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"We Can't Exclude The Possibility That Ebola Can Spread Through The Air," Expert Warns
"At this point there is zero risk of transmission on flights," said CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden, supporting other public health officials who have voiced similar assurances, saying Ebola is spread only through physical contact with a symptomatic individual or their bodily fluids. However, as The LA Times reports, some scientists who have long studied Ebola say such assurances are premature - and they are concerned about what is not known about the strain now on the loose. Dr. C.J. Peters, who battled a 1989 outbreak of the virus, and who later led the CDC's most far-reaching study of Ebola's transmissibility in humans, said he would not rule out the possibility that it spreads through the air in tight quarters..."We just don't have the data to exclude it."
As The LA Times reports, officials continue to stress how hard it is to get infected by Ebola...
"Ebola is not transmitted by the air. It is not an airborne infection," said Dr. Edward Goodman of Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas, where the Liberian patient remains in critical condition.
...Public health officials have voiced similar assurances, saying Ebola is spread only through physical contact with a symptomatic individual or their bodily fluids.
Yet some scientists who have long studied Ebola say such assurances are premature - and they are concerned about what is not known about the strain now on the loose. It is an Ebola outbreak like none seen before, jumping from the bush to urban areas, giving the virus more opportunities to evolve as it passes through multiple human hosts.
Dr. C.J. Peters, who battled a 1989 outbreak of the virus among research monkeys housed in Virginia and who later led the CDC's most far-reaching study of Ebola's transmissibility in humans, said he would not rule out the possibility that it spreads through the air in tight quarters.
"We just don't have the data to exclude it," said Peters, who continues to research viral diseases at the University of Texas in Galveston.
Dr. Philip K. Russell, a virologist who oversaw Ebola research while heading the U.S. Army's Medical Research and Development Command, and who later led the government's massive stockpiling of smallpox vaccine after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, also said much was still to be learned. "Being dogmatic is, I think, ill-advised, because there are too many unknowns here."
If Ebola were to mutate on its path from human to human, said Russell and other scientists, its virulence might wane — or it might spread in ways not observed during past outbreaks, which were stopped after transmission among just two to three people, before the virus had a greater chance to evolve. The present outbreak in West Africa has killed approximately 3,400 people, and there is no medical cure for Ebola.
"I see the reasons to dampen down public fears," Russell said. "But scientifically, we're in the middle of the first experiment of multiple, serial passages of Ebola virus in man.... God knows what this virus is going to look like. I don't."
Additionally, Charles L. Bailey supervised the government's response to an outbreak of Ebola among several dozen rhesus monkeys housed for research in Reston, Va., a suburb of Washington.
What Bailey learned from the episode informs his suspicion that the current strain of Ebola afflicting humans might be spread through tiny liquid droplets propelled into the air by coughing or sneezing.
"We know for a fact that the virus occurs in sputum and no one has ever done a study [disproving that] coughing or sneezing is a viable means of transmitting," he said. Unqualified assurances that Ebola is not spread through the air, Bailey said, are "misleading."
Peters, whose CDC team studied cases from 27 households that emerged during a 1995 Ebola outbreak in Democratic Republic of Congo, said that while most could be attributed to contact with infected late-stage patients or their bodily fluids, "some" infections may have occurred via "aerosol transmission."
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Though he acknowledged that the means of disease transmission among the animals would not guarantee the same result among humans, Bailey said the outcome may hold lessons for the present Ebola epidemic.
"Those monkeys were dying in a pattern that was certainly suggestive of coughing and sneezing — some sort of aerosol movement," Bailey said. "They were dying and spreading it so quickly from cage to cage. We finally came to the conclusion that the best action was to euthanize them all."
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Maybe that explains the 160,000 HazMat suits the US government just ordered...
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CDC Leadership, Full retard.
Today it starts getting real in Dallas bitchez! Hundreds if not really thousands of call offs....8 days in since presby sent home the dude with some antibiotics. Mongo is very rarely optimistic and he sees no reason for that to change anytime soon(:-(
Gezhundeit, bitchez!
What...?
But you said...
Now Boarding.. Air Ebama FL666 ...
Turn your head and cough
Now the CDC says the dead should be buried in hermeticly sealed coffins. Gee, you mean the ones that hold four corpses you have stockpiled for six years near Atlanta, your home? This has been planned FOR YEARS!!!
So where is my royalty check, L A Times. I just did this a couple of days ago.
(and so did a few others;)
" ...A Rockefeller Foundation white paper published in May of 2010 titled Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development takes a look at hypothetical future scenarios which may be used to benefit privy globalist corporations, businessmen and organizations at a later time. ...
