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Doctor Who Discovered Ebola In 1976 Fears "Unimaginable Tragedy"

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"In 1976 I discovered Ebola - now I fear an unimaginable tragedy" - Peter Piot was a researcher at a lab in Antwerp when a pilot brought him a blood sample from a Belgian nun who had fallen mysteriously ill in Zaire. Now, the Director of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine warns, "around June it became clear to me there was something different about this outbreak. I began to get really worried."

Via The Guardian,

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After Yambuku, you spent the next 30 years of your professional life devoted to combating Aids. But now Ebola has caught up to you again. American scientists fear that hundreds of thousands of people could ultimately become infected. Was such an epidemic to be expected?

No, not at all. On the contrary, I always thought that Ebola, in comparison to Aids or malaria, didn't present much of a problem because the outbreaks were always brief and local. Around June it became clear to me that there was something fundamentally different about this outbreak. At about the same time, the aid organisation Médecins Sans Frontières sounded the alarm. We Flemish tend to be rather unemotional, but it was at that point that I began to get really worried.

Why did WHO react so late?

On the one hand, it was because their African regional office isn't staffed with the most capable people but with political appointees. And the headquarters in Geneva suffered large budget cuts that had been agreed to by member states. The department for haemorrhagic fever and the one responsible for the management of epidemic emergencies were hit hard. But since August WHO has regained a leadership role.

There is actually a well-established procedure for curtailing Ebola outbreaks: isolating those infected and closely monitoring those who had contact with them. How could a catastrophe such as the one we are now seeing even happen?

I think it is what people call a perfect storm: when every individual circumstance is a bit worse than normal and they then combine to create a disaster. And with this epidemic there were many factors that were disadvantageous from the very beginning. Some of the countries involved were just emerging from terrible civil wars, many of their doctors had fled and their healthcare systems had collapsed. In all of Liberia, for example, there were only 51 doctors in 2010, and many of them have since died of Ebola.

The fact that the outbreak began in the densely populated border region between Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia ...

… also contributed to the catastrophe. Because the people there are extremely mobile, it was much more difficult than usual to track down those who had had contact with the infected people. Because the dead in this region are traditionally buried in the towns and villages they were born in, there were highly contagious Ebola corpses travelling back and forth across the borders in pickups and taxis. The result was that the epidemic kept flaring up in different places.

For the first time in its history, the virus also reached metropolises such as Monrovia and Freetown. Is that the worst thing that can happen?

In large cities – particularly in chaotic slums – it is virtually impossible to find those who had contact with patients, no matter how great the effort. That is why I am so worried about Nigeria as well. The country is home to mega-cities like Lagos and Port Harcourt, and if the Ebola virus lodges there and begins to spread, it would be an unimaginable catastrophe.

Have we completely lost control of the epidemic?

I have always been an optimist and I think that we now have no other choice than to try everything, really everything. It's good that the United States and some other countries are finally beginning to help. But Germany or even Belgium, for example, must do a lot more. And it should be clear to all of us: This isn't just an epidemic any more. This is a humanitarian catastrophe. We don't just need care personnel, but also logistics experts, trucks, jeeps and foodstuffs. Such an epidemic can destabilise entire regions. I can only hope that we will be able to get it under control. I really never thought that it could get this bad.

What can really be done in a situation when anyone can become infected on the streets and, like in Monrovia, even the taxis are contaminated?

We urgently need to come up with new strategies. Currently, helpers are no longer able to care for all the patients in treatment centres. So caregivers need to teach family members who are providing care to patients how to protect themselves from infection to the extent possible. This on-site educational work is currently the greatest challenge. Sierra Leone experimented with a three-day curfew in an attempt to at least flatten out the infection curve a bit. At first I thought: "That is totally crazy." But now I wonder, "why not?" At least, as long as these measures aren't imposed with military power.

A three-day curfew sounds a bit desperate.

Yes, it is rather medieval. But what can you do? Even in 2014, we hardly have any way to combat this virus.

Do you think we might be facing the beginnings of a pandemic?

There will certainly be Ebola patients from Africa who come to us in the hopes of receiving treatment. And they might even infect a few people here who may then die. But an outbreak in Europe or North America would quickly be brought under control. I am more worried about the many people from India who work in trade or industry in west Africa. It would only take one of them to become infected, travel to India to visit relatives during the virus's incubation period, and then, once he becomes sick, go to a public hospital there. Doctors and nurses in India, too, often don't wear protective gloves. They would immediately become infected and spread the virus.

The virus is continually changing its genetic makeup. The more people who become infected, the greater the chance becomes that it will mutate ...

