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German Journalist Blows Whistle On How The CIA Controls The Media

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Submitted by Michael Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

“I was bribed by billionaires, I was bribed by the Americans to report…not exactly the truth.”

 

- Udo Ulfkotte, a former editor of one of Germany’s main daily publications, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung

Some readers will see this and immediately dismiss it as Russian propaganda since the interview appeared on RT. This would be a serious mistake.

Whether you want to admit it or not, CIA control of the media in the U.S. and abroad is not conspiracy theory, it is conspiracy fact.

Carl Bernstein, who is best known for his reporting on Watergate, penned a 25,000 word article in Rolling Stone after spending six months looking at the relationship of the CIA and the press during the Cold War years. Below is an excerpt, but you can read the entire thing here.

In 1953, Joseph Alsop, then one of America’s leading syndicated columnists, went to the Philippines to cover an election. He did not go because he was asked to do so by his syndicate. He did not go because he was asked to do so by the newspapers that printed his column. He went at the request of the CIA.

 

Alsop is one of more than 400 American journalists who in the past twenty?five years have secretly carried out assignments for the Central Intelligence Agency, according to documents on file at CIA headquarters. Some of these journalists’ relationships with the Agency were tacit; some were explicit. There was cooperation, accommodation and overlap. Journalists provided a full range of clandestine services—from simple intelligence gathering to serving as go?betweens with spies in Communist countries.

 

Reporters shared their notebooks with the CIA. Editors shared their staffs. Some of the journalists were Pulitzer Prize winners, distinguished reporters who considered themselves ambassadors without?portfolio for their country. Most were less exalted: foreign correspondents who found that their association with the Agency helped their work; stringers and freelancers who were as interested in the derring?do of the spy business as in filing articles; and, the smallest category, full?time CIA employees masquerading as journalists abroad.

 

In many instances, CIA documents show, journalists were engaged to perform tasks for the CIA with the consent of the managements of America’s leading news organizations.

Like any good intelligence agency, the CIA learned from its mistakes upon being exposed, and has since adjusted tactics. This is where the concept of “non-official cover” comes into play. The term was recently described by German journalist Udo Ulfkotte, in a blistering RT interview. Mr. Ulfkotte was previously a respected journalist for one of Germany’s main dailies, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ), so he is no small fry.

“Non-official cover” occurs when a journalist is essentially working for the CIA, but it’s not in an official capacity. This allows both parties to reap the rewards of the partnership, while at the same time giving both sides plausible deniability. The CIA will find young journalists and mentor them. Suddenly doors will open up, rewards will be given, and before you know it, you owe your entire career to them. That’s essentially how it works. But don’t take it from me…

 

If this peaked your curiosity, read about Operation Mockingbird.

Also see my post: How Hollywood Became “Propagandist in Chief” by John Pilger

 

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Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:06 | 5309645 Bumbu Sauce
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Reported to fishy.gov.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:09 | 5309667 X.inf.capt
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goldman sachs rules the world...

including the CIA...

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:19 | 5309743 pods
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Yeah, the CIA controls the media.  Why?  Cause Amerika, fuck yeah!

CIA controls the media, bankers control the CIA. 

Hmmmm.

Or it could be the ekm theory?  Bankers vs MIC?

Who knows. They all can bloat a Liberian Goat for all I care.  

pods

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:23 | 5309772 max2205
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Then you get the poison micro dart

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:29 | 5309807 TruthInSunshine
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sepopeseehc

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:46 | 5309907 Wolferl
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There are soo many German journalists and politicans and others on the pay role of the US government. Actually old news but finally one of them speaks out. This is about time. But i doubt you´ll hear much about it in the German MSM. Well those running them are on the US payrole, you know.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:49 | 5309926 Keyser
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Yep, saw this interview yesterday... Do you think it will change anything?  Me neither... 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:54 | 5309947 zaphod
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The US's black budget for three letter agencies is roughly $80B/yr, at least as far as we know. 

That is a lot of cash to be able to spead each and every year. Just what do people think it's going towards? 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:59 | 5309971 Liberal
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COME ON, you guys....Who you gonna believe, a German dude with a toupee like that or my beloved government? 

 

Our government never lies.  Our government never lies.  Our government never lies...

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:02 | 5309986 The Juggernaut
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They are the spies for facism.  Check out a company named In-Tel-Q.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:04 | 5310008 Latina Lover
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How about going back into history, and researching operation Mockingbird?  Just google Mockingbird CIA and find out that there is nothing new under the sun.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:15 | 5310055 Divided States ...
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American billiionaires???? There are 2400 billionaires in the world as of last count...thats miniscue...but out of that 2400, half of them are Jews who own MSM.....any sheep dont wake up by this fact should stay on course to the slaughterhouse.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:25 | 5310133 Anusocracy
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And how many of those dickwads would uberwealthy without the existence of government?