... Basically the publication is insinuating that a new world will be formed after a pandemic strikes, allowing “top-down government control” and “more authoritarian leadership”. ..."
http://www.intellihub.com/rockefeller-foundation-fictional-scenario-depicts-pandemic-used-top-government-control/
Weaponized...
Here is the direct Youtube link as the Intellihub article has an irritating pop-up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEvYdNP2unk&list=UU3xHAfZZqbMMWjc1ed1ajow
anyone anticipate another post-SandyHook-ish ammo run but this time on N95 surgical masks ? Nah, me neither .... ;>)
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Might be airborn..... No shit? /sarc
The Army's 1995 study said that...... The spanish case at least will bring out that lie sooner rather than later.
Nah. That's Spain. Us, we're exceptional.
Isolate them, let Nature take its course. Then burn the bodies and use fire to clean the room.
But cremation seems to be an aversion by guys like Frieden and his ilk.
You know what would come in really handy in this situation Kirk? I'm thinking a radiation cannon, what do you think about that?
Radiation cannon bitchz!
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Flasher, +10 for the first laugh of the morning.
Time for a revival: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outbreak_(film)
Well that escalated quickly....
So is it still OK to have sex with the dead or not?
No criminal. Listening to public officials is now a death sentance, so lieing to the public aught to be.
Missinforming the public needs to be criminal and punishable. The CDC just killed a family and soon will lead to the death of your own.
That is if this is as verilent as we are lead to believe. Soon we will have that answer.
Amazingly, the CDC owns “the” patent on Ebola and all future strains.
The “SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION” section of the patent document also clearly claims that the U.S. government is claiming “ownership” over all Ebola viruses that share as little as 70% similarity with the Ebola it “invented”:
Why would a government organization claim to have “invented” this infectious disease and then claim a monopoly over its exploitation for commercial use? It is clear that the CDC plans to claim royalties on Ebola vaccines. This certainly increases the likelihood that the vaccines will become mandatory, thus increasing the profit potential for the patent holders.
Clearly, Ebola is manmade and this patent proves this contention. Why does the CDC need to own the patent on Ebola? Perhaps, we should ask Bill Gates why he is donating $50 million to the UN and the CDC in the name of fighting Ebola (see video below). The CDC has partners in the fight against Ebola, namely, Crucell, the National Institute of Health (NIH) and the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) and, of course, Bill and Melinda Gates.
Do you understand how much we are being lied to by the media on this topic? The work on an Ebola virus, sanctioned by the holder of the patent for the vaccine, the NIH), has been ongoing since 2004 with clinical trials in 2006. This explains why the CDC and the NIH are bringing Ebola patients into the country to treat. The moment that an Ebola patient crosses the U.S. border, they become the intellectual property of the CDC, NIH and Bill and Melinda Gates! How can we not believe that this is the Hegelian Dialectic run amok in a case of problem creation, solution to the problem and reaction to the problem?
The involvement of the USAMRIID is noteworthy because the Army has long been rumored to have created Ebola and, for purposes of experimentation, implanted the artificial virus in Zaire in 1977.
When an unsuspecting public is finally told of the existence of an Ebola vaccine, the Global Fund will be in charge of the distribution of the vaccine. Interestingly, Bill Gates has donated a total of $560 million dollars to the Global Fund. The Global Fund has also positioned themselves to be in charge of the distribution of the “newly developed”, and not yet announced vaccines for TB and HIV. Since the goal is the vaccination of every man, woman and child on the planet with multiple vaccines, Gates’ $560 million contribution to the Global Fund is chump change compared to the expected ROI. However, on deck is the Ebola virus.
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/09/17/the-cdc-nih-bill-gates-own-...
Follow the money
Always follow the money. This is how we know they are behind it. Because the virus that possesses the Oligarchs displays its symptoms in their sociopathic need to make $$$$ on everything that they touch. And they touch everything.
According to ancient legend the white race results from a nuclear explosion in what is now the Gobi desert some 30,000 years ago. The civilization and techniques which made the explosion possible were wiped out. The only survivors were slaves marginal to the area who had no knowledge of its science or techniques. They became albinos as a result of radiation and scattered in different directions. Some of them went into Persia northern India Greece and Turkey. Others moved westward and settled in the caves of Europe. The descendants of the cave-dwelling albinos are the present inhabitants of America and western Europe.
