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Martin Armstrong Warns "A Mad Max Event Is Possible"

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Excerpted from Armstrong Economics,

We are at a crossroads. The tree has been cut. Which way will it fall – authoritarian or democracy? We can make a difference.

Step one is understanding what is the problem. At least then we can address a solution with some reasonable game plan.

mad-max
 
We have a great convergence coming. It is nothing to be afraid of and it is nothing we can ignore. Yes a Mad Max event is possible.
 
The average person depends upon government tremendously – even those not on welfare. There are pensions and Social Security that people really believe they are “entitled” to and thus these benefits will exist. What happens when they realize they do not?
 
Socialism has even changed the historic bounds of family. You had 4 to 6 kids for that was your retirement. The kids knew they had the responsibility of taking care of their parents. Today – that’s government’s job. Everything has been changed to depend upon government that never tells the truth and they will defend to the very last drop of your blood.
 
Marriage-Medeval
 
Marriages were ARRANGED! The age difference was typically 25% during the 19th century. To sell movies, Hollywood turned lust into love at first sight. They painted the image of happily-ever-after. I spoke with film makers and they all said people did not want to leave a movie feeling depressed. They glorified marriage and set unrealistic standards. Consequently, the age difference collapsed and the divorce rate rose to 60%+ because of unrealistic expectations.
Pensions began as the marriage contract. The man had to first establish himself and then propose. The Dowry was all about ensuring the wife would be secure – the pension. It was not about “love at first sight” yet according to things like Match.COM, 70% of people dating expect love-at-first-sight. So many people have the wrong expectation of marriage and are thus doomed from the start.
 
Even the Black family was stronger than the white family before welfare. When you paid women not to be married and to have children, you change the family structure. Socialism has significantly altered the behavior of every race all based upon expectations of government.
 
MA-FeedingBird
 
Free food changes behavior be it people or animals. Being compassionate is to be human. To give a man a free fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and your feed him for a lifetime. Government adopted the first strategy to create dependency upon the political system.
 
They tell you do not feed the bears in Yellowstone National Park because they then look for free food and no longer hunt. Humans are no different. What happens when government collapses and people are totally unprepared because they never thought government collapses?
 

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Fri, 10/10/2014 - 11:58 | 5314432 Bell's 2 hearted
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ebola will mate with dengue fever

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:13 | 5314493 SpanishGoop
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Dengibola ?

Sounds better.

 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 11:56 | 5314414 Bill of Rights
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A young Israeli calls on his fellow citizens to move to Berlin. Life is cheaper there than in Tel Aviv, he says. Israel's politicians are outraged. SPIEGEL ONLINE met the 25-year-old in Berlin.

"We have waited three years for our politicians to do something", the 25-year-old says. "But nothing has changed. Our Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu always talks about the threat posed by Iran and rockets, but he never says anything about the high costs of living."

Olim Le Berlin: In Israel a Facebook Page causes an uproar - SPIEGEL ONLINE

 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:15 | 5314835 cornedmutton
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"...but he never says anything about the high costs of living."

That's what happens when you live in the middle of THE FUCKING DESERT!

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 11:56 | 5314418 SethDealer
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Free Shit Army !!

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 11:56 | 5314420 FieldingMellish
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Like Sinclair, Armstrong has reached the age where senility sets in.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 11:56 | 5314421 Bell's 2 hearted
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Germany exports (august)

 

expected ... -4.0%

 

actual ... -5.8%

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 11:58 | 5314424 Moustache Rides
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Cue "Master Blaster runs Bartertown" jokes

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:00 | 5314441 himaroid
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That's their problem.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:02 | 5314443 Pumpkin
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 authoritarian or democracy?

 

Not much of a choice there.  How about a republic?  You know, like the constitution for The United States of America guarantees to every state?  This is our problem today.  Even the people smart enough to know something is terribly wrong have no real clue as to what it is.

 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:09 | 5314464 g'kar
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The Constitution, like gold, is a barbarous relic from a past, evil time, and best forgotten.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:10 | 5314479 Spastica Rex
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WAR IS PEACE,

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY,

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH,

and

DEMOCRACY IS TYRANNY.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:23 | 5314527 g'kar
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1984 is another barbarous relic best forgotten. We need to burn moar books.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:35 | 5314611 headhunt
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forgot - PELOSI IS GOOD LOOKING AND SMART

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:48 | 5314694 the grateful un...
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Warpies (for Star Trek fans)

FreddieKrulgery (mayhem is freedom)

Ignoblengths ( he went to great lengths to create discord)

Democranny (quintessential Joyce)

your Portmanteus for the day

"impovernment of the booble, by the bauble, and for the bubble" Finnegans Wake

Sat, 10/11/2014 - 01:38 | 5317653 g'kar
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"DEMOCRACY IS TYRANNY."