Government chooses winners and creates losers.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:41 | 5310204 BellyBrain
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Makes one wonder how many "donations" a big site like ZeroHedge gets from the uberparasites...

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 19:50 | 5311536 espirit
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CIA in 1953?

 

Hold on, I've got to check that factoid.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 19:58 | 5311567 espirit
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OK, est. 1947.

 

Nice to know they thought Israel was a threat.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 01:19 | 5312768 palmereldritch
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Technically, now it's Operation Mockingherd

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:47 | 5310239 Colonel Klink
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The media is controlled!?!?!

._.  <--- my shocked face

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:53 | 5310268 honkadoo
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There's the Joos comment.  Thank you simple-minded fellow.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 16:45 | 5310578 Duffy
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So the fact {I'll assume, arguendo} that half of the world's billionaires are from a ethnoreligious group comprising less than .01% of the world's population has no merit as a topic of discussion, and, by inference, doing so is per se "anti-Semitic?"

 

One question:  can you provide a cogent argument as to why it is not a topic for discussion and per se 'hate' that does not merely presuppose same when and only when the group in question are "Joos"?

 

Take your time.  I'm genuinely interested.  Look up what it is to 'presuppose' if you must.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 17:29 | 5310875 Divided States ...
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Hey Duffy, youre not francis sawyer or Hy_Brasillian are ya??? some similarities with your writing.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 20:00 | 5311578 espirit
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If it was francis, ~  ~ ~ would still be a trademark.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 00:21 | 5312653 COSMOS
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If I wasnt baking bread right now I would weigh in on the Joooos. LOL

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 19:31 | 5311460 CapnJackDaniel
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You actually make some good points. But using 'per se' twice in such a short piece? Everything good you said you wrecked. 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 21:43 | 5312070 Duffy
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nope - if you know what per se means, you'll know why I specifically used it.

 

Clearly, someone who hates Jews can and often will talk about Jewish power.

 

But, and here's the rub, the point is that talking about Jewish power, as such, without more, in and of itself, is not "hate" - in fact, what is "racist" is claiming it is hate and forbidden to discuss Jewish power as such, but not caring about such discussions as to any other group.

 

Not one junker can provide an argument other than an illogical double standard.  I don't respect such a standard, even though it means being junked by people who aren't especially bright, use double standards as to sociological discussions, or both.

 

I estimate that most people here understand the nuance, but your average hasbara apologist for the racist, apartheid, colonialist, nuclear rogue state of Israel simply don't care about true versus not true.

 

I do - even if I am, no doubt, not always right.

 

Just almost always.

 

Relatedly - Israel did 9/11 - and it's not "anti-Semitic" to say so with reasons supplied - but it IS racist to presuppose that accusations that Israel committed a crime is racist, where the same people typically presuppose that Arab or Muslims did something or possess some negative quality or aspiration as a group.

 

www.lesvisible.net/DOCS/MastersOfDeception.pdf

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

http://zioncrimefactory.com/masters-of-deception/

 

 

A shorthand way of saying this is that the threshold for what we call "racist" is far too low for Jews as a group and for Israel - and that excludes needed conversation on, for example, the power of the pro-Israel lobby, which concerns me more than anything. 

 

It is patently obvious that when a small ethnoreligious group with deep ties to a foreign country which seeks to use US blood and treasure to protect it by attacking its neighbors gives half or more of private donations to both parties, when every candidate must kiss AIPAC's ring and kiss the wailing wall - this isn't because of 2.5% of the country's votes.

 

Anyone claiming it isn't a far topic of conversation is either too stupid to understand why it is, or is simply anious to protext disproportionate Jewish and/or Zionist power.  So flinging "anti-Semite" at discussion of that power is little more than a means to protect it - for the benefit of Jews and Israel, not American society as a whole.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 00:58 | 5312729 vie
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I suspect "Jew" is too broad a brush... which the Zionists want you to use so they can hide behind it.  These are generally not true Abrahamic Jews that reject Zionism we're talking about.  It's not Jews, but Zionists that are the problem.  The real root problem imho is any group that thinks they're both vitimized by and superior to everyone else... sounds a lot like the Nazi's when you think about it.  

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 01:26 | 5312774 BigDuke6
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Very smart for a jock, wee man.

Here is an important link - it may have been tidied up by now but it was the thread that changed ZH.  After this thread they brought in the new rules and banned some folks.

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-09-10/government-officials-say...

I rarely come on this site now.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 03:56 | 5312945 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen Duke.

Everything changed after Murdock bought the "ORIGINAL" hedge.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 07:36 | 5313224 mvsjcl
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Yep. "Clean" it they did.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 07:59 | 5313278 topshelfstuff
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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/10/09/israeli-espionage-has-compromise...

YouTube - Veterans Today -

“There has never been any prosecution that we’re aware of for Israelis cyber-spying because our national security is totally compromised when it comes to Israel, you just cannot prosecute Israel,” Jim W. Dean, managing editor of Veterans Today, told Press TV on Monday.

