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Doctor Boards Atlanta Flight In HazMat Suit To Protest "Lying CDC"
"If they're not lying, they are grossly incompetent," said Dr. Gil Mobley, a microbiologist and emergency trauma physician from Springfield, Mo. as he checked in and cleared Atlanta airport security wearing a mask, goggles, gloves, boots and a hooded white jumpsuit emblazoned on the back with the words, "CDC is lying!" As The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports, Mobley says the CDC is "sugar-coating" the risk of the virus spreading in the United States.
As The Atlanta Journal Constitution reports,
A Missouri doctor Thursday morning boarded a plane at Atlanta’s Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport dressed in full protection gear to protest what he called mismanagement of the crisis by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Dr. Gil Mobley checked in and cleared airport security wearing a mask, goggles, gloves, boots and a hooded white jumpsuit emblazoned on the back with the words, “CDC is lying!”
“If they’re not lying, they are grossly incompetent,” said Mobley, a microbiologist and emergency trauma physician from Springfield, Mo.
Mobley said the CDC is “sugar-coating” the risk of the virus spreading in the United States.
“For them to say last week that the likelihood of importing an Ebola case was extremely small was a real bad call,” he said.
“Once this disease consumes every third world country, as surely it will, because they lack the same basic infrastructure as Sierra Leone and Liberia, at that point, we will be importing clusters of Ebola on a daily basis,” Mobley predicted. “That will overwhelm any advanced country’s ability to contain the clusters in isolation and quarantine. That spells bad news.”
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Mobley, a Medical College of Georgia graduate who had an overnight layover after flying to Atlanta from Guatemala on Wednesday...
“Yesterday, I came through international customs at the Atlanta airport,” the doctor told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “The only question they asked arriving passengers is if they had tobacco or alcohol.”
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It seems CDC Director Frieden agrees...
.@CNN Evaluation of feverish illness in recent traveler must include thorough travel & exposure history. CDC info: http://t.co/jgcpqZYF4T
— Dr. Tom Frieden (@DrFriedenCDC) October 2, 2014
.@BloombergNews CDC is urging health workers to ask patients w/ these symptoms (fever, severe headache, muscle pain) about travel history.
— Dr. Tom Frieden (@DrFriedenCDC) October 2, 2014
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Will somebody take that dam monkeys hammer away!
Hey Doc of course they are incompetent they are part of government.
Time to liquidate the baby boomers
Nice choice of words, given the symptoms.
You assume this virus is discriminatory.
It will liquidate anyone.
Its been reported the family that is supposed to be quarantined..is having friends over...lol....this is how it spreads..when stupid people make stupid choices...its the lowest IQ that will kill us all...
You must balance cultural requisites against society's needs. /sarc
To do otherwise is insensitive. /sarc
Actually, they are to stay at home and not have visitors. Unless you have a link ...
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ebola-patients-family-ordered-stay-inside-l...
He could be right.
That or he is a CIA shill spreading fear to install tyrany.
Where is my bottle when I need it..
He's a shill. TSA let him through. Had you or I pulled this stunt, we'd get the beat down.
+1.
heh, as per usual here, lone voice amongst the echoes. . .
so - does anyone remember the (Black) Mayor of Atlanta attending Bilderberg planning party recently?
anyone else remember the Tex-Ass Gov. Perry is a firm fave with those Bilderberg-errrs?
what are the chances, eh? the plots thicken.
random links for entertainment purposes only, like everything else.
;)
another "blood moon" incoming 8 October. . .
should prove interesting as things "go viral".
great minds think alike.
What was the name of that song?
It's not just the CDC. It's a culture in Federal Government -- a work environment where doing the minimum necessary is fully acceptable; where self-interest is the guiding motivation; where entitlement as a sustainable philosophy exists; and where consequences for making mistakes reach heights of putting a letter into a filing cabinet that no one will ever see or act upon.
Sorry .gov workers -- you're inept. All of you. Each an every one. If you were good enough to compete and thrive in the private sector, you would have made that move a long time ago. But you're not, and no degree of arm flailing or internet postings is going to change that very observable fact.
and by "Federal Government" are you also including one of the big beneficiaries of said Corporation,
allopathic "medicine" sanctuaries - aka doctors & hospitals & pharmaceuticals & "ensurances" for same?
because they're all one big ball of the same. . .
cui bono?
Yep, it's the Peter Principle. People in hierarchical structures get promoted until they reach the level of their incompetence...and their they sit. So all hierarchical structures are incompetent.