 

Nice one.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:07 | 5314474 JetsettingWelfareMom
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Electric went out for a week at our house in Thailand. No worries. My mother in law started a fire for cooking the next morning and we had campfire coffee and sticky rice like nothing happened. Annoying to drive into town for my internet connection, but not much really changed. 

My mom's electricity went out for two hours in Las Vegas. She was freaking out about starving and how all the meat in the freezer would have salmonella and what was she going to do. I asked her why she didn' have a cook out on her old charcoal grill. She'd never even thought of such a thing.

TPTB have spent a long time breeding a coddled, ignorant and utterly dependent population....here's hoping there's some fast learners if TSHTF...

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:10 | 5314480 the grateful un...
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armstrong should stick to finances and leave the culture questions to TV writers (BrBd and Walking Dead). nothing stokes our paranoid delusions more than miniseries about apocalyptic turns. some axioms from popular culture are worth remembering, there is never a cop around when you need one, the real problem is what happens when you call 911 and no one is there. the state without police is a far more likely outcome.  government may or may not function well enough, but cooperation is what won the american west. (the myth of individualism is the template for just about every narrative that exists today, including Ayn Rand) in the revised american west vigilantes hanging rustlers is a negative image,  henry fonda was a true blue republican who starred in a few of these pictures, Oxbow Incident and Twelve Angry Men. the power always believes in the law, because they own it. just as right now prosecuting bankers for their crimes is considered rough justice. rough or smooth justice deserves its day. that's the lesson of the old west we need to remember.

 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 18:54 | 5314652 boattrash
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Maybe Martin would let me give him a tour of the backwoods in this broke-ass state of Arkansas, where Everyday Life is much like a "Mad Max Event" for most.

That does not mean it's a bad thing though, as those "who have the most" actually "have the most to lose".

I've known old timers that lived through the Great Depression here. One is quoted as saying "Yeah, we read something about it in a newspaper once, but we never could tell any difference".

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:18 | 5314510 Son of Captain Nemo
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A Mad Max Event is possible!

Anyone up for a "swim" to take out that terrible burn rate?

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:17 | 5314512 sharonsj
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Oh, please!  Social Security and pensions are not entitlements--people have paid into these programs for decades--in some cases for 50 years--and they expect a return for their money.

Free food--no food is free.  The poor, elderly and disabled get food stamps to help them survive.  Food stamps keep the grocery stores and the farmers afloat.  Parts of the economy would collapse without food stamps because--in case Mr. Armstrong missed this too--the country is in a recession and some parts are in a depression.

He reminds me of the rightwingers who claimed that Obama voters were gifted with a free cell phone (I'm still waiting for mine).  In the meantime the Agency on Aging said they might give me a phone if I qualified but that I'd still have to pay the phone bills.  So there's no such thing as "free" cell phones either.

His babblings are complete twaddle.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:33 | 5314596 headhunt
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Social Security was bankrupted by leftist policies - they cannot give enough free-shit away fast enough.

With the extended life expectancy most people collect far more SS than they contribute.

The economy would do fine without food stamps, the illegals would be sent back home so Americans had a job.

No-one is opposed to helping those who need real help but we have millions who don't work because they get free-shit from another working persons paycheck.

We all are willing to help but we are not willing to give up our rights and hard earned cash (terrorist alert! 'cash' mentioned) for people too lazy to work.

 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:49 | 5314692 p00k1e
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The Republicans gave their SS money to Michele Bachmann.  She took care of unwanted (foster) children with the cash.  Republicans are nice. 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:18 | 5314515 bvrulez
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martin armstrong find's "socialism is evil" and "germany is a socialist country." well, you fucker, we are doing pretty good over here. maybe YOU are the problem.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:21 | 5314528 Republi-Ken
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ARMSTRONG IS A TOTAL F-IN IDIOT.

THIS IS SOMEONE TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING TO WRITE ABOUT

SO HE JUST DOES GARBAGE

HILARIOUS

THIS FUCK THINKS "HE" SPOTS THE GREAT MACRO TREND OF HISTORY

GO BURY YOUR HEAD BACK IN YOUR CONSERVATIVE LIBERTARIAN ASS.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:26 | 5314564 Son of Captain Nemo
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That you "Quince"?...

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:21 | 5314533 Smegley Wanxalot
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Lord Humungus FTW!

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:26 | 5314555 Glasgow Gary
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Wow. Martin Armstrong. I'd completely forgotten about him and his ideas, and with good reason.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:31 | 5314589 Son of Captain Nemo
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Wow. Martin Armstrong. I'd completely forgotten about him and his ideas, and with good reason.

Okay Gordon I know it's Friday, but you really must finish that "double malt" and get back to work at your unpaid job at the UN!

You generous bugger!

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:27 | 5314566 SheepDog-One
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I don't want to have to wear assless chaps!

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:30 | 5314572 petkovplamen
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Cool! I got my leather jacket ready and Im studing the Mad max movies very closely to know what will be like.

