' was selling polished turds, the Government would find a reason to buy 160,00 units.
The suits are useless without decon...
http://www.grainger.com/category/decontamination-kits/emergency-prepared...
why we still have direct flights to ebola infected regions of africa is beyond me unless they want it here.
Perhaps we could convince Congress to hold an emergency meeting with one of the Ebola victims.
Bet you every member in congress, white house, and goldman sachs, including Johnny Corzine has one of those suits hanging in their closets
Even if this thing gets under control, they dont really know its natural reservoir, could be animal or insect. What if the virus establishes itself in a new reservoir in the North American Ecosystem. Then get ready for epidemics every once in a while.
By the way if you have a fully loaded yacht with a few months of supply you dont need a suit lol. Guess those Yacht Clubs and yacht sales in Sag Harbor must be doing real good.
Considering that these suits are good for ONE encounter with an infected patient, are 160k really enough for all the medical staff that may be needed? I mean, each doctor and each nurse may go through a dozen of these in a day.
Hmm.. can those suits stop a billion or so .40 S&W hollow points?
..they will be fighting themselves sooner or later.
If some criminals are realy doing this spread with illicit purpose they should know about macrophages in humans and that they will be arrested.
But some say ebola is really difficult to spread. So why the space suits? Why all the trained medical staff getting sick? Why a cordoned off ambulance?
I'd hate to be one of the "cleaning crew" that unknowingly got sent it to pick up the peanut bag wrappers and clean out the shitters on Patient Dallas' flight.
When you've got big problems, create even bigger ones to distract everyone
http://www.infowars.com/canadian-health-agency-deletes-info-on-airborne-spread-of-ebola/
Keep those airliners pumping people in from West Africa - we need a headline.
Hello, hello, hello, is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me..
From Drudge…
EBOLA PATIENT HAD CONTACT WITH SCHOOL-AGE CHILDREN...
Told hospital on first visit was from LIBERIA -- then SENT HOME!
SECOND POSSIBLE CASE IN DALLAS...
At Least 12 Thought to Be Exposed...
Airlines scramble to track down hundreds who came in contact...
US Visas Held By 13,500 People In Three Ebola Countries...
WHO Warns of MERS Surge in Africa...
TOP DOC: More will be infected...
'Preppers' stock up on supplies...
CHILD DIES FROM MYSTERY VIRUS...
Responsible for 4 deaths?
Rhode Island Child Dies From Complications Of Enterovirus That Has Been Affecting Kids Nationwide
October 1, 2014 2:35 PM
STEVE WYNN: I'M 'MORE SCARED' ABOUT USA THAN CHINA...
'Stunned at immaturity of administration'...
'We elected man as president who had no experience at anything'...
NAME ONE CITY WITH AN AIRPORT THAT DOESNT ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE WALKING AROUND SPREADING EBOLA...
Martial law can solve this and the currency crisis that is coming.
I'm confident of my position up here in the north...
Far Far away from the corrupt and population overgrown states of the south...
Enjoy the palm trees!!! Too bad they don't cure ebola!
Do they make special monkey suits for the presidential family?
Good Citizens of Metropolis! Why panic? Are you planning on touching blood? How about eating feces? Have you cleaned the muck off a dead corpse lately? If you answered no to these questions, then you don't have Ebola.
If only someone had told all the doctors who caught it to stop eating feces, we could've avoided this whole problem.
Take Obama's cock out of your mouth
NAME ONE CITY WITH AN AIRPORT THAT DOESNT ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE WALKING AROUND SPREADING EBOLA...
NAME ONE CITY WITH AN AIRPORT THAT DOESNT ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE WALKING AROUND SPREADING EBOLA...
These are not one-time use suits, unless there is no decontamination procedure for ebola. Just sayin. From the User Manual...
"Maintenance and Repairs
Upon receipt, the Level A suit should be tested to insure that no damage has occured during shipment. After that, the Level A suit should be tested after every use and at least annually, whether it is used or not. If the Level A suit fails the test, see “Testing” and “Returns” for more information. In addition to testing, the Level A suit must be inspected after every use and at least annually. A Level A Inspection Checklist has been provided at the back of this manual to assist in the inspection."
on long guy land?
