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Dallas Officials Looking For Missing "Low Risk" Potential Ebola Patient As CDC 'Almost' Admit Ebola Is Airborne

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The good news - CDC Director Frieden says the Ebola outbreak in Nigeria 'may' be over (but can't yet give "all clear").

The bad news - the US Ebola patient has taken a turn for the worse; Dallas officials are looking for a missing homeless man who may have Ebola contact; and CDC Director Frieden warned that "in theory, a sneeze or cough could spread the virus from someone experiencing Ebola symptoms."

 

The 'Good' News...

  • *EBOLA OUTBREAK IN NIGERIA MAY BE OVER, CDC'S FRIEDEN SAYS
  • *CDC CAN'T YET GIVE ALL CLEAR IN NIGERIA OVER EBOLA
  • *NO MORE EBOLA CASES REPORTED IN DALLAS, COMMISSIONER SAYS

The 'Meh' News...

  • *FRIEDEN SAYS THERE IS `UNDERSTANDABLE' EBOLA FEAR IN U.S.
  • *FRIEDEN SAYS CDC'S TOP PRIORITY IS TO PROTECT AMERICANS
  • *FRIEDEN SAYS SITUATION IN WEST AFRICA REMAINS `FLUID'
  • *TEXAS HEALTH OFFICIALS WANT HOSPITALS ON `HIGH ALERT' FOR EBOLA
  • *CDC'S FRIEDEN SAYS 2 EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS MAY HELP FIGHT EBOLA

The 'Bad News...

  • *DALLAS OFFICIALS LOOKING FOR MAN WHO MAY HAVE HAD EBOLA CONTACT
  • *DALLAS OFFICIALS SAY MAN IS CONSIDERED `LOW RISK'
  • *FRIEDEN SAYS MISSING PERSON BEING SOUGHT WAS CHECKED YESTERDAY
  • *TEXAS HEALTH COMMISSIONER SAYS MAN BEING SOUGHT IS HOMELESS

And

  • *JENKINS SAY PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT EBOLA SHOULD GET CHECKED
  • *CDC REALIZES U.S. EBOLA PATIENT HAS TAKEN TURN FOR WORSE

As CBC reports,

Officials in Texas are looking for a homeless man who may have had contact with an Ebola patient hospitalized in Dallas. The man, who walked away from a health facility Saturday after having his temperature tested, is considered at low risk.

 

"We have a great place for him to stay and we can attend to his every need. We just need him to be a hero to his community and to come forward," Clay Lewis Jenkins, Dallas County judge, said at a news conference Sunday.

 

Jenkins added that police and other public officials are looking for the man.

 

Health officials say the man, whose name has not been released, may have had contact with Thomas Eric Duncan, the Ebola patient who is now "fighting for his life" after his condition worsened from serious to critical on Saturday.

and - it appears Ebola can spread by more than just direct contact with bodily fluids... (via The Hill)

Frieden acknowledged Thursday that Ebola would pose a risk to the United States until the epidemic stops in West Africa.

 

"The plain truth is that we can't make the risk zero until the outbreak is controlled," he said. ??"What we can do is minimize that risk... by working to ensure that there are no more individuals that will be exposed [here]."

 

??Frieden also said that, in theory, a sneeze or cough could spread the virus from someone experiencing Ebola symptoms. ??Officials had previously downplayed this possibility, focusing on direct contact with bodily fluids. ??

 

"There are certainly theoretical situations where someone sneezes... and you touch your eyes or mouth or nose," and catch the virus from any transmitted particles, he said. "[But] realistically you can say what may be theoretically possible as opposed to what actually happens in the real world," he added.

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But apart from that - "contained"

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Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:24 | 5291034 guessagain
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Don't worry.  It's 'contained.'  The .gov people say so...

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:25 | 5291038 90's Child
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This whole ebola thing should be bullish for mass exodus of illegals to other states right?

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:31 | 5291055 espirit
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Just not safe to go back into the water...

outbreaks.globalincidentmap.com

 

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:40 | 5291086 espirit
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Anybody heard from 'Miffed'?

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:45 | 5291103 The Big Ching-aso
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When ya eat fruit bat from a bush hairy things can happen.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:27 | 5291135 DaddyO
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At the very minimum, these should be in your preps.

DaddyO

edit: Since Mr Frieden down voted me, try these

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:33 | 5291256 Pinto Currency
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What if it is Marburg variant of Ebola virus as claimed last week on the Hannity show and the CDC is covering-up?

 

http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2014/10/02/what-if-it-is-not-ebola-but-a-biowarfare-weapon/

What if the Chinese are now blowing the whistle?

 

Deadly Marburg hemorrhagic fever breaks out in Uganda


http://www.china.org.cn/world/Off_the_Wire/2014-10/05/content_33686011.htm

 

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:40 | 5291289 linniepar
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Weaponized...

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:43 | 5291301 Leonardo Fibonacci2
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CDC = clueless blond bimbo.  I apologize for insulting the blond bimbo!

