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Spanish Ebola-Infected Nurse Is First Case Of Contagion Out Of Africa; Salzburg Activates Ebola Emergency Response
By now it should be clear to everyone that any myth that the Ebola epidemic, which has clearly gone global, is contained is about as real as the S&P 500 at 2000. And if it isn't, the latest confirmation came moments ago from BBC which reports that a Spanish nurse who treated an Ebola victim in Madrid has contracted the virus herself in the first case of contagion outside Africa, health officials say. What is different about this case is that the nurse contracted the virus in Madrid while she was part of the team that treated Spanish priest Manuel Garcia Viejo, who died of Ebola on 25 September, despite being treated with the same drug regiment that previous is said to have worked on US Ebola patients.
The priest died in the hospital Carlos III de Madrid after catching Ebola in Sierra Leone. He was the second: another Spanish priest, Miguel Pajares, died in August after contracting the virus in Liberia.
The nurse was admitted to hospital on Monday morning with a high fever, Spanish newspaper El Pais said. Doctors isolated the emergency treatment room, the report said.
Once again questions emerge just how the virus is transmitted, because if the nurse, who obviously took every possible precation against the world's most dangerous virus that is supposedly non-airborne, contracted it, then it clearly leads to speculation that Ebola may be transmitted by means other than what the population is being told.
And while the media will surely try to downplay the seriousness of this latest contagtion, it will likely fail:
- SPANISH HEALTH OFFICIAL SAYS HEALTH WORKER WITH EBOLA STARTED TO FEEL SICK ON SEPT. 30
- SPAIN MONITORING 30 MED STAFF WHO WORKED WITH EBOLA PATIENT
- SPAINISH EBOLA PATIENT ENTERED ORIGINAL PATIENT'S ROOM TWICE
- SPAIN EBOLA PATIENT POSS HAD CONTACT W/OTHERS BEFORE SYMPTOMS
But the punchline:
- SPANISH HEALTH OFFICIAL SAYS HEALTH WORKER WITH EBOLA WENT ON HOLIDAY THE DAY AFTER SPANISH PRIEST DIED AND HAS BEEN ON HOLIDAY EVER SINCE
Well, good luck finding everyone she interacted with.
And if that wasn't enough, perhaps the safest and sleepiest city in the world, Mozart's birthplace, Salzburg, hours ago activated its emergency Ebola response after a 15 year old refugee from Liberia was exhibiting Ebola-like signs. From German ORF google-translated:
In the Salzburg State Hospital, a 15-year-old from Liberia is examined for the Ebola virus infection. The young man was picked up on Monday night at the Wals. He claimed to have escaped alone.
In the Salzburg Federal Clinics (SALK) Monday had therefore first the existing emergency plan for the handling of a suspected Ebola are capitalized: The young refugee from Liberia had been taken up in a Flachgauer community. Since Liberia is a country affected by Ebola area, the young man was admitted immediately for evaluation in the country's hospitals. This was confirmed in the evening Salzburg hospital and health speaker Governor Deputy Governor Christian Stöckl (ÖVP).
And cue panic prevention mode:
"It is absolutely too early to speak of a suspected case. The patient must first be examined for possible symptoms throughout. However, the emergency plan has been activated as a precaution in the Salzburg Regional Hospital, and the case is treated as a suspected case. It has paid off, that a meticulous contingency plan for the entire country and in the state hospital in an Ebola-Team was established in the fall of last year by the Regional Health Directorate. The probability that there is an Ebola patient in the refugee may be small, but we have taken all measures to be fully prepared. The crisis team has gathered in a short time and will advise the next steps, resulting from the initial examination of the patient, "said Stoeckl.
Finally, all this is happening as America's own Ebola patient, Thomas Duncan, is in deteriorating, critical condition.
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Oh shit.....
"Authorities state the nurse mainlined 4 pints of the infected patient's blood, and this is how she contracted the Ebola virus."
#Hard-To-Transmit
#sarc
Guns, silver, gold?
Weaponized...
Ebola will fix this, after everyone is infected.
Yessssss, Very Smart... Keep Them West African Planes Coming In To DC...
... Watching Texas...
The spread of the virus which is the same strain as the 2012 Zaire outbreak can be transmitted through the air between pigs and monkeys...
A quick recap of my research so far. What to do if you contract the Ebola virus:
- Drink regular and large amounts of ORS (Oral Rehydration Solution) as soon as the diarrhea starts; this will prevent you from dying of dehydration before your immune system gets to kill the virus. Vomiting should not deter you from continuing with the ORS (just pause for 5-10 minutes, then carry on). See here.
