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Ebola Pandemic Update: Probable Cases In Brazil And Paris, 7 More Isolated In Spain, WHO Warning
Despite claims of containment, Reuters reports seven more people turned themselves in late on Thursday to an Ebola isolation unit in Madrid; but following a visit by PM Rajoy, Spanish citizens can relax as the government is setting up a special Ebola committee. Following yesterday's scare in Paris, The Independent reports authorities are investigating a 'probable' case of a French national who may have contracted the disease in Africa. The World Health organization has warned that East Asia is at risk of becoming a "hot spot" for diseases - but is well prepared after SARS and avian flu but it is the appearance of a confirmed case in Brazil that is most concerning. A 47-year-old man, originally from Guinea, is LatAm's first case and suggests SOUTHCOM's "nightmare scenario" is closer than many would care to believe. Finally, the CDC has issued special guidance to 911 operators on dealing with suspected Ebola cases across America.
Spain continues to escalate (as Reuters reports)
Seven people turned themselves in late on Thursday to an Ebola isolation unit in Madrid where Teresa Romero, the nurse who became the first person to contract Ebola outside Africa, lay gravely ill.
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In Spain, recriminations mounted over Romero, who was infected in hospital as she treated two Spanish missionaries who had caught the hemorrhagic fever in West Africa -- where Ebola has already killed around 4,000 people -- and remained undiagnozed for days despite reporting her symptoms.
The seven new admissions included two hairdressers who had given Romero a beauty treatment before she was diagnosed with Ebola, and hospital staff who had treated the 44-year-old nurse. The Carlos III hospital said they had all turned themselves in voluntarily to be monitored for signs of the disease.
A hospital spokeswoman said there were now 14 people in the isolation unit on its sealed-off sixth floor, including Romero, her husband, and health workers who had cared for Romero since she was admitted on Monday.
But have no fear...
- *SPAIN IS PREPARED TO DEAL WITH EBOLA, SAENZ DE SANTAMARIA SAYS
- *SPAIN SETS UP SPECIAL EBOLA COMMITTEE, DEPUTY PM SAYS
- *DEPUTY PM SAENZ SAYS SHE WILL CHAIR SPAIN EBOLA COMMITTEE
- *SPAIN TO CREATE EBOLA CRISIS TEAM, PM RAJOY SAYS
- *POSSIBILITY OF WIDER EBOLA CONTAGION VERY LOW, RAJOY SAYS
Following yesterday's false alarm, The Independent reports that France appears to have its first case...
Authorities in Paris are investigating a “probable” case of Ebola in a hospital, according to local reports.
Doctors are expected to receive results from medical tests on a woman who may have contracted the virus and is currently being treated in hospital on Friday, Europe 1 has reported.
They fear the woman may have contracted the virus in Africa. She is understood not to be a French national.
Brazil becomes the first South American country with a confirmed Ebola infection (as The Independent reports)
Brazil is treating a 47-year-old man who has become the country’s first suspected case of the deadly Ebola virus.
The man, originally from Guinea in West Africa, has been placed into isolation at a hospital in the city of Cascavel, where Brazil’s ministry of health have sent specialists to provide additional help and care.
He arrived in Brazil on 19 September and is believed to have travelled from Guinea.
On Thursday afternoon the man went to the emergency department at the hospital with a fever. His case is being treated by medics as suspicious as his symptoms have developed within the maximum incubation period for Ebola, which is 21 days.
Brazil’s ministry of health has reminded people that Ebola is transmitted through the contact with the blood, tissues or bodily fluids of sick individuals, or through the contact of contaminated objects or surfaces.
Which is what SOUTHCOM commander General John Kelly said was his "nightmare scenario"
In the US, the CDC has issued guidance for 9-1-1 operators dealing with suspected Ebola infected patient calls...
Who this is for: Managers of 9-1-1 Public Safety Answering Points (PSAPs), EMS Agencies, EMS systems, law enforcement agencies and fire service agencies as well as individual emergency medical services providers (including emergency medical technicians (EMTs), paramedics, and medical first responders, such as law enforcement and fire service personnel).
What this is for: Guidance for handling inquiries and responding to patients with suspected Ebola symptoms, and for keeping workers safe.
How to use: Managers should use this information to understand and explain to staff how to respond and stay safe. Individual providers can use this information to respond to suspected Ebola patients and to stay safe.
Key Points:
- The likelihood of contracting Ebola is extremely low unless a person has direct unprotected contact with the blood or body fluids (like urine, saliva, feces, vomit, sweat, and semen) of a person who is sick with Ebola or direct handling of bats or nonhuman primates from areas with Ebola outbreaks.
