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Sun Tzu And The Cost Of War
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Sun Tzu and the Cost of War
What if military strategy was timeless?
Sun Tzu was a Chinese military general, strategist and philosopher, and is credited to have written “The Art of War”, a seminal treatise on managing conflict and warfare. It is uncertain when he actually lived, but some traditional historians date his lifetime to 544–496 BC.
The Art of War discusses military strategy within the wider context of public administration, politics and planning. Organized in thirteen chapters, the text outlines theories of battle, but also advocates diplomacy and cultivating relationships with other nations as essential to the health of a state. For centuries, it has been regarded as the definite reading for strategists and warriors of all types.
Sun Tzu’s work remains highly influential to this day. An internet search with his name produces over 10 million hits; in recent years there have been several best-selling translations and books applying the strategies to different fields, including negotiation, leadership and business.
So influential in fact that certain authors claim China’s leaders follow a modern adaptation of his principles as they seek to transform their country into a world superpower in the 21 century. Exactly at a time when the Western Establishment seems to be very busy brushing them aside.
Sun Tzu in Action
Sun Tzu observed, analyzed and distilled what works and what doesn’t at war, and eventually developed an approach which transcended the battlefield. He emphasized the need to have a strategy planned well in advance of any campaign based on a detailed assessment of both adversaries’ strengths and weaknesses: “If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles.”
Open warfare should only be pursued as a last resort. In fact, Sun Tzu regarded winning without fighting as the pinnacle of military achievement. However, when there was no other choice, then the fighting should be as swift as possible: “There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.” That applies to the loser of course but also the victor, which is forced to expend substantial resources and in the end may not get much spoils to show for it, while becoming vulnerable himself to other attacks.
Sun Tzu also warned us against relying too much on technological superiority: “Even the finest sword plunged into salt water will eventually rust.” Such superiority may win battles but not necessarily the war, especially in the presence of asymmetric equalizers. And it is very costly.
His principles remain relevant to this day not only because they were organized during a time of substantial human conflict in an advanced civilization - they are also deeply rooted in natural law. Even the mighty lion chooses its prey carefully, aiming for the weakest of the bunch in the most economical way possible.
The Cost of War
Stephen Daggett, Specialist in Defense Policy and Budgets at the Congressional Research Service (considered to be the Congress’ think tank), authored a report in June 2010 outlining the cost of all the major wars the US has been involved in. His estimates, as well as a recent update on the cost of all the Post 9/11 wars by Professor Neta C. Crawford at Boston University, are presented in the following table:
Source: Congressional Research Service (June 2010), Boston University (June 2014).
(a) US$ billion, in constant 2011 dollars, except for Post 9/11 which is in current dollars.
(b) Union and Confederacy added together.
(c) Includes $1 trillion in future obligations for care of Veterans through 2054.
One important fact stands out from this table. Not only are the Post 9/11 entanglements the longest of any war the US has been involved in, they are also the most expensive – even more than World War II, when the US was fighting on two major fronts against heavily industrialized powers. Rather than achieving victory quickly as advocated by Sun Tzu, the US has been involved in very costly wars for well over a decade now.
When it comes to ensuring global security it can get lonely at the top. None of the traditional US allies have the military capabilities and even the ambition to project power at the same level. As an example, the US has 19 commissioned aircraft carriers, followed by France at #2 with only four. Russia and China only have one each.
These days US politicians generally endorse this militaristic approach to governing world affairs. This might be understandable as the geopolitical landscape has become incredibly complex and uncertain since 9/11. However, after years of waging war, conflict is now expanding as opposed to receding, particularly in the all-important Middle East where openly anti-West radical groups are conquering large territories. As such, a material US disentanglement over the foreseeable future looks increasingly less likely.
Sun Tzu had something to say about this: “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.” Seen in this light, has the Post 9/11 military strategy made the US a victorious warrior?
While all of this is taking place, the US’ ideological foes can afford the luxury of sitting back and employing a more measured approach: “To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.” Indeed, nothing breaks morale more than the prospect of never ending foreign wars.
Meanwhile, the debts keep piling up. The Pentagon’s continued ability to project power might become increasingly dependent not on its brave soldiers but on its creditors. Sun Tzu would agree.
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Time to get rid of ALL polititians.
And more to the point, it's because our wars are run by politicians rather than brilliant military minds. The MIC wants the conflict to drag out for as long as possible so they can rake in as much money as they can, just like the BANKS.
It's all rigged and completely staged. Are we starting to figure out what the massive amounts of plastic coffins the feds have openly stockpiled are for?
http://mrconservative.com/2014/01/30940-obama-quietly-orders-one-billion...
http://www.naturalnews.com/046946_Ebola_outbreak_vaccines_patents.html#ixzz3DnSf0HbJ
The the puppet government can't allow the mid-term elections to go through unmolested.
During Sun Tzu era, there was no military industrial complex, hence war was fought to steal resources, destroy enemies and defend against aggression.
The USSA is beholden to the Military Industrial Complex. This means we will NEVER a war, but engage in endless conflicts until the USSA is squeezed dry like a lemon.
"The US ideological foes"? America's ideological foes are liberty loving people everywhere.
'loyalty does not mean blind obedience to a person or state, but INCLUDES the DUTY of concientous PROTEST....sun tzu...the art of war...
#bugged_out
Klayman files for deportation of Barack Obama
http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/klayman-files-for-deportation-of-barack-obama/
NO the IRaq WAR wasn't for OIL.
You see OIL prices went UP after taking over Iraq.
The real reason is for subsidizing military industrial complex with taxes.
The is the goal of all wars now.
But elites who have lost nearly all support from the populace onyl have militray guns to rely on for protection to keep the game going.
Lose military support, revolution at your door.
No Gods…. No Masters
strannick,
America's ideological foes are "People that can think for themselves" instead in a mindset of 'Totalitarian Institutions,' such as we see in US education and religion.
“The various modes of worship which prevailed in the Roman world were all considered by the people as equally true; by the philosopher as equally false; and by the magistrate as equally useful.” — Edward Gibbon, The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
Great quote from a great book. I'd put the Gospels forth as the most radical revolutionary tracts going.
strannick,
Gospels forth as the most radical revolutionary tracts going?
Interesting....., very interesting!
Speaking of coffins, what about those 3,000 troops Barry sent to Africa, the Ebola area?
I wonder how many 'embedded reporters' accompanied them?
Not a peep in the news about them.
I think that's odd.
I think they're really going for it this time.
The Corporate Fascist Entity can stretch this Ebola thing out indefinitely.
Some might argue they won.
The struggle is not over. Paraphrasing another Chinese legend, Lao Tzu, those who thought they could conquer the whole earth, should have known from the beginning, they will fail.
Zhuge Liang has also come back to witness their historic defeat, now imminent.
4000 Troops to Liberia, the beginning of investment, We can now escalate either to protect our men or retaliate for harm done to our men there in Liberia.
Of course International Relations being what they are we can exchange students, train soldiers or workers, bribe officials, create cohort units with mixed nationality soldiers, send in the contractors, set up IMF/WB Loans for Engineering, Water, power, and Drilling.
Still working to get them infected so that they can bring them back to the US and follow thru on their real assignments.
Global Research has a different take than what we're thinking or is it "Never let a good crisis go to waste."
Obama’s “War on Ebola” or War for Oil?http://www.globalresearch.ca/obamas-war-on-ebola-or-war-for-oil-sending-...
