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American Ebola News Wrap: Up To 100 Potential Cases In Texas, 1 In Hawaii
UPDATE: TEXAS HEALTH OFFICIALS INCREASE NUMBER OF POSSIBLE CONTACTS OF EBOLA VICTIM TO 100
Despite promises by all asunder that any Ebola epidemic in America will be "contained" the dreadful news this morning appears to confirm this is not the case. From one patient, Eric Duncan, just 2 days ago, to 4 schools and 18 people yesterday (according to Texas Governor Rick Perry) to today where NBC News has confirmed with the Dallas county health and human services that 80 people came into contact with the Dallas Ebola patient or his family (including 12-18 direct). The ambulance workers are also under close watch after Duncan vomited on the ground outside an apartment complex as he was bundled into an ambulance. In addition, CBS is reporting one possible Ebola patient in isolation in Hawaii. Contained? Perhaps it is time to rethink the ethics of disease control once again.
After being sent home by a Dallas hospital,
The Dallas patient had initially sought treatment at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital late last Thursday and was sent home with antibiotics rather than being observed further, even though he told a nurse he had recently returned from West Africa. By Sunday, he needed an ambulance to return to the same hospital, where he was admitted.
A nurse asked about the travel as part of a triage checklist and was told about it. “Regretfully, that information was not fully communicated throughout the full teams. As a result, the full import of that information wasn’t factored into the full decision making,” Texas hospital official Mark Lester said.
Two days after he was sent home from a Dallas hospital, the man who is the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the United States was seen vomiting on the ground outside an apartment complex as he was bundled into an ambulance.
"His whole family was screaming. He got outside and he was throwing up all over the place," resident Mesud Osmanovic, 21, said on Wednesday, describing the chaotic scene before the man was admitted to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital on Sunday where he is in serious condition.
Duncan's family took action...
That was the day "I called CDC to get some actions taken, because I was concerned for his life and he wasn't getting the appropriate care," Duncan's nephew, Josephus Weeks, told NBC News on Wednesday night. "I feared other people might also get infected if he wasn't taken care of, and so I called them to ask them why is it a patient that might be suspected of this disease was not getting appropriate care?"
Weeks added that he hoped "nobody else got infected because of a mistake that was made."
NBC has confirmed with the Dallas county health and human services that 80 people came into contact with the Dallas Ebola patient or his family.
Director Zachary Thompson said these 80 people were not in close contact, but they did have some kind of contact with or exposure to the patient.
Separately, Texas health officials have ordered four family members who had contact with the Dallas Ebola patient to stay home and not have visitors to prevent the potential spread of disease.
The order, hand delivered to Thomas Eric Duncan's relatives Wednesday night by Texas Department of Health Services officials, legally requires the family to comply until at least Oct. 19, when the incubation period has passed and the family is no longer at risk of having the disease.
And then there is this....
Doctors are keeping one possible Ebola patient in isolation in Hawaii, but symptoms could reflect many illnesses.
— CBS This Morning (@CBSThisMorning) October 2, 2014
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As we noted previously, it is perhaps time to discuss the ethics of disease control a little more broadly before the totalitarian weight of government comes to bear.
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If they called the CDC, then why didn't the CDC communicate with local EMR so they could send the meat truck out with knowledge that they may be picking up an ebola patient? Why didn't the CDC coordinate pick-up? WTF, over?
That's just the story line because the Ebola spreader must also be a "Hero" so we can't be pissed off at him.
Yes, you are right. His vector to infection seems clear. He was a threat to those on the plane thought. The CDC is putting out the idea that a patient with Ebola can NOT infect others until they themsleves show full blown infection symptoms. I do not know if I believe this, but it might explain the relatively slow movement of the virus, taking months to spread in crowded flighty African hell holes we call nations and cities. Which they are not. They are hell holes, go visit one.
