MH-17 Report False Flag Exposed After Revelation Passenger Was Wearing Oxygen Mask

Tyler Durden's picture

When exactly a month ago the supposedly objective, impartial Netherlands released its official, 34-page preliminary report of the MH-17 crash over Ukraine, presumably based on black box data, air traffic control records, and other "authentic, verified" information, there were precisely zero mentions of "oxygen", "mask" or "oxygen mask."

Which is odd, because in what should become the biggest Freudian slip scandal in false-flag history, certainly since the Gulf of Tonkin, yesterday Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans accidentally revealed for the very first time ever, that one of the Australian passengers aboard the doomed airplane "appears to have donned an oxygen mask before the fatal crash, suggesting some on board might have been aware of their impending deaths, a Dutch official disclosed." Clearly a crucial aspect of the crash, as it points at the severity of the alleged explosion, yet one which was not noted until yesterday and which completely skipped the purvey of the official crash report for reasons unknown.

Needless to say, this makes a complete mockery of the story that the plane had exploded upon impact with the "Russian" missile, and is why there was supposedly no trace of any impact on the flight's black box recorder. Whether or not it also means that the alternative theory that a Ukraine jet had purposefully downed the Malaysian aircraft to serve as a pretext to implicate Russia, is unclear. But it also means that yet another conspiracy theory becomes fact: namely that whoever were the western powers who doctored and manipulated the "official" crash report of MH-17 to implicate Putin, not only lied but fabricated evidence.

Immediately upon realization just how serious the implications of this slip are, the damage control started, but it was too late. From the LA Times:

Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans apologized on Thursday for making the revelation on a television talk show the previous night, before the families of the 298 victims of the disaster had been notified of the disturbing discovery.

 

Timmermans gave an emotional speech at the United Nations four days after the crash in which he imagined the terrified passengers exchanging glances "one final time, in an unarticulated goodbye."

 

When talk show host Jeroen Pauw interviewed Timmermans on Wednesday night, he provoked the minister with accusations that he had dramatized the victims' last moments as a preliminary investigation report suggests that the Boeing 777's destruction was so swift that those on board were unlikely to have known anything was amiss.

 

"They did not see the rocket coming, but you know someone was found with an oxygen mask on his mouth?” Timmermans replied, according to the NL Times translation of his comments.  "He thus had the time to do that. We cannot rule it out."

Well, actually we did not know because the official report that your country released Mr. Timmermans, and which we posted a month ago said that "high-energy objects from outside the aircraft" struck the airplane as it flew at an altitude of 33,000 feet, suggesting it had been struck by a missile.

Nothing on the flight data or cockpit voice recorders indicated the crew or passengers took any action in response to the fatal impact.

Which means the entire report is a fabrication.

So what did happen?

The mask found around the neck of the unnamed passenger, one of 88 Australian citizens and residents on board, was tested for fingerprints, saliva and DNA but produced no forensic evidence, De Bruin said. "So it is not known how or when that mask got around the neck of the victim," he said.

 

The discovery of the mask and the implications it raised about the passengers' final moments were conveyed to the Australian's family before Timmermans' interview on Wednesday night, the prosecutor's office said. But information was sent out to other family members of the MH-17 victims only on Thursday morning.

Timmermans issued a statement Thursday saying he regretted making the comment. We are confident that everyone else in the false-flag waving Western camp very much regretted Timmermans' comment as well.

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bid the soldiers shoot's picture

 

Interesting.

"would likely survive the missile impact" 

And the missile blast shockwave.  In a narrow aluminum tube, as well.

Who'da thunk it?

DFCtomm's picture

They die later because their internal organs turn to goo. It's a common effect that's been seen by people who are in close proximity to large explosions. So some probably did live, but would have died later from the effects if they didn't hit the ground so damn hard.

bid the soldiers shoot's picture

 

"So some probably did live"

 

I don't doubt that some did live, but they were in a completely unconscious state.

Certainly in no condition to don an oxygen mask or bid and make a three no trump contract.