The "coffins" are yet another viral Internet lie.
http://members.jacksonville.com/reason/fact-check/2014-02-04/story/fact-...
Google is easy to use... use it, instead of just believing every conspiracy theory you hear about.
...just like the BANKS.
Clink. The government is the banks.
Might be off topic but it is being reported that Kim Jung Un might be out of power/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFT52G-EhD0&list=UU4SH8rh0OjYV3zwqnIfqNb...
What now? I'm currently in South Korea, and this is news to me...
That does not bode well. What happens to every country that loses a leader? Power vacuums...
I hear a loud sucking sound up North...
Replace all politicians with open source software.
Sadly how we fight changed with LBJ and to quote him " we're not there to win a war, we're there to teach those little yellow bastards a lesson".
Has the US won a War since 1776 ???
LOL, good one.
1. Know thyself
2. Know thy enemy
Now figure out how well US politicians and generals adhere to these two basics in The Art Of War.
Kirk out
When they say "know", are they applying that word in the Biblical sense?
Victory creates less profit for arms manufacturers than protracted indecisive conflict.
Graduated response maximizes profit.
Utter contempt for humanity is the root of the gross abuse of the Death Cult over the Living. All form of .gov are an imposition of a jurisdiction between the flesh and blood living soul, and the creator. Just say NO.
The designers and executioners of the 'system' have been tuning the deception of 'freedom' for centuries, whilst the entire time constructing a fractional reserve fiat prison farm, where YOU are the cow. Whether for milk or beef is still to play out, nonetheless to be treated and harvested as a 'beast'.
When we accept, the Vampire Tribes feed for free, on our blood, sweat and soul. Stimulating reading/viewing here:
Your LEGAL name, and the story of who 'owns' you (until you withdraw consent):
http://kateofgaia.wordpress.com/
http://nonamesheremate.wordpress.com/
By The 'Consent of the Governed' - Steve Bates film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMjPbbM5fPU&feature=youtu.be
Facts and Lies of the US 'democratic constitutional republic'
http://worldtruth.tv/40-outrageous-facts-most-people-dont-know/
Century of Enslavement: The History of The Federal Reserve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IJeemTQ7Vk
Possibly... According to Debbie Was-a-man Schultz, the War on Women is too close to call at this time.
A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague.
Our traitors are the Neocons who are constantly pushing the nation to war:
Jewish writers confirm that the Iraq War was a war for Israel, not AmericaThe war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history.
In the course of the past year, a new belief has emerged in the town (Washington): the belief in war against Iraq. That ardent faith was disseminated by a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish, almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another and are convinced that political ideas are a major driving force of history.
http://nowarforisrael.com/jewish-writers-confirm-that-the-iraq-war-was-a...
“Watergate” Jewish Journalist Blames “Jewish Neo-cons” for Iraq WarFamous Jewish journalist Carl Bernstein—one of those responsible for unearthing the Nixon Watergate Scandal in 1973—has stated on public television that Jewish neo-cons were behind the Iraq war.
http://nowarforisrael.com/watergate-jewish-journalist-blames-jewish-neo-...
Sorry... It's worse than that. Bernstein is just a water boy way down the line. To solve this problem you need to destroy the City of London.
The City of London is owned and controlled by the Rothschild family.
Now i understand Hitler's comments and actions when it comes to wiping out an entire race at all costs.
Bernstein didn't unearth the Watergate scandal - he helped create it. IOW, the Watergate scandal was a media creation engineered to get Nixon.
Just wanted to be clear on that.
Lecture from EKM1:
The terms CREDITOR and POWER do NOT get along.
The one with power will kill and expropriate the creditors.
The writer should read some history.
War has costs and.....benefits.
Benefits = Access to natural resources like arable land, water, energy, commodities.
End of Lecture
Apparently George Soros didn't get your memo (lecture).
Neither did the creditors of Argentina.
Maybe you need their memo
Allow me to increase the level of accuracy:
Power = Willingness to use lethal force
If no willingness to use force, then even the terms 'creditor' and 'debtor' become irrelevant.
Debtor consumes, creditor never gets paid, hence system collapse which leads to...................war.
my ex-girlfriend had a lot of power over me, and she never used force, not even when I wanted her to
I dunno how she does it, must have be an alien in disguise who can kill me with her mind or something
'gina power
mind over matter.' Gina over mind
what happens when the creditors use the printing press to buy the power?
great question
we are about to find out
ww3 is a currency war
We are beyond currency war at this point. Currency war is just a toy gun right now
Missiles and air force are being used, real war going on
war
Only real payment in goods and services are acceptable.
Credit accepts to be paid in money for a certain period, but when the credit see that the debtor never pays, then supplies of goods and services halt, which is currently under way
Hence, wars. Hence, ukraine, iraq etc
I don't know what's sadder, the "care of Veterans" part or the "2054" part.
(c) Includes $1 trillion in future obligations for care of Veterans through 2054.
Jack Ma would state, ‘those chose’.
Others have a much higher estimate for just the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan:
US Wars in Afghanistan, Iraq to Cost $6 trillionThe decade-long American wars in Afghanistan and Iraq would end up costing as much as $6 trillion, the equivalent of $75,000 for every American household, calculates the prestigious Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government.
Remember, when President George Bush’s National Economic Council Director, Lawrence Lindsey, had told the country’s largest newspaper “The Wall Street Journal” that the war would cost between $100 billion and $200 billion, he had found himself under intense fire from his colleagues in the administration who claimed that this was a gross overestimation.
Consequently, Lawrence Lindsey was forced to resign. It is also imperative to recall that the Bush administration had claimed at the very outset that the Iraq war would finance itself out of Iraqi oil revenues, but Washington DC had instead ended up borrowing some $2 trillion to finance the two wars, the bulk of it from foreign lenders.
According to the Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government 2013 report, this accounted for roughly 20 per cent of the total amount added to the US national debt between 2001 and 2012.
According to the report, the US “has already paid $260 billion in interest on the war debt,” and future interest payments would amount to trillions of dollars. This Harvard University report has also been carried on its website by the Centre for Research on Globalisation, which is a widely-quoted Montreal-based independent research and media organisation.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-wars-in-afghanistan-iraq-to-cost-6-trill...Sorry for OT, but this made me lol this morning http://bgr.com/2014/10/04/comcast-vs-municipal-fiber/
Who gains?
I love Chinese philosophy. Its so simple and straightforward. None of this airy-fairy, handwaving, existential Western BS.
Secret to long life?
Walk like a pigeon.
Sit like a turtle.
Sleep like a dog.
Well, for one thing, they have no use for a "Guy in the sky" - unless his tech can be used to conquer your enemies.
And they also don't subscribe to "My Guy-in-the-sky" can beat yours.
Thus, they have no need for an army of parasitic middle-men, who claim to speak for some Guy in the sky, whose sightings are less frequent than space ships and their crew.
p.s. Note that the only "sins" you can make in their worldviews, are against your own dignity, against your family, clan, town, country and race -- by favoring the interests and benefits of Outsiders.
That's why the Chinese won't take crap from Globalist Usurpers, and their theology of Usury and Enslavement.
Long Tzu Short war.
Today's wars are not wars in the historic sense of previous wars. The reason is that world destruction (nuclear winter) is now possible whereas before it was not. Also bio-warfare offers the possibity of total human annihilation. So, the president of Washington D.C. is under the impression that nothing on this planet can stop the NWO. He said as much last week. Apparently today's wars must take a different path than all prior wars but when push comes to shove the military industrial complex has some trick up its sleeve that would give the TOTUS enough arrogance to make such a statement shortly after a knife weilding maniac ran through his house. The globalists will likely use that endgame trick as it nears the end of financial support from its creditors.
