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"The Nightmare Scenario Is Around The Corner... Ebola Is The World's Next AIDS"
If there is one thing that is becoming clear in the last few weeks, it is the divergence of opinion between a 'nothing-to-see-here-move-along' government and the 'not-afraid-to-say-it-like-it-is' people actually dealing with the Ebola outbreak. Today, that divergence became utterly chasmic as President Obama opined:
*OBAMA REITERATES CHANCE OF EBOLA OUTBREAK IN U.S. EXTREMELY LOW
Followed by CDC Director Frieden's perspective that:
"I've been working in public health for 30 years... The only thing like this has been AIDS. And we have to work now so that this is not the world's next AIDS."
and then none other than SOUTHCOM Commander, Marine Gen. John F. Kelly warns that:
"The nightmare scenario, I think, is right around the corner."
So whose truth do you choose to believe?
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Here's President Obama...
"Ebola is not easily transmitted... we are containing it... the chances of an Ebola outbreak here in the United States are extremely low... we've been taking the necessary precautions so that someone with the virus does not get on a plane to the United States..."
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Here's CDC Director Thomas Frieden... (via The Hill)
Ebola poses a threat equivalent to AIDS and will become just as deadly without further action, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Tom Frieden said Thursday.
The remark is part of a marked increase in the intensity of warnings about Ebola from Frieden, the Obama administration's point man in communicating to the public about the virus.
"I've been working in public health for 30 years," Frieden told a World Bank and International Monetary Fund meeting in Washington.
"The only thing like this has been AIDS. And we have to work now so that this is not the world's next AIDS," Frieden said.
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Here's the head of U.S. Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) Marine Gen. John F. Kelly... (via USNI)
“If it comes to the Western Hemisphere, the countries that we’re talking about have almost no ability to deal with it — particularly in Haiti and Central America,” SOUTHCOM Commander, Marine Gen. John F. Kelly, said in response to a question of his near term concerns in the region.
“It will make the 68,000 unaccompanied minors look like a small problem.”
An Ebola outbreak could encourage the poor and increasingly desperate populations in Central American countries — like Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador — to leave in droves.
“I think you’ve seen this so many times in the past, when in doubt, take off,” he said.
Though an ocean away from Ebola hotspots in Africa, a growing numbers of West Africans are using the illicit trafficking routes through Central America to enter the U.S. illegally and could introduce the disease in the U.S.
Kelly stressed through out the panel session at NDU how effective the criminal transportation networks were at moving people and material into the U.S.
“We see a lot of West Africans moving in that network,” he said.
Kelly passed on a story from a border checkpoint in Costa Rica — told to him by an American embassy official — in which five or six men from Liberia were waiting to cross into Nicaragua.
The group had flown into Trinidad and then traveled to Costa Rica hoping to travel up the Central American isthmus and into the U.S.
Given the length of the journey, “they could have been in New York City well within the incubation period for Ebola,” Kelly said.
The realities of a potential outbreak caused Kelly to ask his staff to start thinking about the affects to the SOUTHCOM area of operations (AO) and pay attention to the response of U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM).
The U.S. has sent 4,000 troops to West Africa to assist countries in dealing with the Ebola outbreaks in the region.
“The five services of the U.S. military will get it done and be a large solution to this problem,” Kelly said.
In the meantime, SOUTHCOM is regular contact with AFRICOM in the event of the worst-case outcome.
“We’re watching what AFRICOM is doing and their plan will be our plan,” Kelly said. “The nightmare scenario, I think, is right around the corner.”
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Truth... You decide?
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This will be awesome cover for an economic collapse. It's like a winter storm that lasts 24/7/365, excuses galore for poor sales of just about anything but disinfectant.
Companies can blame Ebola.
When Ebola goes into the 100,000s infected in the US who and their right mind would want to eat out or go to a restaurant or a movie, airplane, etc?
Workers will just have to say screw it, their not paying me enough to die.
That and so much more.
Think about it.
The vaccine will end up requiring annual boosters.
Depopulation of resource rich Africa, along with crowded and problematic areas such as Gaza.
Increased reliance on the government for...well...everything.
Et cetera and so forth.
and built-in cover to escort anyone away from their home under armed guard, with returning them being completely optional.
It's seriously probably one of the best single covers that's in existence. But you do need a certain minimum number of actually sick people. And people shooting at workers in HAZMAT suits sent to "help" them might be a little hard to explain.
HH, you have Gaza and Africa. Why limit yourself. The potential list is long. They are working on climbing inside and taking the wheel with nano technology that might be designed to say ... take a little off the top of your hypocampus, so you can be more socially mallable. Vaccines could have "additives" based on location, demographics, and of course genome. Fielding Melish just said Trust is gone.
