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What Civilian Casualties? To Barack Obama, Women And Children In Syria And Iraq Are A Subhuman Species

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While one can't help but snicker when the administration of a Nobel Peace Prize winner has launched at least 7 offensive wars, mosty against Muslim countries with virtually none obtaining prior approval from Congress, until now Obama at least showed the sense to realize that maintaining proper "made for propaganda media" optics matters, even if his underlying actions were the very definition of hypocrisy. And then something snapped. As reported by Yahoo News, the White House has acknowledged for the first time that strict standards President Obama imposed last year to prevent civilian deaths from U.S. drone strikes will not apply to U.S. military operations in Syria and Iraq.

Now, we showed last weekend that Syrian "rebels", those people the US is supposedly helping, are furious at US bombing of their own people, but we wonder just how they will feel when they realize that according to the most powerful representative of the "free world" they are actually, well, subhuman and not worthy of the same civil rights as people in every other part of the globe (bombed by US drones).

According to Yahoo News, a White House statement confirmed the looser policy came in response to questions about reports that as many as a dozen civilians, including women and young children, were killed when a Tomahawk missile struck the village of Kafr Daryan in Syria's Idlib province on the morning of Sept. 23.

it has a "looser policy standards" when it comes to preventing  civilian deaths from U.S. drone strikes in U.S. military operations in Syria and Iraq. 

came in response to questions about reports that as many as a dozen civilians, including women and young children, were killed when a Tomahawk missile struck the village of Kafr Daryan in Syria's Idlib province on the morning of Sept. 23.

And if being equated with monkeys wasn't enough of an insult, the US also used its masterpiece fabrication, the "Khorasans" as the justification to do to Syrians what last year's false flag war campaign accused Syria's Assad of doing.

So this is what the US government is not telling you:

The village has been described by Syrian rebel commanders as a reported stronghold of the al-Qaida-linked Nusra Front where U.S officials believed members of the so-called Khorasan group were plotting attacks against international aircraft.

 

But at a briefing for members and staffers of the House Foreign Affairs Committee late last week, Syrian rebel commanders described women and children being hauled from the rubble after an errant cruise missile destroyed a home for displaced civilians. Images of badly injured children also appeared on YouTube, helping to fuel anti-U.S. protests in a number of Syrian villages last week.

 

“They were carrying bodies out of the rubble. … I saw seven or eight ambulances coming out of there,” said Abu Abdo Salabman, a political member of one of the Free Syria Army factions, who attended the briefing for Foreign Affairs Committee members and staff. “We believe this was a big mistake.”

And this is what US "assistance" looks like:

But the bottom line is this: Caitlin Hayden, a spokesperson for the National Security Council, said that a much-publicized White House policy that President Obama announced last year barring U.S. drone strikes unless there is a “near certainty” there will be no civilian casualties — "the highest standard we can meet," he said at the time — does not cover the current U.S. airstrikes in Syria and Iraq.

The “near certainty” standard was intended to apply “only when we take direct action ‘outside areas of active hostilities,’ as we noted at the time,” Hayden said in an email. “That description — outside areas of active hostilities — simply does not fit what we are seeing on the ground in Iraq and Syria right now.”

 

Hayden added that U.S. military operations against the Islamic State (also known as ISIS or ISIL) in Syria, "like all U.S. military operations, are being conducted consistently with the laws of armed conflict, proportionality and distinction."

 

The laws of armed conflict prohibit the deliberate targeting of civilian areas and require armed forces to take precautions to prevent inadvertent civilian deaths as much as possible.

 

But one former Obama administration official said the new White House statement raises questions about how the U.S. intends to proceed in the conflict in Syria and Iraq, and under what legal authorities.

Wait, someone actually wondered under what legal authority the Obama administration is killing innocent people? How dare they: don't they know Obama has a Nobel peace prize, so none of his actions are subject to any scrutiny: surely the president himself is his own best moral censor.

But putting the bullshit aside, the bottom line here is quite simple: in order to help Qatar traverse Syria with its own Gazprom-bypassing natgas pipeline to Europe, and wipe out the same ISIS it created, and which has caused so many headaches for the Saudis, which in exchange for getting the US to bomb ISIS agreed to dump crude, split up OPEC once again, send the price of oil plunging and cause a Russian budget crisis... Obama not only has zero qualms to kill innocent women and children, but in doing so he has made it clear that Iraq and Syria's woman and children are not even worth of being called human.

In fact, as one other charismatic dictator several decades ago claimed, they are "subhuman" and thus exempt from any innocent civilian deaths policy.

 

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Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:14 | 5287365 holdbuysell
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When will these criminals be convicted of war crimes?

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:19 | 5287384 Skateboarder
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Never, as long as the supply chains are alive. The first major supply chain break changes everything (for better or worse is up for toss).

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:30 | 5287437 NoDebt
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Yeah, but Obama entered this war "reluctantly" (that word was used specifically and simultaneously in well over 100 newscasts on various networks when he announced the commencement of air strikes in the non-war against non-Muslim ISIS).

Since he was "reluctant" he gets a pass on everything that happens as a result.  No deaths account to his side of the ledger, no matter how hideous.

You want to know who gets the most people killed for no damned reason?  Look no further than Obama, the Prince of Peace.  Sure, thousands (millions) die due to his actions (or inactions), but it's never his fault.  He's as pure as the driven snow.  Because he's "reluctant".

