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Americans On Ebola: "I'm Getting So Nervous"

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Coast to coast, ordinary Americans are growing more fearful of what Ebola in America means. Despite reassurances from officials (President Obama on down) that it's contained, it appears it is not. By anecdote, as Reuters reports, in the Dallas community of Vickery Meadow (where Richard Duncan was staying), a cultural polyglot where about three dozen languages are spoken, the one word on everyone's lips is "Ebola." There is little indication a visitor to the community had been infected with a disease that has killed more than 3,000 people in West Africa, in the worst Ebola outbreak on record. "There's no notes on the doors. No one came to talk to us. I picked up my kids from school down the street and found out it was this close," one mother exclaimed, adding "right now, I'm not sure to take my daughter to school tomorrow... I'm getting so nervous."

 

As Reuters reports,

On Sunday, a group of blighted apartments in a section of the neighborhood favored by West African immigrants was shaken by screams as one family saw a recently arrived relative being carted away in an ambulance.

 

The man was the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States. He was last seen by neighbors in the parking lot vomiting on the street.

 

"I heard about Ebola on the news, but I didn't know it was right here," said Juan Pablo Escalante, 43, who is from Mexico.

 

There is little indication a visitor to the community had been infected with a disease that has killed more than 3,000 people in West Africa, in the worst Ebola outbreak on record.

 

"There's no notes on the doors. No one came to talk to us. I picked up my kids from school down the street and found out it was this close," Escalante said on Wednesday.

 

Dallas County said it would put "boots on the ground" to monitor those who may have been exposed. In Vickery Meadow, residents worried if that would be enough to prevent an outbreak at what has been dubbed "ground zero" for Ebola in the United States. Vickery Meadow is home to about 25,000 people and more than 30 languages spoken among immigrants who have come to Dallas because it has one of the better job markets in the United States and relatively inexpensive property prices.

 

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The community's schools have also been touched by Ebola, with five children coming into contact with the patient. The children went to the four different schools they attend after being exposed. They are now home and showing no symptoms, but parents are worried.

 

Dozens of comments from parents posted on the Dallas Independent School District's Facebook page said more information was needed, including the names of the potentially exposed children.

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Stay calm everyone - the government will be here soon with 'the solution'.

 

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Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:25 | 5282764 TeamDepends
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Fear is the mind killer.
Frank Herbert- Dune

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:27 | 5282767 Thomas
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To paraphrase Juncker, when it gets bad you have to lie.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:31 | 5282776 X.inf.capt
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<=WERE DOOMED! thanks CDC!

<=dont worry....be happy! CDC has it under control!!!

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:37 | 5282805 Rememberweimar
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Gov was so honest with us about Fukushima...

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:43 | 5282836 X.inf.capt
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hope everyone is thinking about bugging out...i think its time...

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:45 | 5282847 fonzannoon
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if everyone bugs out is that a bug in?

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:50 | 5282868 Samual Adams
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Interim Guidance for Emergency Medical Services (EMS) Systems and 9-1-1 Public Safety Answering Points (PSAPs) for Management of Patients with Known or Suspected Ebola Virus Disease in the United States

October 1, 2014

Who this is for: Managers of 9-1-1 Public Safety Answering Points (PSAPs), EMS Agencies, EMS systems, law enforcement agencies and fire service agencies as well as individual emergency medical services providers (including emergency medical technicians (EMTs), paramedics, and medical first responders, such as law enforcement and fire service personnel).

What this is for: Guidance for handling inquiries and responding to patients with suspected Ebola symptoms, and for keeping workers safe.

How to use: Managers should use this information to understand and explain to staff how to respond and stay safe. Individual providers can use this information to respond to suspected Ebola patients and to stay safe.

Key Points:

  • The likelihood of contracting Ebola is extremely low unless a person has direct unprotected contact with the blood or body fluids (like urine, saliva, feces, vomit, SWEAT, and semen) of a person who is sick with Ebola or direct handling of bats or nonhuman primates from areas with Ebola outbreaks.
  • When risk of Ebola is elevated in their community, it is important for PSAPs to question callers about:
    • Residence in, or travel to, a country where an Ebola outbreak is occurring;
    • Signs and symptoms of Ebola (such as fever, vomiting, diarrhea); and
    • Other risk factors, like having touched someone who is sick with Ebola.
  • PSAPS should tell EMS personnel this information before they get to the location so they can put on the correct personal protective equipment (PPE) (described below).
  • EMS staff should check for symptoms and risk factors for Ebola. Staff should notify the receiving healthcare facility in advance when they are bringing a patient with suspected Ebola, so that proper infection control precautions can be taken.

Says right there can be transmitted by SWEAT

 

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/hcp/interim-guidance-emergency-medical-services-systems-911-public-safety-answering-points-management-patients-known-suspected-united-states.html

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:57 | 5282906 Keyser
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Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:06 | 5282915 ZerOhead
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"Mr. Duncan remained in isolation at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital on Thursday, in stable but serious condition. Mr. Duncan probably became infected in Monrovia, the Liberian capital, on Sept 15, when he helped carry his landlord’s convulsing pregnant daughter to a clinic to be treated for Ebola."


