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Tuesday Humor? Spain's Ebola Containment Protocols
We noted earlier the insider's account of the dismal protocols in place for managing Ebola in Spain's hospitals... but a picture paints a thousand highly contagious words...
This is how a spanish hospital is isolating an ebola-infected nurse
The spanish government has been dismantling public hospitals ever since they won the elections.
"It was reported at the outset that no protocols or realistic training to address this situation because they are procedures for which you must train: you can not teach a person to put on a suit that costs so much to put it in 20 minutes , "
This is the first case of ebola detected in Europe and the spanish government is to blame for it.
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Major earthquake shakes southwest China, damage likely - LA Times
That was a warning for the Chinese to forget about messing with the gold price when they come back off holiday tomorrow.
Well at least its a little assuring the the USSA isn't yet the stupidest county on earth.
I move quietly, mostly unnoticed through the crowd. I watch my victims entertain themselves with war, it amuses me to see them playing with resources, tanks, jets, puppets, gold, pawns, crackers, blood, assets and guns. I am not evil as the concept of sin eludes me and I don't discriminate against any particular individual. I will not judge on race, religion, status, morality, nationality, intellect or age. I am not on a mission and I don't know my purpose, my only instinct is to multiply and I am the same with everybody. I don't know if I was modified, created or manufactured. I do, however, know my name. Some, they call me Ebola, I prefer my title, Destroyer of Worlds.
Time for this pretty good movie (filmed fairly near me - I recognize some of the extras) to make a comeback:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outbreak_(film)
Candy striped tape=Ebola barrier.
#Winning
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2800%2902...
Spain drew a line and ebola crossed it.
Is there Gold behind that blue set of double doors with the Pirate on it?
Bitchez
"Candy striped tape=Ebola barrier."
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131026140553/walkingdead/images/...
"Never Trust. Never Again. We First, Always"
http://www.ibtimes.com/walking-dead-season-4-spoilers-never-again-never-...
Cryptic warnings are something of a running joke on Walking Dead.
Medical martial law about to kick in in Dallas...
http://www.intellihub.com/texas-medical-martial-law-forceful-detention-begin-second-suspected-patient/
well this was inevitable I guess, the situation has been fumbled from the first day..
might want to ...
FEAR is by far the most effective "fire and forget" weapon ...
Incubation is a mind fuck.
Did we ever hear of the priest who died in Spain from Ebola after caring for Ebola victims in August?
Did we ever hear about the 2nd priest who died from Ebola in Spain after caring for Ebola victims in September?
Did the MSM cover either death?
TPTB/MSM are obviously hiding the facts.
Givin Merkin Law Enforcementstm gentle and guiding approach to the average Joe, I can only imagine how swimingly this will turn out.
You need to calm down and learn the CDC FACTS.
OBOLA never (NEVER) would consider crossing the official 'Medical Privacy Curtain' (at least, in Spain, one of the allies of the G.W.O.T.).
Also; 'official' police-like 'Crime-scene-esque' tape shall NEVER be breached. EVER (unless a building is suddenly made to fall in an obvious controlled demolition and destroy the 'crime-scene' tape; in which case all people will be fed the line of '19 Arab Hijackers' by all the NETWORK PROGRAMMIMNG)..
Anyone who does not believe this is a tin-foil-hat-wearing bat-shit-crazy conspiracy theorist, and deserves to be SHUNNED by the rest of the entire WORLD.
I urge all citizens to 'move on' from this moment, and help rebuild the economy by going shopping. I have signed a Bill that authorizes the Banks to borrow from the largesse of the U.S. Treasury in order that urgently needed lending may continue. I won't come in your mouth. In fact, I haven't been able to come at all, ever since the CDC doctors removed my Prostate gland. See! I am telling the truth.
Too bad that you watch and worship the programmed channeling and consider it somehow 'important' to equate with the reality that you and I share. Cryptic STUPIDITY is SO MUCH MORE FUN than some imaginary 'cryptic warning' on a FICTIONAL STORYLINE.
Seriously, Ob1knob BOY, who the fuck really CARES about some 'hopper-stored' crap when a serious remediation of a supposedly SERIOUSLY DEADLY DISEASE is being defended against by the most uneducated, ignorant, and supposedly 'heroic' 'first-line-of-defense' people who think that putting up police tape and hospital privacy curtains could POSSIBLY have any effect?
