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Martin Armstrong Warns "A Mad Max Event Is Possible"
Excerpted from Armstrong Economics,
We are at a crossroads. The tree has been cut. Which way will it fall – authoritarian or democracy? We can make a difference.
Step one is understanding what is the problem. At least then we can address a solution with some reasonable game plan.
We have a great convergence coming. It is nothing to be afraid of and it is nothing we can ignore. Yes a Mad Max event is possible.
The average person depends upon government tremendously – even those not on welfare. There are pensions and Social Security that people really believe they are “entitled” to and thus these benefits will exist. What happens when they realize they do not?
Socialism has even changed the historic bounds of family. You had 4 to 6 kids for that was your retirement. The kids knew they had the responsibility of taking care of their parents. Today – that’s government’s job. Everything has been changed to depend upon government that never tells the truth and they will defend to the very last drop of your blood.
Marriages were ARRANGED! The age difference was typically 25% during the 19th century. To sell movies, Hollywood turned lust into love at first sight. They painted the image of happily-ever-after. I spoke with film makers and they all said people did not want to leave a movie feeling depressed. They glorified marriage and set unrealistic standards. Consequently, the age difference collapsed and the divorce rate rose to 60%+ because of unrealistic expectations.
Pensions began as the marriage contract. The man had to first establish himself and then propose. The Dowry was all about ensuring the wife would be secure – the pension. It was not about “love at first sight” yet according to things like Match.COM, 70% of people dating expect love-at-first-sight. So many people have the wrong expectation of marriage and are thus doomed from the start.
Even the Black family was stronger than the white family before welfare. When you paid women not to be married and to have children, you change the family structure. Socialism has significantly altered the behavior of every race all based upon expectations of government.
Free food changes behavior be it people or animals. Being compassionate is to be human. To give a man a free fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and your feed him for a lifetime. Government adopted the first strategy to create dependency upon the political system.
They tell you do not feed the bears in Yellowstone National Park because they then look for free food and no longer hunt. Humans are no different. What happens when government collapses and people are totally unprepared because they never thought government collapses?
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Please, we are going to need to burn the tree to heat our homes....
...something about seed corn and long overdue structural reforms and accountability comes to mind.
I hate to say this, but when you get to that guys age you gotta get down on your knees to get some.
Assless chaps FTW!
pods
Backward racist goldbugs can have your thunderdome and assless chaps, I'm going with neofeudalist technocracy, long life spans for my family and a full stomach. Good luck with your "resistance movement" blip in the history book.
Whisper Rumor Martin Armstrong parties harder than Charlie Sheen.
Its a true artcle, but its a bad artcle with little to no content. It sounds like a explaination from a highschool student vs a creditable source with true facts.
Yes, 100% agree. The content is falling off a cliff hard, and makes my speed posting look like Mark Twain on meth.
On that note, if we are going to a Mad Max event, I call dibbs on Jay Leno's Shelby collection and the Tinkie factory. I wish to be known as the gold king, who sells the gold cakes, for gold.
And I'll need a barber who can give me a funky Duke Nukem haircut.
OMT: lol at the oil bottom.
Campaign 4 liberty.
"We stand today at a crossroads:
One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness.
The other leads to total extinction.
Let us hope we have the wisdom to make the right choice."
--Woody Allen
"I am the Nightrider. I'm a fuel injected suicide machine. I am the rocker, I am the roller, I am the out-of-controller! "
The Nightrider
It is nothing to be afraid of.......
Yeah it's only extremely violent addled ass chapped muthaphuckas running down women and children on choppers without mufflers.
Other than that.....
Did he bang his cranium upside the Grey Bar Hotel poles repeatedly until he looked like Headbanger?
And I'm supposed to listen to this 'genius' douchewoggle like he's The Oracle of East Omaha. Yeah. Hell yeah. Nothing to be afraid of. Why nothing at all. Fear is good. Fear keeps ya on your toes there Armstrong.
now i can relate to the situation at hand...
my ilk and i shall be fine...
we are trained professionals at BREAKING STUFF!
The Toecutter - he knows who I am. I am the Nightrider! I am the chosen one. The mighty hand of vengeance, sent down to strike the unroadworthy! I'm hotter than a rollin' dice. Step right up, chum, and watch the kid lay down the rubber road, ride to freedom!
