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Doctor Who Discovered Ebola In 1976 Fears "Unimaginable Tragedy"

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"In 1976 I discovered Ebola - now I fear an unimaginable tragedy" - Peter Piot was a researcher at a lab in Antwerp when a pilot brought him a blood sample from a Belgian nun who had fallen mysteriously ill in Zaire. Now, the Director of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine warns, "around June it became clear to me there was something different about this outbreak. I began to get really worried."

Via The Guardian,

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After Yambuku, you spent the next 30 years of your professional life devoted to combating Aids. But now Ebola has caught up to you again. American scientists fear that hundreds of thousands of people could ultimately become infected. Was such an epidemic to be expected?

No, not at all. On the contrary, I always thought that Ebola, in comparison to Aids or malaria, didn't present much of a problem because the outbreaks were always brief and local. Around June it became clear to me that there was something fundamentally different about this outbreak. At about the same time, the aid organisation Médecins Sans Frontières sounded the alarm. We Flemish tend to be rather unemotional, but it was at that point that I began to get really worried.

Why did WHO react so late?

On the one hand, it was because their African regional office isn't staffed with the most capable people but with political appointees. And the headquarters in Geneva suffered large budget cuts that had been agreed to by member states. The department for haemorrhagic fever and the one responsible for the management of epidemic emergencies were hit hard. But since August WHO has regained a leadership role.

There is actually a well-established procedure for curtailing Ebola outbreaks: isolating those infected and closely monitoring those who had contact with them. How could a catastrophe such as the one we are now seeing even happen?

I think it is what people call a perfect storm: when every individual circumstance is a bit worse than normal and they then combine to create a disaster. And with this epidemic there were many factors that were disadvantageous from the very beginning. Some of the countries involved were just emerging from terrible civil wars, many of their doctors had fled and their healthcare systems had collapsed. In all of Liberia, for example, there were only 51 doctors in 2010, and many of them have since died of Ebola.

The fact that the outbreak began in the densely populated border region between Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia ...

… also contributed to the catastrophe. Because the people there are extremely mobile, it was much more difficult than usual to track down those who had had contact with the infected people. Because the dead in this region are traditionally buried in the towns and villages they were born in, there were highly contagious Ebola corpses travelling back and forth across the borders in pickups and taxis. The result was that the epidemic kept flaring up in different places.

For the first time in its history, the virus also reached metropolises such as Monrovia and Freetown. Is that the worst thing that can happen?

In large cities – particularly in chaotic slums – it is virtually impossible to find those who had contact with patients, no matter how great the effort. That is why I am so worried about Nigeria as well. The country is home to mega-cities like Lagos and Port Harcourt, and if the Ebola virus lodges there and begins to spread, it would be an unimaginable catastrophe.

Have we completely lost control of the epidemic?

I have always been an optimist and I think that we now have no other choice than to try everything, really everything. It's good that the United States and some other countries are finally beginning to help. But Germany or even Belgium, for example, must do a lot more. And it should be clear to all of us: This isn't just an epidemic any more. This is a humanitarian catastrophe. We don't just need care personnel, but also logistics experts, trucks, jeeps and foodstuffs. Such an epidemic can destabilise entire regions. I can only hope that we will be able to get it under control. I really never thought that it could get this bad.

What can really be done in a situation when anyone can become infected on the streets and, like in Monrovia, even the taxis are contaminated?

We urgently need to come up with new strategies. Currently, helpers are no longer able to care for all the patients in treatment centres. So caregivers need to teach family members who are providing care to patients how to protect themselves from infection to the extent possible. This on-site educational work is currently the greatest challenge. Sierra Leone experimented with a three-day curfew in an attempt to at least flatten out the infection curve a bit. At first I thought: "That is totally crazy." But now I wonder, "why not?" At least, as long as these measures aren't imposed with military power.

A three-day curfew sounds a bit desperate.

Yes, it is rather medieval. But what can you do? Even in 2014, we hardly have any way to combat this virus.

Do you think we might be facing the beginnings of a pandemic?