"If you like your insurance you can keep it" - You get kicked off your plan
"If you like your doctors you can keep him/her" - Your doctor doesnt take your new "obama insurance".
"I will bring the troops home" - Sends troops to "fight" ebola and invade countries
"The economy is recovering" - Businesses over 9 decades old are closing down all around me.
"Global warming is real" - Its freaking snowing in some places and it aint even Halloween yet.
"The chance of an Ebola outbreak is very low" - Im already building a bunker, fuck this shit I see the trend.
Dont be stupid Obola is coming, prepare.
Can anyone give me an obama quote that wasnt a lie? that doesn't involve him playing golf or anything he did on vacation? Instead of listing his lies, it might juse be quicker to actually list the things he didnt lie about .... ebola will just endup as another lie on a list.
Close enough:
Mikechelle said "Barack will change your life."
Sho as shit done that now han't he?
OK, here's your list of Obama's non-lies :
The quote about how he wants to fundamentally transform America
was not a lie. He does want to, he is doing so, and now we are facing death by Ebola because he thinks it's not fair to not let Africans to show up here looking for help that we do not owe them and they have no moral right to risk our lives to help them when the odds are slim to none..
He's pretty upfront about his goals, I'll give him that.
Those multi-day lockdows we saw in Sierra Leone? Coming here--guaranteed.
AIDs took a log longer. Ebola is more contagious, hence the reason for the suits.
Bad comparison.
You said log. Unintentionally correct?
If Obama is sure Ebola is hard to catch why doesn't he go for photo ops to prove that he stands behind what he says. If Obama shakes the hands of all the Ebola patients in an Ebola ward, in western Africa, I will believe him that Ebola is hard to catch.
Are there any golf courses in western Africa?
He should send Michael -I mean Michelle- into Ebola wards to care and comfort the sick. That would mean an awful lot to the hundreds of West Africans now being smuggled along the border of Mexico into the U.S. Wait until Ebola is introduced into Honduras and Guatamala - then we'll see the real hordes flooding across the border. That's coming soon. Obama won't care -survivors will all be future Democrat voters. I wondewr if anyone is having second thoughts about sponsoring coups there to replace them with fascist elitist frinds of the US.
Is that like they have enough time to vote once before succumbing to ebola? The only real problem here is that Obomao thought for sure he was just going to skate out of office and leave the Real problems to the next president; that he could stir the pot long enough to Get Out While The Getting Is Good! Then on to selling state secrets around the wolrd and scr@wing as many women as possible (overseas ones where they don't talk if they know what is good for them).
Now the soms a beeches have screwedit all up; could the dang disease not have waited just a few more months>
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Golf, Anyone? Obummer?
Trust. Is. Gone.
It always was a confidence game.
Ebola may be when people realize Wiley is off the edge of the cliff.
Manufactured fear. I doubt hightly TPTB would release a deadly contagion without having an exit. Wait a minute...
Yeah, so for me today this site lost a lot of credibility re the kicking to the curb of Fonzannoon.
I'm not gonna post a shit sandwich 20 times or anything and I am not gonna personally challenge the Tylers < hey, I am a newbie here >
The only thing I am going to say ....
ZeroHedge for me today made me stop and ponder. Why did I take the leap and join when I'd have clearly been better off flying under the radar.
The answer is: I felt a certain sense of comraderie with the members of ZeroHedge.
That died today.
HIS NAME WAS FONZANNOON
Fonz got banned?
yes. check out the article about ebola around 10 am or so.
scroll thru to about page 3 on the comments and look for DrEngali.
EDIT: and then check out several of the following articles to see the comments posted.
Why'd they kick off Fonz? Was he fuckin with WB7 again?
apparently this morning on the Ferguson post he made a comment < I never saw it, it was cleansed > the Tylers felt didn't adher to their 'racial discrimination' policy.
He and WB7 got into it in late August and he didn't post for a while. It was good to see him back and then this happens. I see ill racial shit posted all the time. Meh. It's the internet. He can comeback. I've thought of having my handle deleted and starting fresh. I try not to go racial or anti-cheese pope. I think shithead is as shithead does. If it makes tall feel better, being PC will kill folks from Ebola.
I did not know of the drama between him and WB7.
I did notice he was absent from the comments late this summer.
And I agree with you re 'handles' I think francis is already back amongnst us.
I don't think Fonz will be back.
Call it intuition.
#FREEFrancisSawyer
"I try not to go racial or anti-cheese pope."
It is odd how a site that spends so much time pointing out the lack of freedom in the United States practices a policy that limits freedom of speech.
I have a feeling that if the Federal government censored people for posting racial or ethnic topics then ZH would be quick to point out the hypocrisy of the situation; yet when ZH does the same, somehow it is different?
Will this comment get me banned as well?
