MH-17 Report False Flag Exposed After Revelation Passenger Was Wearing Oxygen Mask

Tyler Durden's picture

When exactly a month ago the supposedly objective, impartial Netherlands released its official, 34-page preliminary report of the MH-17 crash over Ukraine, presumably based on black box data, air traffic control records, and other "authentic, verified" information, there were precisely zero mentions of "oxygen", "mask" or "oxygen mask."

Which is odd, because in what should become the biggest Freudian slip scandal in false-flag history, certainly since the Gulf of Tonkin, yesterday Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans accidentally revealed for the very first time ever, that one of the Australian passengers aboard the doomed airplane "appears to have donned an oxygen mask before the fatal crash, suggesting some on board might have been aware of their impending deaths, a Dutch official disclosed." Clearly a crucial aspect of the crash, as it points at the severity of the alleged explosion, yet one which was not noted until yesterday and which completely skipped the purvey of the official crash report for reasons unknown.

Needless to say, this makes a complete mockery of the story that the plane had exploded upon impact with the "Russian" missile, and is why there was supposedly no trace of any impact on the flight's black box recorder. Whether or not it also means that the alternative theory that a Ukraine jet had purposefully downed the Malaysian aircraft to serve as a pretext to implicate Russia, is unclear. But it also means that yet another conspiracy theory becomes fact: namely that whoever were the western powers who doctored and manipulated the "official" crash report of MH-17 to implicate Putin, not only lied but fabricated evidence.

Immediately upon realization just how serious the implications of this slip are, the damage control started, but it was too late. From the LA Times:

Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans apologized on Thursday for making the revelation on a television talk show the previous night, before the families of the 298 victims of the disaster had been notified of the disturbing discovery.


Timmermans gave an emotional speech at the United Nations four days after the crash in which he imagined the terrified passengers exchanging glances "one final time, in an unarticulated goodbye."


When talk show host Jeroen Pauw interviewed Timmermans on Wednesday night, he provoked the minister with accusations that he had dramatized the victims' last moments as a preliminary investigation report suggests that the Boeing 777's destruction was so swift that those on board were unlikely to have known anything was amiss.


"They did not see the rocket coming, but you know someone was found with an oxygen mask on his mouth?” Timmermans replied, according to the NL Times translation of his comments.  "He thus had the time to do that. We cannot rule it out."

Well, actually we did not know because the official report that your country released Mr. Timmermans, and which we posted a month ago said that "high-energy objects from outside the aircraft" struck the airplane as it flew at an altitude of 33,000 feet, suggesting it had been struck by a missile.

Nothing on the flight data or cockpit voice recorders indicated the crew or passengers took any action in response to the fatal impact.

Which means the entire report is a fabrication.

So what did happen?

The mask found around the neck of the unnamed passenger, one of 88 Australian citizens and residents on board, was tested for fingerprints, saliva and DNA but produced no forensic evidence, De Bruin said. "So it is not known how or when that mask got around the neck of the victim," he said.


The discovery of the mask and the implications it raised about the passengers' final moments were conveyed to the Australian's family before Timmermans' interview on Wednesday night, the prosecutor's office said. But information was sent out to other family members of the MH-17 victims only on Thursday morning.

Timmermans issued a statement Thursday saying he regretted making the comment. We are confident that everyone else in the false-flag waving Western camp very much regretted Timmermans' comment as well.

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COSMOS's picture

I would like to see what was on some of the cell phones.  And dont tell me some didnt call or text something home.  Bet you the western intelligence agencies have that stuff.  Text like '...why is that jet firing at us'

AlaricBalth's picture

Kiev Control: "Malaysia 17 this is Kiev control. Please change your heading by 18 degrees N to heading 85 E for 20 miles. Then turn SE by 30 degrees and maintain heading of ESE 115 degrees. Please acknowledge."

Flight 17 Pilot: "What??? Are you crazy? That puts us right over disputed territory. No way, Jose'!!!"

Kiev Control: "Malaysia 17. Do you see two Ukrainian SU-25's at your wingtips?"

Flight 17 Pilot: "Yes Kiev"

Kiev Control: "Then execute flight maneuver now!!!"

Flight 17 Pilot: "Roger that Kiev. Oh crap....." 

Malaysia 17 flight paths. July 16 and 17. quite a difference:

ZerOhead's picture

I just wanted to hear what was on the cockpit voice recorder.

I smell a rat-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-tat!

Latina Lover's picture

Too bad we couldn't hear the actual black box recordings, or the conversations between air traffic control in Kiev and Dnepropetrovsk? In fact, what happened to the air traffic controller 'Carlos' anyways? Why did he mysteriously disappear, never to be heard from again?

jaap's picture

The combination of a man wearing a mask around his neck and the BUK-theory is sheer impossible. Both are official Dutch government statements (although the BUK didn't make it to the "report").