WHEN? When is the only bit of information that we are truly interested in. We keep up on the latest news, hoping for signs of the end, or at least hints that it may actually be close. We all know (or hope) that this path is unsustainable, and that an end to these systems, and indeed the world as we know it is coming. The only question which remains - the only bit of information with any value is that which answers the question, when. Of course, to this question no answer can be given. So until the day it happens we will continue to be disappointed, hah.
In 'Merkican Detroit .. it already IS Mad Max now, bitchez!
Ok, but late to the party.
When rules no longer apply, I'm also going to cut down my 20 gauge.
Lieberia? “Liberia bans journalists from Ebola centers” confirming earlier rumors
http://wtfrly.com/2014/10/10/lieberia-liberia-bans-journalists-from-ebol...
"To give a man a free fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and your feed him for a lifetime"
Build a man a fire, and he will be warm that night. Set a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
Forward (over the cliff)!
TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES!
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes. Then if he gets pissed off, he's a mile away and doesn't have any shoes....
and, YOU CAN LEAD A HORSE TO WATER, BUT YOU"LL HAVE A HELLUVA TIME TRYING TO DROWNED IT!!!
Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Where's the ghOatrustler and his BTC diatribe?
After all, Friday nites are humoreski. <per Boris>
Catching fish from the Pacific could be worse than going hungry. Radiation in seafood is here to stay, what a nightmare.
Give a man a fish, you will feed him for the day. If you take him to McDonald's he will have Fillet O Fish.
OMG! That's priceless. So true. Armstrong sucks ass.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Teach a man to fish and he'll sit and drink beer all day.
the Tinkie factory
When I was a kid, I called taking a dump a tinkie. 'have to take a tinkie'. the tinkie factory is all yours... lol
Martin Armstrong is irrelevant. The same guy that said stocks would continue declining in 2008. All made up cycle mumbo-jumbo. Charlatanism.
Yeah, let's face it; he's just another wing-nut. Yeah, yeah, he's right about something; so what; anyone can state the obvious.
I have a personal vendetta against him. He states what he states with so much confidence. I've lost lots of money following advice from this dumbass - never again. I've learned following my own research is the only way to go.
sounds like you deserved it, anyway its only money
Stop complaining - I read Martin Armstrong articles for the comments, and yours is not up to scratch. Needs more Roadwarrior, IMHO.
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Go fuck yourself. You're not my dad.
Fuck democracy. My natural rights are not decided by a majority. How about a third option that maximizes individual liberty?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism but it requires the vast majority to be self-sufficent adults...
"Anarcho-capitalism" is a first-order oxymoron. They are two distinct and diametrically opposed ideologies.
WHO RUN BARTERTOWN, BITCHEZ!
MsCreant's legend lives on!!!
Oscar Mayer is correct. Any person who subscribes to "anarcho-capitalism" either doesn't know what Anarchism is or does not know what Capitalism is.
Detailed description here: http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF
Amongst other differences, the two are fundamentally incompatible due to their polar opposite views on property. The terms property and possession have distinct and different meanings under Anarchism and property is explicitly rejected as a form of theft / oppression. Yet this very same property is a foundation of Capitalism itself.
Detailed description here: http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionB3
I do not necessarily advocate for the positions outlined above, but I do advocate for the term "anarcho-capitalism" being discarded as a silly oxymoron. Typically it seems to be used within right-wing propaganda as a Sophistry tool.
Nothing is free, some kind of property is unavoidable, even wild animals have a kind of property, which we call territory, which can be a kill or be killed matter including by starvation; smarter animals like us apes have social structures to try and waste less time and energy on that wasteful conflict.
The arguments against "anarcho-capitalism" at infoshop are flawed, based on bankrupt oppressive Socialism and mistaking a Socialist government caused crony 'Capitalist' Corporacy society for a Capitalist one; I don't agree with complete Slavery, but some trade-offs are required to live, especially with excessive government taxes, and would be much less with minimal or no government; yes, the Austrian Economists are not perfect, but they do seem to have lots of good ideas unlike the Socialists.
I'm learning more about just how bad Socialist Government has become from training after being merged into a huge transnational corporation; the amount of regulation and priviledge is really quite shocking and could flatten a smaller business with admin. costs, which obviously significantly benefits corporations; I think this was intentional!