He made the remarks when asked about accusations levied against China by FBI Director James Comey.

In an interview on Sunday, Comey accused China of using extremely aggressive methods to break into US systems to steal information that would benefit their industry.

He said that the United States spends billions of dollars each year to counter what he described as China’s cyber-war against the American companies.

“Everything that he (Comey) accused China of doing, strictly with stealing trade secrets, the Israelis have also been doing for years and years, and including to that is military espionage and stealing nuclear secrets,” Dean said. “Treasonous Americans even in Congress, they make a career out of serving Israel in attacking the US and not only American Jews participate in this but non-Jews also,” he stated.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 06:10 | 5313064 barre-de-rire
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said the germano-american nazi. who built hitler, who rebuild same stuff in kiev 80 years later...

 

a-me-ri- K.K.K

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 23:46 | 5312567 Amerikan Patriot
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What I'm 'waking up to', Bob, is that you're a racist.

You silly (racist) goose!

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 06:00 | 5313057 CHX
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AP, DS just stated a fact, no judgment whatsoever.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 06:34 | 5313089 StandardDeviant
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But is it [% of billionaires...] a fact?  "Half" seems a) improbable, and b) highly likely to have been picked entirely out of thin air.

"Citation needed".

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:26 | 5310079 TruthInSunshine
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The 'Media' is an extension of the Military-Banking/WallStreet-IntelligencePsychOps-Pharma Complex.

The fukkin' CIA had that hunchback, Julia Childs, working for them back in the 1960s, FFS.

Anyone that disputes or has any doubt - at minimum - that the U.S. 'Media,' owned by 6 corporations (that own every branch of government as well as regulatory/enforcement agencies), in a pure state of Sheeple denial.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:28 | 5310147 Chupacabra-322
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"The fukkin' CIA had that hunchback, Julia Childs, working for them back in the 1960s, FFS."

Don't forget about Chuck Barris from Hit Show The Gong Show. These fuckers love Hollyweird.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:36 | 5310174 msmith9962
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I understand the director of the CIA was the unknown comic.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 17:49 | 5310991 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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A fantastic site if you want to get into spies, money and betrayal:

http://anolen.com/2014/10/01/cuneo-and-general-patton/

http://anolen.com/2014/09/23/walt-and-el-grupo/

These are just some of the recent postings. This stuff's been dirty long before 1948...

 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 16:08 | 5310342 Lore
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In-Q-Tel.  You touch on the saddest part of current affairs: priority has shifted from delivery of good intelligence, through cutting-edge data collection and analysis, in the ostensible pursuit of laudable goals, to the push for new and improved techniques for suppressing scandal and keeping the public in the dark.  It's a very unhealthy environment, where different individuals and groups jockey for power and where corruption renders whole regimes - including large parts of our own - dangerously unstable.  There is no "moral high ground."  It's a harsh reality check for eager beavers who suddenly find themselves in over their heads and likely to end up as bagholders for retiring psychopaths.  I would not want to be part of the intelligence community at this juncture.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 23:15 | 5312459 jeff montanye
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speaking of george herbert walker bush:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft3eGWZd7LE

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 03:11 | 5312902 StychoKiller
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Do some research on Wackenhut also.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:01 | 5309992 Latina Lover
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Our government always lies, our government always lies, our government always lies. 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:10 | 5310053 Liberal
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YOU RACIST!!!

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:22 | 5310117 Keyser
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You're doing it wrong... You're supposed to throw the bait first, then ease into the racial slurs... 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:27 | 5310143 Divided States ...
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Yup....leave that to me. I am the master at that.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 16:58 | 5310668 CH1
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Indeed.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 17:10 | 5310750 Liberal
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Hey Keyser,

YOU RACIST, TOO!

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:59 | 5309979 Wolferl
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Btw, Germany´s main daily newspaper is still the Bild with about 6 million copies afair. But those guys are bought by the CIA too.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 17:08 | 5310733 Jack Burton
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Good point "zaphod"! The black money that agencies get that is off the books is a mystery. We know it is huge, we know they have perfect freedom to spend it to buy influence, that is why it is black.

The Pentagon leaves about 75-100 billion totally black so they can buy influence and help buy leaders and military men from all nations across the globe. Take an officer in the Australian Navy for example, he will go on joint operations with US naval officers, he will be wined, dined, treated to whores, his wife may get a very special job at some US funded NGO. There is unlimted money to by influence. That is how America rules most of the world. Not by armies on the march, but by fiat dollars being accepted as a real store of value and allowing influence purchases.

King Dollar goes down, the entire American empire crashes into dust inside of a week!

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 18:45 | 5311214 RECISION
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 There is unlimted money to b[u]y influence. That is how America rules most of the world. Not by armies on the march, but by fiat dollars being accepted as a real store of value and allowing influence purchases.

Under "normal" circumstances, forging money is a crime.

