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Thousands Sign Petition To Ban Flights From Ebola Countries; Two Removed From Newark Airplane By Hazmat Crew
Whether it is due to the sheer deferred Ebola panic (we warned in June it was only a matter of time before the "world's worst Ebola epidemic" made it to US shores, which promptly got us branded as fearmongers as usual), or the administration's bumbled attempt at damage control with a very confused and mostly pointless press conference on Friday afternoon, but three days ago, a petition was launched on the White House website demanding that the "FAA ban all incoming and outgoing flights to Ebola-stricken countries until the Ebola outbreak is contained." As of this moment, over 4,000 people have already signed it.
And while petitions are usually pointless exercise in public outcry, in this case the CDC already responded. As the Hill reports, a travel ban to the countries facing an Ebola outbreak could paradoxically make the problem worse, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Tom Frieden said during a Saturday press conference.
Paradoxically indeed? Let's listen to Mr. Frieden's arguments:
Frieden said the CDC would consider any and all precautions, but warned that a travel ban could make it harder to get medical care and aid workers to regions dealing with the outbreak.
He said that had already occurred when African Union aid workers tried to get to Liberia but were stuck in a neighboring country for days because of a travel ban.
"Their ability to get there was delayed by about a week because their flight was canceled and they were stuck in a neighboring country," he said.
But isn't it mostly US troops deployed in Africa now, sent on a mission to shoot the Ebola virus on sight, instead of "medical care and aid workers" who are now the primary respondents to the world's worst Ebola epidemic in history? Guess not.
Frieden also said the CDC has experienced a spike in reported potential cases of Ebola following the first diagnosis of a patient in the U.S. in Dallas earlier this week, saying the rise in concern was a good thing but that he remained the only patient who has been identified as suffering from the disease. Two patients who were initially identified as having potential Ebola symptoms in the Washington, D.C. area were ruled to not have the disease on Saturday.
"We have definitely seen an increase in the number since this patient was diagnosed… that is as it should be," Frieden said. "We have already gotten well over 100 inquiries for possible patients… this one patient has tested positive," he said. "We expect we will see more rumors, concerns, possibilities of cases. Until there is a positive test that's what they are, rumors and concerns."
So, after ignoring the problem for months, the CDC finally has precisely what it was hoping to achieve: panic? Great job guys.
Frieden also said there were lesons to be learned from the delayed response to the Ebola patient in Dallas. It took two days for those who had been in contact with him to be contacted by medical officials, and Frieden said that should alert medical professionals to pay especially close attention to patients' travel history if they're showing signs of fever.
"As we anticipated, the arrival of the first Ebola patient in the U.S. has really increased attention to what health workers in this country need to do to be alert and make sure a travel history is taking," he said.
And speaking of inbound cases of fever, moments ago ABC reported that CDC officials have removed passengers from a plane that landed in Newark Saturday afternoon following a possible Ebola scare.
United flight 998 from Brussels landed at Newark Airport and has been met by Centers for Disease Control officials based in Newark after passengers on board, believed to be from Liberia, exhibited possible signs of Ebola. The passenger was displaying flu-like symptoms.
The flight was scheduled to land around noon.
Officials with the CDC removed two passengers from the plane. A man had been traveling with his daughter and both were removed by a CDC crew in full HAZMAT gear.
The airline issued a statement confirming that crew needed to assist an ill customer. "Upon arrival at Newark Airport from Brussels, medical professionals instructed that customers and crew of United flight 988 remain on board until they could assist an ill customer. We are working with authorities and will accommodate our customers as quickly as we can," said a statement from the airline." Other passengers remained aboard but were eventually allowed to deplane around 2 p.m.
A scare which promptly concluded when within the hour, CDC officials determined that the people exhibiting flu-like symptoms were, in fact, not contagious.
Passengers being allowed off United flight 998 upon @CDCgov determined person in question not contagious. @ABC7NY #Ebola
— Darla Miles (@DarlaMiles7) October 4, 2014
Finally, as a reminder, Newark is about 20 miles form Manhattan, although those looking for a real dramatic impact should wait until the Ebola scare touches down at JFK. At the current pace of spread, of the Ebola panic if not Ebola itself, it should be a rather short wait.
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TOO LATE FOR THAT!
#BUGGED_OUT
Time to sue the airlines for negligence
What part of the guy from Liberia barfing all over the plane was determined to be not contagious by the biggest fucking liars on the planet do you guys not understand? Obama just tweeted "its all goodie in the hoodie" in response to questions about the flight.
FINALLY Some Semblence Of SANITY !!!
Heckuva job Frieden...
WWZ movie did get one thing right. It begins in Newark.
Don't Worry FOLKS, THEY Have It Under Control...
Alarming Claims Made by ‘Stepdaughter’ of Dallas Ebola Patient Likely Won’t Help Restore Confidence in CDC’s Handling of Case
A woman who claims to be the “stepdaughter” of Dallas Ebola patient Thomas Duncan told CNN’s John Berman on Friday that she had close contact with her stepfather and ended up calling 911 when he became feverish and sweaty.
However, she also revealed a number of other “shocking” details about her interactions so far with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention officials.
Firstly, Youngor Jallah claimed she found out that Duncan was diagnosed with the deadly Ebola virus on the news. She told Berman that no official with the CDC or other agency called to inform her.
“I saw it on the news. No one called me and tell me that step-daddy is positive of Ebola,” she added. “No one called me.”