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:49 | 5291325 BellyBrain
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It's sad to see this website and otherwise normally intelligent people believing in this ebola bullshit.  This is yet another "swine flu" type hoax B.S. in spite of whatever they might have cooked up in their labs.  The punch-line will come soon, once they have fueled enough panic:  LINE UP FOR YOUR EBOLA VACCINES.  Never mind what it'll do to your brain, folks.  You weren't using all those IQ points anyway...

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:58 | 5291361 Tenshin Headache
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I suggest you read a bit more widely. You are ignoring truckloads of information that is freely available.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 15:04 | 5291374 Pinto Currency
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Belly - give it a bit more time.  We are all about to find out either way.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 15:06 | 5291385 NemoDeNovo
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Exactly, we will not fully understand the magnituded of this shit show until at least Mar/Apr 2015 ~ Stay Frosty my friends.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 15:40 | 5291506 disabledvet
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Just clearing out the detritus.

Long Clorox. BTFD.
Or outbreak as it were.

This is easily the most incompetent Government in US history.
And we've had some really bad ones.

The best sure look like the non-existent varietals back in the 1800's.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 16:58 | 5291754 Pinto Currency
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It would be interesting to find out more about how this homeless person got a ride in the ambulance.

Ambulances are not in the habit of giving a lift to others. 

The circumstances of this free ride may be of note.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 17:15 | 5291831 COSMOS
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I have said it before.  Its not just aerosilized Ebola but keep in mind that RNA viruses like Yellow Fever and Dengue are transmitted by mosquitoes.  No problem for viruses to go up and back down the proboscis of a mosquito at a later time with another blood meal.  Also what about those big nasty flies landing on secretions and then flying out the window, cruising a few miles on the wind and landing on your picnic food.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 17:25 | 5291841 Pinto Currency
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Pretty low odds of that.

 

Someone else went long Clorox in June 2014:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-02/icahn-clorox-bid-probe-said-to-...

Perhaps he just had a lucky feeling about bleach.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 19:07 | 5292133 willwork4food
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Cosmos is right, but much closer than a few miles. All it takes is a few garbage flies to land on some of that Dallas apartment vomit and run over to Jerome's 7/11 pizza with everthing on it while he's downing a few MD 20/20s.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 19:15 | 5292170 Pinto Currency
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Let's see.

The root issue seems to be why have 300+ doctors and nurses, taking CDC recommended precautions, died in Africa this Ebola outbreak.  If that is true, then what is different about this outbreak?

The CDC looks to be completely corrupt (surprise!) - good luck to them to get everyone to take a vaccine shot from them.

The autism / MMR whistleblower is the tip of the iceberg.

This ebola issue looks to be a crucial matter, although as said above, we'll see.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 20:37 | 5292470 7.62x54r
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Hobos with Ebola!

Good luck rounding him up.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 18:57 | 5292102 VAD
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They are not incompetent or stupid.  They know exactly what they're doing (or being told to do) and they know what the consequences are.  TPTB are evil, criminal sociopaths.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 20:43 | 5292497 Socratic Dog
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"TPTB are evil, criminal, incompetent sociopaths"

Fixed.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 16:13 | 5291618 data_monkey
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Where's the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation when you need them?

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 19:25 | 5292204 Government need...
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Carrying water for the CIA via cooking up another bogus innoculation drive (really DNA testing) in a town where a high-value turrist is suspected of hiding out.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 22:11 | 5292798 Socratic Dog
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That Marburg link claims this is biowarfare by the Russkies.

I'd be more concerned about biowarfare against us by our own government.  No need for Putin to get involved, he can just sit back with a beer and watch the entertainment.

Hannity, btw, buys into the official line on 9/11.  No credibility.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 07:00 | 5293528 omniversling
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A 'join the dots' on the discrepancies in the PANDEMANOIA meme. Take it or leave it, but worth a read:

http://truthsector.net/2014/09/20/final-nails-in-the-ebola-scam-coffin-t...

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:50 | 5291330 WTFRLY
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Uganda: Patient dies from Marburg, hemorrhagic fever virus similar to Ebola, 80 monitored
http://wtfrly.com/2014/10/05/uganda-patient-dies-from-marburg-hemorrhagi...

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:54 | 5291344 FredFlintstone
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Full out CIA biowarfare?

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 15:08 | 5291381 NemoDeNovo
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Sounds nice but I'm leaning more to nature is just restoring Balance.

 

Nature always finds a way.............

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 16:17 | 5291572 DaddyO
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Think of it this way...

The CIA may have created a weaponized bug, but Nature always fills the void.

Nature abhorrs a vacuum and the CIA and the USSA .gov are a big vacuum.

Standby for the thunderclap as Nature fills the unavoidable vacuum.

DaddyO

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 18:27 | 5292013 espirit
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Yeah, MOTHER NATURE is pissed, or whatever other Demigod you believe in.