 

/Sarc

 

What a BS article. yet again talking about "entitlements" and failing to mention the 6 trillions spent on fake "wars on terror".

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:31 | 5314582 e_goldstein
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Frankly the Mad Max scenario is preferable to being stuck in (the movie) Brazil.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:35 | 5314591 alexcojones
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"Road Warrior" was a great movie.

Mad Max not so much. But this scene was well ... you watch and remember

Mad Max 2 Opening Chase
Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:40 | 5314980 CuttingEdge
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The car chase at the beginning of the first one was iconic, as was the end scene:

"The chain in those handcuffs is high-tensile steel. It'd take you ten minutes to hack through it with this. Now, if you're lucky, you could hack through your ankle in five minutes. Go."

 

I prefer the first - raw and brutal for the most part, whereas the second was better directed and more polished, but didn't give the same buzz.The kid's boomerang bit was funny as fuck though.

 

 

 

 

 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:35 | 5314594 medium giraffe
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I remember a time of chaos.

Ruined dreams.

This wasted land.

But most of all, I remember The Road Warrior.

The man we called "Max".

To understand who he was, you have to go back to another time.

When the world was powered by the black fuel. And the desert sprouted great cities of pipe and steel.

Gone now, swept away.

For reasons long forgotten, two mighty warrior tribes went to war and touched off a blaze which engulfed them all.

Without fuel, they were nothing. They built a house of straw. The thundering machines sputtered and stopped.

Their leaders talked and talked and talked.

But nothing could stem the avalanche.

Their world crumbled. The cities exploded. A whirlwind of looting, a firestorm of fear. Men began to feed on men.

On the roads it was a white line nightmare. Only those mobile enough to scavenge, brutal enough to pillage would survive. The gangs took over the highways, ready to wage war for a tank of juice.

And in this maelstrom of decay, ordinary men were battered and smashed.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:53 | 5315041 Dublinmick
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If you liked Mad Max, spend some time in Northern Iraq. You will be right at home watching ISIS operate.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:39 | 5314632 gwar5
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Promises will be broken and the lies exposed. When the people complain in the streets the guns will come out.

The good news is that the current oligarchs and politicians have thoroughly and permanently demolished their own legitimacy. So Americans will fight any violence with violence out of rage and moral duty. That includes the military and most LEOs outside of the major urban centers.

Just talked to a female bank branch manager, she made no bones about her family stockpiling ammo, food, etc. and she knew exactly who was to blame.  

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:52 | 5314712 p00k1e
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“Just talked to a female bank branch manager… and she knew exactly who was to blame.”

Your bankers problem is the average bank depositor doesn’t have Yellon’s home address.  But that depositor will know where to find the branch manager for sex and then target practice for losing the depoits.   

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:41 | 5314634 Son of Captain Nemo
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Paying our respects to the pivotal moment that got us where we are today!

If this isn't the height of arrogance and corruption with no boundaries tell me what is?

America and 9/11 RIP !

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:44 | 5314670 Callz d Ballz
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I just want the V8 Interceptor...

(said in strong Australian accent)

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:54 | 5315301 Donutwarrior
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A piece of history....

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:46 | 5314676 malek
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Excellent article by Martin!

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:47 | 5314689 Seb
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4 to 6 kids? Genius.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:25 | 5314889 gaoptimize
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We would have a much better financial outlook as a nation and probably be building L-5 space colonies had the clever and moral people in this country continued this practice in resistance to the Left/Communist Conspiracy's attempt to undermine the family and our values.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:47 | 5314690 22winmag
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Unless I'm mistaken, modern-day democracy is authoritarianism.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:48 | 5314695 alexcojones
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Thanks Medium

I had forgotten what a well-written opening voice over that was to Road Warrior.

Hollywood doesn't make movies like that anymore -

Because that film was made in OZ

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:48 | 5314696 SMC
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Possible? It has already begun.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:53 | 5314722 p00k1e
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Yes.  I’m really unsure why the Ferguson Rioter’s don’t surround a police station, toss a cocktail atop the building then shoot the cockroaches as they flee the flames.   

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:08 | 5314793 Uncle Remus
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Theater.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:24 | 5314873 p00k1e
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Eric Frein shooter types + Ferguson rioter types need to be blended somehow. 

 

America needs more resistance leaders.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:07 | 5314792 centerline
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Has been under way for quite some time.  Is a process.  Slower the better from the perspective of those who have the most to lose.  Resisting sudden changes are what all the effort is about.  It buys time. 

Frog in boiling water analogy. 

Except that there are breaking points.  So, as best as possible, adjustments are being made ad hoc to hold it all together until it is no longer possible. 

And worst of all, there is no plan.  Each country is making this shit up as they go.

Frank Zappa said it best... about someday looking at the brick wall at the back of the theater.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:51 | 5315028 Dublinmick
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Yeah I definitely look to Zappa's road map to find the way home. How is his daughter God Zappa doing?

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:28 | 5315214 SILVERGEDDON
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Dude.

