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OccupyCentral Protesters End Government Building Blockade After Hong Kong Police Unleash Tear Gas, Pepper Spray "To Avoid Injuries"
UPDATE: According to the latest feed from OccupyCentral, protesters are refusing to leave the Lung Wo Road government building blockade...
Protesters in Lung Wo Rd are returning to the Chief Exec's office despite earlier announcement some were leaving pic.twitter.com/YMkBQQCLfb
— Occupy Central ???? (@OCLPHK) October 5, 2014
After a night of 'some' discussions and a re-escalation of violence - which saw police use tear gas and pepper spray (in their words avoiding the use of batons and "reducing injuries"), OccupyCentral protesters have decided to leave the area outside the Hong Kong office of Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying in Mong Kok. Protesters are reportedly moving back towards the Admiralty site where thousands remain ahead of tomorrow's deadline ultimatum from the HK leader. Officials are in full court press PR mode, explaining on every TV channel and media outlet just how significant the disruptions will be on Monday to the general public (notably the older generation as 95% of OccupyCentral protesters are between 15 and 25). Protest leaders have agreed to continue dialog with the government if protest sites are protected and while tomorrow's deadline may see more escalation (in the name of public order), as The Telegraph notes, given the age of the protesters, Hong Kong could face decades of protests.
Occupy Central's official Twitter feed appears to show the protesters agreeing to leave the government building blockade
- *OCCUPY CENTRAL SUPPORTERS DECIDE TO LEAVE GOVT OFFICE BUILDING
*OCCUPY CENTRAL SUPPORTERS TO LEAVE MONG KOK FOR ADMIRALTY SITE
Police outside Ch. Exec office thank protesters for leaving Lung Wo Rd & joining those in Admiralty. pic.twitter.com/AjFDSc0rNu
— Occupy Central ???? (@OCLPHK) October 5, 2014
This follows a night of violence...
There were ~6 cases of scuffling in Hong Kong’s Mong Kok area, Senior Superintendent Kwok Pak-chung says to reporters.
- Police to use appropriate force if protesters charge cordon: Kwok
- Police has zero tolerance of violence: Kwok
- *HONG KONG POLICE APPEAL TO CROWD TO DISPERSE IN MONG KOK
- *H.K. POLICE SAY WON'T TOLERATE ACTS ENDANGERING PUBLIC ORDER
And then...
- *HK POLICE USED PEPPER SPRAY IN MONG KOK CROWD CONTROL: CABLE TV
Police spray an elderly Chinese resident in the face at point blank range..
- *H.K. POLICE COMMANDER ORDERED TEAR GAS TO PREVENT INJURIES: SMP
Police used tear gas on demonstrators to prevent possible stampede that might’ve caused injuries or deaths, the Sunday Morning Post reports, citing the senior superintendent who gave the order.
- Name of officer withheld at request of police
- Officer said order given without political motive, HK Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying not notified
- Order given as about 200 protestors sought to break through police cordon
- Tear gas used as alternative to baton attack, which may have led to many injuries
- Officer has no regrets, would make same decision again under same circumstances
Officials are concentrating their effort on swaying thehearts and minds of the non-youth in Hong Kong by explainingjust how bad disruptions will be of tomorrow's deadline passes...
- *H.K. PROTESTS DELAYING EMERGENCY SERVICES, OFFICIALS SAY
- *H.K. FIRE TRUCKS 30 SECONDS-3 MINUTES SLOWER: FIRE OFFICIAL
- *HK ROAD BLOCKAGE COULD CAUSE SEVERE CONSEQUENCES: OFFICIAL
- *H.K., KOWLOON TRAFFIC EXPECTED TO BE SEVERE TOMORROW: GOVT.
- *28 BUS ROUTES SUSPENDED, 200 REDIRECTED IF BLOCKAGES REMAIN: SU
But, as The Telegraph notes, Hong Kong could face decades of protests...
Hong Kong faces decades of unrest unless China allows real democratic reforms, one of its leading politicians warned, as mass protests continued to lock down the city.
"Almost 95 per cent of the crowd that has gathered every night for seven nights is between 15 to 25 years old," said Alan Leong, 56, the leader of the pro-democratic Civic party.