The woman also said no official provided instructions as to how — or even if — she should clean and disinfect the apartment. Further, Jallah claimed she is still waiting to receive instructions from CDC officials on whether or not she should self-quarantine.
“No one is giving me no instructions and no one is telling me nothing,” she told CNN, later admitting that she is “scared” of contracting the Ebola virus.
“There’s no one to help, only Jesus,” Jallah continued. “We only depending on God.”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/10/03/alarming-claims-made-by-stepd...
CDC High Tech De-contamination Stations:
http://columbiaclosings.com/pix/14/09/p1130244.jpg
The worst thing about the disease are the obvious symptoms...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/for-quarantined-re...
New CDC HAZMAT Suit is here:
https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/9b5e8fc61285ebe07...
As I was saying...
“I’ve been seeing Ebola on TV, how it starts, with muscle pain, red eyes. When I see his eye, it is all red, and I think maybe this time it is Ebola virus and I should be careful,” Jallah, 35, said in an interview with The Washington Post at her nearby apartment, where she and her family have been quarantined.
If you were ever thinking about quiting smoking marijuana now might be a good time before they start picking up potheads off the stret and locking them up with ebola sufferers...
**"Frieden also said that, in theory, a sneeze or cough could spread the virus from someone experiencing Ebola symptoms. Officials had previously downplayed this possibility, focusing on direct contact with bodily fluids."***
= CDC admission of airborne transmissibility
SURPRISE!
Dual citizen Tom Frieden of the AMERICAN CDC is on top of things: https://twitter.com/dwill6413
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/219626-officials-clam-up-about-ebol...
Health officials clam up about effort to contain Ebola in Texas
By Elise Viebeck - 10/02/14 04:33 PM EDT
"Health officials are refusing to answer growing questions about their response to the first Ebola case in the United States."
Under intense questioning from reporters, officials with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the Texas health department and the City of Dallas repeatedly declined Thursday to provide details about the steps being taken to prevent an outbreak."
We have to consider the possibility that west Africa is already lost. If we feel sorry for the poor bastards then let's air drop supplies, but the whole area MUST BE quarantined NOW. NO ONE OUT.
the clear sign of a short brain : requesting for flight ban from countries hit by ebola... as if only sierra leonne, nigeria, guneae, liberia & senegal where the only nationalities concerned...
usa is fucked up, totally.
So how exactly can it be turned around there if infrastructure can't be built fast enough to deal with the newly infected? Care to explain that one to us troll face?
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of a cure.
Banning direct flights to and from the affected areas is only part of the solution. All people (US citizens or otherwise) need to be tested and quarantined until accurate test results have been reviewed. Then, if they receive the all clear, they can go directly from quarantine to the outbound plane.
The US should step up the building of facilities there. I mean PRONTO. If they can build huge Walmarts in 3 months, they can build basic buildings in a week. Fucking do it and send military planes with all supplies needed. US citizens should receive top priority for treatment not because we are better but because we are building the infrastructure to deal with this and because the most locals would probably die anyway.
Those that "MUST" be flown to the US, should be brought here under the absolute strictest safety procedures and protocols. This has been done successfully a couple times.
All people elsewhere that have been to the affected areas within 30 days and have not been tested should be banned from travel and I don't care what passport you have.
Lock it down NOW. Nobody leaves without testing/quarantine.
No more kneegro's from Western Africa into the USA. Obola doesn't seem to understand that cause he is a Kenyan born Kneegro.
Shut them kneegro West African countires down! NOW....3...2....1......
UPDATE:::
Dallas Ebola case: Thomas Eric Duncan now in critical condition
The lone U.S. Ebola patient is in critical condition, the Dallas hospital that has been treating him reported Saturday.
Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas didn't provide any further details about Thomas Eric Duncan's condition and a hospital spokeswoman, Candace White, didn't immediately respond to emails and phone calls. The hospital previously said Duncan was being kept in isolation and that his condition was serious but stable.
ALSO
On Friday, a hazardous-materials crew decontaminated the Dallas apartment where Duncan was staying when he got sick during his visit. The materials were sealed in industrial barrels that were to be stored in trucks until they can be hauled away for permanent disposal.
The family who lived there was moved to a private home in a gated community, where they are being carefully monitored. The city had been having trouble finding a place that would take in Louise Troh, originally from Liberia, her 13-year-old son and two nephews.
..... I Think Its VERY Significant Now To See If Any Others Were Infected....... This will SHow How Easy/Hard The Virus Is To Transmit...???
Be careful with your conclusions about transmissability from this single case. If it is widely passed on, that speaks for itself. If there is no transmission, that might mean it ain't so infectious, but it also might be due to chance, or to a cover up. It could be a false negative.
Question: why the fuck do sick people need to be brought to the US? Why not treat them in an offshore military hospital in, say, Liberia? If we can send 4000 soldiers, surely to christ we can set up a hospital.
These people must Hate Americans. Even wehn I had to live in Australia they quaranteened my 92 pound pooch for 6 months and he was healthy as an Ox. And they let these infected animals in and out !?
WTF!
"The WHO hopes to train 400 health workers in eight or 10 weeks under the programme. Experts estimate that Liberia needs several thousand to defeat the disease."
http://news.yahoo.com/survivors-bring-shocking-realism-ebola-treatment-b...