As a former moderator of a political site, I can assure you that banning posters because of their views only serves to draw attention to their views.
People should be banned for offensive, disruptive behavior - not unpopular opinions. Fonestar was properly banned because his posts were disruptive, repetitive and devoid of value.
Fonz was none of the above. While I did not always agree with him, we are worse off for his absence.
Fuckin A, man! Damn right! They put up articles about the spreading fascism, and they turn around and practice the same thing.
His name was Fonzannoon
They are not hosted in the US. They had to leave the US because they were getting hassled. I can talk and want freedom of speech till I am blue in the face. The hosting country that has this website does not allow for "hatespeech."
I am not going to blame the Tylers for that. If anything they are rather lax with enforcemtent.
Fonz is a good guy (at least this is my impression) though. That does feel wrong to ban him. I guess I would need to see the posts to judge.
But a lot of racial opinions get aired that shock me. Can't see Fonz being worse...
Can't stand it when people get censored for expressing an opinion, no matter how "offensive". Let the comment stand on its own legs and if it's batshit stupid then someone else in the audience will do a fine job flaming it into a corner of social humiliation. If not, well maybe there's something to it that should be getting discussed.
Fonz is not a racist or a bigot, and it was not a bigoted post. That is not what is going on here. He was banned because of his views about QE, and whether the Fed has complete control of rates. I know that will sound incredible, but it is true.
Have heard a few people say that now.
MsCreant has it right, Mediocritas. If you host in europe, there are laws about discrimination that have to be respected
MsCreant has it also right about ZH's enforcement of those laws, which are - if you study them - not really hindering you to say anything you want, while making limitations on "how" you say them
I could make here a few perfectly genteel examples on how, but I seriously don't want to encourage any proliferation on them
on the other side, I've been staying away from all Ferguson or other specific US culture articles and threads. outside of them, I've never noticed fonz making any remarks that would justify any ban
fonz, come back with a new login, please? I'm quite sure we'll recognize you by the discussions you left open
Hate crime laws....If you don't like them....too bad goyim
What folks are missing on this thread is that the Tylers need to obey the laws or cease to exist. Does not matter what they think. End of it.
Bitch all you want.
I personally want to see all points of view, even if they offend or if I don't agree. But this ain't about that.
It would take only a few hundred thousand US cases to overwhelm the health care system. Does anyone here anticipate seeing piles of bodies being burned outside of hospitals or the dead lying in the streets, or maybe the multitudes dying in their homes?
I believe that it was Dr Ali khan who coined the term 'the chain of death' because it reliably affected the healthcare workers who had the most contact with the patients. In Africa without modern protective gear that meant the family. If America has ebola patient overload then it will be families who pickup the slack. I believe that America can sucessfully quarantine it and stop it. Nigeria did.
I think we would be better off if aids was like ebola. You get it, you die pretty quick probably. Cheap, easy to deal with the 'patients' afterwards. Not dilly dallying around slowly killing 110 million people
So, you would make it
the Kiss of Death, would you?
Dude, that's unspeakably grim.
So many aware of so many of their lies, and yet they still believe them on Ebola.
I'm going to go shoot some pool now with Adam Lanza and the Tsarnaev brothers and discuss the free fall collapse of fire damaged steel buildings while we all sing Cheryl Lynn's Got to Be Real. Robbie Parker might even show if he's still not grieving too much.
An American, not US subject.
"Some live between the barn and fences and consider themselves 'free.' Others jump the fences, and are free."
from https://www.aarc.org/resources/biological/history.asp:
"During the siege of the city-state of Athens by the Spartans in the Peloponnesian War a devastating epidemic broke out which killed thousands of Athenians. The famous historian Thucydides, writing between 431 B.C. and 404 B.C. reported, "it was supposed that Sparta poisoned the wells."2 Even though Sparta won the Peloponnesian War, its reputation was destroyed. This may be the first reason that biowarfare agents have not been employed except in isolation and then by rogue states. Excellent propaganda then and now casts a shadow of guilt that can obscure the science. Interest in the Peloponnesian War persists until this day. A New York Times article (Sunday, August 18, 1996) suggested that the "plague of Athens" during the Peloponnesian War was Ebola.3 The article suggests that Athenian reinforcements from Africa carried the virus to the city-state. Even this is unlikely given the slow transportation from Africa and the incubation period of the Ebola virus. Of course the reinforcements may have brought a regimental pet, an African Green Monkey. The Green Monkey is the reservoir for the Marlburg virus, a close relative of the Ebola virus. It may never be known what the causative organism of the epidemic was."
1996 article New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/08/18/weekinreview/was-the-plague-of-athens-...
Biowarfare play?
@ Chump666:
With all due respect, I know you had an insane work to copy and paste your comment and would like to add a few little things.