Applies to big business, government, beaurocracies, most bloody anything. But particularly to government....
that, and "need to know" basis-hierarchy, plus collusion with such august institutions as the AMA - just another mafia profiteering gig, based on memorising a certain perspective, and excluding everything that doesn't "fit" - including the mandatory uniforms, awarded upon debt-paid for Job Title. there's yer tell. . .
don't believe me? is the .gov in the service of mandatory enlisting all amrkn peoples to get their shots/pills from the holy MDs?
due/do diligence.
You're such a well of information.
Understand you like kippers. ;O
yom yom!!
actually, I'm wary of 'em, something always smells "fishy" - y'know?
But isn't CDC a division of Pfizer by now?
inept? yes
dumb? no, given their bennies, pensions, job security, rising wages, etc.
Why would they move to the private sector when the pay and bennies are so much inferior to a government job? Besides that, they might actually be required to do things like show up on time. No more long lunches. No more leaving early, and they might actually have to do some work.
If this baby takes down a million they will call it a human tragedy.
If it takes down 4 billion they will call it a success.
Do what I'm doing - PANIC STOCK-UP ON FOOD!
Can't, I'm too busy hiding under my bed from the scary terrorists with a pair of scissors. Oh why, oh why didn't I put out my gun free zone sign?
All I know is that if they ever find Ebola can be spread on the golf course shit will get real in a hurry.
The elites and our "leaders" are TERRIFIED of this - same as a "dirty bomb" in Manhattan - precisely because all their frauds, police, guns, banks, laws and courts can do nothing to stop them dying from it themselves.
This is why it's not a conspiracy. It's too dangerous to try.
If Jewish Banksters supported Hitler & the Nazis,
killing hundreds of thousands of Jews,
Then any elites dying of Ebola
will be part of the necessary sacrifice to Satan.
Very few Zionist Jews were killed in concentration camps. And very few NON-Zionist Jews were a part of the Nazi administration.
It was partially Jew on Jew warfare, w/ the Nazis taking the lions share of the blame.
My wife thought I was crazy when I told her that I ordered mask and goggles after I heard about the first ebola case in Dallas. Yea I'm crazy or a f'ing genius, but I'll live with it! All other supplies have been stocked up for awile now. Point being I rather have it in hand than wished I could get it if something went wrong.
Hope those goggles don't ship through Dallas on their way to your place. A lot of hands could touch that box to get it to it's final destination....
;(
37% price spike in 24 hours .... I need to find more investments to make like that.
Definitely chocolate as cocoa comes out of West Africa.
repost of something we can do..to all: I have called my reps in congress and ask they demand the immediate resignations of the heads of all agencies tasked with the security of our borders and the health of our nation..
cdc, hls, tsa, customs border control,
please do likewise.
Instead of calling, send a letter. On the back of the envelope write –
“The stamp was licked, tee-hee-hee.”
I live on the grid. Once the water departmetn people quit showing up for work, my basement will backfill with sewage.
That's a shitty situation.
Looks like a guy who has a date with a nailgun in his future.
And I was just going to send some fake canned bat to my favorite members of Congress. This guy makes me feel like a pussy.
http://www.asnaggydime.com/php/item_show.php?NG,1830,ALSO
Fuck me. What happens when ebola sufferers mad at the govt for not acting start mailing ebola-laced letters to their congressmen? Anthrax might be detectable in the mail, ebola is not. If people start doing this then it will be an excuse for the police state to lock everything down in marshall law.
This whole thing is a big fucking nightmare. For those who haven't seen it, this is a great educational video on the exponential function and human population.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY
Ebola is now going exponential.
“Once this disease consumes every third world country, as surely it will, because they lack the same basic infrastructure as Sierra Leone and Liberia, at that point, we will be importing clusters of Ebola on a daily basis,” Mobley predicted. “That will overwhelm any advanced country’s ability to contain the clusters in isolation and quarantine. That spells bad news.”
Oh Nos!
Quick! Please, send some US troops around randomly selected countries to stop the outbreak of potential trade... I mean pandemic!!
They're lying AND they're incompetent. The two always go together.
As a practicing MD for almost thirty YEARs with a Masters in Public Health from UCLA, I can emphatically state that the CDC IS LYING.
America is being SCREWED.
THINK about this statement for more than a moment: "Wash your hands & wait for the vaccine?!?!"