I really don't understand this theory of a different patient zero. Mr Duncan, our current patient zero, physically touched a woman who has died of ebola just days before flying to the United State via Belgium. It makes sense that he is indeed patient zero
These guys were promised a leading role in this season's The Walking Dead.
I guess they got the part.
Look, this is serious shit but there's no reason to think Duncan caught ebola from someone else on the plane. For God's sake, he was carrying and sharing taxi rides with a near-death ebola patient a couple days before he left Monrovia for the US.
"Have you traveled to West Africa recently?"
"Have you traveled to West Texas recently?"
"Have you traveled to Hawaii recently?"
Which will eventually devolve into:
"Have you traveled anywhere recently?"
Getting ready to spend a year or two at home. Wonder how long the burn out rate will be? Any good guesses out there?
There were recurrent outbreaks of the plague in London for 250 years until the Great Fire.
Every six -ten years.We already know wild animals are a resevoir in Africa,could
happen here.
I believe that is because plague can go dormant. I don't think they have ever done enough research on Ebola to determine what animal(s) harbor the virus during the off-season so to speak.
Winston. According to science, the African Fruit Bat is the main source of Ebola. It is the host in which Ebola can live and not make the animal sick. Thus Africa will always be subject to Ebola infection. So what we see now is after years of outbreaks, we now see it jump the borders via plane travel. Handle an Ebola woman on Tuesday, hop a flight to Texas on Thursday, what could go wrong?
Yeap. I posted a while ago. First month you'll avoid anyone that has been to Africa recently. Second month you'll avoid anyone that has been near anyone that has been to Africa. Third month you'll avoid anyone. Why did they think there was no risk of this getting to the US? It is a contagious friggin' virus.
Kevin Reeve did a short article on social distancing a couple months ago, worth a look.
The virus loves crowds and warm/hot climates.
Long rural living. Especially in cold climates.
Hedge and plan accordingly.
I'm sitting here by my pool, in the shade, smoking a cigar, watching my tobacco grow in OCTOBER. Warm climates please.
This is going exactly as the cartel planned it. On other message boards people are crying out for quarantine. Quarantine = Martial Law!!!! Make them beg for their enslavement....
YOU
ARE
ALL
GOING
TO
DIE!!!!!
sometime in the future...
On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
On a very short timeline the survival rate for you drops to zero
"I gotta bad feelin' about this one Bob....I mean I gotta bad feelin'"
'We all gotta die sometime Red"
Ah shit, Super Lifer.
I remember this film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj9SUJdpJS4
12 Monkeys, the virus was released at the Airport.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gaAdhiF77g
I think we should put Bernanke, Greenspan and Yellen under isolation, they seem to show excessive symptoms of QEbola.
Also, isnt Rick Perry, Texas, the one who wanted to mandate HPV vaccines to young girls?
Can you say "exponential"?
As a practicing MD for almost thirty YEARs with a Masters in Public Health from UCLA, I can emphatically state that the CDC IS LYING.
America is being SCREWED.
"Wash your hands & wait for the vaccine?!?!"
With such an INCREDIBLY infantile strategy, all we need to do is get Africa to USE SOAP?!?!?
Are there ADULTs ANYWHERE to be found in this administration?!?!
www.Locutions.org
"Underground bunkers?" That's so 1940s. I believe the modern parlance is "secure, undisclosed location".
Moms basement?
Naw, it's a hip new joint called "Cheney's".
CDC says to avoid raw bat meat. darn. no more bat-burgers.
What complete bullshit.
Just like numerous other 'pandemic threats' of the past - but today's Americans have been raised to have short attention spans ( which they turned into another 'dis-ease' called ADHD). History ? What's that ?
A nation filled with mindless sheep who seem to enjoyed being frightened and manipulated -
'Land of the Free, Home of the Brave' ?
Maybe a couple hundred years ago, but not today.
http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/10/01/tracking-ebola-contacts-cal...