Okay... so we have a guy who lives in Liberia who definitely knew that he may have ebola coincidentally ending up in America mere days later.

If he lives and they hear about this in Liberia you might want to buy some Liberian Airlines stock.....

 

Dr. Tom Frieden        ? @DrFriedenCDC

The impulse to isolate countries may make epidemic worse. Must use tried & true public health means to stop it.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:38 | 5283033 TruthInSunshine
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Once Ebola breaks out in any densely populated area containment is next to impossible, for both epidemiological, logistical & financial/medical resource reasons (it is estimated that assuming each and every vector can be tracked instantaneously & quarantined, each such containment requires a minimum of 25 full time medical experts per vector & incredibly expensive & medically intense monitoring - just 3 vectors so quarantined in even a modern medical facility would drain the facility of physicians, nurses and supplies).

Do the math and think about how 1,000 or even 200 vectors would strain the medical infrastructure in even the most prepared city. What
about 5,000 vectors?

So now there's this (after confident assurances by the CDC that they're absolutely confident containment will be successful:

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/219626-officials-clam-up-about-ebol...

Health officials clam up about effort to contain Ebola in Texas
 
By Elise Viebeck - 10/02/14 04:33 PM EDT

"Health officials are refusing to answer growing questions about their response to the first Ebola case in the United States."

Under intense questioning from reporters, officials with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the Texas health department and the City of Dallas repeatedly declined Thursday to provide details about the steps being taken to prevent an outbreak."

I especially like this gem:

"Frieden also said that, in theory, a sneeze or cough could spread the virus from someone experiencing Ebola symptoms. Officials had previously downplayed this possibility, focusing on direct contact with bodily fluids."

SURPRISE!

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:43 | 5283050 fonzannoon
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They know it's bad and if they lie they will look really bad really quick. The fact that they are not downplaying it means it's already airborn and they know it. Lying will buy them a few days at best and cause a bigger panic. 

Rick Perry's next press conference will have a fake Texas background and it will fall down behind him and he will slowly exit left.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:46 | 5283065 TruthInSunshine
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"Frieden also said that, in theory, a sneeze or cough could spread the virus from someone experiencing Ebola symptoms. Officials had previously downplayed this possibility, focusing on direct contact with bodily fluids."

SURPRISE!

= Airborne transmissible (which is why that physician protested CDC BULLSHIT & BLATANT LIES by wearing HAZMAT/BIO gear on his Atlanta flight today.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:58 | 5283087 tmosley
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From my reading, perhaps the best thing you could do would be to prepare a LOT of sweetened saline solution (1 tablespoon salt+1tablespoon sugar per liter/quart of water).  Drink it if you find yourself sick.  Have it close at hand so you can try to minimize contact with caregivers.  Have a bucket close at hand to vomit and shit into, which should be changed regularly by your caregiver.  Have lots of rags and a bucket of clean water to dip them in to help with the fever.  Throw them out with the crap in the vomit bucket (mix with bleach prior to disposal, do not pour down the drain).

Also, go out TODAY and buy respirators.  Even low grade will do fine.  Airborne transfer is in aerisolized body fluid droplets, which will be caught by any cheapo mask.  Leave as little skin exposed as possible while going out and about.

This is serious fucking business.  Don't fuck around with normalcy bias here.  It could well kill you.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:02 | 5283096 DoChenRollingBearing
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Surgical/face masks.  Eucalyptus Oil.  Goggles.  Rubber gloves in men's sizes.

I heard on right-wing talk-radio (hey, my favorite kind), that panic may set in once about we have "Patient Three"...

tmosley is right, don't mess with this, get started now.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:08 | 5283105 ZerOhead
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DoChen my old buddy... don't make me bitch slap you back to reality (which is seriously crazy enough) OK?

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:56 | 5283235 DoChenRollingBearing
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Have you ever listened to left-wing talk radio?  <-- Do they still even broadcast?  I would rather listen to all the Christian haranguers when I am in the South...

Not slappin' me back to any reality, pal, I'm a newly minted corporal in the Tinfoil Hat Brigade!

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 00:04 | 5283252 TruthInSunshine
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I talked to a relative who mentioned the dean of some NYC medical school was on CNN (or some other cable network) at 11:15 est and stated the only way to contract Ebola is literally to smear blood from an infected person on your mucous membranes.

Seriously?

Is anyone else finding this bullshit, being propagated by the MSM, beyond I credible at this point?

This guy is claiming this even after (as my link above with direct quotes of Friedan) the CDC acknowledged today that it can be transmitted via thematic, and others have identified sweat, etc., as other contraction methods.

WTFTFTFTF!!!!!!!