There will certainly be Ebola patients from Africa who come to us in the hopes of receiving treatment. And they might even infect a few people here who may then die. But an outbreak in Europe or North America would quickly be brought under control. I am more worried about the many people from India who work in trade or industry in west Africa. It would only take one of them to become infected, travel to India to visit relatives during the virus's incubation period, and then, once he becomes sick, go to a public hospital there. Doctors and nurses in India, too, often don't wear protective gloves. They would immediately become infected and spread the virus.

The virus is continually changing its genetic makeup. The more people who become infected, the greater the chance becomes that it will mutate ...

... which might speed its spread. Yes, that really is the apocalyptic scenario. Humans are actually just an accidental host for the virus, and not a good one. From the perspective of a virus, it isn't desirable for its host, within which the pathogen hopes to multiply, to die so quickly. It would be much better for the virus to allow us to stay alive longer.

Could the virus suddenly change itself such that it could be spread through the air?

Like measles, you mean? Luckily that is extremely unlikely. But a mutation that would allow Ebola patients to live a couple of weeks longer is certainly possible and would be advantageous for the virus. But that would allow Ebola patients to infect many, many more people than is currently the case.

But that is just speculation, isn't it?

Certainly. But it is just one of many possible ways the virus could change to spread itself more easily. And it is clear that the virus is mutating.

You and two colleagues wrote a piece for the Wall Street Journal supporting the testing of experimental drugs. Do you think that could be the solution?

Patients could probably be treated most quickly with blood serum from Ebola survivors, even if that would likely be extremely difficult given the chaotic local conditions. We need to find out now if these methods, or if experimental drugs like ZMapp, really help. But we should definitely not rely entirely on new treatments. For most people, they will come too late in this epidemic. But if they help, they should be made available for the next outbreak.

Testing of two vaccines is also beginning. It will take a while, of course, but could it be that only a vaccine can stop the epidemic?

I hope that's not the case. But who knows? Maybe.

In Zaire during that first outbreak, a hospital with poor hygiene was responsible for spreading the illness. Today almost the same thing is happening. Was Louis Pasteur right when he said: "It is the microbes who will have the last word"?

Of course, we are a long way away from declaring victory over bacteria and viruses. HIV is still here; in London alone, five gay men become infected daily. An increasing number of bacteria are becoming resistant to antibiotics. And I can still see the Ebola patients in Yambuku, how they died in their shacks and we couldn't do anything except let them die. In principle, it's still the same today. That is very depressing. But it also provides me with a strong motivation to do something. I love life. That is why I am doing everything I can to convince the powerful in this world to finally send sufficient help to west Africa. Now!

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And that's the scientist that discovered this monstrous virus!!

 

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Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:50 | 5296595 CaptainMoonlight
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Adding to your dream...

Seeing Obama, Killary, Pelosi, Holder and Bloomberg get all red in the eyes, and then start vomiting and shitting blood on themselves at some kind of anti-gun summit... aw now that is dream power. 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:03 | 5296654 Colonel Klink
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The list is truly endless for those who DESERVE a horrible death.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:08 | 5296904 tenpanhandle
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"Seeing Obama, Killary, Pelosi, Holder and Bloomberg get all red in the eyes, and then start vomiting and shitting blood on themselves "

 

Now thats something I could vote for.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:53 | 5296612 geox
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The party just started at the Spanish Kingdom.

 

http://www.elmundo.es/madrid/2014/10/06/5432bb62e2704e347a8b4577.html?a=...

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 00:40 | 5297391 IridiumRebel
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¡¡¡ Hay chengada !!!

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:33 | 5296520 Seize Mars
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Ok just one quick question.
No Ebola in Europe?
M'kay.
Just askin.'

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:44 | 5296569 CaptainMoonlight
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No, that was yesterday. 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:06 | 5296664 nmewn
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The Spanish version of Do Not Panic! ;-)

"Minister Ana Mato wanted to send a message to citizens. "We have professionals superbly trained to deal with such situations and with the technical and organizational capacity to cope with such situations," he assured.