In these caves the white settlers contracted a virus passed down along their cursed generation that was to make them what they are today a hideous threat to life on this planet. This virus this ancient parasite is what Freud calls the unconscious spawned in the caves of Europe on flesh already diseased from radiation. Anyone descended from this line is basically different from those who have not had the cave experience and contracted this deadly sickness that lives in your blood and bones and nerves that lives where you used to live before your ancestors crawled into their filthy caves. When they came out of the caves they couldn't mind their own business. They had no business of their own to mind because they didn't belong to themselves any more. They belonged to the virus. They had to kill torture conquer enslave degrade as a mad dog has to bite. At Hiroshima all was lost. The metal sickness dormant 30,000 years stirring now in the blood and bones and bleached flesh.
He cut himself shaving looked around for styptic pencil couldn't find one dabbed at his face with a towel remembering the smell and taste of burning metal in the tarnished mirror a teen-aged face crisscrossed with scar tissue pale grey eyes that seemed to be looking at something far away and long ago white white white as far as the eye can see ahead a blinding flash of white the cabin reeks of exploded star white lies the long denial from Christ to Hiroshima white voices always denying excusing the endless white papers why we dropped the atom bomb on Hiroshima how colonial peoples have benefited from our rule why look at all those schools and hospitals overgrown with weeds and vines windows melted dead hand frayed scar tissue lifted on a windy street lying white voices from the Congo to Newark the ancient mineral lie bleached flesh false human voices slow poison of rotting metal lies denials white papers The Warren Report he picked up a shirt white wash flapping in the cold spring wind Oppenheimer wipes a tear from one eye with one long finger.
William S. Burroughs - Exterminator! "The Evening News"
Dude, you may want to lay off the si-fi films a bit.
http://truthsector.net/2014/09/26/ebolagate-2014-the-bbc-confirms-in-com...
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Sahelian Nomad7 hours ago
I am from West Africa and I approve this video!Last I called Expired home to ask about Ebola, They Said Basically the Sami thing .... There Were only aware of it from the TV; and the purported single patient in Dakar (Guinean student As They Claimed) WAS shown later in good health. When will the masses wake up?
================ * To * my people ======================
Do not believe in what the news report on Ebola, it is a big lie and conspiracy
Do not believe what the media tell about the Ebola virus, it is a false epidemic of a complete fabrication ... a big fib!
Wote ngummeh Ebola Mbope qhaalata, ?um wonaani goog'o, um ko Bole puué
Bullënn gueum daraa will read nju Len di jotaali it xibaaru Ebola bii of bëneu deugg, aay kecé the Fen
"The truth of the matter is that these unholy and untrustworthy associations, when it comes to “fighting” the Ebola virus, represent the mere tip of the iceberg.
The more on digs into who is behind the creation and the development of vaccines for treating Ebola, the more the conspiracy networks widen. "
This is a quote from your "source."
Your above rant, Chupa, is bullshit, as is your source. To suggest that scientists working at CDC, NIH or anywhere else on vaccines and treatment for Marburg or ebola is part of some vast conspiracy to fleece the public is so stupid that it boggles the mind. You had better believe that patents were filed for these medicines. That is the only way to prevent the theft of that intellectual property, and keep it in the hands of organizations that have spent billions of dollars and decades creating drugs that cure diseases for millions, if not billions of human beings. Perhaps you would rather have Ciba-Geigy or Eli Lilly holding the rights, and charging thousands of dollars a dose? Bill and Melinda Gates have done more positive work for the poor and disadvantaged on this planet than the likes of you will ever manage in a millnium or three. You have no more right to judge their work than to call the NIH the tool of Monsanto. The only thing 'unholy' here is the anti-science and preposterous stupidity that people like you and your precious Dave Hodges spew out on the blogosphere.
"The more on digs into who is behind the creation and the development of vaccines for treating Ebola, the more the conspiracy networks widen. " is misspelled: "The moron digs into..." would be far more accurate in this case. And by the way, the Crucell website doesn't actually exist.
Well, I'd listen to you instead of 'public officials,' but I don't generally take advice from morons who can't spell simple words in their native tongue. Keep spreading the fear and bullshit, though. We already have plenty of good ideas for how to deal with this plague. [NOT]. Its so comforting to know that so many idiots are on the job, though precious few of them are at CDC. Why not take iot up with your teaparty pals and the GOP dumbfucks who have gutted funding for health agencies here, at WHO and elsewhere? Why not take it up with the likes of Tennant Healthcare and the other murdering bastards who now own our medical systems and pillage it for profit instead of paying attention to finding cures for real problems? ED may be more profitable than a vaccine for ebola, but which would you rather have in a year's time?