DFCtomm's picture

That's why conspiracy theorists are fuckng morons. I wouldn't presume to know what a human is capable of in that situation, but you with your many degrees in conspiracy bullshit know exactly what a man might be able to do in that situation. You're also fucking morons because you're willing to believe outrageous shit when it furthers your insane theories and yet won't be as open minded when something might contradict your beliefs.

bid the soldiers shoot's picture

 

 I wouldn't presume to know what a human is capable of in that situation.

 

Why don't you ask some people who are in close proximity to large explosions?

You have no trouble believing them that people caught in an explosion are capable of having their internal organs turn to goo.  

Would that be the sticky goo or the slimy goo, in case it's a question on Jeopardy?    (I'll take 'internal organs' for $300, Alex.)

 

bid the soldiers shoot's picture

If it's you and I am responsible, I'm sorry. :o)

DFCtomm's picture

That's not what you said just down the page:

 

 

bid the soldier...


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Exactly.

 

The cannon fire through the cockpit and forward part of the plane caused the oxygen masks to deploy.  10 seconds later the Ukrainian missile slammed into the plane and it fell to the earth.

For all we know many of the passengers had masks on which were torn off when the plane dove down 30,000 ft.

 

 

So which is it? Do you think they were unconscious or that they put their masks on? You appear to be confused.

bid the soldiers shoot's picture

 

For All We know....   Karen Carpenter said it best. Or sang it best

http://www.lyrics007.com/Carpenters%20Lyrics/For%20All%20We%20Know%20Lyr...

But I said it too.

"For all we know many of the passengers had masks on which were torn off when the plane dove down 30,000 ft."

Do they have the expression for all we know  in the quaint village where you live?  It means what follows is my opinion about something that no one  --  tho occasionally as many as one or two people --  can possibly know anything about.

No one here has any idea what kind of projectile hit the airplane.  Or if it pierced the cabin before it exploded.  We've heard from a German pilot, who saw the wreckage and said that it was riddled by cannon fire.

For all we know this is part of the mouse trap Timmermans has set to establish who the guilty parties  are.  

After all 196 of his countrymen died in the crash.

 


BraveSirRobin's picture

Because the warhead is not an explosive. Please look up "Expanding Rod Warhead."

bid the soldiers shoot's picture

 

The plane is down. The passengers are dead. An angry EU & US have imposed sanctions on Russia.

Who had this type of warhead?  The Rebels?  The Ukrainian AF?

Have you told the Dutch Safety Board?

DFCtomm's picture

actually it doesn't. It only burns as a gas, and not a liquid. Have you ever seen anybody drop a match into a full container of gasoline and then rapidly close the lid, and it didn't burn? I've seen guys, brave guys, weld a fuel tank with fuel in it while using a air line to evacuate the fumes. You people live some sheltered lives.

DFCtomm's picture

I've got more amazing feets than that. You ever seat a tire on a rim by filling it with starter fluid(ether) and igniting it? Honestly, I didn't do that since I'm not stupid, but I know people who are that stupid, and watched them do it.

BraveSirRobin's picture

"Wouldn't the jet fuel ignite immediately and vaporize the plane if it was a missle."

No, the missile warhead is not an explosive and does not kill with heat. It is called an "expanding rod" and is basically a metal net. The are no explosives or pryotechnics in the expanding rod. There is no reason at all that any fuel would be ignited, epscially is the rod did not hit any fuel tanks. In addition, if the tanks were hit and ignited from metal sparking, they would not necessarily "explode," but more likely simply catch fire and burn. 

Tjeff1's picture

You make too much sense.

Barnaby's picture

Oh look, a retired limo driver is lecturing us about the dangers of rhetoric whilst employing rhetoric. Methinks xPat doth protest too much.

xPat's picture

I just miss the *old* ZeroHedge - the credible version. That's all.

xPat

Barnaby's picture

Why does inviting conversation reduce the credibility of a webzone? We're all here on equal footing, you know. I think the Tylers are capturing the current panic-geist quite admirably.

BraveSirRobin's picture

"I just miss the *old* ZeroHedge - the credible version. That's all."

Bravo - and I as well. The looney tunes who have taken over this site are simply amazing. It was once a great site. Too bad.

