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Turkish President Proclaims "I Am Increasingly Against The Internet Every Day"
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
A very significant and dangerous trend has been accelerating in recent weeks. This trend consists of leaders throughout the globe coming out and blatantly calling for censorship and restrictions on free speech.
Of course, in so-called Western democracies, the leaders have to be more subtle and nuanced in their approach. They can’t just come out and say they hate the internet. We saw this tactic from the UK Conservative Party as of late with its call for the banning “non-violent” extremism from public discourse. I covered this terrifying plan in my recent post: The UK’s Conservative Party Declares War on YouTube, Twitter, Free Speech and Common Sense.
While that’s how British politicians pitch totalitarianism, their Turkish counterparts don’t seem to have any qualms about just coming out and admitting their disdain for the proliferation of free speech that the internet allows. We learn from the Independent that:
The Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdo?an has defended his government’s efforts to control online speech, telling a press freedom conference: “I am increasingly against the Internet every day.”
Mr Erdo?an’s comments came during an “unprecedented” meeting with the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) and the International Press Institute (IPI).
Local newspapers and major publications such as The New York Times and CNN International were among those slammed by officials, according to the CPJ.
“Media should never have been given the liberty to insult,” Mr Erdo?an was quoted as saying during the 90-minute meeting.
In a nod to the Western strategy, he also throws out the “terrorism” talking point.
He also expressed concern that criminal and terrorist organizations such as the Islamic State go online to recruit followers, saying he is “increasingly against” the internet.
His remarks come after he approved a law tightening control of the internet and increasing the powers held by telecoms authorities earlier in September.
Meanwhile in Egypt, the Associated Press notes that civil rights groups and humanitarian organizations are concerned that things under newly elected President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi, will be even more authoritarian than they were under Hosni Mubarak.
While this trend of politicians waging war on free speech is dangerous, it is also extremely encouraging. They wouldn’t feel the need to take off the velvet gloves unless they were scared to death that the plebs were on to them and actually talking to one another.
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Beautiful....
the credit goes to Armstrong, Martin ... couldnt resist sharing ...
Winston Churchill was terrible in school yet without him Hitler would have died in a retirement home.
That's right, as in we would not have had WW 2.
Great anecdotes about Gandhi but if you check them out you'll see the source of this insight into his brilliance was none other than Gandhi himself. Don't be fooled by the Gandhi myth. http://irishsavant.blogspot.ie/2008/04/mahatma-gandhi-saint-racist-or-bo...
I am increasingly against government everyday.
Our Assassination of Archduke Ferdinand Moment Cometh
OCT 2 - Turkish lawmakers OK military action against ISIS
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/02/world/meast/isis-air-strikes/index.html
Nostradamus Quatrain IX-62
To the great one of Ceramon-agora (Usak, Turkey)
The crosses [crusaders] will be attached [labeled] by rank,
The long lasting Opium and Mandrake,
Raugon shall be released on the third of October.
RAUGON is an anagram of Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan.
REARRANGE RAUGON TO UROGAN
RULES OF ANAGRAMS - ADD OR CHANGE ANY LETTER
ADD THE D
UROGAN <-----> ERDOGAN
URDOGAN <-----> ERDOGAN
Nostradamus Quatrain I-52
The two wicked ones conjoined in Scorpio,
The great Seignior murdered in his hall:
Plague to the Church by the King newly joined,
Europe low and Septentrionale.
The great Seignior was once known as the Sultan of Turkey. Septentrion represents Ursa Major, the Great Bear, and it is symbolic of Russia.
TRANSLATION: Nostradamus Quatrain I-52
The two wicked ones conjoined in Scorpio,
The great Seignior [Turkish Leader is] murdered in his hall:
[It will bring a] Plague to the Church by the King newly joined,
Europe low and Septentrionale [Russian].
...Putin spoke of his friendship with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan;
“... I will reiterate my stance before my friend Erdogan, that what is happening in Syria necessitates a different approach on their part. Turkey will not be immune to Syria’s bloodbath. The Turks ought to be more eager to find a political settlement to the Syrian crisis.
Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/politics/2013/08/saudi-russia-putin-bandar-meeting-syria-egypt.html#
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Kerry recently lamented the loss of ideological propaganda control recently.
John Kerry: 'This Little Thing Called the Internet ... Makes It Much Harder to Govern'Yes, it does. You see, we hate you and what you represent- the loss of freedom, dishonesty, unjust wars, war profiteering, and the usurious monetary system.
Fuck you, Kerry. We know who you are and who you represent.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/john-kerry-little-thing-called-inter...
yeah .. the good old days ... you read smt someone wrote for you in front of some senate committee and let the journalist dressed it up ...
It's sickening to see the joyless, oppressive Middle Eastern authoritarians espousing the same views that many US officials have expressed for years.
Makes it a lot harder to govern = Makes it a lot harder to lie, cheat and steal
Fuck you old school Kerry.
It's amazing what an idiot he was for saying this, not realizing the implications. It's also interesting to google this and see which news sites do/don't cover this.
Human primates are the most vicious, violent, and selfishly irrational predators on planet earth. It's no wonder world leaders are scared shitless and want to control them. If I ran a country full of meat eating gorillas I'd want to censor their internet too. Following that logic, you'd have to be a sadomasochistic psychopath to become a world leader in the first place. You try shutting down the twitter feeds you'll end up on the despot trash heap of history.
On a long enough timeline, the monkey hive always wins.
I LOVED YOUR COMMENT but i dinged you because i really do think you could take away the internet. i mean not all at once.
i just see the u.s. every bit as able to censor the net as china, if not BETTER able. so good that americans wouldn't even object to it in any meaningful way.
Creeping islamism in the Turkish government is going to backfire on Erdogan one day.
Recep Tayyip Erdo?, like our president, Is a proponent of the Muslim Brotherhood. The mid-evil religious group that doesn't tolerate criticism.
these want to be dictators of the world are pissed, they remember when they could execute their false-flags in private.
they yearn for their onesided information system, that worked better for them.
most world leaders are envious of pre-internet hitler, gobbels information set-up, and their striving to bring it back.
govt.'s use terrorism as a reason to control, or ban the internet, when they use the internet to foment terrorrism as a means to their control their population, can any say alinsky.
ask the people in americas inner-cities what they think of terrorism, they live it everyday, children shot going to school, playing outside, going shopping, tens of millions of american citizens, on a daily basis are under personal lock-down after sundown.
In many ways I hate the internet since it has opened my eyes to how dumb the human species is and how quick the Idiocracy is progressing each year. Pre internet days it was much easier to be around groups of strangers and not be disgusted since I was ignorant to how dumb they most likely are. On the other hand, I love the net for the ability to online shop thereby avoiding interactions with the sheeple and also for the few intelligent people I come across.
I really don"t see what all the fuss is about. When one takes a look at the overall amount of information
available across the web (whether bullshit or actual truth), on the whole, usally,in the overall scope of thjngs
very little in the way of human action actually takes place outside of multitudes of commenters going to
the comments sections of their favorite website(s) and getting into some sort of pissin' contest.
Oh well, I guess all we can really do is wait till things get oppressive enough, (for some around the world
they already have). but it seems here in the US, we still have what we believe to be time on our side, that is, till we don't...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBswFfh6AY
Vologograd train station bombing part deux
Looks like Bandar "Bush", Binnie and Secret Chimp are at it again.
Just when will Russia pull off the gloves and retaliate in-kind for what the U.S./U.K./Saudi/Israel House refuses to even hide anymore?!!!
I'd love to see it. A well-aimed sniper's bullet through Badars turban would send one hell of a message.
Didn't JFK have a little diddy about this subject, It seems the guide posts of HISTORY are easily relegated
to the trash bin in the narcissistic mind of the politician...
Awesome. Since their "wars" always seem to create more of whatever it is that they're at war with, I love a war on free speech....
Erdogan has previously shut down You-tube, over the taped plotting of a false flag in Syria by top Military and senior minister of his government.