.#mce_temp_url#

But not when they do it.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 03:31 | 5312917 new game
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King Dollar goes down, the entire American empire crashes into dust inside of a week!

the king is getting a limp disket, and will be standing naked, and hunched over ready to be tapped and fall the fuck into the sand face first only to be washed out to sea and bio degraded to carbon...

no save merica guy hear, deserve what you get and then some...

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 06:00 | 5313055 Lumberjack
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Evergreen -> Enron-> UPC... Black money in the green business.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:03 | 5310013 McMolotov
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"Wow, this seems like a big deal. So does ebola. Do you think it'll interfere with Thursday Night Football?"

—average American

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:21 | 5310114 Mountainview
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They are even on the payroll of their own government.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:24 | 5309774 filletandrelease
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Most of the comments on this web site are posted by the CIA.  Duh!

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:04 | 5310002 Chupacabra-322
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What I've been preaching / harping about since being here. Operation Mocking Bird in full effect. The Pure Evil Psychopaths Script writers at the Criminal CIA write & produce all the PsyOp, False Narrative & Propaganda for mass consumption by the sheeple.

The erradication of The Smith Mundt Act now makes it legal. I was seven years old when the following g was published:

After leaving The Washington Post in 1977, Carl Bernstein spent six months looking at the relationship of the CIA and the press during the Cold War years. His 25,000-word cover story, published in Rolling Stone on October 20, 1977, is reprinted below.

THE CIA AND THE MEDIA

How Americas Most Powerful News Media Worked Hand in Glove with the Central Intelligence Agency and Why the Church Committee Covered It Up.

http://www.carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:38 | 5310183 IndyPat
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...The erradication of The Smith Mundt Act now makes it legal....

I saw a DHS Magazine at Barnes & Noble. No shit.
I almost barfed 4 pages in, but was afraid it would be mistaken for symptoms. I listen to more radio than watching the tv.

Anyone notice that there are no commercials on radio anymore? All "public service messages" from the ad council. Propaganda 24/7.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 20:04 | 5311597 espirit
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Back in the day, the Israelis' were being watched because of their bullet making activities.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 22:22 | 5312250 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Also, radio is fucking dead dude. Why buy ads for radio, when you have Google?

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 00:33 | 5312682 RafterManFMJ
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DHS magazine love it, long time subscriber. My favorite sections are:

Month's Best Dog Kills
Raw Milk Assault
Smell My Finger
Gropin' Granny
Mossad Ayoob's How To Felate A Cop and Not Stain His Polyester Pants

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 15:04 | 5315365 NaN
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DHS Magazine? Is that because there is wide spread interest or that so many people work for them they can distribute internal fluff at the news stand?

Either way, the sickness is worse than I thought.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:59 | 5315322 NaN
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“You don’t need to manipulate Time magazine, for example, because there are Agency people at the management level.”

That is a very important doc to read.

Oversight is weaker now than during Ford and Carter, primarily because of Reagan eo-12333.

The inability of a democracy or even the executive branch to control its spy agencies might explain why there are so many of them.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 16:59 | 5310678 CH1
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Most of the comments on this web site are posted by the CIA.

Probably most of the Nazi comments are. Distraction is job number one.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 21:33 | 5312014 Duffy
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You don't have to like Nazis or bullshit statist, let alone racialist ideologies to dislike Israel.

On the other hand, to be a constant apologist for Israel's government requires what clearly amount to NAZI-like attitudes.

 

You would think you'd understand this by now.

 

www.lesvisible.net/DOCS/MastersOfDeception.pdf

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

http://zioncrimefactory.com/masters-of-deception/

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 00:26 | 5312662 COSMOS
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Hey CH1 you look like Nut-n-yahoo

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 23:42 | 5312556 remain calm
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I am under cover.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 00:39 | 5312696 g'kar
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I am under the influence

 

burp

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:28 | 5309802 ebworthen
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pods - Don't miss America's #1 show! "Black'ish"!  That and "Dancing With The Stars" will explain everything!

Looking at Ex-Im bank and GS worldwide activities I'd say Banks/M.I.C. sleep in the same bed.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:48 | 5309924 pods
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Yeah I have always thought they were two departments of the same corporation. 

Interesting way to think about it though, as any department will want to increase their influence.

pods

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:52 | 5309946 centerline
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It only works while the relationship is mutually beneficial.  Surely not a friendship.  No such thing considering what is at stake.  At the top, on both sides, they know the score.  At minimum the general potential.  The sort of stuff we are seeing has been researched, wargamed, etc. for decades and more.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:21 | 5310084 Chupacabra-322
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It's way about time JFK's goal of smashing this Pure Evil Psychopathic organization into a thousand pieces comes to fruition. Time to hunt down these Vermin one by one & deal with them via Extreme Predjudice. It would be "Fun & Games."