H. Perowne's picture

Actually, what it proves is that the "official" report issued to the public was sloppy, incomplete, and designed to focus anger on Putin/the Russkies/those darned inconvenient separatists. Facts are stubborn things. Either the plane was destroyed by a ground based missle launch or it was shot down by an airplane. The Novorussians had no access to any kind of military fighter jets at the time of the incident. So the party line is a missle launched by Russian separatists.  You'll forgive us, xPat, if we (and the Tylers) choose to take this with the same grain of salt that it would have been wise to take the same claims of weapons of mass destruction years ago. 

smacker's picture

OK. Please explain the dozens of round holes (entry & exit) in the fuselage of MH-17 around the cockpit area which were described by a German ex-pilot, now analyst, as 30mm cannon fire. He publihed hi-res photo-images of them. The Kiev air force have SU-25's fitted with 30mm cannon. The Russians published imagery showing such jets in the immediate vicinity of MH-17 immediately before it was shot down.

bid the soldiers shoot's picture

 

Exactly.

 

The cannon fire through the cockpit and forward part of the plane caused the oxygen masks to deploy.  10 seconds later the Ukrainian missile slammed into the plane and it fell to the earth.

For all we know many of the passengers had masks on which were torn off when the plane dove down 30,000 ft.

I'm surprised that even one victim was discovered still wearing a mask. 

TheReplacement's picture

I'm not a License Airline Transport Pilot and I don't care if you are or not.  That has no relevance in the matter of using common sense about something you apparently have never dealt with - investigating a jetliner shootdown.  If you had been involved in such events in the past you would have mentioned that in your qualifications.

If shrapnel can pass through the skin and frame of the plane it certainly would pass through the skin and frame of "pax" continuing on to the next "pax" and so on and so forth until it actually meets enough resistance to make it stop.  If the multitude of bodies did actually stop the shrapnel then we should have physical evidence from the missile itself.  The shrapnel could be tested for metalic and chemical properties to determine what kind of metal and if there was any explosive residue on it.  All of this would lead a forensic investigation to be able to conclude at least the nation of origin for the metal and/or explosives. 

Let us not forget that missile parts tend to be stamped with part and serial numbers.  Funny the report didn't mention anything about all of these things that would absolutely be there if the conclusion of the report were true.  The lack of the evidence proves the report is false because any valid report would include this evidence as absolute proof.

I smell a pattern.

 

BraveSirRobin's picture

Again, sigh, there is NO sprapnel. The war head was an "expanding rod." 

"Let us not forget that missile parts tend to be stamped with part and serial numbers.  Funny the report didn't mention anything about all of these things that would absolutely be there if the conclusion of the report were true.  The lack of the evidence proves the report is false because any valid report would include this evidence as absolute proof."

I am sorry, but are saying shrapnel would have serial numbers? That's stupid, sorry, but it is. And lack of evidence never proves anything. That too, is a supremely stupid statement. "I have no evidence the Moon is made of blue cheese, therefore, because there is no evidence, I can conclusively prove the moon is made of blue cheese!" Is that your argument?

petkovplamen's picture

photos alrready clearly show numerous bullet holes.

You STLL havent presented ANY real evidence of a missle. Same as the "Russian invasion of Ukrane" same as "weapons of mass distraction", same as "Assad gassed his own people", same as "babies taken out of uncubators" lies.

You ARe right, we DO smell a pattern. A pattern of lies streaching back over 25 years.

Ides of November's picture

ZH is an awesome site - if you can't smell the fishiness about the downing of MH17 you obviously haven't looked hard enough at it.

And that's being polite.

Why are your account details blocked anyway xPat?

DFCtomm's picture

It's not depressing. It's like a trip to the zoo, but with conspiracy theory freaks of every type, instead of animals. Further down the page we got one talking about mind controlled flight instructor killing JFK Junior. That's even better than radiation cannons. It's funny as hell. You need to learn to stop and smell the roses.

The_Prisoner's picture

Australian government sacrificing its own people to further Empire's agenda.

Meanwhile muslim women get attacked on the streets because of fabricated IS.

 

Barnaby's picture

I still assert there was a bomb onboard that was popped once the cockpit was strafed by MiGs of unimportant origin.

This current junk is whitewash to cover the Ukrainian soldiers who attest the bodies were decomposed and possibly refrigerated prior to their aerial dumping. Showing an Aussie on the Aqualung simply helps promulgate the main story, that these passengers were alive at all. Have the Dutch sold us out?