Just 400 barely trained health workers in 8-10 weeks??? Christ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG7LjVCj50Y
BTW, does anyone have a link or the patent number for the reputed US govt patent on the ebola genome? Can't find it on the USPTO website.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS600...
Ebolachan wants to dance with you!
http://youtu.be/craeh_jjpXc
“a travel ban to the countries facing an Ebola outbreak could paradoxically make the problem worse”
Also, in case the genius has not thunk it:
· Promiscuous sex makes STD’s less likely.
· Drinking copious amounts of alcohol makes liver disease less likely
· Rampant firing of guns makes firearm deaths less likely
· Mortgaging the house for conspicuous gambling makes bankruptcy less likely.
I could go on but it is a waste of time for this idiocy.
Your sins will find you out!
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/10/03/Boss-Coworkers-of-US-Ebola...
DaddyO
got N95 respirator masks ?
Regarding the Newark passengers:
The man and his daughter were taken to University Hospital, where the emergency room will not accept anyone else for four hours
So this flu season when we will be having a lot of Ebola scares fooding the ERs, be sure not to have a heart attack, get into a bad car accident, or have anything else happen to you that can't wait for 4 hours.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/04/us/new-york-flight-sick-passenger/index.ht...
Because illegal immigrants are more important than your taxpaying azz. CONTAINED and ITS FOR YOUR SAFETY!
Hey guys, guess what the director of the CDC is.
An asshole?
Oh, and a crypto beak.
Better to bug in than bug out.
http://outbreaks.globalincidentmap.com/home.php
Two weeks ago, I went to Lowe's and bought some Tyvek suits with booties, another box of 20ea. N95 respirators, rubber gloves, some rolls of painter's plastic and some pvc tape to add to my preps.
The rolls of painter's plastic make for good bed separation media that can be rolled up and burnt along with its contents.
You can also seal up an area with the plastic and the tape.
Overly cautious?
Maybe, but it's better to have it and not need it than vice versa.
DaddyO
Uganda: Patient dies from Marburg, hemorrhagic fever virus similar to Ebola, 80 monitored
http://wtfrly.com/2014/10/05/uganda-patient-dies-from-marburg-hemorrhagi...
Thanks. For some reason, I assumed it would be suppressed, and not to be googled.
Since when can the US Government patent anything?
Maybe around the same time corporations became people.
Obama brought all kinds of sick Mexicans into the country and then spread them around to get the rest of us sick or dead. That solves the insolvency of Medicare and Social Security.
Just how slow are you people?
You stupid fuck... Anyone can catch it; haven't the infections of American citizens shown you that?
"It" is a group of sovereign nations.
People (anywhere) should be free to leave the nation they are in, unless one likes the taste of Soros NWO cock and life on the prison planet. Whether someone should be allowed to enter another sovereign nation is a more debatable point, but the US has no right to impose its myopic will on other nations.
In the USSA, we don't BAN FLIGHTS
We FAN BLIGHTS
thank you, thankyouverramush....
Petition
Signed
EBW
I'm sensing a pattern.
I'll plug the old Hegelian Dialectic in, and see if it might explain things a little better.
'edotabin' is a part of the 'reaction' cycle (whether ignorantly or wittingly). THIS is a FACT.
#1) SET A GOAL (that would not otherwise be palatable to the masses). Oh, I don't know. The control of Africa? The further hinderance of free travel by the masses? An excuse to declare 'martial law'? The realization of the first declaration of the 'Georgia Guidestones'? Let's think of some way that this could be possible.
#2) CREATE A PROBLEM. Sign laws that authorize gene-splicing research (in the name of 'science'). Hell, you can even use the remains of aborted fetuses in these experiments. Continue to fund 'biological research' that attempts to, for example, re-create the 'Spanish Flu'. Spray the skies with shit and make up some shit about 'global warming' or 'climate change' for 20 years or so, and desensitize the masses as to these daily flights via media pundits who spout 'conspiracy theories' and associate those who see this taking place with those who do other 'crazy things' (like following and posting on 'ZeroHedge') (This 'Beta-testing phase has taken quite a while to accomplish, by the way). Begin spraying operations over the nations least able to defend against this using 'LIVE' variants of the laboratory-created 'biologicals' that naturally won't raise any questions as to the source (due to acclimation by the masses, poverty in the nations due to engineered drought, decades of false-flag operations that employ false 'religious zealots' and have turned the nations in to killing fields, and the introduction of 'technology' that further distracts those intelligent enough to possibly see the connections).
#2A: STIR THE POT. THIS is where POTUS SOETORO REALLY comes in to play in the plan. Send 'aid workers' to these nations. Make sure that the borders are left WIDE-OPEN. Bring infected 'aid workers' back to base. INSIST that borders and travel restrictions be left 'WIDE-OPEN'. Let the PATENT-HOLDER (CDC) of this aerosolized virus (NO SHIT!) take 'control' of the situation...
#3: WAIT FOR THE REACTION. If the reaction isn't 'fast enough', send out planned and planted 'reactionaries' who will fall back to the strategy of #2A and attempt to 'STIR THE POT'.
THIS is where the situation stands, RIGHT NOW at THIS TIME and exemplary by THIS RESPONSE to THIS POSTING on ZEROHEDGE.
I can't WAIT to see what #4: PROPOSE A SOLUTION, entails. Perhaps the activation of USAFRICOM (supposedly created under USAPATRIOT). PERHAPS an activation of all those 'presidential directives' like 12333...