The quality of comment on this blog has been reduced to idiocracy ever since the Tylers were sent to Gitmo and it abandoned its original purpose. The sorry fact is that we deserve this disease. WE are the cancer on this planet, and morons who can't be bothered to learn anything beyond what their TV's tell them are the vectors of their own destruction. Bubonic raged on the planet for three hundred years. Apparently it didn't weed out all the idiots. Maybe this one will. If you are too stupid to recognize the resources you actually have to try and survive (which includes the entire existing medical infrastructure), then kindly perish and be done with you. And maybe before you do, pick up a third-grade spelling primer and improve your vocabulary.
Somehow, I don't think the virus cares how you voted.
By the way, you misspelled "it"
I saw that. I'm abashed.
retarded? no.
crimal? yes.
By the time this is confirmed by CDC, it would have been a few weeks too late.
In the meantime, Frieden will say everything is well contained...much like Bernanke saying inflation is well contained.
Ebola is the new subprime!
also works the other way around
I am convinced the CDC knows the truth. My CDC contact is strangely quiet and we have had a very open informative relationship. My gut says they can't divulge this because of the panic that would ensue and are praying for a miraculous outcome, a few hot spots that burn out. The other scenario is unthinkable.
Closing the borders would admit they believed there was danger. So they must remain open to keep up appearances. Believe me, the smart ones are planning for the worst.
Miffed
And there is no truth to the rumor that the CDC has hired Kevin Bacon as a crowd control specialist.
Good to see you around Miffed.
pods
+1 Miffed. Apparantly we were thinking the same thing, but you type faster. ;)
They are being tight lipped due to fear of reprisal and there is debate within CDC as evident at the brown bags.
They are being tight lipped because this makes one of the pet causes of the establishment look very, very bad. It's hard to have comprehensive immigration reform when those immigrants are spreading a deadly virus.
Miffed, the wife and I are planning on Armageddon. This fucker has legs. I'm absolutely sure I saved my wife's life by pretty much telling her we are leaving NYC and thereby removing her from the ER. She's called this thing since the beginning. I thought I'd get flack for the Tychem suits, but she said they were smart to have. I knew then and there it's going full fuck!
Anyone want to start a petition asking the CDC director to stand in the path of a coughing / sneezing Ebola victim to prove to us there is no danger?
When they do close the border, it won't be to keep people out.
I can't help but agree with you, Miffed.
I'm sure our neighbor's south of the border will contain it well once it gets there..... I'm seeing visions of mad max and building fires in mexico city that would make mad max look tame.
And, as we all know the probability of it getting across the southern border is zero after that.
The truth is, it's finally really, really hit critical in Africa... people are giving up not burying their dead... going on strike but, the virus isn't on strike... it's still doubling every 3 weeks and, in three weeks, there will be more dead than that have the virus today.
I have to admit... this has me worried.... There needs to be some sort of vaccine... hopefully, there will be one... and hopefully, we can stay it for a while before we have it here on a major scale.
Captain Tripps, anyone? tick tock, tick tock...
After much study and talking with Parrotile who has worked with level 4 agents, I am dubious an efficacious vaccine could be developed. The immune response to Ebola is massive but not very neutralizing. Compare this to Rabies, another RNA virus. Upon rabies viral entry into the body and also after vaccination, the body produces virus neutralizing antibodies which bind and inactivate the virus. Specific regions of the G protein have been shown to be most antigenic in leading to the production of rabies virus neutralizing antibodies.
The key is the action of Ebola which uses the immune system against the host. HIV is similar in this respect but it's action against the immune system is a different target. Ebola's claim to fame is a ridiculously low virion infection number and high mutability. I can't imagine given these facts this monster can be easily stopped. My decision still remains: Run. Sorry.
Miffed
Damn. That's not reassuring at all.
If something like this were to take off... I'd have really expected it to be a form of flu that would take maybe 10% of its victoms.... not this..... just the threat of this could change the world in a very short time once everyone sees the real threat of it.
I keep trying to tell myself that I'm overreacting and, I hope I am but, I'm watching closely.
so, I will be making some purchases this week probably to get a few things I'm missing knowing that I'd rather be wrong than wish I'd done something when I still could.
I don't want to push anyone into paranoia. I just don't want you to be complacent feeling a vaccine would stop this in its tracks. There may be some hope if a vaccine was somewhat efficacious giving some partial immunity so more could survive. This virus may mutate to a point where it becomes ineffective. The research I read was in its early stages of development, years away from clinical trials.
Understand, ZMAPP is not a vaccine causing the production of neutralizing antibody. Instead it is passive immunity. Big difference.