I spoke with a 'liberal' this weekend and he explained to me why having independent operating AI controlled armed drones flying over head in America "is a good idea to protect us from Al Qaeda". Ironically, he also ranted against "the far right". Next he'd probably tell me they should bomb Syria back to the Stone Age. It was really quite disgusting.
It seems today that Americans will go along with anything to 'feel safe' and preserve their cherished 'right' vs 'left' b.s. self image today.
Land of the Free, Home of the Brave ?
And the TSA patdowns spread the ebola to every single person in the airport.
Great!
I can't wait for Krugman to get Ebola too then!
good one.. I love broken windows..
and, thank God we have Obamacare, our own doctors, our own health care plans and premiums reduced by $2500.00 to save us from the plague introduced by the state.
For Obama it's all about being PC and the November elections.
Keeping it quiet until afterwards.
I thought Krugman was a mutated strain of ebola.
If we are relying on .Gov to handle this epidemic and they are as dis functional as I suspect we are so fucked we will never see "just fucked" in our lifetime. Current ineffectiveness of ALL government is worse than most sheep suspect as anyone who has had to deal with .gov can attest. The CDC is no exception. It's so bad that government the is disease that has contaminated any private sector system that it comes in contact with.
And your suggestion would be? Haliburton? Apple? Fox News? Who should help with this potential catastrophe?
Help yourself.
I always wanted to visit Africa. Now I won't even have to leave home.
In that case, just invite them to your gated white community. Or not.
This HAS to be the greatest miss...ever...by and administration or an US President. Katrina and the total debacle just doesn´t even come close. In light of this Bush , Cheney and Rummy seems to be in competetion with the Swiss government in analysis and execution of policies to protect their people.
If you don´t get rid of Obama and the Dems now you will never...
This "event" has the potential to spin out of control and we may be looking at millions of casualties no matter what the FDA says.
Laura Ingraham under fire over Obama-Ebola rant:
http://tinyurl.com/nbocvrq
Yeah right. Thos guys don´t seem to be the brightest bulbs...let´s see them try to defend this when you start ratcheting up 3-5 million dead.Not at all impossible given what we know about the virus.
The U.S. is a funny place - deep down it´s steered by emotions more than anything else and I believe this will unleash frightening public feelings. Once the sleeping giant has awakened - don´t try to stand in it´s way.
Screw Laura.
IMPEACH President OBOLA.
NEWSFLASH- we have contained a specific strain of the virus- the Ethiopian Shim Sham.
Suspected Ebola case in Hawaii
http://khon2.com/2014/10/01/patient-in-isolation-in-honolulu-hospital-of...
U.N. now worried Ebola going airborne
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2778022/UN-Ebola-chief-raises-ni...
Now we know where in Texas Patient X was at....with his family....who are now under mandatory quaranteen
The Ivy Apartments.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2778022/UN-Ebola-chief-raises-ni...
What are people going to use in transactions if cash gives you Ebola?
Bitcoin users not affected.
A nitric acid handwash would take care of it.
Buffet on CNBS touting market......must be in trouble ..........
They might as well put Wilfred Brimley ("oatmeal will save us") up there at this point.
You know what happens when your market gets too high?
Di-a-beetus.
pods
Chris Rock had the answer to Ebola.
Robitussin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsY2-yi5W74
Or just carry a few ounces of sterilizing plutonium with you
Have you read the research into how many bacteria and viruses are found on the average keyboard or cell phone - they make bathrooms look hygienic.
Disinfecting sprays within reach of my keyboard.
You mean I can get it by accepting a Facebook friends request from someone from Liberia?
No, but your cell phone is probably cleaner AFTER you drop it in the chlorinated toilet bowl...
(sickening thought of the day)
Silver kills germs
I've always wanted to be backup for the Blue Men.
...but not viral ones.
Actually it works against virus as well.
Here are a few research papers on the subject.
Instead of cash? Probably the imbedded chip in your hand that you'll receive immediately upon being vaccinated for said ebola!