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 00:46 | 5283312 The Doofus
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Ebola is a walk in the park.  All you need to do is avoid vomit and feces.  I'm more worried about ass cancer.  The Big C will eventually drag me to hell.  But what's a boy to do?

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 06:05 | 5283624 boogerbently
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Don't worry about being out of a job, or war in the middle east, or Russia, or political corruption or the economy.

Ebola will make you die a slow and painful death !!!

Remember Y2K ?

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 08:42 | 5283968 phaedrus1952
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Doofus, I am about 95% kicking ass on my melanoma with - as ridiculous as it sounds - twice-a-day baking soda with syrup.

Not gonna threadjack here and didn't plan on sharing till 100% results, but your comment prompted this.  Good luck,  bro.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:57 | 5283230 Dakota Kid
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This Ebola thing in the USA is either a hoax or is being allowed to spread deliberately to impose marshal law, to have an excuse to implode the economy, or to cover some other action, etc.

Bill Gates is working on it. If you believe he wants to save your life, you are as dumb as a box of rocks. His agenda is to eliminate most of the world's population. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc-20VK9TbA

Look at how he helped India.

http://nsnbc.me/2013/05/08/bill-gates-polio-vaccine-program-caused-47500...

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 02:29 | 5283446 zhandax
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It occurred to me today that this does not pass the sniff test.  If they do not have the means to contain it, it is currently vectored to spread like wildfire through the newest of democrat voters.  People afraid of imminent death do not vote to maintain the status quo, and there is an election in, what, a month?

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 03:24 | 5283487 Titus
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Still don't get it do you? Elections are theatre. This gives pretense and in essence legitimacy for marshall law.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 03:46 | 5283497 zhandax
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While I don't discount that possibility, it hasn't happened yet...  People under martial law don't vote period, and that destroys the illusion.  This shit show is all about the illusion.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 04:39 | 5283556 WOAR
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Hey, if dead people can vote, then surely people under martial law can vote...

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 04:52 | 5283563 zhandax
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Think of the logical extension of this line of thought.. the holiday campaign....Obola insurance keeps you safe; we wiped out Ebola in Dallas...

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 18:27 | 5286738 boogerbently
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All this conspiracy theory surroundig obama/ebola would depend COMPLETELY on everyone doing what he says.

There just aren't enough black muslims in power to pull that off. Plus, it's the poor Dem neighborhoods that will be most affected. Denser population, less sanitary, underinformed.

You don't think the generals are going to tell this Chicago hustler to F off or we'll have another JFK type martyr.

The military is CONSTITUTIONALLY bound,also, and I think they take that committment more seriously than the Kenyan.

 

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 08:29 | 5283929 Jadr
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FYI: It's martial law, not marshall law. 

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 08:29 | 5283926 Jadr
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FYI: It's martial law, not Marshall law. 

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 18:20 | 5286719 boogerbently
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ISIS doesn't pass the "sniff test" either.

But, then, neither did IRS hard drive destroy/erase/misplace, Behghazi, "pass it to see what's in it", no birth cert........

In a metaphorical sense, America has lost it's sense of smell.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 01:46 | 5283399 Miffed Microbio...
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Nice to see you Dochen. I've missed you. Now when everything is so much more uncertain then ever before, it's great to have old friends return.

This issue is so complex and getting useful information will be challenging in the future. I fear suppression is in the future to quell panic. We need to stay united.

Miffed

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 06:43 | 5283641 mvsjcl
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Suppression will only quell awareness, which will lead to more deaths.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 01:02 | 5283341 gatorboat
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No worries, I'm confident your 400 million guns will stop ebola like they'll stop all the other bad shit happening.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:13 | 5283118 BringOnTheAsteroid
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If someone sneezes or coughs in your face that is direct contact in my books. What will be truly fascinating is if the virus has mutated so that it can be carried over tens of meters. If it has, WOW, mother nature sure does not fuck around when it comes to dealing with over population.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:05 | 5283064 ZerOhead
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Lock it down so nothing moves... send in twice as many personnel and equipment as you think you will need and do it NOW.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:24 | 5283138 BringOnTheAsteroid
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This is the dilemma, there's too many god damned people living in too close a quarters. We've long passed the tipping point of being (on a purely numbers basis) able to control an outbreak in a major population centre. Where are the resources going to come from and when medical staff are deployed to combat Ebola, old people, young people and everyone in between don't magically stop being sick.

One day, very shortly, I shit you not, we will wake to news that will leave us paralysed with fear. At that moment we may be faced with considering our own mortality and very few of us will be ready to face this fact. Whether by contracting the virus or starving to death, our societies have become so highly geared to uniterrupted distribution channels. We fail to realise the predicament we have placed ourselves in and have been wiillfully blind to our growth and cionsumption without giving a flying fuck about the environment around us.

It's time humans. It's time we have to swallow some rancid humble pie and admit we fucking deserve it. Mother nature is going to start cashing some long overdue cheques.

 

 

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 00:14 | 5283268 ZerOhead
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All the more reason to act quickly.