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:27 | 5310146 Keyser
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I encourage your spirit, but any one of us citizens going up against the alphanet soup agencies is akin to challenging a herd of psychotic elephants with a slingshot... You stand by your beliefs, right up until you become the gooey stuff between an elephants toes... 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 00:36 | 5312689 RafterManFMJ
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Best to live small and avoid the thrashing death throes of Leviathan.

Why fight to save a lethargic, cowed, vapid populace that would backstab you for a shiny bauble or a free bag of Cheese acorn?

Let them burn.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 23:34 | 5312534 tumblemore
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"I'd say Banks/M.I.C. sleep in the same bed."

 

I think they definitely *were* in the same bed - apart from anything else they would have teamed up during WWII and Cold War - and they might still be in the same bed  (particularly over middle-east / petrodollar policy) but there is a general conflict of interest now because the banking mafia are bringing down the American economy and the MIC needs that to survive whereas the banking mafia can just move to Hong Kong.

 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:44 | 5309898 centerline
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So, let's take it one step further.  Has the CIA/NSA gotten to ZH?  Ya know... gettin' a little too close for comfort?  Drawing a little too much attention - particularly from really good commenters (who are DOA/MIA)? 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:52 | 5309944 pods
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Follows the Van Goethe saying:

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."

There is always that thought that everyone is compromised, or as in this place, people self-censor due to that thought.

I think the NSA likes to remain in the shadows behind a big reputation.

CIA is about chaos and the petrodollar/reserve currency.

The truth? idk.

pods

 

 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:05 | 5310011 centerline
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Little glimpses here and there of the invisble hand have occurred over the last few years.  Those moments are really interesting. 

I don't buy into any ideas that there is some massive conspiracy to implement a NWO or such.  But, it does not mean that such aggendas do not exist and that there are not people trying to do so.  Rather, there are all sorts of different groups with different aggendas - Governments herein being considered "groups" - same for MIC, Deep State, IMF, etc.  All fighting against each other for some sort of dominance, power, wealth, etc.  The result is chaos.  Obama tipped his hat at this the other with the talk about how the world is spinning so fast.  I doubt those words where accidental.

Without a doubt, the shadow world has it's hands all in this mess.  There is way too much at stake.  The real problem here is resources relative to runaway population growth.  The icing on the cake is global financial systems that are predicated on perpetual growth (they just mirror human behavior). 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:22 | 5310119 Fish Gone Bad
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Mark Twain said, "Those who don't read the news are uninformed.  Those who read the news are misinformed."

Perhaps the best that one can do is to turn off the TV, eat right, get some exercise, and learn a few foreign languages.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:51 | 5310263 Keyser
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How deep does the rabbit hole go? We know who is pulling the strings and why... The question is how to change the timeline...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrUXPn7HCjM

 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 00:37 | 5312691 Ward no. 6
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right on...

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:24 | 5310129 Chupacabra-322
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@ pods,

"CIA is about chaos and the petrodollar/reserve currency."

Don't forget the Pure Evil Criminal Psychopaths bread & butter. Drug running & money Laudering through the tax payer bailed out TBTFBanksters to help fund destabilization campaigns around the Globe for raping, murdering & pillaging Soverign Countires of thier Natural Resouces & installing Puppets.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 22:25 | 5312263 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Read the definition of chaos bro.....

 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 20:02 | 5311587 Robert.Paulson
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Nietzsche said: "Free is, the one who can dance in chains."

I say: "There is no truth."

Greetings to the agencies. :P

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 01:45 | 5312808 Kirk2NCC1701
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Goethe also said... Which is the best government?  That which teaches us to govern ourselves. ("Welche Regierung die beste sei?  Diejenige, die uns lehrt, uns selbst zu regieren.")

- The Maxims and Reflections of Goethe as translated by Bailey Saunders (1893) Maxim 225

Yeah, well, good luck with that one in 'Merica, where the Government tells you how to live, how to die.  SERFDOM.  FEUDALISM 2.0.  It's what's on the Daily Menu, bitchez.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:12 | 5310065 11b40
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I had several comments relating to Mr Panetta on a thread Tuesday, then something happened I thought was very peculiar.  Below is my post right after it happened:

Tue, 10/07/2014 - 18:52 | 530108511b40
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LISTEN UP, FOLKS.

Something very strange just happened to me.  Shortly after posting on this thread and expressing my sentiments about Mr. Panetta, I got an invitation form someone I never heard of and who should have zero reason to want to join my network of associates on LinkedIn.  He is a Senior VP with THOR Global Defense Group.  Maybe he wants to sell me a sniper rifle.

https://www.linkedin.com/company/thor-global-defense-group

Maybe my paranoria is working overtime, but this just seems creepy to me.  Anyone else out there getting any strange contacts?

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:25 | 5310137 pods
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That's a bit creepy, if you are not in that niche.

I dont do linkedin, and do not even have any relationships here on ZH.  Not sure if that is paranoia or having too much going on IRL.

pods

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 22:26 | 5312271 Oh regional Indian
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I did too, from a retired 4 star USAF general!