- When risk of Ebola is elevated in their community, it is important for PSAPs to question callers about:
- Residence in, or travel to, a country where an Ebola outbreak is occurring;
- Signs and symptoms of Ebola (such as fever, vomiting, diarrhea); and
- Other risk factors, like having touched someone who is sick with Ebola.
- PSAPS should tell EMS personnel this information before they get to the location so they can put on the correct personal protective equipment (PPE).
- EMS staff should check for symptoms and risk factors for Ebola. Staff should notify the receiving healthcare facility in advance when they are bringing a patient with suspected Ebola, so that proper infection control precautions can be taken.
The guidance provided in this document is based on current knowledge of Ebola.
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And finally, the World Health Organization is warning about risk in East Asia... (China Daily)
East Asia, with its trade and transport hubs and armies of migrant workers, is at risk from Ebola but is improving its defenses and may be more ready than other areas to respond if cases are diagnosed, World Health Organization officials said Friday.
Shin Young-soo, the WHO regional director for the Western Pacific, said East Asia has been a "hotspot" for emerging diseases in the past and has dealt with SARS and avian flu, so it is more prepared than other regions to respond after learning the importance of public education, strong surveillance and transparency.
"All these travel, economic trade, and we have global hubs like Singapore, Hong Kong, and the Philippines is sending a lot of work forces all over the world," make it a possibility for the virus to reach East Asia, Shin said.
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It is not contained...
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It is clear which region is the most concerned...
Ebola Wire Story Count by Region: pic.twitter.com/w81JRM3X95
— Michael McDonough (@M_McDonough) October 9, 2014
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Why don't they catch this at the source by tightening the net around these W. Africa countries and imposing a 21-day waiting period for anyone who wants to leave? Have the person stay in a secluded place for 21 days, check their vital signs, and then let them leave?
I just don't see why they are letting people get on planes at this late date, when they know travelers could be carrying the virus all over the globe.
IKR... it's obviously way too complicated a problem for simple, obvious, prophylactic measures.
Countries free of the disease should close their borders, nationals should allowed only be allowed to return if willing to be quarantined at military sites. Until they can find a drug or vacine it shouldn't be business as usual.
The gods of commerce say business first people last.
Then States then counties and citys then no food then martial law then the moon pie says in a super way with his nose in the air "I will save you until we can have another election".
The fact that you trust government installations, drugs, and vaccines, is kinda sad.
Evidence is everywhere that none of that should be trusted, but still, we do.
Vitamin C folks, Vitamin C.
Africans' skin color blocks their bodies ability to create vitamin D, and to utilize vitamin C. Which may be why the skin darkened in the first place, tropical cllimats allow for greater consumption of vitamin C abundant foods, and vitamin D, so their skin COULD darken as both were abundant. With overpopulation the people no longer have the access to food. Unintended consequences of feeding and medicating nations full of people that can't even feed themselves.
From much I've read Ebola symptoms go from flu-like to quick onset scurvy VERY quickly.
It's been scientifically proven that high, optimal, levels of vitamin C & vitamin D in the blood will kill off MANY viruses and even cancer.
We Americans are overwhelmingly deficient in vitamin D (magnesium and iodine too), plus many of us only get our vitamin C accidentally (small doses, just enough to ward off scurvy, just like our iodine barely keeps goiters at bay) in fake food.
I've tripled my family's intake of C, and I'm making sure we all get either D or 20 minutes of midday sun.
The best defense is a good offense. To stop believing American for-profit institutions/experts were responsible for my health was a difficult path to take, but oh-my how I'm happy now I did it.
Good luck to you and yours if you sign up for some bullshit vaccine. My hope is that all like you use up all the doses long before they go door-to-door and force the shots on the rest of us.
EXACTLY (in Billy Bob voice).
If you got Ebola they would 1) ISOLATE and 2) TREAT. Why not do the same with these countries. Shut down the border and drop off a $1 Billion worth of medical supplies, even gloves for fucks sake.
Now the sick diseased infectious cat is out of the bag.
BTW, How soon before the religious nutjobs start saying this os God's will, all the sinners will be punished etc. etc.
With those beautiful exposed butts this could get ugly on the beaches of Brazil as spring is coming soon.
Long moats and razor wire.
How would ebola moats vote?
If ebola moats could vote votes.
The guy who croaked in Macedonia had ebola like symptoms, but the rest of his case does not fit correctly. The tests come back tomorrow.
The Macedonian guy sounds like a case of liver cirrhosis to me. I have seen cirrhosis of the liver in action, it ain't pretty.
