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Is This Why Stocks Are Dumping?

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Because humor like this clearly costs money. As always, from the one and only Dennis Gartman.

October 6:

The well-defined upward sloping trend channel continues to remain fully intact and until that trend line is broken we have to once again err upon the side of being bullish of shares generally... Support levels have held and trends from the lower left to the upper right obtain. One may wish to join the bearish camp, but one would be wrong.

Stocks suffer biggest drop in 2 months shortly thereafter.

October 8:

If the Russell were to hold today and turn higher, then we might very seriously consider covering a portion of our derivatives; otherwise, we shall sit tight, remaining market neutral and fearing that indeed the bear market has begun and that rallies henceforth are to be sold rather than weakness bought.

Stocks surge by most in years shortly thereafter.

And then, first thing today:

Down 35 points one day; up 35 points the next! The Bulls were taken out and shot Tuesday; the Bears were shot yesterday and all we know for certain is that the upward sloping trend still holds and that weakness is to be bought with the Fed still behind the market.

As of this writing, stocks have wiped out half of yesterday's gains. And then this:

NEW RECOMMENDATION: We wish to return to the trade we were once involved in for a rather long while: long of the English speaking currencies/short of the Yen and we shall do so upon receipt of this commentary, buying US dollars, Canadian dollars, Aussie dollars, New Zealand dollars and Sterling relative to the Yen with two units of the latter vs. the proper dollar weighted sum of the other currencies. We shall have a stop on the trade in tomorrow’s TGL, but for now a loss of 1% would be sufficiently large.

It sure would, and with the Yen in dollar terms jumping to the highest level since September 16 this morning, the stop would have certainly been hit.

But the punchline:

Finally for those who care, we are up 7.1%, year-to-date, in our retirement funds here at TGL as of last night’s close.

Because virtually momentum trading one's 401(k) is the new killing it.

 

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Thu, 10/09/2014 - 10:53 | 5308587 Pool Shark
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The world's greatest contrary indicator,... in real time...

 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 10:57 | 5308621 SAT 800
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I would  think  the price chart is a better indicator; and you don't have to look at him; which is a plus.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:24 | 5308767 PAPA ROACH
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Will Gartman go bullish natgas now, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:33 | 5308813 rocker
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He pimped Coal again a few weeks back. As he says, if it hits the foot and hurts I own it. Hmmmm.

At least his holdings must be getting lighter. BTU on 52 Week low list again today.  HE HE HE

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 15:06 | 5310023 TruthInSunshine
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Dennis Fartman

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 22:11 | 5312204 BC6
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We,re short 2 units of AGQ and long 2 units of ZSL...

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 00:27 | 5312669 Richard Chesler
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Undercover Goldman scum.

 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 10:58 | 5308625 101 years and c...
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i think im signing up for the newsletter from Gartman.  real time contrarian calls are the best.  pay $30/month.  get a rec from the windbag and do the exact opposite.  youd make $30 in the first 30 seconds of receiving the newsletter.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:20 | 5308744 Atomizer
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Watching the bald headed asshole 'Jim Cramer' will yield you the same outcome. 

/sarc

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:42 | 5308842 therearetoomany...
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Well, Cramer is 'free'...

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 13:11 | 5309290 KnuckleDragger-X
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And loud....

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 10:59 | 5308629 Aknownymouse
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I didn't know that currencies speak languages

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:11 | 5308709 Ghordius
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oh, the comments I could make, here... (you just need to know that the EUR does not speak English as a first language)

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 10:59 | 5308631 TheBoyPlunger
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Funny how Gartman is silent about those coal stocks he was pumping all year...

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:01 | 5308640 SAT 800
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The Dow up-channeled down 127 pts. so far today. or up-chucked.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:16 | 5308727 Alea Iactaest
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The lack of follow-through on yesterday's rally should give market watchers pause. Of course it's still early and VWAP beckons. Besides, I feel so much better with headlines like these:

This is not a collapse, so buy the big trends
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-not-a-collapse-so-buy-the-big-t...

Leon Cooperman: Apple stock 20% undervalued
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102070646

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:43 | 5308848 rocker
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Good Ole Cooperman: "CNBC's greatest trader on earth".  Cramer said to buy SD @7.00 plus with Coops buy call. Now 3.85.

Coop said buy TCRD at over 17.00   Now @12.74 and dropping.   Leon is another buy my holdings pimper, so I can sell.