TruthInSunshine's picture

Just because I can't keep the governments' and media lies straight, the Malaysian flight that vanished into thin air is still missing, correct?

This is a serious question, sadly, because it really does seem as if the wheels may be coming off of many plots, subplots, agendas, sub-agendas, schemes, tricks, and other massive, state sponsored frauds (from MENA to LIBOR to
LME to Ukraine/Nuland-Kagan to Syria/ISIS/IS/ISIL to [go ahead and insert one or more of dozens of plots or storylines of late here])....

bbq on whitehouse lawn's picture

Small steps Sunshine, small steps. This is something that the Tylers can work with... data and spread sheets.
How long does it take for a mask to drop, how long does it take apply it.
Yes, the math will discover who, what, where, when and why. Just give it sometime. Remember just because you work for a paycheck doesn't mean you will die for it.
Small steps. TPTB can't win the math ethics and math is against them...mostly.
Small steps," listen for the grasshopper at your feet." - old blind man

Troll Magnet's picture

Nothing about this on the Faggington Post.  War must go on.

BuddyEffed's picture

Don't the masks automatically drop from their panels on decompression?  

Since they were at high altitude, the smart thing to do would have been to put it on, like the stewardess instuct before each flight.

And besides, the churn and mangle at impact could have put anything anywhere.

Anusocracy's picture

These investigators are owned.

That would make this revelation a misdirection.

old naughty's picture

"suggesting some on board might have been aware of their impending deaths... " 

ONE (not some).. It's the lone gunman perhaps?

Theatrically comical.

fockewulf190's picture

They do. He must have been sitting in the largest portion of the plane that stayed intact unil impact. The wind blast normally would have ripped such a mask easily away from a persons head, but he may have been pinned by g-forces and/or debris, and the mask may just have slipped down around his neck. Either he put it on right away after decompression, or it was put on him after he was found at the crash site. The crash site was never secured.

Berspankme's picture

Faggington Post is focused on supreme courtruling that you can marry your dog

Son of Loki's picture

"Mr Simmermen was found early Friday morning by his secretary slumped over his desk with five shitgum holes to his head in what authorities have labeled a suicide."


fuu's picture

Tyler Durden: Oxygen gets you high. In a catastrophic emergency, you're taking giant panicked breaths. Suddenly you become euphoric, docile. You accept your fate. It's all right here. Emergency water landing - 600 miles an hour. Blank faces, calm as Hindu cows.


I seem to recall the bodies laying around for days in fields. Didn't the Dutch complain about the state of decomp? I doubt there is any serious chain of evidence on the bodies. If there was a mask around a neck it could have been placed there after the fact.

*Not a forensic expert, I just power watched 20 seasons of Law & Order.

nmewn's picture

Thats the first thing I thought of.

Its not like EMT's came screaming up (sirens blaring) along with disinterested cops with cases of crime scene tape to keep people from trampling over evidence.

Best I can remember the crash scene was controlled by Russian militia...errr, ahhh,, freedom fighters!

Well renowned for their forensic skill-set ;-)


Somebody says I'm wrong.

The scene was not controlled by Russia's "allies"...for days?

ThankYouSatan's picture

Shit, we don't even know if the "scene" is real. Ever been Ukraine? It probably doesn't exist...

ross81's picture

right.....cos the best way to draw international sympathy to your cause is to shoot down a civilian airliner.

nmewn's picture

You speaking of the Ukrainian or the Russian "cause"? ;-)

You seem to have made up your mind, so have I. The Russians didn't have aircraft (or weren't supposed to have) aircraft over the Ukraine. So which side had incentive fire a ground to air missle?

If you're saying a Ukrainian pilot tailed the plane across the country and shot it down where he did, where is the pilot of that combat aircraft? Murdered when he landed? No pilot deaths that day.

I've always said it was an accidental shoot down, no premeditation, done by Russians.

It took eleven years for them to admit to shooting down KAL007, so we have time to

actionjacksonbrownie's picture

There was no ground-to-air missile. There would have been many videos of the smoke trail which would hang in the air for quite some time after the plane had hit the ground.


No smoke trail - no missile.

nmewn's picture

Which is why we have "many videos" of the flaming wreckage of Flight 17 raining down from the sky.

Thats an epic fail dude, by your own standards ;-) 


And...before we divert any further, the "scene" around which an oxygen mask was found on the face of someone who just dropped from tens of thousands of feet...was controlled by Russian "freedom fighters" wasn't it?

