MH-17 Report False Flag Exposed After Revelation Passenger Was Wearing Oxygen Mask

Tyler Durden's picture

When exactly a month ago the supposedly objective, impartial Netherlands released its official, 34-page preliminary report of the MH-17 crash over Ukraine, presumably based on black box data, air traffic control records, and other "authentic, verified" information, there were precisely zero mentions of "oxygen", "mask" or "oxygen mask."

Which is odd, because in what should become the biggest Freudian slip scandal in false-flag history, certainly since the Gulf of Tonkin, yesterday Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans accidentally revealed for the very first time ever, that one of the Australian passengers aboard the doomed airplane "appears to have donned an oxygen mask before the fatal crash, suggesting some on board might have been aware of their impending deaths, a Dutch official disclosed." Clearly a crucial aspect of the crash, as it points at the severity of the alleged explosion, yet one which was not noted until yesterday and which completely skipped the purvey of the official crash report for reasons unknown.

Needless to say, this makes a complete mockery of the story that the plane had exploded upon impact with the "Russian" missile, and is why there was supposedly no trace of any impact on the flight's black box recorder. Whether or not it also means that the alternative theory that a Ukraine jet had purposefully downed the Malaysian aircraft to serve as a pretext to implicate Russia, is unclear. But it also means that yet another conspiracy theory becomes fact: namely that whoever were the western powers who doctored and manipulated the "official" crash report of MH-17 to implicate Putin, not only lied but fabricated evidence.

Immediately upon realization just how serious the implications of this slip are, the damage control started, but it was too late. From the LA Times:

Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans apologized on Thursday for making the revelation on a television talk show the previous night, before the families of the 298 victims of the disaster had been notified of the disturbing discovery.

 

Timmermans gave an emotional speech at the United Nations four days after the crash in which he imagined the terrified passengers exchanging glances "one final time, in an unarticulated goodbye."

 

When talk show host Jeroen Pauw interviewed Timmermans on Wednesday night, he provoked the minister with accusations that he had dramatized the victims' last moments as a preliminary investigation report suggests that the Boeing 777's destruction was so swift that those on board were unlikely to have known anything was amiss.

 

"They did not see the rocket coming, but you know someone was found with an oxygen mask on his mouth?” Timmermans replied, according to the NL Times translation of his comments.  "He thus had the time to do that. We cannot rule it out."

Well, actually we did not know because the official report that your country released Mr. Timmermans, and which we posted a month ago said that "high-energy objects from outside the aircraft" struck the airplane as it flew at an altitude of 33,000 feet, suggesting it had been struck by a missile.

Nothing on the flight data or cockpit voice recorders indicated the crew or passengers took any action in response to the fatal impact.

Which means the entire report is a fabrication.

So what did happen?

The mask found around the neck of the unnamed passenger, one of 88 Australian citizens and residents on board, was tested for fingerprints, saliva and DNA but produced no forensic evidence, De Bruin said. "So it is not known how or when that mask got around the neck of the victim," he said.

 

The discovery of the mask and the implications it raised about the passengers' final moments were conveyed to the Australian's family before Timmermans' interview on Wednesday night, the prosecutor's office said. But information was sent out to other family members of the MH-17 victims only on Thursday morning.

Timmermans issued a statement Thursday saying he regretted making the comment. We are confident that everyone else in the false-flag waving Western camp very much regretted Timmermans' comment as well.

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smacker's picture

"To me, this supports the missile theory."

That maybe true but I don't think many people dispute the "missile theory". It's always been a question of where the missile was fired from. We already know where the 30mm canon was fired from that littered the fuselage around the cockpit area. So the missile came from the same place. IE a Ukraine air force SU-25. A false flag.

BraveSirRobin's picture

Maybe you made a typo, but a SU-25 could not intercept a Boeing 777 at 33,000 feet altitude. First, the SU-25 can not fly that high, with a serivce ceiling of about 23,000 feet, or 10,000 feet below the Boeing's cruising altitude. Also, the Boeing cruises at speeds above what the SU-25 can attain at altitude. 