... which might speed its spread. Yes, that really is the apocalyptic scenario. Humans are actually just an accidental host for the virus, and not a good one. From the perspective of a virus, it isn't desirable for its host, within which the pathogen hopes to multiply, to die so quickly. It would be much better for the virus to allow us to stay alive longer.

Could the virus suddenly change itself such that it could be spread through the air?

Like measles, you mean? Luckily that is extremely unlikely. But a mutation that would allow Ebola patients to live a couple of weeks longer is certainly possible and would be advantageous for the virus. But that would allow Ebola patients to infect many, many more people than is currently the case.

But that is just speculation, isn't it?

Certainly. But it is just one of many possible ways the virus could change to spread itself more easily. And it is clear that the virus is mutating.

You and two colleagues wrote a piece for the Wall Street Journal supporting the testing of experimental drugs. Do you think that could be the solution?

Patients could probably be treated most quickly with blood serum from Ebola survivors, even if that would likely be extremely difficult given the chaotic local conditions. We need to find out now if these methods, or if experimental drugs like ZMapp, really help. But we should definitely not rely entirely on new treatments. For most people, they will come too late in this epidemic. But if they help, they should be made available for the next outbreak.

Testing of two vaccines is also beginning. It will take a while, of course, but could it be that only a vaccine can stop the epidemic?

I hope that's not the case. But who knows? Maybe.

In Zaire during that first outbreak, a hospital with poor hygiene was responsible for spreading the illness. Today almost the same thing is happening. Was Louis Pasteur right when he said: "It is the microbes who will have the last word"?

Of course, we are a long way away from declaring victory over bacteria and viruses. HIV is still here; in London alone, five gay men become infected daily. An increasing number of bacteria are becoming resistant to antibiotics. And I can still see the Ebola patients in Yambuku, how they died in their shacks and we couldn't do anything except let them die. In principle, it's still the same today. That is very depressing. But it also provides me with a strong motivation to do something. I love life. That is why I am doing everything I can to convince the powerful in this world to finally send sufficient help to west Africa. Now!

*  *  *

And that's the scientist that discovered this monstrous virus!!

 

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Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:03 | 5296367 stacking12321
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that's such a tease, tyler, saying doctor who discovered ebola in 1976, and the story isnt even about doctor who!

 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:07 | 5296390 FieldingMellish
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EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:16 | 5296438 MagicHandPuppet
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I just watched Doctor Who last night!  Remember the plastic people?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:24 | 5296473 Latina Lover
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Georgia Guidestones: 2014 stone removed.  I feel better now, knowing that we will no be limited to 500 Million. /sarc.

 

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/new-2014%E2%80%B2-cube-removed-from-georg...

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:28 | 5296498 Latina Lover
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BTW, something that is NOT make clear in the Mainstream Lying Media, is that Ebola is a sexually transmitted disease. Since incubation can take 21 days, a carrier can infect others while remaining asymptomatic.

 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:35 | 5296527 AssFire
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WADR Sir,

This is not your Ebola we improved it and patented it- now cease with claims of ownership.

Contemptuously Yours,

The US government

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:38 | 5296531 Pinto Currency
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If Ebola can not be transmitted through the air, then why have two nurses in Spain who were protected from direct contact with contaminated fluids now infected?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:42 | 5296547 knukles
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Dammit!  I really wanted to make the first comment but I spent all day renewing my health insurance for the coming year.

 

PS  Pinto.....  Exactamundo.  Not only the ones in Spain where the protective protocols one would assume be rather robust, but even in the Deepest Darkest of Africa, the health care givers are dropping like flies.
It doesn't make sense, any more than bringing the sick back here or not corodoning off the entire West of Africa.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:00 | 5296644 NoDebt
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"it was because their African regional office isn't staffed with the most capable people but with political appointees."

Probably explains a substantial portion of why this outbreak is different.  I'd bet real cash money that's going on at the CDC right now, too.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:16 | 5296707 knukles
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They're all political appointees. 

cockroach theory of societal hierarchy

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:31 | 5296720 J S Bach
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"Doctor Who Discovered Ebola In 1976 Fears "Unimaginable Tragedy"

 

Wait a minute...  I thought Dr. Who was a fictional character.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:50 | 5296827 The9thDoctor
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It was actually in 1970 to be exact, when I discovered it. I was in my third incarnation and discovered it at UNIT. The Silurians developed it, so they can exterminate humanity and re-inhabit earth's surface. So yes David Icke's Reptilian theories are correct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_and_the_Silurians

The Silurian Plague Hits London - Doctor Who and The Silurians
http://youtu.be/uO2ZcumWy9E

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:54 | 5296847 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen.

"YOU" discovered it. Are you such an incompetent doctor that in 38 fucking years "YOU" could not engineer an antidote?

"PATHETIC"!!