Arrest Loyd Blankfein.
"Arrest" him? Yeah, like that'll make a difference, Kool-Aid goy.
Round 'em all up, and ship them to Ebolistan or to ISIS. Via El Al.
But always remember, the only factories we have left in the U.S make guns, ammo, and war vehicles. These factories have been humming along at full capacity for 12 years. Mission Accomplished! Who else wants some of this?
Lets put it bluntly the u.s. can not win its fabricated war on terror because the goal is vague and the enemy consists of an entire population embedded in innocent communities around the globe. The only way for the u.s. to win this bs war is to violate the Geneva convention and use more harsh weaponry, which would not fly well with the rest of the world when they see canisters of agent orange flying every which way.
In order for the govt to have the leaway/blind eye turned from the whole world we would have to absorb an attack bigger than 9/11 again... and thats what obama is waiting for, thats why the borders are wide open and no one is guarding the white house, thats why ebola is allowed to spread by the cdc
The first 'big one' ushered in global security checks, screening, total loss of privacy, etc. The next one is meant for global martial law, loss of freedom to travel, transact (without permission from above), etc.
It's so plainly laid out, you have to be alseep not to see it.
Agent orange was a defoliant, not a weapon.
I was in Vietnam last year, and plants still aren't growing the way in a they should in a semi tropical climate almost 50 years later.
Many Vietnemese, many American soldiers died from Agent Orange.
If that is not a description of a weapon and I don't know what is.
That was from the TCDD, a contaminant in the agent orange, intentionally created by a communist plot within monsanto.
and millions of children deformed
Iraq and other parts of the ME are now polluted with depleted uranium. the birth defects in some areas are horrific. not going to post links, but if you really want to see the horror bought and paid by U.S. serf/taxpayer money, google depleted uranium children iraq. warning, not for the weak.
And the great thing about it is the same thing is being done to Americans... right now. It is well known that glyphosate is the cause of the breast cancer epidemic. And to set your mind at ease it's in virtually all non-organic food plus you get the added benefit of fluoride based, brain damaging pesticides... So eat up me hardies.
The puppet eugenics government has announced that half of all deaths by 2025 (In less than eleven years.) will be from cancer.
We are being silently slaughtered. So eat those spiked GMOs. Use all the Round-Up you can. And don't forget the cancer laced, brain damaging flu shots.
Join the celebration. After all 100 million people in the U.S. are already dead from cancer over a 30 year period after being injected with the SV-40 laced polio vaccines.
Make sure to feed your kids food and drink from the plastic packaging and containers specifically formulated to leach gender bending, cancer causing, BPA into their blood streams and never make a connection with the absolute explosion in the gay population.
Crack a cold one. Watch the NFL and do nothing as the Great Culling unfolds.
Developed by the benevolent Ministry of Love, at that!
Lets put it bluntly the u.s. can not win its fabricated war on terror because the goal is vague and the enemy consists of an entire population embedded in innocent communities around the globe
Actually, it's both simpler and more absurd than that: it's not possible to "win" a war against a tactic.
Especially if you refuse to identify the real opponent.
You didn't need to bring Saudi Arabia into this discussion.
the whole POINT of the MIC is a "managable war"....the MIC NEEDS wars to survive, but not a huge one, just something to tricle out bombs and planes at a pace that can it can keep up to to make lots of MONEY. Who cares the reason, the WOT (war on terror) is the BEST one they have EVER created it will go on FOREVER!! Its perfect. They hit the mother load. Hope Russia nukes us all and put an end to this sick sick sick system. Either that or God finally has enough.
'Terror' is a noun...can't declare a winnable war on a noun. Can however, profitise the endeavour indefinitely. Good for some...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyCfp_Zz5Ek
Ah,good old Robin Zander and crew.
This Game... Ain't that a shame.
In a Fascist political economy, war is peace, as George Orwell puts it, in which wealth is transfered from the bottom to the top and cutting-edge advanced technologies are consumed because we were told there are no other alternatives. Winning any wars quickly as advised by the Art of War is bad for both processes that are the ideology of the day. In reality this is true human madness and savagery because we are still in the process of becoming human.
Wrap Yourself In The Flag fiscal stimulus about the only type no one in congress dare say no.
Pathetic
we are all Chinese warriors now
To quote JFK:
Obviously, cost is not factored in anymore. Obama just gets his gang over for a sleep over throws a world map on the floor and plays spin the bottle. Then they all suck each other off while playing Twister to Macho Man.
I believe the authour may be incorrect about the cost of the Fisrt Gulf War-1990-91.
He asserts 102 billion was spent but if I am not mistaken, the Saudi's, Japanese and others put up well over $100 billion themsevles given directly to the US.
The MIC made out very very well in the last decade of "Spreading Democracy." Fat profits and generous paychecks and bonuses.
AMERICA: Killing in the name of peace for 100 years!
With backing of Rockefeller, Rotshields, and Kuhn Loeb English Banking System.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed2kzRPrgio
recommended reading
Direct relationship between the Size of the Military Industrial Complex & total annual increases in military Funding
To my eyes, an insidious consequence of the endless wars/military conflicts the US has engaged in post 2001 is the skilled honing of a US government 'culture of tyranny' which gets directed and reflected back at the expense of American Constitutional liberties. Need to drone strike a US citizen who some peon military analyst thinks might be a turrist? No problem, we'll just contravene due process as part of the annual NDAA Congressional approval. Need to wiretap a suspected turrist? No problem, we'll build a capability that records every text/email/tweet/FB post/phone call anywhere in the world. Warrant be damned. The government uses 'public safety' as an excuse to murder Americans. That is a fact. Ironically, when a real threat to American safety emerges (Ebola), the bullshit politics of skin color prevents our government from taking common-sense precautions (travel quarantine from nations with active Ebola). Dont forget the Fedcoats eventually have to get rid of all the military hardware. So they cook up a gift program to police departments everywhere that effectively forward-deploys tanks, grenade launchers, and machine guns to towns with populations under 10,000. Frankly, I cant see any real threat that would justify mil-spec hardware in our largest urban areas. Finally, the Fedcoats have to pay for all this, so they've found a fraudulent scheme involving printing US dollarsand effectively usurping the will of the people while cost-shifting the value of their fiat conjuuring onto all US dollar holders. Congress hasn't approved ANY of the >3.5 trillion that now sits on the Federal Reserve Bank's balance sheet. How can a private organization that does not make a dollar without US government cooperation be allowed to amass a debt level roughly equavalent to 20% of the annual US GDP? Finally, the FEdcoats cant have a lot of these illegal intelligence gathering examined in a transparent court system, so they develop 'FISA' courts. Zero accountability to the citizens, zero transparency in terms of discovery and process. It's a very sick system that will destroy itself eventually.
Wars today are not extreme disagreements that they were historically. They are businesses.
Wars today are not extreme disagreements that they were historically. They are businesses.
Don't kids youself FS
War is always about taking something from somebody else through the use of force when they won't willingly hand it over.
Choose your title, but "business" has many names that it goes by especially when you are the ultimate leg breaker as the U.S. has been for the last 100 years in the business of theft!
In the past, once the object of affection was finally confiscated, the war ended. The difference today is war is continuous. The killing and the theft is perpetual. It goes on and on. There is no end. That is why there is no "victory". It would like Wal-Mart going out of business once it sold its junk.