WTF is 'walking dead'? Is that some fucking Bollywood/Hollywood 'television series' designed to misdirect the masses by the tittilating entertainment value that THEY claim to have sway over 'public opinion' while their rights and lives are being ripped away from them like linen sheets in a hurricane?
We FIRST, YOUR ASS!
GOD DAMN IT. I get SO FUCKING EXASERBATED by benign misdirectional STUPIDITY!
The Torre Windsor fire in Madrid is living PROOF that the 9/11 takedown 'official story' of the collapse of the WTC buildings One and Two (AND SEVEN) is complete BULLSHIT. For this, Spain is getting fucking HAMMERED. THERE WAS SPECULATION at the time that 'activists' wished to try to prove or disprove the 'official 9/11 story' by RE-CREATING IT with ACCELERANTS. They have gotten the Madrid Subway Bombings, and NOW the EBOLA INCOMPETENCE (as well as financial Armageddon) for their efforts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz-WVJ0zeXE&feature=player_embedded
AND, THE BUILDING DIDN'T COME DOWN.
CRYPT: Entoumbment place of a dead person who was supposedly in a higher 'social strata' than others of his contemporary existence.
'CRYPTIC WARNING': A supposed 'message' from those who have 'passed on' supposedly 'channeled' by people known as 'seers'; who claim to have the ability to COMMUNICATE FROM THE DEAD.
'OUIJA', much; or are you still 'channel-surfing'?
Socialized medicine. Michael Moore to the rescue.
Cadillac Communista
Saaay, isn't Spain a member of the EU where everything is better?
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Someone says no.
No to being an EU member or no to everything being better there? ;-)
Well, they can certainly brag they don't waste money on frivolous things for containing a biohazard level 4 agent. The sheets on my bed look more expensive. I'm sure with the money they saved some grandma may get a 2% subsidy on oranges.
Miffed
What - no Spiderman towels?
Talk about a poor ROI.
A 'Micheal Moore Moment'...
QUICK! Somebody get me a BIG MAC!
OH.
Well, what about a CHEESBURGER?
'SPIDERMAN' is considered by ALL edumacated superiors as not only RAYCISS (a WHITE dude, for gosh sakes), but also 'anti-female' (a DUDE, for gosh sakes). Did I mention the 'WHITE' part? What part of 'SPAIN'S... PROTOCOLS' did you NOT understand? They are a PROUD race of pastuerized and homoginized she-male-he-female-things, for gosh sakes! They even had a NAVY, once, a long time ago... AND, they are CATHOLICS... (or, Moors, or Muslims, depending on the decade in question). The ITRALIAN POPO-EDUCATED Amerigo Vespucci mapped the 'historic voyages' of one 'Christopher Columbo' with his three little ships, and you don't pay homage to the ITRALIANS?
HEY! I gotta you 'SPIDER-MAN towel' right HERE...
(obligatory 'sarc' tag added)
RETURN ON INVESTMENT? Are you SERIOUS? The damned DUTCH bought MANHATTAN ISLAND for about $27 from the Algonquits. Fucking GOTHAM CITY! BATMAN is getting pissed off having to SHARE with SPIDERMAN. All HE has is a stupid black CAPE, but SPIDERMAN... SPIDERMAN gets a whole TOWEL to cover his assets!
The REDSHIELDS are getting all worked up at your comment. Best watch your back. They are ready to call out the Conquistadores! SMART bunch, they are...
Thanks, not being a medical professional I had to look up "biohazard level 4 agent". Interesting.
Well, I guess the picture makes sense. Every place Spain ever conquered is (still) a steaming, second-rate shit hole. They had the best example to follow.Plus they *still* have that faggy lisp thing going on since King Philip back in the 1500's. Seriously?
(To be fair, I'll point out that fat, drunk and loud Americans completely get their inspiration from the insufferable Brits. Seriously, for those of you on holiday in Europe, you can play "Spot the Brit" so easily).
What does CANDY EBOLA taste like???
How did any cases appear in Europe in the first place ? Travel. Quarantine works. you just don't allow travel to and from any area with an un-treatable disease. You just don't do that. But everybody and their brother wants to play do-gooder. It's compltely obvious that all travel must be banned from this area.
