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30% Of Americans Support Property Seizure
Following yesterday's diuscussion of the fact in the Land of The Free, Property Rights rank 36th in the world, we thought it fascinating that, as Rasmussen finds, 70% Oppose Police Seizure of Property Without A Criminal Conviction - Americans strongly believe someone needs to be convicted of a crime before their property can be seized, even though that’s contrary to current federal law and police practice. Which means a rather stunning 30% of Americans believe it is fine...
Here are the Rasmussen poll questions...
1* The government can now seize an individual’s property if it believes that property was obtained through criminal activity. This process is known as civil forfeiture. Do you favor or oppose the government’s seizure of an individual’s property this way?
2* Under the current law a criminal conviction or even a criminal charge is not necessary to seize someone’s property. Should a criminal conviction be necessary before authorities seize someone's property?
3* Do civil forfeitures violate the Constitution's prohibition against illegal search and seizures?
4* Do you believe that someone charged with a crime is innocent until proven guilty or that they are guilty until proven innocent?
5* Which is more likely – that most police departments seize property to ensure public safety or that most police departments seize property because it’s a major revenue source?
As Martin Armstrong exclaimed,
The police have become outright criminals and can confiscate people’s property and keep it for themselves.
The clip below is one of the best explanations we have seen. It correctly states that the legal action is against the property – NOT YOU!
(h/t @Not_Jim_Cramer)
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....no doubt. The 30% that works for gov.
Bingo. Between the various branches of LEO and the departments/agencies that benefit from the siezures... you have your 30%.
70% opposed is about the best you can hope for.
Cops and soldiers hate it that I constantly refer to them as government workers.
It is the little things in life that keep me going.
Take from the rich and give to the poor
Didn't realize the LEO's were "poor". They aren't shaking down the Warren Buffets and Bill Gates of the world either. I don't think its quite the Robin Hood effect you envision...
Americas LEO's are voting next week to join the American Food, Beverage and Justice Dispensers Union (Local 666)
Accordingly when approved we urge all citizens to kindly begin tipping your arresting officer 100% of whatever is in your wallet.
Hugs ~ LEO's
Best path to become millionaires these days are corrupt cops seizing money, being elected to Congress to steal it legally, or collecting outrageous government pensions after 20 years of hiring contractors to do your job for you.
30% support "other people's property" seizure, but not their own.
As a staunch liberal, I strongly do not believe that corporations are people. But properties clearly are.
70% will kill you over the issue, im with them.
Four chan, I'm with ya on that as well.
Gatorboat and I had a little Back and Forth on this topic. Can be seen at top of page 2.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-08/land-free-ranks-36th-world-resp...
I'll help you hold em' down.
Who cares, you're a liberal, so you automatically vote FOR this shit. Oh, and you're a moron.
+1 Precisely!
The Paradoxes at the Heart of the “Progressive” Project (March 7, 2011)
http://www.oftwominds.com/blogmar11/faux-progressive3-11.html
The Paradoxes at the Heart of the “Conservative” Project (March 8, 2011)
http://www.oftwominds.com/blogmar11/faux-conservative3-11.html
Let’s go beyond left and right and UNITE!
Why do people keep repeating the distorted version of what Robin Hood was all about? Read the book, people. He fought against over-taxation. His opponents were the illegitimate fovernment and TPTB of the time.
Your version of history has been conveniently corrupted like lots of other versions of history. Sorry to break it to you.
When wez takes dem stuffs it be seizin da goodies. We be fo it. Wait fo da game dis week-aind.
"Which means a rather stunning 30% of Americans believe it is fine..."
... and the other 70% sit back and let it happen.
That's why America isn't worth saving.
Let it go communist. Not worth risking my life trying to stop it.
All we know is what the 70% "voted" for, and nothing about what the voting of the 30% was.
It's said only 10% started the American Revolution...
Good luck coming up with 1% today. That's 3.5 million ready to head to DC locked loaded willing to die to take govt back. More than enough I would think, all you need to do is clear out regime in DC, it all eminates from there.
No way you could muster 3.5 million. Maybe 350,000 (0.1%). Not near enough.
This "revolution" stuff sounds good till you put numbers on it. Then you realize you don't have the numbers.
Guns don't start a revolution. People do. 400 million guns sounds great. But you couldn't muster 350,000 people ready to use them.