Cramped quarters and somewhat less than hygenic living conditions occur both in Africa and Asia so it has to be stopped from spreading geographically NOW.

The more people that become infected the more mutations are created in those people. Plus it has already been observed exhibiting airborne tansmissionl between pigs and monkeys.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 03:02 | 5283472 zhandax
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Population density is certainly a factor, but not a certain deliverance.  My Great-grandfather died from the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic in a county with a population density of about 2/mi2.  He was, however, one of the local pastors and had to provide comfort to the families.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 04:58 | 5283569 olenumbersix
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So I should try and catch ebola now while there is a chance to get treatment before the system gets over run ? Better chance to live and get some immunity ?

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:02 | 5282922 Keyser
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Damn edits...

 

The Litany Against Fear...

I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

 

I believe the current storyline more closely resembles '12 Monkeys' as opposed to Dune... 

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:14 | 5282946 ZerOhead
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No need to fear unless it mutates or you live in Western Africa.

While airborn transmission is possible for this particular virus if it were easy everyone in Africa would be dead already...

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:25 | 5282997 johngaltfla
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What if it is not Ebola but a BioWarfare Weapon?

 

Or what if this is the start of WWIII and we just received a silent but deadly Pearl Harbor.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:27 | 5283161 X.inf.capt
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where did that warload operate..the one who kidnapped all those girls and wanted to form his own caliphate? inquiring minds want to know...

 

 

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:32 | 5283183 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Maybe, but I doubt our knowledge of virusus is extensive enough to be able to deliberately engineer an airborne version of Ebola. Nature is far smarter at this stuff than humans.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 02:02 | 5283419 Dakota Kid
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Your knowledge is 30-40 years old if you believe it can't be done.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 05:13 | 5283586 johngaltfla
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You might want to actually READ the link above. Soviet scientists developoed an airborne version of the MARV (Marburg Virus) which can be easily dispersed manually or via a missile warhead. All one would have to do is find a suicidal Jihadist, he injects himself with the virus and voila. A silent American Pearl Harbor where millions die.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:34 | 5283027 SF beatnik
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So now, NBC news cameraman infected in Liberia.

 

HOW THE FUCK DID THAT HAPPEN???

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:16 | 5283048 ZerOhead
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Probably was just standing too close to the reporter who was asking questions about the ebola vaccine the military was testing before the outbreak...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2778889/NBC-cameraman-diagnosed-...

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 01:24 | 5283378 nightshiftsucks
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 So please do tell how all of those health workers with the recomended PPE got Ebola ? Zero brains is more like it.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 03:31 | 5283492 Titus
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No need to fear unless it mutates or you live in Western Africa.

While airborn transmission is possible for this particular virus if it were easy everyone in Africa would be dead already...

This statement has ZerOlogic. Exponential timelines do not start at the top, they start at the bottom and get there on an exponential growth curve. We're still early, but ebola is on track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:01 | 5282924 Samual Adams
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Sweat....So sweaty hands and clothing that touches any thing.    

 

Saliva, so by sneezing, coughing, etc.   

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:49 | 5282981 ZerOhead
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So what if I'm sweating but healthy while the chick with ebola I'm nailing is bone dry?

Hey... just askin'...

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:59 | 5283089 DoChenRollingBearing
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I think that would indicate ZerOknowledge...

:p

:)

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:28 | 5283172 X.inf.capt
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LOL

:)

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 05:42 | 5283606 Winston Churchill
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Still no one addressing the carrier issue.

Other virii like hepatitis have carriers, some who had the disease,

and some that were never symptomatic.

Uptil now there was never a big enough outbreak of EV for this to be a possibility.

Now who knows.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:34 | 5283031 RafterManFMJ
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Dibersiry be ours stwength!*

*Until the lib-progs child is bleeding from his eyes and ass; reap the whirlwind mudder ****ers.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:48 | 5282860 snaphooker
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This may slow down those illegals that are moving north.

 

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:58 | 5282909 quasimodo
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Or have the exact opposite effect

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:01 | 5282926 nmewn
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"I wonder what the incubation period would be for a new virus strain, say Mexican TB crossed with ebola."- Dr.Mengele.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 00:56 | 5283328 Whoa Dammit
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We may just find out soon--

Take a look at the Mexican cleaning up the Ebola vomit with a pressure washer & no hazmat gear at the Dallas apartment complex where the Ebola spreader was staying. ( First Video in link). Then take a look at the second video of the apartment complex's residents hanging out on the sidewalks and kids running around everywhere after Ebola vomit was in the area for 4 days.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2777788/Panicked-parents-pull-ki...

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 06:06 | 5283625 nmewn
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Yeah, I probably shouldn't make light of it. But in the whole scheme of things, its so far down the list of my priorities to be concerned with as to be almost irrelevant.

Look at how TPTB are dealing with it. They haven't stopped any travel to & from where it originates while at the same time pushing the idea 24/7 that they are needed to contain it. They (along with the MSM) have the people almost in a blind panic over it. Its like a God-send for statists...or as I like to say...Squirrels!