Symptoms of liver cirrhosis are
fever and shivering
vomiting blood
shortness of breath
very dark or black, tarry stools
periods of confusion or drowsiness
Just like Ebola then, but spread out over a much longer timescale. Kudos to the Macedonians for taking it seriously though.
but the jaundice that comes with it turns you yellow as well, doesn't it?
As many as 83% of people being thrown into graves in the greater Sierra Leone/Guinea/Libera area aren't being tested; merely reported as showing "ebola-like symptoms." I've posted this here a number of times, but "ebola-like symptoms," sans bleeding out your asshole, describes the vast majority of disease from toxicity and viral/bacterial infection. Fever, respiratory distress, diarrhea, etc. Still haven't seen a single picture of anyone with symptoms of hemmorhagic fever, y'know, like bloody eyeballs and massive blood blisters on limbs. Even the "tests" for ebola (PCR and antibody tests) are severely flawed and slanted for false positive identification.
http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/10/06/the-ebola-test-let-the-test...
But hey, get vaccinated, everybody! Bill Gates says so. The death of 3,000 people in an area where malaria ALONE kills 600,000 yearly does not a pandemic make. A few thousand false positives mixed in with a handful of "genuine" ebola cases makes for a wonderful ZMapp sales pitch, though. Long GSK.
Exactly!!!
http://truthsector.net/2014/09/20/final-nails-in-the-ebola-scam-coffin-t...
Don't know about false positives, but false negatives have occurred with this ebola outbreak: someone (asymptomatic) who had contact with an ebola patient is tested, comes up negative. Several days later they are sick, and now the test comes back positive.
As a paramedic, I'll tell you right now, I have no faith in the idea that I'll know about an Ebola patient before hand. Dispatch information is horrible, often it is completely wrong. And often a call comes out as responding to a "sick party". The only way I'll have a clue it is ebola is after I walk into their home, realize they are west African and have already touched them. Example, on of the first things we are trained to do is as we are talking to them to feel their wrist and check their pulse. Rather too late at that point to gown up with all the protective gear (what little there is)... oh an not to mention riding to the hospital in the back of the ambulance with them as I start IV's.... yeah....
Cannon Fodder
Flight attendants?
Me too buddy. Piss poor dispatch info, and symptoms that I see regularly on shift. No chance in hell I will know before exposure. Plus the amount of hospital staff and equipment we come into contact with...
Half the time the hospital bed we transfer our patient to has only had a clean sheet put on it. Plus our ambulance rarely gets a proper full decontamination... Might just start the shift in a fucking blue suit...
Bets on who gets it first! Good luck bro..
First one with contact buys a round of drinks... oh... wait... never mind...
Good luck...
*Ebola handshake*
DEAL!
A local firefighter, whose crew initially responded to the call and provided dispatch with information that may (or may not) have been properly relayed to you...
I would say the fire crews's PPE is as at least as bad as the dedicated EMTs, but creative crew members (who are willing to violate protocols) at least have SCBAs and latex gloves on the truck.
SCBAs will help but, each of our tanks only hold about 30mins of air and, we don't keep SCBAs on our rescue van we use for medical calls.... we do have gloves and regular n95 masks.
If it picks up, I doubt I'll be going on any more calls..... I volunteer and, if ebola is everywhere, you'd have to pay me a lot more than nothing to not only put me but my family at risk of that virus.
common fucking sense says ISOLATE THE SOURCE
THAT IS WHY BORAT EBOLA IS DOING EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE....
Control is so illusory.
I am not worried because I heard in a couple weeks we're going to start asking people in airports if they have fevers, after riding in metal tubes with hundreds of other people that we'll let walk away. Those people, the feverish ones, we're going to ask more questions of. Like how many weeks ago were you exposed to ebola, 3 or 4? That will definitely stop infection from spreading in the flying metal petri dishes.
That being said, I don't see this being all that bad, and it's so well timed for elections. Yay!
Nothing like a little FUD for the election cycle.
Diebold brought out that virus resistant voting booth just in time.
#EveryonePanic
eeeeeeeeebohhhhla!
"Rockefeller Foundation’s Futurist Paper Details ‘Ebola Plot’"
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/10/08/rockefeller-foundations-futurist-p...
Must take focus off of Finaicials must watch Ebola...
....and the Syria bombing campaign
So... We are expected to believe that Ebola is not airborne. Apparently, Ebola can jump on the floor and then run or grow across a room then handspring onto the next host and absorb throught the skin. Or does it teleport?
Now officials tell us that this teleporting virus can remain on a door knob for 4 days. That is aweful resillient for a virus outside of a host, how did that come to be?