And "muster" is pretty much impossible today. Certainly couldn't do it over the interent.
And let me explain how constitutional muster works. 3/4 of state legislatures issue proclamation of intent to dissolve federal govt, call up reserves/militia/etc, give dates and places of reporting for duty, then all head to DC to dissolve federal govt.
See, devil is in the details. No way would 3/4 of state legislatures do that. Not even 1/4.
Secede? It would take 10 contiguous states seceding to have any chance of success. No way you could come up with 10 contiguous states.
Grass roots revolution? It's unconstitutional. Constitution forbids it. Along with being numerically impossible.
Takes from the poor and gives to the rich.
Takes from the poor and takes from the rich
You get rich faster that way... it's what Jesus would have wanted...
Steals from the poor...
And gives to the rich...
That lousy bitch
30% of people are on drugs...
30% would still vote for Obama again too; you can't fix stupid.
I bet there are more than 30% that would vote for him.
I bet less than 30% of Democrats up for reelection this year would publicly take that position.
non of them understand that they aren't really 'taxpayers' either, but tax consumers. They say they have taxes taken out of their pay like everyone else, but fail to understand that the money is their paychecks is money taken out of the productive sector at gun point and given to them
But that segment's opinion doesn't matter, so like all polls, this one is just as useless.
p.s. I once replied to honestann's post saying there are only two kinds of people in this world: those who believe that other people are their property, and those who don't.
How about that for a poll (like it would matter).
a vast majority of people would say that no, they don't believe other people are their property, and be shocked you would even ask that question. And then, those same people would say that yes, they do believe that you should pay taxes from your earned income to the govt, and they are also fine with the govt then giving that money to other people. They would also have no problem with social security, etc. In what is perhaps the greatest propagnda trick ever pulled, people are able to vote for and support things like this, and still say they live in 'the land of the free' with a straight face, and never be aware of the irony. War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength
"It's not slavery if there's a middleman involved!!!"
You should ask a waiter or waitress the question as to whether they support government redistributing to those in "need" and some will surely agree. Then give them a zero tip and tell them that you are donating it to charity. See how they like it.
He's called a walking boss, and only thinks he's management. In for a penny, in for pound.
Been watching 'hell on wheels'?
What about the "auctionire (sp) at a slave auction? Just being ornery. Milestones
Funny, the Fed thinks it is not monetizing the debt if there is a middleman involved.
Those people never hit the end of their chain, so they don't realize that there is one attached to the collar around their neck. They just think the collar is a cute necklace.
100 % don't support seizure
...if its their property
of course I'm assuming sanity
Exactly, The American Fuhrer's ranking never drop below 40% because 40% never pay taxes and use the gov't to steal from the rest of us. The gov't employs 30% of the country, and those f'heads are always going to put that ahead of the good of the nation be it loss of property rights or whatever.
Yup. It's not a matter of principle, only livelihood.
Well, not quite 30% actually work for the government. But certainly over 30% either work for the government or are sucking on the government teet, locally or nationally. They need those funds. It's only good to be a socialist for them as long as you have someone else's money to pay for it.
I'd love to see some decent stats on guv employees to the 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree.
Hell, I'd pay for that.
maybe not 30%, but if you factor in employees at companies at companies like lockheed and boeing whose primary purpose is making weapons for the empire(and every GM employee, for that matter) Id bet we are pretty close. I still think the way this is set up more closely resembles fascism than socialism, but its a meaningless debate, i suppose. Both are totalitarian, both are wrong
I believe it is 30% if you count all levels (federal state county city school dist water dist etc). Don't forget federal includes all the quasi-federal stuff like Fannie Mae, CDC, etc.
Add FSA MIC medical pharma academia and other teet suckers and it's 60% easy.
How do you bring in communism without a fight? Simple, get 60% supporting it.
80% of Americans already have communist mentality, govt is 100%.
What is communist mentality? One word: Fairness
80% of Americans have that mentality. Maybe 90% Maybe 95%. Govt is 100%.
Rights aren't taught anywhere. Fairness is taught everywhere.
In other words, communism is taught everywhere.
They will call them "Chavistas", and they will come to every paid off home in the neighborhood with pitchforks and the Sheriff.