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:36 | 5287455 TheSecondLaw
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It's like: I want you to know that I didn't want to rape you, but you've left me no other choice.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:40 | 5287465 NoDebt
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Exactly.  Always someone else's fault.

 

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:06 | 5287522 Lore
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The psychopaths were desperate for all these invasions and occupations to prop up their fascist empire. Their system is falling apart, and the only way they know to prop it up is to start committing genocide, which is exactly what this is: "strict standards...to prevent civilian deaths from U.S. drone strikes will not apply."  How is the sane world supposed to deal with such people?  You can't negotiate with them, because they have no honour or conscience.  So what do you do about them?  How far is the world expected to bend over before somebody puts these human garbage in their place?

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:27 | 5287596 0b1knob
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To ISIS Jews, Christians and Shiites are a subhuman species fit only to have their throats slashed.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but they make a good war.  And what goes around comes around.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 00:07 | 5287687 The Doofus
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Look.  I believe Obama is a complete disaster.  I just voted for him because of whitey guilt.  Nevertheless, he tried to end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.  These Muslims won't listen to reason.  So now women and children are gonna die.  It's not Obama's fault.  Blame the militants.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 00:50 | 5287770 Lore
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There is no polite way to put this: your facts are fucked, and you're thinking like a sheep. Turn off the TV, set aside the indoctrination, do some research (start with the Project for a New American Century), and think for yourself. 

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 01:28 | 5287827 Grimnir
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I don't think you realize who you're talking to. This guy cares for nothing but pimping his multiple shitty blocks with multiple usernames on this site. His uninformed ramblings are merely a pretext to link to his garbage. He's as much of a cancer to this site as the bots telling you how they made thousands working from their basement.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 06:28 | 5288037 negative rates
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Come on people, you have to know by now that negative talk about the elite is not acceptable, they have done so much for you in their eyes that they now have a right to suppress any negative talk by,..... simply walking out the room.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 08:55 | 5288144 GetZeeGold
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It's not Obama's fault.

 

Oh you poor misguided little bitch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TuLBa-rgBk

 

 

Member for 3 weeks 3 days....this ain't HuffPo chief.
Sat, 10/04/2014 - 10:04 | 5288254 Calmyourself
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GZG, pay attention, he is a blog slut pushing his crap under multiple usernames..

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 01:48 | 5287842 Freddie
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You do know that one of the earliest countries or areas that had Christianty is Syria.  You do know that 15% of the Syrian population are Christian and the See Eye Aye and their ISIS/ISil-real/NUSRA-eal creation has been murdering innocent Christians and Muslims for a gas pipeline/

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 06:40 | 5288045 moregoldplease
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Well your admission just confirmed your handle. "our of whitey guilt?" What a weakling! Believe something and stand up for it.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 11:34 | 5288462 JR
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@ I just voted for him because of whitey guilt. 

“So now women and children are gonna die.” -- Doofus

And who is going to kill them?

Well, we are, of course, we’re the Superpower. We are the jet fighters and the Tomahawk missiles. We are the triggermen. And these “barbarians” as Boehner calls them and “extremists” as Denninger calls them, are going to shoot each other regardless and when they  “hit one of our people,” then “we’re gonna kill 'em all.”

In Iraq that “all” included hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings that meant us no harm but they were slaughtered all the same.

In the end, when all their “enemies” are dead, what kind of world would the Boehners and the Denningers and the Obamas and the Netanyahus provide for us? I recall one of the co-warriors for Gen. Curtis LeMay, Gen. Thomas Power, remarking during the cold war standoff with the Russians should there be a nuclear war: “Restraint? Why are you so concerned with saving their lives? The whole idea is to kill the bastards. At the end of the war if there are two Americans and one Russian left alive, we win!

And frankly, that’s not the kind of world I want to live in.

Here’s Karl Denninger’s response to Boehner’s “airstrikes are not enough…we (Americans) have no choice...somebody's boots have to be on the ground…"

Karl Denninger :

“At the root of the problem is that you have a group of extremists, a significant part of the Muslim religion, that are really a political force and they enforce what they want through violence. People that live and die by violence only understand one language and that is violence.

“So.. what are going to do here? At the end of the day, the right thing for us to have done.. 50 years ago, 40 years ago, 30 years ago, 20 years ago, 10 years and today… is to say, ‘You know what? You guys want to shoot each other go right ahead. The minute you hit one of our people or come onto our soil we’re going to kill you all…’

“They understand one language. Gunfire!”

Thanks , Tyler, for the way you covered this story. It was outstanding.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 23:12 | 5287897 All Risk No Reward
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>>To Debt Money Monopolists Jews, Christians and Shiites are a subhuman species fit only to have their throats slashed.<<

There, fixed that for ya.

Whoops!  "Jews" should have been deleted leaving...

To Debt Money Monopolists, Christians and Shiites are a subhuman species fit only to have their throats slashed.

The vast majority of Jewish folks are victims of the Debt Money Monopolists, just as the the vast majority of non-Jewish people are victims of these criminals.

There is a reason that 500k Jews hit the streets in Israel to protest their Debt Money Monopoly vassal government a couple years back.