Yeah. 'edotabin' is one of 'those'. "The US should step up the building of facilities there. I mean PRONTO. If they can build huge Walmarts in 3 months, they can build basic buildings in a week."
"Fucking do it and send military planes with all supplies needed."
BILL and MELINDA GATES built six 'research facilities' funded by their own money and sponsored by the CDC in AFRICA for the express purpose of developing the PATENTS to this 'EBOLA' virus. It's a FACT that is IRREFUTABLE.
YOU, 'edotabin', are either ignorant or arrogant in your statements.
I was wondering where the funding for such a fantastic and supposedly impossible operation might come from, and then I recalled Donald Rumsfeld's press conference held on 9/10/2011, wherein he described a 'missing' TWO POINT THREE TRILLION DOLLARS from the Pentagon's 'budget'.
If you would care to dispute the facts in this, then make your argument. I'll send links in case you don't believe me.
wide angle lens, takes in a "larger picture" overall.
pity most folks are content to use their phone-cams, and stay focused on the extraneous details, all the while hitting all the emotion-buttons, seeking attentions for their personal dramas.
upvoted for being one of the few making sense on this topic.
((as you were folks, back to your endless derivative-names for the lame figurehead lightning rod, working as intended))
You and highbrow Montgomery are gravely misguided. No personal drama. Stop gloating because you think you have it figured out and realize the true danger being brought to our doorsteps.
Montgomerry,
When did my view become so important all of a sudden? I'm attracting highbrow responses now even if only to be ridiculed? Hmmmm does this constitute horizontal or vertical movement in the world of online message board importance?
The financial trickery doesn't bother me much as I can predict and navigate successfully with relative ease. To some extent, I have both the "Tylers" and people such as yourself to thank for forward-thinking, revealing articles and meaningful exchanges that resulted in this "successful navigation of troubled economic waters". Finances have been weaponized in some cases and play a major role in geopolitcs as well as define an ever-increasing portion of who we are. Exceptionally important as money may be in today's society, I consider what is going on with Ebola to be in a different league. Whether this is by design or not is no longer my primary focus. If I'm in the emergency room because I hurt my arm and the EUR/USD is down 10 pips I don't care too much. If I go in to the emergency room and there are people convulsing and may be contagious I consider that to be a problem.
No, I will not dispute the facts you stated. I actually appreciate the insight. I had heard about the Gates foundation activities and something about ownership of the patent but do not have nearly enough info to form a solid opinion. As for the pattern you've outlined, although definitely not groundbreaking, I would tend to agree with the sequence of events.
Theories aside, you don't really offer any concrete reason or outcome. You've plugged some rather predictable variables into the formula and the answer is? It might be this and it might be that. Maybe they are destabilizing Africa. Perhaps Rumsfeld stole the money from the Pentagon and it might make people think this and it may make them more receptive to that. Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication. I admit I am not certain. If you have something enlightening to say (as you imply with your comment) please come out and say it. We already know you think I'm stupid but if you could move it along a bit and get to the meaningful conclusion......
Simplistic as it may be (and I do not mind admitting it) I say that exchanging theories is a luxury. Most do not have this luxury. I think you will agree that constant instability/insecurity is part of the plan. In any case, you will definitely not have this luxury if this disease shows up in your neck of the woods. "I am not in any danger as they are still executing #2A ! "
Would you liked to have had Mr. Duncan as your temporary neighbor or would everything be fine because they are simply "fishing for a reaction"?
If borders were closed and flights restricted would that not hinder step #2A? You mentioned "open borders" twice as part of that step of the plan.
Would you prefer that 300 infected individuals show up on our shores and .gov has the excuse that they somehow miscalculated? Perhaps it would be better if they were forced to implement a strict containment plan in Africa and if anyone showed up here, the blame could more easily be attributed to their alleged "failure"? Would this not give the appearance of greater culpability and if that happened would it not help bring to light the possibility of ulterior motives?
If they want to sell vaccines would you rather they spray Africa or would you prefer they spray your house because of an epidemic in your neighborhood? Maybe you prefer the mandatory injection method of delivery? Perhaps its best if they control our population movements as opposed to Africa? On the other hand, maybe Africa has no money so they will destabilize Africa and create enough of a panic here so as to milk us for vaccines. Maybe a huge number of infected people will show up in Russia out of the blue.
You can look at this in any way you like. Obviously, our viewpoints are different and seemingly irreconciliable. I say that no matter what form of subversion is being used and to what end, the only thing I can do in this case is react. Unlike the markets where I can predict and act, I have no control over the disease and definitely do not exercise any power over how it spreads, how many it kills or how it is cured. The only thing I can do is to voice my strong concerns over what is happening and point out my suspicions of the .gov actions in an attempt to reverse it while limiting the damage it does.
It simply doesn't matter how this epidemic started... we have to bring everything we need to bear on the problem to contain and kill it.
The virus is out there and mutating in thousands... it's a known quantity from the 2012 outbreak in Zaire that it is known to spread in an airborne fashion from monkeys to pigs.
You don't need to know any more than that.
Period.
Absolutely!
If you read the messages above, I suggested that rather vigorously but was ridiculed for "reacting" and playing into their hands.
This has got to be stopped in its tracks, aggresively using all methods possible.