Seriously.

Her real name is Moon Unit.

You must have eaten a LOT of yellow snow to fuck up that badly............................

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:13 | 5314825 pupdog1
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I too have been to the mall lately.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 12:52 | 5314715 Atticus Finch
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..." Social Security that people really believe they are “entitled” to"

Well, excuse me! I contributed to the fund for 50 years, a half century. Over that time the fund has been continously looted for Government pork, and used for purposes it was never intended for. Had Social Security been left untouched, and applied only to its intended use, it would have a surplus of over $2 trillion dollars.

I guess the writer forgot about the TBTF entitlement of over 23 trillion dollars!

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:08 | 5314796 ncdirtdigger
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I find it sad to think you believed in a Ponzi scheme for the better part of 50 years. All I can say to you is F*** you! If you think I am going to pay out my ass just because you were too stupid to see a ponzi when it was put right in front of you.
Long Dog Food Old timers.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:22 | 5314865 JR
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Dear Non Worker,

Since you plan on non participation in the Social Security “Ponzi scheme,” I can only assume that the only way you’re able to achieve this is by not working. So what other federal programs am I now paying for that finance your existence?

Sincerely,

JR

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:09 | 5314814 pupdog1
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I go fruitbatshit fucking crazy when someone calls SS an entitlement--I have been paying into an account with my name on it since I was 16 years old, and thieving self-enriching grifting political cunts like Feinstein and Reid have been stealing from that lockbox ever since.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:45 | 5315001 Leraconteur
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You never paid into an account with your name on it, there was never a lockbox and thus no one stole anything.

It is and was a tax.

Everyone needs to face reality and stop deluding themselves. 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:14 | 5315157 Leraconteur
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Downvoting my comment is not going to change reality.
Stop throwing a tantrum and grow up. It was a tax and the money is gone. 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:43 | 5314986 Leraconteur
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I contributed to the fund for 50 years, a half century.

 

No, Atticus, you paid A TAX. I know that you THINK, you FEEL, you BELIEVE that you contributed to a fund for 50 years, but you did not. It was just a line itemised tax on your pay stub. 

As such it was all spent within 14 days of your receipt of your paycheck, and as such it has no guarantee of performance, merit or result - as all taxes are.

You were deluded. You were lied to and now you continue to lie to yourself.

It is not your money, you do not have an account balance, you did not contribute to a fund, there is none of your money in any location, you are not entitled to it, and it is not yours.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:59 | 5315065 JR
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What you are really saying is that taxes are criminal. That the promise of services to be delivered by the government via your money will not be met.

If this is the case, as it appears to be, then it is time for a tax revolt. No taxation without representation!

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:35 | 5315241 p00k1e
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How many people still ‘contribute’ to 401K plans and carry a mortgage even after seeing 401Ks can get whacked 50% between statements? 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:02 | 5314760 eddiebe
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Well Martin, maybe you don't need to be afraid, but I'm very afraid.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:06 | 5314779 JR
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There are pensions and Social Security that people really believe they are “entitled” to and thus these benefits will exist… -- Martin Armstrong 

How could the retirees have been so stupid to believe that the government would deliver on its Social Security promise, even though they were forced by the full power of the federal government to relinquish their incomes to finance this Ponzi scheme?

How could they have foreseen that the government’s need through rampant inflation for the money it would need to operate this Leviathan would include taking their “social security” trust?

I’m getting sick of these people, the Martin Armstrongs, who consistantly describe the problem but ignore the true causes.

The truth is government has become a cancer. The truth is these doomsday scenarios are depicting the welfare bomb, created by the government and not the producers, that’s coming any day.

The so-called reformers - and this scenario fits - suggest new promises, new cuts. But all ignore the massive increase in illegal immigration and transfer of middle class wealth to the non producers. All ignore the deep state whereby the financial masters confiscated the American Dream built before 1913 upon liberty and free enterprise -- now being destroyed by the graduated income tax, the Federal Reserve Act, FDR’s Social Security scam, Johnson’s Great Society, and Bush’s and Obama’s socialist NWO , i.e., globalization.

Here's the truth: the producers never asked  for this exploitation; the producers still sacrifice for their parents with only a miniscule number putting their parents in nursing homes; the  baby boomer producers still provide a home for their children now out of work and pick up the tab for much of their children educational debt.

Why do these prospects of doom never explain why SS is in default? Why is it that the people who work and don’t rely on the welfare system are constantly being exploited and economically pushed down further while the bankers become richer and the unwashed masses vote increased transfers of wealth not only to the bankers and politicians but to themselves?

The truth is that this complicit banker-owned Congress destroyed SS not only by overloading it with non-paying welfare recipients but by transferring the SS trust money to  the General Fund and spending it.