@ SPUD '800':
As the aircraft travel over your assigned world region and the strange clouds appear that obscure the view of Sol (the Sun) and you look at your I-pad and talk on your FaceBook, and you remark on the way that 'biohazard' issues seem to be spreading throughout the world, you (no doubt) will call anything BUT the 'need to quarantine' travel by humanity as a whole as a 'wild conspiracy theory'. You whine and complain and will PULE when you are required to take your shoes off and DFW or JFK or Heathrow, because of the B.S. 'war with terror'; but in the same breath CALL UPON the GLOBAL STASI to KETTLE anyone from ANY OTHER COUNTRY (than your own, pristine, innocent one). ALL, in the name of 'STOPPING' a 'BIOHAZARD' that was contrived, created, and is actively being PROMOTED by the SAME people that told you that ASBESTOS INSULATION and G.M.O. FOOD and FLOURIDE are 'SAFE'.
YOU are a FART SMUCKER, though (I can tell by your AVATAR NAME as well as the 'BAG-BOY' picture). WHICH area is TRAVEL to be COMPLETELY BANNED FROM? EUROPE?
QUOTE: "It's compltely obvious that all travel must be banned from this area."
FUCK. For someone who claims to be an 'SAT (dash) 800', you seem to have lost the ability to SPELL in ENGLISH. "compltely"...
(Dial up a ChoomBoi 'golf-clap', for The City's newest encarnation of the olde 'Dr. Who Versus The Dalecks' remake! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! QUARANTINE, AND EXTERMINATE! 'Sorry lassie. There was no other way. We had to eradicate the entire population. You'll understand one day when our sonnie Reginald grows up to be a man, if he doesn't get Scurvy. GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!')
Obola PROMISED 'transparency'. I didn't need HIM/HER to gain this ability, though.
Better that a few million people die by force of military quarantine, than they be given the chance to escape death; and that YOU NOT be given the POSSIBILITY of 'exposure' in your 'first-world nation status'. After all, YOU are MORE IMPORTANT than any of 'them', in God's eyes. Aren't you? YOU passed the Stanford-Binet 'SCHOLACTIC APTITUDES TESTING' protocol with a PERFECT score of '800', after all. I, on the other hand, only achieved 762 (at the age of 13; after which I dropped out, quit; stopped caring; because the people testing me were sheer IDIOT MACHINE-HUMANS in this world of fools in the sight of God).
The life of a Liberian infant or a Cossack or a Chinese National or anyone from any strata of human existence is less important than your own, I suppose; because you are whatever you are or concieve yourself to be in the eyes of yourself. I TRULY feel sorrow for your lack of empathy.
"How did any cases appear in Europe in the first place ? Travel. Quarantine works. you just don't allow travel to and from any area with an un-treatable disease. You just don't do that. But everybody and their brother wants to play do-gooder. It's compltely obvious that all travel must be banned from this area."
A fucking 800 score on the SAT, and this ass can't even punctuate OR spell.
Keep gloating and spewing garbage. You are way too busy impressing yourself with having this "figured out" to realize the real danger.
I agree with the OP that travel needs to be banned from ebola countries. That is common sense. This is not a human rights issue.
Ebola is the Statists' way of controlling riots when the next tsunami of state-sponsored robbery starts coming down. Just shows how out of touch the 1% crowd really is. Oh well. Gaia is likely better off without us at this point anyway. I haven't noticed that humans have ever contibuted much to any but ourselves. Shame, really. Vinyl LP's were just coming back...
My local Chinese restaurant feeds lots of cockroaches.
Fuck Gaia, she's gonna have to slug it out like everyone else.
Gaia is fighting back with Ebola.
Cockroaches could spread Ebola. (How'd you like to live in that Dallas apartment complex ?) We are so screwed.
Who PDF--Scroll down to diseases secction.
They are
proven or suspected carriers of the organisms causing:
— diarrhoea
— dysentery
— cholera
— leprosy
— plague
— typhoid fever
— viral diseases such as poliomyelitis.
http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/resources/vector288to301.pdf
Now, from Radio station K.L.O.N.; More of the hits that everyone plays!
HERE is the hit song 'Dirty Water'; #11 on the charts in 1966:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JLNnXgQeqU
The City Of London NEVER had dirty water from the Thames River, though, I suppose. Bubonic Plaugue DID, NOT, EX-IST.
We all hope to be Zimbabweans.
Inside Every Infected West African is a Progressive Trying to Get Out.