SAT 800's picture

We don't get to listen to t he cockpit recorder !! Nobody does !. Just like the Zapruder film it's put away so as not  to disturb anyone.

Evil Bugeyes's picture

Tyler states: "Nothing on the flight data or cockpit voice recorders indicated the crew or passengers took any action in response to the fatal impact."

How does Tyler know what was on the recorders?

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

Tyler is pointing out the discrepancy between the official report of what was on the data recorders, and what the Dutch politician said, which directly contradicted the official report.

Frozen's picture

For Christ's sake Tylers, I can only handle so much alarm at once.  Ebola, fake jobs reports, false flags, racism, wage inequality, education.. I don't know which way to look.  Should I kill myself or make a cup of coffee?

Not Too Important's picture

Both? In no particular order?

Frozen's picture

Have you been able to get on enenews in the past few hours?

kchrisc's picture

Funny thing about this is that, coupled with all of the other false-flags, and the big Pharma supporting "Swine Flu" false-flag of 2009, people still believe that Ebola is breaking out in the DC US.

They don't lie some of the time, they lie all of the time.

An American, not US subject.

 

"Don't believe the tripe, it's a sequel."

Fuku Ben's picture

How dare ZH publish this outrageous article.

"Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories"

Someone from David Cameron's office will be contacting you shortly. They are pursuing all legal avenues to threaten and intimidate you into silence and compliance. They are allegedly consulting with an infamous clown in a costume from the state of Connecticut in America for their expert opinion.

Loucleve's picture

Paging Cass Sunstein, paging Css Sunstein.

Cass Sunstein?

Oh, I see his boys are already here.

Miner's picture

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but don't the masks deploy automatically in the event of a loss of cabin pressure?

A plane doesn't usually explode mid-air when the missle explodes.  The missle is tiny compared to the plane.  When it explodes, it's designed to structurally compromise the plane, perforate the fuselage, damage the engines and wings, and make it unflyable.  It makes the plane fall out of the sky.  If the masks deployed a passenger would have had enough time to don the mask.

scam_MERS's picture

Miner, exactly right. But that doesn't fit the narrative that some people on ZH espouse.

booboo's picture

ZH has espoused that the narrative by the west was suspect and this omission from the official report only hardens their case, now go back to your water cooler at .govfuckup

JohninMK's picture

I agree as well.

The evidence points at something peppering the front of the plane with shrapnel/bullets with the rest of the body remaining intact for a while. A Buk missile is designed to down a fighter sized aircraft by disabling it, the warhead is not big enough or designed to 'explode' its target let alone an airliner.

The actual decompression does not kill, it is lack of oxygen. The masks should have dropped automatically and there is a chance that not just this Australian but many passengers, especially those with their belts done up, remained alive using the masks until impact.

Loucleve's picture

The plane explodes my friend, take my word for it.  No, no time to put on an oxygen mask.  If your falling from 10 miles up, I think the last thing on your mind is an oxygen mask.

Miner's picture

I respectfully disagree.

They wouldn't be 10 miles up, and the wreckage shows that large chunks of the aircraft were still together until it hit the ground.  The normal altitude for commercial aircraft is around 30,000 feet, or 10,000 meters.  If you make worst case scenario assumptions, outlined below, the plane would have been in the air at least another 30 seconds before it hit the ground.  "Place the mask over your mouth and nose and secure it with the straps" is drilled into your head every time you get on a plane.  I maintain it is fully reasonable that someone could get their mask on before impact.

Worst case scenario assumptions are that the plane is traveling straight down at 300mph or 134m/s at the time of impact and continued accelerating straight down with no lift or wind resistance whatsoever.  The presence of lift, wind resistance, or a non-vertical flight path only increases the amount of time between impact and crash.