Use the best language possible - or else you miscommunicate that which is real and expose yourself as lacking the brain power to improve your word usage.

 

 

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:30 | 5287600 Richard Chesler
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Never expected any better from a bankster-cock-sucking monkey.

 

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 04:05 | 5287926 JamesBond
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Nobel Debris Prize

 

 

 

 

 

 

jb

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:44 | 5287623 Anusocracy
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Don't blame Obama or Bush or any other killer clowns in government. The problem is the 99% who are government lovers. They are the enablers, they give them the power.

If instead 99% of the population were anarchists, none of this would be happening. Mankind has hundreds of thousands of years invested in developing his savagery towards his fellow man - invariably to be channeled through government.

It is not possible for him to behave humanly if government exists.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:55 | 5287650 disabledvet
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"What's your plan for Victory Mr Anarchist dude?"

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 07:27 | 5288079 Beowulf55
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simple, quit feeding the beast.  Cut of its funds and it will go away.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 08:02 | 5288094 Charming Anarchist
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Borrow from your family, friends and neighbors --- if you must. 

Do not borrow from the banks or from anybody you do not know, for that matter. 

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 09:05 | 5288156 GetZeeGold
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After 3000 years they don't need your money. Unless you're holding prime ME real estate land....I don't think you have anything they need.

 

Got anything else?

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 11:57 | 5288513 JR
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Trillions for the Bankers and debts for the People is financing a financial web of money-control over the sovereign nations of the world -- all because of a piece of paper that creates for the bankers something out of nothing in the true sense of the word. All because of the Fed...

The U.N. General Assembly Speech They Don’t Want You To See. Argentina President Cristina Fernandez

By United Nations

Global Research, October 03, 2014

Argentina President Cristina Fernandez, speaking to the U.N. General Assembly, exposes the debt vultures who enslave entire nations, the constantly changing definition of a terrorist, and the need for peace and self-determination for all nations. ‘In times of economic vultures and war falcons, we need more doves of peace’.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-n-general-assembly-speech-they-dont-want-you-to-see/5406050

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 14:56 | 5288885 N2OJoe
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There is but one thing politicians fear and it's not being voted out of office.

It's being dragged out of their bed in the middle of the night and beaten to death by an angry mob of the great unwashed "subjects" who are sick of their oppression.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 10:53 | 5288363 blindman
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they create "funds" out of thin air,
can the thin air be cut off or made so
thin that funds can not be created from
it?
.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 11:19 | 5288426 pods
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Actually you create the funds when you sign the promissory note. That is the moment it is created.

So basically we do this to ourselves.

pods

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 15:08 | 5288496 blindman
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we liquefy ourselves and then
hand over the straw to lesser
men for the drinking.
it is not the signing of the note
but the drafting of the note,
there lies the power, the "authority" to
make it binding(whatever that means and it means
a lot, it means control or significant influence
of the workings of the minds of men(the bigger subject)).

.
The Rothschilds

"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependant on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class." — Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" — Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild
.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/Federal%20Reserve...
.
Alex McMurray "Jesus Always Gets His Man" 7-27-2013 Live at Fantasy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1kUpwoq6fM

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:05 | 5287525 Harbanger
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All the War protests have been postponed until after the elections. 

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:54 | 5287500 Buckaroo Banzai
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"...mosty against Muslim countries"

WRONG. Mostly against secular Arab governments. What we are doing is systematically wiping out all secular middle eastern governments and replacing them with Islamic lunatics.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:56 | 5287511 Zhuge Liang
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Iran is the ultimate target.  It is a theocracy.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:04 | 5287524 The Blank Stare
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I'm so disgusted with my country I'm starting to think the "La-Z-Boy" is a conspiracy.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 00:31 | 5287732 SilverIsKing
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An up arrow is not enough.

+ 1,000,000

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:13 | 5287555 Buckaroo Banzai
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Iran has been the "ultimate target" since 1979. And yet, somehow we always seem to find some other country to invade.

Did it ever occur to you that your attention is getting deliberately misdirected?

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:29 | 5287592 Zhuge Liang
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No, they cant take  iran yet.  Still cant.  But allies go first.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 01:00 | 5287790 The Blank Stare
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Once bitten twice shy

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 01:51 | 5287847 Freddie
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Iran would not be a pushover.  Syria really impresses me.  The evil scum need to leave Syria alone.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 10:54 | 5288366 blindman
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against countries that question the sanctity
of the petro dollar.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 06:24 | 5288034 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Psychopathy 101: Blame the victim.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:33 | 5287446 nmewn
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I'm sure these "looser policy standards" will come as a complete shock to the promoters of King Obama but to the vast majority of us, its just another in a long list of confirmations.

Everything he says has an expiration date, sometimes seconds after he says it ;-)

 

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 08:24 | 5288113 Nexus789
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Who is going to put them on trial?  No one from the exceptional and exceptional nation. 

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 10:01 | 5288249 Calmyourself
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Skater, exactly want to change the world examine supply lines, pros look at logistics...

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:46 | 5287481 junction
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The Chief Judge of any war crimes tribunal would be Jay Bybee, who provided the legal justification for torture working for Bush and is now a judge on the Ninth Circuit (Circus) Court of Appeals working out of Las Vegas.  Bush recognized a fellow Nazi disciple when he saw one. 