REALLY?!?!
With such an INCREDIBLY infantile strategy, all we need to do is get Africa to USE SOAP?!?!?
Are there ADULTs ANYWHERE to be found in this administration?!?!
www.Locutions.org
Africa really ought to use soap.
Wash your hands of blood guilt
and wait for the undertaker.
Window or Aisle?
To protect yourself against infection, eboila you watta fo fitty-fy minutes.
Refrain from any/all contact with president B'Lack Obola.
When you Ebowla, spray the Ebowla ball with germicide before sticking your finners in the holes.
Don't take or give any Ebloa positions.
Don't discount the Honk-Ebola strain - tight-cheeked Caucasians are most at risk.
If infected with the above Honk-Ebola strain, your pecker would take an early hit.
Stay far away from bird turd - Honk-Ebola strain is there. Conky is susceptible.
Soda crackers contain high levels of aluminum, a powerful astringent. Makes your cheeks even tighter. Avoid these as if they were Eminem.
Why is it that the first case of Ebola outside West Africa is outside the US? Suddenly we are in panic mode and I dont see a thing from any other country. How about India, China South America, Europe. Just seems odd.
http://www.wimp.com/flyzone/
Very little traffic out of west Africa and it looks like it all goes to Europe and US. Why on Earth did we not close those flights? I was wondering if they didn't close them so US personnel could get to west Africa without a charter. That would be ironic.
In West Africa nobody can afford to travel more than a few miles from home. In the US, airplanes are used like commuter buses. Contained?
Holder will be there shortly giving out free plane tickets. Bet on it.
Dr. Kent Brantly to Congress: Ebola Is a 'Fire Straight From the Pit of Hell'
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ebola-Kent-Brantly-response-late/2014/0...
Brantly is an asset. Even his name sounds fake.
He's no fake. He's the doctor brought to the US for Ebola treatment.
Brantly said that he was one of the luckiest ones, receiving "the best care possible in Liberia ... and world-class treatment" in the United States. But, he warned, the outbreak is "a fire straight from the pit of hell. We cannot fool ourselves into thinking that the vast moat of the Atlantic Ocean will keep the flames away from our shores."
http://www.npr.org/blogs/goatsandsoda/2014/09/16/349012693/dr-kent-brant...
He was hanging with Obama and testified in front of the Senate.
He's an asset. Whether he's a witting or unwitting asset is up for debate.
Your comment regarding Dr. Brantley is an insult to a decent human being who willingly placed himself on the front lines to heal and aid the sick and dying.
That is what being a physician is all about.
I could never do what he did as I don't have the courage or the empathy.
But when he got sick, the Christian missionary was in no hurry to meet Jesus.
Believe what you like. Anyone that's urging the use of troops in order to fight a disease is just another asset.
"Wash your hands & wait for the vaccine?!?!"
With such an INCREDIBLY infantile strategy, all we need to do is get Africa to USE SOAP?!?!?
Are there ADULTs ANYWHERE to be found in this administration?!?!
www.Locutions.org
the "strain" is now predictive programming..
This grandstanding DR is probably part of the majority of DRs who are against Information technology.
They are against computerizing the patient gathering info. In this case, they would have known he was recently in West Africa.
RaceToTheBottom:
The doctor is "grandstanding?!?!" FOR WHAT GAIN?!?!
So YOU can say he's "against information technology?"
You're an I-D-I-O-T.
As a practicing MD for almost thirty YEARs with a Masters in Public Health from UCLA, I can emphatically state that the CDC IS LYING.
America is being SCREWED.
"Wash your hands & wait for the vaccine?!?!"
With such an INCREDIBLY infantile strategy, all we need to do is get Africa to USE SOAP?!?!?
Are there ADULTs ANYWHERE to be found in this administration?!?!
www.Locutions.org
Going long Clorox.
IIRC Icahn did a long time ago.
Ha ha, good luck with that play.
I'm going long body bags and coffins and funeral homes and cemetaries :)
See, there's a silver lining even in TEOTWAWKI.
We don't need some overeducated egotistical DR to know the government agency is wrong? Anyone with a brain knows CDC is talking theoretically and even that is designed to be politically correct.
The local Hospital took the information that this disease courier told them that he was just coming from West Africa and they lost that info after it had been given to the Nurse. SO Hospital procedures and technology in a hospital in TX caused this walking and flying disease courier to be sent home so that he could infect others.