 

Long survival skills, antibiotics, and Alice isolation.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 20:19 | 5292392 FredFlintstone
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Sounds like something Jeff Goldblum might have said in one of the Jurassic Park Movies.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 19:01 | 5292114 James
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DaddyO - I lost my father three years ago to Mesothelioma. Those masks have been proven to cause it. He wore them while in the construction biz. A wrongful death suit was filed and settlements are being paid.

FAIL

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 00:19 | 5293212 Daddio7
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Couldn't resist replying. I like the statement from Amazon at the end of the product description, "Be prepared". I will see how good the ones at Home Depot are tomorrow. I will put them in with my latest shipment from Augaston Farms.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:50 | 5291149 mjcOH1
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"When ya eat fruit bat from a bush hairy things can happen."

 

When you eat fruity hairy bush, batty things can happen.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:53 | 5291128 Things that go bump
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Consensus of opinion is that she's bugged out already.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 18:30 | 5292022 espirit
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Still want her opinion, even so.

 

Just verification she's not conscripted.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:54 | 5291131 kaiserhoff
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She's fine.  Posted on the thread just below about Cali.

I think she's about to bug out.  Wouldn't you;)

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:03 | 5291152 chunga
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We bugged out over a year ago.

Here's a picture of the guy the dopes are looking for.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-outbreak-homeless-man-exposed-in-dalla...

I'm not too interested in football anymore but I wonder how the attendence is at the cowboys game.

edit: the first guy duncan is dead as reported in the....Israel National News.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/305795#.VDGHJBbLLRj

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:06 | 5291165 STG5IVE
Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:23 | 5291212 LetThemEatRand
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"edit: the first guy duncan is dead as reported in the....Israel National News."

Isreal National News has the scoop on the condition of patient zero.  How quaint.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:38 | 5291283 chunga
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I'm going to drive around on my tractor out in the woods. Drinking beer and knocking things down is fun.

Israel snubs Obama plea for personnel in Ebola zone
http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/israel-snubs-obama-plea-for-personnel-in-ebol...
'No feasible way to provide for the safety of Israeli doctors and medical crews'


 

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:56 | 5291356 TruthInSunshine
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Why?

It's not easily transmissible according to Israel Firster, dual citizen (Israel-U.S.) CDC Chief Tom Frieden.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 19:26 | 5292212 Government need...
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As corroborated by the Isrealis, CONTANED (at least as well as a corpse in a casket).

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 17:05 | 5291806 OldPhart
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Israeli news references a Reuters article.  I didn't find such article in Reuters, only that ebola-man is fighting for his life at present.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 17:28 | 5291872 chunga
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Good catch.

That's interesting.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:59 | 5291150 sushi
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She has a post in the California drought thread so still chugging away.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 19:30 | 5292222 Miffed Microbio...
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Sorry, some frantic last minute prepping has taken precedence . I've got 15 meat chickens and a forty pound turkey that needs processing. My work exit is in the planning stages. Plan B is being fleshed out. I wish I could replicate at the speed of Ebola.

I had a scratchy throat this morning and felt a bit lethargic. I looked into the mirror at work to see red eyes. Damn near soiled myself in panic. Of course I didn't consider the all day work in 97 deg heat, the half a bottle of Syrah and the after dinner absinthe had anything to do with it. Reptilian brain always trumps the rational brain.

Miffed

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 21:36 | 5292651 Flagit
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Miffed, if you walk away to take a bathroom break, a few posters here start freaking out.

I think its time for you to become a contribituter. We will have your article front and center at the top of the page.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 21:55 | 5292734 Miffed Microbio...
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Tell you what. If Tyler would eliminate all the annoying pop ups on my iPad ( Adblock doesn't work for me, too many crashes and dbl posts) I'd consent to the proposal. However, what I say here could cost me my job. Why do I always underbid myself.

Miffed

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 22:29 | 5292857 Flagit
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I dont use an Ipad, but I did find this thread. Might be helpful.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5516632?start=0&tstart=0

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 22:20 | 5292825 chunga
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Do we know how true or accurate this ebola business is? Most of what gets reported in general, is bogus. There are all different theories about the potential danger and response. What we can say with certainty is that the so called authorities said what they said and did what they did.

From what I can tell, as an average person, is that the preparation and response has been nothing short of a debacle. We're told, in hte midst of a pandemic frenzy, patient zero from Liberia wanders in all sick and is sent on his way with a course of antibiotics. Belaboring the pressure washing and all the other crap that's been going on isn't really necesary ,yes we know. It's absurd.

You're going toes in on this, so I may like to suggest that I hope you and Mr. Miffed run your thoughts and plans by people you trust. We'll all have to make decisions I belive none of us planned on I don't know what to do so I hope you do the best you can and hear out what people you knownd trust say.. That's it.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:43 | 5291096 chunga
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When Frieden is done at CDC he'll wind up as Fed chairman or mayor of Amity.