"Sun Tzu had something to say about this: “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.” Seen in this light, has the Post 9/11 military strategy made the US a victorious warrior?"...
In light of Sun Tzu' observation(s) on "winners" and "losers" these are worth reposting if only to observe the level of rapid decline of what is emblematic of what a defeated warrior resembles!
Joe Biden on behalf the Israeli War Party...
Defeated Western Warriors !!!!
http://rt.com/usa/193044-us-embarrass-eu-sanctions/
http://rt.com/news/192880-biden-isis-us-allies/
http://govtslaves.info/biden-international-order-literally-fraying-seams/
Both sides can be under the impression that they are winning :
US counts territory and oil
Opponents count minds and hearts .
Both can be winning at the same time by these criteria , and will not stop .
"Cost ? But we're winning !"
Sides with Victory in sight are inclined to spin things out to savor the thrill and spoils .
So,the wars won't stop .
See
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2010/05/wars.html
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2005/11/new-limited-war.html
"Sides with Victory in sight are inclined to spin things out to savor the thrill and spoils . So,the wars won't stop ."...
You may be right 'lim'... But only if you are a raving deranged lunatic who will kill everyone including themselves when they don't get what they want!
I believe the Zionists have a name for it?...Some necessary "option" only a true overzealous psychotic loser could come up with like the equivalent of Hitler swallowing cyanide only for all it's citizens in addition to the leaders that created the crisis and condition???!!!
I guess I forgot, what was it we were going to win in those wars again?
Cost is the object. Resolution is the fear.
And this hasn't even begun to tabulate the 'War on Ebola'...
http://olduvai.ca
If he were alive today, I'm sure Sun Tzu would be laughing his ass off, saying, "You go 6,000 miles to fight an enemy?" "Are you OUT of your fucking minds?"....
Yes. I've said it myself.
Plus this article is bloodless in just like our government & press no one is talking about the human costs, economic costs, loss of culture & language, loss of ancestry & heritage.
US Dehumanizes the Enemy, doesn't collect data on civilian loses on purpose, then wants to ignore the waste, fraud, and abusive practices... like where money disappears.
Did Congressional Research add in the Billions lost in the Pentagon by Don Rumsfeld?
“When I asked Pentagon officials about the nature of war in the twenty-first century, the answer I frequently got was: Read Martin van Creveld of Hebrew University in Jerusalem…,
Not because these top brass are enamored of this historian or not because his writing justify their existence but, rather, the opposite: Van Creveld warns them that huge state military machines like Pentagon’s are dinosaurs about to go extinct, and that something far more terrible awaits us” — Robert Kaplan
Thanks best leads I've been given in weeks. I like organized writers since I am slow at reading.
Martin van Creveld proposes five key issues of war:
- By whom war is fought — whether by states or by non-state actors
- What is war all about — the relationships between the actors, and between them and the non-combatants
- How war is fought — issues of strategy and tactics
- What war is fought for — whether to enhance national power, or as an end to itself
- Why war is fought — the motivations of the individual soldier.
Creveld may be assuming we all know funds come from hidden actors and that politics & hidden Interests are deadly...
Robert D. Kaplan is an interesting character with an unusual Bio, just clear thinker or Intelligence Analyst by chance?
Did Congressional Research add in the Billions lost in the Pentagon by Don Rumsfeld.
Actually I think the figure was over three trillion. The loss was announced the day before the 9/11 attack. If you didn't know better you'd almost imagine that Rumsfeld knew about it in advance.
Rumsfeld: "According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions." -DoD (09/10/01) (He says this is 25% of what they spent)
- So this is multiple years with an average DOD Budget of something like $240 B at the top end
- Unless he is including black programs, International Assistance,...
- Best guess he is talking about funds going back to the Vietnam War
Katherine Austin Fitts has been writing about the siphoning off of .gov$ for 5 years. Start here:
http://solari.com/archive/missing_money/
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-11-18/“85-trillion-taxpayer-money-doled-out-congress-pentagon-1996-…-has-never-been
9/10/2001: Rumsfeld says $2.3 TRILLION Missing from Pentagon
http://youtu.be/xU4GdHLUHwU
uploaded to youtube 10/25/2006
The very next day, where the mainframes hold all of the accounting data gets struck absolutely dead on by a "plane". How convenient?
It is the Cloward and Piven war strategy...
Figure we spend $1 Trillion on Defense, Intelligence, Security, Spying, Department of State, Veterans, and International Assistance each year and in a time of peace. We don't have numbers for black budget stuff & funds in Domestic Assistance for DHS, Construction for foreign powers, and CIA Funds from their profits and secret enterprises.
So $1 T for Military, $1 T for MEDICARE/MEDICAID, $1 T for Social Security.
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Total—Department of Veterans Affairs Outlays 2013 = $143.6 Billion
Total—Department of Veterans Affairs Outlays 2000 = $50.1 Billion
Total—Department of Veterans Affairs Outlays 1998 = $45.6 Billion
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Total—International Assistance Program Outlays 2013 = $48 Billion
Total—International Assistance Program Outlays 2000 = $25.7 Billion
Total—International Assistance Program Outlays 1998 = $26 Billion
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Total--Department of Homeland Security Outlays 2013 = $66.5 Billion
Total--Department of Homeland Security Outlays 2000 (FEMA) = $3.9 Billion
Total--Department of Homeland Security Outlays 1998 (FEMA) = $2.9 Billion
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Total—Department of Defense—Military Outlays 2013 = $609.4 Billion (Down from $650 B)
Total—Department of Defense—Military Outlays 2000 = $283 Billion
Total—Department of Defense—Military Outlays 1998 = $257.9 Billion
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In the case of America Defense should always be in inverted commas. Better again renamed Offence.
The Civil War is by far the most costly. We still spend billions every month as a result.
Very droll.
Now had the South won.......
"The best sword is kept in its sheath" Sanjuro (1962). War is a business of chaos extraction as it always has been; when the peaceful trade economy has been broken, fools try to fix it by force and violence and bankers oblige.
Read it years ago.
He sold his services once by saying he could make concubines into solders in an afternoon.
They were brought out lined up to march with much giggles and messing around. He pulled his sword and cleaned off the head of the first girl.
They marched pretty good after that, and he was hired.
PROBLEM = POLITICAL CORRECT TWATS ARE RUNNING THE WAR AND OUR GENERALS HAVE NO BALLS
war is all about killing until the enemy gives up and loses the will to fight.... they decide when the war is over by surrendering unconditionally....
war is hell not some made for TV R rated movie
Sherman showed how to fight and win a war.....
TURN THE DOGS LOOSE.... scrap the ROE's get rid of the cunts running the show
let them be State sorority girl weeping vagina rosannaroseannadanna spokes"persons"...
KILL EM ALL ....... LET GOD SORT THEM OUT
The wisdom of Sun-Tzu is wasted on you.
Sun-Tzu is always held up as a strategic genius but anything I've read seems to stating the blindingly obvious.
Until you have read ANY work in it's entirety, you would do well to withhold judgement as to it's worth.
The 4 or 5 oft repeated quotes from TAOW are hardly a basis for sweeping assessments. In fact, I would argue that the reason those are used so much is because they are about the extent to which most mental midgets are capable of understanding and parroting. And - even at that - time and again we claim that those things are obvious, but do the exact opposite.
Yes, I guess you're correct.....I need to withhold judgement.
War is not, nor will war ever be, an art form.