If it was so serious they would ban flights which stop in west African countries. If it was so serious the World Health Organization would have so many UN aid workers on the ground in Liberia you wouldn't be able to touch the ground, just walk on top of anything blue you see. And in Texas, there's more traffic at the front door of that apartment than they've probably seen in years, Red Cross aid workers dropping off boxes of food, law enforcemet, medical, CDC, reporters...all...without throw away footies or HazMat suits or gloves.

And I'm supposed to worry? Naw.

They were pushing this ebola story long before they brought back the two missionaries to Atlanta for treatment. Ebola has been known for decades at its source yet it hasn't spread throughout Africa.

I'm just not buying into all the hype surrounding it.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 06:41 | 5283638 Ghordius
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imho "how serious it is" is a matter of perception, which could change if a first-world country would have let's say a few dozen or even hundreds victims

on the other side, the common cold and various flus kills thousands every year, if I remember correctly. again, perspective vs hype. I prefer perspective, so I agree on not buying the hype

my two cents on washing hands being the bane of viruses here

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:44 | 5283059 Buck Johnson
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Bingo, they have to lie.  If they told the truth what would happen?  People would go nuts and demand the govt. do the impossible or the horrible like but africans in camps.

 

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 04:54 | 5283567 Ebanga Planti
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Everything is CERTAINLY under control like our security system before 9/11. The anthrax case may repeat it slf here. FEAR NOT WE ARE THE WORLD POWER

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:37 | 5282809 stocktivity
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Ebola is a body killer.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:56 | 5282900 holmes
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If there's a God, our "Leaders" in Washington will get this Ebola shit. Especially those that are allowing this disease in because of the need to be politically correct.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:19 | 5282974 TheReplacement
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More like those unrepentant "leaders" will go to hell for eternity when they die.

This life is nothing but a test.  Tests suck.  Get over it.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:40 | 5283200 BringOnTheAsteroid
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If god is omnipotent then it already knows who is going to heaven and hell, so why the fuck not just set the initial conditions of the universe with all the good people in heaven and bad people in hell, and save one mother fucking load of trouble. Or maybe, just maybe this god thing is a human concoction.

 

Just wondering, with all the prognostications on right and wrong in that wonderously convoluted thing called a bible, what is gods view on farting. Is it bad? Is it immoral? God seems to be so worried about what goes into a guys ass, is it at all concerned about what comes out? Now there's a question for the ages.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:37 | 5283036 RafterManFMJ
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I'm thinking God looked around about 2000 years ago, said "Check Please" and caught the first bus out of our Universe.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:04 | 5283098 RattNRoll
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lol...

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 08:21 | 5283897 Incubus
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"Yeah, sure.. I'll be back.  Wait for me. Just keep praying. I'll catch you later. :)"

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:04 | 5282928 Sizzurp
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These folks have every right to be nervous. We have leaders in the CDC and in Wash. ready to put the interests of diseased West African criminal defectors ahead of Americans. Will a real American leader please stand up?

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:42 | 5283053 sandhillexit
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Yes and the family is locked down, in the neighborhood in a house with the contaminated linens etc.  Where are the grown-ups?  Dallas thinks this can't jump the freeway?

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:44 | 5283061 drendebe10
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"We're here from the gummint to piss on your back and tell you it's raining."

Faith in gummint bureacracies to solve yhe countries woes? Can anyone say Katrina, Phoenix VA hospital quality care, obamadcare, Dept of Energy, Deparyment of Education, EPA, eyc etc etc?

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:50 | 5283078 Trogdor
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Fear may be the mind killer - but it's also the only tool in our gubmint's toolbox.  When they turn up the volume this much, I have to believe that the opposite is true ....

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 00:48 | 5283315 Ginsengbull
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If it was really dangerous, they wouldn't be telling us about it at all.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:10 | 5283106 Holleyman
Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:12 | 5283115 Freddie
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People voted for this twice in 2008 and 2012 though 2012 was stolen.

Thank a liberal and or Democrat for open borders and ebola.  Thank RINOs like McCain and Rubio.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:39 | 5283195 junction
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"NBC's Dr. Nancy: 'We Present Zero to Minimal Risk'

The NBC News freelancer who tested positive for Ebola in Liberia was diagnosed early, and his reporting team is healthy, NBC's Dr. Nancy Snyderman says." What a difference two months makes.  At the end of July, Dr. Snyderman was pooh poohing the what now turns out to have been a hidden massive Ebola outbreak in West Africa.  When I posted off topic my doubts on her happy talk here at Zero hedge on August 2, the next poster attacked me.  Another pathetic hallway monitor.  Now Dr. Snyderman is quarantining herself after comong in contact with a freelancer/Ebola carrier. She never should have taken the assignment to go to Liberia.  The Death Zone perimeter is spreading from there all the way to Dallas.  If Ebola gets into the animal population in America, it will become endemic.  At least most Americans don't eat bush meat.      
Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:41 | 5283199 Bloppy
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Government's Ebola fiasco seems to have Rush Limbaugh, Anderson Cooper in rare agreement

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:26 | 5282765 Stormtrooper
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Better start stocking Zmapp in your prepper supplies.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:28 | 5282772 Ginsengbull
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Whats a zmapp?

