MH-17 Report False Flag Exposed After Revelation Passenger Was Wearing Oxygen Mask

Tyler Durden's picture

When exactly a month ago the supposedly objective, impartial Netherlands released its official, 34-page preliminary report of the MH-17 crash over Ukraine, presumably based on black box data, air traffic control records, and other "authentic, verified" information, there were precisely zero mentions of "oxygen", "mask" or "oxygen mask."

Which is odd, because in what should become the biggest Freudian slip scandal in false-flag history, certainly since the Gulf of Tonkin, yesterday Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans accidentally revealed for the very first time ever, that one of the Australian passengers aboard the doomed airplane "appears to have donned an oxygen mask before the fatal crash, suggesting some on board might have been aware of their impending deaths, a Dutch official disclosed." Clearly a crucial aspect of the crash, as it points at the severity of the alleged explosion, yet one which was not noted until yesterday and which completely skipped the purvey of the official crash report for reasons unknown.

Needless to say, this makes a complete mockery of the story that the plane had exploded upon impact with the "Russian" missile, and is why there was supposedly no trace of any impact on the flight's black box recorder. Whether or not it also means that the alternative theory that a Ukraine jet had purposefully downed the Malaysian aircraft to serve as a pretext to implicate Russia, is unclear. But it also means that yet another conspiracy theory becomes fact: namely that whoever were the western powers who doctored and manipulated the "official" crash report of MH-17 to implicate Putin, not only lied but fabricated evidence.

Immediately upon realization just how serious the implications of this slip are, the damage control started, but it was too late. From the LA Times:

Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans apologized on Thursday for making the revelation on a television talk show the previous night, before the families of the 298 victims of the disaster had been notified of the disturbing discovery.

 

Timmermans gave an emotional speech at the United Nations four days after the crash in which he imagined the terrified passengers exchanging glances "one final time, in an unarticulated goodbye."

 

When talk show host Jeroen Pauw interviewed Timmermans on Wednesday night, he provoked the minister with accusations that he had dramatized the victims' last moments as a preliminary investigation report suggests that the Boeing 777's destruction was so swift that those on board were unlikely to have known anything was amiss.

 

"They did not see the rocket coming, but you know someone was found with an oxygen mask on his mouth?” Timmermans replied, according to the NL Times translation of his comments.  "He thus had the time to do that. We cannot rule it out."

Well, actually we did not know because the official report that your country released Mr. Timmermans, and which we posted a month ago said that "high-energy objects from outside the aircraft" struck the airplane as it flew at an altitude of 33,000 feet, suggesting it had been struck by a missile.

Nothing on the flight data or cockpit voice recorders indicated the crew or passengers took any action in response to the fatal impact.

Which means the entire report is a fabrication.

So what did happen?

The mask found around the neck of the unnamed passenger, one of 88 Australian citizens and residents on board, was tested for fingerprints, saliva and DNA but produced no forensic evidence, De Bruin said. "So it is not known how or when that mask got around the neck of the victim," he said.

 

The discovery of the mask and the implications it raised about the passengers' final moments were conveyed to the Australian's family before Timmermans' interview on Wednesday night, the prosecutor's office said. But information was sent out to other family members of the MH-17 victims only on Thursday morning.

Timmermans issued a statement Thursday saying he regretted making the comment. We are confident that everyone else in the false-flag waving Western camp very much regretted Timmermans' comment as well.

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bbq on whitehouse lawn's picture

Most will accept a lie, rather then admit they are evil and must be tried for a crime.
This all takes time. Get someone to admit they are guilty, rather then proving it.
No one is getting off this planet alive, there is no where that the guilty can run that solders can not find them. i know a US Ranger who can find most anyone, and a US Seal that can get to them.
Know that time is on your side not the guilty.

Milestones's picture

Just a few questions 800. 1) you mention at the top about 30mm holes in MH-17 ---O.K. 2) later you mention a P-51 (which was a stand-alone fighter plane  plane from WWII was using 50 Cal. guns) Why would a 1940's plane be using much higher velocity and killing power bullets than a fighter that would be at least 50 years newer and much faster than the prop driven P-51? Mistake or just another coiil of the the story unwinding. 

Shit to shinola we got what comes out of the north end of a south bound bull.

Small mistake?? Lots of that going around lately.                 Milestones

chunga's picture

Why is the guy apologizing for saying this then? Strange.

SAT 800's picture

Psychology? he was weeping in  the UN. Maybe he has a neurotic need to get his face in front of t he camera and sound important; it's practically epidemic, now, anyway. He seems to have a lot of difficulty with logical thinking; maybe driven by a narcisstic/messianic neurosis. "Look at me everyone while I emote and beat my breast"; etc. etc.

scam_MERS's picture

@Bell's 2 hearted, Agree with you completely. This new "finding" proves absolutely nothing at all. A "BUK" missile doesn't hit the plane directly, it explodes near the object and shrapnel is what does the damage. This story is sensationalism and nothing more. The plane wan't blown into little bits from the shrapnel, so of course there would be time to put on a mask if you weren't totally panicked.