I would like to hear more about ebolas miracle skin penetrating powers that are implied also. If this is true, just how they make this frankenstein? Is this trait borrowed from another pathogen or is there a chemical component? WTH is going on??
It is right up there with jet fuel melting steel plates and concrete.
"We are expected to believe that Ebola is not airborne."
Best to assume they are liars and are holding back on the truth. Also, if it is transferred via body fluids (liquids), why not in the air since all the air we breath has water vapour in it. In some places the relative humidity index reaches 85% or higher daily. That means 85% of the air is water. So an infected person breaths into the air and presto ...ebola is airborne.
Quick point. A relative humidity of 85% means the air has 85% of the water vapor it can hold, relative to temperature. You go over 100%, you have fog or clouds.
pods
Why is the fucking map not up to date?!
I see you can buy respirators and hazmat suits on ebay, I wonder how long until their price starts rising.
Buying and wearing the suit for short periods is easy. It is decontamination of the suits that is tricky, and the difference between life or death by bleeding out your orifices.
I once happened to ride by a man who was using a water filter to remove Giardia. I noticed he was using it incorrectly and was contaminating his filtered water he was about to drink. Part of me wanted to fly off my horse and save him. Another part of me wanted to let nature take its course. I think I better not finish the story and drudge up some buried guilt.
Miffed
miffed, do you have any therapuetic/medicinal recommendations if you or hubby come down w/ ebola, or is it done at the point of symptoms and isolation is the only option?
I read on the internet that you can infuse yourself with Vitamin C at a rate of 68 kg per kg of body weight. I promise you won't die from ebola.
If you want to improve your chances for surviving something like this, might I suggest:
http://www.drfuhrman.com/shop/super_immunity_book.aspx
Incredibly smart doctor who heals through nutrition.
pods
(just to be clear, my first statement was hyperbole)
Thanks pods. Yeah, I've seen your responses to those touting Vit C :) Glad you and miffed are on here. Seems like the best defense is the best offense - get the immune system primed NOW, hydrate, hope for the best. Were you the one that posted about fasting to aid the immue system?
No, that wasn't me. But fasting does help your body repair itself. I do take systemic proteolytic enzymes. Helps with body repair.
Dig around Dr. Fuhrman's site. He is VERY good at what he does.
pods
Fuhman is good. Gerson therapy is interesting too but spendy.
I still think you have more chance of being shot by an American police officer than catching ebola.
But the gap is narrowing.
Actually still has a long way to go. http://thefreethoughtproject.com/americans-killed-cops-outnumber-america...
OMG ! Why isn't someone from the government doing something?!
That's exactly how government grows. And never stops growing.
Pondering my above statement will lead you to many truths. ;)
They will be appointing a EBOLO Infection Czar to sit alongside the Drug Czar and the Immigration Czar and the....
Didn't that fat broad who was the SG retire? Get her hot dog neck back to work!
pods
OT/
Was the Ebola virus created to prevent a Chinese-Russian iron-ore investment in Liberia, Guinea, Sierra Leone?
This African project (Sundance) calls for two mine sites, a rail line to the sea, and a new port. With a resource estimate of 4.5 billion tonnes, according to the feasibility studies, and estimated output of 35 million tonnes per annum, the project would challenge Vale’s Brazilian mines and Rio Tinto’s Australian ones, as among the world’s largest.
Strategically, the Sundance project would be the largest independent source of iron-ore in the world, uncontrolled by either Vale, Rio Tinto, BHP, or Glencore, which is also starting an iron-ore mine at the Congo. A revolution in iron-ore pricing would convince the Chinese banks that the major producers can be knocked off their benchmarks, and the volatile spot-market pricing currently dominated by small, high-cost producers replaced by more direct Chinese control.
Iron Man Takes a Tumble - Will Africa Succeed Australia, Brazil, Russia too, As the New Low-Cost Global Supplier of Iron-Ore?
http://johnhelmer.net/?p=11594#more-11594
Thanks for this link, I was just compiling a series of reports on this very subject to write up an article. Sierra Leone has also recently discovered a large offshore oil cache, and the region is also rife with Chinese firms mining for gold. Whether the crisis is real or imagined doesn't matter much now that there's "boots on the ground." A proverbial "Mission Accomplished" if I've ever seen one.
The sheep will understand their next shearing was due to Ebola
I am pretty sure the elites have access to effective treatment. Otherwise they would have closed borders long ago.
If they are pinning their hopes on that they have been sold a bill of goods. RNA viruses mutate.
So where is the Fucking bankster Mr. S? HEARD he got Ebola from infected whore on the Hamptons. He's been out for nine days now. Rehab or coked out? He really likes the Whores on Wall Street...