Health officials: 'Extremely unlikely' Kansas City patient has Ebola

KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -

The Kansas City Health Department said they are monitoring and keeping a close eye on a patient who may have contracted a contagious virus.

Spokesman Jeff Hershberger said it is extremely unlikely that this person has Ebola because of their travel history and lack of symptoms. It is unknown at this time what the patient is suffering from or if anyone else is sick.

Read more: http://www.kctv5.com/story/26707306/kansas-city-apartment-sealed-off-aft...
Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:44 | 5291312 Kirk2NCC1701
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Damn you, Frieden!  As posted by Yours Truly last week...  I already warned you that it can be "Air Borne"

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 16:08 | 5281653 Kirk2NCC1701  

 

These CDC careerist fucks have clearly failed Thermodynamics -- if they ever had the course -- because AIR IS A FLUID.

As long as there are airborne things (dust, pollen, atomized water droplets, etc, etc), for the Virus to cling to, it gets a FREE RIDE, and will then cling to whatever surface it can -- you dumb-ass Muthafuckers.

There are days that I swear that Medical Schools should not allow anyone into their MD program, until their prospects have a full degree (BS or MS) in Physics & Chemistry.  You won't believe how many MDs I know, who are smart and dumb at the same time.  Many remind me of an Idiot Savant.

It feels like we're living an episode of THE STRAIN.  Government scum!

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 15:41 | 5291517 disabledvet
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Did someone say airborne?

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 16:06 | 5291587 xcehn
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They can only get so many miles out of the direct contact gig. This explains the gear shift.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 16:10 | 5291605 CoonT
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I blame "specialization."

 

Now, instead of having those who are generally referred to as "the sharp tacks" people have opted for being either: Educated, smart or intelligent; and have given up on trying to be a healty mix of all 3.

 

Educated: Spending $140 000.00 and eight years of your life, having your head crammed full of information and being thoroughly "schooled" on your topic of choice.

 

Smart: The guy who gets the commission for all those $90k-limit credit cards, getting passed out to those "educated" suckers the moment they walk out of their grad ceremony.

 

Intelligent: The guy who sits back and points it out.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 19:29 | 5292215 Uber Vandal
Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:37 | 5291081 freewolf7
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The gov can administer Ebola to its citizenry anytime they want. There are many ways to do this.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:26 | 5291043 Pooper Popper
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"Dallas officials are looking for a missing homeless man who may have Ebola contact"

How in the hell does a homeless guy get ebola???

We have traitors in the wire people!

 

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:33 | 5291059 90's Child
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The homeless man probably just went down to one of the many lakes that supply Dallas with their water "to cool" off.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:34 | 5291064 ss123
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Touching the sidewalk that had the vomit on it?

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:09 | 5291159 duo
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Turns out that he "Shared the ambulance with Duncan".  My wife seems to think he was in the ambulance right after Duncan.  WTH was a homeless man doing in an ambulance with Duncan, if this is true?

Trying to find out which story is right.

"This shit will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 15:15 | 5291353 Urban Redneck
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The homeless (particularly those who also have mental issues) are often frequent fliers on the EMT express, and make up a surprisingly large % of total transports.

Just something to think about the next time you think you want an ambulance to come take you to the nearest hospital.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 18:25 | 5292008 BeansMcGreens
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Yep thats right. In my neck of the woods a cetain racial group uses them like taxies, though not quite as bad as they did in the eighties.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 19:29 | 5292218 Government need...
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Those damn Swedes!

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:07 | 5291166 MsCreant
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People who came into contact with him one of the times that he was in the ER?

 

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:26 | 5291233 Son of Loki
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The Homeless guy probably hasn't checked his stawk portfolio for years and doesn't realize we're in a "Robust Rekovery."

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 15:07 | 5291388 bbq on whitehou...
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Well now he doesnt need them he has a million dollar disease and he can sell it to the highest bidder.
Get Goldman on the line how much for this bio-weapon.
How much will bloom give me to keep it out of NYC.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:08 | 5291170 ebworthen
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guessagain said:  "Don't worry.  It's 'contained.'  The .gov people say so..."

Yeah, and Hepatitis C and HIV are "contained" too.  *cough*

A suit and a degree can't protect anyone from a virus.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 15:08 | 5291392 tempo
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doubling every 15-21 days is only due to poor health care systems? I hope so.  We will find out before Christmas!!

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 16:06 | 5291590 Bokkenrijder
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"Almost airborne?"

Jezus, this website is becoming more and more like the National Enquirer. Guess what? My girlfiriend was ALMOST pregnant last nigh, but not quite because she's on the pill and I was wearing a condom!

Everything is always "almost" a disaster here. Pfff, please ZH, be careful not to lose credibility by crying "wolf" at everything that crosses your path.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 16:33 | 5291686 MsCreant
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Read the fucking headline troll:

Dallas Officials Looking For Missing "Low Risk" Potential Ebola Patient As CDC 'Almost' Admit Ebola Is Airborne

Here is how this works, the word 'Almost' appears in front of the word Admit. That means they Almost Admit. The almost does not modify the word Airborne.