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 02:04 | 5287861 Son of Loki
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I was under the impression that Gonzalez wrote many of those 'opinions' for Bush justifying torture. Guess I'm wrong.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 10:36 | 5288330 swmnguy
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You're not wrong, just incomplete.  It's like "Murder on the Orient Express."  They all have their fingerprints on the knife.  No one individual can be held responsible.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:49 | 5287489 WhackoWarner
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Obama?

 

Murder?

 

One and the same.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 02:26 | 5287881 Bohm Squad
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"No animal shall kill another animal.......................................without cause."

Clearly, there must have been cause...

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:55 | 5287504 seabiscuit
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No disrespect but perhaps it is no time soon as your question contains the primary assumption of "they".  They ain't coming.       Perhaps this is better stated with subject-predicate agreement. When will they convict these criminals of war crimes?

 

I observe that currently there are more 'us' than 'them', and as a friend of mine says, "we could drown them in our urine". As Lupe Fiasco says, if you don't become an actor you'll never be a factor.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:20 | 5287575 JamesBond
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You can't prosecute for war crimes when congress hasn't declared we are at war.  Nice, huh?

 

jb

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 03:19 | 5287907 ThirdWorldDude
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Oh poor you, like a declaration of war by congress or any other establishment institution would guarantee concern for human rights and Geneva conventions.

How many criminals were tried for war crimes in Vietnam?

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 00:35 | 5287740 rubiconsolutions
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It can be said with “near certainty” that this is the most corrupt, amoral government on the face of the earth. The good news is that just last week I talked one of my sons friends out of enlisting in the military. It was relatively simple, I showed him photos of landmine victims I took in SE Asia in 2000 when I was over there. The ones of kids with birth defects from Agent Orange sealed the deal.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 09:12 | 5288174 GetZeeGold
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Worse than Bush.....same team though.

 

Very few can grasp that fact.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 10:32 | 5288314 awakeRewe
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You should get the peace prize.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 00:47 | 5287772 McCormick No. 9
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On that fearful day, Obama will stand before the Great White Throne. Out of a nimbus of ineffable glory, a voice will command-

"Barry! You shall give an account of your actions! What did you accomplish that made the world a better place?"

And Barry shall be speechless.

Then shall come the angels, who shall lift Barry up and cast him into a lake of fire.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 08:35 | 5288124 actionjacksonbrownie
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That's a nice little fairy tail you got goin' there.

 

 

At least the easter bunny brings chocolate...

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 12:10 | 5288537 JR
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The Easter bunny brings chocolates? Could you introduce me to your easter bunny? Now that's truly a fairy "tail."

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 02:48 | 5287896 williambanzai7
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Sat, 10/04/2014 - 08:44 | 5288136 general ambivalent
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Can anyone tell me if banzai has done an image connecting the two ISIS groups? Or perhaps the ISAF with ISIS? Here's a couple links

The Brussels ISIS (International Security Information Service)

http://isis-europe.eu/about-isis-europe/

A pretty good image of the ISAF symbol:

http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://augengeradeaus...

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 09:04 | 5288165 GetZeeGold
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Where's the Starbucks cup? How's he gonna salute without it?

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 08:57 | 5288151 Reaper
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His defense will be that he's mentally incompetent and was only a tool used by those who promoted him. His school records will be his proof.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 08:13 | 5288107 Ebanga Planti
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When the speech of President Cristina Fernadez will be seriously considered

http://pneumatikeconomist.wordpress.com/2014/10/04/a-must-watch-speech-f...

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 10:36 | 5288326 Laddie
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"When will these criminals be convicted of war crimes?"

Same time Our "Brave Little Ally" Israel is:

http://www.ussliberty.org/index2.html

Also vital is reading James Ennes' book "Assault on the Liberty"

He was officer on the bridge when the attack started.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 15:07 | 5288922 KnuckleDragger-X
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Killing civilians are a real part of war, I advise you to read the histories of people like Tammerlane and Genghis Khan, "he made a desert and called it peace". Your pretending there is a thing called 'civilized' war and there isn't. We now do politically correct wars and we keep fighting the same war over and over again because we've forgotten the whole idea of war is to break the enemies will...by any means necessary. Yes, it's evil and just a form of legalized murder on a very large scale but you need to remember the rules and history is written by the winner. I expect to see a lot of down votes because reality is a very ugly thing.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:27 | 5287374 RafterManFMJ
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If they didn't want to become shredded, smoking piles of meat, they shoulda been born in Kenya to a Commie slut, like I was! - Obama the Benevolent, Peace Prize Winner and Slayer of the Ebola, Peace be Unto His Name.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:18 | 5287377 holdbuysell
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What's the response of the US populace of this happening in the US as a result of an Russian offensive? /rhetorical

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:24 | 5287404 world_debt_slave
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mirror, mirror on the wall

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:24 | 5287405 world_debt_slave
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zh reset error

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:25 | 5287411 gwar5
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War on women

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 08:28 | 5288119 Miss Expectations
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and children.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:27 | 5287413 Trucker Glock
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"The village has been described by Syrian rebel commanders as a reported stronghold of the al-Qaida-linked Nusra Front"

I hope that is just a statement and not what .gov uses for intel to decide to send a missle.

"Yeah, the bad guys are over there.  I promise."