ThirdWorldDude's picture

Uh-huh, it sure was, and those bloody Russian "freedom fighters" still refuse to release the audio recordings.


nmewn's picture

Is it common practice for those who support Russia to avoid admitting that it was Russian separatists (freedom who controlled the crash site (in fact, they still do)?

And there are no videos of missles going up or videos of the plane falling down after proffering THAT as proof that it wasn't a ground to air missle because there is no video? There is no video of the plane crashing down either, so obviously there was no plane crash?

Its like talking to fucking third graders.

ThirdWorldDude's picture

Nice attempt to maneuver through my previous question... There's a problem, though, since I have an old-fashioned attention span that exceeds 10 minutes.

But let's begin with addressing your points: there are a lot of ways to prove in which way MH17 was taken down, and those ways have nothing to do with a posteriori "evidence planting", as nmewn suggests. You have satellite images, black box, audio recordings from Ukie flight control... Besides, pro-russian separatists have handed over ALL physical evidence to international investigators which means you would've heard of some real loud bitchin' had The Empire not been given what it asked for.

Your strawman is a bit too dry, I would say. Consult your handlers and try, try again!

nmewn's picture

Its like some weird out-of-body experience with you guys.

"Nice attempt to maneuver through my previous question... There's a problem, though, since I have an old-fashioned attention span that exceeds 10 minutes."

Actually, you're wrong on both counts.

You didn't ask a question, you made a statement which I'll copy & paste for you here..."Uh-huh, it sure was, and those bloody Russian "freedom fighters" still refuse to release the audio recordings."...I'd have that Attention Deficit Disorder checked out if I were you.

"Besides, pro-russian separatists have handed over ALL physical evidence to international investigators..."

You don't say?

Then why is the plane still scattered across fields of the Ukraine and pieces of it being used by "Russian freedom fighters" for roadblocks & checkpoints? Thats evidence isn't it?!?!

And I'm completely freelancing here dude, you however, seem to have a particular bone to pick. So, I'm gonna throw it back to you.

Who are YOUR handlers hoss?

PhilofOz's picture

Well it seems that you have decided there was a missile and you don't need any proof of it.

cheech_wizard's picture

This is the stuff I love to research...

On most pressurized aircraft, if cabin pressure is lost when the cabin altitude is above 14,000 feet, compartments containing the oxygen masks will open automatically, either above or in front of the passenger... (wikipedia) But I always second source...

Pay particular attention to the EPT and TUC numbers at 30K to 35K feet... If he had time to put an oxygen mask on, the cabin did not depressurize immediately...

excuse me now, but the neighbors sound like they are getting ready for deer season...

BraveSirRobin's picture

"Pay particular attention to the EPT and TUC numbers at 30K to 35K feet... If he had time to put an oxygen mask on, the cabin did not depressurize immediately..."

Wrong, they have pleanty of time - the time it takes foe the aircraft to hit the ground.

Dakota Kid's picture

BraveSirRobin:"they have pleanty of time - the time it takes foe the aircraft to hit the ground."

It's not the amount of time it takes to hit the ground, it's the altitude when cabin pressure is lost that determines Time of Useful Consciousness (TUC). At 35,000 ft, the Effective Performance Time (EPT) and TUC are the same. You have only 30-60 seconds, not much time to figure out what has happened and to react to it.


BraveSirRobin's picture

It actually quite a long time. Sit there for 30 seconds, or see how far you can walk in that time, etc. Also, the aircraft does not stay at 33,000 feet, put starts to descend rapidly. also, those statistics are a rule of thumb. Many people can operate and function at higher altitude. For example, 5% of those who have summited Mount Everst have done so without supplemental O2. More can probably do so, but choose supplemental O2 for safety and help ensure they make it to the top. And these guys are not sitting there doing nothing, but walking with heavy gear.

You also understate TUC. First, the aircraft was at 33,000 feet, and TUC at that altitude is more like 1 to 2 minutes. But again, the aircraft is rapidly descending, say at 5,000 feet per minute or more, so TUC increases rapidly with loss of altitude. At 30,000 feet, TUC is 1 to 3 minutes. At 28,000 it's 2.5 to 3 minutes, and increases rapidly from there.

Also, once O2 reaches a certain level, people who have blacked out from lack of O2 wake back up and rapidly regain full functionality. Please note this video:

See how quickly the test subjects recover when given O2. You will see a couple of tests with drop down face masks. In one, the mask had no O2 flow. In another, the mask was overly complex, and the test subject could not don it in time. These test were done under rapid decompression conditions, and at altitude conditions higher than typical for a cruising airliner. 