"You may rest assured that both the ministry and the authorities of the Community of Madrid work collaboratively to ensure patient care and safety for staff and the entire population", he emphasized.

Likewise they have indicated that "have activated all the mechanisms to bring all available treatments."


Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:22 | 5296732 BigJim
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Well, I feel reassured.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:00 | 5296871 nmewn
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You should...lol...obviously the best & brightest minds in governments across the entire planet are working on this and your money & freedom are of no concern to them in beating this thing back!

Clearly this calls for an Ebola Summit!!!...in Maui ;-)

 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:31 | 5296988 Rusty Shorts
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... "activated all the mechanisms" sounds like "Endeavor to persevere"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRX6hSGeZs4

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:39 | 5297208 nmewn
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Mmm, one of my favorite movies, "Dying ain't much of a livin."...classic.

Along with Cool Hand Luke of course ;-)

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:31 | 5296991 Things that go bump
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Unfortunately, the sick lady is one of those superbly trained professionals.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:33 | 5297189 nmewn
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They always fail to underscore these salient points for some reason ;-)

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:47 | 5297571 Urban Roman
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These are not the filoviruses you are looking for. Move along...

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:57 | 5296632 nmewn
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Well, if it kicks off it will be in the Canada Real Galiana area.

Its a lovely tourist destination that should be on everyones radar, just outside Madrid ;-)

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:33 | 5296769 walküre
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the infected is a nurse and she kept mostly to herself they'll say

 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:10 | 5296908 nmewn
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She was just taking his temperature if I recall the article correctly.

I'll assume not rectally ;-)

All dark humor aside (no pun intended) I think we need to cordone it off. We have a general idea what the incubation period is (notwithstanding carriers not showing symptoms but passing it) so I'm sorry for the people in Sierra Leone, Liberia etc. but you're not leaving and anyone who goes there has to wait (apart from the general population) for thirty days to return.

Then maybe we can get back to regular ZH, sans ebola hysteria.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:27 | 5297167 didthatreallyhappen
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does spain count?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:37 | 5296540 Rusty Shorts
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... "The fact that the outbreak began in the densely populated border region between Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia ..."

 

what? these borders are bush country

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:56 | 5296625 thamnosma
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We're all Guinea pigs now

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:42 | 5296553 rtalcott
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I didn't know "Dr. Who" discovered ebola!

EDIT: OK I apologize....this was covered in Post #1

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:42 | 5296561 CaptainMoonlight
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Just what you want is another optimist, when Ebola is rapidly devouring the ass of the planet. Torso is next.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:03 | 5296655 Tenshin Headache
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Most scientists are optimists. If you've ever done experimental science, especially basic research, you know that most things you try in a lab don't work. But, you think, you will find the trick that makes it happen next time, or the time after that, or the time after that.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 18:54 | 5296614 himaroid
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Dude lost me when he called a three day curfew "medieval".

As compared to the effects of Ebola?

Real sturdy medical professionals these days.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:13 | 5296693 knukles
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Yes....  Strange perverted concept.
The Cordon Sanitaire has been the only .... absolutely only method ever tried and .....   succeeded to contain   ..... note "to contain" the spread of the hemorrhagic fevers.
Nothing else has ever ever worked.

To assume something else will do the trick is unbelievably ignorant.

Further.... everybody keeps "debating" whether the strain currently at large is "airborne" versus "aerosol".  The documentation with respect to every single last outbreak of this stuff has always concluded that it has in fact been airborne, starting with Reston and following on.

Period.  Don't listen to the "professionals."  They're by and large in government employ and we already understand the stellar results of that tribe of folks.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:51 | 5297053 Oliver Klozoff
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knuks, you just don't get it.

The people that are appointed to these positions are smarter than you. After all they were smart enough to hook up with obozo's meteoric rise.

They know better than to try what works and will gladly risk everything and everybody because they know more.

Sheesh.

 

(but meteors fall, right?)