@Delta and @United continue to fly daily non stop +/12-hour flights between Atlanta, Houston and Lagos in the heart of #Ebola infested west Africa.
http://flightaware.com/live/airport/DNMM
UAL 142 - IAH (Houston) to DNMM (Lagos)
UAL 143 - DNMM to IAH
DAL54 - ATL (Atlanta) to DNMM (Lagos)
DAL55 - DNMM to ATL
I have an idea...how about these two U.S. companies do what's right for America and their future (assuming they desire to stay in business) and voluntarily stop flying this route so as to protect Americans until this situation is brought under control...lest they face the biggest class action lawsuit of mankind for being an accessory should they be complicit in bringing #Ebola to our front door?
Why should it take a government to stop these flights when @Delta and @United could ground these flights today?
DAL55 (a B767) landed in Atlanta at 5:00a EDT. UAL143 (a B787) landed in Houston at 4:27a EDT. Are these daily non-stop flight really worth the risk?
No, it is not worth the risk. And those airplanes do not necessarily stay on the international routes back to Africa. They can be routed to most any international or domestic destination that has a suitable airport in the airlines' route system. A lot of airlines now use contract cleaning agencies to save money. Do you think anyone really cares if the airplanes are cleaned after a flight?
Didn't United and Delta have something to do with 911? Those two companies always bring death.
I think Obola, Jackson, and Sharpton et al are more interesting in using this crisis to fan racial tensions to shore up the base than they are in actually doing anything actually effective.
Yes, I've even begun wiping gasoline dispenser handles with bleach soaked towels before using them. I've never gone that radical and see myself taking further steps as this situation explodes. Anything that can be potentially spread via sweat is not to be treated as a joke.
Ring around the rosie and a big fat pocket full of f'n posies is what I feel like.
The American blacks I know don't want fresh off the boat Africans here any more than anyone else.....
As do my black friends. I have deep conversations with some of my black friends about the Banksters too, and they are very aware. Hell, most of my black friends think Jesse J. is a huckster.
The controlled media is just the tip of the spear for TPTB. Divide and conquer, period.
It just disgusts me to no end to watch people try to politicize this for personal or party gain.
Ebola does not care.
Apparently ebola doesn't know President Chalky Chavez Goebbels has declared "WAR" on it. Maybe it saw him riding the girls bike with the oversized safety helmet or the "red line" he drew in the sand RE Syria. But don't worry, nothing to see here; move along sheeple.
www.traderzoo.mobi
Goebbels exactly. It's some wild eyes bastards like that who created this thing.
Headup a committee on that and get back to me.
Maybe the powers that be should have picked people with common sense instead of psychopaths to run a couple of their outfits, Maybe if the worlds lucky a few of these idiots will visit the hospitals for photo ops.
>> ... Ebola is transmitted through the contact with the blood, etcetera, or through the contact of contaminated objects or surfaces. <<
The first thing you should stop doing is handling cash and using public touch screens and ATM key pads. Money will die.
Everything will be for free, for the grab, so to speak.
Gas pumps etc
I'm cutting up plastic grocery bags into 3"x3" squares to use as finger condoms for touching those ATM keys. It's then followed up by a dip into a container of 190 proof alcohol before removal. I just drop them on the ground which kind of goes against my no littering ethos.
Just coat yourself with grease, The little tiny germs will get stuck in it and slide off you in the hot shower....don't slip
Plastic spray on people. The silicon stone in your hand is not just for age (Logan's Run) but cleanliness/credits/age.
"Global Ebola Worries: Congress Mulls Funding and the Pentagon Fears Ebola in the Western Hemisphere....But there’s only so much bandwidth, if you will, of preventive medicine people and the like that — to go around, and they are totally involved in trying to deal with the problem in West Africa. If it broke into the Western Hemisphere, the countries we’re talking about have almost no ability to deal with it, particularly Haiti and the Central American republics, almost no ability to deal with it."
http://blogs.rollcall.com/healthopolis/global-ebola-worries-congress-mul...
Rhetorical question: "Do rental cars pose an Ebola risk?"
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/10/10/us-rental-cars-spreading-ebola...
ZH has the most up to date updates on this unfolding pandemic.
I read that same 3400 number of dead 2 or 3 days ago. I think the "on-the-ground" collection of data has become spotty, inaccurate and unreliable.
Either that, or TPTB are desperately trying to suppress truly horrid #s.
Virtual news and image block-out from africa.
Millions of smart phones in affected areas, but no posts nor pictures, and you are correct no updated mortality numbers.