Montgomery,
My argument was made and I noticed no reply. I never questioned the validity of the facts but I did question their importance as it relates to the situation at hand. Do you know how important your stupid facts right this second? They mean ZERO, NADA, horse shit. No matter how true your alleged facts are, to even remotely suggest that this disease should not be very strictly contained because the Gates Foundation, Rumsfeld et al developed the vaccine and are spreading it on purpose is gravely misguided. It is devastatingly dangerous.
Your precious facts aside, what plan do you have if (God forbid) you get Ebola today highbrow? Plan #3C? Do you have access to this vaccine and are mocking everyone else who does not?
Even if I were to agree with your accusations concerning the roles of the Gates foundation, Rumsfeld and others in "cooking this up", strict containment would reduce the market for their golden vaccine and probably reduce the price too. Furthermore, if strict containment were implemented it would be easier to pinpoint who was behind this if it "continued to escape". After all, is this not what you are trying to accomplish with your facts? You want to let as many people as possible know right? At least I hope this is what you are trying to accomplish because if your facts are complete and as rock solid you claim, you should be out there screaming this from the rooftops and not wasting your time getting snarky with meaningless me.
I tried to be polite, I responded and you are nowhere to be found. I even came back and wrote this sysnopsis to yesterday's longer post as many may find that too long to read. It's no wonder you aren't around highbrow. You got nothing. You are nothing more than a smartass of self-proclaimed importance sitting behind a keyboard gloating, all while steering people down a disastrously wrong path.
Crisis of CONfidence in America?
No, Crisis of Grey Matter and PC horseshit. A minority of "folks" think that PC is more important than rigorous math and science. I say "Game On," Let ebola decimate the world. Rid the planet of El Stupido.
If there were facilities, who would staff them? There are just not enough people available in those coutries to have 50 trained people or more for each facility.
These are areas where many believe that shaking hands with someone can cause you to morph into a goat.
CDC Director Contradicts Himself Live over How Ebola Is Spread
The video above shows that the CDC Director managed to contradict himself in just a minute-and-a-half regarding how Ebola is transmitted live on the national news.
Partial transcript (the particular clip begins at 5:44ish in the video above, emphasis added below):
The lesson here? Stay as healthy as possible, work on boosting your immune system, get prepared and stop looking to the government to take care of you.
Two new additions to those CDC Ebola sections really stand out:
This isn’t the first time the CDC has changed content on a webpage, and the act in itself isn’t a bad thing – after all, when new information is discovered, one would expect a site like this to be updated.
But sometimes, the addition of the new information is…suspicious. A recent example that comes to mind happened about a month ago, when the CDC removed the phrase “contaminated air” from an article about Ebola infection prevention.
The thing is, this information hasn’t been publicized.
They should force that FUCKER to fly to and from Liberia 50 times with no protection. Lying sack of decaying shit!
The American Government, Obama, CDC, Congress, etc., are doing one HELL OF A JOB to protect the Homeland.
Vomiting passenger (flying on United FROM LIBERIA) tested for Ebola by CDC at Newark Vomiting passenger tested for Ebola by CDC at Newark AirportIt's hardly just the government. The typical 'Merican is watching football right now and couldn't give a shit. Most people who do care are left-right paradigm tards derping each other. The rest are bugging in/out and making last minute preparations. Yeah, I don't have a good feeling about this at all. I'm sure people will panic at some point, but it will be too late by then.
I wanted to edit my comment to add something but it is not letting me.
This is not about hysteria about ebola, this is about being lied to. They are the ones creating the hysteria by moving the goalposts after the fact. When more people realize this, then hysteria might ensue.
You can't edit your posts once someone replies to it, edotabin. It's set to work like that.
One thing I can tell you. The ICU nurses are worried. Some are close to panic, but even the straight-down-the-line ones, usually uncritical consumers of the government/MSM line of the day, are surprising me by telling me they are quite concerned. Several I know have told me they're getting ready to quit at a moments notice.
The hospitals, of course, are telling us all is well. Don't worry, be happy.
Who among you has already bugged out? Who is planning to do so ASAP? Who has a BO plan if things reach a tipping point in their area? I am very curious about fellow ZH members plans. We live part time at our BO location and just this week restocked the larder with nonperishable food and sanitation needs. I have my own plan but what is yours, we would need to pull our kids out of high end private schools to the tune of around 75k annually so that is a big Factor. Provided the grids stays operational we are set to live comfortably for several months. With grid down we can still survive several months with out leaving our site, just not so comfortably. What are YOUR PLANS? Let's discuss.
Winter is coming fast and I think it will help keep it in check. I have 2 Bol the latest one farther out. we would have to bring every thing from number 1 to it but have the means. Both are along a river. I will be spending a lot of time on this new property this fall as we have already built a small landing and dock Jon boat and all. The ducks are now on the river and turkey and deer seasons is approaching.. Ther is a abandon house near it we would use if need be. It's 5 miles bad rd from # 1
I am about 2 miles off black top on secluded road with only 2 other full time residents. We have all the water we would ever need and as we are veritable farmers by trade (and by choice as it provides for prepping everyday). Food is not an issue, heat could be but I just filled the gas and diesel tanks and loaded up on 2 cycle engine oil for the chain saws. We are far better set then most along with the means to protect it. The question is when? When do we ( the royal we ) hunker down, what is the signal, tipping point ? Any suggestions out there?
With ya on the topping off things we've been wearing out the chains saws picked up some spare chains ,as for a signal when the corp jets start to fly out not in and the Dc crowd. Warren pollack who's had a few of his writings on zh has closed up his yt channel that got my ears perked up
I also am trying to figure out the line on the sand. Need to draw it now, and stick to it. If things go bad there will be so much disinformation flying around we won't have a clue.