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:02 | 5296648 MATA HAIRY
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Who's on first?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:09 | 5296674 Creeps
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Eeeebooolaaaaaa

Looks like Joy Camp is reading McMolotov's comments

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kfwfMFBV34g

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:13 | 5296685 Zoomorph
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He's very worried about Africa and India but admits that the virus isn't going to harm first world countries. He appears to think that thousands dead in Africa is a bad thing rather than nature's way of telling the Africans that they can't each have 15 babies without repercussions.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:41 | 5296798 walküre
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They can and they do. Nature doesn't discern. Why are they not evolving is the real question. Religion doesn't help them as the Catholic Church still advocates against condoms there. Beautiful continent and breathtaking lands but crazy fucked up people that are mentally and culturally 1000s of years behind. Really makes one wonder where we come from.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:27 | 5297163 gwar5
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Having lots of kids is an anceint form of social security in poor countries. The ones that survive get to take care of mom and dad.  

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 16:30 | 5299371 Kobe Beef
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Wrong. This is how K-selected, future time oriented people think. And did. 

R-selected hominids have poor future time orientation and just fuck a lot. With a life expectancy around 50, there's not a lot of enfeebled, senile elderly to be taken care of. With multiple children sired by multiple absent fathers, family stability is not assured. In the r-selected environment, having lots of children is a parasitical strategy employed to reap greater benefits from the society. However, when everybody is employing the same strategy, societal benefits come to be spread quite thinly, or just amassed by the most violent entity in the population. 

"It takes a village to raise (idiots)."

or..

"Remember to have your pets spayed or neutered."

 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:12 | 5296688 Duc888
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thanmosma: People in the US have no idea what absolute hellholes humans have turned much of the planet into.  Lagos has 21 million people living in squalor.  Just imagine the sewage systems there (or not there).  Wonder how the fishing is?

 

I hear you can catch "brown trout" with your bare hands there...

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:39 | 5297372 MrSteve
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Didn't Robert Redford as Jeremiah Johnson do that bare-handed fishing thing in an icy stream, in the movies?

Sat, 10/11/2014 - 17:07 | 5296689 Fuku Ben
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Previously posted information + addendums available privately

Contact me

Remember time is money & money is bullion

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:18 | 5296702 Duc888
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Monkey Meat and Ebola in Africa

Hahahahahaha don't eat the bush meat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XasTcDsDfMg

 

 

 

Hey, we need to talk to General Butt Naked.

He's got the program.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRuSS0iiFyo

 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:42 | 5297023 lakecity55
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........monkey meat?
Damn, Chalky must be full of those germs.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:26 | 5297331 Dragon HAwk
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that's a damn scary video. Where is the guy who wanted pictures of victims..

  don't go there  you have been warned...

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:37 | 5296787 papaswamp
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Im surprised it hasnt shown up in the Caribbean... Or it has and no one knows it yet.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:33 | 5297187 Infinite QE
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It's coming into winter vacation time and any cases there will be withheld from the press.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:38 | 5296788 Fix It Again Timmy
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During the Spanish Flu pandemic, it wasn't unusal for a person to suddenly feel ill at work, get on a trolley car at the end of the day and die before the trolley got to the victim's destination...talk about bad ass...

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:43 | 5296807 SilverFish
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The only thing that can stop this is the Sonic Screwdriver.

 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:48 | 5296814 NuYawkFrankie
Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:45 | 5296818 flyingcaveman
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All that gold in India aught to nuy them a cure.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 19:53 | 5296848 himaroid
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There are not really many Missionaries that will hang with me, but I do know one real fine young dude with his bride and two wee kiddies who has just been unexpectedly called back home by the Baptist Mission Board following three years of and open ended mission to India.

Someone knows something. 

Thank goodness.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:39 | 5297015 lakecity55
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"Welcome to Washington, Mr Modi."
"Thank you, Mr president."
"Here, try some of this special sauce on your food."
"Uh, that looks like a test tube."
"Really? Hey, it does! I hadn't noticed."

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:17 | 5296945 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen Caveman,

How many cases will "POPUP" in Israel?