The internet has become increasingly sanitised and gated. Even bloggers who routinely use Tor typically find access middleman meters like Cloudflare to captcha their ip address. Every step and move you make has your browser's fingerprint. Even those that beyond Tor, tunnel/proxify, hide referers and user agent, etc., are at best hedging their spook risk. The tide is now decisively rising against dissident, aka alternative, anti-fascist/extremist/terrorist views. It will soon be aiding and abetting to pay for an internet connection, in both figurative and literal senses. And a complete waste of money.
https://panopticlick.eff.org
The Internet is scaring many others, not only politicians.
Corporations: Shitty CEO's trying to hide information about environmental crimes and financial scams. Cults have been fighting hard to remove information about them on discussion boards (in the last years Scientology and Jehovah's Witnesses come to mind). For high control groups the Internet is a nightmare!
The Internet, like the Central Banks, is just another digital printing press and he who controls the digits has the upper hand...a continuing plethora of competing digits is the only way to thwart centralized control of both money and communication.
yes but if digits are communication, than cryptocurrencies fatal flaw is its dependence on telecommunications providers......
are meshnets going to change that? i don't think so...
erdogan is a fucking dog
a pimp selling via rendition woman and kids shipping from incirlik base
nato and the un all in this industry big time.
erdogan the dog is
a rapist of children
a drug dealing live organ trader.
a jewish chap undercover just like sisi of egypt,the house of saud and the royal family rapists of qatar
all of these scum are very much into saturn satan and the talmud.
erdogan needs to be in front of a firing squad for his syriana crimes against.
fuck these traitorious turks like the kurds they do the bidding of tel aviv
President Borat W. Erdogan is right, decapitate the Internets immediately!
I don't understand the pile-on directed at Erdogan over this. I am increasingly against the internet every day as well. Packaging this as a free speech or censorship issue seriously misses the point and is disingenuous on top of it. Even in countries wherein the citizens have a constitutional right to free speech, the legal meaning of that term only encompasses the idea that you cannot be prosecuted merely for speaking against the authorities; it does not mean that everybody should be allowed to do whatever they want over a public network, or that such a network should even be allowed to exist in the first place. Interestingly, Mike Krieger is doing precisely the same thing here that liberal progressives do when they insist that health care is a right. Health care is only a means, and a means can never be a right. The internet is also simply a means. I cannot disagree in principle with the idea of a government shutting down the internet in the public interest, despite the potential for such power to be abused. Any power can be abused, but we do not swear off the very concept of authority for that reason (well, some libertarians do, but I don't take their claims seriously).
I have never believed that I have an absolute right to internet access, and correspondingly I do not believe anyone else does, either. And as far as my personal liberties are concerned, in the nonce I think the internet has been a washout. It is just as handy an instrument for controlling people as it is for freeing them. If anything, it provides for a greater degree of total control than anything we have known. Do the people who complain about the surveillance state realize how inconsistent they're being when they turn around and complain about telecom controls as well? Clearly these both amount to one-sided views of a complex problem. The answer to the political problem cannot be sought along the lines of free speech but only in a better coordination of national and individual interests.
I spent a month in Morocco ... business took me to many small towns in the Atlas Mountains and the fringes of the Sahara .... They all had Internet cafes, and every PC I used had the most disgusting porno still cached in the browsers, left there by former users. So you can bet the leaders of Islamic countries hate the Internet but for a reason you may not suspect: it corrupts their youth.
Back in the coastal towns where the decisions are made, the young Moroccan men and women I met were struggling to reconcile their traditions with Western corrosive influence. They are the future leaders of the nation, and they don't like what a lot of Western influence is doing to them either.
Until the Muslim world figures how to reconcile Islam and Western 'culture', we're in for terrorism and very stormy weather. And since our leaders are hypnotized by the gods of PC cultural diversity, and refuse to use old fashioned police techniques and instead rely upon mass state survellience of everyone, there goes what's left our our liberties.
Hasta la bye bye, liberal democracies, where ever you are ...
you think islamic cultures don't have back alley prostitution and alchohol?
porn is what makes islam and western culture incompatitible? hardly.
who knows what the truth is anymore? More and more leaders are afraid of the Internet service .
Right after we ass rape every penny you hold, states Washington, DC.