The 64,000 Euro question is in 2 parts:  A. Does an audio or other alert indicate that the masks have deployed in the normal operation of the aircraft? and B. Is that signal present on the FDR?  If it's not, then its absence on the FDR is suspect.

Regarding the "consensus" around what happened, I don't really care.  Someone screwed up and shot down a Passenger Airliner.  Before the facts were known, a giant propaganda machine (likely from my country) tried to blame Russia.  When the facts on the ground didn't make that clear, the propaganda machine coasted on its own inertia before moving on to something else.  The machine forgot about Ukraine entirely when ISIS started killing people, and it stopped being news.  I feel, based on nothing more than my own observations, that an outside party (again likely from the United States) is using the Ukraine conflict to weaken Russia for political purposes.  The exact objective likely remain a mystery beyond my death until a 50 or 100 year classified material review brings it out into the open.  Barring the development of Cryonics or Life extension technology I am unlikely to ever know the real answer.

Nex's picture

I don't know is this false flag or not but around fall of MH-17 is too many coincidence. Let see:
1) Putin travel to South America whe he meet with number of different leaders , completely destroy Obama plan of isolations in USA backyard.
2) Oil was 105-110
3) EU absolutely don't think about sanctions
4) Rebels in East Ukraine, after pullback from Slovyansk made huge offensive and created south encirclement for ukraine army.
5) Poroshenko was ready for peace plan.
And than-boom, MH-17 down, most victims are from Nederlands, country which has greate relations with Russia, they even send high delegation on open ceremony in Sochi, which USA don't like. Putin is on plane from South America, and complete hysteria next few days in western media. Oil start "correction"(now it is nearly 20% basically on same, or even worse conditions, for oil productions, like in mid june) and EU are under huge USA pressure(Baiden admitted) to introduce sanctions on Russia, which they do in end of july.
I don't know if USA is behind this, maybe some idiot in Kiev, oligarch pay somebody or something like that but too many coincidences.

walküre's picture

Don't forget the statement Mme Lagarde made to the press club at the beginning of the year telling the small clueless world about the magic number 7 and how there is a G7 (when at the time it was still a G8).

Always good to view this again and again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYmViPTndxw

MH 17 goes down on the 17th of the 7th month

Coincidence my ass

Brokenarrow's picture

Im not flying for obvious reasons. Im not driving because the police will rob me. Its time to protect yourself.

CuttingEdge's picture

The very fact that Farnborough have the black box(es) and said it will take a year to determine cause tells anyone with more than 2 brain cells who brought the plane down, notwithstanding photos of the cockpit riddled with cannon fire.

 

gwar5's picture

I think it was a false flag but not sure how much an oxygen mask around the neck of one passenger proves. I understand they are deployed upon decompression, but come on... The pictures on the ground showed everything flew apart and was in pieces. I'm surprised the poor guy still even had a head or a neck. 

 

So if a fight attendant was found without any of her clothes on does that really mean she was banging a passenger mid-flght? Probably not.

I need more for "proof", like 50 cal holes in the fuselage. Unfortunately, I'm not holding my breath on such things to surface anytime soon, either. That day has passed.

 

 

SAT 800's picture

30mm holes; and t hey already leaked. but you're supposed t o forget about t hem.

BraveSirRobin's picture

There are no holes from 30mm cannon fire. Easily provable by looing at the photos.

robnume's picture

Moar politicians lying through their teeth. Why would a Dutch politician be any different? Those so-called "Christian Democrats" have the Nederlands in their grip. And they will tow the NATO line, every time.

Seize Mars's picture

Motherfuckers.
Zionism delenda est.

tony wilson's picture

putin is a known known

a bully bully.

he could have had fsb on the plane with a gun forcing the post modern anne franks to take off the oxygen masks.

looks like one guy got away or got missed in the kgb dragnet.

either that or putin got his friend steven seagal to parachute into the crash site to complete the mask putting on broken dutch face psy operation.

what ever way you skin this sore headed bear this stinks of vlady vostok moscowvite special operations executives.