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to get the enemy to die for HIS country.
Dying for his "Country" is so 19th century. Now the "enemy" dies for unnamed bankers and corporations.
WE CAPTURE AND PROVIDE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND DUE PROCESS TO TERRORISTS WHILE WE DRONE AMERICANS...wtf ???
when is KSM and the ft hood scumbag going to be EXECUTED....
when are we going to call islamic jihadi violence what it is vs workplace violence...???
when is the worthless deserter traded for 5 al queda leaders going to be court marshalled...???
WHEN IS THE USSA GOING TO REVERT TO THE RULE OF LAW...???
when will the person who revealed the indetity of the doctor in pakistan who facilitated confirming OBL going to be brought to justice...???
when are we going to be given the facts behind the setup of STS (seal tem six) sent on a useless mission in an antique chopper. a mission on which the afghans backed out and disembarked from the chopper... ???
ussa has now experimented with libtard leadership and shown it to be either incapable of leading or running a secret agenda..
I thought you were talking about the Seal Team killed in the Invasion of Panama for a minute there. Back then I heard they were using radios that gave away the entire mission assault at some Airport.
Equipment in the US Military has come a long way... in joint communications with coalition forces and in identification of friendlies.
War is hell, but the way we do it we train and work with foreign fighters. That scares the hell out of me, but goes back at least to Korean War. Seal Team 6 seems to have been crammed into one chopper and shot down in a betrayal. But who knows. The choppers might have been old, but they did a great job back from the start in 2001 and they fit on Cargo Planes and can take lots of small arms fire.
You go to war with the equipment that is available. Don't get stuck on what you got. It will always be that way. Probably how you use the equipment has to do with your leadership quality and your officers in the rear.
The military is the greatest foe of the NWO take over. Their debasement has been planned and executed for years. First the inclusion of women largely incompatible with our military, homosexuality in the open and now transgender politics. These coupled with the excising of politically unreliable Majors, Captains and Non-coms along with the blackmailing of senior officers, Petraeus etal, neuters the military resistance. Their is a plan and it involves billions of hollow points, a domestic force, multiple false flags, a military too stretched, weary and leaderless to resist and the U.S. is over. This just isn't that hard, getting the sheep on board to our cause that is hard..
Got beans?
Epic post.
Above forgot one thing. Sometimes our US NCOs are foreigners or now could be Mexicanos or Central Americanos... and the problem I have is that they are sort of Anti-Gun. They didn't grow up with guns in the house or in the Culture on some Island in the Pacific or in Central America.
If they did, it was drug cartels & Criminal Violence.
Questionable: We got red meat eating guys in the military that can be led by over sensitive NCOs, Some Women, that don't like guns.
Sure in wartime, you get more hand to hand combat training and more time with guns and on the Range. But I still question the use of Foreign Nationals in our US Military.
Well aware, it seemed redundant, the destruction has been planned and is being executed. A leviathan this size can only be affected by Judo, think on it..
I think I only have about six cans of beans and some bags of dry ones but I do have a sweet ladies ass ton of ammo. And guns. And silver, And gold. And topographical maps. And NO Iphone.
Bleat.
Frankly, dual citizens have diluted America.
Obama is allowing illegals into the U.S. military. And the country at large…
It’s curtains for the Old-stock Americans.
"Dispossessing the People brings wealth to the dispossessor, yielding the greatest profit for the bankers when the people are impoverished." All part of the Sumerian Swindle.
When 100% of the politicians, their mouth pieces and all of their families are on the front lines I'll be there to support them with bullets and a bayonet at their backs
And then their alleged enemy and ours can play monkey in the middle with them. And dance to the tunes of their war or on their graves whichever comes first
Watch how fast peace on earth and good will towards all men miraculously appears
"If My Sons Did Not Want War, There Would Be None"
Gutle Schnapper Rothchild
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/10.14/images/wantwar.jpg
The History of the House of Rothschildhttp://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm
Dr. Joseph Farrell was just talking about history of the Rothschild... about the middle after orthodox church.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed2kzRPrgio
I gave you an upvote for plugging Joseph P. Farrell. That's a top-tier conspiracy researcher.
Truer words were never spoken. This is part of the utter collapse of the British Empire. Imperial wars started the rot and World Wars I and II killed them dead as a doornail. Now they are a lap dog running behind the USA begging for scraps and an appeance of mattering. Hitching their wagon to the USA and following every order makes the elites there believe that they still matter in the world, when in fact, they do not in the least matter in any way. They can't even control the borders of the kingdom, which are wide open to invasions from every corner of the planet. Pathetic UK elites!
“There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.” That applies to the loser of course but also the victor, which is forced to expend substantial resources and in the end may not get much spoils to show for it, while becoming vulnerable himself to other attacks."
And as we know the terms of the surrender are in part "all debts will be honored".
Joseph Farrell was talking in the video above about Nazi Bankers and an Extra-National Nazi State after WWII. So it is a little conspiracy oriented. Bilderberg meetings started out as Nazi money laundering operation by Nazi bankers.
- Anglo American Bankers
- Nazi Bankers
- BRICS & Russian Bankers
- Zionist Bankers may be rolled up under Anglo American
He says it is the end of American Monopoly Banking Era as Developing countries emerge as new powers, power is decentralized.
See Sibel Edmonds and James Corbett on Gladio, and Gladio 2.0 befor assuming Farrell's angle is 'conspiracy'...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AARtO88G5Ag Sibel Edmonds on Gladio B - Part 1
4 parts plus Q&A edition. High calibre, and almost unbelievable.
James Corbett is another top-tier researcher. He covered Snowden-type information at least five years before Edward Snowden became mainstream news.
Empires collapse from the edges. UK Crown Corporation still owns the USA. Vatican/Switzerland owns UK. Follow the money...
The Depopulation Agenda For a New World Order Agenda 21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T-62uxbMBM (1:27:41)
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The Beatles - Come Together
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axb2sHpGwHQ (4:14)
Sun Tzu didn't have no stinking MIC.
I present to you, the jury, Exhibit A in this travesty:
PNAC/NeoBolshevik Paul Wolfowitz
This rodent was one of the prime instigators of the Iraq War - which he claimed would only cost $35Billion (yes that's a "B", not a "T") .
A $Trillion or so later (yes that's a "T") and still counting - with a million dead/displaced, Rat-Face, instead of slithering off into some corner and dying of shame, then gets !!!PROMOTED!!! to head the World Bank... no doubt "for Services Rendered" (to Israel).
"If you wait beside the river, sooner or later your enemy's body will float past you." ~ Master Sun
Security is not a thing like oil or gold which one country can gain at the expense of another. -Tutu
But, the real purpose of war is not to defeat a foreign enemy, but a domestic “enemy”.
It is the process by which criminal and useful-idiot classes rid themselves of potential rebels, askers of embarrassing questions, troublesome possessors of a sense of justice, or intelligence.
To accomplish this goal, tyrants do not hesitate to work up such potential rebels (male children) into a lather and send them to the frontier to murder male children of neighboring kingdoms.
After the slaughters, tyrant involved meet for a feast, toast one anther, then retire to their palaces to plot the next mutual slaughter.
It is, basically, the sport of kings, this murder of young male potential rebels; they (criminal and useful-idiot classes) don’t hesitate to organize a slaughter of 20 million peasants just to get rid of a few hundred, or thousand, potential rebels.