Fuck you ebola "DOC". --The People.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:58 | 5296869 The9thDoctor
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The Rockefeller Foundation suppressed it. You don't ever read the conspiracy forums?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:45 | 5297030 Save_America1st
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Dr. helped "discover" it or did he help "create" it???

U.S. holds "patent" on Ebola.  WTF?  Over???

https://www.google.com/patents/CA2741523A1?cl=en

Sorry...I guess my tinfoil hat and my hazmat suit are on too tight these days.

But ya can't ever been too sure, right!!!???  booga booga booga!!!

 

 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:34 | 5297181 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Not sure if this if anyone has posted this yet, but here is a good article on PAPR:

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/09/commentary-health-wor...

I'm having trouble finding units that have their APF listed.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:56 | 5297266 sylviasays
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Four years ago, quietly and without public notice, the Obama administration scrapped quarantine plans from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) which could have blocked travelers with the deadly Ebola virus from entering the U.S.

http://www.Newsmax.com/Headline/Ebola-CDC-Obama/2014/10/03/id/598485/#ixzz3FQ65wqGC 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:15 | 5297476 The Doofus
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Here's a news-flash.  Human beings are mortal.  We live.  We eat.  We laugh.  We cry.  We shit.  We die.  If it's not Ebola, it'll be something else.  Nobody gets out alive.  So stop worrying all the time.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:35 | 5297536 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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You can check out anytime Doofus. It'd be one less vector for the rest of us to worry about.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:55 | 5297595 Jim in MN
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Are French fried smelly feet still OK????

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 06:12 | 5297909 swmnguy
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As long as they're thoroughly fried. Greasy grimy gopher guts, on the other hand, are right out.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 01:58 | 5297769 Kirk2NCC1701
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But you can still spank it.
Your monkey, that is.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:49 | 5297239 MeBizarro
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Yup and it is now being released in West Africa as a trial run after its latest modification in the US.  Seen that one of late.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:03 | 5296885 Dave Thomas
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And the fucker can time travel too. Dr Who sucks.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:54 | 5297260 MeBizarro
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What sucks is the food your restaurant including the chili which is made out of leftover and semi-rancid hamburger patty meat and you keep reserving by adding hot water.  I know a Wendy's that recycled the same batch of chili for over a week until they threw out the last of it because it wasn't elidible for human consumption. 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:04 | 5297097 Dapper Dan
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I challenge anyone to find a better synopsis of Ebola than this.

https://www.academia.edu/8440400/The_West_African_Ebola_Epidemic The West African Ebola Epidemicmore by
comes with 4 pages of references

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:22 | 5297315 The Big Ching-aso
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Fears "Unimaginable Tragedy".......

Nah not us. We can imagine it no problem.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:06 | 5297440 jarana
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I catch it.

Here you can see that spanish government is hiring mentally retarded people (Down syndrome) as surgeons.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 09:53 | 5298516 ajax
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This sort of scenario certainly isn't helping:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/world/africa/sierra-leone-ebola-medica...

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:45 | 5296816 Mareka
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Don't worry.  Ebola is really hard to get.  That's why trained medical professionals who know they are dealing with infected individuals and have full hazmat gear are still somehow contracting the disease.

"A nurse in Spain has become the first person to contract Ebola outside of West Africa in the latest epidemic, authorities said on Monday. ...The nurse entered the priest's room twice: Once to treat him and once upon his death, to recover his belongings, officials said. She began showing signs of illness on Sept. 30 and sought treatment, they said. "

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:13 | 5296928 knukles
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Exactly

 

Q: Is it possible to get Ebola from just being close to anybody, like on a plane, breathing the same air?
A: No.  Unequivocally not.  You must be a healthcare worker properly dressed in at least STAGE/LEVEL 4 bio-warfare clothing to get infected.
Q: And it has no genetic markers this time around?
A: Correct.  That's why all the black people are dying and we'll soon find out how it works on Middle Eastern folks at the hajj.  Plus if you were born in Hawaii, you're immune.
Q: Then I really don't have to worry?
A: No, you can take a sex-cation to western Africa and have all the unprotected sex, spit swapping and finger lickin' good foreplay you want.

Gee thanks, Mr Wizard.
Anytime, Billy.     

ya little fuck

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:25 | 5296966 fonzannoon
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Big Pharma brought ebola here

so crack open an ice cold beer

the popcorn is ready

Kunta Kinte in seat 4E is shweddy

and the cdc just gave the all clear

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:43 | 5297220 walküre
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that sucks, you're screwed in 4A or 4C

needless to say that we have rethink flying commercial

maybe everyone travel in hazmat gear

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:25 | 5296971 kaiserhoff
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You should start an advice to the love shorn column, knucks.