Apparently you can contract from shaking hands...say gives me an idea...why not have next election cycle against the backdrop of rampant ebola. Gives som consequence to politicians need for pressing flesh and shaking hands and meeting John Q Public - in public. Hail fellow - well met...cough...cough
latest scoop.. a three foot distance with no physical connection is "direct contact".
I wonder what circulating air in a big, pressurized aluminum tube at FL 330 is considered.
The government would rather see ebola take a firm hold on the American populace than risk being seen as "overreacting", or god forbid, racist. If anyone suggested we do the sensible thing (promote, and enforce, containment), that would mean that some poor souls from infected countries would have to delay, 'GASP' that visit to see dear uncle here in the U.S.
Working in a hospital setting, I know full well that we have been unable to eradicate a variety of infectious agents (HIV, MRSA, C. Diff., etc.) that continue to make people sick, and in many cases, kill them. The fact that they are confident that our health care system could handle ebola should scare the shit out of you. Resources are frequently strained, even in the absence of such a virulent organism.
IF ebola cases are seen here in significant numbers, I have no doubt the history of it will be altered. They will say, "no one could have known it would happen this way", etc. Unreal.
It is not just "resources". IN the West we have access to pretty good PPE at Ward level, but this is let down frequently and consistently by POOR TECHNIQUE. There is a tendency to "follow procedures" without understanding, so we see pointless repetitive activities, yet yawning "performance gaps" where contamination can, and WILL occur. "Great Care" in putting ON, CLEAN PPE, but lack of care when takiing CONTAMINATED PPE OFF.
I have seen MANY colleagues de-gown after touching Norovirus Patients (particularly transmissable, that one!), clearly touch the outside of gowns, even gloves, with their hands, then head off to coffee without washing their hands.
And we wonder why "The War on MRSA / C.diff., / VRE" is being lost??
If Ebola becomes established in Australia to any extent, I'm off on a VERY long Annual Leave!! The survivors will NEED healthcare resources too, and I'm going to be there to provide them.
It is dead simple. Ebola-infected peon goes to work in fast food restaurant serving ice with soda. Ebola gets on ice, which goes into soda, which get consumed by unsuspecting morons, who contract the virus.
Pre-Ebola, US restaurant ice has been demonstrated to be frequently contaminated with fecal bacteria.
Why focus on the healthcare workers when far more infections will occur in far more mundane, less sanitary settings?
You people don't understand how fragile a virus is. Very few of them can survive outside of the host body for very long and the more removed those conditions are from the host, the faster they become inert.
Or, ebola-infected peon vomits all over the place outside his apartment in Dallas and people walking by breathe in the droplets...
This nation cannot be conditioned to think that locking up large numbers of Negros is even possible, let alone in our best interests.
Umm, I thought the jails were full of black fellas. Wonder how I got that one wrong?
@ paveway---Its UN blue---
FEMA blue, UN blue, Crips blue... same results.
FEMA blue is actually Homeland Security Stazi blue (same opressive, satanic cult) Pantone 2955.
UN blue is Pantone 279.
Last night I order under 10 disposable suits and this morning I get a call questioning me what they are for. I'm west coast.
This has homeland security written all over it.
Just be honest with them, Rubbish.
Stazi: "What are you planning on using the suits for?"
You: "Oh, nothing biological or disease related. I'm not a terrorist. The guys in my covert Sarin lab have been foaming at the mouth a lot lately and convulsing, so we figured we'ld better suit-up during our next cook"
Stazi: "...What? Really?"
You: "Of course, you dumbshits! Didn't you see it on my web site? We crowdsourced funding and plan on calling our product 'Freedom Sarin.' You're not against freedom, are you?"
lulz. Awesome.
Tell them you're cleaning up section-8 housing after eviction day.
Nah, just kidding. Tell them to fuck off and it's none of their damn business.