Being in the health care field I'm inclined to see healthcare workers catching it as my personal signal to get out of Dodge.
My wife and I are in the process of locking down the last of our priority farm preps: Installing a hand-powered backup pump on our well, installing a wood stove in the house, locating a second shipping container for firewood and hay/straw for critters, cistern, etc. etc. Basically, we're in the middle of the three month emergency prep bing for all the essentials that we can possibly swing.
My lines in the sand initially were 10k cases worldwide/100 locally. At this point the growth of the epidemic is on track to hit 10k in a couple of weeks at most. Locally we have nothing yet - but I've got my eye on TX as a canary in the coal mine.
If TX has told us anything IMHO, it's that we are woefully unprepared for this kind of thing.
Ran your equation ...
.00002*x^4 - 0.0047*x^3 + 0.4234*x^2 - 8.4018*x + 149.46
X=0 corresponds to what date? 3/1/2014 (?)
That plot was disturbing as hell.
Edotabin: I preferred your previous post, which was lucid, eloquent and polite, yet succinct. There is room for that here, even if you don't get as many "upvotes."
:-) Please believe me when I say that upvotes are not my motivation. The "crude" remark was made out of genuine anger and sheer disgust. Anyone who would unnecessarily subject people to the threat of Ebola does not deserve to be spoken to politely. What is being allowed to happen and this gradual moving of the goalposts is inexplicably evil.
As for the polite, lucid and eloquent comment, I appreciate the favorable mention. Thank you. When I first started exploring "conspiracy theories" a bit more actively, I noticed an "air of superiority" developing. I thought I knew something others didn't and would gloat. The more time passes, the more I realize how foolish I was.
Rudely, crudely or politely, you can't say I didn't try.
All the best.
Eloquent indeed.
If western Africa is already lost (a distinct possibilty) then the rest of sub Saharan Africa is doomed as well.
Quarantine everything... send in massive amounts of aid... and give each ebola patient that presents themself a free iPhone and a selfie with Obama as an inducement to keep them from running away...
+ a quadrillion Zimbabwe Dollahs!
Couldn't agree more Mr. Cat, but the selfie with Obola is priceless.
Via The Dallas Morning News: Ebola patient in critical condition says Texas Health Presbyterian. Excerpt:
Well, if he dies, that clears the charges in Liberia. Watch his fucking "estate" sue the hospital for a missed diagnosis. Some things could only happen in Amerika.
The local ambulance chaser better show up in a Hasmat suit.
SHIT.
The 'responders' are lucky to have a t-shirt and shoes.
Here is a pic of the 'first responder' cleaning up the sidewalk where the Dallas Ebola guy threw up:
https://twitter.com/wfaachannel8/status/517739906211528704/photo/1
I don't 'TWIT', by the way (or, is it 'TWEET'?).
I found this on BLN.
http://www.blacklistednews.com/News_chopper_caught_Ebola_clean-up_crew%3...
The 'property management company' probably told this 'migrant worker' to get out the Chinese-made 'pressure washer' (that they found at Lowes for only $149.00) and clean off the sidewalk so that the High-Caste Indian woman 'IMMIGRANT' seen in the pic would not have to put up with the smell (like it smells in the 'lower-caste' cities like Bangalore).
I was just thinking that the best way to eradicate any virus is by the death of the host. In THIS case, it's the whole city of Dallas (the EBOLA virus is being washed into the SEWER SYSTEM). That's kind of 'Dr. Strangelovian', isn't it? Humans choose to KILL CANCER that is caused by RADIATION by IRRADIATING IT (and killing the host body in he process). Primadonna princesses can't STAND the reality of mortality, or even the SMELL of death. HOSPITALS smell so, well, 'antieptic', don't they?
An ILLEGAL ALIEN at the behest of some (probably) FECKLESS WOMAN at some faceless 'PROPERTY MANAGEMENT CORPORATION' has just 'followed orders' and infected the WATER SUPPLY in the entire CITY OF DALLAS. I hope that this 'higher-caste' blue-dressed Indian woman is satisfied.
It's 'HAZMAT'. This 'catch-phrase' is short for 'HAZARDOUS MATERIALS'. NUCLEAR, BIOLOGICAL, CHEMICAL...
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/10/02/theres-a-very-important-question-about-the-dallas-ebola-patient-who-cleaned-up-the-vomit-outside-his-apartment/
There’s a Very Important Question About the Dallas Ebola Patient That Needs to Be Answered
The word is that the Israelis are recommending that all people with Ebola symptoms should be quarantined in the Gaza Strip.
"Passengers being allowed off United flight 998 upon @CDCgov determined person in question not contagious. @ABC7NY #Ebola"
If the person in question has ebola and is vomiting, he IS contageous. I hope he just had too much to drink.
Does it not strike anyone here as odd that the U.S. M.I.C. announced its presence in the area recently, and now this happens? The timing seems more than fortuitous, given recent events vis: energy and de-dollarization. This thing is going to spread across the Arab world just as the Saudis happen to be holding meetings with Russia and China and gearing up to 'flip' away from the USD. Direct attack would be an obvious provocation, leaving too much room for inconvenient things like accountability, but bearing in mind that we're dealing with honourless, conscience-less, false-flagging psychopaths, it's not hard to picture a biological warfare scenario where this thing gets pushed out and "just happens" to spread across political boundaries, likely helped along by covert means (e.g., airborne, water supply, sneaky stuff), and when the Saudi infrastructure is threatened, the M.I.C. is "forced" to move in and "help" them deal with the "HUMANITARIAN CRISIS." In this context, Ebola is seen as an instrument of CLEAN BREAK, like Al Qaeda / ISIS / ISIL / Khorosan.