Stop hiding Technologically Luddite DR errors that could have stopped this. As a 30 yr practicing DR, you are probably more of the Technology problem than of any solution...
Urine idiot with brain cleavage
Primadonna ER DRs are the major cause of this getting worse....
"The nurse was part of a “complex care team” in the emergency department, Lester said, adding: “Regretfully, that information was not fully communicated throughout the full team. As a result the full import of that question was not factored in to the clinical decision-making.”"
Probably didn't care to hear about what the Nurse took down in the intereview. How did this happen? Please speak up, Mr 30 year UCLA edumacated DR, which ego weakness that caused this do you subscribe to?
There is too much government mandated data that must be collected on each patient, making a quick assessment and triage determination impossible. Pages of crap on every chart that has nothing to do with the presenting problem and possible cause. It's the complext data dump that nurses are being forced to collect in the triage area that is making the ER far more complex and complicated to take quick effective action. Somewhere in the masses of computer screens was the information that this patient had recently traveled from Africa. The admission clerk thought the tech communicated it, the tech thought the nurse communicated it, the nurse thought the doctor understood it. And the patient certainly thought that someone might have been listening to him. In fact, everyone was so busy looking at their "high tech" computer screens that no one really understood the problem at all.
Urine idiot
I am a former ER nurse. This summer I took my daughter to a small ER for an ankle injury. The nurse spent most of her time, looking at a computer screen, trying to fill in all the data questions during the inital interview. She rarely looked directly at my daughter, let alone her swollen ankle. The nurse's eyes were glued to the screen asking so many inane and intimate questions about her personal life, including, the government mandated questions about "domestic violence," guns in the home, alcohol use etc (my daughter asked the nurse, "Does anyone really answer truthfully?) At the end of the data inquisition, she finally looked at my daughter's ankle and asked her if she wanted ice on it. No kidding, her next question was, "Would you mind walking to X-ray?" It's these total morons who are triaging for Ebola? They are so obsessed with filling in the data lines (all charts are audited for completeness) that they have forgotten to look at the patient and their presenting symptoms and actually think about what they are seeing, and listening to what the patient is telling them. Imagine handing your young child over to these idiots to manage their "quarantine" period. P
This summer, I took my 4 1/2 yr old daughter in to the combination ER/Urgent care at our local hospital. I waited till last second to get her last shots before school started as I dont like them at all but if u allow first one on day she is born, you must get them all unless a doc signs off an exemption here in ND. She had gotten two vaccines the day before, MMR and Chicken pox and was having a bad reaction...her arm had a large, expanding red circle on it and a 1.5 inch wide, 1/4 inch tall blister over the injection site. The triage nurse filled out all the computer forms 'correctly' and sent us into the urgent care. When I got bill, I was surprised to see 'reaction to medication' listed as the culprit, not vaccine reaction....I guess so they don't have to report it as a vaccine reation. So the visit to get the shot? Free...the urgent care, and two subsequent doc visits the next few days? over a thousand. Blue Cross paid about 900, and I was billed about160. Nope, nothing wrong with the 'best medical system in the world' s/ I did file a VAERS report for the reaction tho..doctors all said they had never seen a large blister form on a shot before. She seemed after a week tho, but will have a scar there the rest of her life
The incompetence and lack of trust in all government agencies, big business and the media is driving the panic. One man is able to shut down 1/3 of air traffic at O'Hara and Midway? The once highly respected Secret Service is dysfunctional. The VA system is in shambles, the CDC looses deadly samples, the Federal Reserve, bankster system and Wall Street are an insider joke, and the IRS has been criminalized. The Justice system is nothing more than a legal system used to force political agendas and fatten lawyers pockets. We now have a President who doesn't attend security briefings when we are suppose to be under continual terror threats. Police are no longer servents to the community, but revenue generation units more interested in obedience and control of the citizens. We still haven't stopped all entry into America from these contaminated countries?
The fools in government have appointed crony morons into every leadership position, not based on expertise or experience, but rather than payback, political agendas or sexual orientation. This, I believe is how great civilizations are destroyed.
"The incompetence and lack of trust in all government agencies, big business and the media is driving the panic." Agreed, the government's lost credibility limit its ability to be effective in this situation. They have lied and manipulated too many times, and the public's mutual distrust and hostility are pin-high. Would you get into the MRAP headed off to the camp? I would rather die fighting for my family on my own property. That is precisely the message I must communicate effecitvely to anyone who is part of a 'knock' team calling at my door. If they persist, I will do everything in my power to end the lives of those who would do me harm.