I doubt that many people could function in a complete Anarchy for any period, so some minimal hierachy and specialisation is required for groups of humans, even at family level (which stupid socialist feminism has significantly damaged now).
Our real enemies are the overly predatory minority of Psychopaths (not all), their willing and weaker willed cronies, other manipulated damaged people and lazy uninformed thinking by the coddled majority; the majority are running out of time now...
I agree with most of your post, which is exactly why I put that qualification at the end that I don't endorse the Anarchist view. I contend that the will to establish property (in the Anarchist sense) is a genetic drive, a product of sexual selection. Trying to establish a system without it is doomed to failure.
Where I agree with Anarchists is the general opposition to enforced Authority. It doesn't matter is it's left wing or right wing, Communist oppression or Crony Capitalist oppression (Fascism). They're essentially the same thing: a small group of psychos in charge, simply using different methods to steal from the masses.
Where I oppose the Austrian school is that it takes very little digging into their framework to realise that they are, in fact, advocating for much of the very system that we have right now. They ARE neo-liberals, they literally defined the term itself, and neoliberalism demonstrably leads straight to crony capitalism. Many fellow proponents of Liberty get sucked in by Austrian nonsense.
So while I think we agree in essence, I do not agree (based on my reading of Anarchism and Austrian School economics) with your second paragraph. I reject some of the Anarchist position as unrealistic, and most of the Austrian position as Fascism in disguise.
Both fail to account adequately for the fact that humans are a Great Ape sub-species, with some ugly primitive behavior being carried in the genome.
That is for the survivors of the upcoming purge.
Have fun with Ebola, or your family being sent to a work camp cuz I don't imagine your one of the elite.
I say we take back our republic!
nationallibertyalliance.org
Who run Bartertown?
LOL!! That which cannot be sustained, won't be, regardless of what anyone thinks or "believes".
Zirpedge...
i think you're on the wrong website
DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND'S OVER THERE ========>
Do some math and hen come back and tell us how the USA makes good on it's big promises....that dollars will buy all the real things it now says it can and that it will give everyone what the dollar now promises.
I've tried and I keep coming up with broken promises. Hyper inflation or default are really the same thing. In the first you have to burn all the extra paper.
I do not see a way through this. It may not come to Mad Max but it does not come out Wine and Roses either. I see poverty and reduced energy consumption (another word for poverty).
Please explain.
If its not mad max..the only other scenario that I can see is camps.
Explain how it will work when theres not enough food/electricity. .etc.
Rhetorical question. It won't work. The era of ubridled expansion is over. A new era is upon us. Take it from there...
Are our supply lines robust or fragile in terms of systemic shocks/changes?
Are our communnities self-sufficient?
Are people largely skilled, adaptable and reasonable?
If you're curious, just go to Argentina. They've been there, done that. Imagine lots of people under one roof, scrounging, repairing things they would have thrown out, working under the table, eating a very boring diet.
"Explain how it will work when theres not enough food/electricity. .etc. "
1. Rip up your fucking lawn and the ornamental shit and plant herbs, fruits and vegetables that you like to eat. Start in the the back if you give a fuck what the bum across the street thinks and/or want to keep the new food source on the low down. You woould be surprised at how many 'weeds' you have been pulling and poisoning that are actually really nutricious and hardy foodstuffs.
Deer, rabbits, groundhogs, squirrels, birds, etc. are gonna come to eat your veggies if there are any such critters in your area. That might actually be a good thing since they will make excellent entres once you get a mean enought hankering for meat and get your hands dirty doing whatever it takes to put 'em on the plate.
Some ducks lay as well as chickens and you don't hear that damned crowing at dawn. Fish in a pond or a cistern or a barrel are a bitch to russle in the dead of night with the dogs on the loose.
You can eat ants and grasshoppers, frogs and iguanas, chihuahuas and pot bellied pigs. In WW2 era France if the butchers didn't leave the head on a rabbit it was sold cheap because it was a housecat even if the sign said rabbit..
2. Water can be pumped by hand/flywheel and/or dumb animal power. You don't need a horse; the big dog likes running and playing. Keeps the animal strong and you might want one for security enhancement anyway.
Capture rainwater, bank gutter runnoff into your plot instead of onto the street.
