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Why The Chinese Admire "Putin The Great"
As The Wall Street Journal's Jeremy Page writes, In the recommended-reading section of Beijing's Wangfujing bookstore, staff members have no doubt which foreign leader customers are most interested in: President Vladimir Putin, or "Putin the Great" as some Chinese call him.
Books on Mr. Putin have been flying off shelves since the crisis in Ukraine began, far outselling those on other world leaders, sales staff say. One book, "Putin Biography: He is Born for Russia," made the list of top 10 nonfiction best sellers at the Beijing News newspaper in September.
China's fascination with Mr. Putin is more than literary, marking a shift in the post-Cold War order and in Chinese politics. After decades of mutual suspicion—and one short border conflict—Beijing and Moscow are drawing closer as they simultaneously challenge the U.S.-led security architecture that has prevailed since the Soviet collapse, diplomats and analysts say.
The former rivals for leadership of the Communist world also increasingly share a brand of anti-Western nationalism that could color President Xi Jinping's view of the pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong. Beijing accuses Western governments of stirring unrest there, much as Mr. Putin blamed the West for the pro-democracy protests in Kiev that began late last year.
Russia has begun portraying the Hong Kong protests, too, as U.S.-inspired. Russian state-controlled television channels this week claimed that Hong Kong protest leaders had received American training.
Support for Putin is extremely widespread in China...
The Pew Research Center says China is one of the few countries where popular support for Russia has risen since Moscow's confrontation with the West over Ukraine—rising to 66% in July from 47% a year earlier.
A poll by In Touch Today, an online news service run by China's Tencent Holdings Ltd., put Mr. Putin's approval rating at 92% after Russia annexed Crimea in March.
"Putin and Xi Jinping are quite similar," says Yu Bin, an expert on China-Russia relations at Wittenberg University in Ohio. The leaders are from the same generation—they are both 61—and both want to re-establish their countries as world powers and challenge Western dominance following periods of perceived national humiliation.
"Putin's personality is impressive—as a man, as a leader. Chinese people find that attractive. He defends Russia's interests," says Zhao Huasheng, an expert on China-Russia relations at Shanghai's Fudan University. "Russia and China can learn a lot from each other."
It is partly realpolitik. Russia needs China's market and capital, especially as Western sanctions over Ukraine bite, the analysts say, while Beijing sees Moscow as a source of diplomatic support and vital energy resources.
The countries concluded a long-awaited deal in May for Russia to supply $400 billion of gas to China over 30 years. They have forged agreements to build a railway bridge over their common border and an ice-free port in Russia's far east. They have also unveiled plans to set up ground stations on each other's land for their satellite global-positioning navigation systems.
Also driving the realignment is rapport between Mr. Putin and Mr. Xi, whose leadership increasingly resembles his Russian counterpart's charismatic nationalist authoritarianism.
Various Chinese authors have written extensive best-sellers on the Russian President:
Liu Xiaohu, the 28-year-old author of another biography, "Putin's Iron Fist," which came out this year, says many young Chinese feel frustrated by what they see as their government's failure to respond to past foreign provocations, such as the U.S. bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade in 1999.
"It's not that Chinese people instinctively want or need a strong leader: It's that the country needs one at this period of time," he says.
Zheng Wenyang, the 30-year-old author of "He is Born for Russia," says the biography, which came out in 2012, has sold far more copies than his earlier works on Barack Obama, Margaret Thatcher and Nelson Mandela.
He says Mr. Putin's popularity, while inflated by glowing reports in Chinese state media, feeds off a deeply held conviction in Chinese society: "If a leader is weak and allows himself to be bullied, then people won't respect him."
Russia's pushback against Western-leaning governments in Georgia in 2008 and more recently Ukraine has been popular in China. Some say Beijing should draw lessons from those experiences as it jostles for control over waters in the East and South China seas with the U.S., Japan, Philippines and Vietnam.
"Putin is a bold and decisive leader of a great power, who's good at achieving victory in a dangerous situation," said Maj. Gen. Wang Haiyun, a former military attaché to Moscow, in an interview with the Chinese website of the Global Times newspaper.