Wild!

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:27 | 5310150 Fish Gone Bad
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That's a scream!  Perhaps its real, perhaps it is not.  I am still waiting for Publishers Clearing House to give me my money.

FGB

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 16:18 | 5310414 Lore
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Me too!  How long does it take?!

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:53 | 5310271 Keyser
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I had an odd linked-in invite yesterday myself, but mine was from a hot chick in Sweden looking for a sugar daddy... 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 16:04 | 5310325 durablefaith
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Yeah. Have had a few of those. Some are very new profiles hin on info as well. Intimidation is pretty effective in blogosphere when u know they know who you are; self censoring ensues.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 17:33 | 5310726 Paveway IV
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It's not a strange contact, just unsolicited advertising. THOR appears to be a small-time AK gun dealer run by Larry Knesek that enjoys scamming soldiers deployed to Afghanistan (among others). Probably has five employees, not counting the other Senior VP (the janitor at the shooting range).

https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/1aum95/warning_about_knesek_guns_...

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 18:19 | 5311141 11b40
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Maybe that's it.  I do have military group affiliations on my LinkedIn page.  Thanks.  The timing of it just kind of freaked me out.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 19:19 | 5311391 Paveway IV
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Just to clarify, I AM from the NSA and we ARE watching you. You are right to be a little paranoid.

In fact, you have quite an interesting file here. You were late on your gas bill twice in the last couple of years and I see you bought the extended warranty on your washing machine. Are you some kind of a terrorist?

Plese make things easy on yourself and report directly to the BLUE line at your local FEMA rendition center when martial law is declared. Thank you in advance for your compliance.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:51 | 5309939 yield_curver
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The CIA was constructed by Wall St. ballers years ago. Anyone who reads the subject matter should know that the CIA had control and kept control of the CIA: "Allen Dulles was tasked in 1946 to “draft proposals for the shape and organization of what was to become the Central Intelligence Agency,”

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:57 | 5310288 Keyser
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http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/on-this-date/dec-22-1963-truman-calls-...

 

“For some time I have been disturbed by the way the CIA has been diverted from its original assignment,” wrote former President Harry Truman on the one-month anniversary of President Kennedy’s assassination

“It has become an operational and at times a policy-making arm of the Government. This has led to trouble and may have compounded our difficulties in several explosive areas.”

Same shit, different day...

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:48 | 5310241 sleigher
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I think there probably is truth in the warring factions theory.  Not sure about MIC vs Banks though.  I mean there has to be some good guys in there somewhere trying to stop this shit.  Right?  No seriously, there must be a few somewhere in government/banking/MIC.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:55 | 5310277 centerline
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From a bigger picture perspective, can anyone really stop what is coming?  I think this is more about who gets to pick the winners and losers - this time on a global scale.  Full spectrum dominance = checkmate moves. 

Like I said before, what is happening has been wargamed over and over.  By all sorts of groups. 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 20:57 | 5311833 TruthInSunshine
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sleigher - read 'War Is A Racket' which was written by USMC General Smedly Butler - if you haven't.

Or at least just research what he was recruited to do down in Honduras
for American Corporations, and also about what Wall Street tried to recruit him to do (overthrow of U.S. Government).

You'll find Prescott Bush and some other familiar names in the mix.

It's fact, not conspiracy.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 23:55 | 5312591 Amerikan Patriot
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RT can't print a negative story about Russia or Vlad, but you give RT full credit anyway with nary a question about the veracity of the story.

Why?  Is it because you're a silly goose?

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 23:58 | 5312599 Amerikan Patriot
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And you, like the sucker you are, believe the story...even though RT is so biased it's constitutionally incapable of printing so much as a single anti-Putin story.

Tsk-tsk....

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:21 | 5309758 SilverIsKing
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I'm trying to piece this together.  So he's saying that the CIA controls the press?  No mention of the press on the CIA website and vice versa.  Very clandestine indeed.

http://www.ciachef.edu/

http://www.chefspress.com/

 

 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:57 | 5309968 Urban Redneck
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No one controls the CIA. That is the brilliance and endurance of its design, and why efforts to reform it or reign it in are always doomed failure.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 16:15 | 5310396 TruthHunter
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 Why leave out

entrapment and blackmail?

It works best on those with compunctions.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 17:25 | 5310852 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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MASTER OF UNIVERSE CONTROLS GOLDMAN SACHS & THE CIA, suckers!

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 01:35 | 5312789 Kirk2NCC1701
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@X.inf.capt: "goldman sachs rules the world... including the CIA..."

This begs the question: Who rules GS?  Who are the majority shareholders -- open or hidden?

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:09 | 5309676 SMG
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You know the hardest thing about being awake is,  this story is true, it's out there,  but in the end most don't care.   Even if you point people right at it.   People shut down and just shrug their shoulders.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:15 | 5309713 saints51
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I think all on ZH care or we wouldn't be here. Sometimes I ask myself why should I care? I really try and do my part in changing our world for the better. Yet we are persecuted by our own brothers and sisters. After a while you start asking yourself the other question- Why try?