Ich bin ein Liberian.
So the fucking doesn't end until tomorrow? My butt hole is so sore - I think I need some collodial silver lube.
May your bung be flexible, like the bamboo; and a warrior, like the skunk.
that was magnificent..
May you one day find a woman who gives you the pleasure of your unrequieted fantasy. Pray that she be neither fat nor ugly (or FUGLY). Pray ALSO that she be healthy and eat a high-roughage diet; and be virgin in this netherworld of your desire of the small ones. NAY, VERILY, it was only by the wiles of drink that I tried this with several lasses, and they could take less than half before crying out, 'STOP'!
YOU might have better luck, though, as you are most likely less-endowed.
If the population decreases will POG go up or down. Not clear. Same for Silver...less manufacturing demand, more bling demand.
Its PRECIOUS !
HAARP FO SHO
Hey, I never even though of that, Rastadamus.
Why don't they just HAARP and chemtrail the bejesus out of West Africa?
That won't work in the U.S. (already done). If they want to eradicate ebola in the U.S., then TAX it.
On September 10, 2001, Secratary of State Donald Rumsfeld announced the 2.3 TRILLION dollars that had gone 'missing' from the Pentagon's Coffers.
http://www.defense.gov/speeches/speech.aspx?speechid=430
On September 11, 2001, the 'Budget Analyst's Offices' in the Pentagon was somehow picked to be the 'ground zero' target of that famous '270-degree corkscrew turn'. I can't imagine WHY, though. They could have straight-in nosedived and taken out the OTHER SIDE, where the MIC PLANNING took place (and saved some time as well).
WAIT!
In 2009, Obola took the reins, and after the continuation of Bush the Younger's bailouts via H.R. 1 of 2009, got 'OBOLACARE' passed! It's NOT a TAX, though. Cannigula One made SURE of this.
FORGET the TWO POINT THREE TRILLION DOLLAR BUDGET BLACK HOLE. H.A.A.R.P. and 'stratospheric geoengineering projects' DO, NOT, EXIST. AFRICOM is just a MIRAGE. EUROCOM is a conspiracy theory.
NYC Mayor Bloomberg has increased the Coca-Cola allowance to 24 'olde' imperial ounces per day. You have missed two of your three compliant attendences of the Two Minutes Of Hate meetings. On failure of your third attendance, the State has decreed that harsher measures may be enacted (such as reduction of your Coca-Cola allowance). Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia. STRIKE. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
Successful unmanned aerial strikes have managed to eradicate whole swathes of rebel breeding grounds in areas that Oceania has declared to be 'officially hostile'. Oceanea has once again managed to kill the enemy before they could propogate; while at the same time preserve the lives of those that you hold most dear. Eastasia and Eurasia representatives have expressed their profound recognition of our Oceanea's continued dominance in the areas of safety and security, but still threaten us with their war abilities. BLAH BLAH BLAH...
I can tell you're repressing a lot of anger; just let it out already!
"That is a waste of tape!"
Christine Lagarde, IMF
Unless that's duck [sic] tape, it's totally useless against ebola.
"Others [terrorists] are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves… So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations…It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts." *
Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Senator Sam Nunn. Quoted from DoD News Briefing, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Q&A at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy, University of Georgia, Athens, Apr. 28, 1997.
Add to this "electromagnetic disease induction".
China is about to raise their asking price at SGE to around $2500. They have alot more earthquakes, etc, headed their way.
Death by Super Volcano, pyroplastic flow, or even freezing to death due to Artic Earth Syndrome™(think Jack just chillin' there at the end of the Shinning) caused by massive amounts of ash blocking out the Sun for a prolonged period is preferable to Ebola IMO.
Who's to say we can't have all three?
Isn't that Biblical?
Dont forget the lahar. Nothing like boiling hot mud and boulders entombing your town 50 feet deep.
Most volcanos are shrouded in snow near the cone and when it goes boom, an awful lot of snow turns to water rushing down the valleys.
Still beats bleeding out your asshole.
"Spain is not Uganda."
But it might be the next Liberia...
Especially if they have hazmat suits with sleeves rolled up for comfort.
It's almost as if the "authorities" we're supposed to place all our trust in are complete fucking retards.
You lost me at "almost"...
"Spain is not Dallas."
Would the term 'fuckwit' be more appropriate for all the 'public health officials' who have contributed to the spread of Ebola?