Yeah. Or they're "forced" to move in and deal with the humanitarian crisis in a collapsing USA.....
...can we send Obama back to Africa?
Petition? What?
<<http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/klayman-files-for-deportation-of-barack-obama/>>
If you banded me from travel, the first thing I would do is travel. Do you think you could stop infected people from leaving. Not happening!
Yes.
Flap your arms as fast as you want you still ain't making it to Europe or North America.
Hopefully this can't be spread to sharks...
Only "sharks with laser beams attached to their heads."
I mean what part of Quantine don't these clowns get? It's killing hospital workers you ambulance chasing morons. "We'll just cut a bigger check and that will stop the spread"?
At least, you can slow them down so they develop symptoms before reaching Europe or the US. In a jetliner, plagues spread with an average speed of 500 miles ( 800 km ) / hour and in 24 hours, one is at the other side of the planet.
Perhaps we can wait until someone dies before sounding the alarm...misdiagnosis being what it is and all...or we can be sheep...it seems becoming that the latter will carry the day all the while we bomb another sovereign nation into smitherines and the herd expresses their fear...we deserve what is coming ebola, anthrax, swine flu, bird flu, measles, mumps, rubella, flu, west nile, polio, or should we talk about isis, osama, or sadaam or the vaunted russians...in the US they spend so much in defense only to be scared shitless for what? The same for health care n obesity alone is at 40%....If u are here crying about ebola you may jus find yourself in a fema camp afraid of primitive western financed 'terrorists'...mentally free of this madness is the only way, now go get your vaccination n hazmat suit for 29.99 at walmart by way of gsk....vote democrat or republican it doesnt mAtter. phu*k me.
Bausch & Lomb Advanced Eye Relief for Redness. Stuff works.
Seems like Jallah knows more about the symptons than the jackasses in the Dallas hospital.
@ZerOhead: "The worst thing about the disease are the obvious symptoms..."
IBID: The worst thing about the disease is the obvious ZH apathy in Petition Signatures --
9200 signatures, > 45,000 ZXH reads of this article. Kinda says it all: "ZH WANKERS". All blog/talk, no balls.
p.s. I signed the petition, having posted last Friday* -- so fuck you, junking wankers!
* Fri, 10/03/2014 - 17:26 | 5286495 new Kirk2NCC1701
@ y3maxx: "...Notice also that Israel will not get a single Ebola scare."
As Paveway IV posted earlier today (5284736)... Israel rejects U.S. request on Ebola relief in Africa.
Israel will not allow flights from any Ebolistans. Nor will other Gulf States. Unlike our Gov, they are neither dumb, nor PC-conscious. It's not so much "shame of them", but "Shame on US".
STOP ALL OUTBOUND FLIGHTS FROM EBOLISTANS!
Tell us when the demolition teams are seen wiring up explosives on all NYC bridges and tunnels to quarantine it.
TIA!
And remember.. Ebola zombies are attracted to noise so better get a suppressor while they last.
But the really good news is that an Ebola pandemic here will force Obozo to finally resign as he should have a longtime ago!
Nothing would shame him into resigning. Be thankful if he departs peacefully when his term is up in 2016.
The royalty gig is too sweet to walk away.
Ha! When the White House finally has no choice but to admit that ebola is here, it will be granted amnesty and anyone who objects is a racist.
Obama resigning. Dream on. He's more likely to declare martial law and appoint himself dictator for life.
He's already turned USA into a 3rd world country.
I think it's disgusting that you simpletons blame solely him rather than paying attention to what the UN, ICLEI and Agenda 21 actually say. Everything that is happening in the US is a result of ICLEI and Agenda 21. Bush Snr. sold you kids down the river, and the only president that did anything to stop it, Carter, is referred to as the worst president in recent hisory which is a farse of epic proportions.
Carter? Give me a moment to stop laughing.
Weaponized vomit testing in PA:
http://patch.com/pennsylvania/radnor/whos-dumping-bags-of-vomit
Now that is some sick shit ....
Person doing it is in need of some serious professional help.
Better hit that bitch with a power washer. It works to sanitize sidewalks.
They will use a neutron weapon or a daisy cutter where applicable
Stop reading my mind!
Daisy cutter = Bad idea
Not for bodies piled up in a old rock quary
EBOLA: A weaponized biohazard lab manufactured killer compliments of Israhell.
I thought I had something on the bottom of my boot.
Your face you zino-scumbag.
Plus 1 zo on bad idea but look at the track record
Listen Crazy Cat,
"=" is an assignment of value. You want to use "==" to "COMPARE" value and arrive at your conclusion, true.
Let me show you.
(Daisy cutter == Bad idea)
That is a true statement.
(Daisy cutter = Bad idea) you get a runtime error because you are trying to assign the value from the Bad Idea Class to the Daisy Cutter Class which we all know won't work.
Assumption: no "IMPLIED", or shorthand explicit type-casting displayed.
Cut him some slack, he must be a Delphi programmer, you can see it in his eyes.