You know what, you are either too ignorant to understand my post or you are deliberately misunderstanding this because it is about something else.

FUCK YOU.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 17:47 | 5291895 Bokkenrijder
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No I'm NOT too ignorant as I occasionally read a tabloid (at the barbershop of course!) for a good laugh and some gossip! ;-)

Anyway, I seem to have hit a nerve here, and your violent outcry and frequent use to the word "fuck" only confirms that you merely want to 'score' with some snappy headlines, and not because of content! That's because you HAVE no content and because there WAS no content.

The only real 'content' was the suggestive headline. NEXT!

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 18:09 | 5291949 Earl Slaughter-...
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Bokken--  maybe you have a point, but you're coming across as a conceded shit (given, if English isn't your first language "tone" can be difficult to measure, and I understand that).  MSM lies tend to be somewhat subtle, hidden within our language, often as "what isn't said". It may help if you try to to think in allogories and analogies, worry less about precisely articulating a statement than conveying understanding.

 

Unless you really are a total dick, for real. 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 01:43 | 5293334 trader1
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you don't need to have credibility to capture audiences and influence them.

you typically play on human psychology, predominantly fear or base desires.

 

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 19:14 | 5292165 junction
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What a difference two months make, CBC-wise.  I wonder if I was the first to mention "cordon sanitaire" in relation to Ebola in an Internet posting.  No matter, if we are all going to die, except for those billionaires 100 miles offshore in their mega-yachts.

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Fri, 08/01/2014 - 17:02 | 5034870 junction
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-01/drought-goes-bad-catastrophic

Legalize hopium!

----
On the Ebola newsfront: Yesterday, July 31, 2014, NBC Nightly News' Dr. Nancy Snyderman was reporting on the Ebola virus and what a change in her attitude from a few days ago when she said there was nothing to worry about.  No more happy talk about how the virus is isolated in western Africa.  The same Snyderman who after the Fukushima Daiichi reactor meltdowns said on March 16, 2011 or thereabout that the USA has nothing to worry about from fallout from the plumes of radioactive isotopes streaming from the busted reactors.  Remember on September 18, 2001 when EPA Administrator Christine Todd Whitman gave the all-clear around Ground Zero, stating that the EPA had found no bio hazard in downtown Manhattan even as smoke and toxic debris continued to vent into the air from the WTC site?  Also on NBC Nightly News was CDC Director Thomas Friden stating that you cannot catch Ebola from just casual contact, you have to be exposed to bodily fluids.  Sneezes apparently don't count.  The level of misinformation on this news show about Ebola hemorrhagic fever was mind boggling.  Snyderman's report closed with news on an appeal being made for medical professionals to deal with the outbreak.  In other words, don't quarantine the Ebola area, creating a cordon sanitaire.  Instead of road blocks, send in more doctors in spacesuits to be infected.  Incompetence and happy talk rule the nightly network news, bastions of misinformation if not outright lies.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 23:33 | 5293091 Buck Johnson
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It keeps getting worse and worse, like pulling teeth.

 

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:27 | 5291040 saints51
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Was this the guy with the pressure washer? Look for the vehicle without a license plate as pointed out by the keen eye of ZH members.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:27 | 5291047 duo
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It seems that the homeless man was transported in the same ambulance, right after Duncan was.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:42 | 5291090 Decolat
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Hope he's not getting paid to lick handrails and puke in shopping malls etc.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:49 | 5291328 Tenshin Headache
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And he is considered low risk. Ha.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:30 | 5291052 ss123
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Now Marburg starting up in Uganda too.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:34 | 5291070 Decolat
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Link? If so, how can this all not be by design?

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:56 | 5291146 Decolat
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Got it.

http://wtaq.com/news/articles/2014/oct/05/outbreak-of-ebola-like-marburg...

And most in quarantine are health workers. Ffs

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:43 | 5291297 Kirk2NCC1701
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If true, then this is not a mathematical "coincidence".   This then has the earmarks of a super-power with bio-weapon experience, doing this deliberately.  Either than, or a renegade group within is doing it.

Candidates that meet these criteria:  US, Russia, China, Israel.  NO other country has Ebola + Marburg in their labs.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 16:12 | 5291616 Decolat
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That's exactly what I'm saying. So. Is this the week to either stop or start sniffing glue?

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:32 | 5291056 _ConanTheLibert...
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May I again refer to this thread on GPL and PLEASE don't vote me down just because I refer to GPL. This is actually an excellent thread. Read first ok. Thanks.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 16:29 | 5291682 _ConanTheLibert...
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Up yours!

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:33 | 5291062 Infinite QE
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Rendition Frieden to Gitmo immediately. Water boarding will get the truth out.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:14 | 5291188 Cthonic
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No, just threaten to put his 'boots on the ground' in Monrovia, Freeport, and Kenema until the outbreak there is  'contained'.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:34 | 5291069 skbull44
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And even if this particular bullet is dodged, it's all just a plane ride away from starting all over again...