3. Learn a simple trade or ten. Sew and patch. Carve and splint. Bow and arrow. Tallow and lye. Salt and jerk. Home brew and pickle. Edible floar can be made from acorns. Corn can be pounded into pone. Maple trees yield syrup and bees make honey.
Google some shit for yourself or ask teh gallery and you will get a link deluge and a thousand ideas...
+1. EROEI is a bitch. Perpetual growth fail = system fail. What happens when the dominos really start to fall (pensions, social security, welfare, etc.)?
Seems to me ugly happens sooner or later. The time frame here is less than 20 years. Likely less than 10.
I'm going with neofeudalist technocracy
You mean neo-fascist, and you're presupposing ALOOOOT of things to get to your utopian conclusion. Fortunately, you will not be uneffected either, so don't be a dope.
I always get a little chuckle when the reference is "Mad Max", followed by a still shot from "The Road Warrior". The "Mad Max" scenario seems pretty likely to me, the "Road Warrior" scenario? Though it made for a way cooler movie, not really that likely.
For those that remember the movie, the scenario I could easily see happening is when you run out of shotgun shells and need more. But then I'm not a shotgun fan boy, and I have thousands of rounds for my rifles. Bring it on motorcycle gangs!
Agree
Max Max and The Road Warrior are different points in time with The Road Warrior being more anarchistic and Houston looking more like Mad Max every day.
I don't envision nor would I want to eating the dog food out of the can while my dogs are watching me.
When I first saw the movie I thought the little kid in TRW might be a David Lee Roth progeny while on a Tour the Great Southern Land.
I LOVED the new moive "The Rover"
If you place it in the Mad Max timeline, it's after Mad Max (still some cops around) but before Road Warrior (Total Chaos). In "The Rover" there are no police, but some military in the "badlands" barely holding on, and gas is (somehow) still available for for 10 USD (USD LOLZ!!) a gallon (which I thought was pretty low)
It's very nillistic and has casual sociopathic-level violence.
The "Do you know it's over for you" speach in the middle of the film is remarkable!
I was a teenager with a z900 when the first (and best) MM came out - cost me a small fortune in rear tyres. Fuck I feel old.
PS: The Australian version is far better than the dubbed American one first released.
Agree...if you let bad guys within 1000 yards you are doing somethng wrong. 50BMG is best but 338LM can do the job too.
Reloading is fun and instructive. I suggest it as a hobby for all.
Quite agree. For soft targets the 338L is nice but I prefer the 416. Supersonic and damned accurate to 2,000 meters; and with the BDR round, has only a 48 inch ordinate at 1,000 meters. With such velocity, normal long range parameters such as wind, humidity have little effect. Point, shoot, smile. Turns any moron into a marksman. Liberty groups nationwide should stock a pair with optics, suppressors, and a few K rounds. Love the 50, have thousands of AP, API, I, and titanium-tipped rounds. But my true love is my Anzio 20mm for hard targets.
edit-drop
Edit: 408 Cheytac, not 416 Barrett. Been playing with sons 416 this month and stated wrong caliber for the 305 grain BDR round:
"305gr. Battlefield Domination Round (BDR). The 305grain BDR round is used for rapid defense engagements from the rifle out to 1000. The maximum ordinate of this projectile over the 1000 yards range is 48 inches. The operator places a rifle sights elevation setting of 1000 yards and then aims at the mid thigh point of any target from 0 to 1000 yards away. The high velocity (3500 fps) and low maximum ordinate makes the flight time extremely short (1 second to 1000 yards), which makes the gun able to engage targets to 1000 yards about every 3 seconds. It is much less time for a semiautomatic gun. The normal data needed, such as range, winds, and environmental conditions are not needed at such high velocities."
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Yeah, you right he is a bit young....
Unless you wear a Rolex, a big diamond pinky ring, drive a Maserati, wear custom tailored clothes and an $800 pair of shoes. Also helps if in addition to that you are a public icon or slimy high office politician.
Just my take after observing.
gee, maybe you do but i don't.
Gummint: ctrl-alt-del.
Politicians & gummint bureaucrats: sandpaper their skin off & bury them all in salt, then dump them all out in the middle if Nevada desert.
Please don't use my desert...find your own.
This pretty much says it all:
Porn problem permeates nearly every federal agency http://tinyurl.com/ktnq8xg
I can't stand reading this guy anymore; he's really a wing nut. I understand it's good click bait; but it's a complete waste of t ime.