Sport of kings…? It’s more like a sport of Judeo-Bolsheviks, who have been perpetrating genocides and general plunders for at least 5,000 years (historians and archeologists have documented it 4,000 years ago, so we add another 1,000 years for its development in prior ages). Their genocides are/were necessary to destroy as much evidence and as many victims and witnesses as possible; thereby giving future victims little warning.
They weren’t always known as Judeo-Bolsheviks, of course; they first appear as Elamite money-lenders and merchants, evolved into Babylonian priesthood and merchants and, with a few other name changes, to their present mask, Judeo-Bolshevik. (See my article, Exodus #23, parts 1 and 2).
Since WWII, the US has pretty much broken every rule laid out in Sun Tzu's timeless classic. Which explains why the US hasn't won a war since WWII.
I feel that article did not emphasize two of the most important points:
The first chapter stated:
"Success in war is based on deceits."
The last chapter stated:
"Spies are the most important soldiers."
http://www.artofwarsuntzu.com/Art of War PDF.pdf
E-book verson of Sun Tzu's Art of War
Page 4, point 18.
All warfare is based on deception.
Page 17, point 15:
In war, practice dissimulation, and you will succeed.
Page 35. Chapter XIII.
THE USE OF SPIES
8. When these five kinds of spy are all at work, none can discover the secret system. This is called “divine manipulation of the threads.” It is the sovereign’s most precious faculty.
10. Having inward spies, making use of officials of the enemy.
18. Be subtle! be subtle! and use your spies for every kind of business.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erZ2YidTZp4
The Art of War Sun Tsu
An hour and a half long documentary ... Yet another sensationalized for TV type show, but nevertheless, basically interesting material! It splices together the history of Sun Tzu, discussing the battles that he fought, and then reviews things that he wrote down, in context of American military history in Vietnam war, and D-Day invasion, and American civil war, as examples. Of course, that points out, again and again, the importance of deceit and spies in war!
Warfare is the oldest and best developed social science. However, that is a very paradoxical science, because the most crucial element to its successes were deceits and spies. Since 9/11 there has been a rampant runaway of the unfettered successes of deceits and traitors, where those "spies" are practically running the government of the USA. Warfare was organized crime on a larger scale. The same principles and methods of organized crime have been systematically and persistently applied to dominate the American political processes, to the degree that the best organized criminals now almost completely control the government, while that government has become the biggest form of organized crime and terrorist organization in the world.
I REPEAT THIS:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/03/26/empires-then-and-now/
Empires Then And Now
By Paul Craig Roberts, April 3, 2012.
"... Washington’s empire extracts resources from the American people for the benefit of the few powerful interest groups that rule America. The military-security complex, Wall Street, agribusiness and the Israel lobby use the government to extract resources from Americans to serve their profits and power. The U.S. Constitution has been extracted in the interests of the security state, and Americans’ incomes have been redirected to the pockets of the 1 percent. That is how the American empire functions. ... In this new empire, success at war no longer matters. The extraction takes place by being at war. Huge sums of American taxpayers’ money have flowed into the American armaments industries and huge amounts of power into the Department of Homeland Security. The American empire works by stripping Americans of wealth and liberty."
& I REPEAT:
Obviously, war was based on deception,
& spies were the most important soldiers.
What is not obvious is whatever happens to
the methods of war, after the weapons
become billions, and trillions, of times
more powerful than previous eras?
Warriors were organized gangs of robbers ...
Human realities are systems of organized lies operating robberies, because human being operate as entropic pumps of energy. All private property is based on backing up claims with coercions. Money is measurement backed by murder, because the debt controls depend upon the death controls. The production of destruction controls production. Our entire civilization is based on thousands of years of the development of social successes based on deceits and the treachery of spies. Natural selection was internalized as human intelligence, and that was applied through systems of artificial selection, wherein the main manifestations were the applications of the principles and methods of organized crime on larger and larger scales, through sciences enabling better technologies, in order to be even more dishonest and back that up with more violence.
Along the way, the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories became almost totally dominate, including by controlling the opposition groups to the established systems. All of the socially significant religions and ideologies were co-opted and compromised to operate within the same frame of reference as the biggest bullies' bullshit world view, and therefore, promote impossible ideals that always make the opposite happen in the real world.
Everything that used to work and make sense
about how to fight and win wars went insane,
after the weapons made their survival groups
no longer have sane relationship to victories.
There is nothing surprising about 9/11 being
false flag deceptions, designed to start wars.
However, that rush towards an apparent World War III
makes only the most insane kind of social habit sense.
If the Ancient Chinese had nuclear weapons,
then China might be a radioactive wasteland.
9/11 was done by deceitful spies, to trick us.
Unfortunately, it has almost totally worked.
9/11 was nothing new in the methods of war.
'Warriors' have gotten too good
at deceiving themselves too far.
WE NEED RADICAL PARADIGM SHIFTS!!!
WE NEED DIFFERENT DEATH CONTROLS.
In my view, practically nobody understands the degree to which we are living inside of a Bizarro Mirror World, where everything appears backwards and distorted. The biggest bullies' bullshit world view was built into the English language that we are using to communicate through. The bullies' bullshit world view was able to dominate the philosophy of science, the same as it was able to dominate every other social enterprise. The vast majority of people take for granted the errors in the philosophical presumptions built into natural language, such as English, which is the leading form of a bullies' bullshit language. The vast majority of people almost totally take for granted the errors now at the foundation of the philosophy of science, such as that an arbitrary minus sign was inserted into the entropy equations in thermodynamics and information theory.
For all practical purposes, human animals have become apes with atomic bombs, backing up electronic monkey money. Meanwhile, almost nothing regarding the ways that most people understand the world has been changed by the ways that the special theory of relativity made atomic bombs possible, nor has anything about quantum mechanics, that made electronics possible, changed the common sense presumptions that most people continue to cruise with autopilot upon, presuming they are correct, whereas, the basic common sense ideas about time and space have been proven to be wrong and backwards.
As soon as one defines any living being, then one has relatively SUBTRACTED that from its environment, and across those defined boundaries it must necessarily TAKE ENERGY, which, in English, is ROBBERY. Therefore, basic scientific understanding of the world, wherein human beings and human civilizations operate as manifestations of general energy systems, are actually consistent with all other energy systems, throughout industry and nature. However, the history of social successes based on deceits and spies for thousands of years made civilizations in the crucible of conflicts to become based on warfare, which became the foundation for economics to be based on enforced frauds. Furthermore, that history developed all of the controlled opposition groups to become co-opted and compromised, to stay within the biggest bullies' bullshit world view, and therefore, promote bogus "solutions" to chronic political problems based on impossible ideals, which continued to backfire badly, and actually cause the opposite things to happen in the real world.
In fact, militarism is the supreme ideology, because it deserves to be. The great paradoxes before us at the present time are how to develop better death control systems, when the established systems are based on the maximum possible deceits, and the only publicly significant controlled opposition groups operate within the same frame of reference as those deceits already do. Almost NONE of the prevalent religions and ideologies, which are almost all ranges of controlled opposition, are actually useful, since they are NOT based on sufficient intellectual scientific revolutions.
This article above was asking "What if military strategy was timeless?" However, I found its "answers" to be typical of the ways that Zero Hedge articles tend to underestimate and understate the deeper nature of the problems that they present, and therefore, remain on too superficial levels whenever they point towards "solutions" to those problems.