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:26 | 5287423 talisman
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I am losing track---are al Nusra good guys or bad guys this week??

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:54 | 5287499 Ms. Erable
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Are they the Judean People's Front, the People's Front of Judea, the Judean Popular Front, or the Popular Front of Judea this week?

Whatever happened to the Popular Front?

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 00:27 | 5287722 Kirk2NCC1701
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Popular Front? Fucking splitters!

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:37 | 5287458 cartonero
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"Those shameless fuckers are having a WEDDING over there!"

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:54 | 5287647 Normalcy Bias
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Perhaps they're operating using a "Mercy Killing" justification.

Put the poor bastard out of his misery before it even starts! /s

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 02:13 | 5287869 QQQBall
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Truck Glock - Read "See No Evil" - CIA has been turned into a political arm.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:25 | 5287414 talisman
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Only a dozen or so subhuman women and children killed by the US air strike???....Israel, our "best ally" in the middle east, thinks nothing of genocidally murdering thousands of  (subhuman)  Palestinian civilians, with the full blessing and support of USAIPAC, as well as having USAIPAC gladly supplying all the weapons and money Israel asks for to do their killing.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:53 | 5287498 Zhuge Liang
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it never ceases to amaze me how easily the american public is duped into believing that Israel is an ally, rather than a master...

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 00:00 | 5287663 Skateboarder
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It was the most perfect set-up of all time, ever.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 17:09 | 5289262 The Other Cheek
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Yeah, but I cannot help wonder sometimes: who is being set-up, the american people or the jew people?

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:26 | 5287422 Space Animatoltipap
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Obama is a megalomane clown, like the ceo or visitor of horror company McDonalds. McDonalds, the very degraded company that has many millions of defenselessly cows killed yearly. 

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 04:44 | 5287953 DaemonMe
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Don't worry, they are quickly replacing beef in their burgers with sawdust. It is for the cows, see.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 09:25 | 5288190 shovelhead
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Oh, those poor defenseless delicious cows.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:27 | 5287424 Normalcy Bias
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Is there any evidence that Barry isn't an Aggressive Sociopath?

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:35 | 5287452 Trucker Glock
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People know to not beat him at golf.  He's feared around the clubhouse.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 01:44 | 5287836 Space Animatoltipap
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Hussein Obama is actually a clone of sex slave Tiger Woods. The only diffrences are his golf results are fully staged and he's a degraded homosexual. Oh yeah, he is also president of the US, or whatever is left of it.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:17 | 5287564 nmewn
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Since Occidental College?

No.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 09:48 | 5288218 GetZeeGold
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It's sealed....we have no evidence of that.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:34 | 5287438 SillySalesmanQu...
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Alfred Nobel invented dynamite, but our current Prez has perfected dropping dynamite on unsuspecting innocents by drones and F-18's...I hope he sleeps well at night for the boogeyman is going to visit soon.

Payback is a bitch and what goes around eventually comes around...sooner or later.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:12 | 5287538 Lore
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Judging by the state of that rubble - a fairly sturdy building turned into a pile of rocks - I would be concerned about radiological contamination: it looks like some psychopath dropped a Bunker Buster, just like they did in Iraq.  What heroism. Doesn't it make you want to wave a little flag and sing about the Rocket's Red Glare?

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:33 | 5287447 Son of Captain Nemo
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What else can one say when you are looking at a President of the United States, and not just any President mind you but a "Constitutional legal professional" that has done the opposite of everything he's promised while in office violating just about every oath and made it to a second term as a "bonus"?

Perhaps by virtue of the fact that he was reelected a second time it should be the American people on trial and not President Obama?

Now if we could just find another superpower that could do to the United States what it has been doing to Iraq and Syria???...  Oh wait a minute...

Already got that one covered! 

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:41 | 5287472 Cangaroo.TNT
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Perhaps by virtue of the fact that he was reelected a second time it should be the American people on trial and not President Obama?

 

One if the (many/various) things I do is create t-shirts.  My latest shows 2 check boxes.  One has the republican elephant and says "CRAZY".  The other has the democrat donkey and says "STUPID".  Above it says "Choose Wisely."  If dipshit Romney had been elected we'd be bombing Iran right about now.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:59 | 5287513 Son of Captain Nemo
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If dipshit Romney had been elected we'd be bombing Iran right about now.

STUPID's pretty much the same as CRAZY only difference is he's thinkin about it incrementally before he attempts the big "fireworks display" at the end complete with the band playing the last hypnotic stars and stripes forever we'll ever hear!

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 00:51 | 5287778 McCormick No. 9
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Thanks for reminding me. It could ALWAYS be worse. Romney would have been worse. I hate to say it, but it's true. So, in two years, we get the republican crazy aggressive sociopath FED/NWO fuck-puppet, who will kill moar and blow up shit moar. Yippee.

IT WILL GET WORSE.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 01:11 | 5287809 cheech_wizard
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It could have been far worse than Romney. It could have been McCain... What is it about Arizona that the populace there keeps putting him back into office?

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:25 | 5287586 Bossman1967
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sad thing is over 5 0 percent of those voted for him twice what an educated people. hope and change my ass. EBOLAAA

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:36 | 5287454 Duc888
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"While one can't help but snicker when the administration of a Nobel Peace Prize winner has launched at least 7 offensive wars, mosty against Muslim countries with virtually none obtaining prior approval from Congress,"

 

Amazes me people actually voted for this jagoff.  Not that Mittens wouldn't have done the same fucking thing.