Here’s more of the truth:

Welfare Use by Immigrant Households:A Look at Cash, Medicaid, Housing, and Food Programs

By Steven A. Camarota April 2011 (excerpts)

 

  • Households with children with the highest welfare use rates are those headed by immigrants from the Dominican Republic (82 percent), Mexico and Guatemala (75 percent), and Ecuador (70 percent). Those with the lowest use rates are from the United Kingdom (7 percent), India (19 percent), Canada (23 percent), and Korea (25 percent).
  • The states where immigrant households with children have the highest welfare use rates are Arizona (62 percent); Texas, California, and New York (61 percent); Pennsylvania (59 percent); Minnesota and Oregon (56 percent); and Colorado (55 percent).
  • Welfare use tends to be high for both new arrivals and established residents. In 2009, 60 percent of households with children headed by an immigrant who arrived in 2000 or later used at least one welfare program; for households headed by immigrants who arrived before 2000 it was 55 percent.
  • The eight major welfare programs examined in this report are SSI (Supplemental Security Income for low income elderly and disabled), TANF (Temporary Assistance to Needy Families), WIC (Women, Infants, and Children food program), free/reduced school lunch, food stamps (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program), Medicaid (health insurance for those with low incomes), public housing, and rent subsidies.

http://cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011\

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:44 | 5315002 Dublinmick
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Teach Martin Armstrong to fish in the Pacific, or give him some Gulf shrimp.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:06 | 5314781 rejected
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Democracy == Tyranny of the majority

Dictator == Tyranny of the one.

So, What's the common denominator here.

 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:08 | 5314800 Uncle Remus
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Zero.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:25 | 5314867 Ariadne
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Lies. Wampeters, foma, granfalloons, and a remarkable genetic corelation between professional politicians and professional criminals.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 15:36 | 5315568 madcows
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don't forget canards, halftruths and misrememberings.

Mon, 10/13/2014 - 09:22 | 5323580 madcows
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Vonneguts great.  Slaughterhouse 5 is my #2 book of all time, right behind steinbecks grapes of wrath.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:43 | 5315000 JR
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Both involve the destruction of the inherent and unalienable rights of individual man. Both destroy life, liberty and property. In a dictatorship one man takes away man’s God-given rights; in a democracy fifty-one percent of the people take away the rights of the other forty-nine.

Mob rule always culminates in a dictatorship.

“It had been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience had proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity.”
Alexander Hamilton June 21, 1788

The newest trick now being employed in the United States is to have a tyranny of the few and make it look like a democracy. The central bank and its co-conspirators use the mob to get what they want and call it representative government.

When America’s predominantly white population failed to fall for the banker scheme of a one-world socialist state, the banker-controlled Congress imported Third World voters to override the nation's indigenous will.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 15:36 | 5315561 madcows
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I find it awkward that you use Hamilton's quotes against the central bank.  He was the man that invented our "modern" form of finance.  His was the predecessor of the fed.

besides, the FED just enables bloated government, and gets a big cut for laundering their money.

The true tyranny lies in the fact that one man, one vote no longer matters.  Politicians stay in power forever.  they are funded enormously by big interests.  The legislation is written by those same big interests. And the pols sell out, in return for funding their next campaign.  The pol stays in power, which he likes, and the big interest parties get their legislation, which they like. 

Joe mainstreet gets assraped, which joe doesnt like. 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:09 | 5314805 Hohum
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Solution is easy: Mr. Armstrong has to go Galt.  Give up his job writing and go back to the land.  The thing that I call living is being satisfied and having no one else to blame.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:09 | 5314807 Buster Cherry
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Since my rural home has a backup generator and solar, I will be bartering.

Folks with friendly affectionate hot daughters can store their food in my freezers and occasionally get a hot shower. There will be no boarders though....

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:09 | 5315137 Pickleton
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Their friendly affectionate daughters all have STDs from the other scumbag pedophiles like you.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:53 | 5314812 JuliaS
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When talking arranged marriage, pensions and welfare state socialism, the first movie that comes to mind, surely, is "Mad Max".

How can anyone forget Max falling in love at first sight, having 8 kids and retiring to a fat governmetn pension. Damn you, Hollywood for using the movie to set my expectations so high!

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:20 | 5314854 xcehn
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Ebola is Katrina on steroids. That's plenty Mad Max.

"General: Expect ‘Mass Migration’ to U.S. if Ebola Comes to Central America"

http://time.com/3486009/marine-general-john-kelly-ebola-migration/

"U.S. military official: Ebola could spread into Central and South America, and from there North"

http://boingboing.net/2014/10/09/u-s-military-official-ebola.html

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:19 | 5314855 jon
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oh yeah? well i hope the "event" is a sequel, because the first one sucked

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:23 | 5314872 N57Mike
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"A year later in June, 1939, when Cayce (Edgar) gave a discourse on the major problems confronting the American people, it again warned of possible revolution. ...
The ideals, the purposes that called the nation into being are well...there needs to be on the part of each man, each woman, the adhering to those principles that caused the formulating of the American thought.
...if there is the turning of every man and woman to the thought of God, then we may solve every problem...Ye are to have turmoils...That such is to be a part of the experience of America is because of unbelief!...Unless there is a more universal oneness of purpose on the part of all, this will one day bring—here—in America—revolution!