- Flood (as early as possible) your body with constant high volumes of Vitamin C (20'000 - 500'000 mg per day), either intravenously or orally (liposomal delivery), which was proven to effectively combat any virus infection. It will prevent you from dying of scurvy before your immune system gets to kill the virus. See Linus Pauling and this and this.
And keep in mind:
- If this is indeed a bioterror attack by TBTB (which it likely is), it means there is an easy way to survive it. Vitamin C and rehydration are key.
- It's not actually the virus that kills people per-say, it is dehydration or Vitamin C depletion (scurvy).
- The LAST thing to do (as in, the thing NEVER to do) is to report your illness / go to the hospital/doctor (they are not working for you, but for the government).
- Please don't take my word for it, do your own research.
By following this simple advice you'll most likely survive, and need not worry.
... and since there is nothing but PIGS and MONKEYS in D.C. the entire Capitol Region is DOOMED if ebola finds it's way there.
When news broke that the Ebola virus had resurfaced in Uganda, investigators in Canada were making headlines of their own with research indicating the deadly virus may spread between species, through the air. - See more at: http://healthmap.org/site/diseasedaily/article/pigs-monkeys-ebola-goes-a... When news broke that the Ebola virus had resurfaced in Uganda, investigators in Canada were making headlines of their own with research indicating the deadly virus may spread between species, through the air. - See more at: http://healthmap.org/site/diseasedaily/article/pigs-monkeys-ebola-goes-a...We all know that if ever one dual citizen dies of Ebola in the world the official toll reported on the media outlets with be _# million
wasnt usa number 1? why the fuck are the airlines shipping this disease around the globe?
"Out of Africa" sucks
It is a lie that mankind developed and spread from Africa and it is a lie that people with the disease which does originate in Africa, can be safely moved elsewhere.
Lies All Lies
Wait for a bunch of little boys to get Ebola in Madrid.
Pigs and monkeys? Leave Ferguson outta this.
#rayciss
New CDC Guidelines for Ebola Treatment -
Updated October 6, 2014 as approved by Israeli Citizen Head of the United States Center for Disease Control
1) Give Vectors 21 day supply of electrolyte solution & nutritional supplement containing calories, vitamins & essential minerals.
2) Order Vectors to BFE, and to isolate themselves in impermeable, biohazard rated containment bubble for a minimum of 21 days and nights.
That's nice, and kinda obvious to the intelligent and informed person.
Perhaps less obvious but equally important question is how to handle the WC issues and Waste Disposal.
Why not just fucking shoot them and cremate them, and be done with it.
Shouldn't be an issue for all the self-righteous Bible thumpers, who would only get to meet Jesus, etc all that much sooner, right?
"resurrection of the body" might be an issue here
"Out of Africa"
Out of Africa, brought to america,
Said he was fighting on arrival, fighting for survival;
I figure 2 possibles:
- Corporate Profits are so important that the government refuses to do anything to hurt the airlines (GDP & Banking Links)
- Regulation Capture, Airlines & Bankers are lobbying to keep Flights Going to ensure profits are protected
- Also the Open Borders letting Disease Risk into US helps consumption, corporate profits even if it also helps big pharma get the pandemic that will drive demand to the moon and increase health care industry GDP
Joke: Our economy is so fragile that we have to keep the airlines flying into Ebola zones to keep money flowing in the Corporate Banking System
We needed a president to protect the citizens and, we got a political response..... If we have an outbreak or the fear of one, it helps them aquire their goals.
It's really that simple.... This administration will do the opposite of any sane person..... 100% of the time.
four chan wrote:
<<airlines shipping this disease around the globe?>
MONEY $$$
Cash flow. They have a handshake deal (just like TBTF banksters) with the govvie to pay full price for scrapped and contanimated jets.
Salzburg also?! Used to be a nice, safe clean, place.....
...yes, I agree about DC. Perhaps we can launch some ebola zombies into the hallowed halls of Congress! Now that would be a sight to behold! Just like WWZ, corpses splattering about a full house session just might work wonders in this great land of ours.
sarc/
dont panic...:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R-7kmmWRJo
Literally millions of cell phones and camers in West Africa, yet not one picture of a Ebola victim....