 

http://olduvai.ca

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:36 | 5291075 espirit
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My NP daughter has informed that 'airborne' such as TB, is much different than 'aerosolized'.

 

 

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:23 | 5291211 I Write Code
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Yeah, all the medical bigwigs agree, the only problem is, it ain't all that different after all.

So you have to be within about ten feet instead of a hundred feet for direct infection, yet stuff like ebola may remain potent on "fomites" longer than an "airborne" disease might.  Comes to the same damn thing.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 22:27 | 5292851 Socratic Dog
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"Your NP daughter".

The ones who uncritically buy into the party line are the ones to be afraid of.  They will kill us all.  If not this time, then next time.  Unfortunately most in government and healthcare qualify.

Fascism in the US has lead to generations of people with absolutely zero powers of analysis.  They know what their professors told them, and what the "authorities" tell them.  Nothing else.

Blind Freddie can see that CDC guidelines are not stopping experienced people from getting infected.  So wouldn't it be prudent to go beyond those guidelines?

Apparently not, according to "my NP daughter" and her ilk,

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:25 | 5291215 bbq on whitehou...
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Ok fun question: If someone with ebola vomited in an elevador would she use or the stairs?
What it it was cleaned up with a pressure washer? or mop and bucket? How long would she wait untill she thought it was safe?

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:00 | 5291076 a common man
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I have read all the comments on all the threads about this subject and thank evryone for their contributions. The only thing I think I can add to the debate about the level of contaigen is that we have a real test tube situation in Dallas at the Ivy Apartments. With the level of know contamination, and strong interest in who else may be infected, we should get some answeres to all of these questions in the next two weeks as we monitor those who have been in in contact with Thomas Eric Duncan, If cases occcur in other areas, we could expect a similar progression to what we observe in Dallas. Of courese, it could start to emerge in the next few days.

  • Oct. 2 — State health officials announce they are looking at roughly 100 people who may have had contact with Duncan or his relatives. State health officials order Duncan's family to stay home and bar visitors, unless health workers give their approval, until Oct. 19. Texas Health Presbyterian says an electronic health record flaw kept a physician from seeing that Duncan had recently traveled from Liberia, leading the hospital to initially send him home. Duncan is listed in serious condition by the hospital.
  • Oct. 3 — About 50 contacts of Duncan are being watched closely for Ebola signs and 10 are considered at high risk, the CDC says, narrowing down the initial watch list from
Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:43 | 5291308 Tenshin Headache
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The hospital has since retracted the bullshit about the electronic health record. The doctor had everything in his "workflow."

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 19:32 | 5292231 Government need...
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Holding my breath for the bloomberg propaganda office to retract its special report on the need for more EMR.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 22:31 | 5292877 Socratic Dog
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EMR IS a problem.  It stifles initiative. It takes priority over caring for the patient.  It is frequently as crappy, archaic software as you could dream of existing.  Meditech is unbelievably awful to use.

Trying to use it will kill patients and providers.  If you're down with ebola, you better hope you have nurses with the balls to say "fuck the EMR".

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:46 | 5291077 a common man
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dupelicate post

 

 

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:39 | 5291083 Exponere Mendaces
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Its hard to read this article over the loud fapping noise coming from all the preppers in their bunkers. But knowing ZH's track record with calling things, we'll see a few vitcims die and then it will burn out here, instead of the massive pandemic that they're all rooting for.

Or maybe a few scare articles per month about how ebola hasn't truly gone away, and we should be digging straight down to China to save ourselves. On a positive note, all the people "bugging out" should clear the forums for a while, so there is that.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:44 | 5291099 espirit
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Well, we could always rag on the outbreaks of Hantavirus, BP, Chickungunya, EEE, and Enterovirus D68.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:06 | 5291167 gwar5
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Dewd, it's not the fear of dying from Ebola, it's the impact and new invasive US government and foregin government policies that are going to be coming down the pike. Your eyes are wide shut, I don't think you've thought this through.

 

Look at the massive costs and burdens associated with just this case in Dallas, and the other "suspected cases" in a few other places. 

Intensive care = intensives costs, and that doesn't even include tracking down and quarantining everybody the Dallas guy came into contact, and then repeating this again and again for each layer of contacts.  

The impact on travel and the overall impact on the economy could be massive if just a few hundred cases, or suspected cases, are found and all their 100s of contacts have to be quarantiined for 21 days.

What if a food worker at McDonalds gets Ebola?  What if foreign countries decide they will not accept people flying from Dallas, or DC, or Utah -- or the US?

This could easily get way out of hand.

 

 

 

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:22 | 5291203 hedgeless_horseman
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Look at the massive costs and burdens associated with just this case in
Dallas, and the other "suspected cases" in a few other places.

Exactly.  Are they going to quarantine everyone with some or all of the flu symptoms? 