Excess population...
What happens when hospital staff refuses to report to work?
That's should come next.
More hype and Bullshit
All you dipshits who downvoted are allot dumber than i thought was on this site, why dont you dumbasses do more research instead of one news source you ALL might learn something
You really like down votes, don't you?
You got down voted because you present no argument as to why people here are dumbasses. Just avoiding presenting any evidence or reasoned argument as to why this story of Ebola is overblown. WHy not make a case? Anyone can call people dumbasses.
This is quite possible. "Quarantine the hospital" is what must come next.
Don't forget possible Martial law just like the movie Outbreak
When are you applying for a job at a Dallas area Hospital?
Wondering why they haven't quarantined/burnt down the apartment block he was in and reportedly puked outside of?
BBC running a pic of a "private security guard" just cruising by it, but no evidence of any "Don't go in there!" tape.
That was probably before the ebola infected guy actually got there.
Seriously, would you be hauling ass down there to be snappin selfies?
The girls working in the office are probably screaming "I didn't sign up for this shit!"
3000 US soldiers didn't seem to make much of a fuss.
Perfect time to call in the billions in $$$ we've given israel. Let's make it the global quartine facility for the ebola breakout.
Pretty soon they will have to have an ENN (Ebola News Network). I don't have TV, but I can imagine switching from channel to channel and finding nothing but the latest ebola news.
Voted up, I don't have TV either
I have one, but it doesn't work.
If yours doesn't work, have you considered changing religions? I understand Zoroastrionism is very nice.
TV, not religion, is the real opioid of the masses.
No kidding. I find myself not being able to connect with much of anyone in my neighborhood anymore, as they talk about this TV show and that and this sporting event. It's lonely when not being famouse for being opiated.
I have a TV. And I watch it 20 hours a day. Mostly reality TV reruns. Helps keep me grounded...
grounded in the reality that we are not long for this planet. Things have become WAY too fucked up.
Same. I'll just have to wait until it comes out on Netflix.
CNBC was All Ebola all day yesterday.
Wow Conservatives are afraid of everything!!!
Black males get shot for playing loud music.
Immigrant 4 year olds crossing the border.
And now Ebola coming to infect them in America.
Hurry get your guns Conservatives and shoot the virus! LOL LOL LOL
Thanks for your keen insight Republi-Kunt.
And Libtards are afraid of the weather!
republi ken is a troll, but kenny me boy it is under your party that this disease was welcomed here, of course you blame ignorant red necks while you keep your eyes wide shut to what has been done by your fellow travelers..dead from the neck up clowns at cdc, tsa hls and the big enchilata at 1600 pa ave.
So Repub you going to pay for all of those 4 year olds out of your own pocket ?
Finally some good news:
Black males get shot for playing loud music.
So who believes what government says? Anyone? Did they lie? Of course they did. Thats what they do. Steal and murder also. It is the progressive way.
Grimaldus
My brother works at a clinic, and all the medical staff were rolling their eyes and mocking the CDC director's "advice" to stop ebola.
It's all true; when the CDC says we will stop it here, they are confident that no one who works in the CDC complex in Atlanta will become infected. Everyone else... not so much.
Dont ebola me bro.
"x Number of Ebola cases created and/or saved."
Hey man....don't ebogart that joint.
A medium-contagious disease with a decent latency period + a large country (with open borders) that millions travel in and out of every year = ______________________________.
Free Obamaphones?
iBOLA phones?
"You didn't kill that population yourself"
president Obola phones
"I'm from the government and I am here to help you."
Really? How about jumping off the Washington Monument...
Mm funny years back when Ebola was first discovered no one cared and the Media did their darnedest to pump up the story. Now all of a sudden Ebola is all the rage and were all gonna die. Typical Leftest, " Never let a good crises go to waste " Reminds me off all the Gun fear, when the facts of the matter is Cops kill more people with guns daily then the average gun owner.