Poor kid, what a nightmare. For all our sakes she should not be alone with this.
“I saw it on the news. No one called me and tell me that step-daddy is positive of Ebola,” she added. “No one called me.”
They were probably calling all his other chilluns and hadn't yet gotten around to her.
More likely no one called anyone. It was after 3pm.
Don't count on Jesus to help...his Dad created this shit..
sorry but this is the work of something else. something that doesn't like you. GOD is love. and love gives you a choice. what is causing this wants to fork you like chess. one bad choice or another bad choice. we can defeat this threat but it is going to depend on a lot of people acting intelligently. we need to define the threat and its capabilities an formulate a plan. what has worked in the past is qurantine. but how to implement that in a global inter connected economy?
That has always been the problem with black people in america and now africans. They keep wanting god to do something, god to figure it out. Not every day is sunday, this is the real world and this disease is real and if you want to go their god made. They reason they aren't saying anything to her and not seeing her is real simple. The people that is their job is afraid of going and getting this disease so they whistle through the craveyard and say they did when they didn't. We aren't ready for this, and the govt. knows it. The first thing they should have done is ban flights from out of that area but the didn't do it.
Re. Flight ban. Dual-citizen CDC head says no.
God helps those who lock n' load.
OBA MA ///// EBO LA ???
You Couldn't Invent This Similarity Shit LOL...
If it turns out to be a US military strain they should name it after Obama.
Kind of like the Anthraxius cheneyitis that was used to pass the Patriot Act when some Democrat Senators were seen to be holding out against it...
"Millions sign petition to have President removed from office."
Methinks this is the end but we'll see.
So far the Governor of Texas has both said and done nothing to "Brahe Blame Gamers."
Talk about a political layup.
"I think my neighbors who live at 123 main street are hiding an Ebola victim"
Drone strike.
Nukes for West Africa.
Also an understanding of the progression is warranted.
The thing has a gestation period...yet it cannot be detected? I find that impossible to believe. Yet it would appear to be true.
Once your infected you are dead. This whole "50% fatality rate" is total bushit. This virus remains inside you forever and you are a threat to anyone in your immediate vicinity once the incubation period is done.
Thanks for the info Doc.
sarc/off
"I think my neighbors who live at 123 main street are hiding an Ebola victim"
Oh believe me you'll know for certain when those black plastic garbage bags they leave on the sidewalk next to yours begin reeking of putrid blood, vomit and diarrhea soaked textiles.
Then what will you do?
I meant it like when the police are used to settle a score, they "swat" someone by making an anonymous call to say some illicit activity is being done at such and such address, and BAM! SWAT team comes crashing through the living room window.
So the Ebola virus will be weaponized in many ways, this is another.
Well then you've never lived through a real, insidious health crisis.
Bullshit. I passed a kidney stone once.
Me too. Don't eat dates.
All wet, hey you might need a raincoat
Shakedown, dreams walking in broad daylight
Three hundred, sixty five degrees
Burning down the house
Read this a few weeks ago, its real:
http://article.wn.com/view/2012/04/20/Discovery_Parasite_named_after_Pre...
"Paragordius obamai, named after the 44th President of the US, whose father was raised in Kenya where the parasite is found,..."
Sweet Jesus... Not one red cent of research money wll ever find its way there again..
Btw, what the hell is a Hamzat Crew?
Is this like some sort of anti-pork SWAT Team or sumthin'?
Al Hamzat is a CIA run NGO currently sending out crews to fight against Assad and is aligned with ISIS although regretably against the FSA.
This likely makes them our strongest ally next month...
They are a team of people trained to clean up and dispose of hazardous materials.
Usually, they clean up oil/gasoline spills after highway crashes, empty out buildings where illegal meth labs operated, investigate noxious odors, clean up crime scenes after forensics has been performed, and stuff like that.
Then they all eat a ham sandwich and go through decontamination.
What's next? Men with fevers raping 5 year old girls for a cure?
Sounds like an nIsIs solution.
They're already selling female children to young fighters.
Just when you think it can get no dumber, stupider, idiotic, brain dead...Frieden speaks and you see a new low.
I really need to look up the background and IQ on this guy. Does he even have a medical background or any classes in logic?
@fonzanoon...
you are correct...
i dont trust these ..... leaders of people...
thats why we bugged out...
as in 'see ya later, alligator'....
#BUGGED_OUT
So there's wifi in orbit? Man, there's a comfort.
+1
#BUGGED_OUT
I seriously wish you good luck. May you carry strength and wisdom on your journey.
+1
I wish you good luck as well but it really isn't going to be a problem over here as long as we scream loud enough for them to shut down travel and send in whatever resources it takes ASAP.
May you carry strength on your journey...
Since when do you think gubmint is doing the right thing, they probaly ship these ebolaheads in by hundreds for threadment.
Long pharma stocks
Long the internet. I've been on an aircraft carrier...trust me, they have very good doctors.
Bugged_In!!
I'm only making essential trips out, just got back from stocking up on hay for the horses.
With so many international travelers coming to the mouse house and Orlando, it is only a matter of time until ORMC is ground zero for Central FL.
When will the maddness of allowing travelers into and out of West Africa end?
Not until the rest of the world is sufficiently innoculated with the Ebola virus.
The current regime has no limit to the amount of blood it is willing to wash its hands in and smear all over its citizenry.
Better plan accordingly if you're not sufficiently prepared to hunker down for a few weeks.
DaddyO