Flagit's picture

 

This new "finding" proves absolutely nothing at all.

 

Wrong. It proves the down arrow fuction is working perfectly.

Das Capitalist's picture

Whoa whoa whoa, easy dude! Just return to the ZH circlejerk and all will be okay. ZHers don't take kindly to dissenting opinion. Because we are the dissenting opinion! If you disagree with us, you're mainstream. And thus part of the Zionist Federal Reserve Puppet Conspiracy. Read a book, dude!

chump666's picture

Plane comes apart in minutes, explosive decompression within seconds. Someone (one person!) tried to put on the mask.  Or the g-force caused that mask to wrap around his neck. Either way it was shot out of the sky.

"The passenger did not have the mask on his face, but its elastic strap was around his neck, said Wim de Bruin, a spokesman for the Dutch National Prosecutor's Office which is carrying out a criminal investigation into the air disaster"

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/australian-passenger-on-mh17-was-wearing-oxygen-mask-dutch-prosecutors-20141009-113yjj.html#ixzz3Fgvcz2wQ
paul steinert's picture

"Which means the entire report is one massive fabrication."

This is the kind of hyperbole and sensationalism that gives ZH its wing-nut reputation.

It's better to conclude that if the report contains one fabrication, it certainly may contain many more, for political purposes.  And leave it there.  We're smart enough to connect the dots ourselves.

Bell's 2 hearted's picture

when flight 800 went down (fuel air explosion) ... it came out (eventually) that plane continued to fly for a few miles without nose ... and altitude under 20,000 ... so passengers not knocked out ... do you really want families of victims to know that?

oddjob's picture

We can all feel safe with you and Goebbels deciding which information is beneficial for the public.

Bell's 2 hearted's picture

haha

 

i'll let you in on something

 

sometimes a "grassy knoll" is just a ... grassy knoll

H. Perowne's picture

Mmmhmmm. We're from the government and we're here to help. Remember the Maine. Loose lips sink ships. Good sheep. Go to sleep now.

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

FYI, you may not have heard, but it was recently established that the "conspiracy theories" about flight 800 being shot down by a missile are actually "conspiracy fact".

Bell's 2 hearted's picture

let me guess ... twin towers and building 7 brought down by explosives too?

walküre's picture

at least you're consistent with your ignorance

next!

BraveSirRobin's picture

And a flatulent jewish bond trader... don;t forget to throw the Jew into conspiracy. It's not a valid conspiracy without a Jew at the center.

Wild Theories's picture

TWA800 was a millitary misfire accident that was cover up to prevent public outrage and uncomfortable questions.

9/11 was a pre-planned plot, whether it was a planned by crazed hijackers or some tentacled beast, I have no opinion...

Duffy's picture

I disagree.  It points to a massive fabrication regarding an event Russia was immediately blamed for across the media and government officials. 

I originally thought it quite possible that eastern "rebels" were essentially tricked into shooting it down.  But the preponderance of the credible evidence strongly suggests that this was a deliberate shootdown by Ukraine in order to blame Russia/Putin.  That is massive.

 

Hence, while I do appreciate the general call to avoid hyperbole, I think that this lie, in context, warrants the conclusion.  Nothing "wing nut" about it.  Just my 2 cents, I appreciate your take though.

bid the soldiers shoot's picture

On the other hand

"this was a deliberate shootdown by Ukraine in order to blame Russia/Putin"

Unless it was shot down because they thought it was Putin's plane.

They couldn't blame Putin for that

StormShadow's picture

This was US way of getting back at the Malaysians, twice, for putting Bush et al on trial for war crimes and convicting them in absentia

maskone909's picture

so instead of blowing up immediately, it took a while to hit the ground?  this doesnt mean it wasnt hit by a missile tho.  what i am saying is that this isnt exactly a "game changer".  they will be able to come up with some BS

rum_runner's picture

Huh?  I'm all of conspiracy circle-jerks but this is tinfoil hattery to the extreme.  Anyone consider that maybe the plane didn't explode immediately and someone put on the fucking mask that came down from the ceiling before they died??

Heck, there's even a youtube video someoen took showing the jet high up there still in one piece with flames trailing it.

Tyler Durden's picture

Perhaps re-reading the first sentence should help with your confusion.

Not Too Important's picture

Hey, Tyler, can you make the newbies take some kind of test? The trolls are annoying.

H. Perowne's picture

Running their source ISPs might be fun for the rest of us. Shine some light on the cockroaches hey?

Jendrzejczyk's picture

Hey, can you send Fonz an apology email and get him back?

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

He is back, he was spotted here a few days ago.

p00k1e's picture

Why didn't the crash site look like the front lawn at the Pentagon – plane debris no where?   That’s the real question. 

Phuk u's picture

Did he put it on or did someone else, this is all cock.

 

Frank N. Beans's picture

due to the missile impact, the mask came down and wrapped itself around the guy's neck, strangling him.