*********"ZERO"**********

Get it? Do "YOU" get it?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:24 | 5297154 didthatreallyhappen
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LMAO times 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 01:48 | 5297749 tarabel
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Get it? Do "YOU" get it?

Sure I get it.

Israel already lives under a continuous state of siege every day. People do not randomly go tripping across the border and their airline security is already top notch. Not to mention that their medical system is already attuned to potential biohazard attack vectors.

Ramping up a few extra protocols is not a big problem for them. Also, not a lot of Jews left in Africa (most driven back to Israel long ago) so the number of potential tourists and immigrants from these Ebola-stricken regions that have significant Muslim populations is a pretty tiny pool to draw from.

So the question is: "Do YOU get it?"

Probably not. Just because there is a rational explanation for an as-yet-undetermined variable in the equation does not mean that you are going to drop your silly racist conspiracy rants in favor of an obvious journey into the world of reality.

How about beautiful downtown Bangalore? My suspicion is that you guys are most definitely going to "get it". Why? Well, for all the reasons that Israel is less likely to. Porous Third World borders, health care system and sanitary practices coupled with overpopulation and a government that is largely indifferent to the hundreds of millions of impoverished peoples within its sphere of control.

Do I think that surgically-altered zionist agents are at this moment licking toilet seats in darkest India? No, but I have few doubts that a number of Indian citizens are returning from Africa and sharing their experiences with the stay-at-homes.

And that goes double for China, which has been poking its nose into every nook and cranny of Africa for quite some time. I think they are going to "get it" as well.

Of course, God willing, it may be that nobody will "get it" and I pray that is the case for Jew, gentile, muslim, and everyone else. I wouldn't wish this thing on anybody. Even you. Get it?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:00 | 5296849 NuYawkFrankie
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Osama , Ebola, Obama: Death's Trifecta

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:34 | 5297001 lakecity55
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"Under my  Administartion, Obola will have to increase."

*****

"Hey, Reggie, are you eating out tonight?"
"Yeah. I'm tired of the WH salad bar."
"Say, while you are at the restaurant, how about dumping these vials into the buffet items."
"Okay."
"Plan on a taxi?"
"Nah, I'll jus take a bus."
"Great! Here, pour a few more vials out on the bus!"
"Uhh, OK, but what's in thse things?"
"A new perfume I am working on. Just for you!"

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:14 | 5297129 HardlyZero
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Paralysis: Enterovirus D68.   (new polio)

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:01 | 5296883 robnume
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It's not nice to fool Mother Nature.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:08 | 5296898 hotrod
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No, not at all. On the contrary, I always thought that Ebola, in comparison to Aids or malaria, didn't present much of a problem because the outbreaks were always brief and local. Around June it became clear to me that there was something fundamentally different about this outbreak.Then I read that the CDC had a patent on a mutated super Ebola virus which would explain why this is happening.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:09 | 5296912 FeralSerf
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London and Washington and their Zioligarch owners haven't been overjoyed about the new invasion of Africa by the Chinese (in addition to the Indians). Ebola, coincidentally, should dampen some of the Asian enthusiasm.

FDR said, in politics there are no coincidences.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:16 | 5296939 bigrooster
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If a nurse in a "developed" country like Spain comes down with Ebola you know it is NOT CONTAINED!  The government will lie until...they will always lie.  Buy 6 months of stuff now that you would normally buy over the next 6 months.  If nothing else you know that it will be cheaper now then in six months from now.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:17 | 5296944 q99x2
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The rest of the aids research scientists that were studying ebola died in the Malaysian flight over Ukraine. I wonder if he can tell if this variety of ebola has been partially weaponized or if the ranting about how fast this virus mutates is to cover up the fact that Loyd Blankfein is behind it.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:20 | 5296959 tumblemore
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The PC part of the problem is bigger than the medical part - so we're probably ****ed.

 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:36 | 5297009 Atomizer
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1976 was the Bicentennial year. Did you think you would become nigger rich finding Ebola after fucking a teenager slave in Africa?