"And we want the gold and silver too, you traitor"
Plenty of the brainless go for all sorts of things as long as it's put in the right terms. Recently a 'liberal' was telling me why "it's a good idea for armed drones to fly over America - to protect us from terrorists".
Stupidity has it's price and many Americans seem quite willing to flush freedom down the drain to preserve their stupid notions.
One of the more astounding things about America under Obama is how he has coopted supposed liberals to go along with his drone/wiretap/infinite-war policies. I have two "liberal" friends who told me there are A-OK with our drone policy and wiretaps on ANYONE. I am SURE these people would not have supported these policies under Bush.
30% aren't even aware that there is a Constitution!
The 30% are the LIBERAL ones - shessh
I'm liberal and I think this is absurd. I honestly don't think this is a conservative vs. liberal issue. I can see a lot of "law and order" conservatives (term used very loosely) being in favor of convictionless property seizures.
Edit: BTW, am I the only liberal who reads Zerohedge? Genuinely curious if there are any others out there.
You are not alone on this racist Website. I am with you, Das Capitalist.
BTW...I am FOR property seizures. As a staunch liberal, I believe all of our properties belong to the State. All of our properties including monetary assets, real estate properties, infrastructure, natural resources, this land, the air we breathe, our life and our children. Just as long as the Democrats are in charge and our Dear Leader Obama is in the White House. If the Republicans take back the White House, then I'll be against all of these things that I am currently for.
Your parody of liberals consistently makes me chuckle. I agree with your last point especially. See my comment a few above the original one that you replied to. A lot of my "liberal" friends are in favor of a lot of the things Obama does even though they were staunchly against it when Bush did it.
You sound like a racist turncoat liberal to me. I will write a scathing diary about you and your ilk on dailykos.
30% probably don't even understand the question.
Can you repeat that?
What question?
can't understand what? ? ? actually, nevermind, dancing with the stars is about to start, Ill get back to you....
30% of the public still supports Obummer. So, what does that tell you?
That 25% of the non-tax paying people have turned on the American Fuhrer. That's saying something.
Just wait until the illegals become 51%!
Fucks are all gonna die of Ebola. Imagine the spread in the ghettos. Like wild fire. Mr Ebola be very happy there.
30% brainless fucks must be the FSA
You mean police and military members, right?
a better representation would be the protestors in Ferguson
You compliment them greatly by acceding to the LeftMedia's positive propaganda labeling of thieving, destructive, racist savages as "protestors".
OK.......many are transported-in, professional shit distrubers.
Well it doesn't really surprise me, at LEAST 30% of Americans are completely retarded.
Doesn't matter if 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% supports it, that does NOT make it right.
Fuck em, not enough left in me today. Kids got a ballgame too and the Mrs. will kill me if I show up there all pissed off.
Adios!
pods
Smile and wave, pods. Just smile and wave. :-)
And PODS....
Wave your hand. Nothing else.
PS Take a can of V8 Juice and make like yer pukin' and see what the reaction is.
Let us know when they let you out, OK?
Just curious
smile and wave..."sittin there on that sack of seeds"
he dug and he burned and he burned and he dug. All of our cute little weeds...
What? Like from Indians?
I thought this was settled with a handful of beads?
Considering almost half the working population is employed by government at some level, the number is surprisingly low.
No better way then to describe the people that deserve to be first in line for "property seizure" happening to them, along with the Federal, State or local government "altering" that property as evidence against them in addition to it's illegal confiscation!
In another study, 30% of Americans are really fucking dumb, 50% of Ameriicans are kinda dumb but mostly aloof, and the rest know what's actually fucking going on.
BTW, I bet if you ran an income graph along those polled, that the majority of the 30% of Americans for civil forfeiture are in the $100k+ year bracket.
Yup, and they probably don't know a damned thing about struggling. Infact, they are probably convinced of their own brilliance, wonder why 'these people' can't get their shit together, and publicly or privately think that 'these people' deserve what they get.
GO EBOLA!! GO EBOLA!!
GO EBOLA!! GO EBOLA!!
Go Eric Frein! Go Eric Frein!
"Friday September 12, got a shot around 11 p.m. and took it. He dropped ... I took a follow up shot on his head, neck area. He was still and quiet after that. Another cop approached the one I just shot. As he went to kneel, I took a shot at him and he jumped in the door. His legs were visible and still," the note reads, according to Bivens.