No one trusts anyone in govt except the trust in the FED. The vast majority of investors have 100% faith in their ability to always move the stock market forward. How else than to explain the last few years?
stateside
Refer to above post on the Peter Principle.
ok Chicken Little
Actually, dipshit, this is exactly how they die. As a bonus, many employed disinformative fucking losers and spies like the Mauryan Empire of India to maintain control. Rome died this way, so did countless others. Take your inane lack of intelligence and troll the boards of Yahoo. This comment board shows just how the general populace will question. Yes, the sky is falling. It's been for sometime. Anyone with a set of eyes can see that.
Ask yourself what is the one common denominator that binds all of those agency's together.
With the federal government you have had decades of minorities and women being hired because they were minorities and
women and whatever else the "diversity" flavor of the day was. Over decades they were promoted on the same basis to supervisory positions. Now they are in charge and totally clueless, having neither competency or ethics.
I'm curious here... If a mosquito bites someone infected with Ebola, and then bites me hours or a day later, can it transmit the virus to me?
"If a mosquito bites someone infected with Ebola"
The government is probably really fearful of telling the truth. It would shut down commerce.
I think that's a real good question. I remember wondering the same about AIDS way back in the early/mid eighties when it was first becoming known. Course, AIDS is too environmentally sensitive and unstable to be transmitted that way.
But, Ebola?
Yen, if it can be transmitted contaminated sweat getting in your eye i would think the answer to that is YES...
No, but that "no" is unlikely.
Depends on whether the mosquito is wearing a condom.
Seriously -- it seems yes the virus would be in any trace of the blood or plasma on or in the mosquito. The question is how long could it live in those environments and how long until the mosquito bites again.
"[...]Female mosquitoes bite because they need protein found in blood to develop their eggs. They choose their targets through a combination of smell, heat and visual cues, and continue seeking bloodmeals until their abdomens are full. The females can live up to about a month and feed every two or three nights during that time[...]"
"[...]Ebolavirus dried onto glass, polymeric silicone rubber, or painted aluminum alloy is able to survive in the dark for several hours under ambient conditions (between 20 and 250C(*) and 30–40% relative humidity) (amount of virus reduced to 37% after 15.4 hours), but is less stable than some other viral hemorrhagic fevers (Lassa)[...]"
"[...]membrane-bound RNA viruses: Arenaviridae (Argentine HF (Junin), Bolivian HF (Machupo) and Lassa fever viruses), Filoviridae (Ebola and Marburg viruses), "Hantaviridae" (HF with renal syndrome-nephropathia endemica), and arboviruses: Bunyaviridae (Rift Valley fever, Crimean-Congo HF viruses) and Flaviviridae (Kyasanur Forest disease and Omsk HF viruses). These arboviral HFs are transmitted by ticks or mosquitoes, whereas the others are via rodents, if known at all[...]"
Naaaah, not a chance Ebola could be airborne, mosquitos or not! /sarc
(*) I think that's a typo and they wanted to write 50°C, because Ebolavirus "[...]can be inactivated by heating for 30 minutes to 60 minutes at 60°C, boiling for 5 minutes[...]"
Overflow-admin, A correct reading of your third quote assures us that "the others are via rodents, if known at all" because Ebola is Filoviral, and NOT arboviral.
See the abstrat at http://www.cabdirect.org/abstracts/19940502136.html .
@Yen Cross
http://www.whale.to/m/scott7.html
Testing via Mosquito Vector in Punta Gorda, Florida
A report from The New England Journal of Medicine reveals that one of the first outbreaks of chronic fatigue syndrome was in Punta Gorda, Florida, back in 1957.(10) It was a strange coincidence that a week before these people came down with chronic fatigue syndrome, there was a huge influx of mosquitoes.
The National Institutes of Health claimed that the mosquitoes came from a forest fire 30 miles away. The truth is that those mosquitoes were infected in Canada by Dr Guilford B. Reed at Queen’s University. They were bred in Belleville, Ontario, and taken down to Punta Gorda and released there.
Within a week, the first five cases ever of chronic fatigue syndrome were reported to the local clinic in Punta Gorda. The cases kept coming until finally 450 people were ill with the disease.
Okay, now that made me LOL.
It was Dengue. Of course these patients were fatigued, they were up all night for a month sweating their balls off.