CNN had a short blurb yesterday that one of the victims of MH17 was wearing an oxygen mask.
Doesn't that open a can of worms for crooked and corrupt governments?
Authoritarian or Democracy? What horseshit is this Martin? demoCRAZY is nothing more than authoritarian by majority rule. I totally disregard anyone spouting anything about democracy as it is a false god and a humanist religion spread by the state run media and enforced by the states gun toting priest called the police.
OK, but what is your preferred alternative?
So is an earthquake.
"At least then we can address a solution with some reasonable game plan."
Depends on what you believe "reasonable", my guess is 1-2 billion walking unfunded liabilities will have to go. The solution is liquidation of the unfunded walking liabilities, maybe he could ask for volunteers.
Under the right circumstances, many will self-liquidate - or will liquidate each other.
Welcome to Thunderdome! It's FSA vs. Social Security dependents. 100 million walk in, 50 million walk out.
57% of the US population lives within 100 miles of a coast and almost none of them have any useful skills. I figure a large part of the problem will be self-correcting and with the poverty pimps pushing a race war it might even start cleaning up the gene pool pretty quickly.
No Man....Super-volcano.....or economic collapse....I think I just rolled a 7
"authoritarian or democracy?"
Those are the same thing to a free man
That was my problem, those two outcomes are not mutally exclusive.
And using today's definitions, free anal probes by the policia might not be deemed authoritarian.
pods
Yeah, overlord or mob rule aren't great choices....
Without the protection of individual rights — i.e., inalienable rights that accordingly cannot be voted away — democracy is simply mob rule, which is precisely what Ben Franklin meant when he said, "When the people find they can voted themsevles money, that will herald the end of the Republic."
Suffice it to say, then, that our republic ended many decades ago and that none actually exist today, least of all in a world where money and banking have been corrupted out of all proportion by governments and those who control them.
So when Armstrong says that what's happening "is nothing to be afraid of," he couldn't be more wrong. There's a shitstorm coming of unprecedented proportions — call it economic ebola — and there's going to be hell for countless millions.
I hope you're prepared, so as not to be among them:
http://readynutrition.com/resources/52-weeks-to-preparedness-an-introduc...
billions, not millions perhaps.
Have no idea why MA would write something so stupid as not to fear what is coming.
I prefer to have the Republic I thought I had. You can have your Democracy, just leave me and the Republic alone.
Mad Max uses Bitcoin bitchez.
I would consider the USD no different than any crypto currency. Its all 1' and 0's on the Fed's monitor just like bitcoin.
No central authority issues bitcoins. As a result, there is no redistribution of the purchasing power of bitcoin earners. Saying that two things are the same because both are digital is like saying a snake and a dildo are the same because they are both physical.
Tmosely- I like a lot of your posts as you provide some valuable insight to different topics. I wish I could agree with you on bitcoin but I can not. The idea of bitcoin I do like but there is an issue that really makes me hate it. Its an issue most will likely not think of. That issue is the electrical grid. We all know how fragile the grid has become from even ZH articles stating how weak it is. It could go down fairly easy from solar flare or EMP. No electricity, no way to access bitcoin. If I rely solely on bitcoin as the currency of choice and that happens, what am i suppose to do if a terrible event mentioned above occurs? Thats why I always tell myself before investing in anything long-term - If I can not physically hold it in my hand , then I do not own it or can protect it. I may be way out there with my reasons why I dislike bitcoin, but at the end of the day it is my choice what i feel is the best way to secure my family's finances.
If I remember correctly, he also ate dogfood. So much for bitcoin purchasing power.
bitcoin requires power and internet. oh well.
Hmm, I thought I smelled somethin'.
Just another MA thread. It'll blow away soon.
That wasn't flatulence???
What do you call ISIS; that's about as' Mad Max' as you can get.
Anarchy, viciousness, stealing oil,tanks......
Only one problem: The military equipment wasn't stolen and the racist picture painted of "them muslims" by our black president is fake. Viciousness? Are they all born with USA hatred in their blood?
It's a setup for popular support to mobilize military movements by the little nation that controls the US.
Like I said before, when they behead a few Israelis and start heading for the Israeli border, I might give them some legitimacy.
ISIS is JV.