Just like Fast Money crew.  They do it all the time without disclosure.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:00 | 5308644 Bloppy
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It's the price of airtime on CNBC. Credibility be damned.

 

Also: Dem governor's fiance once "married" 18-year-old Ethiopian immigrant - http://tinyurl.com/lay6umx


Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:11 | 5308710 Canadian Dirtlump
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If BIll Gross' bowl cut is an avatar for power and (generally) prescient market analysis. The Hirsute double chin of Dennis Gartman represents the folly and misguided self assuredness.

 

They are like Schwarzenegger and DeVito in twins.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:18 | 5308739 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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"The world's greatest contrary indicator,... in real time..."

 

Still, I gotta give him props for naming, in plain language, the real reason all of these "sophisticated fiduciary stewards" continue to be involved in the markets:  The Fed will help us.  They have to.  We cannot lose.

 

People can accept this thesis or not as they choose and live with the results.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:40 | 5308831 therearetoomany...
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I thought that was Barron's

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 18:12 | 5311104 StychoKiller
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Kinda looks like a muppet, don't he?

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 10:53 | 5308588 OpTwoMistic
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Fool

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 10:54 | 5308592 eddiebe
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Well, he's right, so far.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 10:57 | 5308611 SAT 800
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No; he's not. go look at the chart for ES on the CME page. The ES, which is the S&P contract, is in a beautifully defined down channel.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 10:59 | 5308634 101 years and c...
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yeppers.  spx will test summer low and the 200ema.  both right near 1900.  which, coincidentally, could be the bottom of that trend channel you mentioned.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:03 | 5308654 DeadFred
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Years long up channel is coming into conflict with the weeks long down channel. One or the other will lose the battle. My bets are with the challenger but the old guy has lots of experience. We'll know soon enough.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 10:54 | 5308595 jubber
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beware any Draghi rampjob

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:21 | 5308736 spastic_colon
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very correct!  the central banks are in a major power grab and are trying their hardest to control investors thoughts by making everyone think they are in total control and they're all that matters.....draghi is not to be outdone!

 

these market dumps before a fed hed speaks are totally choreographed

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 10:54 | 5308600 aVileRat
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Just goes to show, the old addage holds true:

Those who can, do, those who can't teach & those who do neither report.

If you apply a rolling momentum indicator to the SPX and assumed you rolled forward that RMA data to next days trading, Dennis would have been up 11% YTD if he was just index trading; so the TGL is actually underperforming his benchmark of flip flopping with no day to day program.

Sad.

 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 10:55 | 5308605 kito
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HEY TYLER YOU FUCKING PUSSY!!!!! YOUR SITE HAS TURNED INTO A CLICK READ COMMENT FOR PROFIT MACHINE WITH NO SOUL. YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH BECAUSE IT HURTS SO MUCH TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A SHELL OF THE ORIGINAL ZH. YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN MSM. YOU CREATE ISSUES WHERE THERE ARE NONE, ALL FOR THE PURPOSE OF GAINING THE VIEWERSHIP OF POOR BELOW AVERAGE I.Q. GULLIBLE MALLEABLE SOULS. YOU CONTINUE TO LOSE THE FOLLOWING OF INTELLIGENT INSIGHTFUL COMMENTERS WHO GAVE YOU LIFE. NOW YOU JUST SUCK THE BLOOD OUT OF THE COMMENTS SECTION ALL FOR THE MIGHTY DOLLAR THAT YOU SO OFTEN MALIGN. YOU ARE A FUCKING HYPOCRITE!!!!

 

HIS NAME WAS FONZ!!!!!!

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:05 | 5308674 Pool Shark
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Did Fonz get banninated?

 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:14 | 5308720 NoDebt
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Yep, they brought out the big 'ol ban hammer on him.

His name was fonzannoon.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:18 | 5308741 Pool Shark
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So, what did he say that was any more offensive than anything else on ZH?

 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:26 | 5308775 NoDebt
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Prettty much what kito just said.  But perhaps that was too much after pointing out that there are plenty of instances where black cops shoot white suspects.  Whatever.  Says he's actually glad to be gone.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:43 | 5308855 Callz d Ballz
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Sucks, I enjoyed his posts.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 13:17 | 5309316 KnuckleDragger-X
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Truly one of the best members of the fight club....

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:07 | 5308684 papaswamp
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I'm only saying this because I care - there are a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market today that are just as tasty as the real thing.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:21 | 5308754 kito
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if you CARE then stick with the message, not the messenger.....