In the 1970s, loggers and miners in the 1980s, when they found Indian tribes in the Amazon sent an unhappy person with tuberculosis to talk with the Indians.
Whole tribes were wiped out in this way.
The Romans played through lepers catapults on the walls of fortified cities or sent infected with fleas and pests asking for money on the streets.
Fucked many cities like this, many contaminated wells.
Read the Old Testament and in the Quran hygiene rules, you will have another prism of ancient religions.
Were much more demanding and clean with regard to contamination, they knew the shit that can generate a community, a village.
:-)
I have a pair of most excellent African Green Monkeys that - for some reason - have not drawn the bidding I hoped for on Ebay. Curious.... Perhaps I'll rebrand them as cute, furry community organizers!
It has nothing to do!
AIDS killed fags and drug users in three months to a year from the contamination.
Some even lasted longer.
Ebola kills in 21 days, democratically.
Not depends on your social status.
That's what gives delete history as raw materials in educational curricula.
The morons in Washington DC did not know what was the black plague much less the Spanish flu.
A few more months and it will be every man for themselves and their family.
Forget the government, they also have a family to protect.
: - /
Heterosexuals not on drugs got AIDS too.
AIDS was mostly spread by anal sex (magnified by promiscuity) because unlike the vagina the skin is thinner and tears allowing infected semen directly into the blood stream. They didn't want to admit that for PC reasons because the PC line is all sex is the same.
(nb I don't care what people do in bed but TPTB should tell the truth about relative risks so people don't make deliberately misinformed choices.)
It also has to do with adhesion molecules in the rectum, notably LPAM (alpha 4 beta 7 integrin), that allow and facilitate HIV to stick and invade rectal cells. http://www.nature.com/ni/journal/v9/n3/full/ni1566.html
Well, I will clarify:
1 I do not vote for myself.
2 I do not vote my comments above, just below.
3 I believe that there are two fagots who disliked what I have called by name.
4 I assimilated a disease, syndrome cow that consists of - walking and shit - for what others think of my comments Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!
Much worse than AIDS because any little kid can get it.
They can get it from a door knob or an Uncle or Mum or Dad or Grandma.
They can get it from their teacher, a cop, a fireman, their neighbor.
Much more opportunistic and random virus than AIDS.
And yet we let the infected stream in.
Absolute fucking stupidity.
Criminal negligence.
Genocide.
With a better than 60% chance of dying a horrific death where the CDC insist on cremation.
If Ebola is hard to get then why is cremation pushed immediately?
Who wants to risk it.
Ebola is more like the Black Death ,
AIDS is benign by comparison .
https://www.academia.edu/8713304/Ebola_and_Insurance
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2005/08/black-death.html
There is a merciful lilmit :
https://www.academia.edu/8714827/Hayflick_Limit_Calculation
Fortunately - and this is a stretch with optimism being not the most sane point of view - Ebola is so far airborne human to human contact. The birds, bees, pigs, dogs, cats, rats, mosquitos and fleas do not carry it - we think and hope.
The Black Plague was carried by fleas on rodents, so it could kill all the humans and still have a place to live.
Ebola is not independent of humans. We think. So far. Fingers crossed.
You doomers want to see what those apocalypse films look like in reality? It's coming, it's not going to be funny, and it's going to be something no one wants to see.
Dogs can and may carry Ebola
Have not seen more than proof of infection however.
Wonder how long it takes for Ebola to kill a dog. Anyone? A Spaniard perhaps?
Data, is that you?
We certainly can not secure the borders. Every politician in the last 30 years had said that's impossible.
Bleeding from the eyes is sooooooooooooooo unattractive.
I'm hungry.
Bat sandwich? Bat-on-a-stick? Bat-in-a-basket? Kentucky Fried Bat? Bat Burger? Bat soup? ...
Batshit ?
As in batshit crazy.
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/08/09/us-military-ebola-outbreak/
US Military? (USMRIID) vote up
Nature? vote down
I mentioned AIDS yesterday and I got ripped a new one.
LOL!
Back in the day GAY was seen as an acronym for 'Got AIDS yet?' We will need a snappy new acronym for ebola.
Elites be offing lazy asses?
You mean ebola is another fake virus invented to garner billions in government research grants? Cos that's what AIDS is right?
Has anyone directly seen AIDS yet?
http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/10/09/dept-of-defense-ebola-manua...
Aids? Really...the good dr. if he is a dr. must have a batch of queer butt buddys. Wait until they get ebola. Lying fag jew will be abel to tell the difference then.
The problem with technocrats is the faith they put in experts.
This reminds me of the kindof shit you hear about nuclear power plants and how they can never, ever fail and how every scenario has been thought of.