 

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:59 | 5297087 Atomizer
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Get over the down votes. This guy is going to hit the front page news. Children Sex ring. They always seek attention. 

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 00:07 | 5297620 robertocarlos
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I was down-voted for saying Putin DID NOT score 6 goals in one hockey game.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 01:18 | 5297730 Rock On Roger
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Didn't you see the photos.

That evil man has stolen Santa's reindeer!

Oh woe

Befall us all.

 

No Xmas!

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:39 | 5297014 Shizzmoney
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Bullish on the makers of Lamivudine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamivudine

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 20:54 | 5297062 j8h9
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and coffins

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:17 | 5297124 HardlyZero
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Almost as scary and already out in society...the new POLIO.  EV-D68 may have already paralyzed 100's and maybe more.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/10/141006-polio-california-...

 

 

and this...

Many Cases

 

To Greenberg’s surprise, almost every doctor on the call, from Boston to Chicago to Los Angeles, had seen at least one case of unexplained paralysis in the past several months, and some had seen as many as 10.

 

Similar Look

While there were some variations, most images from medical scans of those with paralysis looked strikingly similar, with the connection between the spinal cord and the muscles killed off with little chance of rebuilding the bridge -- just like seen in scans of those infected with polio, Greenberg said.

“There were remarkable similarities,” said Van Haren, who was also on the doctors’ conference call. “They sounded like interchangeable cases.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-06/doctors-target-virus-as-link-to...

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 21:53 | 5297253 Rootin' for Putin
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Dr Who discovered ebola in 1976?  So.. Tom Baker?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:17 | 5297310 Spastica Rex
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It could have been any of his incarnations; the year just identifes when he discovered it, relative to Earth's timeline. I bet it wasn't the 11th, though.

I'm digging Peter Capaldi.

Huzzah for old men.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:06 | 5297448 Rootin' for Putin
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Capaldi is rocking it i agree.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:16 | 5297308 gann1212
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just reading the coming plague by laurie garret. want to educate myself on this stuff. she has a section on ebola about 50 pages long which i am just starting to read. i dont have a lot of confidence in containment because the governments of the world are more interested in looking in control than being in control. and i get the feeling this is not really being taken seriously. we are all going to find out together for better or worse.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:47 | 5297393 Tenshin Headache
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I watched an interview with her. She is very concerned about the situation, and feels we are behind the curve in controlling the outbreak. She mentioned a couple of countries she felt should be doing much more. She looked tired and worried.

Might tuck into her book myself.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:25 | 5297335 justtotaketheedgeoff
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So I read that MERS could be an even bigger threat than Ebola so I go to the CDC website and stumble across how to avoid becoming infected and one of the suggestions was "Avoid drinking raw camel urine." Damn! And I was just getting ready to mix up a camel urine spritzer! Guess I'll have to go with a goat vomit smoothie instead.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 00:43 | 5297671 JoJoJo
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It would be considered very insensitive to equate the cause of Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndeome MERS with Middle Easterners eating camel meat and drinking camel Issued drinking beverages. So hush.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 08:42 | 5298223 HardlyZero
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If you drink your own vomit you will be protected.

I guess you could also boil your own pee too.

Stillsuits anyone ?  (Dune)  Fear is the mind killer.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:35 | 5297358 Barley Burnside
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Nostradamus predicted three antchrists, Napoleon, Hitler and a Muslim from an Asian nation.And the great plague shall be unleashed for tho not know from witch it came. He shall take upon another man tho not marry same man due to external changes. He takes a man disguised as a woman and produces false offspring. Oh the wrath of his anger wildest happend due the falsehood of sacred tee times. He it called out "four" and nearly scathed retched old white man with white ball of title list. Nostradamus 10:4

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:46 | 5297387 falconflight
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Well that's why I'm watching the Walking Dead marathon...gettin psyched...