I'm not an entomologist but I do know there is a barrier between gut, and saliva factories.
That said, a mozzy full of ebama blood, swatted on a cut or open wound could be a human vector. Maybe we can get Adam Savage to test it on his hit show Mythbuthters.
Has the CDC answered, or even taken , this question?
If the answer to mine is no, the answer to your's is yes.
The conspiracy theory of intentional western power causation of Ebola outbreak currently underway is evidently now mainstreaming in Liberia:
http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2014/09/12/liberias-largest-newspaper-eb...
*FRONT PAGE ARTICLE EXPOSES THE FACTS ABOUT THE EBOLA OUTBREAK IGNORED BY WESTERN MAINSTREAM MEDIA
*LIBERIAN SCIENTIST CALLS FOR LEGAL ACTION OVER THE ORCHESTRATED EBOLA OUTBREAK
*EXPOSURE COMES AS US AND UN SCALE UP THEIR EBOLA EFFORTS IN LIBERIA
h/t to http://durablefaith.wordpress.com/2014/10/02/liberias-largest-newspaper-... , thanks!
Yes, blame whitey!
Africans never had anything else going for them, so they might as well play the race card any time anything bad ever happens. Easier to play the perpetual victim than deal with your shortcomings and actually do something about your problems.
Now there's a white boy with a chip on his shoulder, just like summa dem darkies.
It's really not about their African color or anybody else's. The suggestion is about pervasive oligachical psychopathology, and the Libyan mainstream press is beginning to report on it.
The financial crisis must be getting much worse, they cant even afford good trolls anymore. Can I reach you at Zerozen@DISCOUNT-TROLLS.COM ?
Racebait blah blah
Give me a break
YW.
But the presence of active research facilities and the little thing called the patent are conspiracy fact...
This raises interesting questions about why US troops are actually over there...it is unprecedented to use military in this manner.
Do keep an eye on the actions and whereabouts of our principal players, e.g. is Wolfowitz still licking his comb? Is Obolama wearing two gloves to golf? Will George Clooney insist on using a condom and honeymooning in Antarctica? Will Biden walk around in a giant prophylactic because he's "too sexy for his shirt" and say it's all about family planning? Inquiring minds have GOT to know!
Just wait for CDC to issue free EBT Cards to silence the employee whistle blowers.
Another fraud caught in action. CDC, please bring back the bath salts zombie part 2 segment. We enjoy helping Hollyweird script writers create a movie that will flop.
This is COMPLETE, UNADULTERATED BS! No one is "clearing" airport security wearing one of those. PsyOps, undoubtedly!
Is he trying to saying that the government would lie to us? He must be one of those domestic terrorist that Eric Holder warned us about. I better call the see something say something hotline now.
We better light up the phone lines.
http://www.dhs.gov/if-you-see-something-say-something™
/sarc
So it seems to me that ebola is in the US and it has already started spreading. Those 80-100+ people who've come in contact with the confirmed case have no idea they did, and have since mingled with hundreds or thousands of others already, right?
So at this point it seems unstoppable, and you might as well just wait and see if you can survive. I mean, is there anything that a person can do to prevent themselves from being exposed? I see claims that it's not spread through the air, but it is spread through saliva. Well if someone coughs or sneezes, their saliva is in the air. Obviously bodily fluids can easily get into the food or water supply as well, so that's not safe either, right? Doesn't seem like there's a damn thing I can do to avoid it.
Food & water may be OK
since the virus (like other viruses) reportedly does not survive long outside the host (human body).
FALSE: since the virus (like other viruses) reportedly does not survive long outside the host (human body).
Proteins and lipoprteins do not just evaporate and become harmless.
Do not conflate your fears
about "Proteins and lipoprteins"
with Ebola virus transmission.
No animal disease virus is known to survive outside a host and be capable of transmission for longer than a week or two (norovirus), and all the others for much less time than that.
Say you have Ebola, are contagious and symptomatic.
All the people you MAY infect, don't automatically and instantaneously become contagious and symptomatic themselves.
So it can't spread from Ebola man to random man to OTHER random man in the space of 15 minutes, 1 day, etc.
The 24x7 whereabout of the Bill Gates family needs to be made public in the interest of national security.
yes, they want this for de-population. Don't believe the CDC!
Anyone else leery of the 3,000 military men and women that Zero committed to Africa coming home?
Such a disaster is so many ways with these liars in charge.