That's precious;)

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 03:44 | 5297819 fredquimby
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If Ebola can not be transmitted through the air, then why have two nurses in Spain who were protected from direct contact with contaminated fluids now infected?

I am going with:

The virus was/is semi-aerosolized by the spray-down the nurses get after being in an infected zone. Either they get it from themselves, or from the spray-off of others being hosed down around them.

 

P.S Good luck to the Mexican chap who was power-spraying the ebo-puke of the Texas sidewalk.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 08:15 | 5298121 Government need...
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2 nurses?  I read yesterday it was a single nurse.  Is 2 the current accurate number?!?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:49 | 5296535 kaiserhoff
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If they keep messing around importing this bug, it's almost certain to go air born. This experiment has been run.

Reston involved crab monkeys, macaques from the Phillipines. An alert vet running the place noticed a new and frightening disease and contacted Fort Detrick, just across the Potomac. The virus reacted to Ebola antibodies.

The army came in, sacrificed the monkeys (like that term?) and bug bombed the building with formaldehyde gas, the same stuff you smelled in biology class. With 20/20 hindsight it is clear they didn't get it all. When new monkeys were brought in a few weeks later they became infected, and the disease was clearly air born.

It appears that the virus hid in the air ducts. By killing the bugs that were easily reached, the army helped select for those strains which had traveled furthest. The same thing could happen, every time a medical facility is cleaned. Worried yet? Here's the kicker. Reston 1 killed about half the monkeys. Par for the course.

The air born Reston 2..., killed 100%.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:00 | 5296639 NumNutt
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How Ironic, as I type this I am sitting about one block from the exact location in Reston all that took place....wonderful, just wonderful......we....are.....fucked....

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:14 | 5296696 kaiserhoff
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At the time, early nineties, I was living in Falls Church, just a few miles down wind.

Is the building still used as a Day Care Center?  Not the same building, but still...,

the mind boggles.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:42 | 5296808 williambanzai7
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I once lived in Falls Church. What a commute.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:01 | 5296879 kaiserhoff
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My misspent youth of hard work and delayed gratification.

WTF was I thinking? 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:53 | 5296852 msmith9962
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Dear god no!!!  You work in Reston?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:06 | 5296899 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen kaiserhoff.

Sounds like the work of the "RESTON" 6.

Jus sayin'.....

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 03:47 | 5297822 zhandax
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Listen, dipshit.

When this gets to Bangalore,  do you think the State Department will say, "Let's send our finest medical teams to Bangalore?"

or do you think they will say "This shit works better than we thought."

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:47 | 5296587 thamnosma
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Latina Lover -- I've also heard that Ebola remains active in semen much longer so that survival of the virus doesn't mean you are free of it.  Would be curious whether that's truly the case,.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:01 | 5296650 knukles
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I promise I won't cum in your mouth.  But if I do, just to be safe, don't swallow, OK?  Hey!!!  Where you going'?  Damn, she's runnin' like she stole sumptin'.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:20 | 5296715 kaiserhoff
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As a hot chick liked to say, just as we were getting it on,

   drive it like you stole it;)

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:22 | 5296731 hairball48
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"I promise I won't cum in your mouth."

You fucker !! :) I scrolled down to your post and damn near choked on my coffee laughing!

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:49 | 5296833 tenpanhandle
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You sure it was coffee?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:28 | 5297166 Leonardo Fibonacci2
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with coffeemate and powdered cum!

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 09:31 | 5298403 Kirk2NCC1701
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Make sure someone didn't swap powdered sea-weed with powdered semen or sea-men.

Look before you sip, as there's many a slip between the cup and the lip.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 01:06 | 5297714 IridiumRebel
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He does that to me all the time....did you say choking?

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 03:47 | 5297823 fredquimby
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I've also heard that Ebola remains active in semen much longer so that survival of the virus doesn't mean you are free of it.

7 weeks wasn't it?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:09 | 5297296 Felix da Kat
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So is Lyme disease also an STD. (and with no "bulls-eye" rash)

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 06:59 | 5297952 ebear
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So the “code” on the cube in its entirety reads: MM, 16, 20, 14, 8, JAM


Clearly the work of the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu

Furthermore known as the JAMs

Here's TaMMy to explain it all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPjggN-KByI



Tue, 10/07/2014 - 01:53 | 5297762 Kirk2NCC1701
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Calling Dr. Bombay, calling Dr. Bombay.

Be honest now... How many of you got this allusion, w/o having to search for it?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:29 | 5296506 Antifaschistische
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Okay....he did say we should try every option....but he didn't mention auto-extermination-incineration.   Although, it's obviously the most effective means of squashing a disease initially, secondarily it results in people avoiding all illness disclosure....thus works to proliferate rather than exterminate.

what a tangled web...