"These features are worthy of our praise and learning. Russia has been a great world power for hundreds of years and a superpower in the bi-polar order: It's much more skilled than us at playing great power games."
Finally, not everyone is excited about the newly found kinship between the two nations...
Some Chinese experts argue that China risks damaging its relationships with the U.S. and the European Union, still its biggest trading partners. Moscow's and Beijing's interests aren't always aligned.
New tensions could arise over China's expanding influence in Central Asian lands that once were part of the Soviet Union, and over Russian arms sales to India and Vietnam, neighbors of China that have boundary disputes with it.
Still, some analysts say that by staying out of the way in Ukraine, Beijing has ensured that Moscow will remain neutral over China's flaring territorial disputes in Asia. And for the moment, both sides have an interest in playing up the merits of their governance models.
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The bottom line - if you're going to be isolated from the world, you would do a lot worse than have China as your friend... and both Moscow and Washington know that only too well.
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I down voted you because I don't like you.
I didn't down~vote you because you weren't worth the effort.
I aready told you what to do with that hockey stick.
~Happy Gilmore~
My impression is that people on ZH aren't accustomed to being told what to think, so, no. No irony there. Just annoyance.
Why do you care so much anyway?
You the new sheriff?
is it important to you?
All politicians are not equally worthless.
Some are more worthless than others.
Putin has never been about politics.
His Administration gets things done, not talk.
15 Years of Putin Rule
http://ozziesaffa.blogspot.com/2014/06/15-years-of-putin-rule-in-one-infograph.html
I would trade Obama, Kerry and Biden and the entire U.S. Congress for a bad case of the clap. Don't put Putin on the same level as these perverted, crooked bought and sold cretins. Putin is a real statesman - someone who would turn this country around overnight and lead us away from the enslavement of the crooked oligarchs who control this country. The first thing he would do is nationalize the un"free" press as he did in Russia. Then he would imprison the wall Street swindlers (or run them off the israel), clean up our pathetic education system, which spouts out politically correct garbage instead of education, get rid of or drastically reform the pathetic welfare system that ensalves and impoverishes minorities, end unrestricted legal and illegal immigration from third world countires , go back to supporting traditional family and respect for religious freedom and faith.
terrorist talk
/s
Except he wouldnt cos usa has less than 10% of the natural resources russia has, without those resources he would be just another 'Dear Leader'
Slaves love masters.
Well said.
Now you're wising up (1) syllable at a time.
I thoroughly enjoy you painting me as a democrat to discredit my points about Putin. I've been called worse, but not much.
Take Putin's nuts out of your mouth.
It's obvious you have the mental capacity of the common "house fly".
You're a bloviating child that's looking for some "crumb of reason" to latch on to.
I've been painting you as an uneducated idiot, and how you classify that designation, is entirely up to YOU .
Perhaps you're labeling yourself without knowing it? I take no pleasure in pointing out your idiotic hypocrisies.
When your dealing with ZERO, anything with direction is "less than zero".
Grow up Child, and grow a set of nuts!
Give me one hypocrisy or fallacy I have posted, please.
And, yet again, take Putin's nuts out of your mouth.
You remind me of the unattended house wife that grows contemptuous of her husband and goes across the street to the Russian neighbor. She thinks he's all that, but ends up in the hospital with a stitched up asshole and an empty purse. Ask your wife/girlfriend/boyfriend (whichever is more insulting) for reference, as I am sure they have a similar story.
Putin or Obama, what's the difference? Either way, you're fucked.
You remind me of the kid that gets dared to stick his tongue to the flagpole in the middle of winter. Everyone runs away laughing except for his big Sister or Mommy.
Do yourself a favor and "comprehend the comments" before you reply to them. For the umteenth time, NO ONE is loving on Putin! Now go fetch me an egg role with extra wasabi Bitch.
Yen, you've been here a while, are you seriously saying you have not seen the love for putin sprayed all over ZH since the ukrain thing?
Cant all be putinbots.....
Look, it's called respect.
I* know it's hard for most Americans to understand the concept, because for the past 50 years there has not been an American president that deserves or earned any respect.