NotApplicable's picture

LOL, what time do you start drinking, anyway?

Myself, just finishing the first ale. Cheers!

tony wilson's picture

i could translate it for you?

but i do not speak mule!

markar's picture

tony, I never knew psychosis could be so funny.

NickVegas's picture

I always upvote Wilson because his prose is so disturbed.

FranSix's picture

High altitude AA gun would be capable of downing MH17:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/130_mm_air_defense_gun_KS-30 

PaperBear's picture

A missile would have reduced MH17 to flaming debris in the blink of an eye so this passenger having sufficient time to receive an oxygen mask being deployed has just destroyed the official story.

tony wilson's picture

what if the russian buk explosion hit forced depressurisation of the main fuserularge  forcing the oxygene jean michelle jarre custom face masks to shoot forwards and downwards the zerogravity g forces forcing the masks to couple onto cranium then full face positioning all in 000.0.2 of a fraction of a second minute.

kind of like the magic bullet grassy noel theory

cheney and aipac and the talmudicks rabbi said putin did it that is good enough for me.

yellowsub's picture

Something isn't right, the jet fuel should have disintegrated the plane and all evidence as it burned like 9/11...    

antidisestablishmentarianismishness's picture

Surely this also serves as proof that Obama is trying to kill us all with ebola.  I am volunteering to stay in harms way while the rest of you idiots crawl into your holes and hide.  I will let you know when it is safe to come out.  Just remember it is imperative for you to remain quietly in your holes until further notice.

limacon's picture

Wearing an oxygen mask is not unusual , especially for passengers on beta-blockers .

So , not too much emphasis should be placed on this circumstantial evidence .

 

Sometimes , the trout in the milk was just in the wrong place at the wrong time .

 

See http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2010/11/flightrage-and-betablockers.html

Loucleve's picture

I've flown around the world a number of times and have never seen anyone wearing an oxygen mask FROM THE PLANE.

Carry on oxygen, yes.

cart00ner's picture

The emphasis is that if the black boxes were intact they would have recorded the masks being deployed - and the explosion. Unless the plane was desintegrated on impact whereas noone would have had time to put their mask on.

I Write Code's picture

One of them was wearing an argon mask, obviously an alien agent from Planet Z.

Griffin's picture

Gas masks are selling quite well in Iceland right now because of gas in the air, mostly sulfur dioxide, This is produced by the volcanic eruption at Holuhraun.

The sun and the moon sometimes change color because of this.

This is what the sun looked like this morning.  http://www.mbl.is/frettir/innlent/2014/10/09/raud_sol_yfir_reykjavik_myn...

It looks really cool, Its almost like being on another planet.

 

When the eruption started there was considerable pollution, but fortunately the hurricane Cristobal showed up and swept this blue haze out to sea.  http://www.visir.is/island-i-auga-stormsins/article/2014140909969

 

 

 

alexcojones's picture

Is TimmerMan a Member of the Tribe?

Mo Sad if he Is.

xPat's picture

Tyler, ZH was such an awesome site in the beginning. It's so depressing to see you consistently lapse out of reality and into pure, unadulterated, misinformed, ignorant speculation.

There is nothing inconsistent about one pax being found with a donned oxygen mask and a missile shootdown being the cause of the crash, and there is no sane reason to jump to the idiotic conclusion that this "proves" that "the whole story was false". All that has been proven here is that ZeroHedge is astonishingly ignorant about aviation safety matters, and unabashed about flaunting that ignorance in the form of outspoken declarations of "proof" when none exists.

The oxygen masks deploy automatically on a loss of cabin pressure. The business about someone "knowing in advance of their impending deaths" makes zero sense because the masks would not have deployed or been available to the pax until the missile exploded compromising cabin pressure. You are assuming that the missile impact would instantly kill everyone onboard, and that's idiotic. Some may have died from missile blast impact, but those seated at the other end of the aircraft from the missile blast's center of force would still be alive, and it's not at all surprising that at least one pax was able to don a mask during the minute or more it would have taken for even a broken-up fuselage to fall to the ground from FL330.