BraveSirRobin's picture

"Ukrainian soldiers who attest the bodies were decomposed and possibly refrigerated prior to their aerial dumping."

So, they took all the people away from all their families and friends, killed them, say, a week before their flight, then, for some reason, froze them after some decomposition, then loaded a couple hundred dead and frozen bodies into an airplance at a gate at a busy airport, and no body fucking noticed?

Is that what you really think? And you are not actually insane?  

Seize Mars's picture

Hasbara in the hay-ouse.
CIA/Mossad have a lot at stake here.
They're not interested in anyone figuring out who the bad guys are.

"This proves nothing...!" LOL
"A missile actually explodes at a distance, giving some guy time to put on a mask( while burning and tumbling at 400 kts)" LOL

TheReplacement's picture

So... where is the shrapnel from the missile.  A large missile would embed a lot of chunks of itself in the plane.  The lack of this obvious physical proof is damning.

DFCtomm's picture

Have you been on a passenger jet? I know they seem really, really solid, but they aren't. They're composed mostly of aluminum and some more exotic metals, and other composites that while strong are mostly strong for their weight. It's not hard to imagine that most of the shrapnel passed right through the fuselage. Most aircraft sheetmetal is pretty thin, even military aircraft aren't armored over every single inch of their surface area. That's why they have all those annoying signs on the surface area that say don't walk here and not a step.

 

P.S. We actually had a discussion about this once in one of my old units regarding the incendary rounds, and how horrible it would be to be shot with one, but then it donned on us that we probably aren't solid enough to even set one off.

Seize Mars's picture

that's what I'm saying dill-snip

heywood2's picture

The headline is ridiculous. The fact that one of the dead had time to get an oxygen mask on doesn't expose anything, expect that a chunk of the fuselage was intact for 20 seconds or so after the Russian missile hit it.

 

I see crude oil is down again today. I wonder if that is going to cut into Russian state funding for Zerohedge?

 

The_Prisoner's picture

Love your chains much, cowboy?

Spastica Rex's picture

Love the Hank!

Why is your profile "Access Denied?"

 

nathan1234's picture

He is in Isolation as he has the Obola virus.

So Access Denied

frankly scarlet's picture

ce le guerre... 298 of the lower stratums of society wiped out for nothing; but to people like Porshenko or Nuland well the they think the gamble was worth it.

Captain Chlamydia's picture

"Timmermans issued a statement Thursday saying he regretted making the comment. We are confident that everyone else in the false-flag waving Western camp very much regretted Timmermans' comment as well."

Indeed.....MH17 didn't go just BOOM!

What can you expect from a country that invented Bilderberg?

Timmermans is gewoon een smerig liegbeest. Wat een enorme prutser! [Dutch]

Kina's picture

If you are taken out by a BUK at that altitude you do Not get to don an oxygen mask.

Explosive decompression at that altitude, freezing and thin atmosphere, and extremely sudden air pressure drop.

The time it takes it realise what has happened, that something has happened, your brain in no-mans-land because of the sudden chaos and because of the sudden extreme change in physical circumestances....and the oxygen masks dropping down?? And you being able to grab one......(even see one? lights still working I wonder, at night....).

 

I mean the conditions for a human being under those circumstances renders them incapable of obtaining enough control and thought to take any action in the few seconds available...if that.

Highly unlikley anybody has any opportunity or capability to don an oxygen mask if they are taken out by a BUK.

 

 

cheech_wizard's picture

TUC time 20 to 30 seconds...I can't even light a cigarette in that amount of time...

cheech_wizard's picture

I take it you presume I already have the cigarette in my mouth and the lighter in my hand?

Now you're the one sounding retarded. I don't have to fish the lighter out of my pocket, or the cigarettes for that matter? I don't have to open the pack and get one out? What if the side of the plane has suddenly been ripped wide open at 33,000 feet? Damn.

BraveSirRobin's picture

"TUC time 20 to 30 seconds...I can't even light a cigarette in that amount of time..."

Again, the aircraft was not going over 1,000 MPH. Please do your math.

cheech_wizard's picture

I think you're confused over the definition of TUC. It's the altitude, not the speed.