Keep your head, don't overreact and stay rational. Identify your weak areas and shore them up. I was lucky we survived a the worst wild fire in Cali history which started very close to my house. I thought I was prepared and my eyes were opened to my delusion. Good luck.
Miffed
If I remember correctly ZMAPP is a mixture of 3 monoclonal antibodies which, as you noted, would confer passive immunity. However such passive immunity should, in part, serve to buy time for the victim's own immune system to deal with the virus.
I concur with your assessment of how desperate the situation is. I haven't spent much time following attempts to deal with it though the insane incompetence surrounding the Dallas case with must surely garb the attention of anybody above moron grade. Anyway, what's needed is an all-hands-to-the-pump worldwide emergency response to deal with this pandemic on every front.
How fast can mass production of ZMAPP be ramped up? BCX4430 looks promising. How fast can it be put on line if it performs as well as indicated so far? Etc... Strict quarantine succumbed to lack of resources, ignorance and political expediency long ago but, obviously, merciless quarantine should be implemented wherever any question of its use arises. Unfortunately, societies everywhere appear too degenerate and degraded to deal at all effectively with this looming catastrophe.
Dup, sorry
Miffed
So is "absence of proof" "proof of absence" now, or not?
I'm confused. . . .
I believe you are correct miffed. The only problem I see is that if the real news gets out and people stop showing up to work, specficially at nuclear power plants, then we are all doomed. These plants must be maintained 24/7 for hundres of years if they have fuel in their fuel ponds. If people just stop showing up and the grid goes down, then there is no 'unthinkable' scenario....there is no scenario....
TPTB know this. They fear this more than we do. They will lie to contain this until the last moment. The only hope you have is to flee to the extreme north and extreme southern poles and try to make it until the contamination decreases because those plants will meltdown.
Jerry, I actually think you brought up a more important issue than mine. This is why I was so aghast we brought this virus to our country. In Africa the solution was simple. Small outbreaks that burned out before entering a major population center. The scenario is completely different for a first world country.
We are in the line of fire if the meltdown would occur and yes we have thought about that possibility. I have made plans at what point I will no longer go to work. This would probably be in the earliest stages of an epidemic here. At what point do the nuclear power plant workers make their decision? Are they contemplating this at this point?
I find myself living day to day now and experiencing all the pleasures of life I can. The other day I told my husband I wanted to go out for sashimi. He look a bit incredulous. " You really want to irradiate yourself?" Well, relatively speaking, it didn't seem like such a big deal any more.
Miffed
+1
Recall the words of one Jean-Claude Juncker...
"When it becomes serious, you have to lie."
I have a feeling they already know whether it is airborne or not. They will not say because it IS serious and they don't want to start a destabilizing panic.
"At this point there is zero risk of transmission on flights," said CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden"
Bullllllllshit. People have caught the disease in Africa by riding in a taxi, merely by sitting in the sweaty seat the previous ebola-ridden patient occupied. There is every risk of transmission on flights. The sweaty ebola patient touches your seat on the way to his seat. He touches the restroom door knob. He touches the seat phone. He touches the inflight magazine. He sat in your seat on the previous flight. Ebola is transferable through sweat, and everything that sweaty ebola patient handles now has fomites.
it's a good thing that air on transatlantic flights isn't recycled.
oh, wait...
Cue the Diceman.
"You're in a tube."
A flying pitri dish.
if this thing is airborne then the numbers relating to infection and death will exponentially increase within the next month, the numbers never lie.....oh wait a minute
I told this long ago...
If the Government says its ok well then it must be.
Oh and " If you like your plan, you can keep your plan "
Change you can believe in ...
Here's the excerpt from the next CDC briefing when they quaratine an entire plane load of passengers ... they were dying and spreading it so quickly from one to another. We finally came to the conclusion that the best action was to euthanize them all.
Foarward!
Why are the Africans not dying in large numbers then?
WHo said they dont?
900,000 Africans die from Malaria each year.
That's more than 200 times Ebola deaths, but thats not news.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/06/0612_030612_malaria.html
Starvation will kill more Liberians than Ebola.
Add deaths due to Crocodile attacks...
And who owns patents to Malaria?
And automobiles have killed more people than all the reported Ebola deaths. So what you ask? I don't have a 50/50 chance of dying everytime I get in a car. If I wanted to, I could avoid cars altogether. It's the whole "low probablility/high threat" issue. The probability of a global Ebola outbreak is increasing, needlessly. Last I checked you can't starve from contact with fomites.