The cellphones are on dial-up. It's gonna take a second.
no,, actually the Cell and internet service is very good 4th generation through-out West Africa
Que serum serum, whoever shall bleed shall bleed, the surture is our's to see, que serum serum..........
Dang that was creative, nice job Biggy
ohhh there are millions of images being taken, but a very tiny pipeline to see them, if facebook, twitter, google, and yahoo along with the 10 men that own 99% of the MSM outlets, agree this is "too scary" to talk about or show Americans, you wont see a fucking jpeg!
and that INCLUDES this site!
We literally have 100 trillion in collective .gov and private debt in this country, do you NOT think that is enough incentive to fucking lie about somehting as dangerous to the status quo debt society as this????
Your fucking neighbors will be dying in the streets next door to you, and this .gov will be on the radio and TV lying straight to your fucking face man, in hopes you'll keep watching the football game and buying take out pizza!
Not just the sites, how bout the pipes too. Comcast is owned by Robertson family. If this kosher family decided even a small site on the web was counterproductive they could block it with a simple message such as the server is busy try again later LOL.
Same family that was paying the pregnant Chelsea Clinton 600K a year for farting while carrying the kosher child that will help Hillary get the support she needs to make a run for the White House.
Do you think that they were able to buy up such a large percentage of the data pipes in the USA if certain palms were not promised to be greased later on.
I saw one. Guy sat on a street, in a pool of his own blood, surrounded by tons of people all 20 feet away.
Toronto..
ka-ching, am with you, same with me. Everytime I have searched for some photos on the web...denied. 404, the list is creatively endless. Maybe ZH could host and pay for the top 100 photos!
Photo of Ebola Victim
You mean this guy...
http://i.imgur.com/9U0PEJ3.jpg
Just go to yahoo and search "pics of ebola victims" . Not for the faint of heart.
Tried to put in a link, but I have too many filters.
dupe post
jefferson32
I have heard from three people that colloidal silver may help too.
Never heard of it for anything except bacteria DoChen.
Whatever makes you feel better I suppose,Placebo effect.
Correct on my 5 year history of using it. No anti-viral effect noted. Better to use Zinc or even better Green Tea Extract.
pods
Have Ribavirin in my fridge. Also apolactoferrin has anti-viral properties.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribavirin
Medical uses
Ribavirin is used primarily to treat hepatitis C and viral hemorrhagic fevers (which is an orphan indication in most countries).[4] In this former indication the oral (capsule or tablet) form of ribavirin is used in combination with pegylated interferon alfa.[5][6][7][8] Including in people coinfected with hepatitis B, HIV and in the pediatric population.[7][9][10] Statins may improve this combination's efficacy in treating hepatitis C.[11] Ribavirin is the only known treatment for a variety of viral hemorrhagic fevers, including Lassa fever, Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever, Venezuelan hemorrhagic fever, and Hantavirus infection, although data regarding these infections are scarce and the drug might be effective only in early stages.
Or just stay the fuck away from people with ebola, which could mean isolating yourself.
DoChenRollingBearing: I've heard it as well, but I wasn't able to find any credible info to substantiate it. Btw (for downvoters) sorry if you saw that message for the second time (I had already posted it a couple of days back) - I won't post it again, and I figure if it saves just 1 life it's worth pissing a couple of people off.
DoChen .... CS is good for a lot of stuff.
Hedge your bets and lay hands on a bunch of Vitamin C. At $20 / kilo its a CHEAP bet in case it is useful.
And if not you have fortified lemonade for life.
And get an ozone generator too. (Disinfects rooms)
...re: Vitamins
Costco and Sam's club have the best deal on vitamins. Unless someone has a better source?
Great comments and input from all ZHers...I learn and readalot. Post little. Am amazed at the breadth of insight and knowledge --and practical experience --out there.
Costco? Not even close.
http://www.amazon.com/BulkSupplements-Ascorbic-Vitamin-Powder-1000g/dp/B...
This can be used to make IV solution or combined and taken orally. (see below)
Combine this with Lecithin
http://www.amazon.com/NOW-Foods-Lecithin-Granules-Pounds/dp/B0013OW02S/
Use and Ultrasonic cleaner (vibratory mix)
Now you have liposomal vitamin C that will READILY be absorbed by the body.
There is a lot of conflicting information out there and as the case counts rise in the USA will will start hearing about any treatments that work and what fails. (Vit C or Colloidal Silver) .... anything that boosts your immune system cannot be considered a loss when dealing with Ebola .... and I'm willing to bet that the price of a dose of ZMapp will be far higher than anything we are out here in ZH land trying.