Infact, they are probably convinced of their own brilliance, wonder why 'these people' can't get their shit together, and publicly or privately think that 'these people' deserve what they get.
GO EBOLA!! GO EBOLA!!
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+1000
not going to take mine without a fight... it will not be pretty...
The Ghost of David Koresh?
not hardly. but i've worked for and saved and I will be damned if someone is just going to take my shit. you have to stand for something. this is my red line...
I do see your point.
Their strategy is the Flash-Bang that little girl received to her face.
A booby-trap under the porch would be nice. They Po-Po start breaking in… blow out the subdivision.
I suppose this 30% cannot comprehend 'the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated'
In other news, Census Department reports that a record 30% of working age Americans are members of law enforcement...
It is called looting. All the rave now.
That is EXACTLY what it is. The cops are looting the people.
Since the cops don't really know what a Constitution is...nor do they have a fucking clue what the Bill of Rights is, or for that matter WTF a Right means, they resort to taking cash from any poor schlub who happens to tweek them the wrong way.
Of course looting is illeagal unless it's called "Civil Forfeiture"...then it's just fine.
The more I talk about this the more the vein on the front of my neck and forehead bulges.....
Dey take yo' shit 'n' git me my EBT 'n' 'bamaphone, yo. Dat be fair cuz U fukkin c'mmittin crimez jus' lyke I does doin'. U O me shit!
Keep Obama in Preznit.
This is a positive. Only 60% of the FSA support looting OPP. The other 40% of the FSA need re-education camp.
Don't take this comment too seriously, but when ever I hear a poll that asks a stupid question about taking away civil rights, police state cops, government control, all of this, you seem to nearly always get a 30% group who support the destruction of all our rights.
30% who get the goodies.
Thanks, Rothschilds, for wrecking my country, you fucking douchebags.
Actually with the amount of people belonging to the FSA, I'm surprised that figure isn't a lot higher.
Why is this so surprising ?
More than 50% of the USA population LIVES on entitlement programs that are paid by confiscating earnings and running astronomical debt - why would it be surprising that the parasites believe it's OK for the politicians to steal peoples' earnings & property ?!?!?!?
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2013/08/failing-states.html
"Is Everybody safer after the Police has arrived (including the criminals) ? This is the Definition of Civilization and a Non-Failed Society . Usually seen as the Rule of Law ."30% of Americans are either mentally retarded or insane. Or both.
The thing to do is fill up bags in your car with Zimbabwe currency. You can get about 100 trillion in small notes for about $10.00. The cops will think they hit a gold mine until they start shuffling through it all. Then you leave one U.S. dollar in the middle of it all. Nice work. Where the fu-k are our lawmakers/representatives? Oh, I'm just kidding myself? Thanks.
That's actually a very cool idea. I'd love to do it just to see the look on their retarded faces when someone explains to them that the stuff is worthless: Priceless!
Great idea, the conversion fees will cost more than the paper.
thats odd as 90% of americans are idiots. the other 60% must've answered the question wrong.
i finally understand the song lyric "fuck tha police"
I would support property seizure with a spoon in it's mouth and clearing the passage way.
70% "Opposed" by no way means 30% "for". We have to consider the groups that makeup of this 30%.
- Group A (apathetic) don't care or refuse to give an opinion.
- Group B (bums) is so poor that they have absolutely nothing to be seized, and would be overjoyed to see someone with more than they have loose it.
- Group C (corrupt) contains the political, police and ruling class who are profiting from the seizures.
- Group D (dunce) the people at the extreme left of the Bell curve who didn't really understand the question.
This Tyler's been hitting the sauce early today (or he's really bored).Remove the police and government and you're probably left with 10% who can't spell their own name!
what are you waiting for .gov? seize their property.
I'm only surprised by the fact that only 30% of respondents supported asset seizure. If you are living the FSA lifestyle, there is no reason to oppose asset seizure . . . b/c you have no assets. In fact, everything you have comes from 'Santa Claus' Sam, who 'reparates' it from tha rich crackkkas. I bet those 30% figure there's a good chance that if the Fedcoats 'reparate' more shit from tha rich crakkkers, the FSAers will also see some new free shit.
Our post Constitutional era.
Baaaaahhhhh!
What do people expect when over 30% of people work for the predators-DBA-government directly or indirectly. They know theft is where their paychecks come from.