The US kills by the millions.with viciouness,leaving anarchy,over oil.
USA ,USA.
So far so good for the Satan Signal. No euro close ramp 15 minutes post close. The s&p could close below 1,900 today if not for massive intervention from the ny fed trading desk - which I don't lightly discount.
And nothing says onward and upward like testing new 52 week lows for TNX!
check out ARW solid downtrend.
https://www.tradingview.com/x/PoRf71MJ/....
Excuse me, Martin, but....
my pay was docked every single day I worked.....i paid Social Security.....
its too damn bad, the government spent the money on perks for itself, and on wars to protect and expand corporate interests.
I want it back. Its not an entitlement......IT WAS A FUCKING LOAN,
and people collecting SS are as "entitled" to repayment just as any holder of any US Treasury bond.
Amen, bro. 'Entitlement' fits a number of round holes, but SS is as square an investment as one can make - and with no choice, I might add.
It's theft in my opinion. Would you have stopped if you had the choice? I know I would. Hell, they can keep what they've stolen so far, and then just stop taking it from here on out. That's not possible of course because I'm paying for those on it now.
Take back what you can get, but never depend on it to survive. One day soon it will probably not be there.
When you elected yourself to the office of "Taxpayer" you agreed to pay into Social Security and pay taxes on your labor ( aka slavery ). Was it worth it?? If I had my way to do it over I never would have applied for an SS number nor elected myself a "Taxpayer". Brainwashed to never think I had a choice.
I will now and forever more swear I will never agree to another government contract and will forthwith try to extricate myself from them.
Loan? This slave be uppity! *CRACK!*
Re-education team, stat!
Plus 1 for Uppity
“its too damn bad, the government spent the money on perks for itself”
What do you do if you’re a six-year-old child living in a family and the dad spent the paycheck on hookers and blow?
1. You go without.
2. Your mom hits the streets and steals wallets from unsuspecting Johns.
3. Starve alone in the basement.
Kum bay ya, my Love, kum bay ya;
Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya;
Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya,
O Lord, kum bay ya.
IT WAS A FUCKING LOAN
If anything then it was an unsecured loan. Or what is the collateral that was put up by the borrower?
Good luck sucker!!
it's insurance .. on SOCIETY and the insurane company is going bankrupt.
WOW, Armstrong is so right.
Social contract is also breaking.
Shit, it's the same as ancient Rome. Following the same path. Right down to currency debasement, corrupt politics, bread and circuses, promises (pensions) being broken, soldiers looting the city, armies stretched too far and thin, etc.
In our case add in technology, fossil fuels (peak EROEI), social complexity , etc. Scary shit.
Game over folks. The only real questions are about how it plays out. But, to quote the Matrix (again)... "Kansas is going bye-bye"
You paid a tax into a Ponzi and you were stupid enough to believe it - but now you want to convince us of the same.
Sorry, you were a tool, a fool, and a sucker.
It was a tax. Your pay was not docked. You did not pay into SS, you don't get it back, it was not a loan, there is no repayment.
Taxes are not repayed and have no performance guarantee attached.
All of you spoilt boomers, silents and xérs need to smell the coffee, and get with reality.
Stop this childish whining.
For the record, I am a Boomer, and I expect nothing from SS.
Grow the fuck up.
Sorry, you were a tool, a fool, and a sucker.
That only applies if one were to voluntarily participate and believe it. Force, on the other hand... Do you understand the difference...tool? Shut the fuck up.
It was a tax, and like all your other taxes, you had no choice but to pay, and you have no right to ask for anything in return. (The Supreme Court has already decided this question - the government does not owe you diddley-squat in SS benefits.)
And no, that you allowed yourself to be misled as to the true nature of the situation, does not give you the right to steal from the younger generation. You'll be taking the money by force, just like it was taken from you. That's the reality, like it or not.
And, by the way, Social Security is not a Ponzi scheme. Ponzi’s scheme involved voluntary participation. Social Security isn’t like that; it’s not voluntary.
The more we call SS a Ponzi scheme, the more people are misled into thinking that most of us wanted to pay into it. We didn't and we don't.
He that does not work...neither shall he eat.
The way it should be.
I was expecting Moar Mad Max and all I got was Ozzie and Harriet.
I left the article depressed...