Reggie, you should quit while you're winning, but please come back again and give us all another laugh.
Putin projects unity and strength. The US does not...it projects weakness and division. The division is sought by both parties for political gain and wealth. Greed makes us weak...and as an electorate, we have allowed it to happen. We were warned about division....
""Let us trust God, and our better judgment to set us right hereafter. United we stand, divided we fall. Let us not split into factions which must destroy that union upon which our existence hangs." - Patrick Henry
We have allowed the banksters and their politician dogs ruin us.... Now we are laughed at globally, thus countries have no problem taking our money and slaving us to debt.
I am sure there is a huge waiting list of girls who want to suck Xi's cock in China.
This day and age, I am sure the list of boys want'n to suck Xi's cock is lengthy as well.
All politians are self-serving liars. I prefer a Direct Democracy.
Putin is admired because he is the only leader who can poke in the eye of the West.
There are numerous countries where people can't forget humilition by gringos. But even China can't say a word against gringos because it's so economically dependent on the USA.
Go to Mexico and ask about gringos who have stolen California and Texas.
So Obama is a gringo?
No, Obama is the Great Jester.
yeah, but for the gringos, CA and TX would be like the rest of Mexico.... and Mexicans would be sneaking into Oregon and Louisiana to escape a shitty Latin American dystopia...
Not only is the Chinese people!
Come to Brazil and talk to educated people.
Everyone will say that the Americans are bastards!
Because of them spent sixteen year dictatorship.
I believe that the Chileans and Argentines who also experienced it has the same idea as.
Venezuelans forget it!
You are fucked if things get ugly.
No use having both arms against a nationalist population.
Shove your tail between your legs, apologize for the shit they did in the past and is collected.
It's the least we can do because the back will be great ass, insane.
You Americans do not know the shit they did in recent years.
It will not do to say "I'm nice".
It's the old ditato:
Who takes punch in the face does not forget.
: - /
The revolutionary generation of the decade de1960 was dwarfed, took power in the 1980s thinking neoconservationism, the sale of state enterprises was the output.
The new generation knows that's not how it works.
The new generation knows that unfortunately there will always be a bribe and, where there is no government that bribery is because it is serving the Banksters.
The new generation knows that the distribution of income and necessary and that investing in insane weaponry is not the path to prosperity.
This generation also knows that if called to fight, will.
:-)
Few Americans speak to migrate to South America.
Know the shit that his government did in the past.
Know that here will be challenged daily.
The option is New Zealand, Australia and Canada.
Even in these countries the thing will be interesting to Americans.
NSA included in the package conversations.
If you slip up, the only place where an American can go will be the Mc Murdo base in Antarctica.
hehe.
In the rest of the world, will not be welcome.
People who only thinks about War which guerreim among themselves.
hehe.
I know these are harsh words, but I believe that much of the world thinks so.
:-)
Because I admire Brazilian Putin?
It's simple!
He is holding its nuclear bombs, only loosen as you have no other way.
For me, should have soltato.
For my part not admit taking so many punches in the face without giving a kick in the opponent's bag.
hehe.
There's NO business like SHOW business like NO business I KNOWWWWWW!!!!'
Everybody loves Putin. Obamas tranny submarine forces even have posters up throughout their vessels.
Heus nauta.....XXX
Putin isn't perfect, not even close, but he's one of the few powers resisting the plans of the US/Israel/UK. You either think that axis needs resisting, or you're a fucking idiot.
Sorry.
Who did you say was perfect?
Well, right or wrong, good or bad, smart or dumb, China's people and leaders love Putin. Because he's courageous, decisive, nationalistic and he easily out-strategizes the fat, dumb and stupid West.
Those are qualities that the Chinese people like, and want for their own leaders, because they (China's people) are very nationalistic too. They want great things for their country, and they want the U.S. to be humiliated.
Bottom line: You want your quarterback of your favorite football team to kick ass and make the opponents look like morons. You want 'your team' to rule. Most of Russia's and China's people feel like that about their nations as they long for victory over the U.S. So Russia-China is really becoming a true axis - very bad news for the U.S.