"It's almost as if the "authorities" we're supposed to place all our trust in are complete fucking retards."
This is the downside of a country that is "of the people" and "by the people." When a majority are f-tards that can't take care of themselves, how is a government made up of those same people, going take care of the people???
Opening five min. of the movie Idiocracy explains the process.
Definitely. Thinking hasn't been on the agenda for decades. It pays to be a normal dummy; and almost all .gov employees are.
Besides, then you don't have to put up with all that eyerolling shit.
Obviously. Why do you think they are the authorities?
Y'know if people start dying from this, really to prevent it happening again in the future the people in charge need to be strung up from a lamp posts.
"if the american people knew what we had done they would string us all up from lamp-posts"
-George Bush Sr., shortly after 9/11
Wouldn't that make Spain Dallas?
But those suits are just so damn hot! Besides whenever I get into one I just have to scratch my nose. I drop the top and do it quickly. Kinda like the five second rule when something hits the floor.
Miffed
Tape a nose scratcher to the inside.
HTH.
Exceptionalism isn't just an American... uh, attribute.
I taped a butt scratcher in mine. Damn convenient I tell ya.
The Drager suits we used to use had full environmental control - via a feed and return umbilical. So, "shirtsleeve" environment all the year round, with individual flow temp / direction preferences set via a fully sealed sleeve-mounted membrane keypad. "StarTrek" technology, in the early 1980's.
No idea how much the MoD paid for these, but seeing as I'm still here after many exposures to Cat organisms (principally Marburg but also modified SV40), they obviously worked, and were more than comfortable anough to permit 4 hour or more shifts in the "Clean Rooms".
Parrotile, has there ever been an incident to your knowledge of a bio 4 agent infecting personnel using proper PPE in a properly outfitted lab? Our clinical labs do not have the capability to remotely handle this. Several coworkers have contracted Brucella using proper procedures. One colleague of mine died of meningococcemia and I handled the same isolate. Another top notch colleague in San Fran got Francisella tularensis and was very ill.
I cannot believe we are being so cavalier about this virus especially with no studies that definitively elucidate infectivity. I can look up the LD50 of many bacteria but who has done this type of research with Ebola?
I am finding it hard to find hard facts.The mechanisms of attachment and entry of the virus are not clear, but are assumed to be similar to those of other (-) strand RNA viruses, such as influenza virus. The replicative cycle of the virus is unknown, but likely involves a mechanism where the membrane proteins are produced at the ER, processed through typical cellular pathways, and sent to the membrane. The viral polymerase makes further mRNA transcripts and eventually begins replication of the virus, first making (+) RNA strands and then (-) RNA. Eventually, enough viral proteins and (-) RNA accumulate to allow viral assembly and then budding of the virus through the membrane. The mechanism of viral assembly and budding is yet to be elucidated. Every thing just seems so nebulous to me! And I'm supposed to handle this under a decertified laminar flow hood with a N95 mask?? REALLY. Am I nuts to be freaked out or has ZH turned me into a paranoidal conspiracy tin foil hat wearer? Help!
Miffed
Anything to help.
Forgive me?
Oh that's just great! Now I've got to have a beer after my yoga class to add to the relaxation. ;-)
Miffed
M'am - when working for the MOD we had a zero (0) lab. acquired infection rate. Say what you will about "Government" inflexible attitudes - their inflexibility where infection management was concerned, was a very significant safety factor.
The filoviruses are interesting. VERY ancient too (evidence of "paleo" filovirus sequences in many mammals - but may have evolved from some other common source). Seems they are particularly effective at hijacking cellular machinery, and we've no real idea as to the inoculum potential - quoting TCID50 lab values isn't much use in the field (though CIDRAP did excerpt a good article showing reliable (as in all-cases infection) of pigs using the Ebola Zaire variant, at 150 TCID50 which isn't that many virions), seeing as at least one mouse model suggests bloodstream circulating copies in the order of 100 billion per mL . . . http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2657000/ Add in the ability of Ebola to block humoral signalling pathways and we would have a problem if this becomes more widespread - http://jvi.asm.org/content/73/4/3491.short
As mentioned before, here we handle "anything unusual" in isolators. Not glamorous ones, just ones that work, and so far we've not had any Clinicians or Pathologists contracting anything (even Noro - which spreads like wildfire at a Ward level - so much for effective use of PPE!). If you're wondering whether you can "afford" to treat Ebola patients - seems $1k per hour is the going rate - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-07/bill-for-ebola-adds-up-as-care-costs-1-000-an-hour.html, and the cost of the "vaccine" is more like $100K per patient. Maybe you could use these figures to persuade your bean-counters to protect YOUR health, since the costs of "fixing it" outweigh even the most glamorous safety cabinets on the Market today! Hopefully you wear a FULL face shield along with the mask (aerosol splatter), and you work right at the very back of the cabinet!