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:13 | 5297470 Urban Roman
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Nuke. Orbit. Sure.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 04:14 | 5297844 Akula971
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Saddle up!

Pestilence.....Check

War.....Check

Famine.....soon.

Death.....Check.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:46 | 5296447 ebworthen
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That means it was this Doctor: 

http://www.cenoctet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/tom-baker-scarf_0.jpg

"Care for a jelly baby?"

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:47 | 5297235 stacking12321
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tom baker was the best, he will always be the real doctor who to me.

but, i think gene wilder could've taken his place rather nicely, as well.

 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:59 | 5296448 Jumbotron
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I just got through reading this article on another site and had posted this on George Washington's post above.

 

UUhhhh......GUYS AND GALS ????

I have discovered something a bit....interesting....and disturbing.

This article came out today with an interview of the scientist who first discovered Ebola in 1976.  In he says....

 

"Professor Piot, as a young scientist in Antwerp, you were part of the team that discovered the Ebola virus in 1976. How did it happen?

I still remember exactly. One day in September, a pilot from Sabena Airlines brought us a shiny blue Thermos and a letter from a doctor in Kinshasa in what was then Zaire. In the Thermos, he wrote, there was a blood sample from a Belgian nun who had recently fallen ill from a mysterious sickness in Yambuku, a remote village in the northern part of the country."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/04/ebola-zaire-peter-piot-outb...

 

The Ebola sample, which know one had identified yet came from Kinshasa.  I knew I had read that name in the news just a few days ago.  Well......here it is again.....but only about AIDS !

 

"An international team of scientists say a "perfect storm" of population growth, sex and railways allowed HIV to spread.

A feat of viral archaeology was used to find the pandemic's origin, the team report in the journal Science.

They used archived samples of HIV's genetic code to trace its source, with evidence pointing to 1920s Kinshasa."

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-29442642

 

What is up with KINSHASA ?   Is it all the infected bush meat, especially fruit bats that they eat there ? 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:03 | 5296653 NumNutt
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Probably more related to all the lot lizards that run around there for the truckers....dirty hoe's...

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:08 | 5296672 Wahooo
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Nice catch.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:10 | 5296915 achilles5008
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The construction of the Kinshasa Highway brought many problems out of the deep dark jungle.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:34 | 5297537 IridiumRebel
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv3gQfMgvVM

Watch this as a refresher course.......

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 10:09 | 5298568 ajax
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I read the Piot article as well last week. Gee, remember when AIDS was a US gov't plot to kill all US homosexual men?

 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:17 | 5296450 Bay Area Guy
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LOL. I was trying to figure out which of the Doctors it was. I'd have some hope if it was David Tennant, Peter Capaldi or John Hurt Doctors. Not sure if Tom Baker could have handled it.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:56 | 5296858 The9thDoctor
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Definitely Jon Pertwee!

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:57 | 5296628 Freddie
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Obama = The Unimaginable Tragedy

It is a shame and joke that Congress, the joke judicial system and the cowardly military are incapable of upholding The Constitution.

The people of NovoRussia almost overnight had average men step up and take on the criminal ZATO junta's murderers and nazis.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:47 | 5296825 Kinskian
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Congress should be conducting an investigation into the origin of the EV-D68 virus that is crippling and killing young children in the US. If the likely source is found to be the thousands of illegal unaccompanied minors who were shipped all over the US this summer, Obama and Holder should face charges.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:10 | 5297115 WillyGroper
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It's chemtrails.

I'm in an area where the hospitals are swamped with respiratory sick kids diag'd with this "sudden virus out of nowhere". HEAVY spraying going on. Eight planes over my house today. Drove 20 mi south today, same everywhere & the skies are thick.

The monetary system, medical, & the whole shit n shebang is close to imploding.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:02 | 5297278 MeBizarro
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Yeah because viruses do so well at 35k in cold and extreme UV expsoure. 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:50 | 5297582 WillyGroper
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Another expert. Advances in biowarfare were most certainly halted.

 crystalline brucella, mycoplasma, & punta gorda, fl.

And when you're thru with that, chomp on this knownothing.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:13 | 5296690 negative rates
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Here's the guy, "a fake medical emergency" was the ebola of the day.

http://gilligan.wikia.com/wiki/Wrongway_Feldman

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:53 | 5297061 tempo
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The math, 20k cases, doubes 15-21 days, 90 days to Christmas,  so 800,000 to 1 million E. cases by year end.

Let's pray for that its contained in W. Africa and it peaks.  Nigeria was reportedly contained.  But who knows the real facts.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:04 | 5296372 Infinite QE
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"On the one hand, it was because their African regional office isn't staffed with the most capable people but with political appointees"

I'd strike "African regional office" and insert "their global offices"

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:16 | 5296439 fonzannoon
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"And they might even infect a few people here who may then die. But an outbreak in Europe or North America would quickly be brought under control."