Government contracts take a LONG time to travel through the intestinal and byzantine system of bureaucracy. A LONG FUCKING TIME. When were the bids put out? When was this process initiated???
I bet it was MONTHS before the ebola outbreak started in W. Africa.
Murdering cocksuckers. THERE IS A JUDGEMENT YOU FUCKERS!!!!
Are those Hazmat suits bulletproof?
Shh dude, you're screwing up my mellow with all those negative waves... I come to ZH for my daily dose of doom-porn...
Karl Denninger, is that you?
General translation of .gov acronmyms: Bendski overski and kisski yourski buttski goodbyeski. That is, unless you actually do live in Russia. In that case you are probably okay.
"Oh hey, DUCK it's a nuke!"
We're all screwed.
THAT JUST KILLED HALLOWEEN!!!
"STAY AWAY FROM MY DOOR"
sorry, but i cant chance it.....
You just gave me an idea for a seriously kick-ass Halloween costume...
lol...so sick I just had to laugh. ;-)
Even if the kids look like they came from Stockholm (young Thor), rather than Lagos?
Long: Flamethrowers
"Fill four or more five gallon cans with gas... mix in some Styrofoam til you get the right thickness..."
My USMC brothers used to put a Claymore mine underneath the afore-mentioned cocktail. When bad guy trys to enter a secure sector blow the claymore and watch....
It smells like Victory!
I wont need a Hazmat suit b/c Mr Kimber and Mr Hornaday guarantee no wont let Zombie will come near enough for me to need one.
I cant wait for the day that Obama holds a press conference wearing that Hazmat suit and telling us that we shouldnt worry about anything and that everything is under control because they have a plan in mind.
Boris is preference of press conference of pock lace face of Barry behind oxygen tent with blood from ear and flesh rot revealing inner sinusoidal tissue. Ooops.
http://www.recapo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/lick-flag-.png
Obama in a haz-mat suit, boarding chopper for last time, WH in background draped with Mission Accomplished banner.
Awesome comment.
<< Obama in a chartreuse haz-mat suit .... >>
You mean this?
Great post. Laughed so hard I pissed myself.
Yeah, but do they have BULLET-PROOF HazMat suits? The dude with one of those is going to emerge victorious when it's all done...
Make sure you skip the Halloween candy this year friends.
Has CDC ordered it's cache of sub-machine guns yet?
No, but the flamethrowers were.
Note that 1 Oz. of "Precious" will buy you this suit -- to protect Your Precious Ass(ests). Eminently sensible tradeoff, sensible Hedge (insurance policy).
In 2012 libertarians had their Gun Panic and drove up G+A prices sky high. Expect the same for Hazmat suits this year. Amazing what they'll do to force Libertarians to put their Cash in circulation.
On September 9th (9/11)
*COUGH 9/9
My bad Pickle...ur right (9/9)...too much multitaskin on the go.
Driving is hard enough while masturbating. Add in comments to ZH and you've got a messy situation.
And vice versa.
uh, i think september 9th is actually 9/9.
good stuff, Truth. I have a hard time believing that a Liberian with flu-like symptoms can walk into an ER in a major city, even in the South, and be sent home - not with this news coverage.
There is no chance, none, that he did not infect someone else in the interim.
Not to pile on "illegals" but once this gets into the illegal immigrant community, the ability to track it will be virtually gone.
I hope I'm wrong and this is all overblown, but I don't think so...
without going into the merits of Ebola being a danger or not, megalomaniac shopping of any kind is really, really nothing new
I remember when - before the internet, somewhere in the ballpark of the 80's - there was a tiny scandal about the US Army stockpiling camo covers for military helmets. some bright guy calculated that the stockpile would be sufficient for the next 5'000 years
years later, the problem was solved. because the US Army introduced the "Fritz" kevlar helmet. which is better, but needs a different size of camo covers
compare this with other stockpile stories, and with that where Congress tells generals that they are getting more tanks, and shut-up-and-soldier-on
These suits are used once.
So, 160,000 disposable suits spread across 1 year only provides an approximate of 438 used per day.