Bumbu Sauce's picture

I thought there were pictures of holes in the fuse from cannon fire(bullet holes).

QQQBall's picture

thats your imagination. Please provide your SSN for the audit

SAT 800's picture

 That;s right; there are. this guy's story is just part of some fabrication.  I think we're supposed  to "forget" about the 30mm holes now; while we get all hot and wet about the oxygen mask. Those fucking missiles are huge  they make huge firing signatures; everybody with any satelite capability in the whole region would have pictures of t he launch. But, of course, no one does.

Duc888's picture

 

 

"Needless to say, this makes a complete mockery out of the story that the plane had exploded upon impact with the "Russian" missile"

 

Ya don't say... ya mean US lied?

I'm shocked I tell ya, shocked.

Captain Jack Sparrow's picture

An oxygen mask found on a MH370 passenger would be more significant

yellowsub's picture

The plane being found woud be more signifcant.

kaiten's picture

Dont you know? It´s parked in hangar at Diego Garcia.

1000yrdstare's picture

Its at this moment being "stuffed" with ebola dead people from west africa....soon to visit a city near you!

Evil Bugeyes's picture

Well, if the plane was shot down and passengers had time to put on oxygen masks, wouldn't there be some mention of it on the cockpit recorder?

Also, why would only one passenger be wearing an oxygen mask? Wouldn't they all have put them on?

On the other hand, if the plane was hit by a missile there would be immediate decompression and oxygen masks might drop down. Maybe only one passenger was still conscious after the explosion. To me, this supports the missile theory.

TrulyStupid's picture

A missile hit would cause an explosion and everyone on board would die from the explosive decompression... the debris field would be quite dispersed.

The initial report claimed that a number of high energy objects hit the fuselage... cannon fire from an aircraft most likely. The plane would go into a dive possibly though not necessarily break up on the way down.. still time for some passengers to don air masks.

If Russia or the Ukrainina separitists were responsible... there would have been a hew and cry from the MSM like no other..instead this story has been buried.

Interesting that the colours painted on Malaysian Airlines are the same colors as the Russian Federation... there is speculation that a Ukrainian pilot took the initiative to shoot down what he surmised was a Russian aircraft.

Evil Bugeyes's picture

Rapid decompression isn't necessarily fatal. My HS science teacher was an ex-USAF pilot and he described an incident where his plane was flying at > 40K feet and suddenly decompressed. He said the cockpit immediately filled with fog, but they were able to quickly descend and were basically OK except for eardrum damage.

Also, missiles are equipped with proximity fuzes and sometimes explode without actually hitting the plane. The missile debris is enough to take down the plane.

Loucleve's picture

Tell that to Payne Stewart.  And the family in the Lear last month.

Military planes might be built differently.  They expect to be shot at, and where pressurized suits.

Evil Bugeyes's picture

The NTSB was never able to determine exactly what happened in the Payne Stewart case. One possibility they mentioned was a slow decompression that caused hypoxia to set in before anyone noticed it.

If sudden decompression was immediately fatal, why would they bother to install oxygen masks in planes? Oxygen masks only make sense if people are able to survive the initial decompression.

TrulyStupid's picture

Missiles seek the heat of the engines. Fuel tanks are midfuselage along the wings. A missile hit would be characterized by a huge fireeball explosion with a widely dispersed debris field. The investigators have said the FUSELAGE was impacted by a number of high energy objects. An airplane shot down by cannon fire would have a partially intact but perforated fuselage in a more concentrated debris field.   Connect the dots.

Evil Bugeyes's picture

Many missiles do seek engine heat. But that doesn't mean that the missile only explodes when it hits the plane. Often the missile will detonate when it gets sufficiently close to the target. So the plane can be taken down even in cases where the missile would have actually missed it.

cheech_wizard's picture

The air speed of an African swallow is...

In this case the glide ratio of flight MH17 is 15:1...

> For example, with a glide ratio of 15:1, a Boeing 747-200 can glide for 150 kilometres (93 mi) from a cruising altitude of 10,000 metres (33,000 ft)...

How convenient, I didn't have to do a single calculation.... now, last locations of MH17...

The crash site was how far away from point of last contact? Certainly not 150km, more like 10 to 15km with the debris spread over 5km or so... Feel free to correct this last statement, I am going by memory. And yet someone had time to get an oxygen mask around their neck with a TUC of of between 20 to 30 seconds (assuming explosive decompression)? 

Last positions of directly from Flightradar24 database. Signal was lost around 13:21 UTC at 33,000 feet.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/mh17-pinpointing-the-precise-location-o...

scroll down you'll find the data,

BraveSirRobin's picture

Sorry, but it takes a lot longer than 20 to 30 seconds for a stricken plane to go from 33,000 feet to 0. You are saying the airliner went from 33,000 feet to the ground at a speed of 1,125 miles per hour. Nope.

At cruise, the aircraft was proably going about 580 MPH, give or take. After it began to break up in flight, it would decelerate because or air resitance, with its various pieces and parts likely going around 185 MPH upon impact.