Its not a Russia-China Axis, its a CHINA-russia axis.
As a life long anarchist, I can say I love Putin because he is the little guy standing up to the big bully...just when the Permanent Revolution thought they had the world wrapped up along came Putin. FUCK world socialism. When Russia has garrisoned the globe with 1000 military bases and enslaved the world with their debt money I will gladly oppose her. In the mean time she is leading the resistance.
So now I will don my favorite Putin T-shirt and head to the range with my favorite Kalashnikov to throw some lead down range in honor of Rodina and freedom.
Here is some good Putin porn....your NWO puppet vs the man who threw World Socialism out of his country....and for you clueless morons out there, Putin OPPOSES the oligarchs in Russia-
http://www.tomatobubble.com/putin_obama.html
Tomatobubble - great site, made me smile. The real man vs. the girly man
and just like that, the American Empire dies.
Russians and Chinese can have big love for anyone else, but when its each other, the US is subordinated in an especially important way.
Please don't get any crocodile tears on my new cashmere sweater.
That's the brain fart most people don't get. Russia and China don't want to take over the role that the US has taken apon itself. They want to end it. Not bombing people is better for business.
Killing a ruler is not the solution.
Historically, it is certain arrest and prosecute, then hanged or guillotined.
Please do not kill the guy shot him as JK!
hehe.
The Byzatines mercifully would cut off the nose of an emperor they had no use for.
It's amazing how shy and retiring an ex-emperor becomes after a Rhinectomy.
The Expression of , "to cut his nose to spite his face" has a begining after all.
They AVOIDED Western style Executions like (Hang drawn and Quartered or Gassed or Crucified or the other horrific executions Qadaffi style, for they avoided Future Animocity to today's level.
Theatre versus Amfitheatre in all its Glory, Pretend to kill to ACTUALL KILLING.
But definately showing Who is Boss.
That is one of the Levels of Civilisation that the West has NOT managed.
The mainly Greek speaking Byzantines certainly had a lot of State Repression down to a tee. Look Greece today. But out of that lot you may find unexpected results,
If I remember correctly, one of the emperors of Byzantium, who lost his nose and his throne, made a come back and resumed ruling for a few more years.
Like the character in the Salinger story, The Laughing Man, this emperor must have
Kind of Byzantine, no?
i'm rootin for putin to save me from the zionutz running my country since american youth seem way too happy about the winner of the biggest loser.
To avoid eventual military conflict between the West over new-found pride among leaders of Russia and China (and by extension the other BRICS), there are some very important skills and lessons needed on both sides.
In Russia and China they have to understand where the limits of 'nationalism' extend, to avoid becoming bullies (China) towards their neighbours and learn how to avoid crossing them as this will lead to overt fascism and eventual war with adversaries (The West).
In the West, we have to understand that the BRICS are changing fast and playing catch-up, and we no longer have a God-given right to dominate and control the rest of the world according to our whims using our utterly corrupt banking system. The days of the Anglo-American Empire are numbered. But it is clear that our leaders in Washington, Westminster, Paris and now Brussels do not yet understand this and are making a complete mess of foreign policy, which is still based upon post WWII thinking. Left unchecked, this attitude will also lead to war with adversaries (BRICS, notably Russia & China) because these countries have basically "had enough" of the American-led global economic system based upon the USD and corrupt institutions of power created by the West (UN, IMF, WB etc) for its own benefit.
Given recent events in the Ukraine, Iraq, Syria, Hong Kong and various Middle East sandpits where unrest has been funded, instigated and stirred up by Western capitals and The West's desire to carry out regime change in Iran to appease Israel, I am not hopeful that conflict can be avoided. Western leaders show little of the understandings and skills needed to avoid it.
And whatever our leaders may say, their foreign policy actions are absolutely not in the best interests of the people they purport to represent. Far from it.
Why always such a one-sided coverage, Tyler the Putin admirer?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-03/khodorkovsky-sees-1917-like-cri...
"Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the one-time oil tycoon who spent a decade in President Vladimir Putin’s prisons, said Russia is nearing an economic crisis that could fuel an uprising similar to the country’s 1917 revolution.