Not Mad Max.....just Fin Mad....more beer
Black women have children for the same reasons white women do. They have children because they want to have children.
You can trying to tell them to wait until their financial situation improves, but when they look around and most of the black people they see are in the same financial situation, have been, and likely will be in the future, you're basically telling them to wait until after menopause. Good luck with that.
I hate to say it but anyone deciding having kids in this environment must be crazy. I guess pregnancy is something people should actually save for, or they can count on companies offering permanent unpaid maternity leave.
Ms No, I actually Like to see that Good people reproduce. I would not trade my Grandsons for the world (or my son-in-law for that matter). 1st grandson planned his own go-bag before his 6th birthday, has been starting fires with flint&steel since age 5, is a good marksman, and is more aware/better prepared than over half of the adults I know.
The only way you can truly change a part of the world is by having kids and educating them.
Everything else comes close to navel gazing.
Children these days are mostly a by-product of Drunken One Night Stands, and made-to-order Welfare Recipients, get real will you, maybe 2 out of 10 women want a child for the other 8 it just happens.
Exactly. Palin Types are fun to play with, but dads like Levi never see his kid because the grandparents alienate the dads from the princess.
Bride-to-be 'becomes pregnant after having sex with dwarf stripper on hen night... and husband only realises when she gives birth'
Spanish woman had to confess to cheating on her husband with dwarf
It was after she gave birth to baby with dwarfism at hospital in Valencia
Woman's husband believed child was his until it was born, it is claimed
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Saw the pic over that waste of website. Looks like they should rename it "cow night."
moooooooo....
This:
Spanish woman had to confess to cheating on her husband with dwarf
AND if he leaves her for this action, she still gets half of his stuff, + alimony and child support for the mutant dwarf freak-child!!! Ain't the law grand!
Fucking feminism must die.
Why they want to have children is what's important. For many of them, it isn't out of love of children either. That's for damned sure.
This article cites having children for a “Retirement Plan”. Now that’s love, yo!
That is the exact way the world worked for millennium.
Your children helped feed you today, and tomorrow.
The childless ended up beggars and quicker-dead.
Now, instead, we ship them off to homes, demand others pay for it, deny that math exists and then scream about "promises."
I told my ex for years he should pull his head from his ass and treat his son with love and respect as his son will be the only one that could care enough to feed him when he is old and decrepit.
He laughed.
Funny thing that is, he is now trying to double down and lavish love and gifts on the grandgift, hoping that she doesn't grow up and see him for the selfish ass that he is.
Meanwhile, my two kids (20 some years apart, like an idiot I thought I should be able to support them myself) show me the myriad ways that they will be around to help me when I need it.
Of course that starts with my helping them to grow up and be happy, productive, self-reliant, humans.
Anyone counting on a dime "back" from their stolen labor is fooling themselves. Want "your" money you were "promised?"
Get fired now, lose assets now, get hit by a truck now, then go on the teat.
It is going to pay wonderfully right up until the day math wins again.
But unless you are retiring in the next few years, those "promises" aren't worth the papers they were printed on.
But that's wrong. NOONE wants to have 8 children. Not unless there is an enormous economic advantage to that.
And poor white women pop them out for the same reason poor black women do. Rich black women have fewer kids too. It's beyond me as to why he had to shoehorn race into a basic economic discussion.
Taketheredpillredpill
I could care less what reason they are having kids just don't force me to pay for their irresponsible breeding habits. And yes, blacks have a monetary incentive to have as many kids by as many sperm donors as possible. It's a matter of the irresponsible bleeding the responsible dry.
unwashedmass :Excuse me, Martin, but....my pay was docked every single day I worked.....i paid Social Security.....
Its too damn bad, the government spent the money on perks for itself, and on wars to protect and expand corporate interests.
I want it back. Its not an entitlement......IT WAS A FUCKING LOAN,
and people collecting SS are as "entitled" to repayment just as any holder of any US Treasury bond.
I beliieve it is a tax that goes into a general slush fund. There is no SS "lockbox"..
Sorry Charlie...Your SOL... Government blew it on wars, material for wars and goodies for the FSA.
Now the really cool thing is they passed it off as a ponzi and the people bit like a sailfish, mouth wide open, eyes wide shut.