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:28 | 5314899 p00k1e
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Here’s the EC translation.

“…warned of possible revolution…”

Relax!  The words clearly show there will be no revolution.  Although, revolution was possible, it did not take place. 

   

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:24 | 5314875 MeBizarro
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More certifable idiocy and complete BS from Armstrong.

1) Concept of retirement simply didn't really exist until after WW2 due to the simple fact of average life span being less than 60 years old for males and 65 for females.  Most people simply worked until they were physically unable at which point their family took care of them or they died. 

2) Fact about marriage is also wrong in the 19th century and what changed the concept of marriage was two things in the US - No-fault divorce laws starting in CA in '69 and becoming almost universal in every state by '85; birth control becoming available after WW2 and becoming widely social acceptable in the 70s. 

Op-ed writers on here right some awful stuff and I would be embarrassed to have my name attached to it as the author. 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 16:36 | 5315980 FrankDrakman
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You are so full of shit, it's amazing you can type. The first Western pensions were created by Otto Bismarck in the 19th century, long before WWII, And 'average life span' is the wrong figure to use, as it was distorted by the very high infant mortality at the time. (e.g. 4 guys live to average age 70, one kid dies at a childbirth - average life span is now 56); if you survived mumps, measles, the pox, etc., as a kid, you had a great chance to live to 70, as you ate less processed food and chemicals than you do today, and probably exercised more. Plenty of people lived into their 70's and 80's in late 19th-century Europe.

Birth control has very little to do with marriage; marriage rates were much the same in the 1970's as they were in the 1870's. Divorce also isn't a factor in suppressing marriage; unfair divorce settlements combined with 'palimony' might be. No sane man would marry today without an iron-clad pre-nup, as the current law is so biased against the man, it's revolting. The combination of easy divorce, unfair divorce settlement, and welfare laws that encourage women to eschew long-term male relationships - that's causing the breakdowns we see in the family unit. If you can't see it, you're blind.

"Op-ed writers on here right some awful stuff " I only wish your thoughts could be 'righted', as they are quite poorly written.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 18:18 | 5316421 MeBizarro
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Life span in the US dramatically trailed Europe in the late 19th century and it didn't not catch up and equal it until the 1920s. 

Reichstag approved the Old Age and Disability Insurance Law of of 1889 (pension annuity for workers who reached 70) precisely because almost no working men reached that age and payment did not begin until age 71.  It affected less than 1% of the population in Germany at the time and the total of the population in Germany aged 65 and older in 1900 was <3% vs >20% today.  A very small percentage of the populaton in Europe in the late 19th century lived to their 70s and 80s and it was overwhelming female. 

Most workers including white collar workers were excluded until '11 (Reichsversicherungsordnung) and it wasn't until '27 that farmers, craftsman, and artists were included.

Sie unwissend Scheiße.

As for marriage, birth control certainly plays a role as it allows people to have sex without the issue of pregnancy.  It is has also been about more women have much greater earning power and being able to support themselves financially. 

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/02/the-death-and-life-o...

 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:28 | 5314910 Clesthenes
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Step one is understanding the problem.  At least then we can address a solution with some reasonable game plan.”

So true… “understanding the problem.”

The problem is that Americans have the power to redress any grievance that could be named; and they refuse to use that power. There are three main reasons for this failure: one is that they have no knowledge of such power; the second, they’ve been herded into a kind of impotent stupor by medication and indoctrination; the third, that they aid, benefit or were complicit in such evil (full article).

They don’t even know many of the most fundamental rights and powers won by our Revolution… actually, “confirmed” would be a better verb.

To begin, according to the law of redress, those who complain are supposed to also suggest a remedy, and, before you can do this, you have to get rid of that indoctrination and replace it with real facts of history.

As to the ignorance relative to lost American ideals: who knows that every American (preamble citizen) has the right to withhold taxes until government redresses his grievances; or that there is probably not a constitutional tax on the books, among other lost rights and powers?

Redress before taxes” was a “Grand Right” declared by the Continental Congress, which also declared it to be a reason for the Revolution.

Further, Founders repeatedly declared the co-called right of consent: that no man was obligated to obey any law or pay any tax unless he gave his personal consent to such.  Did they really mean that? Of course they did.  They had been living by those rules from the first English settlement to the Revolution.  That is, according to the origin of English/American law, “laws” and “taxes” originated in contracts between various assemblies and those who petitioned for redress of grievances.  Terms of such contracts were sometimes referred to as “laws” and money payments as “taxes”.  And, no one but petitioners were obligated to obey or pay such “laws” or “taxes”; that is, all non-petitioners were exempt from such.  Further, when redress was completed, such “laws” and ‘taxes” were extinguished.