The CDC has become a purely political organization. Under the control of Barry and his Chicago politcal machine.
Except of course, for the guard accompanying Obama on the elevator......
HazMat wear will become all the rage just like bulletproof backpacks did a while back
Lies, incompetence, and government ALWAYS go together...people are still fooled?????
This guy from Ukraine said openly what is going on. He says that 90% of population should be finished
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=58d_1411836172
All he needs now is a Kurdistani "MAD MAX TANK" to pick him up at his home airport! LOL....we are doomed
Thats a cleanroom suit he is wearing, not a hazmat suit. The cleanroom garb protects the environment from you, not vice versa.
the noose gets tighter
BTW, I respect all Tyler ZH Posters. Thank you for following up on CDC.
We're still in MB. Unlike hanging out in my beautiful backyard, I post on the MB ocean. We really try to help the lemming, you'll figure it out in the long run,.No one can force a horse to drink water in a oasis of fraud, lies, and corrosion of trust.
One fellow made a comment earlier, what about other countries?
Europe, Russia, China, the rest of Asia, Australia and so on?
This thing has been around for months, yet you don't really see spreading elswhere as far as I know.
Maybe this 'panic' is all over speculation. Is it possible the CDC is right?
Maybe I am wrong, but if I am, I don't see it in the news.
It made top billing in the UK Telegraph today (for the first time - took the fuckers long enough):
"Anthony Banbury, chief of the UN's Ebola mission, says there is a chance the deadly virus could mutate to become infectious through the air."http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/ebola/11135883/Ebola-could-bec...
I know what you are saying, the point I was trying to make is how many people in the rest of the world are catching it or caught it?
All the people who had it in North America were in Africa.
I am not going to worry about it until 20 or more of the 100 they isolated catch it.
The paranoia is a little ridiculous.
If it is as bad as everyone claims, you would think swaths of population somewhere would be catching it, not only in Africa.
I am not saying it isn't a bad disease, but we went through this with AIDs and other stuff in the past.
Department of WAR is called Dept. of DEFENSE.....
Center for disease MANUFACTURE and SPREAD is called Center for Disease Control and Prevention
Now do you understand?
Newspeak...
Paging Frank Drebin outside the fireworks factory....
Completely O/T but to bring some guaranteed cheer to the majority at ZH:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/111366...
Uncle Warren takes a hit.
Great. C'mon in sucker, the waters fine!
Man Of The Year Mobley.
Mobilizing.
In order to get a high level job at the CDC you have to be a political CRONY. By definition, political cronies cannot have any integrity or work ethic since that could rock the boat. Anethema to bureaucracies. I mean, the head honchoes at CDC only expected biweekly paychecks - they never thought they'd have to actually do something or anything like that. Hence, totally unprepared in addition to being totally incompetent. They weren't placed in their position due to intelligence or other needed qualities. And anyone who rose up to a high level job in the agency needed to demonstrate the required degree of "nothingness" to get there.
If you don't believe me, just think about what happened to the imbedded SEC honorable person who got crucified for having the audacity to actually try to perform her job function. You know, the one who had to tape all that stuff about Goldman Sachs and the SEC regulators who seemed to think their actual job was to protect Goldman so they could get a job there later.
Wife just came home sick and puking. Hope she's pregnant :/
Nows your chance, get the f uouta there.
Wife just came home sick and puking. Hope she's got Ebola.
This site has become paranoia central. Ebola may or may not be as devastating as claimed, but there is not likely to have been a NWO conspiracy to reduce drastically global population. For one thing, no one is intelligent, malign and focused ehough to pull it off.
I knew someone years ago whose close family member worked in a position on a high level in a previous administration. I asked himif there were any evil geniuses there, and he replied:
Nobody's evil and there are no geniuses.
Hey pavel, please explain what is behind the USA getting a patent on the ebola virus.
http://www.google.com/patents/US20120251502
http://www.google.com/patents/CA2741523A1
Of course the word "evil" is a relative term...as the person you "knew"'s answer clearly attests. And your argument implies that only the lower spectrum of our society "conspires" to do anything, eh? Given that our prisons are full of people convicted of "conspiracy" related charges, the logical deduction must be that...that only average people conspire and that "elite" never do, because if we show any proof or argue that they have/are conspire(d or ing) (which is technically just to plan something with someone else in secret for your own benefit) than you are a "conspiracy theorist". Since those same elite design and lord over a legal system that's locked up millions over time time on "conspiracy" charges, aren't they doing the same thing you criticize people here for doing...creating a "conspiracy central" BUT ON A MUCH LARGER SCALE? We should let all those people out of prison now!!!...because obviously, conspiracies don't exist...OR the elite are somehow immune to all the same imperfections the rest of us are born with? You can't have it both ways.