The 30% doesn't have jack shit and likes the idea of other people being made as poor as they are.
Do people ever get their money back?
The vast majority of people never get there money back. Here's why:
This is banana-republic style corruption (policing for profit), but both federal and state law and judges have institutionalized this into a major budget item for most police departments. I personally lock anything of value in a locked case in my locked trunk, and will never (ever) consent to a search if asked.
I wrote my congressmen and state officials - though it did no good of course.
Just don't travel with a lot of cash while driving in the US. It sucks but unfortunately it has become an increasing reality and necessity. I have had to deal with this crap twice in the past several years once while driving back from Northern CA on the 101 (CA plates but they routinely stop people looking for cash who buy weed in Northern CA) and while driving down to FL while my family by the local white hick force in SC outside of Columbia.
Your right it reminds me of a banana-republic though. It is nothing more than a basic shakedown and it is laughable on police can essentially pull you over whenever and whereever they feel like. Doesn't matter if there reason is completely lucridious.
If you need to travel with a large amount of cash, just do so with travelers checks. It is antiquated and a pain in the ass but overwhelming majority of hotels still accept them and odds that the police will confiscate them are really low since the police can't redeem them or sell them since they are useless without the authorized user's signature.
Missing the point and 70% don't and that is the real takeaway. Almsot always get 20% of people who respond with a batshit or ridiculous answer whenever you do a survey of the general public.
The really funny thing about all this is that not a single one of these cops sees anything wrong with what they are doing. They are so thoroughly corrupted that their sense of right and wrong has been rendered senseless.
And these are the people who supposedly stand between honest citizens and criminals. Right. That's because they want to get to the honest citizens first.
I mean it seriously, we should take that 30% property and then conduct the poll again. Police-state is COMING to America, would you have EVER thought? The communists won after all, er liberals.
“a stunning 30% of Americans believe it [arbitrary seizure] is fine…”
I don’t find it “stunning”.
After all, how do you think the so-called one percent perpetrates its genocides and general plunders? Do they put on riot gear and prowl streets looking for pedestrians or motorists with cash? Of course not.
The criminal elite would be powerless without their millions of foot soldiers that masquerade as bureaucrats and editors, teachers and storm troopers. I estimate there are some 20-30 million chair warmers and assassins known as public employees, another 20-30 million private employees who work for munitions makers and related suppliers that would have no reason for existence without the mutual (between two opposing states]slaughter of young and duped males. And then there are the useless eaters who are subsidized with several welfare programs.
And they all know health of tyranny is necessary to assure monthly checks to keep mortgages and car payments current and dope dealers happy; they know that, without a strong tyranny, they might be qualified to carry water, or sweep streets.
Useful-idiots know that without arbitrary rule, the $3-$6 Trillions in booty collected by cities and counties, special districts and states would have to be returned to those from whom it was stolen.
When I studied this for California, I found surpluses (about the year 2000) that divided out to $20,000 for every man, woman and child in the state; you read that right, every man, every woman, every child. Then I factored in numbers included only in footnotes and the dividend ballooned to over $40,000 for every man, woman and child.
These surpluses are in the form of cash and bonds, real estate and stocks, domestic and international; and represent an over-collection of taxes. See, ‘Who Owns City Hall?’ and ‘Of Lords and Cattle’.
Public Employee Retirement Systems (PERS) were/are a major part of these surpluses. By my estimate (as of 2000), PERS of all states owned $3-$6 Trillions of all publically owned corporations (Microsoft, General Motors et cetera). Members of PERS are, essentially, foot soldiers for the elite criminal class: without these foot soldiers, there’d be no one to carry out genocides and general plunders of the criminal class.
The existence of these surpluses lead to several questions, ‘Who owns such surpluses… and when do I get my dividend… and how?’
Americans have the power to redress any grievance that could be named – including recovery of such surpluses; and they (Americans) refuse to use that power. There are three main reasons for this failure: one is that they have no knowledge of such power; the second, they’ve been herded into a kind of impotent stupor by medication and indoctrination; the third, that they aid, benefit or were complicit in such evil (full article).
not a positive development at all. the question in my head, how can we go about efficiently re-educating and winning over the people that private property rights are a sacred constitutional right? it truly is one of the foremost rights the forefathers sought to protect when drafting the Constitution
When you give back the sacred property rights back to whom they belong in your philosophy, the Native Americans?