Since management is going to be expensive. With the case count possibly (probably!) going to mount, it'll be interesting to see how the West copes once the "dedicated" facilities are occupied to our "usual" ED everyday levels of 105% occupancy rates. Tent hospitals the next step??
I'm stocking up on Vacuum cleaner HEPA elements. Probably not ideal, but "any protection might be better than no protection!" Grab yourself some lamivudine whilst you're at it too - "might" provide "some" protection?? http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/27/health/ebola-hiv-drug/
Thank you so much for this. The TCID50 is insanely low and 100 billion copies/ml? Dear God. I was trying to challenge our upper limit analytical range when we were doing manual HCV PCR and played with dilutions of a 100 million HCV standard. Yup, contaminated the lab with that little stunt ( all the days before UNG!) I'm sure there are still amplicons in the walls if I scraped them. Damn near died of bleach fumes for days. My record was an immunosuppressed patient with a viral load of 210 million copies/ ml HCV. HIV counts never are this high. Even if someone recovers, the organ damage must be extensive and permanent.
Thank you so so much for these informative articles and your perspective. I will add them to my collection. The mouse study was impressive but to make the assumption this would have a similar effect in humans? A bit of a stretch especially with such a small sample size. I can't see too many volunteers for such a study. This would have to take place as an experimental therapy at last resort. We shall all be guinea pigs.
The more I learn the more I fear this virus, if given the opportunity, will burn through us before an effective response can be made. I stand by my original assessment. Run.
Miffed
Miffed
even many of the smart folks here (non medical) won't understand you. I did not appreciate just how little about science people know. I have realized that most of the country believes consesus is the same as science. The idea of years of hard work just to get a little useful data or applying the scientific method to expand knowledge simply isn't widely understood. Most people will listen to you but deep down they are saying 'just tell me what to believe'.
I can relate. I struggled here for years to grasp the financial information being presented. Spent hours learning just basic concepts of economics. At some point I felt like flinging up my hands and begging someone to " tell me what to believe". It is just so complicated regular people just give up and hope someone can distill it down, simplify and summarize. It just isn't that simple unfortunately, too many variables are present and not enough data to make useful conclusions rather than vague conjectures.
Most here are wise enough not to believe the standard party line but the frightening part is no one really knows what this virus will do given the opportunity.
Miffed
That is why a bit of humility can go a very long way. Lock it down in Africa now before it spreads even more. Quick, accurate testing must be developed and used on everyone prior to departure. Nobody that is sick leaves. Treat them there.
Hard as it may be to construct the "big picture" financially, at least here on zh we get truthful info from which to piece things together.
Lying TV doctors and cdc people make it impossible to know what this virus can do and seem intent on opening Pandora's box.
.."Kinda like the five second rule when something hits the floor".
Cookies have natural antibodies anyway- it's true.
Reminds me of Paula Poundstone talking about snack cakes. She loves 'em, but never Twinkies. Why? Because there are pores in the cake and germs can get in there. Ding Dongs have a protective chocolate coating that thwarts all germs! Mmm, Ding Dongs...damn, now I've gotta go to the store.
I have said since half of forever that the next crash will be caused by something almost nobody sees coming. Something not on the radar, not visible in the worlds of finance.
More and more I believe that "something" is likely the shocking realization that much of the "hollowing out" of the west has already happened. There really isn't as much resource in those long-trusted institutions as everyone thinks. Our military, education system, medical system, etc. ALL OF THEM ARE FAR MORE FRAGILE AND LESS FUNCTIONAL THAN THEY APPEAR. All of them have become more or less government works programs and stocked with political cronies, ruining any effective value no matter how much money you throw at them.
Put these things under any unusual strain, coming from a non-traditional angle and they snap like a rotten stick. Little strength, no flexibility.