 

Hope and Change indeed.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 09:14 | 5288179 GetZeeGold
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Becoming institutionalized is a hell of a thing.....it does things to a man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsiFanovOSI

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:50 | 5287491 Son of Captain Nemo
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What a difference a year makes in Turkey along with another "reelected empty suit" Erdogan!...

If this report is true it looks like the Turkish people are welcoming Al-Qaeda with open arms this time.  The people in Ankara and Istanbul have reconciled with their leader and are looking more like Americans every day!

Wonder where the UN Security Council is on these developments?... Answering that question -Now that's funny!

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 00:51 | 5287560 Lore
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The United Nations is nothing but a haven and a front for thumbsucking ass kissers, parasites and scam artists.  Nothing good ever comes out of the UN.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 23:04 | 5290007 pgroup
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Thumbsucking would be an improvement over what they usually suck. Then again, maybe not if you're one of the sucked people who got traded for a thumb.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 22:52 | 5287496 earnyermoney
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Now that's a War on Women and Chilren.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:12 | 5287550 Harbanger
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From the same people who pretend to be concerned about women and children.  To a globalist all humans are just pawns.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:23 | 5287584 nmewn
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It really is that isn't it?

On any given day it can be the women & children of one segment or race but never the women & children of THE middle class in total.

Divide & conquer.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:01 | 5287515 Playtime's Over
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Your right about the bombs landing in Iran....maybe.  But get back with us when Iran announces thier first itty bitty bomb.  And remember they are certifiable batshit crazy thinking the 12th imam will come out of a well just in time for the nutballs to start WWW3.  Kaboom.  

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:06 | 5287528 joego1
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I don't know who Uncle Tom's master is these days but they certainly own this reneger in chief.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:18 | 5287567 Buckaroo Banzai
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"Renegger"...I see what you did there.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:22 | 5287579 AdvancingTime
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Just over a year ago I wrote an article advocating the only and most likely solution for Syria would be to break the country into two parts.  If Assad remains in power those who have suffered and been displaced will never forgive him and live under his rule. A change in ruling factions is also not a viable solution in that it would probably unleash a wave of killings, and reprisals. Remember the Shiite-related Alawites rightly fear an Al Qaeda led triumph as the worst possible outcome, they would make the mass killing of Alawites their first priority.

The secular leaders of the Syrian rebels, clustered in the exile group known as the Syrian National Council, also must worry about the extremist threat they themselves would face if the Assad government fell. It all appeared a massively ugly mess and little has changed. More on why I finally came to this solution and why it still remains the best option in the article below.

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2013/09/syria-must-be-split-in-two.html

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:50 | 5287640 cherry picker
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Doesn't matter who you are, invading a sovereign state and inflicting casualties is murder, no different than walking across the street because your enemy is taking a walk with his family, killing him and his family plus a few bystanders.

The only time deadly force is justifiable is in self defense or defense of another in an attack.  Dropping bombs and sending missiles is not defending someone under attack.  As far as I know, oil refineries, houses and weddings are not the kind of stuff that attacks people.

There is such a thing as Karma, and we see it now with the paranoia evident in the great USA, scared of every what if which may occur and defending themselves from the monster in the closet.  I don't think Americans of yesteryear were like that.  Maybe it is collective guilt, I don't know.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 00:06 | 5287684 Vuke
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Thanks.  Another voice in the wilderness.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 09:39 | 5288207 shovelhead
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Who says there is such a thing as Karma?

Some smelly old hippie with a funny accent?

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 10:20 | 5288288 yellowsub
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As one of the Nazi leaders have said, make the people believe they are under attack and the people will support the war.  What do you think the Support the Troops campaign is about?  Now they have terrorism threats to make it real now.

Nothing's really changed from then to now the people continue to fall for the same trick countless of times since the dawn of civilization.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:54 | 5287649 dsty
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apparently ISIS is within one mile of Damascus

Makes me wonder about the prophecy in Isaiah 17:1 concerning the permanent destruction of Damascus

Only a nuke could do that, Damascus the most ancient perpetual city until that happens

Looks like that may happen if these crazies actualy take it.

Who would nuke them?

US?

Israel?

Russia?

Don't rule out Russia, they are getting quite ticked off.

Might want to teach the US a lesson re economic terrorism

 

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:55 | 5287652 q99x2
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And, if he does it there you better believe he will have no qualms about doing it here. That's a fact Jack. Psychopaths see no red lines.

If the Mid Easterners want to stop it they need to arrest Loyd Blankfein, Bandar and others and then prosecute them. If they convince the people in control of the money that it is a bad idea to act as demonic scum then the murders of innocents will stop. 

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 23:59 | 5287659 Duffy
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...so in other words, we've become more and more like Israel?

 

What a surprise - no one who closely follows foreign affairs said...

 

And it is NOT about Qatari pipelines.  Never was - not for the American Deep State.


http://mycatbirdseat.com/2014/07/the-unfolding-of-yinons-zionist-plan-fo...

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 00:42 | 5287761 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Humanitarian bombing is an 'american' tradition. Of course, all evidenced as signs of progress of humanity. At least, it helps to keep pretending that 'americans' are interested in humanity well being.