Today we no longer live according to American law: for, petitioners make themselves exempt from laws and taxes necessitated by their redress while all non-petitioners are saddled with such burdens.  For example, when munitions makers, big banks, and Main Stream Media wish for another war, they petition Congress, Congress grants authority for the war, petitioners receive the booty of war and non-petitioners are stiffed with the expenses (thru payment of taxes and the blood and ruined lives of their male children).  This inversion of American law is generally known as Persian law, law of the conqueror, law of the high seas, mouth law, martial law, ecclesiastical law… it goes by many names.

If you know nothing of the law and procedures of redress, and nothing of the ideals of liberty, how possibly can you achieve a condition of liberty?

I have great news for everyone: Americans won the Revolution; which means these rights and powers are our legacy.  It really doesn’t matter tho: if American Founders had not declared, and won, them, we’d have to invent them.

However, until a few Americans (1%-2%) learn, and use, their legacy, victims and witnesses (such as Carmen Segarra) will just have to suffer alone, and, eventually, forgotten.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:47 | 5314925 Clesthenes
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Skip this, had posting error, C

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:36 | 5314937 limacon
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Everybody should be safer after the police arrive .

http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2011/04/judicial-systems-and-singularity.html

Without Law humans collapse back to below family level 

http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2013/04/social-collapse-to-below-family-le...

 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:43 | 5314987 Dublinmick
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Teach a man to fish in the Pacific or the Gulf of BP (Mexico) and you will not have to worry about him again. He will die from pollution.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:47 | 5315015 Bubenthauser
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Get outta here. Such an event won't be foreseen/perceived coming by anyone. Or very few. Certainly not this guy.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:49 | 5315023 Blue Vervain
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There are pensions and Social Security that people really believe they are “entitled” to.

 

Silly me for actually believing I was entitled to the pension I've been paying my wages into for the past twenty years! What must I have been thinking?

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:53 | 5315039 DFCtomm
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The law of the nature is always in effect. We plaster over it with civilization, but if we allow our civilization to falter then nature is always waiting to take us in. You are entitled to what you can take and hold according to her.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:15 | 5315164 JR
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You are entitled to what you can take and hold according to her.

You are confusing the philosophy of gangs and robbers with the principles that built Western civilization. The Founders instituted the contract society whereby individuals profited by using the resources of each other for mutual progress.

This "take what you can" idea does not fit Nature’s rule that man is a social animal; civilization is merely the advanced stage of human social development and organization.

And the purpose of society is to protect the individual.

Why man is called as a social animal:

"Aristotle, the Greek philosopher writes 'Man is a social animal. He who lives without society is either a beast or God.' Thus, man is by nature a social animal. He is born in society lives in society and dies in society. Society is indispensable for man. Man cannot live as man, without society. Isolation from society is regarded as a punishment. Solitary life is unbearable for him. Social life is necessary for man. The instinct for some form of social life is innate in human being. Professor Park says, 'Man is not born human but to be made human.' Man can be called social animal for the following reasons…"

http://www.preservearticles.com/201104306137/why-man-is-called-as-a-social-animal.html

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 16:03 | 5315735 DFCtomm
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Did you even read the artricle? What do you think a Mad Max event is about? It's about the end of Western civilization,  thus it's rules would no longer be in effect. However, I agree that our natural state is small family groups. You're tribe. That however, doesn't negate the rules of nature. You have what your tribe can take and hold, and is willing to allow you to have based on your position. You may not like it but neither nature nor I care.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:01 | 5315081 dark_matter
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Two words: Bernie Madoff. The people he scammed thought the same thing. Our government is worse at managing money than Bernie. Silly you.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 16:34 | 5315228 Jack Burton
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Madoff preyed on Jews and their large social network. Those Jews he took on early bragged to others about their returns with Madoff, and laughed at those fellow Jews who Madoff would not accept in his fund. People fought to get in to his funds! Never has one clever Jew made such use of the tribal connections and isolation to steal from his people. After the arrest, many New Yorkers were heard to say his crimes were worse because he stole from his own people. That begs the obvious, those same people would have thought Madoffs crimes LESS if he had stolen from the Non Jews. I call that an evil and racist mentality and one that causes people to distrust Jews in general. Crimes against the outside are not so bad, just never steal from a fellow Jew. Madoff case exposed this tribal mentality better than any ZH Jew hater.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:49 | 5315026 DFCtomm
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Unless Asia really starts to develop a lot faster then the West might actually fall in a vacuum, and by that I mean there is no new young civilization in the wings ready to step in and take over. The West would fall and there would be absolutely nothing to replace it until it sprang up organically out of the chaos. It could actually be a Mad Max event.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:52 | 5315038 VWAndy
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What happens every time there is a disaster. People band together and get by.

 Mad Max? Really, it was just fiction.

 The idea that society stem from government structure is BS its the other way. Government comes from society. Roaving bands of bad guys on motorcycles? Stacked up like firewood is the much more likely ending for them. With simple hand tools one could make a air powered gatiling gun and nail every biker and take his shit.