So I'm covering bets / hedging on the fact that one of these might work.
While most of the vitamins and supplements at Costco and Sam's Club may be fine, you may want to educate yourself on bioavailability of diffferently sourced vitamins, minerals and other compounds. How something is manufactured can impact to what degree unwanted contaminants are present, and whether the desired beneficial properties of the substance were mostly destroyed in making it.
A family doctor recommended a local more "holistically" oriented drug store and told me that many of the brands that you find at regular grocery stores are not reliable. Or maybe I'm just a sucker for slick marketing of overpriced supplements. You can check out sites for New Chapter, Healthforce (cheesy site, but I swear by one of their products), Minami, Pure Encapsulations, Numedica, Integrative Therapeutics, etc. A couple of websites such as Mercola.com and naturalnews.com also sell supplements and have info on what to look for (most of it geared to encouraging (scaring) the reader into buying their brand). Don't let perfection be the enemy of the good.
Also, if you opt to go for these more expensive products, be careful buying online unless it is directly from the manufacturer. There are articles and buyer comments about getting knock-offs instead of the real deal from sites like Amazon.
And the best place to start is eating healthy.
It might help.
The real facts on colloidal silver
http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Kill
Its a good read if nothing else.
20 to 500 g of Vitamin C per day? That will help with the diarrhea.
pods
...try a metamucil shooter. Metamucil counteracts being bound up as being too loose. I know of several HIV+ patients that take metamucil to assist their gut with their drug cocktail.
Makes you feel "regular."
I was being sarcastic. One of the biggest issues when you approach 2 g per day of Vitamin C is diarrhea, cramping and vomiting. If chronically overdosed you can form oxalate kidney stones as well.
Tell your HIV patients that they would be better off dropping their drug cocktails and taking a probiotic. Maybe check them for gluten intolerance.
pods
Not aware of 500g doses.
My understanding is to increase your daily dose until you get diarrhea and then lower the dosage a bit.
Anusocracy, that's exactly it. Pods, it's true Vitamin C will cause diarrhea above ~5 grams per day if you're healthy, but that limit increases the sicker you are (according to Linus Pauling). He advocates 18g per day if you have a cold (a bit extreme perhaps). As to that kidney stone thing, I believe it is a myth.
You can "believe" whatever you want. But if you are proffering medical advice that is going to make people sick, I am certainly going to say something.
Your first post listed DAILY dosages of 20-500 grams of Vitamin C.
I have read about Linus Pauling's work on Vitamin C.
I also clicked some of your links. Let's say that I would not be comfortable infusing a 24% Sodium Ascorbate solution, nevermind 3 of them daily. For a total daily dose of Sodium Ascorbate of ~180 grams. I will not run through the Stochiometry of actual free acid dose, but that is motherfucking crazy.
As to the formation of Calcium Oxalate due to high infusion Vitamin C therapy, A quick search found this:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3482487/
"In an early study, 44% of the radioactivity in an intravenous dose of 14C-ascorbic acid was recovered in the urine as oxalic acid [7]"
That is a huge stress on your kidneys and one that I would not be willing to take.
pods
Pods: by believe I meant that 1) credible litterature states it's an unproven myth (which has been addressed by Pauling himself in his book, by the Vitamin C foundation, and many others, just google it and 2) that I (and many other people) take large amounts of Vitamin C and have never had any such problem. But you're right, everyone should reach his own conclusions, that's what I stated as my last point. Plus I'd understand why the .gov would want to scare you away from Vitamin C. And finally, even if it were true, I'd be happy to piss kidney stones if that means surviving ebola.
What I am saying is that what I have looked up regarding Vitamin C metabolism is that much of it is excreted in the urine as oxalic acid. That was from the link I listed.
I take Vitamin C, but nowhere near the doses listed. Usually ~1g per day.
I don't think the government would scare me away from Vitamin C but I do believe there are entrenched powers that like to protect their turf. I do not see it as a conspiracy though. And since there is no money in developing a product that would be freely available, nobody is going to do so.
I like it that people are actually discussing different materials that offer antiviral properties. I have said over and over again the benefits of certain molecules/extracts.
I have personally worked on extracts of ginger, turmeric, green tea, and others and saw activity of most. Green tea being the most potent. I cannot share the data, but I have the reports of the effectiveness against H1N1 and a couple other flu viruses.