Then we have exhibit A: Fukushima.
Arrest Obola for treason or die M'Fers.
You will die, regardless.
In a long enough timeline...
Australian nurse tested for Ebola returned negative. But now it appears there has been another health worker that has been under 'observation' in NSW without a peep from the media.
Some pearls of wisdom from the State's Health Authority:
"Dr Young said authorities were speaking with Ms Kovack's male housemate, but he would not be placed under any restrictions or require tests.
Dr Young said Ms Kovack was 10 days into the 21-day incubation period for Ebola.
She recently returned to Cairns from Sierra Leone via Morocco, Perth and Melbourne.
Dr Young said it was "clear in my mind" that Ms Kovack did not put people at risk.
"For this particular disease home quarantine is sufficient," she said."
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/ebola-scare-cairns-nurse-tests-negative-20141010-113zk7.html
Magic Johnson much prefers Aids to Ebola.
The Spanish nurse is worsening, and will likely die. Panic worsening in Spain. Health care workers refusing to go to work at the hospital.
This is an inflection point.
Spain Ebola patient Teresa Romero at ‘serious risk’ of dying
GRAHAM KEELEY THE TIMES OCTOBER 10, 2014 12:06PM
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THE SPANISH nurse who is the first person to catch Ebola outside Africa was critically ill last night as terrified medical staff refused to treat patients with the virus.
Teresa Romero, 44, helped to treat two Spanish missionaries returning from west Africa. Both died, and on Monday she tested positive for the virus. She is now in isolation at Carlos III hospital in Madrid.
Ignacio Gonzalez, the head of the Madrid regional government, said that Ms Romero was “very ill and her life is at serious risk as a result of the virus”. Her brother, Jose Ramon Romero, said: “We don’t have great hopes for her.” Spanish media reported that she had respiratory failure.
Fear spread among staff at the hospital, with some refusing to treat seven people who are on an isolation ward because they came into contact with Ms Romero. A total of 84 people are under observation in Madrid.
The health authorities said that they would not force staff to treat Ebola patients, and extra staff were being drafted in.
As pressure mounted on the government over its handling of the crisis, a doctor who cared for Ms Romero wrote a report detailing blunders in her treatment. Juan Manuel Parra treated the nurse when she went to her local hospital in Alcorcon, southwest Madrid, complaining of a fever on Monday. Dr Parra was the only doctor on emergency duty.
From 8am until after midnight, he looked after Ms Romero, who had diarrhoea and was vomiting and coughing. He said that he had to put on and remove a protective suit 13 times while treating other patients.
It was not until 5pm that he wore a full protective suit but it was too small, leaving his wrists exposed.
Dr Parra said that Ms Romero was brought into the hospital in a conventional ambulance and staff wore no protection. “From the moment I took the decision to take on the patient and take charge of the situation, I was the only doctor who looked after her while she was here, accompanied by nursing staff when I visited her room,” he wrote.
She was isolated from other patients by a curtain and two pieces of tape. With her condition worsening, she was eventually transferred to the Carlos III hospital.
Dr Parra found out in the media that she had tested positive for ebola. He, another doctor and two workers admitted themselves to quarantine.
Spain acknowleged to the European Union that Ms Romero may have become infected because of the “possible relaxation of security measures during the movement of the body of [a Spanish missionary ] or the disposal of waste material”.
Mariano Rajoy, the prime minister, has resisted calls to sack Ana Mato, the health minister.
Ms Romero fell ill on September 30, but was not admitted to hospital untila week later, raising fears that others may have been exposed. She said that she might have caught the virus after touching her face with a glove after cleaning the room of a dead missionary. Javier Rodriguez, of the Madrid health authority, accused her of lying by failing to say that she had treated Ebola patients.
Dr Parra is a saint but it may cost him, his life. That's why, if TSHTF, we're on our own.
In the interest of self preservation, there won't be many doctors and nurses who stick it out. I don't know if I would be brave enough to stay. Would you stay?
And yet another ...
Macedonia says it is checking for the Ebola virus in a British man who died within hours of being admitted to hospital in the capital Skopje.
Authorities said they had sealed off the hotel where he stayed, isolating another Briton and hotel staff inside.
A Health Ministry official said the man had arrived in the capital Skopje from Britain on October 2 and had been rushed to hospital at 3:00pm local time on Thursday, where he died several hours later.
Dr Jovanka Kostovska of the ministry's Commission for Infectious Diseases said the man had been suffering from fever, vomiting and internal bleeding, and that his condition deteriorated rapidly.
"These are all symptoms of Ebola, which raises suspicions with this patient," Dr Kostovska told a news conference.
All this AFTER the man died and now the significant other and hotel staff are trapped like rats in the infected hotel.
How grand.