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:17 | 5309720 Anusocracy
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Does a worker ant worry about getting the short end of the stick in an ant colony? They are incapable of understanding.

Same with humants.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:38 | 5310185 Fish Gone Bad
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As scary as the well connected are, I am usually more concerned about misdirected do-gooders doing someone else's bidding.  Ever drive by a planned parenthood clinic and see all the picketers?  Those people look like single minded zombies.  That's messed up, and scary. 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 21:26 | 5311984 TruthInSunshine
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SMG wrote -

"You know the hardest thing about being awake is,  this story is true, it's out there,  but in the end most don't care.   Even if you point people right at it.   People shut down and just shrug their shoulders."

It goes back to learned helplessness. Look to B.F. Skinner's experiments & research on Operant Conditioning & Learned Helplessness studies by Martin Seligman and S.F. Meir.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 16:00 | 5310307 ArmchairRevolut...
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Yes. Sometimes I think I should start aligning myself with the elites. Most people fight any information that challenges their view of the world; even if that view has no basis in reality and actually hurts them. Why should I concern myself if most people are just this way?

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 20:53 | 5311816 TheReplacement
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If you do not try then you choose to go along which is tantamount to overtly supporting the tyrants in their persecutions of your own brothers and sisters.  Moral fiber and all that.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:19 | 5309730 HamRove
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I have pointed numerous people right at the source of the problem. For one I get called a conspiracy theorist, and then I get told to get a life, then I get asked why do I pay attention to things I can't control?......

It really is infuriating These days, I don't even bother. 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:22 | 5309768 saints51
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Yep that is the main comment towards me when I try and show someone they have been duped - You can not control or do anything about it. Well thats true in a way but if everybody banded together and said enough is enough, Then the game changes. That old saying,"can't teach an old dog new tricks" is very true in this world. People just want to live in a bubble. Once bad things happen to them then they finally say why me. By that time the damage is done and its game over. It could of possibly been prevented if you would of paid attention to your surroundings.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:50 | 5309932 Decolat
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<--Find compassion for the ignorant, for they truly know not what they do. 

<--Fuck em

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 06:47 | 5313116 mkkby
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Saying fuck em isn't really enough.  When there's trouble, or they just don't like you,  they'll be the narcs and spies for dot gov.  Sadly someday many of them will have to be targets.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:35 | 5310176 SofaPapa
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Yep that is the main comment towards me when I try and show someone they have been duped - You can not control or do anything about it. Well thats true in a way but if everybody banded together and said enough is enough, Then the game changes.

There are two distinct moments in the history of fire.  The first is the work to build it.  We have to lay the tinder, the kindling, the logs, etc.  Only after that does the second part come: lighting the match and making the fire burn.  As anyone who has made fires knows (campfire or fireplace, the concept works in both), if the fire isn't constructed well, it's not going to catch.

So when you tell people and they give you this response, you are laying the fire.  I have had a lot of these conversations recently, and while people are not "lit" yet, they are hearing what I am saying.  In other words, the fuel is being constructed.  Keep at it.  The building is the hardest, and absolutely most important part.  The match will come, and with all the fuel on this one?  It's gonna be a doozy.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 16:21 | 5310424 saints51
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I won't give up although I sure feel like saying the hell with all of you lately. Good advice +1

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 19:19 | 5316610 layman_please
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great analogy! i thank you for this. it actually puts things in perspective, like why have i failed in getting through to people i actually care about. propaganda and conditioning has been so systematic, that it's foolish to expect to change that with anything even slightly less elaborate. it will be hard work and patience which will rebuild the reality in the minds of the people.

 

 

you have done your best, when you don't even have to light the match but a random spark will be enough to ignite the fuel.

 

 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 20:58 | 5311834 TheReplacement
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You, ahem, we need to start calling a duck a duck when it comes to people like that. 

Shrugger, "Ah what can ya do about it?"

Us, "You can stop being a coward."

Kick 'em in the verbal nuts if they are that worthless.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:53 | 5310270 sleigher
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" then I get asked why do I pay attention to things I can't control?"

That is the worst of all.  It is the people who are mentioned in the 10th amendment.  I politely remind them of that and they could control it if they weren't fucking stupid.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 01:52 | 5312814 Kirk2NCC1701
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It was EXACTLY like this in pre-war Nazi Germany:  It's not that Good People kept silent, but that not enough good people spoke out.  Evil fanatics eventually outnumbered and swarmed the good, sensible, rational and decent people.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 06:50 | 5313120 mkkby
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Captain, you are in denial.  Those so called good people will be collaborators, narcs and spies for the evil doers.  Many will even make false accusations against people they just don't like, or are jealous of.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 03:25 | 5312912 StychoKiller
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Best thing to do is ask the Ignorati questions that force them to do some research on their own; examples:  "What is Money? ", "Ever hear of the Mandrake Mechanism?", "Who owns the Federal Reserve?", etc.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 07:12 | 5313164 Alvin Fernald
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Here is something I was pointed to when I vocalized similar thoughts. I don't endorse the religious aspects of this article but it's worth reading.

http://mises.org/daily/2892

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:49 | 5309928 matinee55
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yas rwite, i's gots me obammy fone ands stamps sos werk hards biach

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:57 | 5309969 Shizzmoney
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Humans have to feel pain on a mass scale before they care.  That's how short sighted they are.