Fatal car accidents and cases of Malaria aren't increasing exponentially either. If they were - we'd see panic on those fronts as well.
And you know they're not, how exactly?
Pictures or it didn't happen.
The media is even reporting about a dog being euthanised in Spain?!
Whatever happened to the Bird Flu, Swine flu etc?
Reading the characteristics of ebola, it should have already caused a havoc, even in Dallas?!
I take it, its a deadly virus but its effects are being exxagerated without much proof.
I am wondering where the mass outbreak in Lagos is.
Probably around the oilfields.
I think they contained that with a few lead vaccines and some gasoline soap.
"Pictures or it didn't happen."
You have heard of Google haven't you? Plenty of pictures there. All you have to do is type in ebola images.
Sorry, I meant pictures with plenty of dead people from ebola. :)
I get your point, but wasn't a cameraman just flown back to the US with Ebola? I dunno, could be a conspiracy, then again, may not be. I prefer we keep it over there, either way. ;-)
The US wants a permanent base in Africa to fight China for the resources. What better way than to get it under the guise of "sending help".
AFRICOM already exists.
"Pictures or it didn't happen"
Coming right up...
The Fight against Ebola
This is a Vice News three part series. Some jackass style journalism, but they do get on the ground and get people to talk to them. And you get to look around and feel the place. The interview with the doctor in the third part tells a huge story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AZidJ36nA0
Watch that and tell me your impressions do not change.
I watched it and realized that the numbers HAVE TO BE GROTESQUELY UNDER REPORTED.
MsC:
+100
Finally some reporters with balls. Everybody else pretty much repeats the same BS.
Partial takeback. I watched episode 3/3. He chickened out on suiting up and entering
Redemption Hospital.
I hear you (had a flash of the same thought), at the same time, he was out in the open with so many people waiting to get into a hospital, I gotta give him points for courage (or ignorance). The man clearly put himself at risk. I think I would have chickened out too, the doc was really strident I am unsure he would have even let him go back there.
Who says they aren't? You really think they can keep track of all the deaths? And if they can keep track of all the deaths, you really think they're going to report them?
Have a red for unsupportable naivete.
."Why are the Africans not dying in large numbers then?"
All the down arrows for asking a reasonable question? Good to know there are so many intelligent people posting on this site. Idiots
Yes we know that coughing spreads illness. This is not news, you dumb fucks.
http://www.mhlw.go.jp/english/topics/influenza_a/images/inful_a01.gif
You might want to send that to the CDC as they are the ones that think this is news.
- everyone but the CDC
So that stripper that coughed on me gave me aids. I knew it.
I'm thinking the snail trail contributed.
Just think of the resources required for that single idiot Duncan. Dialysis, Ventilator, Isolation, Persistent hydration...
Now, multiply that by just 1000. Yeah, we're fuked! And the "Leadership" asks you to remain calm? Get in front of this, big time, you stoopid fukers!
not only that but they will have to throw the dialysis and ventilator machines away when they are finished treating him.
Cure him and we get: Moar Runners!!
We're fucked...
there are not 1,000 isolation rooms in the whole country.
There are 19 in the US and 4 in the UK
....and ERs are gonna be centers for disease spread. Nurses will be calling out of work if not quitting outright.
Wife is an ER physician at the only level 1 trauma center within 200 miles. Even she is starting to get a little nervous. Latest CDC guidelines most certainly have health officials treating this as airborne.
It's cool. Every diseased or scared of being diseased African is making plans to come here cuz Duncan got the white man experimental drugs. Umbutu and Dokututa are buying flights right now!
And for that reason, besides (and more importantly) costing industry mucho dinero, dood ain't gonna make it.
Boom, Duncan has died.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5952502
Better hurry up then Umbutu!!
COSTCO beats earnings estimates so the recovery is here. Not even Ebola can stop this recovery!
If Ebola isn't spread by sputum (aersolozied) why so many sick Doctors and Nurses?
Why is Spain euthanizing the dog (i.e. - how the hell did the dog get it?)?
Next quarter earnings report by Costco will include that the huge sales came as a result of unbelievable demand in Kirkland brands of Ebola Prep kits which were cited as the reason for the big beat in EPS.
lol...the Kirkland Mac 'n Cheese was the worst I ever had; my kids wouldn't eat it.
I have never had a bad Kirkland product myself. Their shit rocks. At least it did before I found out that Costco was a major communist dem donor and I stopped shopping there after canceling my membership.
their t shirts are high quality but the neck is way too big
"How the hell did the dog get it"
Apparently Spain gots some of those tribal dog fukers!