 

 

From the guy who discovered it. That is quite the statement.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:18 | 5296453 Handful of Dust
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My Grandma says ‘wrap a strong of garlic and arugula around you neck…you’ll be fine.”

 

Mmm … seems as effective as the expensive stuff CDC has.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:24 | 5296482 Frank N. Beans
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she was probably talking about vampires; that stuff really works

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:56 | 5296859 willwork4food
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Don't forget about collidal silver treatment. Use some of that stacking to save your life.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:42 | 5296565 walküre
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you feelin' better now?

the guy also says this:

So caregivers need to teach family members who are providing care to patients how to protect themselves from infection to the extent possible.

then why did that nun who tended to the Spanish priest get it?

seems this prof from Antwerp is not looking at the full spectrum

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:59 | 5296641 eclectic syncretist
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We've only had one case in North America over a week ago and we still have no idea whether it is under control or not, and we will not know for at least another month, by which time other flare-ups could occur, or we could find out that it is not under control.  No one even knows for sure what the carrier for the virus is, or what potential carriers still exist that have not been exposed.  What if American cattle or chicken become carriers?  The genie is now out of the bottle and there are multiple scenarios in which the virus can not be brought under control and becomes a long-term pandemic.  Statements that one continent will be the last to succumb offer little hope.  In the absence of stopping it in Africa the world is offering up its collective throat to Jihadi John.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:21 | 5296711 Tenshin Headache
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http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Ebola+virus+antibody+prevalence+in+dogs+an...

Scary read.

"We found that 40 of 159 dogs living in the 2001-2002 Ebola virus-epidemic area had detectable Ebola virus-specific IgG, indicating either true infection or simple antigenic stimulation. All the tests were standardized at the 1:400 serum dilution, and most serum specimens had high OD values even at higher dilutions, confirming the specificity of the reactions. These data are consistent with observations we made during the different Ebola outbreaks that occurred in Gabon and the Republic of Congo in recent years. We observed that some dogs ate fresh remains of Ebola virus infected dead animals brought back to the villages, and that others licked vomit from Ebola virus-infected patients. Together, these findings strongly suggest that dogs can be infected by Ebola virus, and that some pet dogs living in affected villages were infected during the 2001-2002 human Ebola virus outbreak. No circulating Ebola antigens or viral DNA sequences (tested by PCR) were detected in either positive or negative serum specimens, and attempts to isolate virus from these samples failed. These findings indicate either old, transient Ebola infection of the tested dogs, or antigenic stimulation."

Not clear whether they were actually infected (or just exposed to inactive virus), but they had antibodies.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:34 | 5296776 Kinskian
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Dallas County health officials and a District Court judge all went in the Duncan apartment without PPE being worn. Compare that with the doctors and nurses who continue to become infected following level 4 protocols. The CDC is reported to have allowed some of Duncan's close contacts out of quarantine (Louise's daughter and son-in-law).  If there isn't another case to come from Duncan it will be blind luck. The Obama administration is adamant that there will be no ban on travel to the US from W. Africa. They will eventually be forced to change this insane policy. 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:04 | 5296892 freedogger
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By the time Obola gets around to banning flights, Ebola could be so prevalent in the USA that letting a few more in or out won't make a difference.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:57 | 5297077 Kinskian
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I don't think it will take that long for Obama to give in to pressure. He said he was confident in the Secret Service director, and the next day she was gone.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:47 | 5297395 FreedomGuy
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Democrats make everything a political issue, even disease. The President had better get a little luck and hope this thing does not spread. It if does he and the whole Democrat party will become the party of ebola and you can rest assured nearly 100% of them will go down in political defeat...if not worse.

This is what happens when genuinely stupid, sociopathic primarily political people run your life.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:05 | 5296377 Infinite QE
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Does anyone know if this current strain is the one the US owns the patent on?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:18 | 5296458 ltsgt1
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Something has to be done to contain the Chinese economic expansion in Africa.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:05 | 5296658 knukles
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"Something has to be done with China and Africa"
Made it a tad clearer for the myopic and liberal mindset.

Hah ha ha ha ha
Just think.  It's the darlings of the Progressives who are all for the culling.
Gates, Soros .....

Ah, the irony of it all

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:15 | 5296701 netsludge
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Does anyone know if this current strain is the one the US owns the patent on?

It is not.

Source:

http://www.corbettreport.com/episode-293-the-ebola-effect/

http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-949-financial-survival-us-to-stay...