This is approximately 8 suits per location per day if seen through the hypothetical lens of use in 50 states in a year period.
Hook Line and Fear Mongering
These are NOT the disposable type.
Look at the fucking price tag. Look up the specs.
Edit:
Never mind. I'll do it for you. Note that this is not in Lakelands disposable line of PPE.
Meet...the interceptor!
http://www.lakeland.com/our-products/chemical-protective-clothing/interc...
This specific type is considered 'reusable'. They are thrown away all the time after one use as they become nasty sweat houses. Every IH company that uses them passes the cost off and tosses them in the dumpster.
Next, they're NOT even rated for biological, only chemical. You know, benzene, xylene, tuolene, etc and particulates.
Hook Line and EbolaCola
The government prefers all U.S. citizens buy and use this specific version:
Interceptor® NFPA 1991 Level A - rear entryThe logic for encouraging use of that particular model is left to the unfortunate citizens.
Ohhhh... LIBERIAN. I haven't gone to the library in months.
They probably didn't want to admit him for lack of insurance. Only critically ill people get treated when you don't have insurance or can't pay ahead of time.
"Dallas Ebola Victim Likely Acquired His Infection During Flight"
So he was on the flight, swapping spit with the guy who already had ebola? It's not airborne, after all...
The 2 American Doctors infected were practicing all proper standards of care (AMA standards regarding dealing with communicable viruses such as Ebola) & wearing, at minimum, N100 level respirators (masks) while in proximity with Ebola patients when they were infected.
So the camps are death traps, like FEMA camps will be. Only protection is RUN for the hills and stay the heck away from everyone till it's over. Over? Not likely....
Bitchez...I quit picking up pennies
It's completely obvious by now the Criminal UNITED STATES, CORP. / Agenices have Absoluetly no business in containment of the Virus. The Criminals however, have been training for Marshall Law & forced quarantine of individuals given the right emergency.
Control is the Goal combined with an economic collapse would be icing on the cake.
Oligarch masters, meet the turbocharged Carlton 2018HD.
Nice Pave, very nice.
For some, woodchippers may bring back memories of Fargo. For me, it will always be this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ib7rDds5jk
MARTIAL law, dammit!
What were they doing when they weren't in protective gear? I'll bet they came into contact with someone unknowingly incubating Ebola.
Is that airplane still flying? Was it decontaminated?
Listen,
Relax with this nonsense! Liberians are not USSA cows with saliva "DRIPPING" from the mouth!
Brindle - Aircraft ultimately flew on to Brussels prior to "Patient Dallas" being diagnosed.
Unsure as to status since.
… right … mine were rhetorical questions … the plane is still flying … once everyone knew ebola was onboard, it was not taken out of service for decontamination
How many others were infected?
Do you write jokes for a living? If not, SNL could use some new writers.
Follow the money or the loss thereof. That plane is flying forevah!
Median time to symptoms = 12.7 days, not 5.5
Ah, not sure. Average or median?
Median is better/more useful data point but if 12.7 days is median, that's even worse, as it gives vector an additional 7 days to shed virus all over before realizing that they are sick.
Mean=5.5 , median= 12.7
re: flights
some people say that patient zero of AIDS was a gay Canadian flight attendant in the late 1980s named Gaetan Dugan
Late 1970's or early 1980's.
Just to put things into some sort of perspective...the Spanish flu killed more people than those who had dies in WWI....the Spanish flu did not have the benefit of jet aircraft to serve as its vector.
I think alot more people will show up infected, this can't be stopped because of the long time before you show symptoms.
80 people were in contact with Dallas Ebola patient – NBC cites health officials http://rt.com/usa/192568-texas-ebola-patient-contact/
Blotto- And when they zoom out you see it's not Will Smith hitting golf balls off the deck of the aircraft carrier, it's Obama.
Revision to #3 based on updated info, whereas:
3) Close contact sufficient to transmit Ebola Virus is a 3 foot diameter, and chances of transmission with that proximity or closer increase statistically with time. Flight on commercial airliner from Africa to U.S. Is close to 20 hours without any stop-overs.