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:29 | 5282780 Moe Hamhead
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ZMAPP:  supposed anti-ebola med.  Strictly experimental.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:33 | 5282788 fervent in spirit
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Or you can stock up on this. (Silver-stackers will love this)

http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/08/simple-cure-for-ebola-monster-virus/

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:39 | 5282819 Ginsengbull
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That's only 10 parts per million, or 0.001%.

 

Hell, I'll get more by sucking on a 1964 dime while drinking a four loco.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:01 | 5282920 bunzbunzbunz
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you making me smiles thank you please.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:43 | 5283052 RafterManFMJ
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4loco! I shot some Sam Adams from my nose - and yes it burns.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:51 | 5282851 HungryPorkChop
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Go with a multi-prong approach as there's a lot of distrust that nano-silver is very effective against viruses but primarily best against bacteria.  So I wouldn't rule anything out but highly suggest  Liposomal Vitamin C in liquid form only!  Keep away from the tablets.

Just watch this espisode of 60 Minutes and you'll understand why this may be the best defense against really nasty viruses that are resistant to standard treatment protocols.  This person had Swine Flu which is a virus and on deaths door:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTXSTGGRvKY

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:07 | 5282929 Keyser
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Mega doses of IV Vitamin C has been proven to cure most forms of cancer, but of course you won't hear that through most mainstream medicine... I'm surprised this was on 60 minutes...

 

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:40 | 5283041 WillyGroper
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Because 60 minutes is so UN-captured?

Do agree liposomal C is absorbed w/o bowel intolerance to the equivalent of an IV absorption, rights the body PH, & stimulates the immune system.

 

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:47 | 5282855 tmosley
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Silver interfres with protein folding.  If you have enough of it in your system to interfere with virus replication, you're already dead.

There is no such thing as a panecea.  PERIOD.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:02 | 5282923 bunzbunzbunz
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shhhhhhhhhh. dont use logics.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:05 | 5282933 Keyser
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Not to mention turning blue, literally...

 

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:46 | 5283067 Consuelo
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'What about EMS recombination'...?

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:52 | 5282883 Implied Violins
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Colloidal silver really works best for bacterial infections, not viruses. For Ebola, I'd say the best thing you can do is build your immune system by eating right (e.g. no corn syrup, no GMO's, etc.) and looking into the various herbal remedies, as well as minerals like selenium and zinc. Also, stock up on Vitamin C; taking large doses of it during an illness really works (with Ebola, LOTS will be needed as Vitamin C is what the virus actually *removes* from your cells). Regular cold showers have also been shown to improve immune response, believe it or not. And: don't fear. If you believe you will get sick, well guess what you will create...

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:14 | 5283121 Things that go bump
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There is anecdotal evidence that high dose vitamin D3 will prevent influenza. I read an article by a psychiatrist who wrote that some years back he was doing a residency in a mental institution and they were trying high dose vitamin D3 as a treatment. When the flu came through and the other patients were dropping like flies none of those on his ward caught sick, which he found passing strange, and the only difference between those on his ward and the others was the high dose vitamin D3. I don't know how effective it would be for Ebola, nor do I know the dosage his patient's were on. I take about 4,000 units daily during the summer, but in the fall I start slowly increasing the dose. It hasn't done me any harm.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:34 | 5282792 Ginsengbull
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Thanks, but personally I would rather go with quarantining myself away from all the infected populace.

 

Like Poe's masque of the red death, or something.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:55 | 5282889 Oldwood
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You recon the feverish infected show up any better on heat sensitive night scope?

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 00:43 | 5283307 Ginsengbull
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Only if it's one of those top-of-the-line Raytheon thermal imaging scopes, and then only if their ripe enough to be running a fever.

 

Thermal indications might not show up for 2 weeks.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:35 | 5282795 25or6to4
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GinsengBull
That's French for "the map"..... What are you stupid or sumthin?

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:36 | 5282803 Ginsengbull
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I'm not going to answer that.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:27 | 5282766 ebworthen
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And the fucks in .gov allow inbound flights from known Ebola infected countries to stream in.

Dr. Richard Besser on ABC tonight at the village where the Texas Man was - he was shaking hands with the nurse at the clinic where the Woman died - and walking about un-gloved and unprotected.

Brilliant, get the story and don't stop commerce so we can let the infected stream across the borders.

Oh, of course, people won't lie about their contact with infected relatives, people will not kiss or have sex, and will always wash their hands after taking a dump.

Nobody cheats, the I.R.S. is fair, and the .gov cares about you.