"These people will be around for a long time. They will be masters of Hong Kong for the next 40 to 50 years.
"I challenge Xi Jinping (the Chinese president) to answer this question: even if you bring your weight to bear and somehow get your proposal passed, how are you going to govern Hong Kong when this is your public for the next five decades?"
For now the protests rank high on pro-democracy demands but on the low-side of participation (acording to The Economist)
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But it's the weekend so we end on an upbeat note...
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Umbrellas will now be required to have a kill switch in the USSA
"HK could face decades of protests noted The Telegraph"
Thank you for that politically contrived message from our corporate psyops media sponsor. Because undermining China and Russia for their audacity in abandoning the sacrosanct PetroDollar is the gravest of financial sins.
Reminds me of what Americans used to be in 1776.
Now if I don't buy the State's mandated services I have to pay a fine....WTF is that all about? Do they have to buy healthcare in Hong Kong?
...One Hundred Million Young Americans, 15 - 35 watching Hong Kong protest intently.
Can USSA Charge/Arrest/Jail 100 million citizens?
LMFAO
100 million young Americans watching "The Voice" and pro sports every week and bumping along to "shake it off" and "I'm so fancy" more like it!!!
I would be stunned if 1 out of 100 "young Americans" could find HK on a map with no writing on it and 25 out of 100 WITH the name Hong Kong printed on it!!
Exactly. That's the glorious future of dumbed down democracy that the West envisions for HK. The right to choose to check the box of the Donkey corporate shill or of Elephant corporate shill. And while real political alternatives are non existant, the options for televised corporate banality are unlimited.
There's not a dimes worth of difference between China's flavor of authoritarian crony fascism and America's flavor of democratic authoritarian crony fascism.
The only difference is in the true believers themselves.
Where's Ebola when you need it? One confirmed case in HK and watch the protestors melt away like a snowflake in a furnace.
BTW, USSA fascism would be even worse for HK than Chinese authoritarianism. The USSA would asset strip HK to support the Fed Reserve Notes, and turn the HK'ers into 3rd world debt serfs whereas the Chinese government would maintain the status quo since it makes money off HK.
Hong Kong Protest: Another CIA-Coordinated ‘Revolution’ In The Making
Nice of the Economist not to include any USA protests like Occupy etc, or the Bundy Ranch etc on that graphic. No problems here folks, all the dissatisfied folks are not Americanos.
no there's a huge difference.
the u.s. government has a population that has lots of guns and feels entitled to read site like zerohedge on the internet.
you simply are not allowed to have guns ...or the right to use the internet in any meaningful way.
as brainwashed as americans are, the chinese are far more brainwashed. and the ones that are or aren't , simply are not allowed to have guns. they have almost no ability to place fear in the hearts of low level civil servants upon whose cooperation the govenrment's stability is built.
Yet somehow, a few thousand Chinese found the fortitude to tear a policeman limb from limb (for beating someone to death!).
You have a point about how vapid, how stupid many young Americans are today. However, when the pain of living becomes great enough as these young people get poorer and poorer...they WILL riot at some point. And then it will be ON with the jack-booted, armored car driving, grenade launcher armed "local police".
Good question...and we may find out sooner than some folks think.
You have to understand most of the people you see today are not from the stock of 1776 Americans, but instead, they are the poor wash ashores who followed after 1830. Mostly renters by then.
You have to understand we were yearning to be free not ito live in chains in the land of the Free!
Keep your Ben/yellon Bucks
Keep Stacking
Keep boating in uncharted water
Go Giants (bread and Circus)
I peppuh spray you eye, for own good.
China should just hold a independence vote, allow everyone to vote, put unlimited cash into the NO side, making sure the status quo crowd understands they will "lose everything", and presto.......
55 no, 45 yes. Old people voting to keep their "hard earned welfare" goodies, game over for self determination dreams!!!
Repeat!
Another fine example of Orwellian doublespeak - we have to harm you to save you
It's another one of them there "paradoxes" like the one, "if we ban flights from Ebola infected coutnries, it paradoxically may make the spread worse."