Thing is, there isn't a crisis at Gov't levels yet. No air travel bans, nothing at all really. If there really was an emergency, they wouldn't let us know until everyone knows.
Average gun owner isn't killing as many people as all the cops do. Somebody get the average gun owner some more bullets.
.
Finally, someone gets it.
Thank God, Rumsfeld is not heading this crisis.
He woulda scared the shit out of the sheeple with his potential unknown and unknown unknowns.
Yeah because the dipshits in charge now have handled anything well?
We need to merge.
Leaving Liberia, you'll get questioned repeatedly about your actions, travels, and you'll get your temperature taken, repeatedly. A newscrew returning from Liberia told the customs officials that they were returning from Liberia and were informed that they'd 'gotten an email or something about that', and then they were sent on their way. "I went o Liberia and all I got was this lousy t-shirt and ebola". I am making that shirt, dibs!
Put me down for one (med.)
I just read on yahoo that the Liberian govt is prosecuting #1Dallas Case because he lied about exposure.
This is surreal.
And who is paying for this high priced medical care which he is receiving after exposing all of us to this crap? I have a hunch as to whom.
Don't worry, it's not contagious unless he is shitting or bleeding all over you. I know this becasue the government said so, and there are some really smart people in government.
The big question on everyone's minds, are public toilet seats safe?
They were never safe!
Yep. And what about the public toilets at AT&T stadium in Dallas? And what about the handrails? And the condiment containers? I wonder how many people who went to the game there last Sunday, Sep 28 are having those same thoughts right now. And I wonder how many of them are going to bug out when they start getting syptoms in the next 1-2 weeks, whether its Ebola or not. Panic is right around the corner.
Crowded stadiums, crowded theatres, crowded stores, crowded classrooms, crowded public bathrooms, crowded bars, crowded restaurants and fast food joints, should all start being avoided soon enough. It will be like Yogi Berra said, "no one goes there anymore, it's too crowded".
How bout Dem Cowboys hosting Houston this Sunday? Can't imagine many peeps will show up but then again there are tons of sheep out there.
chances are is that ebola is already in Houston. the cross-traffic between the two is significant. my buddy in Houston rides the bus into downtown. i told him to get a body condom, resevoir tip so he doesn't muss his hair.
We all know personal hygiene habits vary widely. You think 100% of fast-food/consession workers wash their hands thoroughly with soap after every dump? You think juices from loose bowel movements dont get/remain on these people's hands? Dude, the studies show it gets into the restaurant ice bin.
The fancier the restaurant, the more the food gets handled. A visit to the kitchen of almost any expensive dining room will reveal to you that nearly all the food preparers are Third World uneducated - and perhaps also underpaid and underconcerned.
"I no wash my hands? No MY pro'lem."
Mosquitos. That's my question. But some smart ass always pops up to say why a mosquito can't relay the virus. And I'm not convinced.
And if it come from the lips of a .gov employee, I will not put faith in the statement. It's a combination of manipulation by the smart ones , and incompetence by the rest.
Are we to believe, a HOSPITAL staff, in this enviroment, turned this guy loose without putting 2+2 together ? We are fucked.
But I'll bet a chicken dinner, that nurse or staffer could give you the complete lineup on the last episode of the Voice. Or give you a thorough bio on the last Bachlorette.
Proof positive that dumbing down has worked. 9.5 of 10 peeps are stupid.
Ahhhhh....you....ah.....talkin ta me?
In a Swiss paper today, another American (the second this year), has blindly followed his satnav (through a pedestrianised area) and down the main steps in front of the town hall.
Pics here if you want a good laugh :)
Someone was pulling a Jason Bourne.
pods
Mosquitoes? Ticks? Fleas? Bed-bugs? Houseflies? Burger flippers? Airborne?