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:53 | 5297412 gann1212
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want to have a chance to stop this thing. shut down all travel into the country. all into and out of the country. what are the chances of that happening. zero and noe. without doing that i dont believe we have a chance in hell of stopping this thing. just my take . in three months it will be clear to all of us if what we did was right or wrong.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:52 | 5297414 TheDuke
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Doctor Who discovered ebola in 1976 fears "unimaginable tragedy"

 

Wow. Just jump in the tardis then and get this sorted...

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:00 | 5297417 falconflight
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I'll remain weary but not overly concerned until I see exponential growth rates here.  What can I do, and frankly what can anyone do but their jobs and go home.  Avoid unnecessary cavorting with the general public.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 22:57 | 5297427 mendigo
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This guy is a fool - hes talking bs. At this point the question would be: What is the probability that it does not spread to other nations? Id say the answer is: Low. Seems our reps are choosing the path of too little too late as with afganistan and iraq and the us economy. I guess its going according to plan.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:27 | 5297518 q99x2
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Spanish authorities said they were investigating how the nurse became infected at a hospital with modern health care facilities and special equipment for handling cases of deadly viruses. The virus that causes Ebola spreads only through direct contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person showing symptoms.

Never did believe authorities. I'm my own author and I'd say its time to RUN M'Fers.


Tue, 10/07/2014 - 01:07 | 5297716 Rock On Roger
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Rolled up her sleeves

And got to work.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-03/why-americas-not-ready-ebola-ou...

 

Put it in context

How many died driving today?

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:28 | 5297520 sidiji
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Doctor Who didnt discover Ebola!  Besides he's not Doctor Who...unless Who jumped bodies again.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:27 | 5297521 sidiji
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Doctor Who didnt discover Ebola!  Besides he's not Doctor Who...unless Who jumped bodies again.

Mon, 10/06/2014 - 23:35 | 5297544 AdvancingTime
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Americans ignored Ebola while thousands of people died in Africa, now that one person gets sick in America it has become an "Oh My God" moment. This virus has worked overtime to pick up "critical mass." I'm referring to the point where enough people are infected with the virus that it can sustain a chain reaction and expand out of control.

The bad news is Ebola may have already reached critical mass and may now be impossible to contain. The economic and humanitarian implications of this are massive and it could change everything. More on why we should be very concerned in the article below.

 http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/09/ebola-may-have-reached-critical-m...

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 00:04 | 5297612 robertocarlos
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Which would you rather count on in your old age, your company pension or your 15 kids?

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 00:36 | 5297660 TheSpiritOfTheTimes
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India... Hmmm. How about China? Anyone? Never seen a country where hygene is so poor. People running a few drops of water over their fingernails when they come from the toilet. And they love to spit in the street... Talk about body fluids -LOL!

Nobody ever mention China...

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 02:57 | 5297800 LithiumWarsWAKEUP
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somehow I never imagined that humans could be so filthy. Proved me wrong here :

 

http://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pictures/filthy-india-photos-chinese-neti...

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 03:45 | 5297821 Jayda1850
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That's because China wouldn't give a fuck about optics and bring in the guys with the flame throwers. They would and will use everything to maintain containment.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 00:35 | 5297661 JoJoJo
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Obama's CDC director Frieden:"Dont ban flights from West Africa or Ebola will migrate into other parts of Africa instead of coming directly to United States." Paraphrased. SAY WHAT !!! ???

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 00:52 | 5297691 bid the soldier...
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ABLE WAS I ERE I SAW EBOLA

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 01:09 | 5297692 UGrev
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I know this is silly, but when I played plague inc, 80% of the time I infected India first. :)

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 01:05 | 5297712 onmail
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Dark Sun shedding its darkest rays ever.

Obamma came from slaves of west Africa.

So did Ebola.

Obamma has unleased the lowest forms of immorality

by legalizing homosexuality & Drug abuse,

these are the means to drag humankind to the lowest

So nature has unleased its own weapon - Ebola

Nature says - Thats enough humankind

Now reap the results of iniquity

Dark rays of the dark sun

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 01:39 | 5297751 Dublinmick
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I am not a doctor and I didn't discover Ebola but I can give you heads up, it might get strange.