To contain this plague they have to pay ebola care specialists more than they are worth and give them better equipment than they need. Or they need robots and a joystick.
The most compassionate members of our society, the care givers.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29564339
To equate Ebola to Aids is a fucking joke.
With Aids, a person has to fuck someone who has Aids or get a blood transfusion from someone who has Aids. With Aids, the method of transmission is extremely limited and mostly known. With Ebola, the method of transmission is still mostly unknown. However, we do know that Ebola can be transmitted without any sort of sexual activity. In addition to other transmission pathways, it is probably contracted through aerosolized particles of infected bodily fluids. We have people in random regions of the world who have contracted Ebola, and we still don't know how the fuck that happened. Ebola also has a lethality rate that is notably higher than that of Aids. Additionally, Ebola kills within days as opposed to months or years. Lastly, there is no effective treatment for Ebola. If you are not frightened yet, you should be. This has the potential to decimate massive swaths of the population if a real, unmitigated outbreak occurs in populated regions.
"To equate Ebola to Aids is a fucking joke. With Aids, a person has to fuck someone who has Aids or get a blood transfusion from someone who has Aids."
The similarities are 1) the source region and 2) that the *response* is constrained by PC.
If the source was heterosexual blond people from Iceland there'd be quarantine already.
EBOLAIDS!
..AIDS?.....EBOLA?.......its all about bleeding assholes....
BACK TO YOUR NORMAL PROGRAMMING PEASANTZ !!!
lol, why does it always come down to bleeding assholes?
Obamma has unleashed/legalized Homosexuality & Drug Abuse on the planet Earth.
Nature has unleashed Ebola on humankind.
We are all gonna die, shed tears of blood, zombies everywhere.
We are all gonna die, shed tears of blood, zombies everywhere.
We are all gonna die, shed tears of blood, zombies everywhere.
We are all gonna die, shed tears of blood, zombies everywhere.
We are all gonna die, shed tears of blood, zombies everywhere.
We are all gonna die, shed tears of blood, zombies everywhere.
We are all gonna die, shed tears of blood, zombies everywhere.
We are all gonna die, shed tears of blood, zombies everywhere.
We are all gonna die, shed tears of blood, zombies everywhere.
We are all gonna die, shed tears of blood, zombies everywhere.
We are all gonna die, shed tears of blood, zombies everywhere.
You're probably the guy the teacher made write over and over on the blackboard after school;
I will not be a dumbass, I will not fuck up.
Didn't work.
There's a pretty big difference between AIDS and Ebola.... ie... one is a slow burner so allows for wider infection rate vs the quick burner that has high infection rate, but burns itself out once its fuel is gone.
Yes, it is much easier to contain Ebola in a western country which is why we will not have any major outbreak, African countries much harder once infection gets to a particular velocity.
So in the west we will have small clusters as a person who gets sick overseas gets to the US or other western country for medical treatment, that being there only hope for survival or unwittingly brings Ebola into the country, but no major epidemic.
No major epidemic ...
Until someone arrives alone in a major city on the edge of showing severe symptoms, gets more and more sick, perhaps riding the subway because of no place else to go.
And then they die, alone and on a street corner, or in a strip joint, or are found in an alleyway in New York City, New Orleans, or Little Havana ???
Then there will be justifiable panic when an unknown corpse turns out to be full of Ebola.
And a major epidemic is born.
You make a good case for what is a worst case scenario and I can't counter that scenario, it is a very real possibility, but I remember what was being said when AIDS first came on the scene and then it was considered so very dangerous because of the long period of time a person could carry it without knowing. Many people believed it was the end of the humanity at the time, I have confidence that while this may get out of control in Africa, western countries will cope without a major epidemic.
What will be far worse and more likely is the number of deaths that occur through panic in western countries, shutting down the economy,, power, water generation and the health system, fear and panic are the real enemy at the moment.,
Not AIDs.... this would more resemble Smallpox. HIV much harder to catch than Ebola or Smallpox
AIDS can easily be prevnted; Ebola cannot.
Great. I'm gonna die and I'm not even going to get my dick wet.
Missed out totally in the 80's, too!
Sucks to be me.
FF to call on a martial law and front run the stocks crash?
Ebola and Elections ...
This just in
Monrovia (AFP) - Ebola-hit Liberia has suspended nationwide elections in the latest measure to combat an epidemic which has shut down society in three west African nations, restricting travel and forcing the cancellation of public events.
Almost three million voters had been due to take part in Senate polls on Tuesday but organisers said there was no way a "mass movement, deployment and gathering of people" could go ahead without endangering lives.
President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf was exercising powers under a state of emergency announced in August "to suspend... any and all rights ordinarily exercised, enjoyed and guaranteed to citizens," the foreign office said in a statement issued late Wednesday, quoting a presidential proclamation.
