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A National Failure To Save & Invest

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Submitted by Adam Taggart via Peak Prosperity,

As we have discussed numerous times in the past, the US' debts and unfunded liabilities far exceed its assets. But making matters worse, the country is suffering from a prolonged failure to save and invest -- both at the personal and national level.

Being over-indebted and under-capitalized is a recipe for hardship as we move into the future, especially if economic growth is going to be harder to come by (which we forecast in the upcoming chapters on net energy). Each year we continue this deficit makes us less able to withstand systemic shocks (a 2008-style financial crisis, an energy shock, the outbreak of war), some number of which lie undoubtedly ahead at some point.

How did we get to this point? Do we really want to pass these problems along to future generations? Questions like these should be front and center in the national debate, but sadly, are not. We need to work to change that -- and in the interim, lead by example at the individual level.

 

 

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Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:38 | 5301018 El Oregonian
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"I'll gladly pay you Tueday for a hamburger today."

Don't be a whip...

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:38 | 5301030 whatsinaname
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It is Tueday today fyi..

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:43 | 5301048 El Oregonian
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Ahh, next Tueday?...

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:54 | 5301086 SHEEPFUKKER
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Tuesdays used to be the day the market went up without fail....not so much anymore. Can I pay you back a different day instead?

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 19:06 | 5301124 zaphod
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Why does a nation need to save & invest when it can print $1T/year and have everyone scream austarity when you simply slow down that rate. 

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 19:18 | 5301147 Cangaroo.TNT
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Some here will tell you that the reason why the economy is not growing faster is because rates are not low enough, or not declining fast enough, or some other nonsense.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 21:34 | 5301499 TruthInSunshine
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Check it out, bitchez:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/student-and-car-debt-exponentia...

If someone would have told me 5 years ago, in the midst of the crisis (that is actually just getting started) that both consumers and corporations (as well as governments) would be MASSIVELY deeper in debt in 2014 than they were pre-crisis (pre-peak debt levels circa-2007), I would have said to put the crack pipe down. Yet here we are, with an even more vulnerable economic structure, that is resting on a rusty chassis, with a shitload more debt piled on top.

Keep borrowing cheap debt to buy all your shares back, too, publicly traded corporations -

Brilliant!

Great job, Central Banks!!

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 21:48 | 5301593 Rememberweimar
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Charge the Federal Reserve printing company a fee for printing our green confetti for us... Say 99%...

Wed, 10/08/2014 - 03:00 | 5302147 StychoKiller
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Didya notice the duct tape on the front tire?

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 19:20 | 5301130 0b1knob
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Savings?  Investment?  What are you going to recommend next, morality and religion?

Don't worry we can tear down the four walls of civilization and the roof will still keep us warm and dry.  It takes a village to do it but YES WE CAN!

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 19:21 | 5301159 Chupacabra-322
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60 Trillion Debt + 100 Trillion Unfunded Liabilities = We're Fucked.

Wed, 10/08/2014 - 01:20 | 5302060 TruthInSunshine
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Kotlikoff says it's 220 trillion and has the numbers & projections to back it up.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:38 | 5301025 XqWretch
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Yawn. No one cares. All of this information has been available for decades and no one did shit about it. Wake me up when it finally crashes.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:38 | 5301026 Seize Mars
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Save? The government takes literally half of everything I make. Then the remainder is subjected to inflation. The longer I hold it, the less buying power it has.

Invest? In what? Assets that are thin veils of promises from entities that have no way to pay me back? Why?

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:42 | 5301049 nmewn
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It works out better for you if you're married to a sitting senator, before you invest with...

"When asked by Politico about the stimulus grant, the Hagan campaign said the senator didn’t help her husband win the federal funding and “disputed any suggestion they have profited off the law.” But Hagan was concerned enough to seek advice on the matter.

“Once she learned of her husband’s dealings, Hagan never involved herself in his efforts to obtain the stimulus grants, her campaign said. She consulted with veteran Democratic attorney Marc Elias over the matter, according to spokeswoman Sadie Weiner,” Politico reported.

“Kay is not involved in her husband’s business and had no part in helping JDC apply for or receive these grants,” Weiner told Politco. “Her only involvement was when she made sure that a respected ethics attorney was consulted to ensure that it was appropriate, and the attorney found that it was.”

CJ contacted Caitlin Legacki, who was listed by Politico as a spokeswoman for JDC, but who also is a principal at Precision Strategies, a PR firm described by The Washington Post as a “crisis-management/branding/organization-building outfit piloted by partner Stephanie Cutter, a former top Obama campaign official and a CNN pundit.”