It's like little Johnny, "Daddy, if I study more my grades will sink lower."
It be paradoxical !
Nice selfie, WB7.
Keep your head down Amigo.
What these people expect to get changed? Honest question.
They may be idealists.
But at a minimum I would say that the government will have to pay much closer attention to the causes of general malaise which are obviously lurking under the surface. It seems they severely underestimated it.
The "everything that is good for billionaire tycoons is good for everyone" formulation will have to be seriously revisited.
Otherwise this is not going away.
Another great shot William. I love how you captured the light. It is amazing that this is happening right there where you live WB7. If there is anyone on ZH whom I trust to tell the truth it is William Banzai 7 and he does so with his camera.
Quit a crowd out there WB. Thnx for the photos.
Well if the Chinese govt follows the role model of the USA govt in dealing with the Occupy masses unhappy with what is only good for the billionaires and Wall St thing going on here, then expect this Umbrella thing to blow over in some pretty strong winds.
If China is smart enough it will learn and grow from this episode. It can either put a lid on dissent and simply delay a bigger and broader explosion or it can negotiate with those youngsters for the creation of a process whereby China can meet the great challenges ahead with the support, enthusiasm and energy of its younger generation.
Explosion from what? students prepaid by the west?
I cannot comment on that directly as I have no specific knowledge as to whether that is true or not. But surely you know that there are 100's of protests throughout China on a daily basis against the government and its shortcomings which don't actually get media coverage. Are you saying that those protesters are also US funded?
In any case, quite apart from the question as to whether the US is funding this, lies the greater question which is, "do the young protesters have any reasonable basis for their protests?"
The timing of this is more than a little suspect though.
This is about elections planned for 2017.
Global research is pretty sure, with facts and figure, that US NGO's are very involved in
it ,to the same extent they were in Ukraine.
Yes, they do have valid complaints, but so do we here.Russian or Chinese NGO's would
hardly be welcome funding protests about it.
Somebody on a daily basis against the government at every country. You don't need to paid everyone to get this tv effect. About 1000 prepaid and another 10-20k just stupid sheep
Your democracy and liberties are total BS
Libia got a western democracy... And Iraq, and Yugoslavia, and Ukraine.
You haven't got direct election in USA, there is no democracy in UK, because they still have got a queen, you can read laws of uk - queen have every power and right and not only in Uk, but also in Canada, Australia and 13 different countries.
Chinese are better than you, because they do not hide it. You need to start reading about the world before opening your mouth
You need a little perspective on that "there's 100s of protests throughout China and they are always on a knife edge" meme.
China's problems, while they do exist, have always been overplayed by western MSM whilst another comparable nation, India, has been downplayed on the same scale, all for geopolitics.
If you look at how much riots and all sorts of religious/ethnic strife happens in India(and you might actually need to look them up if you don't normally pay attention to international news), yet India continues to function just fine as a nation whilst receiving periodic praise as the 'world's largest democracy'... then you look at how much LESS civil strife China suffers from compared to India, and everyone believes China is unstable and India is??
you have to ask yourself if you and everyone who holds this view have been mislead or brainwashed by the MSM, maybe even unconsciously.
"China's problems, while they do exist, have always been overplayed by western MSM"
Overplaying other nation's problems.
That wouldn't be propaganda, would it? Accepted by both the American simpleton and the Harvard graduate?
For your information where the west is funding an even greater movement against the interests of the Chinese people is by allowing capital illegally exported from China to enter the USA, Canada and Australia for the purchase of 10's of billions of property without any real questions being asked.
Dr Housing Bubble, among others, have been following these Billions form China and it is odd no questions are ever asked where all the cash Loot came from. I think the Doctor said a large number of the sales were to foreigners, half of whom were Chinese and the other half Canadians.
Chinese buyers heavily focused on California real estate: 70 percent of purchases made by Chinese buyers are all cash purchases.