*cough*

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:40 | 5283028 MonsterBox
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NBC cameraman just caught it.  http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs/nbc-crew-be-quarantined-21-days_808490...

Interestingly the crew is not flying back on a "zero-chance-of-transmission" commercial airliner. 

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:26 | 5282769 Ginsengbull
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last seen by neighbors in the parking lot vomiting on the street.

 

That must have been some projectile vomit, to go all the way from the parking lot to the street.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:38 | 5282814 fonzannoon
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"The officials said it had been difficult to find a contractor willing to enter the apartment to clean it and remove bedding and clothes, which they said had been bagged in plastic. They said they now had hired a firm that would do the work soon. The Texas health commissioner, Dr. David Lakey, told reporters during an afternoon news conference that officials had encountered “a little bit of hesitancy” in seeking a firm to clean the apartment.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/us/dallas-ebola-case-thomas-duncan-con...

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:45 | 5282845 MsCreant
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Some gasoline and a blow torch, then some beach afterwards. What's the probelm people???

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:46 | 5282854 fonzannoon
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I always thought guys in hazmat suits showed up. This guy may have made it back to Dallas but what a difference what part of Dallas you end up in really makes.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:57 | 5282887 Yes_Questions
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The response has been more Sunshine Cleaning on their first day than Winston Wolf on a good one.

 

how are the aware not to be FUCKING CONCERNED?!?!?

 

and how the hell are the paranoid supposed to even function at all??

 

I'm beginning to have trouble with pantry doors even...

 

 

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:05 | 5282934 MsCreant
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Many door knobs I have touched today, I have wondered "How long until I won't be able to do this anymore?" Enjoyed a nice steak dinner tonight with my hubby. How many more of those will I be willing to do?

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:45 | 5283062 MonsterBox
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A lot of guys in my office building travel. How long do I trust the crapper, vending machine, or the door handles? 

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:17 | 5282966 X.inf.capt
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@MsCreant

true...

my woman and i are seriously thinking about bugging in... as you said, "relax, and fill up your water barrels,,and if they dont have it contained, ITS ON!...

well, mscreant, me thinks its ON!

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:36 | 5283017 ZerOhead
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If you are typing this from Liberia you are correct especially if you clean public toilets for a living... otherwise you are going to be OK.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:26 | 5283160 RafterManFMJ
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Emailed 401K loan request for max amount.
Put the kibosh on 20K worth of new windows - going with 200 dollars worth of plastic.

Scouring local papers for a bit of land I can hold as Humanity's Lasf Redoubt*

Forbade the wife from using public transportation.

GAME ON!

*bugging in can be boring. I highly recommend Awake in the Night Land as an addition to your Kindle.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:48 | 5283049 percyklein
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Like, with your naked hand? (Door knobs I mean.) Who does that at all these days anyway? 

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 05:07 | 5283579 LULZBank
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How long before it will be dangerous to even breath open air?

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 07:52 | 5283778 jemlyn
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Best home defense in case of chaos and food riots..... sign on the doors, "Sickness here, please wear full protection before entering"

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:51 | 5282874 Teamtc321
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I have a beeach, I'd volunteer to throw in, prior to the blow torch.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:57 | 5282904 fonzannoon
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check out the comments from that article. Wow...I mean if this is not the libs I don't know what is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxuwXczWQC0

each quote is from a different commenter. I could go on and on.

"Curious as to why the city/county does not have a biohazard response team to sanitize this apartment and its surroundings. Budget cuts (to fund tax cuts) would be my guess. A little government doesn't look so bad now, does it Texas?"

"But, hey, Texas has just been given the green light to close 13 abortion clinics, so why should they worry about a little thing like Ebola."

"Maybe Texas should expand Medicaid under the ACA so that people who have Ebola-like symptons will go to the hospital and so that hospitals will treat them. For the same reason, maybe we should have universal health care."

"I would also have to ask whether Texans' reputation for stupid risk-taking has somehow now managed to put everyone else in danger. Viruses play no favorites, and risky business all too often is rewarded by dire results, not only to those involved, but to anyone else even tangentially involved."

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:10 | 5283108 Fuku Ben
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There's nothing like American ingenuity and your penchant for overkill (assuming you're American)

One of my fondest memories of America was the Knob Creek machine gun night shoot I attended in 2012

H202 will do the trick just fine. No need to burn or kill anything but the virus

http://www.cdc.gov/hicpac/disinfection_sterilization/7_0formaldehyde.html

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:18 | 5283134 Things that go bump
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That thought had occurred to me too, Ms.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:49 | 5282864 seek
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I doesn't seem like they had any problems getting the vomit cleaned up, though you have to wonder about the sanity of cleaning vomit containing a highly contagious virus with a pressure washer and no protective clothing.

It's nice that they want to clean up the bedding, but I wonder if they've considered the fact that this guy's virus-laden piss, shit and puke is likely all over the sewer system under those apartments...