They have the millennials believing you and your ilk ripped them off rather than their bad economic policy. They scare us by telling us there are only 2.3 workers for every recipient. They don't mention the offshoring of high wage jobs and the on shoring of low wage replacements (H1B) or the slaves from Central America for everything else. And should I dare mention abortion? And per SOP everyone believes the lie because it's so much easier hating Grandma than the real scoundrels hiding out in domed structures making 8-9 times the poverty level of many Americans and claiming that isn't enough compensation for the 'work' they do. Add the 100% medical and full salary pensions they have a real sweet deal. All paid by............... you. But are the majority upset at that... nope, no matter what, it's all grandma's fault.
Why? Because we didn't and still do not demand accountability from government. We are too busy infighting while the real criminals steal us blind. Everyone of us knows the score but we all just sit back and pretend.
I agree the boomers share in the fault but it's really all the generations. The largest increases in debt has been during the last 6 years. Sorry, but that includes the millennials and everyone else.
In November the same idiots will offer some more crumbs and be re-elected. Until Americans decide to clean house it will only get worse until the whole shebang implodes.
It's really up to us.
Which way will it go ?!?!?!? Are you fucking KIDDING ME ?!?!?!
Have you SEEN all the atrocities this gov't has committed without ANY pushback from the sheeple ?!??! If you listen at ANY airport in America where people are standing in line to be groped by the TSA agents in a guilty til proven innocent situation, you can actually hear the people going "BAAAAA". We've been pussified into total submission. MEN ?!?!? Who the fuck are they? Oh yeah, the WW2 vets who went to national parks after they were shut down defying the tyranny with walkers and canes. A single one of 80-90 year old guys has more balls than all the "men" in any college in America combined. We have already surrendered. Wait until they mandate Ebola vaccines, and we line up like the cattle we've become to accept it without question. Pretty much every politician in DC should have their head on a pike for the treason they've committed, but nope, we sit by and ask for more ass raping. Disgusting.
To ZH's credit.
It's anybody's guess where WWIII will start ,but you can put a bet on the fact that if Secret Chimp makes good on his maneuvers in Syria and Iraq Russia will be making certain that the Kiev government is finished -all against the backdrop of a pandemic Ebola that will be played better than a violin in the hands of "Itzhak Perlman" to distract us from that Armageddon thing taking place in the Middle East and Europe...
I ask this question again to all the folks in the U.S. military and "yes" even the guns for hire at Academi and Dyncorp...
What the fuck is wrong with your brains?!!!...
Let's hope if their is anything left of you to study once this Party gets really cookin, we'll have plenty of specimens to study to teach future generations of what "freak show" it was in the 21st Century!
Slow news day.
Friday,Saturday,Sunday and Monday is ebola and other bad news days for a media blackout. They want all of us to attend a football game or go shopping without worry. Basically spend money. Tuesdays,Wednesdays and Thursdays are the news days for ebola and other bad shit.
taketheredpill: Black women have children for the same reasons white women do. They have children because they want to have children.
Smart women get paid by FEDGOV to shit out babies. It's big business.
Black women abort 85% of their pregnancies
...and Republicans are the Racist?
Facts are racist? I guess Pi = 3.14 offends you too, fuck head?
Blacks are responsible for 58% of murders in USA but only make up 13% of the population.
--Eric Holders's own DOJ reports those stats every year.
The real racists are afraid to point out problems in the black community because they don't want to fix them.
Please prove that.
What I see are GENERATIONS of "single" mothers, all on the gubment teat in one way or another (though around here, union teats are the best to latch on to).
My ex had a friend - probably still does - that ran a Planned Parenthood branch.
She was usually shocked when a young black woman would come in.
They know EXACTLY how to make the most money, and it isn't scrounging up $400 for an abortion.
Keep the kid, then sit back and watch the free shit flow.
Tough call. Assuming you're a single mother, making a living by taking of kids by yourself has got to be the toughest gig in the world.
"Which way will it fall – authoritarian or democracy?"
Neither one is an acceptable choice.
Is Lance OK??
I think he still plays the trumpet.
Not cryptic enough, boris
The government feeders will bite the hands that were forced to feed them. What has changed since Greeks elected tyrants? Sheeple always crave a king.
They're like rubber biscuits that don't bounce back: you go hungry. (Thanks to The Chips and the Blues Brothers.)
I thought we were already living Mad Max. You mean this sh*t is going to get worse?