In the end, humans are like any other organism on Earth: when it comes down to it, they are out for numero uno.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:19 | 5310103 Anusocracy
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Mother Nature has invested a million or so years in training H, sapiens to whack their neighbors and to protect their own offspring and tribe.

Ingroup-outgroup morality.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 06:16 | 5313067 JB
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"mother nature" is a cop out, and an abdication of personal responsibility.

 

darwinian evolution is a most heinous lie, and the foundation for eugenics, communism, marxism, nazi fascism, and all number of other evil 'isms.'.

 

we are created in the image of God.  that image can be defaced, but that image can NEVER be erased.

 

if you want to know what is wrong with this country, and the world, it is that we have denied our Maker.

when the satanic Darwinian view is espoused, then there is NO RULE  OF LAW, there is only the rule of the jungle.

 

until we, as a People, return to our Creator, there will be nothing but endless strife and tyranny.

only in Christ can we be free. as long as we are married to sin and death, we will be nothing more than slaves.

 

choose God and be free. reject Him, and be damned slaves.

 

now downvote me.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 16:54 | 5310640 Advoc8tr
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They are our true enemy.  Bad guys are just doing what bad guys do and could be stopped easily by an engaged and informed majority.  Within the democratic environments we live these apathetic masses are the ones to blame for ensuring peaceful change is made impossible and thus the last resort of violent rebellion becomes inevitable.

It is indeed the hardest thing to accept .... especially when you start contemplating viable long-term solutions.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 01:52 | 5312815 WhyWait
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That the great mass of people out there don't care is a fear-induced illusion.

And it's many a step from knowing you're in a hall of mirrors to being able to see beyond it or know which way to go.

Patience.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 23:57 | 5312597 Amerikan Patriot
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And you, like the sucker you are, believe the story...even though RT is so biased it's constitutionally incapable of printing so much as a single anti-Putin story.

Tsk-tsk....

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:16 | 5309710 booboo
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Busty sluts reading scripts written by spooks locked in closets masturbating to photo's of busty sluts reading scripts..............................

Its a vicious circle jerk wappped in a condom and shrouded in a fist.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:25 | 5309780 saints51
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lol. I am still trying imagine your comment. Outcome not so good.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:45 | 5310227 centerline
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I stopped at busty sluts.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 16:02 | 5310319 IndyPat
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I stopped at "oh" face...

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:32 | 5309837 ebworthen
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No Children of Liberty in that equation, eh?

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 20:12 | 5311623 Sokhmate
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That's what i call girdles fapped-to in a slippery poolside of smegma

(read to rhyme with 'riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma')

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:23 | 5309770 Canadian Dirtlump
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Poor Udo. What is the over under that he'll be found with 4 long range gunshots wounds in front of a computer playing child porn in a "suicide?"

 

 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:39 | 5309860 pot_and_kettle
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21 ( days ) would be the maximum time before being infected with ebola and showing symptoms, right?

I'll throw 28 days out there.

And I've got the under.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:56 | 5309966 Canadian Dirtlump
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Dear Vorld,

 

Dis Is UDO. I am so Ashamed about zee durty picktyas I vas looking at on my kompewtah. I could no longa go on. I purposely got ebola und shat myself to death.

 

So long kruel wold.

 

Udo

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:18 | 5310101 bbq on whitehou...
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Im waiting to see if that little girl gets it, if not i wouldn't worry to much about ebola.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:45 | 5309903 Berspankme
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Been reading "Legacy of Ashes" book about CIA. This organization besides being thoroughly corrupt has also been incompetent since inception. The book could easily describe the keystone cops if not for how dangerous they are.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:15 | 5310075 bbq on whitehou...
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Haven't read the book but i can tell you that if your heart is not into something you tend to do a halfass job at it. Thinkers need not apply.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:57 | 5310293 holgerdanske
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USA the biggest, best funded, best staffed most deadly terrorist organisation in the world.

 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 16:28 | 5310463 Cymore Duttz
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This was done by bismark back in the 1880 -1900. The news headlines could be controlled for less than a months salary.  Chump change.

 

 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 16:29 | 5310474 Cymore Duttz
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This was done by bismark back in the 1880 -1900. The news headlines could be controlled for less than a months salary.  Chump change. All the major papers of the day were on the take from someone.  

 

 

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