The change on new rune on the Georgia Guide stone probably signifies they engineered the virus finally. 2014

Leave room for nature, leave room for nature.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 02:27 | 5297785 cherry picker
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Off Topic, but as bad as Ebola, if it is true, be careful of DHS folks.

Within the last two weeks several tips came into the Examiner indicating pending dangers to certain groups of citizens. These tips led to a source who, speaking on condition of anonymity, alleges that just after the election a major initiative will be launched against citizens whose values are diametrically opposite to that of Barack Obama and the current Washington elitist leadership in Congress. According to the source, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) will greatly intensify its attacks on freedom oriented citizens.

The source indicated that the those within DHS and the rest of the Obama Administration who support a massive crackdown on the liberties of citizens are ready to make a dramatic move once the midterm elections in November are over. These particular government employees, particularly those at the top levels, believe that Christians, Tea Party participants, and those who support the Constitution and oppose Obama and his "progressive" agenda are dangerous and need to be subjected to a purge.

http://www.examiner.com/article/dhs-to-intensify-attacks-on-freedom-oriented-citizens

It is not hard to believe, it has digressed that far.

The pledged to uphold the Constitution, all of them.  What kind of carrion is running the USA?

 

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 05:58 | 5297903 SmallerGovNow2
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bring it...

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 07:24 | 5297991 bigusdickus
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disguised pump of your site shows what a deuchebag you are.

 

using fear to sell?

You are an asshole

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 09:44 | 5298474 cherry picker
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It was on Yahoo last night.  My site has nothing to do with above.

People like you is what is wrong with the USA and they give you fools a military with WMDs.

The world is in trouble...

 

 

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 03:06 | 5297805 ebear
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"And that's the scientist that discovered this monstrous virus!!"

At least now we know who to blame.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 04:20 | 5297850 damicol
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Just think what it would do to the ISP traffic in Africa without all those emails promising you $10,000,000 from dead dictators if you help

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 04:27 | 5297852 HankPaulson
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Doctor Who Discovered Ebola In 1976 Fears "Unimaginable Tragedy"


So let me get this right: the good doctor is imagining ... the unimaginable? hmmm ...

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 06:02 | 5297905 xcehn
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"Over the last several years, both the US and the world have experienced a series of disruptions and signs that would seem to bode of an ill wind blowing against humanity as a whole.

On virtually every continent, the harbinger of economic chaos or war has either threatened to encompass or has actually taken hold of entire nations, destabilizing a balance which has forever been tenuous at best. Absent of human device, there are then natural cataclysms filling the vacuum.

In addition, we have seen signs in the heavens from a sequence of ongoing Blood Moons, Super Moons, Comets, and even asteroids and the like, while the earth rumbles and shakes at a historically unprecedented rate. Many believe that our world has entered into a new age marking either a significant ending or perhaps a new and rather dire beginning."

http://www.examiner.com/article/an-epidemic-of-plague-and-pestilence-tak...

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 07:14 | 5297975 bigusdickus
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The great news is the climate terrorists, gold pumpers, and vamprie squids will get wiped out and I can watch my oil and gas bill crash....

YIPPEE YI KI YAY motherfucka

 

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 08:21 | 5298143 redd_green
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Larchmont.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 08:47 | 5298234 d edwards
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How long will it be before some jihad johnny wannabe from one of the affected countries goes to join iSiS and he's got ebola?

 

The disease may be able to do what military force hasn't been able to do. interesting thought, no?

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 09:25 | 5298372 oldschool
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It's a two-edged sword -- a new type of suicide bomber is now possible.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 13:54 | 5299115 Overflow-admin
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"three-day curfew sounds a bit desperate"

 

STOP SUGAR-COATING!!! For "flatten a bit" the curve you'd need minimum 21 days curfew. IMO without sufficient medical capacity then 60 days would be APPROPRIATE, because you're still contagious during remission for a while (I think it's around 30 days). 

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 16:43 | 5300610 Livermore Legend
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"........But an outbreak in Europe or North America would quickly be brought under control......."

Indeed.

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