Liberia, which has seen more than half of the almost 4,000 deaths so far in the outbreak ravaging west Africa, had been due to elect half of its legislative upper chamber.
Ron Paul, on the Daily Paul, says Ebola is to force us to take vaccines.
If Obola says it's a 20% chance, then it's a 20% chance. Leader of the Free Shit World!
It's a pity that this nurse is so sick. If she survives, she would be immune, and could be very helpful in working with sick people without fearing contagion.
All people who survive Ebola in a decent way should be given a course and enlisted to work with Ebola sick people.
In Italy during the old plagues these people were called "monatti": http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/monatto (I was not able to find an English name for them) and helped to cointain the plague.
Gonna be hard to find people who want to go back and work around sick Ebola people, even kindly "immune" lay people who've recovered from it.
And the way this thing is transmitted means they'd still be dragging virus in/out of the ICUs and spreading it back to their homes and communities. The fewer the people using up $1800 hazmat suits, the better. Nice thought though.
But you bring up a good point about people who "survive Ebola in a decent way". That is an excellent point. I'm not sure we know how much permanent damage can/will result from surviving Ebola.
For example, how many are going to have permanent kidney damage and need dialysis for a lifetime? How many are going to have a hemorrhagic brain event and have permanent brain damage? How many are going to have liver damage, or go blind secondary to hemorrhagic eye damage?
Right now they're telling us the percentage that are surviving, but they're not telling us what shape they're inafterwards.
Update: permanent damage after recovering from Ebola is not reported to be severe. Some blindness and other problems can occur but not widely reported outside prolonged severe cases.
Those stats may change though, as modern intensive care for Ebola victims save more of the most severe and prolonged cases. Death usually occurs from multiple organ failure due to the internal bleeding and kidney failure.
CENTCOM: "Ebola could be the new AIDS. Shall we halt flights from Africa until things simmer down?"
Obola: "No. In fact, I want more flights from Africa, with less screening, and, 3,000 solidiers immediately deployed to Liberia."
CENTCOM: "But sir, what you're proposing could cause a major outbreak here in the United States."
Obola: "And your point is...?"
CENTOM: "--"
I'll be flying back to CA in a few hours. On the 5th I flew from CA to RI/CT, then spent the past couple of days at Yale New Haven Hospital.
SFO and Dulles were jammed full of people, plenty of them coughing and gagging. It is always hard to tell if fewer people are flying, since they close off parts of the airport and that distorts appearances.
At the hospital, the atmosphere was different from when I was there about six weeks ago, and about three months ago. People seemed way more distracted; they were not paying attention in the same way; it was a very clear change. The nurses, for instance (who are smart and talented), were not processing information well; they were screwing up lists of meds;it was striking. My mom noticed it too.
It could be the thought of Ebola. The other thing, which we were told directly about, is the huge hit that the hospital is taking due to the in/out patient distinction newly being enforced in Medicare billing.
ebola, those of us in healthcare, who have a clue, know something is not right with .gov actions almost 180 degrees off - we are all holding our breath waiting for what could be really bad news of new cases..as for hospitals and medicine in USA..the public has no idea what obuma care is about and how bad rationed heath care will be- billions moved from n homes and hospitals into ins co pockets.
Obola: "I believe in equality for everyone. This includes disease equality. Therefore, I won't rest until just as many Americans are sick as the Liberians.
CENTCOM: "--"
dac racist...
The gummint might have actually done something right for a change--what's the best way to keep thousands of people with ebola from flocking to America to take advantage of the "best medical care system in the world"? Let one of them die. If they had saved Duncan, the borders would be flooded.
Brazil got its first case of ebola. The 47 year old guy from Africa has high fever and will be transported to a high security epidemiological facility out of the state he is in now. A military plane will be used.
Suspected, not yet confirmed, unless you have more current info.
We know it infects pigs but they get over it, same with dogs... carry it and are infectious but survive... not sure about cows or chickens... but what happens when this gets into the industrialized farm system? No more meat for a while? Do they spread it in the meat for a few weeks until someone notices? Whatever happens if it hits the mass meat market it sounds like trouble.
+100. The animals would need to be euthanized and incinerated. It seems like everything about this disease has the power to ruin the world economy and permanently change the way we live. So simple, 7 nucleotide sequences, and it is transforming our world. https://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Ebola_Virus_NEU2011
Disease containment team board plane after black guy sneezes and jokes: 'I have ebola, you are all screwed!'
Put him in quarantine for 6 months on Rikers Island and see how funny he finds that.