***Regarding 3) Flight from Liberia to Dallas had 3 layovers - so that "close to 20 hours" turns into at least 35 hours+, with additional time/proximity at additional major airway hubs.***
Nice analysis. If the CDC did the same, which they have the capabilities to do, then they are either negligent or hiding their actions.
sschu
I'll start hiding when our Rat politicians suddenly scurry outside of the USSA , to attend conferences, of course.
And may they never return.
#contained #horseshit
Hope Camps, Blotto. I'm sure they will be called Hope Camps.
Forward!!
I could be wrong about this but I think this is being overblown. The places where this is spreading are unsanitary crapholes that in some cases believe in witchcraft over medicine. Not to mention they had inadequite healthcare systems to begin with. I'm not saying that the satanic oligarchs might not try something like this, but I don't think this one is it. We've got plenty of other things to worry about.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/01/health/ebola-outbreak-in-nigeria-appears-to-be-over.html?_r=0
SMG mentions, "places where this is spreading are unsanitary crapholes that in some cases believe in witchcraft over medicine. Not to mention they had inadequite healthcare systems to begin with."
Hmmmm, so Miami, Detroit, New Orleans, Cleveland, Northern NJ, Los Angeles, Most of NYC, Houston, St Louis, Memphis,...
Yeah SMG, I agree with you.
Even the worst slums in those places are paradise compared to most of say Monrovia, Liberia. However I admit I could be wrong, I hope I'm not.
I watched that vid posted before about going to West Point in Liberia and I could swear it was an 80's apocalypse movie. It was surreal, almost a different planet.
There are levels to squalor, and almost everywhere in the US is a paradise compared to the really bad places.
Liberia is a perfect breeding ground for microbes, as there is shit everywhere, the temp is elevated year round, and there are humans packed in close who shit in the street, and eat whatever they get their hands on.
Ebola is one scary ass disease, but as a threat to the Gen Pop in the USA, it is just not there.
It might evolve, but you cannot use models that work in Africa anywhere in the US.
pods
Ebola might get a little help from it's friends in the CDC.
Ebola has been genetically modified, there is little doubt about that. Is this a bio-engineered strain? Impossible to say.
Germany, USA, Russia, and China have all done 'research' on hemorrhagic fevers. The results of all that research, IMO, HIV/AIDS, Marburg and Ebola.
Ebola has been genetically modified?
I would say it is more difficult to actually breed stocks of it WITHOUT having it modify.
pods
HIV is the result of 'research' on hemorrhagic fevers?
Ebola and AIDS share a transmission mechanism. So one could have been used to engineer the other, or they share a predecessor.
"Dr. Paul Bieniasz of the Aaron Diamond AIDS Research Center at New York's Rockefeller University, said they hoped their finding might lead to the discovery of new drugs to help treat HIV and Ebola infections.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1931312807001916
If you like jargon.
Thanks. I agree with the statement that Ebola has been genetically modified but that does not imply it was done in a lab or deliberately. From what I understand, these things are very sloppy at reproduction producing vast numbers of mutations, almost all of which are not viable. But then some are. So it's a matter of time before some new nasty, communicable, variant shows up.
Look, the CDC is out for one thing as an agency, to grow in terms of power and influence.
Individual scientists are going to be going about their business and usually are interested in the actual science (virology).
There is no special department called The Georgia Guidestone department that specializes in covertly spreading deadly disease to kill us off while ensuring the selected chosen ones have the proper vaccine.
The head guy is an ass, they always are. Politician who has to reassure while maintaining his time in the limelight.
You think he would have a job tomorrow if he was to say they could have infected 200 people and they might be everywhere?
The chaos would kill more than this disease would.
I don't care how many nutters junk me, you are not going to see the same disease model here in the US that you see in shitholes around the world where people literally shit in the streets.
Dirt floor, mud cookies, cholera is common and a firm stool is not, absolute hellholes.