Legacki also was Kay Hagan’s speechwriter and press secretary from February to October 2009 and a press assistant for the presidential campaign of John Edwards from February 2007 to February 2008.

In an email, CJ asked Legacki when JDC applied for the stimulus grant, if the company applied for any other grants, when the solar company was formed, what solar energy expertise Hagan’s family members have, when Hagan asked for legal/ethical advice on the issue, and why she did not go to the Senate Ethics Committee for advice.

Legacki did not respond to the email."

...OTHER PEOPLES MONEY ;-)

http://www.carolinajournal.com/articles/display_story.html?id=11434#.VDMqpLIjKac.twitter

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 20:02 | 5301266 GooseShtepping Moron
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Could I have a sitting senator's daughter instead?

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:37 | 5301028 J Pancreas
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I'm staying with what works for me: Ty beanie babies, Flair trading cards, bottle caps and GTAT/KING/LNKD.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:39 | 5301032 SheepDog-One
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That's OK, soon under the overall plan of total centrally planned control of the world by a select few (GS) no one will have to worry about production or savings or any of that....accept your work orders and crust of bread with a smile or be made an example out of.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:53 | 5301084 J Pancreas
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So are you recommending I diversify into GS as a hedge to my assortment of trading cards and GTAT?

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:39 | 5301033 i_call_you_my_base
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No one should be surprised. When consumption comprises 70% of the US economy, economists and the government view savings as exrtemely negative. They actively try to get every American to spend every dollar they have. It's one of the great moral bankruptcies of economists and the US government. They encourage people to be in a situation where "retirement" means a cardboard box and dog food.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:46 | 5301064 seek
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Came to post the same message. They discourage savings in every way possible. Meanwhile people who *do* save look like they're poor because they're not maxing their credit out on 500K homes and 60K cars when they're making the median wage. It's insane.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:52 | 5301083 XqWretch
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"Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit... that we dont need"

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:58 | 5301104 DOGGONE
Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:56 | 5301097 Bro of the Sorr...
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the real problem here is our most widely used metric, GDP, is a totally arbitrary way of measuring a country's wealth. if we weren't intensely focused on a bunch of keynesian voodoo and instead looked at things like % of population on government support, or total debt levels, or better yet if the government didnt concern itself with the economy at all, we would be in a much better place.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 19:00 | 5301116 i_call_you_my_base
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Agree, and that's what happens when you manage to a single stupid number. Everything underneath becomes "irrelevant" or just a means to goal-seek that one number.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:49 | 5301062 ebworthen
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As an individual or family it is nearly impossible to save and invest because every fucking thing is so goddamned expensive.

And if you do happen to save and "invest" you get paid nothing for it or have it stolen by Wall Street and Washington.

Every time I hear someone blaming individuals or families for "not saving" I want to punch their teeth in.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 23:06 | 5301835 rbg81
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Yup.  It's expensive, plus you get next to NO interest on your savings.

Let's face it:  this is on purpose.  The Government doesn't want thrift.  It wants good like Consumer-Bots who will spend themselves into oblivious, power the World's economy, make the Banks & CC companies rich, and generate MOAR tax revenue.  

In short, they want rats on a treadmill.

Wed, 10/08/2014 - 00:09 | 5301970 ersatz007
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+1

Exactly WTF are we supposed to invest in? Savings accts earning negative interest once REAL inflation is factored in? The stock market? Or the other Ponzi scheme? Real estate? Everything is so fucking rigged how can the average person reliably save or invest in anything in this bubbleconomy.

I guess I'll just keep investing in spam, bottled water and metals.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:51 | 5301080 monad
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Wages have tanked since Jane Fonda conned women into tax serfdom. Women are profoundly susceptible to TV brainwash. Emo...

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 19:00 | 5301110 Bro of the Sorr...
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quick question. as a virile young man is there any way that i can take this TV brainwashing and get myself laid a bit more often? thanks in advance. (little Bro says thanks too)

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 19:15 | 5301141 monad
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Easy. Just dress like a stooge on tv the girls think is cute and affect the squid's mannerisms. Keep in mind that they are looking for a mule, not a partner. You're just a pair of shoes. Must be stylish. If you have difficulty dumbing down, if people don't understand wtf you're talking about, smoke a lot of weed before you go out in public. This should slow you down enough so that they can keep up. Don't talk too much. Don't hesitate. Don't exploit. Every girl may not have a good father or brothers, but every inmate has a mother and they will make your stay in the dungeon memorable. Since you're likely playing in the shallow end of the gene pool always, always Use Birth Control.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 21:58 | 5301638 Slowdrip
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'Shallow end of the gene pool', that's good....