Yes, bull crap like that should be considered a "terrorist threat" ya know, like joking about a bomb in the TSA waiting line!
ebola = global economic depression
they ran out of zmap... why not make some more
wouldn't a "leader" take emergency measures and task the pharma industry to pay royalties and make the fucking stuff....???
but then again this is just another facet of the lazy commie muzzie and his plan to destroy amerika...
more food stamps and welfare please..... thank you sir...
remember the good old days when the ussa used to medically examine prospective immigrants and QUARRANTINE those sick...ELLIS ISLAND ... perhaps the asshole in the white house and his family ought to be blessed with the virus....
what about the other polio like virus that has crippled kids coming in from down south.... the useless scumbag in chief could care less. it's not his kids... you know like treyvon and the thug fuck in ferguson.. and every other useless fringe douchebag he favors and caters to...
first order of biz after nov IMPEACH THIS BAG OF SHIT and ram some meaningful legislation right up slow joe's ass. and straighten this fubar fuckfest out.. politically , socially and economically.
close the borders
cutback on welfare
lower taxes
finish isis and go after the leaders and their families and remove their dna from the planet...
finish off the iranian nuke plants...
export illegals
flush the toilet and disband useless gov agencies
audit the fed
vote out the ruling class across the board...
deport the Clintoons and their spawn...
open obumbler's records to see what the media covered up..
prosecute holder and obama for treason
execute the remaining gitmo detainees, after due process... starting with KSM on public tv...
execute the ft hood piece of shit on public tv..
track down the 5 obama released and off them..
prosecute the ragheads funding terrorism
drill like a muthfukka and become totally energy independent...
court marshal the deserter bergdahl...
reveal the truth about fast and furious, benghazi, irs and all the other obama crimes..
go after the solyndra crooks
review the fed motivs and acitons inthe bailout and go for recovering taxpayer funds...
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"Brazil Reports First Suspected Case of Ebola Virus"
http://online.wsj.com/articles/brazil-reports-first-suspected-case-of-eb...
"Ebola: Paris authorities investigate 'probable' case"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ebola-outbreak-paris-auth...
"Madrid hospital staff quit over Ebola fears"
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/10/madrid-hospital-staff-quit-...
"Fears of global Ebola outbreak spread across continents"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/ebola/11152811/Fears-of-global...
SURPRISE! "Leading global health experts did not anticipate the scale of the Ebola outbreak, a senior health official has told the BBC"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-29565145
The nightmare is already here => Lyme disease
All this temp taking is bullshit, because a person can have the virus what-10-21 days before showing symptoms (like fever) more than enough time to be out in public befoe (and then after) becoming contagious.
BTW, this Freiden dude was public health director for Bloomturd in NYC (restricting salt and Big Gulps) before landing this gig at CDC.
Yes, temperature taking is just to make you feel safe, anyone with a temperature could just take Ibuprofen to drive it down. If a person felt that there only chance of survival was getting on a plane and to a western country. direct flights from Africa need to be stopped now, nobody in who has not spent 30 days in another country after leaving Africa.
I remember what was being said when AIDS first came on the scene and then it was considered so very dangerous because of the long period of time a person could carry it without knowing. Many people believed it was the end of the humanity. I have confidence that while this may get out of control in Africa, western countries will cope without a major epidemic although far more rigorous containment processes must be implemented than we are doing currently.
What will be far worse and more likely is the number of deaths that occur through panic in western countries, shutting down the economy, power, water and the health system, fear and panic are the real enemy.
[x] Create a giant dysfunctional homeland security that is run by the government
[x] Create a giant dysfunctional health system that is run by the government
[x] Leave immigration to the US from certain countries completely unchecked by said homeland security
[x] Tell the American people they have nothing to worry about from one of the worlds most deadly viruses with said government health care
[x] Allow people from the outbreak countries to fly into other countries freely - possibly scan them but only when they get here
[x] Maintain your sheep (FSA and company) by simply telling them that you're "on this" despite all actions to the contrary[[
[ ] Mission accomplished
hmm.....flew 89,000 miles last year....never once worried about catching AIDS from a fellow passenger.
yes, but the situation was different in the 80's, we did not know what we know today.
Prez Obala will insure ebola comes to the USSA via his importing and distributing non-screened illegals to all over the Country.
in other news, (Dem) judges overturned a couple more State's voter id laws so to prevent honest elections ever coming to the USSA.
We know that if the illegals were people who were going to vote Repub instead of Dem, the Obola and Pelosi and Reid would have the USSA border fenced and manned with machine gun towers, guard dogs, mines and conduct air strikes on anything that looked to be trying to cross over.
The USSA has become corrupt and immoral due the the Dems, RINO's and the FSA.
Ebola is fang for "flu". Ebola is the flu, suckers.
I've got 4, 1-ounce Silver Walking Liberties that says Cannabis destroys Ebola after 3 days of smoking/consuming.
Any takers?
Mechanism?