Here is one public link to some more in depth work on EGCG:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23072320
I just took issue with one source (which is what all the super high Vitamin C therapy goes off of) being the fountain of everything. All the links I saw were circular to one source. I also take issue of the claims by many makers of CS about how they saw great results in one clinic in Africa for CS curing everything from AIDS to spousal abuse.
Easiest way to survive Ebola is to stop believing the hype, and be aware of your surroundings. It is bad, but not the movies.
pods
Not sure taking a natural blood thinner like Vit. C is a good idea to prevent
a haemoragic disease.
You will bleed out much quicker, not slower.
I use vit. c daily to avoid monthly blood letting to treat polycythaemia vera.
Works fine for me.
Aspirin cures everything. I hear Warfarin does wonders for Ebola patients hahahaha
Winston: not if the bleeding is caused by Vitamin C depletion. From my source above:
Though scurvy is seldom fatal as a primary condition, scurvy also represents only a partial deficiency of vitamin C, the body still has a LOT of vitamin C compared to zero, which ebola causes. Absent ANY vitamin C, blood vessels become very weak and start to lose blood, and platelets become ineffective and unable to trigger clots. So death by ebola is caused by massive internal bleeding and loss of blood, which can be stopped simply by taking enormous doses of vitamin C until the immune system succeeds in killing off the virus.
Could be, but the dosage is going to be very tricky.
Anti biotics are te only predictable drugs.They do the same thing at all doses.
Everything else varies by dose from nothing,to curing, to killing you.
Never in a thousand years would I have ever expected someone to recommend a "metamucil shooter". Truly it is the End of days.
Take it buffered.
liposomal delivery of Vitamin C is probably the most signifigant discovery in our modern era to fight viruses/cancer/bateria illnesses.
not necessarily. the plan could be to release an agent with a higher kill rate than ebola over limited geographical areas.
if you're in one of those areas, you're dead regardless of hydration or vitamin c level.
if you're outside, you live. no vaccines or special treatments necessary.
the 24/7 coverage of the rash of zombie face chewing inside the kill zones will provide a 'mandate' for martial law. zmapp will be portrayed as having saved the day.
Then all 535 plus 1 and his wife are screwed
Hillary and Barrack, and just a little too much curiosity?
They keep stopping in Maine too. If they were so sure why not DC instead?
and still, the CDC director is out today saying this will happen only in the most remote of scenarios.
well, the soundbite had a lifespan of about 4 hours.
"if you like your Health, you can keep it....period!"
Im not a doctor, but lets put some common sense thinking to work here and talk this out!
The doctor and medical staff are getting this even while being "protected" IMO, because it appears they are being lied to about this strain of Ebola, while they treat patients! Instaed of being washed down as they leave the "infected zone", they are descrubbing around each other but "not touching" each other, as you would if you believed the .gov story about the transmission of this current strain.
However, if the virus is airborne it would travel in the air as the suits are being taking off, and unless staff was descrubbing individually and then the contaminated scrubs imediately burned, it would make sense these nurses and doctors are getting it or at very high risk!
....would it not be sweet if the lame CDC director Dr. Frieden, came down with a case of ebola? He would be able to get a huge dose of ZMapp in a NY second
< Natural outbreak
< Accidental or intentional release of virus
Natural outbreak, intentional lack of effort or measures to contain it.
I agree. No one would work with this virus for an intentional release unless they had no care if they died in the process. Only the truly insane psychopathic person would do so. What I see of the power hungry is a will to live at all cost. What else is keeping that corpse Soros functioning?
Miffed
"Only the truly insane psychopathic person would do so."
You just described the clowns who are running the planet...
Plum Island, Ft Detrick, et al
I think she meant "Only the truly insane suicidal psycopathic person would do so."
I see it slightly different....TPTB got their test of ZMAPP. It worked in multiple cases. They can now sit back and play dumb and let this baby run its course. If they happen to catch it by odd chance, they have their cure.....tough luck for the rest of the world's population.
...intentional lack of effort or measures to contain it e.g. manufactured crisis. To what end is the big question.
+15
I guess the makers of Fukushima felt it was too slow?
Yessssss, Very Smart... Keep Them West African Planes Coming In To DC...
... Watching Texas...
Blessed Blowjob to Holy Completion?
Looks like those 3000 troops have arrived in West Africa.
http://liberianobserver.com/security/soldiers-break-ground-new-etu-tburg
Perfect timing. That nipped the Catalan independence drive in the bud.
I hear they quarantined the voting booths.