It is possible to apply the basic concepts of general energy systems to human beings and human civilization. However, doing that requires the appreciation of unitary mechanisms, rather than relying upon the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies, and their related impossible ideals. Some of the basic concepts of energy systems are that the most labile components control the system, and that systems act along their paths of least action, or least resistance. In human terms that has meant that society was controlled by the people who were the best at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence, while therefore civilization as a whole developed along the path of least morality.
It would be possible to organize better resistance, in order to change what the path of least resistance may be. However, it is NOT possible to change the ways that what actually exists are different systems of organized lies operating robberies, in some dynamic equilibria with each other. Only what actually exists can actually evolve. The basic breakthroughs needed to understand "War and its Costs" have been stated before by many people commenting on Zero Hedge, who have pointed out that "War is a Racket," and that all wars for a few Centuries have been the "Banksters' Wars" because "Wars were the Harvest of the Bankers," since the basic systems were debt slavery, backed by wars based on deceits, which have grown at an exponential rate to generate numbers which have become debt insanities, which are on the verge of provoking death insanities, as Peak Insanities accompany and lead the way through Peak Everything Else.
In my view it is NOT possible to stop the runaway fascist plutocracy juggernaut, but it might be possible to retool that, to accomplish the necessary purposes in superior ways. We should be going through a prodigious series of intellectual scientific revolutions, which apply to political science generally, and especially in particular to the military and monetary systems. It is NOT possible for systems of artificial selection to stop natural selection. However, it is possible for systems of artificial selection to channel natural selection pressures through a greater use of information, enabling a higher consciousness.
In my view, better understanding of "Sun Tzu And The Cost Of War" leads towards the ideas of how can human beings operate better murder systems, doing the death controls. Since there are combined money/murder systems, in which the debt controls are actually backed up by the death controls, the relationships between warfare and economics are profound! Both are paradoxical sciences, because the success of warfare was based on deceits, while the success of finance was based on frauds. However, most of those who begin to understand that then still tend to switch from their relatively good analysis, to collapse back to bullshit when they propose bogus "solutions," since they typically continue to base their set of "solutions" on the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies, and related impossible ideals. Instead of doing that, I recommend we should go THROUGH the Looking Glass of our Bizarro Mirror World, to accept that our government is the biggest form of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gang of criminals, the biggest gangsters, the banksters, because IT MUST NECESSARILY BE, as soon as we are human beings that perceive the world through SUBTRACTING parts from the Whole, and then use human language to tell stories about that.
As soon as we perceive separations of human beings from their environment, which is what naming them and giving them properties necessarily does, then we axiomatically have created systems of organized lies operating robberies, and every good analysis of that is going to reveal those facts as the real situation. Therefore, human beings, acting as entropic pumps, are assembled into groups, which are collectively acting like entropic pumps, through systems of nested toroidal vortices.
Good social science, and the principles and methods of organized crime, necessarily merge! Everyone has some power to rob. All citizens are actually members of an organized crime gang, their country, because governments assemble and channel the power to rob, since sovereignty is based on the power to rob. There is nothing wrong with the theory of a democratic republic operating through the rule of law, however, that does not work after enough of the people can be fooled enough of the time by the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories. What has actually happened is that the best organized gang of criminals have effectively privatized the public "money" supply, and leveraged that up and up to dominate all social institutions, which was primarily achieved by backing up that debt slavery system with wars based on deceits.
The currently established systems are necessarily operating through unitary mechanisms, whereby governments are the biggest form of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, which currently happen to be the international bankers. Those banksters were able to capture control over the public "money" supply, and have that fraud enforced by governments, in ways which effectively privatized the power to rob, present in "We the People." There are NO possible genuine solutions other than better organized crime, because human realities necessarily operate as energy systems which work the same as the principles and methods of organized crime, because human beings act as systems engaged in entropic pumping of energy through themselves.
Any genuinely better resolutions would take a better functioning democratic republic operating better death controls through its rule of law. However, obviously, at present those things are actually being done through the runaway triumphs of legal fictions, or legalized lies, whereby the combined money/murder systems are effectively more and more privatized, as government enforced frauds serving particular private interests, while the vast majority of people appear to have been reduced to Zombie Sheeple that do not understand that, because they have been conditioned to not want to understand that.
We should be understanding natural selection better, so that we could understand systems of artificial selection better. That is the way to understand how and why warfare was the oldest and best developed social science, upon which foundation was built economics. The oldest book on the Art of War SHOULD be seriously studied. However, the most important things it stated was, first, successful warfare is based on deceit, and therefore, second, spies are the most important soldiers.
THAT APPLIES TO HOW THE RULING CLASSES HAVE WAGED WARS AGAINST THE PEOPLE THAT THEY RULED OVER! That never stopped happening. The whole of the history of Neolithic styles of civilization were based upon social pyramid systems, based on backing up lies with violence. The domestication of animals and plants was first and foremost the domestication of human beings, or "human farming" as social slavery systems. Those have become more and more sophisticated social slavery, as the currently established systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, or the ways that the financial systems are based on enforced frauds, wherein private banks make the public "money" supply out of nothing as debts, which system the government forces itself, and everyone else to operate inside of, AND, the public military operates its death controls through the maximum possible deceits, such as how the 9/11 events were a spectacularly successful inside job, false flag attack, that started more genocidal wars, while preparing the way to impose democidal martial law.
A more realistic understanding of the ways that those systems have enabled an exponential rate of growth of the total human population and total human activities, all based on "paying" for the strip-mining of the planet's natural resources, using "money" made out of nothing as debts, means that we are seriously up that creek without a paddle, since civilization has thereby high-graded itself to hell.
We need to develop better integrated systems of human, industrial and natural evolutionary ecologies, which are theoretically possible things to do, through assembling systems of creative alternatives. However, at the present time, the entrenched systems based on the maximum possible deceits and frauds are making that practically impossible to be done, except through the psychotic breakdowns of those systems, when severe social storms blow through, after the potential for that has been pumped up and up, by the runway social systems of enforced frauds controlling everything! Moreover, almost all of the controlled opposition groups, in the forms of various old-fashioned religions and ideologies, are just as much of a part of the overall problems as are the currently dominant State Religions: the Monetary System, and National Security, which are the result of frauds and deceits controlling our civilization.
HOWEVER, NO GENUINE SOLUTIONS COULD POSSIBLY BE BASED ON REPLACING THOSE SYSTEMS WITH SYSTEMS THAT DID NOT OPERATE DEATH CONTROLS TO BACK UP DEBT CONTROLS. ONLY DIFFERENT SYSTEMS ARE POSSIBLE, AND THOSE SHOULD BE BASED ON A GREATER USE OF INFORMATION, ENABLING HIGHER CONSCIOUSNESS!
Of course, the main obstacle in the way is the degree to which the ruling classes' war on the consciousness of those they ruled over has been too successful, for too long, including that the controlled opposition groups, throughout every social institution, tends to be just as much a part of the problem. The basic problems are being driven by progress in science and technology, which were due to a series of paradigm shifts. The theory of social solutions now requires even more profound intellectual scientific revolutions, in the philosophy of science, which would then apply to political science, and therefore, to the monetary and military systems.
Basically, the Art of War should be radically transformed to cope with the development of weapons of mass destruction. At present, the only things we have done, so far, is increase the size of the MAD Money As Debt systems, by amplifying those with electronics, which was being backed up with the MAD Mutual Assured Destruction policies regarding the development of atomic energy. Doing that any better is extremely problematic since those systems are based on the maximum possible frauds and deceits, while almost all the controlled opposition groups continue operating within the same frame of reference as those established systems operate within.