In short, NONE of your idiotic conclusions pass muster to even the slightest bit of scrutiny. As USUAL, you are a complete charlatan, Tyler, spouting off about "proof" when you don't have the foggiest clue of which you speak.

xPat
Licensed Airline Transport Pilot and former airline Captain

xPat's picture

In the interest of being complete... My comments above are based on the assumption we're talking about one of the aircraft's oxygen masks.

In the alternate scenario that we're talking about a pax with a mask and portable oxygen bottle that was in use independent of the aircraft's systems, then your argument is even weaker. Plenty of people need supplemental oxygen for medical reasons when flying on airliners, because the cabin altitutle routinely reaches upwards of 7,000'. Carrying a portable oxygen rig on an airline flight isn't the slightest bit unusual or suspicious, and is a routine occurrence on commerical flights. It proves exactly NOTHING.

xPat

hotrod's picture

Wouldn't the jet fuel ignite immediately and vaporize the plane if it was a missle.  Dont see how anyone would have time to put on a mask.  When I ignite any form of gas the explosion is instantaneous.  I would not even have time to think I am dying.

xPat's picture

No, @hotrod, not at all true. Even the space shuttle Challenger astronauts were alive and conscious for most of their fall back to earth, and there's no reason to assume the entire aircraft would "vaporize" on missile impact.

The missile explosion is designed to compromise the aircraft structurally, possibly breaking up the fuselage. Pax seated well away from the wings (where most of the fuel is stored) and engines would likely survive the missile impact, but not the subsequent crash of the aircraft. It's likely that quite a few pax were alive for the fall back to earth, but most would lose consciousness very quickly at that altitude without supplemental oxygen. The notion that one or even a few pax managed to get a mask on before they fell to their death isn't the slightest bit difficult to believe in this situation.

xPat

Boogity's picture

Your authoritative assertions sound sound reasonable.  But given that having a 4 year university scientific or engineering degree (BA or BS) is not required by the FAA for becoming a commercial airline pilot (although many airlines require them and many pilots do have relevant university degrees), what exactly are your technical and educational qualifications to so authoritatively discuss the structural effects of missile impact?   Are you a degreed professional engineer?  If not I would recommend you cite proper references authored by qualifed persons to make your argument rather than relying on "I know because of I'm a pilot" argument as you try to educate ZH'ers.   

For the record the FAA reqirements for becoming a commercial airline pilot are detailed at this link:

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/rulemaking/recently_published/media/2120-aj67.pdf

By the way I have a B.S. in geology and an M.S. in geophysics and have worked for more than 30 years in the oil industry both in exploration and research, but I wouldn't presume to make an authoritative argument on the structural effects of missile impact without citing a proper reference by a qualified engineer or physicist, even though I can hold my own in physics and math.  

BraveSirRobin's picture

He's pretty much on the dot. I could throw my credentials around, but it;s the internet, and anyone could say anything. But I will state I could be deemed an authoritative expert in this area. But why would you attack the poster's POTENTIAL that he does not have a college degree, and why does that even matter? I have friend with no college degree that ran an advanced physics lab and hold 26 patents, mostly related to radar. My father has no high school or college degree, but was board certified in psychiatry and emergency medicine and practiced medicine and even serving as a department chair at a respected medical university. 

The only people I ever hired based on a degree were kids right out of college. After that, I could care less. What mattered was what they had done. And an airline pilot with say, 5,000 hours under his belt, even if he only had a GED, is way more credible to me than a PhD who sat in front of a white board and computer for 20 years when it comes to how aircraft behave in flight. And by the way, I hired lots of PhD's in my time, and many were idiots who could solve very complex math problems, but the problems they were solving had no real world relevance or use. 

You do not have to have an advanced degree to know something.

agNau's picture

Someone call Gimp McCain. He was shot down. He has real experience.
And he's a war hero and my hero too!