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:51 | 5301081 NoWayJose
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Japanese saved a lot more - and now their government is 'investing' it for them in some of the riskiest assets in the world - and devaluing their currency.

Wed, 10/08/2014 - 07:29 | 5302346 RaceToTheBottom
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In what system where you are trying to promote saving would you put a low limit on IRAs?

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:56 | 5301098 DOGGONE
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Excellent illustration is second chart here.
http://www.showrealhist.com/RD_RJShomes_PSav.html

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:56 | 5301099 buzzsaw99
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excuse me, but what does this post have to do with ebola?

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 19:02 | 5301118 nmewn
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Exactly.

Moar Ebola Squirrels!!! ;-)

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 22:14 | 5301702 Trucker Glock
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I think the article is implying if you had saved, you too could have a sweet $1,000+ hazmat suit.  Count your pennies!

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 19:04 | 5301121 Cautiously Pess...
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I remember the days, when at the end of the month, I had discretionary Federal Reserve Notes left over and could save, or spend frivolously.  Long ago that was.  Now, my check goes to State and Federal taxes, Social InSecurity, MediScam, and to pay for health insurance for my family.

 

SAVE is just another 4 letter word....

 

(not to mention SAVERS make great BAIL-IN partners for the banks)

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 19:09 | 5301134 strangeglove
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Strap in or strapon Bitchez!

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 19:31 | 5301183 Ginsengbull
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If you have money to invest, go to a flea market and buy up a bunch of old tools.

 

Wrenches, hammers, saws, screwdrivers, pliers, snippers, punches, files, knives...

 

None of them are getting any cheaper, but people are strapped for cash, and willing to let these gems go cheap.

Wed, 10/08/2014 - 09:21 | 5302635 N2OJoe
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And they'll outlast anything you can get in a new shrinkwrap at China Depot.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 19:31 | 5301188 Duc888
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Yea, we should all put our money in the banks to earn 1% interest....and by all means invest in stawks.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 19:45 | 5301222 seek
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Not to nitpick, but 1% interest is literally 20 times the rate of return my bank's money market is providing today: 0.05%. That's how fucked this banking system is.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 20:01 | 5301262 Duc888
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seek: Not to nitpick, but 1% interest is literally 20 times the rate of return my bank's money market is providing today: 0.05%. That's how fucked this banking system is.

 

Wow, not nit picking at all Seek, thanks...I had no idea the interest rate was so bad.....I was just babbling off the cuff....

 

thanks.


Tue, 10/07/2014 - 20:33 | 5301318 homebody
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I bought into the BS of saving early in life, bought with cash, no more mortgage, got my 3 B s, and still they figure out a way to screw me over for the little I have left - taxed to death.  Bring on the collapse.

 

I should have traveled more, bought more toys, spent it all on women, put in the pool, refinanced as many times as possible - and then told the creditors to screw themselves - got a bail out and went on living the high life on assistance.  

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 23:55 | 5301940 83_vf_1100_c
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  No, you did it right. It's moral and it's the system that is screwing you. I learned at the feet of my Dad and what he did doesn't seem to work as well today. House and vehicles are paid off, no CC debt. Money, silver/gold, guns n ammo and etc... in the safe. Maybe some folks here are smarter than me (no doubt) but I do not know how it will play out in the end. I'll keep working at my home business til I can't or they stop me because I just don't have it in me to sit on my ass watching tv. I have too much self respect to live on the dole.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 21:49 | 5301588 John Wilmot
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"How did we get to this point?"

One word: INFLATION.

Increasing the money supply lowers interest rates: which encourages borrowing and discourages saving.

Very simple, unbelievably destructive.

Wed, 10/08/2014 - 00:16 | 5301984 ersatz007
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Duck dinner.

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 22:17 | 5301715 AdvancingTime
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 Balance is important and like so many things in life when it comes to economic policy it is very important to balance the markets reward when it comes to savings and debt. Savings plays an important role in the economy  and has been shortchanged, this will come back to haunt us.

The idea of being frugal and living within our means has not been given due credit, living by increasing debt is far too acceptable. When we find it necessary to discuss savings we are back to basics and it is a sign we have strayed far off course in our economic policy. More on this subject in the article below.

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/09/savings-and-role-it-plays-in-econ...

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 23:59 | 5301951 Falconsixone
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Personals:) Debt hardship junkie needs loving lying lazy banker with mansion and yacht....1800-ALL-4ME2

 

 

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