So many potential vectors for an RNA virus that only does three things:
1- Spreads
2- Mutates
3- Kills
"An international research team has analyzed about a hundred Ebola virus genomes from 78 patients in Sierra Leone. The patients were diagnosed with Ebola in late May to mid June. The researchers found more than 300 genetic changes that make the 214 Ebola virus genomes distinct from the viral genomes tied to previous Ebola outbreaks."
Unstoppable: is Ebola mutating with unknown consequences before our eyes?
http://www.dw.de/unstoppable-is-ebola-mutating-with-unknown-consequences...
Under O-care, I can believe it. Hospital stall are not PAID TO THINK! Here is how it went down:
Eric Duncan: Yah, Mon, I from Libeeriyah. I don' feel so good!"
Hospital Staffer: Just sit down! We'll be with you in... a couple of hours.
E.D. Yah, mon, I jus' flew all de way heah from Libeeriyah, mon. I ahm a blick mon! rom Libeeriyah!! Ya mon, I'm vomiting mon!
Hospital staff, exasperated: Well, here! just take these pills, and go away! Can't you see we're busy?
Wait, he was from Jamaica, mon?
I did the best I could. Why don't you try writing dialect for a West African accent?
I bet that, just like me, if you try to imitate an Australian accent, you sound like a drunken Pole who immigrated to Ireland ten years ago.
I did the best I could.
For a primer on Liberian English, please to General Butt Naked, cannibal warlord :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZdFU_ulqzc
Thought I was having a heart attack a few months back. Broke down and went to the ER. 4 hours of waiting for test results, sitting ona gurny in the hallway because there....is no more room. When the lady (40-50's) was drawing my blood, I mentioned the show True Blood. She acknowledged that she was a fan and had watched the show since it first aired. I asked her what her favorite character was and she replied "I don't know names, I just watch."
Thinking of cornering the market: http://www.walmart.com/ip/COLEMAN-TOILET-SEAT-COVER/13848625
Can we catch it from coming in contact with govt bullshit?
That's exactly it..!!
They say you can't spread unless symptomatic. Well, where the FUCK do you get to define that. When did the original symptoms start that he may not have even noticed? What if he was mildly symptomatic on the plane...?
The .gov / CDC are 100% in panic-control mode right now. They fucking BETTER be tracking every single person on that plane. The arrogance of the administration in dictating to us how to perceive this is offensive to our intelligence.
Fuck you very much
How does tracking contacts do any good? Meanwhile, they are going about their daily business and any infected are incidentally spreading the disease. My mother was quaranteed in her home for scarlet fever as a child. Her father still went to work every day.
Perhaps it is time to rethink the ethics of disease control once again.
Why the hell would these f****rs know what 'ethics' are?
One interesting possibility that I haven't seen discussed before is to have the Ebola survivors encouraged or possibly even conscipted to provide care for the infected, since they should be immune and not require all the cumbersome and limiting protection apparati health care providers are currently required to wear. After all, what the sufferers need most is attention to hydration, which only requires monitoring a continuous IV.
They will be conscripted for their blood teaming with antibodies.
So, either way they'll get bled out.
Well at least they have stopped flights from west africa, oh wait they havent.
You could launch air strikes.
On Dallas?
Here we go. Expontential spreading.
Meanwhile we have the politically correct CDC and the Obama administration trying to minimize this disease.
Ebola doesn't care about Obama's November elections and political correctness. It's genetic purpose is to propagate.
How do you minimize Ebola? The course with which the disease runs is so transparent that it can only make anyone in charge of dealing with it be seen as knowingly incompetent.
The first on air case in the media should be interesting. "That was no mere fart I left in the chair."
Watch Death From the Nasdaq Marketplace! as people keel over as their Nasdaq Ebola plays soar!
On the subject of quarantine. It's kind of ironic that the Free Shit Army doesn't want to leave their home, until someone tells them they can't.
Don't forget the 3,000 troops, who will be home for Christmas.
(Coming to a mall near you.)