“I fear that Putin is going to bring the country to a crisis much more quickly than many would like,” Khodorkovsky, 51, said in an interview with Charlie Rose in New York. Russia could end up seeing “a repeat of 1917 when a person brings the country to an economic crisis, and we are certainly moving right in that direction.”
Deteriorating economic conditions may spark the sort of discontent that helped put an end to Russia’s Czarist autocracy a century ago, he said, referring to the turmoil that swept the Bolsheviks into power under Vladimir Lenin and led to the creation of the Soviet Union. Russia’s economy is teetering on the brink of recession as international sanctions linked to the conflict in Ukraine stunt growth."
Russia, just another corrupt dump about going to go broke due to it's shittiness.
Khodorkovsky's comments = wishful thinking??
After all, he is an enemy of Putin and would love to see him overthrown.
Khodorkovsky is a well known tool of the Rothchild interests and the USA / CFR
he is being promoted by the MSM as an authority of some kind by the WH and State Department - the reality is no one outside the USA is listening
Khodorkovsky was the richest man in Russia and wanted to bribe Russian senators, so they could vote for super-low taxes for his company.
Yukos was nationalized and 80% of its profits now go to providing well-beings of ordinary Russian citizens. The average salary in Russia has increased tenfold during Putin's presidency.
There are several questions about this article. The author of the book referenced is impossible to find ( though some say he is an employee of Central Party School, the International Institute for Strategic Studies (?) . The book was allegedly published by the Huazhong University of Science and Technology but they have no record of it ( and they do not publish anything but science, engineering manuals). The Wangfujing bookstore says they do not carry it. The few references I read that 'may' be this book (and the Putin iron fist phrase has been about for years in China) is an all out Putin lovefest, anti-west diatribe that should warm the hearts of the Putinettes on this website. However there are contrary views about the reactionary love of Mao (see Bo Xilai) is fueling this love of a strongman. Caveat emptor
And of course you have copious evidence to support your claims and allegations. Right?
Let's see some please.
I am not making any allegations. I am just pointing out that Liu Xiaohu is impossible to reference. (Why don't you try?). Also the book is apparently not for sale either by the publisher or at the Wangfujing bookstore (don't understand that). I have read some references (but not sure it is this book) but by its title on the Chinese blogs that give some excerpts that are clearly a Putin strongman 'ironfist' anti-west lovefest. There are other comments that indicate that this Putin idolisation is odd and calls up the Mao worship from years past and that the public needs the cult of leaders which is not what the reformers want.
I can give you links but you would find them useless unless you read Chinese. As I indicated it is all very odd. I expected to be able to buy the book as it 'seems' to be so popular according to this author from the WSJ.
it looks like the book is on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&fie...
Putin is a highly competent leader of a great nation. There is more leadership in one of Putin's hangnails than our entire dysfunctional government could ever even hope to muster.
Note to NSA: Please add +105 to my FEMA camp internment rating for this post. You may now return to your normal duties of looking at naked 12 year old children through their web cams while you masturbate in your cubicles.
I also know Putin is capable of doing some not so nice things if he feels the need. However, he has earned global respect though especially when contrasted to our megalomaniac Golfer in Chief whom all the morons/FSA in America voted for twice. The one who makes Reggie's pubic region tingle has paved the way for Putin to rise on the international stage.
Obama and his minions are a more like a colony of termites. Termites who are commanded by Banksters.
Man, you can tell tfj's hate Putin as he has been the only other world leader to figure out their scam and send their oligarchs packing.
They read the Putin book for drama they read the obammy book for comedy
Putin is the greatest american anti-hero ever. With all the anti-russia brainwashing of US population in the last 60 years they finally got the person for their propaganda in hollywood style.
Does this really work in the USA? What I can say seeing it in Europe, the TPTB shit on their heads in great style.
For those of you who are about to peruse these comments, please be aware that Reggie Dunlop is trying to manipulate this thread. You see Reggie doesn't understand the difference between Respect and "Affection". He doesn't understand why many commenters on this thread have respect for Putin's courage in standing up to the Western Hegemons. I think Reggie is typical of many (not all) of the American Exceptionalists that have a very real problem figuring out who the bad guys really are.