Dear Catalans,
We cancelled the referendum due to voting area staffing and budget problems. We have worked out staffing and cost issues via a temp contract with Liberia. We hope that you turn out to vote.
Sincerely,
Rajoy
LOL all the Chinese need to do in Honk Kong is report one case of Ebola in the street crowds. That will clear those demonstrations up fast.
Aayee - don't give them any ideas.
It's just getting started good in Africa.... the number of cases doubles every 20 days..... A million in January.... two million in Feb.... 4 million in March.
Just wait until it gets to Mexico.... can you imagine what Mexico City would look like? Then, it'll just walk across the border here in numbers we can't cope with....
Let's hope the vaccine comes out sooner rather than later.
It will come out exactly at the time when profits can be maximized.
The authorities have already lost control, and the only choices now involve catastrophic tragedies that could have been avoided with appropriate reactions just a few months ago. Those who are thinking its a conspiracy need to reconsider, because if it is the conspirators will find it like pissing in the wind for life or death stakes.
Even if it is made it may be worthless in 4-5 months. It's an RNA virus which means it's a sloppy replicator. Like the flu, you may have immunity to a particular strain but will loose it when it changes enough tone considered a new strain. That's why they advised nancy writebol not to go back and re-volunteer.
Bingo! This thing replicates everytime it infects someone. Its only purpose is mutation and destruction.
OH! This is Ebola? I have always called it Liberal Progressivism in the USSA...
I think India is at the biggest risk. Something like 2/3 of their 1.25 billion live in or pretty close to poverty. China could have problems too. I suspect most the Asian countries will do ok given they will walk around with masks on to avoid a flu that barely kills anyone.
nc...agree that India is in a wild card position. I have spent much time in India and really, their fine---if diverse---medical system could come up with an ebola solution on the fly. Indians may indeed embrace CHAOS, but they also dearly love Mother India.
I have my bets on India as defeating any ebola inroads. The stakes are too high and the risks too great. Guaranteed that Indian researchers are working 'round the clock to execute a daring plan. Just the way they do things there.
Indian Pharmaceutical Industry is not to be easily discounted!
If it gets to China, can it be transmitted by touching cheaply made toasters?
The silence from the subcontinent of India is a tad scary.
The scary part is it would only take until November 2015 to get to 500 million. And in Jan 2016 we would have 4 Billion sick.......
We'd better find a vaccine soon is all I'm going to say.
From 500 million to 1 billion sick is only 3 weeks or less.... It isn't hitting folks about how rapidly this will begin to get real big real fast at some point.... 5 generations of the virus only infect 32 people.... 10 generations only infect 1024 but, 30 generations affect 1.07 billion..... In Africa we're probably half way there in the number of generations to get to a billion..... it's going to really start taking off over there now.
Think of it this way.... In just three weeks, more people with die of the virus than the total number that had it 3 weeks ago.....
If it takes hold here.... It will be slow at first.... Nobody is really worried about Africa but, it's completely out of control there with no hope to control it..... If there is a vaccine, that's the only hope of containing it.... all 3rd world countries will get it first but, you can't stop everyone from getting in, even if we do decide to watch our borders or stop air traffic from those countries.
Even if the contagion rate is much less here.... if something doesn't change, this is a, "life as we know it could end", potential event.
I have just received official notification from my hospital during an emergency Disaster preparedness meeting. The official statement is we can handle an Ebola patient with confidence because the same procedures are performed with flu and TB cases.
If fucking kid you not. This is the official position they are adapting that has been announced from the CDC.
My exit is near.
Miffed
Great, they can put them all in the same hospital rooms, save some money instead of giving them their own room.
Right behind you. Holding out until it's here. The gloves they supply us with now rip about 60% of the time they are used (too thin, poor quality). There are very few hospitals here that can handle this. We all use the same crappy supplies.
Some mechanics use nitrile gloves to keep grease off of their hands. Find out what brand most mechanics use and purchase your own gloves. If you can turn a wrench with them, they're going to be tough.
Home Depot sells a tough nitrile glove...10 pairs for $2.79
Paint Dept. Pick up some 3M brand N95 masks while you're at it.
You'd be far better off buying them by the box or case, even. My husband uses them in his work. I compare prices at Amazon and Allegro Medical but they're pretty close. Allegro Medical seems to have the best variety on a consistent basis. They also have plenty of 3M N95 masks...
http://www.allegromedical.com/browse/browseProducts.do?searchPhrase=nitr...