If the actions of our leaders make no logical sense whatsoever...
the WHO January forecast of 1.3MM infected has 100% chance of being true, because it has aready happened.
the WHO January forecast of 1.3MM infected has 100% chance of being true, because it has aready happened.
The reported infection rate data has flattened a bit - almost linear on the last 5 or so data points. Still beating the 98% corrolated exponential curve however. I agree that the actual data may be suspect - but I don't think that's intentional. More likely because accurate counts are difficult when the cases are so numerous and real panic/chaos starts to set in.
We'll see soon enough I suppose. By my graphs, we should hit 15k infections by the end of the month or so.
More contamination -> More data to collect&process -> More manhours needed -> Less updates.
TPTB trying to suppress what? https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx7I-MzAy7p5bkt4Qk9ER2lMOG8/view?usp=sh...
Last data source: http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/136020/1/roadmapsitrep_8Oct2014...
Snakes on a Plane
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snakes_on_a_Plane
>> Ebola is transmitted through the contact with the blood, etcetera, or through the contact of contaminated objects or surfaces. <<
The first things you should stop doing is handling cash, using public touch screens and ATM key pads. Money will die, trade will die. Everything will be up for the grabs.
I'm curious to see what happens when a food handler at McDonalds, or an employee of DisneyWorld gets it. There'll be some good cover ups, for sure, before the public knows and then panics.
"How many contacts... 10,000??"
Absolutely!
My new questions for dining out no longer concern the specials.
"Hey hon, do you have any immigrants working in the kitchens?"
Hate to be that way, but damn, if a nurse following protocol's can get it, I'm surely not taking a risk while I'm eating my dinner.
"I'm surely not taking a risk while I'm eating my dinner."
Then the only place to eat is at home, but be careful where you buy your groceries.
It would be better not to eat out.
"I'm surely not taking a risk while I'm eating my dinner."
Maybe the airlines will lend you their TSA questionaire?
I was reading a (useless) newspaper in the dentist's office yesterday and 2 words occured to me,...cross-contamination. At least I'll get that crown done before it's too late.
This seems it is going to be like Smallpox but with a higher kill rate.
Simple solution though since we know it comes from one continent.
Therefore....
Nobody is allowed to leave Africa by plane, boat or rail without first spending 10 days in an isolated building and all being found to be clean. Processed in batches...and of course hundreds/thousands of building across African airports, ports, rails...etc.
21 days.
Edit: and at least 90 days for convalescent males (semen)
It might be as long as 180 days for semen..... or 6 months to you and me.
90 days, bah.
It's not as though Africans like to fuck.
You can't quarantine a continent ffs. What you mean to say is: Nobody is allowed to my country from Africa without quarantine, let them die as long as I don't.
How will Americans dying from Ebola lessen the suffering of Africa?
Of course it won't, unless it hits DC. But the NIMBY priciple is strong hereabouts, which is heartbreaking.
NIMBY = Surivial instinct, I see you've been nicely gelded.
Yeah, it's all about personal survival and fuck everyone else. That's why the human race is going nowhere fast. If we operate from a position of giving a shit about others, this would never have happened. But here we are, and this is what we get.
A pity you edited 'gelded twit' to 'you've been nicely gelded'. The former was much more amusing.
I felt bad for being so nasty this early on a Friday morning.
Western civilization has a duty to defend itself from plague infested barbarians, it needn't roll over and wait to die. It's really that simple.
Notice I didn't say that the West shouldn't put massive resources into W Africa to contain the virus (and treat the sick/dying). The free movement of African people to the West and the West coming to the aid of African people in W Africa are not mutually exclusive.
The former can be halted, while the latter ramps up. The politicans (in the US anyway) so beholden to the open border global citizen agenda NEED to make the choice a binary one.
Fuck that, raise the draw bridge.
Don't sweat it, I've had 'the boys' replaced with some very fine ceramics, chicks dig my Newton's Cradle.
I don't disagree with what you're saying, just seeing the 'omg what about me me me' reaction come out in times of crisis is bloody depressing. It also makes us damned easy to manipulate, which is probably one of the reasons why it's promoted. It's hard not to at least wonder if Ebola winning isn't for the best really.
Anyway, have a good rest of your Friday, no reason to fuck it up getting angry at commentards ;)
But for the fatalism, I don't disagree.
Cheers.
lots of used wedding rings will be on sale, so no market for blood diamonds? Just swinging for the bleachers here...
Treatment for the most part isn't very effective, and for those that would point out the couple of special cases that got flown back here and managed to recover, that level of care will never scale if the disease starts spreading. So it's not a matter of 'let them die', that's going to happen anyway, it's a matter of minimizing the body count.