Putin, like Obama, is a friend of zionist israel. He is plaing the role he has been assigned - as international villain. His body language shows him to be insecure. Probably knows he can be eliminated anytime by mossad/cia.
Questions over who the hackers are and the approach of their attack concern government and industry officials. Also troubling is that about nine other financial institutions — a number that has not been previously reported — were also infiltrated by the same group of overseas hackers, according to people briefed on the matter. The hackers are thought to be operating from Russia and appear to have at least loose connections with officials of the Russian government, the people briefed on the matter said.
The above if to believed shows why Americans should love Putin. If true it suggests that the NWO, that has been attacking the United States of America and the rest of the world, killing millions in the Mid East and allowing ebola into the United States, is indeed not working with Putin through the IMF and WTO but in fact an enemy and Putin is going for the heart of the beast--the bankers.
It's hard not to admire a true Nationalist like Putin.
It's hard not to villainize a true Globalist like Obama.
I think Russia and China want to remain pure.
Obama wants to cook a stew no one is interested in eating.
Globalism as a culture or political movement will fail.
Corporate shareholders are the only beneficiaries.
The mob will decide this debate.
Like all bullies, America mistakes fear and loathing for respect.
Don't blame all Americans.
I come to these articles and read the commentary for comedy now. Kind of like the Sunday funnies in the newspaper.
I see two controlling world entities. The BIS and CFR. These supranational agencies decided to invest East as the West's ability to grow slowed down. So any individual political puppets are of little matter to me in how they will affect my life in regards to who is steering the bus.
Meanwhile the media groks "hate the east" memos for Westerners and "hate the west" memos for Easterners. It's interesting bread and circus games during a period of stagnation. Blame shifting is something every human relates to and near all participate in. Meanwhile, the big bullies are stealing your lunch money.
I believe the world has already been carved up into security zones based on China as world reserve currency. The IMF has already stated China is defacto world reserve currency and with that monetary shift also comes global policing responsibilities.
Russia and China are part of global governance of CFR and BIS. It's the same game as the last 50 years with the West becoming the bad guys (and bad guys deserved to get looted memos which means YOU the citizen) and nasty police state to keep everybody in line. Well if global governance is so wise, why cant they manage prosperity in both East and West simultaneously?
"The US is the sole blame for creating the post-WWII fucked up world we have...."
So, the US is responsible for Stalin annexing East Germany and other countries after WWII, Bob?
Stalin was not a Russian.
I guess this is what the weekend ZH crowd and the articles have become.
Later, people.
"... says many young Chinese feel frustrated by what they see as their government's failure to respond to past foreign provocations, such as the U.S. bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade in 1999."
What about Russia stealing about one third of their territory in the last 150 years?
Seems a bit more significant.
It's only about geopolitical tactics:
"It appears that the SCO formation in 2001 was another tactical win by the Sino-Russian block, against the - occupied with the war on terrorism - West, to be used against future plans by the global neoliberal dictatorship, which would probably include the dissolution of the vast Russian territory and the dangerous isolation of China by land and sea."
http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/09/cold-war-20-chinas-moves-to-a...
PUTIN'S IRON FIST VS OBAMA'S WEEPING VAGINA
Hey, don’t trash vaginas. They’re awesome!
Obama is a very unfortunate, castrated bio-robot and those who castrated him are child molesting inbreeds…and this is simply an undeniable, self-evident truth
"If de shit fit, never admit and don't ever submit."
Yep, the eye gouging Pravy Sektor and swoboda --
Lords of the pro-democracy protests.
Propaganda fresh from the sow-brained Victoria Nuland
You don't think the CIA still bears a grudge against the Hong Kong authorities for transiting Snowden to Moscow?
The Devastating Effects of Pollution in China (Part 1/2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4DtOhe2LfQ (13:57)
The Devastating Effects of Pollution in China (Part 2/2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d-Ky7Se-v8 (13:31)
I thought 'Obama the Cock Gobbler' books were flying off the shelves? Fucking MSNBC was wrong AGAIN.