Paradoxically, the costs of war are LESS than the costs of the illusions that there could be no war. Better death controls should be based on accepting that natural selection pressures demand that there must be death controls. Radical transformations of the human artificial selection systems, in order to operate better death controls, to back up better debt controls, are theoretically possible. However, almost all the entrenched systems, along with their controlled opposition, are obstacles in the way of doing that!
As we rush towards the existing debt slavery systems developing debt insanities, which will provoke death insanities, we are watching the back-up systems of natural selection apply pressures to the established systems of artificial selection, which may force those systems of artificial selection to go through some dramatic changes of state, to perhaps survive to become new systems. Of course, we do not know whether it is possible that a civilization whose foundation is based on enforced frauds can survive by changing enough to cope with science and technology becoming trillions of times more powerful and capable. At the present time, that seems improbable, since it would require an additional series of more technological miracles, and an even greater series of political miracles, to enable that to become possible.
There is no doubt that it is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to consider "Sun Tzu And The Cost Of War," which is why I have posted such a long comment regarding that article!
I beam when I see RM come to the view that we humans are but 'apes with nukes' :)
Indeed, a Wild Theory,
if ever there was one!
I tend to have pet phrases, from time to time, that I repeat, until I eventually move on to some new pet phrases ... That one about "apes with atomic bombs" has been a favourite of mine for a several months now!
I love your stuff.
Unfortunately, sometimes it's longer than my attention span.
2U by the letter 'R', RUSH and Radical Marijuana. Funny that both have been active for over 40 years and that both are listened to all around the world!
Not saying much these days but nothing says death insanities like 6th Mass Extinction a la GEORGE DiCapRIO...
All roads lead to Paris
P.S. green for you ; ) from MEAN BUSINESS and meanwhile back at Kurzweil AI;
Could hemp nanosheets topple graphene for better supercapacitor electrodes? No, you can't smoke the supercapacitor August 14, 2014Yes, back to unitary mechanisms...
P.P.S. PCR could easily squeeze forestry and mining onto his list... just look at what these "farmers are up to these days!
LOL, MEAN BUSINESS:
"you can't smoke the supercapacitor!"
Such an inside joke, almost nobody gets it!
I had also been speculating along the same lines in my Forum thread about Alternative Energies & Society Adapted to Them?
Anyway, that hay making video video you linked had such appropriate music, ominous, but nevertheless, up-beat, while the photography was taken by drones! (Quite awesome technology, these days, those flying cameras!) HOWEVER, the question obviously begs to be asked: how long until that kind of advancing technology replaces the last human operator of those farm machines with some computer/machine entity?
http://allpoetry.com/All-Watched-Over-By-Machines-Of-Loving-Grace
All Watched Over By Machines Of Loving GraceP.S.
By coincidence, I just watched a 2 hour show:
http://www.innerworldsmovie.com/
That documentary has high production values, and is quite entertaining to watch merely for the aesthetic appeal of that show. I continue to have my opinion that most of the Unity guys were paradoxically promoting still old-fashioned moralities, since the deeper issues of "Unity" must involve the ways that there appears to be some death, and human beings operating death controls.
... I found it almost universally continues to be the case that those who make entertaining videos tend to not consistently approach solutions with unitary mechanisms, instead of their solutions collapsing back to false fundamental dichotomies, and the related impossible ideals, which do not provide for better death controls or better done human murder systems.
That documentary Inner Worlds, Outer Worlds is well researched, relatively insightful, and interesting to watch, however, I do not think it does a good enough synthesis of ancient mysticism inside post-modernizing science, because it still cleaves to the old-fashioned moralities which eschew taking more responsibility for human artificial selections, as those necessarily develop out of the natural selections.
Notions that by stopping thinking one shall solve problems appears to be preposterous to me, but rather, thinking more about how one thinks is more likely to improve the ways that the mind is the master tool, using all other tools! Although the video is worthwhile watching, I rather despised its "political messages."
AS WITHIN THIS ARTICLE ABOVE ON ZERO HEDGE, THAT VIDEO ALSO UNDERESTIMATES THE COSTS OF WAR, AND UNDERSTATES THE EXTREMELY PARADOXICAL NATURE OF THE PROBLEM OF PROVIDING BETTER DEATH CONTROLS!
All Watched Over By Machines Of Loving Grace
Funny you should mention that (Mystic Rhythms!) because it jives with exactly why RUSH chose 'Clockwork Angels' as the name for their latest album. The book 'Clockwork Angels - The Novel' written by Kevin J. Anderson is from a story and lyrics by Neil Peart.
"... In that moment we can see... Spiritual Machinery!"
When you look at the cover artwork, one's first impression is that the clock shows it's 9:11 because we are now all geared to the event of 9/11. But upon closer scrutiny, because it just doesn't seem to be exactly 9:11, one senses that it's past 9:11. What comes after 9:11 (or 9/11)? 9:12. On the 24 hour clock that's 21:12...
For those unfamiliar, 2112 was the renown RUSH album from the 70s about a dystopian future society.
One more thing to note about the cover art is the STORMY background, blood red...
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My reply above to your epic comment on this Zero Hedge article was my way of 1) letting you know I haven't done my study of unitary mechanisms YET! LOL, and 2) I appreciate the decades of work that you have done even though I was unaware, too busy rockin' the plantation! Put another way, while I was focused on one Canadian (group of) speaker(s), I was missing an equally important one!
So... Happy 40th Radical Marijuana (BTL) AND RUSH and Thank You!
So... for you RM, 'The Garden'. And YES, I can see, death controls are central to how we "nurture and protect", surely we can do better than mass extinction. it's the MEASURE of a life...
The Garden
live in Dallas Texas with the Clockwork Angels String Ensemble
"before we get back to our earlier funnier songs..." - Geddy Lee
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P.S. I was referring to myself in the above when I SAID "Not saying much", you speak volumes!!!
Thanks for those comments, MEAN BUSINESS.
I am glad that you agree that we must face the paradoxical problems:
"I can see, death controls are central to how we "nurture and protect", surely we can do better than mass extinction."
Metaphorically speaking, human beings have gone too far into "gardening" now to be able to just stop, and there is no way to imagine how to "garden" without some forms of birth controls, in the sense of deciding what to plant, and death controls, in the sense of what to weed out.
You may remember me saying this
I said that the Sino-Soviet conflict in the 60's was a deception.
It fooled the American into thinking there was a conflict between the communist states.
And it made America (Nixon) choose to support China over Russia.
You all remember John Adams' opera buffa, "Nixon In China"? And its hit tune, 'The chairman dances?
Well, Mao was doing the polka on Nixon's butt.
The animosity between Mao and Stalin was real, and there was still a rift between the two leaderships even after Mao and Stalin.
The (self-induced) deception was that the west thought it was a much bigger and more fundamental rift than what it really was, it wasn't.
just because they had differences doesn't mean they will suddenly turn on each other at the west's goading, that belief was just naive.
and those animosities only existed with the Soviet/Chinese relationship, today, only the US don't get the message Russia is not USSR.
A certain parallel is the west's attitude to China-Vietnam today.
Just because Vietnam has certain frictions and historic conflicts with China does not mean Vietnam will be a willing stooge for the west.
People like to point at the historic animosity between China and Vietnam and suggest those are good reasons for Vietnam to be the next anti-China stooge, yet they ignore the many instances throughout history of the Vietnamese working with the Chinese DESPITE their animosities. Asians are practical, but they are not stupid.