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 12:07 | 5308981 PT
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Time to create ZH 2.0?  Enough oldies should have left by now to make a decent new site. 

Where's Francis Sawyer?

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 17:53 | 5311013 Clowns on Acid
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Fonzannoon should have never been banned. Neither should have Francis Sawyer. Feelin' some heat Tyler (s) ? Wonder from where.....Hehe.. we all know....

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 13:14 | 5309302 moonshadow
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i believe ive been seeing that trend also

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 10:56 | 5308614 Raoul_Luke
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That never gets old!

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 10:59 | 5308630 Jahbulon
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Someone is gonna whack that clown sooner or later..............

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:00 | 5308636 Ness.
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The lows of the day have now been established.  BTFD.  

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:01 | 5308645 aliki
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just to be clear, he said he was short right before last weeks run-up, then said youd be crazy to be long before yesterday, now he's back to being a cheerleader. got it.

i don't get all the gartman-hate. this guy might have the single-hottest-hand on the planet right now (as a contrarian indicator)

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:06 | 5308686 Pool Shark
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We don't hate Gartman; we enjoy poking fun at him.

There's a difference between hate and heckling...

 

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:48 | 5308881 aliki
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i was jk pool shark (i shudda put the "" for hate)

that ones on me

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:06 | 5308677 Mi Naem
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"all we know for certain is that the upward sloping trend still holds and that weakness is to be bought with the Fed still behind the market.

I'm no Gartman fan, but that's been good advice, even a truism, since 3/2009. 

Until it isn't.  But, still...

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:06 | 5308681 Bell's 2 hearted
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wholesale inventories (august)

 

expected ... +0.3%

actual ... +0.7%

 

july inventories revised from ... +0.1% to +0.3%

july sales revised from +0.7% to +0.4%

august sales -0.7%

 

The Channel has been STUFFED

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:09 | 5308703 Yen Cross
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   Booyahhh... Gartman rings the cowbell.

   personally I think it's funny when Tyler posts Gartman predictions. It takes the monotony out of  central banks buying "calls" all day long, every day.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:16 | 5308731 Spungo
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I'll add my own fake technical analysis (I'm looking at a chart, not measuring anything, not drawing lines).
S&P is currently at 1955. I think it will drop to 1900. This would be a lower low than the 1910 mark hit on August 7, indicating the trend is flipping to form a downward trend. Then it will rebound to 1950 then drop to 1850. That's when the party starts. A second lower low will start large volume selling.

It's worth noting that technical analysis is based on human psychology. Computers do not think the way humans think, so I would assume many of the things that worked in 1920 will not work in 2014. If someone can nail down the way algos are programmed to think about the market, one would make a lot of money by guessing what the algos will do next.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:19 | 5308743 deeply indebted
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Doesn't this then beg the question, what happens when the Fed is not behind the market?

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:20 | 5309745 Funny Money
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Does it matter when they can't get out from behind it?

Mon, 10/13/2014 - 01:42 | 5323016 deeply indebted
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Good point.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:25 | 5308772 Everybodys All ...
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Stocks are likely dumping because Ebola is raging globally. Don't over think this one. Take a look at LAKE. Hazmat suit company. This is crazy. Obama is over his pay grade once again on this one. Community organizing communists just doesn't prepare one properly for pandemics do they?

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:26 | 5308781 1stepcloser
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Plus the teleprompter is on the blink...

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:26 | 5308780 juggalo1
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Whenever a talking head says he thinks the market is going up or down the host should track that information in an easily confirmable public spot.  The talking head can send in a verifiable update whenever he wants.  The host should call the talking head on it every time the market has moved against his published position. 

Of course no site would ever do that.  It would reveal their talking heads have no ability to predict where the market is going.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:40 | 5308833 Bubenthauser
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Dennis Fucking WHO? 7.1% ----- LOL, that's risible.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:52 | 5308905 SheepDog-One
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I wish Dennis would go ultra short gold!

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 11:56 | 5308928 Downtoolong
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No fair you're only supposed to read the Gartman quote that appeals to you
. he's got one for everybody.

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 12:40 | 5309101 Ghostdog
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I absolutley tip my hat

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:09 | 5309673 Funny Money
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My daily dose of comedy is ZH itself where the same people keep yapping about the impending crash while the Dow and S&P are 3-4% below record highs.  

 

Sorry if you mised the boat, Chicken Little. :)

Thu, 10/09/2014 - 14:52 | 5309945 truth serum
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ZH should come with a disclaimer "NOT FOR THE SHEEPLE"

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!