Believing that it is a sexually transmitted disease is going to kill you.
Dogs potential vector for ebola
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15757552
Shoot old yellen quick....
Oh, wait....naa....
The old paradigm with bubonic plague was that it was spread by fleas on rats, however this has been challenged since after the plague got started it spread so fast that it had to have mutated and went airborne.
There was a paper done out if oxford I believe, that said it may not have been plague but hemorrhagic fever. That's why the rats and animals didn't die in droves but the humans did. The rats were the carriers but not affected. If it was plague, the rats should have died in droves as well.
From my own understanding it was never a single pathagon. It looks like it was many different kinds of illness going on at the same time.
Plague often infects the lungs; when it does it becomes pneumonic plague, which is spread in respiratory droplets, is highly contagious and has a 99.9% mortality rate without treatment within the first 24 hours of developing symptoms. Archaeologists have excavated mass graves believed to have been from the plague years. Carbon dating of the bones has shown the graves to be from the right time period, and they have found Yersinia pestis DNA in the skeletal remains, so I believe the controversy regarding the identity of the Black Death has been settled.
Who foretold this prophecy?
Salzman, he's in accounting.
[/The Sword of A Thousand Truths]
It is time to put the CDC in charge of inspecting the cleanliness of those swirly cone machines at McDonalds, and nothing else.
It's time to teach Friden to say "Would you like fries with that, Ma'am?"
We may have to try everything. 2014 published research demonstrating antiviral properties of silver:
Antiviral properties of silver nanoparticles on a magnetic hybrid colloid.
Among the three types of AgNP-MHCs tested, Ag30-MHCs displayed the highest efficacy for inactivating the viruses. The ?X174 and MNV were reduced by more than 2 log10 after exposure to 4.6 × 10(9) Ag30-MHCs/ml for 1 h.
Park S1, Park HH, Kim SY, Kim SJ, Woo K, Ko G.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24487537
Check out the BS...epic save happening here lol
https://www.tradingview.com/x/MnYgp1pO/
Think about this. Borders purposely wide open. No banning of flights from affected countries. No real screening of passengers. The cui bono is the CDC, a private corporation who holds the patent, and BIg Pharma who will issue the vaccines. Meanwhile, enough will have to die so tha the wet dream of martial law can be instituted.
We're under attack!!!! Mayday! Mayday!
That's it I don't want to smell Ebola farts now.
Was thinking how they smelled.
As mentioned in a previous article on ZH, if you're desperate to get out of a EM with Ebola to a DM with real healthcare, would you lie on a question form and also take Advil/Aspirin for your fever? The Thermal Temp check at the airport
check-in is not foolproof.
At this point there is zero risk of transmission on flights," said CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden...
Zero my ass. Time to cancel my vacation plans for the next ten years.
At this point there is zero risk of transmission on flights," said CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden...
BALDERDASH.
ZERO RISK UNTIL IT TAKES OUT EVERYONE ON A FLIGHT. OOPS! SO SAWRY. WEEZ MISKALKULATED.
*on airplanes there is this "thing" called "circulated air"
So, hop a public flight, assholio.
TEPCO is that you?
Healthpopes translation cribsheet:
"At this point there is zero risk of transmission on flights" = It's being transmitted on flights
"We just don't have the data to exclude it." = The data tells us it's happening
"Ebola is not transmitted by the air. It is not an airborne infection," = It's airbone
"Being dogmatic is, I think, ill-advised, because there are too many unknowns here." = We know it's being transmitted on flights, and is airborne
"God knows what this virus is going to look like. I don't." = We're fucked
"some" infections may have occurred via "aerosol transmission." = It's airborne, it's being transmitted on flights, we're fucked
All asscovering for Obamola who won't stop flights out of Ebola countries.
Also of note: "we're in the middle of the first experiment of multiple, serial passages of Ebola virus in man.... God knows what this virus is going to look like. I don't."
Whether there is an airborne vector component or not does not matter at this point. When the current crop of infected persons becomes 'late-stage' the virulence and capacity to transmit this infection increases exponentially. The first people brought to the US were early stage victims. How's that guy in Texas doing? Not so well, i would think. If they cure him I'll be impressed. Otherwise i expect his death will be imminent. We're going to have highly contaminated corpses piling up soon enough. Containment is a mathematical improbability.
Looks like my imminent prediction was correct.
Pnuemonic Ebola. Let's hope this is the last time you see that phrase.
At last some non-Establishment experts are admitting what some of us have suspected for some time: Ebola may be airborne. It is probably mutating.