Will a P100 suffice?
P100 provides significantly more filtration than N95, superior in almost every way. It's actually the highest rated of all filters.
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/disp_part/
Save your money. N95 masks will not contain the virus
Correct. You need P100 particulate masks. You need a properly fitted respirator if you really want to be safe.
Well thats not really true. Everything is a strategy of mitigation, not 100% protection. N95 are not effective enough for nurses/doctors treating end stage patients, but a N95 mask might reduce your risk at the grocery store or other random necessary public outings etc.
Raven. Downside is they're textured and that messes up your sense of touch a little.
Textured as in Ribbed?
In all seriousness, it's more like the surface of a sand casting, pretty much just on the fingers.
They're 6 mil nitrile and can take quite a bit before they tear.
Make sure and wear a hepa mask, Bro.
No shit. I wouldn't want to deal with that shit unless I had a hermetically sealed suit on that got sprayed down with virex and maybe some bleach right before it was time to take it off. Something has changed with the virus from what it was in the past, and I think it would be wise just to assume the worst if you had to deal with it rather than this happy-go-lucky unicorn skittle-shit that they are preaching.
From what I read, there have only been a couple of studies done on this thing and, I'm sure it's changed as well. There is a study that they basically said they weren't sure how it transmitted when it jumped 10ft to another cage in 2 out of three monkeys 10 ft. away.... another study had monkeys only 1 ft away and it didn't transmit but, that monkey died a lot faster than in the other test.... It can clearly jump, without contact to someone via just breathing.... and, doctors with N95 masks and goggles are getting it. I heard couple days ago that 188 doctors have died of it now.
New 35-bed #Ebola isolation facility just opened at JFK, Liberia.
https://www.facebook.com/42279623238/photos/pb.42279623238.-2207520000.1...
35 beds. I'd be scared if I was ebola /sarc
...we all love you Ms Miffed....please keep us posted as to your bug out status!
And keep your fine insights posted!
Relieved that you're exiting, Miffed.
For those who are wisely buying their gloves now, be sure to get enough so that you can double- or triple-layer to ensure safe removal. One pair is NOT enough!
Great! They'll put them in the senior ward.
I think all them ebola patients should be housed and looked after carefully in the US high security penitentiaries ! You'd solve two problems at the same time!
You ever get the feeling you're being lied to? Feels like now.
Why were they saying they were SURE it wasn't airborne from the earliest reports? How the hell did they know that then? How the hell are they still so sure now?
This whole line of bullshit that is the "official narrative" is coming unravelled like a cheap sweater.
"You ever get the feeling you're being lied to?"
I wonder if it's the same feeling all those girls had in high school when I told them I would not ejaculate in their mouth. I'm guessing it's not.
Just the tip my friend, just the tip;)
You would get more head if you kept your word. Just sayin'.
A man of your age squirting in high school kids, I don't know whether I'm impressed or disgusted.
You misspelled "jealous."
I'm not defending them, but past outbreaks were kept under control. The problem is the virus easily mutates so this virus is almost certainly different than past outbreaks.
It is different but, the biggest reason is that it isn't in some village.... it's in town now.... Hell, we haven't even done much research on this thing since it seemed to be a very remote possibility to be a real threat......
One thing you're not seeing is anyone pointing to the 1995 study done on ebola.... 2 out of 3 monkeys 10ft away from the infected monkey got ebola..... the CDC is lying.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/08/airborne_transmission_of_ebola.ht...
Here's what irks me about this. Anyone can be wrong, and believe me, I am far more understanding of mistakes than most people.
But to face such obvious evidence that the classic assumptions don't apply to this particular mutation of Ebola AND STILL KEEP STICKING TO THE SAME STORY LINE is incredible. Like if we just all keep repeating "it's not airbore", magically it won't be.
This is a POLITICAL response to this outbreak, not a scientific one.
"This is a POLITICAL response to this outbreak, not a scientific one."
Exactly. Just like everything else these days. The problem is that the potential consequences for taking the wrong course of action here mean that whomever is making those political decisions deserves to be garroted.
That story line is unlikely to change any time soon.
Maybe it's not a real outbreak. Maybe this is just a large false flag.
They are using some sort of a chemical agent or deactivated virus that will kill but not spread. Except to those they want to have it.
They are studying our reaction and the degree of panic.
Personally I don't think this is the big one. They haven't finished looting the retirement and pensions yet.
Yikes.
They will continue to lie to us.... forever.