 

Signs and symptoms of flu

People who have the flu often feel some or all of these signs and symptoms:

  • Fever* or feeling feverish/chills
  • Cough
  • Sore throat
  • Runny or stuffy nose
  • Muscle or body aches
  • Headaches
  • Fatigue (very tired)
  • Some people may have vomiting and diarrhea, though this is more common in children than adults.

 

Symptoms of Ebola include

  • Fever (greater than 38.6°C or 101.5°F)
  • Severe headache
  • Muscle pain
  • Weakness
  • Diarrhea
  • Vomiting
  • Abdominal (stomach) pain
  • Unexplained hemorrhage (bleeding or bruising)

 

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:42 | 5291296 graftvshost
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Quote: Look at the massive costs and burdens associated with just this case in Dallas, and the other "suspected cases" in a few other places. 

 

That's totally it.  Once the first non- West African, non-liberian Ebola patients start showing up at hospital(s), EVERYBODY in that area presenting with any kind of flu-like symptoms will have to be treated like a potential highly contagious Ebola pt. until labs come back.  No hospital is prepared for that, financially or otherwise.  One Ebola pt. in Nigeria and they had to follow almost a thousand people for symptoms.  Exponential out the wazoo.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 18:14 | 5291968 Earl Slaughter-...
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The "Ebola-trade" could become even more luctritive than the "arms-trade". I think that your question is, "is it right to benefit?"

 

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:40 | 5291087 Suisse
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If Ebola is less contagious than HIV, why are so many healthcare workers contracting it?

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:58 | 5291148 yogibear
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People were not wearing hazmat suits and still contracting the Disease.

Something with this doesn't pass the smell test.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:05 | 5291160 mjcOH1
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"If Ebola is less contagious than HIV, why are so many healthcare workers contracting it?"

Because it's not less contagious than HIV?   What do I win?

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:15 | 5291193 gwar5
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American workers got it and they wore suits and knew the precautions to take. They didn't think it was airborne either.

 

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:05 | 5291164 sushi
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If Ebola is less contagious than HIV, why are so many healthcare workers contracting it?

 

Handjobs

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 15:40 | 5291505 pupdog1
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Then the CDC must, with greate haste, develop a hazmat handjob policies and procedures manual.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 20:07 | 5292346 Things that go bump
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That nobody will read.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 21:49 | 5292701 MsCreant
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Make it pr0n and at least teh SEC will read it.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 18:21 | 5291992 Earl Slaughter-...
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Why? Why? One-on-one, dripping, panting, breathless and bathed with sweat; squirming, pushing, tugging and clawing at you in the moist heat; nipping at the neck, a tongue caressing the hot saltiness and a moan... Love, man! It's about love! Not a "happy-ending" from the rub-and-tug!

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 19:35 | 5292241 Government need...
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I was 2 sentences away from blowing my wad after reading your post.  If only you had mentioned 'tickling my scrote'

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 19:43 | 5292263 willwork4food
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Your future as an accomplished author has begun.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 20:37 | 5292471 pupdog1
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Golden Retrievers should sleep on the floor.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:14 | 5291191 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Probably using old data, but I woudn't be surprised if they're just making it up.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 15:12 | 5291412 Urban Redneck
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It's not less contagious. Ian Bremmer should have his teaching credentials at NYU revoked.

Equating r0 with how easily transmissible a disease is incorrect.

r0 doesn't take into account - time. So if HIV generally takes a few years to kill the host, and your local HIV+ queer is going to bath house every weekend... the number of people he can infect before he expires is astronomical, then again we don't have data for ebola zombies at AT&T stadium or the NYC subway (but they only have roughly a 21-day window to ramp r0, before they recover or die, plus another 3-months via semen if they happen to live).

WTF is it with ebola bringing out the high school level stupidity in people with advanced degrees???

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:42 | 5291091 ebworthen
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Sign the petition, if for no other reason than to give these clueless dunderheads a wake up call:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/have-faa-ban-all-incoming-and-outgoing-flights-ebola-stricken-countries-until-ebola-outbreak/FFJHH9yX

(link opens in new window/tab)

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:42 | 5291094 pupdog1
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By keeping these airline flights to the US open, CDC Director Friden exposes all Americans to ongoing or future mutations of the virus, which might be far worse than the current form (for example, taking longer to kill the host and longer for the host to exhibit symptoms, according to the discoverer of Ebola).

He is also not accounting for the tens of thousands of fruitbat primatives who have the price of a plane ticket, realize they can get no treatment in Africa due to the saturated health system, and have no trouble lying their way over here for treatment, irregardless of the risk to America.

I say we force them to be quarantined in Friden's fucking living room for 21 days. After all, he's the one who tells us that it's all but impossible to contract Ebola.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:46 | 5291108 espirit
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Quarantine them in D.C.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:45 | 5291104 q99x2
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Yep anti-globalist miss of never letting a crisis go to waste.

Oh well. We tried.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:48 | 5291110 hairball48
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What was "homeless" man doing anywhere near this guy who was hospitalized?