Record number of real estate purchases go to foreign buyers: Canadians target Las Vegas, Detroit Los Angeles, and Florida in General. Chinese targeting Los Angeles, San Francisco, Irvine, Las Vegas, Detroit, and Florida as well.the cash "Loot" is either earned on merit/entrepreneurship/luck or acquired from relationships/fraud/politics, or a mix. it's no different from how rich in other countries make their Loot.
similarly, the idea that rich chinese are the only rich folks globally that want homes abroad and offshore bank accounts is utter nonsense. chinese rich, just like all other rich, want to diversify where they keep their assets/homes and cash. i would (educated) guess that the proportion of assets chinese 1%-ers have offshore is smaller than most other countries.
that chinese are the biggest buyers of prime international real estate recently, reflects only that there are more chinese making big money than citizens of any other country.
Shady magnates and corrupt politicians from all over the globe are stashing their ill-gotten wealth in luxurious Manhattan apartments.
http://www.thenation.com/article/180516/how-new-york-real-estate-became-...
Same as London, the tribe takes advantage to sell at a premium and then they crash the market and buy stuff back up at rock bottom.
Hey, I’m just quoting Dr Bubble. I have no gripes at all with it. I could care less where their money came from. In fact, I’m glad when a Chinese family moves into my neighborhood; my experience is they’re usually polite, quite, educated and as you say, wealthy. Solid addition to my community in my opinion.
We live in a time where negotiations have proven ineffective. You can't negotiate with dictators just like you can't negotiate with terrorists. The only way to oppose communism or any other kind of tyranny, is through force. What this occupy movement needs is a backbone.
stg5ive, And what do you think whats gonna happen when you remove a gubmint by force, you get an other bunch of assholes, whom gonna strip jou clean, because "rebuilding cost" be patience these gubmints going to shoot them self in the foot sooner or later.........
In Israel-Palestinian negotiations, which party isalways the fuckee ?
Mrs Nuland : "Fuck The HK"
The protestors haven`t seen nothing yet, wake me when they start using "rubber" bullets.
I live in Asia and the shit is real. I know the NWO has their finger in it howeer the young people are pissed off! When I was in HK I saw what I saw in Thailand. The Young people have figured out that the bankers are enemy. I live in Thailand, however I travel all over Asia. I know there's money from the new world order injected into this. However this shit is real to some degree. I hope to God they can pull it off.
But make no mistake about it. I saw in Hong Kong Young people wearing the United States Constitution on their T-shirts. I saw T-shirts with info wars.com. I saw T-shirts with George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and a lot of American revolutionary type tea party flags et cetera.
And that was quite shocking. This shit is real!
Do the young people protest against bankers? I doubt so.
The young people have NO idea what people will come into the governemnt positions and offices after they get rid of the current administration. They do NOT see the big risk that the change might be in the opposite direction.
I would not expect anything good out of events administered by american NGOs. And btw these students don't earn their own money (let put aside the NGOs /american taxpayer money). They have no clue how it being fucked by government and banksters for REAL.
Are you handing out "cookies" as you travel around Asia.
You must be a shill.
I just heard on a BBC radio program a retired civil service manadrin, trying his best not to be 'too patrician with the pickninnies', basically saying that they shouldn't protest against something they weren't going to win.
In his best public service voice, he said that when UK ran Hong Kong, they could have given the people more freedoom, but decided against it in case the mainland Chinese just removed it when they got the colony back. The interviewer tried to suggest the perhaps democracy and freedom to vote for anyone was a worldwide right, and most of the rest of us (or our forebears) had fought for it in our past. The blessed, Lord, Sir so-and-so was most disdainful at the mere thought that common people could even think one sentance ahead. Why bother in the first place, and then definitely don't bother fighting to retain it.
He couldn't even see how this explained why the British Empire collapsed, and why UK is now ridiculed around the world for its desperation to appease and compromise -ON EVERYTHING!
The names of some of those buildings on the map at the top of the page are pretty telling of the slave system they have in place:
1. People's Liberation Army HQ - I don't think the Army will be doing any liberating of the people, do you?
2. Revenue Tower? Such a shameless name for a government building
3. Immigration Tower? This is just called the White House here in America
4. Admiralty Centre? As in Admiralty Law (versus Common Law) I suppose.
5. HSBC & Bank of China - Very prominent landmarks I'm sure
I've never been to Hong Kong, but having purchased a takeaway some time past feel qualified to speak on these protests, ably organised with the help of the U.S. state department et al. Maybe the next will be Saudi Arabia, which is shaping up nicely to undergo regime change, but not necessarily in the form the instigators of all this trouble in the Mid East want.