Again, as noted, 5% can do well at 30,000 feet even under physical labor. I also hold these TUC figures as suspect and overly dire. For example, TUC at 18,000 is stated at 20 - 30 minutes, however, most people can go days or weeks at that altitude. Some suffer altituude sickness, and physical condition does matter.

In fact, the TUC is a safty mark used for emergency proceedure planning and engineering. The limits are set on the low side to create a safety factor for the average person.

The point of all this is that most people would not have lost consciousness in the airplane. They would be wide awake and alert all the way down. If some did black out form the initial decompression, they would wake up again before they met their ultimate fate.

acetinker's picture

bbq, I know niether of yours or TIS's tenure here, and it don't matter anyway... but I'm kinda thinkin' TIS may be leaps and bounds ahead of you in many areas.  For you to advise 'baby steps' to one who can likely step right over you is well, condescending.

Take your own advice, and listen to the grasshopper at your feet- or in your mouth as this hapless fucker learned;

boattrash's picture

Oxygen mask? Likely some poor dude w/Sleep Apnea, wearing his CPAP machine. (semi-sarc)

nmewn's picture

Oh its legit alright.

The mask had Property of Malaysian Airlines clearly visible on it.

(Written in Russian, with a Sharpie pen ;-)

RichardParker's picture


If I walk outside just about anywhere, I'm pretty sure there's a spy satellite passing overhead at least once an hour that has the resolution capability to see me scratch my ass.

MH340 didn't vanish into thin air.  "They" know exactly where it is.  They just don't want it to be "found".


lockdown's picture

Look, if we're going to try trading facts, let's get the facts we want to trade straight before we try trading 'em.

The airline company in question is Malaysia Airlines, not Malaysian Airlines.

Any generic airline company that happens to be from Malaysia is a Malaysian airline, but if you're instead referring to the one this story is about, then keep to the facts: it's called Malaysia Airlines.

I expect this kind of distinction to be lost on the fucking shit-for-brains mass media and the cable news-believing public, but we here on Zero Hedge are sharper than they are, aren't we?

ebworthen's picture

Any other tragedy like this and we would have heard the cockpit voice recordings within 3 weeks on the nightly news.

The silence is deafening.

Iwanttoknow's picture

Carlos lives next door to Mordechi Vanunu.

TheReplacement's picture

Carlos moved to Australia and, tragically, died of strangulation during an in flight oxygen mask incident.

Stackers's picture

Actually most large radar guided SAM missiles dont physically hit their intended target. They explode 10-20 yards away and spray a bunch of shrapnel with a shaped charge towards the plane.

aVileRat's picture

Was just about to post this.

Contrary to Michael Bay movies, the plane does not instantly explode in a ball of fire. Usually in the event of decompression or massive altitude loss the masks auto-deploy and as per the pre-flight demo, people are conditioned to don them.

Was honestly shocked this was not thrown up (sic) on RT first. But whatever.


Aircraft was flying along on a new course

Buk-tube flew towards them, likely hit the tail or a wing (since the cockpit and most of the mainbody was found intact)

Loss of tail means go directly to freefall & tailspin

Cross-stress caused airframe to break apart

Shrapnel likely killed most of the passengers, the negative-g's caused by the massive drop a few thousand feet would have caused the rest & pilots to black out

Anywhere between hearing the DAR static hiss of the tube/impact event the pilot could have manually pulled the O2 switch. Failing that, the plane did it for him after it went from 45 to 15 in 5 min.

So between the second of impact, and the 10 min. it required to reconnect with the earth, it is possible people, even in a half-lucid state pulled the o2 mask onto their face before impact as they were trained by the 21 year old mincome employee to do. Lack of DNA implies it was pulled on, with no time to actually puff up the bags.

TLDR: There are plenty of fishy shit in the world. This is just Alex Jones level bullshit. Feel free to refute if qualified, IHS has Janes' online if you really want to make a duststorm out of this shit.



Winston Churchill's picture

You miss the whole point.

There are obviously TWO reports on the incident.How else could that Dutch minister know this ?

The fact the second one remains hidden , makes your theory highly unlikely.

So what is in the scecond report ?

Wolferl's picture

There´s a just preliminary report out, not more. And of course government/cabinet members get some information early. What is so unusual here?


That leaked info about a person with a mask is no proof or evidence for anything. Fact is we still don´t know what happened. 

Winston Churchill's picture

Doesn't work that way in any Govt. I've done work for.

They get to read the report before its released, so they can approve/edit it.

They ALWAYS want it in writing.

In which case the oxygen mask reference was removed on purpose.

You can't have it both ways.

Wolferl's picture

Cabinet members/high ranking officials get much more information on all kinds of topic than what is written in public reports. And they get it much earlier than the public. If you don´t know that you never worked for a government other than cleaning the streets or delivering the mail.