Maybe Ebola is what snaps that stick. Maybe not. But the risk comes from believing your house is free of termites, when, in fact, it's infested with them.
....or we just chug along for another 10 years, with imminent doom around the corner all the while. You know, like normal.
Jim Rickards has been saying the exact same thing for 2 years now.
Dat you Jim?
Just make sure the nurse has enough Spiderman towels.
Nice throwback.
"If you like your red and white barrier tape, you can keep your red and white barrier tape."
That tape should be in the blue and gold colors of the EU flag.
And that biohazard sign is totally depressing, Brussels must order Spain to immediately replace it with a big yellow singing five-pointed star.
Then everyone will want get in to get a Carl's Jr. burger.
We're fucked....
Yep.
"Can't close down the airports cuz that's who paid for my election!"
Not enough tape?
You know its bad when the start using Dollar Tree masking tape (close-by the hospitals on the way to work).
If the glue dries out after 5 years, just lick it good.
If tape is good enough for the CDC in a BSL4 lab - it's good enough for the Spaniards.
http://butnerblogspot.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/cdc-uses-duct-tape-after-...
(at least the CDC used duct tape, the fruity colors of the non-adhesive barrier tape (aka ribbon or streamers) might attract attention, but it's probably rather impotent at containing a virus)
Its better to use a low-tack tape (for sealing sleeve - glove junctions, etc) otherwise degloving / degowning becomes troublesome, e.g. - http://www.ukindustrialtapes.co.uk/low-tack-polythene-protection-tape#category_anchor
For temporary suit repair (tears / cuts) Gaffer tape works fine, but the damaged suit must be removed from service after session completion and room decontamination, for permanent repair (permanent PVC patching).
Interesting little article on the various layers of PPE (and their disadvantages to the wearer!) - http://www.sccfd.org/clothing_hazmat.html
The. Pain. In. Spain. Stays mostly in the Strain.
I think she's got it!
Dr. Doolittle, by Jove, I think she's got it!
The Strain in Spain
with tape we shall contain?
In vain! In vain!
Deplane from Spain
till strain is on the wane!
That level of containment may be enough. At least as long as those entering her room have a proper ventilator mask.
they better have hepa air intake filters that would stop it from spreading that way,.
good job, take five, smoke 'em if you got 'em
...and if you don't smoke, it might be time to start.
let's hope that's high quality sticky tape, or we're all dead
It are magic shoots and plastic tapes.
Even Harry Potter can't break those seals!!!!
Is this where I pick-up my free toaster?
No, but you can get a spiderman towel
Shame about the A/C though.
You know, that system where things like Legionaires bacillus live.
You may want to rethink your preps.
If this is a "purpose built" containment / management area, both supply and return air terminals should be fitted with tandem HEPA (or preferably ULPA) filtration, with the means to isolate (and decontaminate in-situ) used filters.
Looking at the door design / absence of locking system / access control system, and absence of effective door seals, I rather suspect this is not what we're being told.
I am CERTAIN the containment areas within a "purpose-built" facility promoted by the National / Supranational disease management organisations would, and should, look a lot different, e.g. - http://www.terrauniversal.com/gallery/oversized-images/Images/cleanroom-biosafe-frp-models-140418-IMG_8446-700.jpg
SOP was always pressure differential to avoid NBC contamination.
Only seemed to be 100% on pig boats from my memory. peeps were always leaving
valves open on everything else.SNAFU or FUBAR kills.
A red line even Obama could be proud of!
*singing*
One toe over the red line, sweet Jesus
One toe over the red line
Sitting in the hall with my eyeballs bleeding
One toe over the red line
Waiting for the nurse to come and push my gurney
Hoping that she gets here in time
Sitting in the hall with my eyeballs bleeding
One toe over the red line
i don't care who you are, that shit was funny.
Looks like a no-brainer to me - literally. Those in charge have no brains. Though they still have the reptilian portion of the brain intact.
If all you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail.
I heard this bitch was sick with fever for a week before she went in for treatment. She is a nurse who had treated Ebola. Yet she waited a week? They say she had direct contact with 50+ people in that week, who are now being sought. Three are already being isolated.
How does a nurse who treats ebola not seek medical care when she develops fever, the first sign of ebola.