And just because they aren't geniuses doesn't mean some of them don't conspire. It doesn't logically follow in any way. And you lost credibility as soon as you professed your friend's opinion to be true because (as an appeal to authority fallacy notes) they had a "close family member (who) worked on a high level in the previous administration." They would have no self-serving reasons for giving that answer at all. Wow...pretty convincing...we should all cower under the weight of that proof. In the same vein, I have many friends and family members in plenty of significant positions that have told me directly...THE EXACT OPPOSITE. They had nothing to gain by doing so...and in fact only had something to lose by doing so.
Evil people do seek to get and sometimes attain power in centralized power structures. Every society has a certain percentage of sociopaths and psychopaths in it. In the romaniticized world the government is both incompetant enough to get a pass on being able to "conspire" or be able to follow through on an "evil" plan or be self-serving while completely competant enough to have organized a system that weeds out any pathological personality that tries to attain power within it.
Amazing stuff...stuff of contradictions galore.
Denier! DENIER!!!
SETUP THE FIRING SQUAD!
Listen.
This guy is obviously coo-coo so I immediately discredit him.
Next "EBOLA" article!
At least when mad cow was the big worry we had to walk through shoe-sterilizing material to get through customs. Given that we seem to know so little about the basic biology of this virus, and given that it is a rapid-mutator and that it has the potential to become infectious by the airborne route, wouldn't it be prudent to err on the side of caution? Such as not letting any travelers with exposure to West Africa to enter the country without proof of a 21-day symptom-free quarantine? The incompetence of the Dallas hospital staff is hardly surprising, since as the price of health care in the US has skyrocketed, the care has become more slipshod. Ebola virus symptoms are very non-specific and mimic common viral syndromes, so anybody with these symptoms MUST be specifically questioned about direct or indirect exposure to West Africa. If they respond affirmatively, they should be assumed to be infected with Ebola. If this gets out of control in the US, there will be terrible fear and panic, and as TPTB know, it is at these junctures when the herd is most easy to manipulate. Let's not even think about people who have natural resistance to Ebola who could be invisible carriers or the lunacy of sending 3000 troops to West Africa who will all be potential carriers on their return home...
Such as not letting any travelers with exposure to West Africa to enter the country without proof of a 21-day symptom-free quarantine?
Dat be racis' an' all. You really expect TPTB to put people's safety ahead of political correctness?
This is biggest bullsheeet!
Lookup google obama ebola virus patent
Are you crazy? That would be treating SHEEPLE as animals!
Imagine a person walking around the grocery who just starting to show symptoms touching their runny nose and then feeling the fruit. Mmm did you remember to wash EVERYTHING you just bought at, well any place really...
Test drive or rent a car lately? What was on the wheel?
Heading into the Doctors office? Who was the last to turn that knob? Why were they there?
Listen Winston.
Knock it off. Would you? "THERE IS NO CRISIS"!
Bill Gates will whip us up a vaccine, there's nothing for your health like a mercury formaldehyde cocktail.
No there MUST be a crisis! And manufactured crises are the best kind.
Yah yah yah, the Frieden (head of the CDC) who may be the stupidest "educated" person on the planet says he can manage ebola. All well and good when you've got four cases and four top-level biosecurity isolation rooms, like in Atlanta. Meanwhile...in Liberia:"Each 100-bed Ebola treatment centre under construction needs 230 trained staff, including 12 medical experts, to operate, U.S. officials said. That would mean nearly 4,000 personnel for the Liberian facilities due to start opening in October, and it is unclear where they will come from."
No one is showing up to staff these places that Our Soldiers are building. In other words, the Liberians have self-preservation as their mandate, unlike Frieden who believes your welfare, your life, your children's lives belong to him to play with like fiddlesticks, based on his liberal stupidity. Does anyone think that the 3000 soldiers who are being based in LIberia to "train" those Liberians (who are not showing up) won't be placed in these centers because, after all, we've just got to "help" those who won't help themselves. Kill our own to save theirs? I think not.
What, the CDC lying? Rubbish. Next they'll try to persuade us that the Federal Reserve Board can't be believed.