 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:10 | 5296397 onewayticket2
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with the CDC and NIH recommending free travel for maximum human interaction (baffling to me) as the best way to contain the disease, this researcher is on the right track.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:20 | 5296469 Handful of Dust
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Yes, but the CDC said quarantining only spreads the infection worse.

 

It's one of those paradoxes.

Sort of like "a jobless rekovery."

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:52 | 5296613 CaptainMoonlight
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Obama's pattern: do all wrong. 

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 02:12 | 5297780 flyingcaveman
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That's how you save a sinking ship.  You seal off the damaged/flooding compartments sometimes with the damage control crew still in them. 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:09 | 5296399 himaroid
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Another little baby child is born,

In the ghetto.

And his mama cries.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:05 | 5297283 25or6to4
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His mama cries for another EBT card with a higher limit and increased WIC benefits. Welcome new FSA member.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:10 | 5296401 SocialismIsCancer
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If humans did not engage in reckless unlimited breeding, like bacteria in a cesspool, then there would be no ebola, and no peverty, and no worries about epidemics.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:50 | 5296597 thamnosma
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People in the US have no idea what absolute hellholes humans have turned much of the planet into.  Lagos has 21 million people living in squalor.  Just imagine the sewage systems there (or not there).  Wonder how the fishing is?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:17 | 5296709 g'kar
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"Wonder how the fishing is?"

 

 

I hear the brown trout are running pretty good

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:45 | 5296815 max2205
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Give it time, we only got toilets and sewers 100 years ago....AC 50 years ago

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 01:36 | 5297747 Uber Vandal
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Actually, the Romans and many other ancient civilizations had running water, toilets,  and sewers centuries before we did.

 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:18 | 5296719 decon
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You can probably catch a limit of brown trout in minutes!

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:58 | 5296868 tenpanhandle
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Fishing that river - thats not all you'll catch.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:20 | 5296956 Rusty Shorts
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CNBCAfrica  (that's right, CNBC)

 

The Great Wall of Lagos is a three and a half kilometre long construction that has been described as one of the world's biggest civil engineering projects; creating eight thousand square meters of new land every day. 

The Eko Atlantic city project has been developed to meet two needs of Lagos State's Victoria Island; space creation and vital protection from the ever encroaching shoreline. The project has now reached the half way stage in land reclamation; we take a look at what this milestone means to the development and what's in store next.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GknxEm5zXzY

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:31 | 5296994 thamnosma
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No end to the insanity.  Just waiting for the zombies.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:27 | 5297171 Yes_Questions
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small camel toe at 2:45

 

cool construction project too.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:57 | 5297270 25or6to4
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SocialismIsCancer
"If southern hemisphere humans did not engage in reckless unlimited breeding"......There, fixed it for you.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:20 | 5296423 modric
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A more balanced view at last.

 

edit: I feel between the shit we get from msm/tptb and zero hdge i really dont know what to believe. Total confusion but i suppose like always the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:14 | 5296425 ebworthen
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People will say "He's an old researcher, we have better methods now and know more."

Yeah sure.  If he's worried I'm worried.  He makes a great point about a "perfect storm".

BTW - Cramer hasn't mentioned GT Advanced Technologies on his show yet today, for some reason.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:19 | 5296722 BigJim
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Cramer wants us to look forward, not back.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:14 | 5296431 Jugdish
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Send in Dr Kermit Gosnell.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:06 | 5296663 knukles
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Isn't he the green frog dude?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:33 | 5296998 Jugdish
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Check Google images for more about info. His medical achievements are to numerous to list here. 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:18 | 5296435 whirling tword ...
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I'll become less worried when the African outbreak stops doubling every 20 days. ( and a working vaccine is found )

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:13 | 5297299 argoz
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As of Oct 1, total cases were 7,482 and deaths were 3,439.  There is an article from Breitbart that says Sierra Leone just reported 121 deaths in a single day.  Thats one every 12 minutes.  As of Aug 31, the WHO had total cases at 3,685 and deaths at 1,841, so total cases have done a bit more than a double in 31 days and deaths a bit less than a double.  Of course how many volenteers are there for counting dead people.

Nov 1 = 15,000

Dec 1 = 30,000

Jan 1 = 60,000

Ten months later the CDC and Frieden will admit that it is airborn.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:18 | 5296445 AustrianJim
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After Yambuku, you spent the next 30 years of your professional life devoted to combating Aids.

This key sentence tells you everything you need to know about this guy.


Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:18 | 5296456 nmewn
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A bonafide winner to be sure...lol.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:47 | 5296573 walküre
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he followed the funding ..

probably got grants researching how climate change is affecting the spread of HIV

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:08 | 5297291 Yes_Questions
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"combating" aids..