Actually and fortunately, they do not look at property as you do.
http://www.religionen.at/irgospelredman.htm
We should follow their example.
The Reconstruction Of Capitalismhttp://schalkenbach.org/henry-george/the-reconstruction-of-capitalism/
http://www.amazon.com/Mason-Gaffney-Reader-Solving-Unsolvable/dp/0974184...
None of us created the "property" called earth.
God did.
For all of us.
Exerpt from the Redman's Gospel.
"
THE Civilization of the Whiteman is a failure; it is visibly crumbling around us. It has failed at every crucial test. No one who measures things by results can question this fundamental statement.
Apparently, the money-madness is the main cause of it all. We know that such a thing was unknown among the Indians. Their big menace was failure of food supply, and against this they prepared by a storage plan that was effectual.
What is Civilization?
Literally, it is a system by which men can live in a large group (a city, or civitas) and enjoy all the benefits without suffering the evils that result from such association.
For example, a man with his family is living isolated in the woods. They make or capture all the necessaries of life. They defend themselves by fighting against the next family on the next stream, and their only answer to sanitary problems is to move out when the camp stinks.
But suppose one hundred families agree to live together in the same camp, and combine their efforts to solve more effectively the problems of hostile tribes, food failure, disease, social pleasures, spiritual life.
The men become cives. The resultant system evolved is a Civilization.
How are we going to appraise the value of a Civilization? By certain yard measures that are founded on human nature, and which remorselessly investigate the fundamentals of the man-mind and the man-needs.
First of these is:
Does your Civilization guarantee to you absolute freedom of action so long as you do not encroach on the equal right of your neighbour to do the same thing?
Does your system work for the greatest happiness of the greatest number?
Is your Civilization characterized by justice in the courts and gentleness in the streets?
Are its largest efforts to relieve suffering and misery?
Does your Civilization grant to every individual the force and rights of humanhood?
Does your system guarantee absolute freedom of religion?
Is everyone in your community guaranteed food, shelter, protection, dignity, so long as your group has these things in its gift?
Does your system guarantee the tribal control of tribal interests?
Does your system guarantee to each man one vote; but so much influence as his character can command?
Does your system guarantee to each man the product of his industry?
Does your system accept the fact that material things are of doubtful or transient value, that the things of the spirit are all that are enduring and worth while?
Does your system set larger value on kindness than on rigorous justice?
Does your system discourage large material possessions in one man?
Does your system provide for the sick, the helpless, the weak, the old and the stranger?
Does your system guarantee the integrity of the natural group called the family?
Does your system recognize and further the fundamental thought that the chief duty of man is the attainment of manhood, which means the perfect and harmonious development of every part and power that goes to make a man; and the consecration of that manhood to the service of one's people?
By every one of these tests, the White Civilization is a failure.
How is it that we of the Whiteman's way have just as much food in the land as ever we had, just as much wealth as ever we had, just as much need for labour, just as much material of every kind, just as much readiness to work; and yet we are facing a breakdown because we cannot co-ordinate these things into effective action?
Our system has broken down - our Civilization is a failure.
Wherever pushed to a logical conclusion, it makes one millionaire and a million paupers. There is no complete happiness under its blight.
Men of the White Race! We speak now as representative of the most heroic race the world has ever seen, the most physically perfect race the world has ever seen, the most spiritual Civilization the world has ever seen.
We offer you the Message of the Redman, the Creed of Manhood. We advocate his culture as an improvement on our own, if perchance by belated repentance, remorse, restitution, and justification, we may save ourselves from Divine vengeance and total destruction, as did the Ninevites in their final stance; so that we may have a chance to begin again with a better higher thought."
http://www.religionen.at/irgospelredman.htm
Great article. I knew I could count on the Daily Show.
But it is worth mentioning that just because 70% oppose does not mean that 30% approve.
I am only allowing my ebola to be confiscated. The rest of the stuff I want to keep.
“30% Of Americans Support Property Seizure”
Until it happens to them!
That 30% owns nothing anyways, they are all for it, cause they hope they will get it or some of it.
Perhaps the 30% are the ones getting the propery for pennies on the dollar at police auctions???
30% of Americans have no assets.
30% of Americans are to stupid to understand the words property seizure.