Public hospitals are being deconstructed as part of EU demands that banks be made whole. People's taxes taken to fund their health care is now going to bankers under the EU Neoliberal ecnomic policies. And fucking Ukraine is fighting an all out war to join this bunch of dick heads! All the while the people of Crimea have been reporting in record numbers to enroll in Russian Federation National Health Insurance.
Maybe she was at home trying to cure her fever with moar cowbell.
What was the date the priest died? Date of when she went to the hospital?
She used Gramma's "tried and true" cure of slapping a raw egg mixed with vinegar in a hanky on her forehead. Passed down from generation to generation in the plains of Spain.
"Works every time says," Gramma.
She had the illness for a week without any symptom, and when she started having fever she went inmediatly to the hospital.
Anyway, as long as ebola's transmision way is not the air, that tape should be enough... I don't think anyone that wanna keep healthy will cross it just for breaking some rules or whatever.
Not so CONTAINED. Gonna get a good geometric infection curve out of this one. On the positive side, looks like Spain's unemployment %ages are gonna drop, just like the bodies.
I hear that the Ukrainians have a serious plan to combat ebola.
They are ordering the citizens not to heat their homes this winter since freezing temperatures will kill the ebola virus...
No...I heard the plan was to destruct and eat their homes.
No no no... It's to eat their iPads, silly.
It won't, freezing temperature preserves the virus.
Below 4C and it destructs (so I hear)...but maybe it feezes it till warm weather....hmm. Bust.
You might want to rethink that idea - we routinely store our virus stocks at -70C, and the more fragile ones at - 196C (vapour-phase liquid nitrogen).
Well, it is an RNA virus. I thawed out a few last years HCV samples from our -80 and lost about 30% viability. So that's encouraging huh?
Miffed
It's my understanding E64d protease inhibitor has been shown to work by blocking
cathepsins L and B this info along with all their lab results are now open to the public
at jvi.asm.org what do you think?
I'm hoping that's a TCID50 value, not a Human ID50 value!!
HCV - another costly, and long-term disease that we've consistently mismanaged. Pegatron, Bocepevir, and all the rest - all thousands of $$$s per Patient, per month.
She had a more pressing night job, and was very popular ?
Nurse ASS-is-taint.
She worked for a male nurse who she found was married.
probably because she had used all precautions they told her to and thought it was impossible for her to get with her n95 mask, goggles, gloves and gown.
But, she did get it, didn't she?
Had to take my wife to the hospital this morning for outpatient surgery. Everything went well. Alabama hospital folks were nice, polite and helpful - even at O dark 30.
Sat in the waiting room and watched dozens of lard assed, morbidly obese, lumbering behemoths waller in and plop down for their "healthcare".
The black female across from me was so fat that she couldn't tie her shoes. They had velcro straps. Sad thing is, she was so incredibly fat she couldn't even close the velcro straps - her velcro strap shoes were unstrapped.
And she wasn't the patient. She was driving the patient.
Plenty of half crippled, 300 plus pound white trash as well. Had one fella straight out of deliverance try to talk to me. I grew up in Alabama and I couldn't figure out what the dumb shit was trying to say to me.
We were fucked long before Ebola ever showed up.
We've got millions of people in this country who too fat to wipe their own ass, much less grow their own food or trap their own protein.
It was disgusting and pitiful at the same time.
Next year's blockbuster coming to a town near you: World War E!
We are so fucked it is not even funny. I'm going for more masks and starting to bottle emergency water for bathing via old Milk jugs.
Don't use milk jugs, they harbor bacteria and leak like a bitch. Get you some two liter soda bottles.
Done. I've got both. I wondered about that.
ZH: Helping the awake stay alive.
If you go that way...Costco has box of non-latex medium (or small or large) for around $22 box of 400 at the stores (Kirkland). Best price out there.
Get face masks...might get trendy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plague_doctor
4 blue 55 gal. drums here, bath party at rubbish house girls, get the stink off.
That is how I decorate for Christmas....I hope it doesnt confuse the kiddies in thinking Santa is inside there
You decorate with biohazard signs? What do you hang on your tree, then, skulls and syringes?
How long until hospital staff (in Spain and Dallas) stop showing up for work?
http://washingtonexaminer.com/cdc-doctors-nurses-fleeing-ebola-hospitals-virus-not-contained/article/2554486
CDC: Doctors, nurses fleeing Ebola hospitals, virus not containedyup.
And more than a few of them will be carrying Ebola and Visas.