 

and +1 from here since the site won't let me green this

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:11 | 5297457 Abbie Normal
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To up (or down) arrow a comment that begins with a quote, click near the commenter's name, then tab twice to get to the up arrow, and press the Enter key to vote.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:50 | 5297578 AustrianJim
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Yikes, I'll never start a post with a quote again!

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:17 | 5296449 nmewn
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Send in the all powerful compassionate blue helmets ;-)

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:51 | 5296604 thamnosma
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Wonder how the 3,000 serfs Obola sent over there are doing...

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:46 | 5297045 lakecity55
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"General, we cannot raise anyone on the radio in that entire unit."

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:53 | 5297413 falconflight
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"It's like they all just disappeared."

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 02:46 | 5297792 LithiumWarsWAKEUP
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  just "key the mike if you can hear me, son"...

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:21 | 5296465 buzzsaw99
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And they might even infect a few people here who may then die. But an outbreak in Europe or North America would quickly be brought under control...

Add this maggot's name to the list of assholes to blame when it gets out of control.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:46 | 5296582 CaptainMoonlight
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To shoot, you mean.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:00 | 5296645 Tenshin Headache
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If this breaks bad, either the shooter or the shootee is likely to be dead. That's one way to resolve conflict!

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:25 | 5296490 kowalli
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he is definitely lying

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:44 | 5296577 CaptainMoonlight
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Was thinking same exact thing. 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:53 | 5296606 kowalli
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But that is just speculation, isn't it?

Certainly. But it is just one of many possible ways the virus could change to spread itself more easily. And it is clear that the virus is mutating

- that is just not a speculation - he knows the truth and this all interview is a lie

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:28 | 5296491 limacon
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"Kinshasa , mon amour"

 

xxxxxx New: bad news. This is getting serious .

A new Black Death :

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-06/new-york-times-some-may-carry-ebola-without-showing-any-symptoms

See http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2010/10/epidemics-without-pathogen-transmission.html

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Previous

The time to panic is before the Titanic has left the harbour .See

http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2014/08/ebola-friendly-reaper_6.html

If the Triffids don't get you, Ebola will : seehttp://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2014/08/deader-guide-to-ebola.html

Plants have been breeding humans . See

http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2011/05/ebola-and-chocolate.html

Further examples of the Plant-Herbivore Wars :

http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2011/04/garlic-and-plant-herbivore-wars.html

http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2013/07/rabies-alzheimers-and-formic-acid....     Notice the cute trick to penetrate skin barriers . Reminiscent of hemorrhagic diseases like Ebola and Especially SuperEbola .

SuperEbola is Ebola on steroids , then add some . The Fifth Horseman on a Harley !  : see

http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2013/01/training-immune-system.html

for the desperate . : See

http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2006/03/training-immune.html

 

Good luck !

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:26 | 5296494 vegas
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Translation: "Anybody that trusts anything government says about this shit is a complete idiot."

 

www.traderzoo.mobi

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:14 | 5297125 Tenshin Headache
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They've lied about so many other things, these politicians, that even were they to briefly tell the truth no one would believe them.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:15 | 5297478 Abbie Normal
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The old Harry Mudd conumdrum -- if everything they say is a lie, what does it mean if they say they're lying?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:30 | 5296511 Cautiously Pess...
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The 70's.  Ebola discovered, Exploding Ford Pintos, President Nixon suspending convertibility of dollar into GOLD, Three Mile Island disaster, The movie  Airport '77, the entire Presidency of Jimmy Carter, plaid pants and butterfly collars, etc. etc.

 

Good Times!  Good Times I tell ya'

 

 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:49 | 5296586 knukles
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                                               blotter acid, windowpane and real peyote

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:59 | 5296642 Oliver Klozoff
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Mr. Natural

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 03:56 | 5297827 The9thDoctor
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The 1970s sucked because I was exiled to planet earth and the Time Lords disabled my TARDIS.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:47 | 5296824 himaroid
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bennies, blow & bourbon

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:05 | 5296895 tenpanhandle
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Ah, now I get it Knucks.  Thats a rabbit hole yer lookin out of.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:45 | 5297385 MrSteve
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The White Rabbit hole... and livin' on reds, vitamin C and cocaine.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:48 | 5297392 25or6to4
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CP
You forgot bell bottom pants.....bell bottoms I say!

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:30 | 5296512 Colonel Klink
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Anybody have an answer as to why they turned away the colloidal silver from being delivered if it's been shown to be effective?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:38 | 5296537 Cautiously Pess...
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The Silver Queen, Blythe Masters, may know.  A little waterboarding may be necessary to get her to talk though.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:44 | 5296579 Colonel Klink
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I've been praying to the imaginary old grey bearded guy in the sky that the bitch will catch Ebola, along with all the other scumbags in Washington DC and Fraud street.

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