" Nobody is allowed to my country from Africa without quarantine, let them die as long as I don't"
So?
This is exactly the survivial instinct that has been bred/"educated" out of western people, replaced by self loathing and white guilt.
Yes, it is time to raise the drawbridge, at least to nationals of/travellers to Guinea, SL & Liberia (for now). The American & European volunteers, while noble, need to wait it out. They knew the risks. One look at the Madrid situation confirms exactly how foolish it was to transport infected patients out of Africa for treatment. Hubris.
As oposed to "everyone is allowed in my country from Africa, without quarentine. Let us all die together"
Oh shit, wait a minute....
What's wrong with that?
So, it's spreading way faster than the political assholes can lie about it.
Whocouldanode?
Obama still thinsk we can allow flights in and out of Ebola countries. It would be racist to deny Africans free access to Obamacare and the ability to vote in November.
Obama's legacy will be the death of tens of millions of Americans. President Ebola.
Rental cars, airplanes, hotel rooms. Any town or city with West Africans.
People would probably , given the choice, rather not chance catching Ebola. Just a hunch.
My theory is, you have to be mighty desperate or brain dead to travel or do things travel related, going forward.
The panic, fear, fear of the unknown is going to be devastating. And who is going to listen when THEY tell us to shop, travel ,fly and spend?
I FEEL it. It's empirical. I'm not engaging in any of the above activities. Bedbugs are one thing. This is another.
Edit; soon, the ONLY passengers in the planes will be West Africans.
Market machines understand that all too well, apparently.
Health care workers and first responders are at the greatest risk. If this gets going in a substantial way, we will see how many in these professions are able to put public welfare above their own. I couldn't.
Gotta love the disclaimer... "The guidance provided in this document is based on current knowledge of Ebola."
Zero Confidence.
The fact that there is even a disclaimer reeks of incomptenece and dishonesty
10,000 germophobes and hypochondriacs just had their heads explode. This frees up a lot of hand sanitizer for the rest of us.
Flu season's really going to suck this year - do I just have the flu, rest in bed for a few days and I'll be fine? Or did I draw the fucking short-straw on that last trip downtown and have a week or two of internal liquifaction to look forward to before dying, not to mention the fear of infecting the rest of the family.
Yup, health services are going to be totally screwed by this. In the UK they couldn't even cope with swine flu fears.
The UK has TWO isolation beds suitable for dealing with pathogens like Ebola. The British people have nothing to worry about.
The UK has TWO PUBLIC isolation beds suitable for dealing with pathogens like Ebola.
Many more military, government, and private isolation units.
Yes, flu season. Given the early symptoms of Ebola, how many cases do you think it would take to completely shut down a major metro health system.....
My guess is only a few dozen.
Shut down the hospitals and the chain transmission in the US looks exactly like that in Liberia; families caring for their dying loved ones.
Hubris.
You dont even need real Ebola victims,
just for pranks call up your local emergency room and start with "we just got this refugee kid from West Arfica, and he don't look so good, he has 101 fever bloodshot eyes and just wants to lie down and sleep, he hasn't eaten for 2 days, could he have Ebola?"
"Do you have Ebola tests should we bring him in?"
Then call the next emergency room
Ever been to an emergency room?
There is no space or triage for Ebola, America is totally unequipped.
Well, the Deputy in Texas has now been found to just have a cold. Panic Panic Panic.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/09/ebola-test-negative-for-dallas-county...
Don't ants and spiders kill more people than that.
Professor Al Bartlett began his one-hour talk with the statement, "The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function."
The next time you see Prof Bartlett, could you please thank him for me for his wonderful pears?
signed: 'a avg murican'
Gladly, I suppose they're growing exponentially?
undiagnozed
FFS I know you lot like your zee's, but that's ridiculous!
IS THIS THE RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES???
#BuckFarack
Ebola: Over 1300 Nigerian soldiers on peacekeeping in Liberia quarantined
http://thecallng.com/2014/10/ebola-over-1300-nigerian-soldiers-on-peacek...
I know that with modern air travel that this is all plausible but it's moving too damn fast. I am going full on David Icke conspiracy nut level five.
"conspiracy nut level five"
Think of it as a lifestyle. I do.
The Guardian is reporting Madrid hospital staff quit over Ebola fears. Staff in a country with unemployment rate of 24.5% are resigning.
I wonder what the medical staff reaction will be in countries with a normal sub-10% unemployment rate, where theres a prospect of other work?
They probably went back to welfare.
"Change You Can Bereave In"
I can't stop haring a chinese accent when I read this.