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:57 | 5282901 Oldwood
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Rinsed into storm sewers to infect rats...the plague!

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:35 | 5283029 daveeemc2
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its worse than u think - ebola passes right thru the treatment plant used to "treat" human waste.

Then its spread on farm fields where your food is grown.

Take a look at wikipedia article on sewage sludge.

And here's a brief introduction to get you started.

The program exists because the waste industry makes BILLION$$$$ off trucking off everyones poop (ebola diseased people too) and convincing those farmers that grow your food that spreading diseased human shit on our food is "safe".

 

 

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 02:39 | 5283458 Tegrat
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No virus is going to last a few days outside a host and most are destroyed in seconds/minutes exposed to air.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 08:33 | 5283942 backwaterdogs
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Not sure why this surprises me, but it does.

 

Gotta quit reading ZH....it distrubs my delusional reaiity.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:51 | 5282872 DaddyO
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Two and a half years ago, I was infected with an E.Coli bug after cleaning out a crack house with human feces on the floor.. I suited up in a tyvek suit with taped gloved hands, booties and face shield. It took me weeks to regain my strength and a two week run of Cipro. Ran a 103 fever for two weeks even taking the cipro. It nearly killed me. I would not want to even think about Ebola and the hazmat protocols. It's just not worth the risk of infection.

DaddyO

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:00 | 5282916 Oldwood
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Anecdotal evidence can't compete with scientific facts as presented by government scientists paid to offer reassurance to the public. Does anyone question what these scientists jobs really are? Are they actually doing science or just paid "consultants" certified and pedigreed to present facts as needed.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:31 | 5283011 seek
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Yeah, kind of interesting that the government scientists say the public isn't at risk, but when the government is handling ebola, they do it here.

Seems just a tad inconsistent if you ask me.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:30 | 5283013 TBT or not TBT
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Fire trucks filled with fucking Bleach.   The gold standard for killing every microbe and disintegrating any virus.   According to an esteemed a decorated microbiologist acquaintance.  

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:26 | 5283152 himaroid
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Any resistance now? 

Depends?

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 01:54 | 5283404 nightshiftsucks
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 Yeah and most people think you just throw on a level A and your good to go. The truth is that you need to be SCBA qualified or have an external air source that you can plug into the suit. I have  hazwoper training and have worn level A suits in traing and actual incidents. They get hot,face mask fogs up and sometimes you get claustrophobic. If you haven't had the trainging don't try and use one.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:50 | 5283074 booboo
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So, these are the "jobs that americans will not do.

It all makes perfect sense now, bring in mexicans that have a superior immune system due to living in squalor their entire life and not taking antibiotics when they get the sniffels, start the epedemic in Dallas Tejas and have mexicans clean up for bill gates so he can ride nekked horseback through the streets of any major city without seeing a soul.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:49 | 5282866 Otto Zitte
Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:27 | 5282770 db51
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As long as they can keep Ebola and other diseases in the news and hype the hysteria, the focus will be taken off Obummer's shitty assed performace.   The Democrats need at least 100 Ebola victims in hospitals coast to coast.   I mean, seriously, who the fuck will be willing to stand in line with a bunch of illegals to cast a vote in November.  Mission Accomplished.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:33 | 5282791 max2205
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Democrats finally fucked Texas

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:37 | 5282802 One And Only
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I always vote absentee. No lines.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:05 | 5282936 HippieHaulers
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I don't see how this looks good for Obummer. I think he's supposed to look like a stooge at this point. My concern is how DOWNPLAYED it's been generally with the MSM. Compare it to SARS swine bird flu etc it's really been downplayed. What that means I don't know. Culling time?

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 23:05 | 5283103 drendebe10
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The incompetent arrogant narcissistic pathological liar in chief pronounces it "eboly". Sort of like its pronunciation of "navy corpse-men."  

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:15 | 5282958 yogibear
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Especially the red states.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 22:23 | 5282989 jimsoong25
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Unleashing Ebola in the US is how you stop the Republicans from taking over the Senate.  I don't think it coming to America 4 weeks before the election is an accident.  Within 2-3 weeks, Dems will be calling for Obama to delay or even cancel the mid-term elections for public safety reasons.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:29 | 5282774 fonzannoon
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everyone, and i mean everyone, is taking this very seriously.

 

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/10/02/watch-giants-co-owner-steve-tisch...

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:30 | 5282778 Cloud9.5
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If you want to know where this is going read this:  “A middle-aged woman walked into the emergency room of Phebe Hospital with a fever on the evening of June 23.”

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/24/health/ebola-epidemic-liberia/

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:31 | 5282785 Ginsengbull
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Commie news network.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:32 | 5282789 fonzannoon
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you shoot that sneeze right in the fuckin face!

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 21:34 | 5282793 Help Is Not Coming
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The panic will start when the next ebola patient presents himself to the hospital who didn't have any foreign travel nor any contact with anyone in the current contact chain.

Of course those will probably be the totally unprotected vomit cleanup crew.

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