Or is this just a "bullshit story" to explain how Ebola will spread in Texas?

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:53 | 5291342 bbq on whitehou...
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We will know the answer before Holloween. Trick or Treat.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 02:02 | 5293348 kumquatsunite
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He was the next person to be in the ambulance that carried Duncan to the hospital:

Michael Lively (left) who was the first person to ride in the ambulance that carried Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan to Presbyterian Hospital, Texas. It is possible that Lively came into contact with Duncan's Ebola-infected bodily fluids during that ride. Lively, who is not showing any symptoms of the disease, had been under observation when he wandered off. Right: A hazmat crew sanitizes the Dallas apartment where U.S. Ebola patient zero stayed before being taken to the hospital.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

DailyMail.co.uk is usually a very good source of information; they have tons of reporters and do the kind of digging we don't see in America anymore.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:48 | 5291114 Milton Freewater
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This has been handled so poorly. When do the marx brothers come in?

 Are we supposed to think this is accidental? 

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:08 | 5291162 hairball48
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dup post :( sorry

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:26 | 5291224 o.t.p.s
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Isnt that always the case, gubmints with their infinitive wishdumb deside every posible protocol you can think of........better off without them.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:59 | 5291364 bbq on whitehou...
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The problem with tyranny is people under it dont care and only do what they are graded on.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 23:10 | 5293020 StychoKiller
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Same as it ever was:

"On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr.
Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers
come out?'  I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas
that could provoke such a question." -- Charles Babbage

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:06 | 5291168 hairball48
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I worked in health care, a very well regarded peds hospital, for 28 years. I'm not surprised at  the incompetence that's been displayed during this eBola outbreak. Hospitals are one of the most bureaucratic organizations on the planet. We had REAMS of "Policies and Procedures"...but most were never even read by anyone, let alone "enforced". Combined with the "dumbing down of Amerika" .....

I'm utterly convinced this eBola outbreak is only just beginning here in Amerika.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 15:47 | 5291536 Blankenstein
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It doesn't help that they have been overlyregulated by the government for so long.  Instead of true experts writing the policies, clueless government morons like Frieden do.  

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 18:33 | 5292032 Earl Slaughter-...
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I feel ya-- I worked as a "clinician" in Psych., same bullshit (it was almost all bullshit in search of a justification-- "how do we get paid?"). In reality, I was a leg-breaker for the Medicad Mafia: "You are fucked-up, you agree that you're fucked-up, or else you will be fucked-up--you volunteer for treatment and meds or else you're delusional and you will be court-ordered, committed, treated and put on meds.

The "dumbing-down" and "incompetence" that you mention are self-perpetuating.

God-bless, my friend.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 01:58 | 5293345 kumquatsunite
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I've been reading articles on the Liberian communities here in America; in the last few years they've let in more than 100,000 and virtually every article talked about them working as home health care workers or in hospitals. Kinda weird...

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 15:02 | 5291372 pupdog1
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Horray for Captain Friden, the African explorer...

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:50 | 5291120 TabakLover
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So, the CDC is in charge of the situation in Nigeria?   Do we have to be in charge of frigg'n EVERYTHING?!

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:56 | 5291136 Said In CONTEXT
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Lt.-- "Billy you know something..."

Sgt. --BILLY! what is it?

Billy.--I'm scared sarge...

Lt.--Billy,you ain"t afraid of no man..

Billy.--Maybe so.....But what"s out there ain't no man...we're all gonna die....

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:58 | 5291144 Yen Cross
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  The man, who walked away from a health facility Saturday after having his temperature tested, is considered at low risk.

 

"We have a great place for him to stay and we can attend to his every need. We just need him to be a hero to his community and to come forward."

  lol. Here, just step into this nice warm shower, and you'll feel right at home. You're buddies are right outside digging a garden.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 15:03 | 5291377 bbq on whitehou...
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They dont even try to hide the fact they think people are animals. Oh, is he a lost puppy now.
If they treated people like proper adults maybe there would be more of them. No now your a dog to be locked up.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 16:42 | 5291656 nuke ISIS now
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Seriously?, that statement sounds almost just like Josef Mengele telling folks to just take a "shower" to "clean up"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

"I think we exterminated some folks Michelle"

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 13:57 | 5291147 Count Laszlo
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Nigeria will be officially declared free of Ebola on Oct. 20th.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:04 | 5291161 homiegot
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Maybe Nigeria should be running the show over here. They clearly have a handle on this.

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 16:44 | 5291733 Monty Burns
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More likely a handle on the statistics.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 01:56 | 5293343 kumquatsunite
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These guys really like to celebrate way too early; like they are saying no one else in America has come down with the disease...Counting days for the woman who was living there and yet they seem to get very excited way too early...

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:04 | 5291158 STG5IVE
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WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sun, 10/05/2014 - 14:30 | 5291234 bbq on whitehou...
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Yes but after that im told you dont really mind as much about ebola.

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