I'm not worried or even mildly concerned. I don't expect anyone, Anyone to protect me or mine from anything anymore.
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/10/08/the-obama-experiment-post-reports-hes-ruined-it-for-future-unqualified-candidates/
"http://berealtruth.wordpress.com brtanner
It doesn’t matter what figurehead is “selected” to occupy the whitehouse. An entire system has been permitted to be put above human management of our personal affairs while we were sleeping. The system has been built by professional planners and organizers whose focus is on their benefits from the system, not on the people the system purportedly serves. The system arrogates illegitimate power to itself in the name of the people it controls and extracts wealth from. Allow the system to continue consolidating its power over populations, and it matters not what puppet assumes the throne. The alternative would be taking responsibility ourselves.
You are correct it doesnt really matter who is Elected , they are only a puppet,,but this guy took it to the next level,, The first gay, Muslim, communist, lying , dictator from Kenya"
Was the Ebola virus created to prevent a Chinese-Russian iron-ore investment in Liberia, Guinea, Sierra Leone?
This African project (Sundance) calls for two mine sites, a rail line to the sea, and a new port. With a resource estimate of 4.5 billion tonnes, according to the feasibility studies, and estimated output of 35 million tonnes per annum, the project would challenge Vale’s Brazilian mines and Rio Tinto’s Australian ones, as among the world’s largest.
Strategically, the Sundance project would be the largest independent source of iron-ore in the world, uncontrolled by either Vale, Rio Tinto, BHP, or Glencore, which is also starting an iron-ore mine at the Congo. A revolution in iron-ore pricing would convince the Chinese banks that the major producers can be knocked off their benchmarks, and the volatile spot-market pricing currently dominated by small, high-cost producers replaced by more direct Chinese control.
Iron Man Takes a Tumble - Will Africa Succeed Australia, Brazil, Russia too, As the New Low-Cost Global Supplier of Iron-Ore?
http://johnhelmer.net/?p=11594#more-11594
Great theory, but look at the current prices per ton. Iron Ore is in a Gult and the prices are dropping, and there are more producers coming on-line in China now (meaning within a year) even at this low price per ton and admist dropping demand.
IF anything Ebloa is a good excuce to drop this white elephant iron-ore project.
dag
Very interesting.
Just to be clear. The local MSM in Rio and São Paulo are indicating that the Ebola case is *not* confirmed. The victim, Souleymane Bah, 47 years old, is a fellow who recently obtained refugee status and arrived in Brasil at Aeroporto Guarulhos in São Paulo on 19 September from Guinea via Morroco -- within the 21-day window for symptoms, which is the cause for concern. He was in the interior city of Cascavel (what the hell he was doing there I'll never know) and has been transported to Rio to the National Institute of Infectious Diseases. The people who were in the clinic he went to ill have been allowed to leave, but the building itself has been quarantined for disinfection.... just in case. Actually, all of these measures were taken just in case.
Yes, it is a little unnerving to consider the prospect of a virulent pestilence as Ebola taking root in, say, Morro do Alemão. There is simply no infrastructure in Brasil capable of dealing with more than a case or 2 and the conditions in a favela are really no different from those encountered in, say, Monrovia.
Have no fear, were forming a committee. Isn't that what Turkey and the US are saying about Kobani? Im sure the Kurds are feeling much better knowing that a committee is being formed.
There's never been a better time to.... not leave your house.
Don't panic!
Ebola reaches Hawaii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpRP2k1lu3A
Hong Kong and New Dehli next? I have been poking through their English papers they don't appear too be too alarmed. Shouldnt it already be there at this rate?
Hazmat-suit makers have biggest jump. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ebola-fear-causes-hazmat-suit-makers-bi... Buy them while you can. For a limited time you can buy the puncture proof Hazmat suit of your color choice for only $1099 plus S&H. Act now and we'll send you an additional suit for free. Just pay the added S&H.
Or, just wait for the Gov issued ones...sure they are not as stylish or fancy as those high dollar blue ones, and they only come in one color, black, with no arm or leg holes and a full length zipper!
"There is nothing to fear but fe... fucking hell, he's got a cough! Run for your lives!"
Fortunately it is easy to identify Ebola because there are no other illnesses that cause nausea and fever.... No wait....
Maybe if that typhoon hits Fukushima the radiation circling the globe will kill the virus.
We don't even need ebola to spread here, we're already in the process of killing ourselves by calling for more government. The governer of Conneticut already declared a state of emergency so he can being looting funds.
Fuck Connecticut. Fuck Malloy. I left last year and those motherfuckers are still collecting a "car tax" you pay every year for the blessing of owning a vehicle in that fuckin POS state.