More than that, they are constantly redefining humanity, which is their right by virtue of exceptionalism. And when the rest of humanity does not comply, they are either forced into 'american' freedom or degraded to subhuman or non human beings status.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 09:54 | 5288230 shovelhead
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All this whining is giving me a headache.

You do-gooders have to come to terms with "acceptable losses" and stop thinking of non-combatants as "innocent bystanders".

"If you wanted your Peace Prize President, you got your Peace Prize President."

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 00:44 | 5287764 Fuku Ben
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I'm looking forward to the next international war crimes and crimes against humanity tribunal when the globalists are defeated and are forced to face their victims and families.

They probably don't have that in the script. No worries I'm sure we can find plenty of well qualified stand-ins from around the world that want to take on lead roles, wear costumes and pass judgement.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 00:47 | 5287771 ToNYC
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 the Sanitary Bombadier creates Unitary Terror.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 01:01 | 5287792 Flybyknight
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Obama chose the job. He should man up and stand by the principles that got him elected. Too bad if the CIA assasinates him, as it probably would. My prediction is things will get a whole lot worse, that is pointlessly destructive of other sovereign states, once the republicans gain control of the senate as well as congress. I cannot see much reason to be optimistic regarding the US vs the rest of the world.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 01:31 | 5287820 steelrules
Sat, 10/04/2014 - 09:26 | 5288191 dsty
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there are good points to this first vid

but it is skewed like much of the posts here at ZH

ISIS has been assisted by US but do not rule out Russian involvement, that goes way back to 1960 era when they realized they could use Muslims to stir up trouble, Iran removal of Shaw first example.

ISIS is Muslim, not Jew.

People from all over the world volunteer to go and help them because they realy do behead people, that is not fake

Islam teaches to behead the infidels, non believers in Islam including moderate modern Muslims

This gives them perfect oportunity to practice their religion just like Muhammad teaches via his spirit guide Alah

Unfortunately this site is filled with people who don't understand that this is really Islam 101.

 So you fill this site with links filled with misinformation making you think this is fake and that the Jews are responsible for causing Fundimental Muslims to practice their faith as it is origianaly taught

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 01:50 | 5287845 Lazane
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When the Zionist Jew minions are in control at the Whitehouse War room, slaughter of Goy and Muslim is not a problem, more bread and circuses to keep the ruse alive

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 02:37 | 5287884 beaglebog
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Last night I dreamed that ISIS changed tack.

 

Its leaders announced a cease to all operations ... that it would seek no more territory, nor to spread its caliphate beyond its existing borders.  That ISIS would seek the peaceful path of free trade with other nations.

 

Of course there was a condition to be met ....... they would cease and desist IF the West would hand over Obama, Blair, Bush, Powell et for trial at an impartial, international court. Trial for their lives, of course, as alleged war criminals.

 

What's not to like?

 

These men have done no wrong; so they have nothing to fear. Right?

 

 

 

 

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 02:44 | 5287893 JamesH
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obama is a muslim expanding jihad. killing civilians to muslims will be like kicking a hornets nest.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 03:52 | 5287922 kchrisc
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That's what they get for letting the CIA and the Mossad execute 9/11 and 7/7 in their name.

Then they have the gall to go to school and have weddings.

Next thing you know, they'll rise up and try to stop Greater Israel from taking their land.

            /s

An American, not US subject.

 

"I guess I can't travel to the UK now and I just made my FEMA camp reservation."

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 05:23 | 5287970 danpos
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A lot of the criticism is fair and warranted, but to say that Obama is defining people as subhuman and equating them with monkeys goes too far.  Up until recently people were saying he was too sensitive and touchy-feely, a community organizer who couldn't pull the trigger.  And now he's some unfeeling warmongerer.  Our foreign actions are a mess, and the world is a mess, and our government may be a mess.  However, I don't agree that Obama views any particular group as subhuman or as monkeys.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 05:55 | 5288003 laomei
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Time for Syria to strike back, illegal invasion of soverign airspace and murdering civilians.  Oh wait, it's only the US, and apparently they have to right to murder anyone anywhere without consequence... gee, I wonder where all these so-called "terrorists" come from?

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 07:04 | 5288059 sidiji
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so what? they deserve it.  US should've gunned down every single family member of Osama bin Laden instead of letting them go off scott free to continue shopping in rodeo drive.  fk off Tyler you pussy, like you give a shit

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 08:46 | 5288141 windywoo
Sat, 10/04/2014 - 08:10 | 5288105 skbull44
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Any talk about avoiding civilian casualties by the-powers-that-be is theatrics, plain and simple. 9/11 should have cemented that fact in everyone's head.

 

http://olduvai.ca

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 08:46 | 5288140 G. A. Stewart
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If you want the long story, see my December 2009 Web update;

http://theageofdesolation.com/Updates-january-2010.html

or my book, Nostradamus and the Age of Desolation:

Excerpt follows:

Nostradamus Quatrain X-71
The earth and air will freeze a great [jet] stream,
When they will come to venerate Thursday [Thursday, December 10, 2009]:
He who is not at all is not so nice [peaceful],
From the four parts [of the world] they will come to honor him.