The don't want to talk about the 1995 study where monkeys 10 ft. away from the infected monkey got ebola.... Doctors are getting ebola while wearing N95 masks and goggles. It's a bit easier to spread than we're being told, I'm afraid.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/08/airborne_transmission_of_ebola.ht...
It's as real as the script they read and the number of sheep that believe. Watch the script reading family especially granny.
And who can forget Ebola Lazarus. Risen from the dead right in front of the former head of the CDC. Besser is such a genius he's supposedly standing only a foot or two away from a man that possibly has Ebola? I wonder if he's any relation to Curly Joe Besser of the 3 Stooges because I was laughing my ass off when I saw this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITV7uDp21zc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXftrexNwZk
Here is what I have noticed that alarms me:
The real scientists out there, the guy who discovered it, the virologists, are all acting like judgement day might be upon us.
The .gov chronies are all saying it is under control, keep going to work and paying taxes, nothing to see here.
I tend to believe the scientists but I am biased. I respect scientists greatly and greatly disrespect .gov chronies.
I haven't seen what you're talking about there, but if so, I know several of those types. If they're raising the alarm, it is serious indeed.
'In 1976 I discovered Ebola - now I fear an unimaginable tragedy'
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/04/ebola-zaire-peter-piot-outb...
Edit: They aren't heading for the hills yet (maybe Miffed is), but just about anyone with basic math skills can figure out for themselves that if what has happened for the last 6 months (infection rate) continues unchecked for the next 1.5 years it is TEOTWAWKI.
So, in epidemiology, they 'study' lots of cases to build data on the trasmission of the disease. So, they are assuming this is like the old virus until they can build data that proves it otherwise. (to fit their narrative). Slowly, as more cases come about, especially like the one in Spain, the real truth will come out.
But, first off, does anyone actually believe the .gov? Next, since you don't trust them, why wouldn't you be preparing now? What does it hurt to have a plan in place. What is needed (slightly different now versus a regular bug-out) and where and when to go.
My suggestion, the first true cases that are reported of hospital personnel in Texas being infected, then it is time to pull out of the system for awhile. The Emory case was special I think. The hospital was set up exactly for this incident so it could be contained....and it was (all possible measures were in place). Texas is not the same. This was unexpected and the standard measures were used. If you see infections from here then it is only a matter of time. This is all IMHO. Not a epidemiologist (only a Master's in Micro).
The final clue....watch Miffed. She is on the front lines. Not only her livelihood, but her life is at stake. When she bugs out I would recommend you be ready to start your plan immediately.
Just saying.
I'm sure it'll be fine.... /s
The Hospitals are jelous in the USA...they want more...so they can show their stuff....this is thier 15 minutes of fame..and they want it all
Even in parts of West Africa, ebola is being contained. The rate of transmission, doubling every 20 days, is slightly decreasing. The isolated appearances of ebola in other countries shows no sign of spreading in those countries. My money is on further containement.
stein,....time will tell. The Liberian dude who is now sick in Texas should have nver been granted a USA visa. Travel from these source countries, excluding foreign health care workers should have been stopped months ago. I have no problem with Spanish priest, but this sick nurse demonstrates the risk of this spark igniting somewhere else. Let's say this nurse has infected 5 people.....oooopppps. Let us pray she terminates this infection trail.
US embassies doesn't grant visas overnight... he would have had to apply for the visa before he was infected (unless he had, or bought, friends in high places at the US embassy... which would be a whole different level of fuck up for the Obola administration).
But now that ebola has landed in VWP countries there is no need to wait weeks for consular approval of visas (or worrying about direct flights from West Africa or Ibiza) before importing more ebola cases.
Apparently he has an "American" girlfriend so presumably she's been injected with the virus and will show symptoms in the next two weeks.
Agreed. Wasn't Lagos supposed to be in full chaos with 600,000 cases by now? I am also scared, but if Nigeria could contain it, we can too.
If it had made it to the Lagos slums, most of Africa would get it. They stepped in it and the only folks who got it were not located there.
We lie when things get serious, remember? Have you been to Lagos? Or are you just taking someone's word for it?
How about all my well dressed, proper English speaking white friends who have traveled back from Lagos (and other corners of West Africa) to major cities across Europe and the USA over the last couple months...
If there weren't a tons of westerners demanding to fly TO West Africa now, then flight routes would no longer be economical... and everyone's fantasy solution of an airline quarantine would be imposed by market forces.