There is a reason these diseases spread so well there.
pods
It might be worse. How? UV for starters. How much of the day do you spend outside where the UV light kills virus. Sure people in those places may be dirty and stinky and have other diseases, but the conditions they live may not promote the growth and spread of a virus as well as your own home does.
Also, ebola doesn't breed in shit. It breeds in people, and when you have people puking their guts out in public streets, like this guy in Dallas, or trapped on planes with hundreds of other people, or bleeding out their orifices, it's going to spread.
Pods, people want the world to end so they are hoping ebola is the ignition source. I agree with you about the US being the wrong petri dish. This not the disease that will take out America. Obesity and diabetes have Ebola beat hands down with all the shit both of them can cause. Add Monsanto to the mix with all the GMO's and it makes ebola look like a mosquito bite.
is it known if the carrier was an oilworker or a member of the military or simply a duel citizen? if an oilworker than i think it's probable china also has a case or two.
Great point. Type II diabetes kills ~250,000 people in the US each year, and it's spreading as fast as a virius and is a slow and painful death if not managed. And if you were the type to manage your health chances are you wouldn't have it in the first place.
They don't need a virius, just moar Dorito's and Mtn. Dew!
Exactly. We have major epidemic's already in the USA. People just became so use hearing about it, where they are numb to the sounds of the diseases that all of us have heard over and over again. But take Ebola and it sounds horrible because it is new to the population. Now I am not saying ebola is some common cold as it is a very horrible disease, but come on folks. We already have major epidemics all around us. Everybody is just use to it by now where it has no effect for fear. Flu will kill more people this year, next year,year after,etc,etc than ebola. I will bet the farm on that statement.
Diabetes is not contagious.
Mosquito bite? Sometimes it's not about how many it actually kills but about how many it helps sequester in FEMA camps under martial law, how many rights it helps eviscerate, how many travelers it prevents from leaving the borders of the USSA.
I recall reading something about bio-warfare research
conducted by old South Africa & Israel
targeting specific ethnic types of people.
If you really want to know what's going on, listen to the government, and then remember this: The government lies. Always. Even when it's in its best interest to tell the truth.
Currently, the government is telling you not to worry; everything is under control. Therefore....
Ebola is one scary ass disease, but as a threat to the Gen Pop in the USA, it is just not there.
You're wrong ! Liberia might be a shithole, but precisely because of that situation travelling posibilities for most of its population are rather limited. US by comparison is a traveller's paradise (despite TSA...). Such a disease would spread much FASTER over here, than over there. Containment is much easier in places like Monrovia, and practic impossible in continental US. Remember the old "Outbreak" movie ? The whole catch of that movie is that the disease blew into a small town which, in an extreme situation, could be cordoned off and rased from the face of the Earth. You get the same thing in a big city (Dallas ??) and it could very easily be game over !
Agreed. The Nigerians say they've got it under control. Now I'm not one to put any credibility into authority, let alone Nigerian authority but this seems to be the case and confrmed by CDC as well.
They had one patient zero and while he died within days after being first admitted, everyone else of the 284 people they identified who potentially came into contact with the one guy or with someone who did were monitored and not one developed symptoms.
Virtually all air travel between West African countries has been suspended for some time now. Arik Air is one of the main carriers there.
Not even a year ago the city by the bay cleaned out a homeless encampment where buckets of dead rats sat next to piles of shit and used needles strewn everywhere. An individual interviewed asked why they just can't let them shoot meth in peace.
Another incident an escalator servicing the underground bart was shut down due to an over whelming amout of feces clogging its mechanics.
A quick note of interest: Liberia was never colonized. So this is one mess you can't blame on evil YT.
4 school children exposed to Dallas Ebola victim.
They each go to a different school, too, as luck would have it. Get out your calculator...you'll need a big one soon.
But, by all means, continue telling us how this is no big deal and only effects shithole armpit countries.
This is a video of a slum called West Point In Monrovia, Liberia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53w90hHIuV8
African town planning has been very innovative at times. http://irishsavant.blogspot.ie/2008/08/african-town-planning-way-forward...
scratches ass at 1:09