Now I will admit that I have some major differences with the commercially successful
Nostradamus commentators and the third line of Quatrain X-71.

Nostradamus Quatrain X-71 (Third Line)
Ce qui sera jamais ne feut si beau

Only Erika Cheetham is the closest to the way I interpret it.

Erika Cheetham
He who will come will never be as fair,

John Hogue
That which will be, never was [it] so fair,

Edgar Leoni
That which will be never was it so fair,

They key phrase descriptors are Jamais and si beau. Jamais means never, not at all. Si
Beau means so good, so nice. Ce qui means whom, which, or by inflection, he.

Sera means be or exist. Ne feut means was not or is not.

If you put these together you get: That which is not at all, is not so nice or He who is not at all is not so nice.

In keeping with the idea that Obama was being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, maybe Nostradamus’ intent was to say one who is not so peaceful.

And for the trolls and chumps, a very special page.

http://theageofdesolation.com/Doomsday/DoomsdayforDummies-Main.php

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 08:59 | 5288157 loregnum
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I like how innocent men being killed is no biggie to people. Women and children means it is an outrage but if they were all grown men then hey, who cares. Sad the way western soicety has made men into being "sub human" and expendable. 

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 09:31 | 5288193 dsty
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I would say that sub human refers to those who go around slaughtering woman and children and beheading for sport

from a FORMER MUSLIM TERRORIST

Lots of lovely beheading pictures here

Deal with reality, not BS web links

ISIS Beheads Another Sympathetic Leftist with Poor Judgment

 

http://shoebat.com/

 

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 11:24 | 5288301 tony wilson
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dsty have a coffee a nice piece of gefeltafish and  apple cake

and watch this nice and and relaxing

Israeli Truck Bombs On 9/11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDqNLrOd_SY

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 12:12 | 5288542 dsty
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toni, thanks for helping islam

knucklehead polack

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 10:52 | 5288360 Emergency Ward
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I would say Obama does it for sport when a hooked drive on the golf course bothers him more than 25 dead civilians from a botched drone attack.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 09:01 | 5288161 sidiji
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religious fundamentalists of all stripes need to be stepped on until they die off or join the modern world.  that ak47 wasnt made by allah but by modern science and soviet engineering...seems to work pretty damn well for something made by atheists. if these head chopping barbarian assholes dont wise up and get with the program they are fair game for the imperial boot. step hard.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 09:00 | 5288162 sidiji
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religious fundamentalists of all stripes need to be stepped on until they die off or join the modern world.  that ak47 wasnt made by allah but by modern science and soviet engineering...seems to work pretty damn well for something made by atheists. if these head chopping barbarian assholes dont wise up and get with the program they are fair game for the imperial boot. step hard.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 09:55 | 5288237 Son of Captain Nemo
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Speaking of inhuman... 

I would go so far as to say at this point that the Israeli puppet master and it's "puppet" are showing a wee bit too much stress at the problems they've created for themselves in Joey's speeches this week!

In the Talmudic tradition of teacher and pupil. When all else fails always be ready to blame everyone else for the catastrophe you created even when you know it will make things worse!

 

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 12:21 | 5288565 JR
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It’s getting more and more obvious, Nemo, when you look at a chart board and we’re at war with a whole tangle of countries and, always, at the center of the chart board is the state of Israel.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 09:58 | 5288238 Calmyourself
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Everyone and everything are dispensable to leftist progs.  After all they are fighting for utopia as whispered in their ear by Apollyon, you, yours and all are chattel to be disposed of in the pursuit.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 10:07 | 5288264 roadhazard
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What is the ratio of America killing civilians compared to ISIS, Free Syrian Army, Syrian Army, Iraq Army, etc, etc etc. Cry me a river.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 11:17 | 5288415 Emergency Ward
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2:1, 3:1, 50:1, 1,000:1, 10,000:1?  Ask Madeleine Albright.  She was a US Official and she has some answers.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 10:20 | 5288290 tony wilson
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7 wars mainly on muslim countries can it be true?

i do not udder stand many of you folks say barry is a muslim.

why then would he kill his own people if he was a muusel lim.

an arab slow holocaust with a future laced with depleted uranium cancers.

why would he be the fuck buddy whore of the tallmudicks in tel aviv if he was

a muslim.

maybe the whore is not a muslim but a zionist jew

init

 

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 10:31 | 5288316 TeethVillage88s
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Wondered if you had seen this Youtube Channel and if you heard of Jay Weidner?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8MsJrF0GoA&index=75&list=UUXkBbDD--DOuh...

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 13:26 | 5288705 Infinite QE
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Always the man to see things clearly. Must not be too much flouride and GMO in your diet.

Sat, 10/04/2014 - 14:18 | 5288798 SocialismIsCancer
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Ahhh, the palestinian islamic cult worshiper masquerading as "Tony Wilson" has returned, singing the same tune, jews are responsible for everything, conspiracies everywhere!

Can't you sheep-fucking ragheads get over the fact that the jews beat your worthless asses every time, even when hugely outnumbered and attacked on all sides by surprise?

Face it, you islamic cult worshipers are disgustingly mediocre defectives, good only at suicide bombings, torturing women, and beheading men with their arms tied behind their backs.

I have no predisposition for israel, the israelis or jews, but I would cheer them on if they wiped out all of you living turd islamic cult worshipers.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!