This suspicion is strengthened by the fact that within the last hour, a UK Sly News "know-nothing" ""journalist"" has adamantly repeated the official line that it can only be passed on by contact with infected body fluids.
At this point we need to assume it is airborne and respond accordingly.
Ebola is not spread through the air. Period. Our leaders would never lie to us.
However, Ebola is very likely spread through droplets of "body fluid" suspended in the air as the result of a cough or sneeze.
See - no lies being told. It all depends on what the meaning of "air" is.
A page straight from Bill Clinton.
Yeahbut ... all air that we breathe has water vapour in it, hence the Humidity Index that gets published. Ebola can be carried in the water vapour, hence it's airborne.
This is a time to avoid locations with high relative humidity.
Admitting they are mistaken will be far less costly in the long run. I am pretty sure there will be a desire for public executions if these clowns are proven wrong. And they will be proven wrong.
In a few weeks or months, after the virus is fully in pandemic mode, they'll just say "We weren't wrong about the virus not being airborne, but it's since mutated."
Oops.
By Elise Viebeck
The Ebola virus becoming airborne is a possible but unlikely outcome in the current epidemic, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Tom Frieden said Tuesday...
So NOT ZERO THEN HEY ASSHOLE?
Now I have buyers remorse over my commuter express ticket.
Open mic at Ebola press conference "we're screwed"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju-xqofwBv8
now THAT is quite the find!
By the time people figure out they've been lied to, there will be a lot less people to apologize to.
Expert....lol
Yea, they're all experts at everything except common sense, doing their jobs and thinking.
Everone just cough in to your elbow if you can tell it from your ass. Then wash your elbow and ass at your work shitter.
Then run down the cdc and toss a bag of sh!t out the car window.... <- it's ok the cdc said it was cool
Uhhh...Ohhh, that means all the toilet seats in D.C. must remain closed until further notice.
Are the glory holes still going to be open though?
""At this point there is zero risk of transmission on flights," said CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden, "
You're doing a hell of a job Tommy
The idiots er, I'm sorry, 'experts' who continue to baffle with bullshit, er, I mean assure us there is nothing to worry about are just breeding complacency and ignorance...and that always ends in tears (or bleeding orifces, as the case may be).
http://olduvai.ca
This is very uninspiring of confidence. Sneezes are bacteria projectiles at 100's of miles per hour.
As a scientist, this guy is being disingenuous.
Shhhh. Don't wake the sheeple.
A link to back up your assertion good Sir.
Those bacterial projectiles can travel up to 35 feet.
Whatever they then land on is then "HOT"
http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/mythbusters-database/sneez...
This is EXTREMELY bullish. Long funeral homes and ody bags
Obama talking to staffer:
"Have we intentionally destroyed Health Care?"
"check, Mr. President"
"Have we reduced working hours and raised inflation?"
"check"
"Are other companies following suit and dropping health coverage?"
"check"
"Last thing, are we removing 'hemorrhagic virus' from our list of coverage?"
"cough"
Surprised no one has mentioned the Jesse Jackson trip to visit the family of Duncan - sans respirator... The hospital decided not to treat him with avant-garde anti-virals and sorta just let him - well, you know. Some 'justice' maybe...? Hi-Jackson smelled this quickly and made a Rayciss-shunting trip to the family. Very next day Mr. Black Africa gets 'experimental' treatment...
Tell you this right now: Jesse Jackson gets away with this shit ONLY because white society by-in-large, is well behaved and there is societal stability. Let this stuff take hold, and Duncan, Jackson and the rest of this cabal become a 'lightening rod' the likes of which only your wildest imagination would conjure up. In other words, affiliation of any sort with Jesse Jackson is the LAST affiliation one would Ever want to be linked to...
If it's not airbourne, then why do the Dr's and nurses treating the patient wear respirators? If ebola is only spread via bodily fluids, then why is the quarentine so severe? Is it to keep the Dr.'s from sticking the patients excrement up their noses? All good they say. We should not worry. I mean, when was the last time the federal government lied to us? I think I'll answer the question myself. They have never lied. It is just the tea party making stuff up because they are racists.
Correction: dey be raysiss
"At this point there is zero risk of transmission on flights," said CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden
The arrogance of these people believing they can contain nature and that there ia zero risk is astounding. These fuckers need to be thrown into the slums of Nigeria along with the bankers and politicos to live and die prematurely in that squalor.
Please don't hate them, Doc. This is what progressives DO.
Devotees of "Sigh-yense!", they manage the atmosphere, water production, energy equity, global warming, and justice.
No, wait. Go ahead & hate them all you want.