I can't believe people show up to protest without gas masks. Even I have a full-face mask with organic vapor cartridges, and all I do is cut my grass a few times a year.
Ah, now I get it, it IS about pussy!
Cause otherwise, that dood is one lonely mofo. ;-)
Is Vicky Nuland handing out pork dumplings over there or has State got wise and sent out the NGO's to do it this time ?
Sometimes it helps to not be so obvious. Look for the US Govt. Employees Union lable on the bottom of those printed protest signs.
Vicky Nuland is a pork dumpling.
Haven't you seen photos of her spilling out of the top and bottom of her girdle?
ficky nulands state deptments she not like fukey suckey or pork she kosher long time.
no pork you nazi bastard
give stewdent egg fu yung stir frys for freedumbs
It is the height of stupidity or amateurism to show up at a protest without steel-toed boots, eye protection, helmet or hardhat, sunscreen, water, snacks, and full-face gas mask.
Additionally, who here drives without a fire extinguisher and at least a half-face respirator? Shame on you!
soros was not paying enough the mean spirited jew did not even supply any sniper rifles for the blackwater types they got in position and realised they did not have the guns or dum dums
& don't show up without a couple of condoms. :o)
Great place to meet chicks, especially if you have some take-away to share.
you have to be a big looser to meet chick under these circumstances. I'm not referring to you, but just making a general comment for participants.
Hey, don't knock it. My Dad met my Mom at a Vietnam protest years ago. See what a gem they produced ... Me !
Seriously, next to weddings and funerals, demonstrations and protests are a good way to meet people of similar ideas or similar friends. It ain't all as bad as you think. Gotta think a little more profound up there.
[PS: Picking up chicks at a family reunion is a No No unless your from the Tennessee back country or Arkansas hills]
[PPS: I am not the one down voting anyone above]
Great place to meet outspoken chicks with a university degree, and overly high opinion of themselves and their intelligence, and a sense of entitlement... no thanks. ;-)
DO WHAT WE SAY, DON'T DO WHAT WE DO
Saying that "the occupation was coming to pose a health and fire safety hazard to the protesters and to the surrounding community," New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg ordered the clearing of Zuccotti Park early today.
200 protesters in lower Manhattan was a health and fire saftey hazzard.. . . 50,000 protesters in central Hong Kong is just as lovely as Un dimanche après-midi à l'Ile de la Grande JatteWhile McDonalds profits might be tanking at least they are responsive and responsible in their donations to NGO contrived events! After all a clean radical bought and paid for protestor is a happy bought and paid for protestor!...
Always looked George Soros looked good in Yellow and "Red" dressed as a clown!
Bah Dah Bah Bah Bah... We're lovin it!!!
Tony Cartalucci, "Entire 'Occupy Central' Protest Scripted in Washington" at
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2014/10/entire-occupy-central-protest-....
Remember Tiananmen Square? Chinese authorities achieved their goals.
We will see a repeat, because the Chinese leaders will use this as an opportunity to teach Hong Kong about "Social Order" We whould start creating names:
"Admiralty Tears of 2014"
They have lost. I guarantee the Occupy crowd will be dismantled, disseminated and re-trained. Traitors will be removed over time. Anyway, the HK people despise the movement and the people.
Proposing to girlfriend at a lame pro-democracy gathering?
Marriage?
What a bunch of douches.
Here's hoping the worst for them.
Americans should be proud of Joshua Wong: the greatest leader of democracy in the 21st. Century, albeit, in communist China.
Americans ask “what can we do? We are helpless victims.” Well, teenager Joshua Wong will show you WHAT to do; he and his 120,000 academic friends would make our forefathers proud.
OTPOR revisited....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq4GtZEDZYg
https://www.google.com/search?q=OTPOR&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.moz...
Sheldon Adelson's Macau casino is less than an hour ferry ride from Hong Kong....does anyone really think he is too busy buying up the US government to pay any attention to what is happening in his own back yard??