It all comes from the people that can and do work together to honestly do good things.

 I suggest ol marty get a real job.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:55 | 5315046 Dublinmick
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That sawed off shotgun Max has is illegal, Feinstein and the ATF would be all over him.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:05 | 5315111 The Count
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There will be no more ATF when this stuff happens!

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 13:58 | 5315069 Lin S
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Armstrong is mentally retarded.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:00 | 5315074 Jack Burton
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" authoritarian " I feel certain that the west is headed towards a severe Authoritarian future. Look at the events of the last 20 years in the USA! We have created a legal structure to vaildates total authoritarian government and a police state society. This comes about from the very top elites and their bought and paid for politicians, also the military worship the USA is now practicing is another sign of the future.

We will see a financial crisis again, it will be much worse than 2008, because we used up monetary fixes at that time and have few left, unless you worship at the alter of the IMF Special Drawing Rights god. I know some do, they say that IF it all goes to hell that the IMF SPR's can step in and recapitalize banks, markets and governments. No, not the people, but government and the 1% will be recapitalized by the SDP liquidity. Trouble is, that social decay will be so strong that the fat and happy Bankers and 1% will be faced with social termoil, that is where the Authoritarian government, and the already in place and legal police state steps in to smash heads, fill jails and basically beat the populace into submission.

As for revolt in the USA? Have you been to a party, a convention, a family function, a educational class, a family christmas? Have you seen the education level of colleg grads? Do you ever watch media? Nope, In my social dealings I test the waters so to speak, try and find a sore point with people about the system. Waste of bloody time! That parrot FOX or CNN and move on, it is all about more power to the 1% and everybody else is a leech and a bum. Labor is considered one step above criminal and everyone thinks they deserve what they earn and all else are overpaid. It just fakes you fucking sick! And they lap up propaganda like sponges! Putin shot down Malaysian Plane with his personal on call missile. America fights terror the world over. Nobody knows the ISIS is the same people we funded, armed and trained for 3 years in Turkey and Jordan and set like a wild dog onto the Syrian people. Nobody knows that! Not one person will admit that Kiev is now a nest of crased West Ukrainian NAZIs, even though they go right in front of the RADA in Kiev and on camera and call for nuclear war and for genocide and cleansing of Orthodox Christian and Ethinc Russias from the land they have lived on for centuries and centuries. Many other nations have been crushed by the freedom loving west. Too many to name.

Revolution, here? By the best estimate I can come up with I give it a 2% chance, leaving 98% chance for police state authoritarian hell hole.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 15:04 | 5315363 centerline
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I tend to agree.  It adds up better than any other potential outcome.

3rd world countries with little in terms of resources are the ones that will go Mad Max.

Most of Western Civ. is going Orwell.  The framework is already being put into place at an amazing pace.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 22:04 | 5317204 himaroid
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All true, all good. I am just going to say a little prayer for a fighting chance. 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:02 | 5315078 Lin S
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Rage-induced dupe...

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:01 | 5315086 Lin S
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How do I make these infernal singles ads GO THE F AWAY!?

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:07 | 5315116 Super Hans
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Who is Martin Armstrong?  Why should I care what he thinks?

I'm preparing to take over my sub division ASA the world goes to shit!

I'll be "El Mero Mero" 

Bitch asses! 

Peace out Homies!

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:06 | 5315118 Dublinmick
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The Kurds have taken the northern Iraqi oil fields, Max would be proud of them. They are driving better vehicles than Max.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:06 | 5315121 ZeroPoint
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"If it's awll the same to you -- I'll drive that taynka..."

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:17 | 5315173 fightapathy
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Papagallo: "Good idea. YOU can be the one to get pokered with arrows from a bunch of feathered fags."

Of course, he's the one with a Humungus spear sticking in his back...

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:10 | 5315146 Cabecada
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Dammit, now I cannot avoid imagining a Thunder Dome with Ms Yellen dressed as Tina Turner...

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:12 | 5315148 NewAmericaNow
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I have been saying this for years. Prepare http://newamerica-now.blogspot.com/2014/02/beyond-collapse.html

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:13 | 5315155 fightapathy
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I don't know about you, but I'm looking forward to it:

AP Reporter: "PRESIDENT HUMUNGUS, what will be your first act in office?"

President Humungus: "To find a rig big enough, to haul that fat tank of FRACKED GAS!"

Spokesman Wez: "Enough Talk!!" Fires arrow into AP Reporter's neck. "Kill! Kill! Kill! Kill! Kill! Kill!"

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:28 | 5315210 TheEndTimes
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Lmao you people are literally hilarious with these articles

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:36 | 5315244 cornflakesdisease
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Martin Armstrong is a NWO shill.  According to him precious metals, commodities, and the stock market are not manipulated.  I trust him about as much as Jeffrey Christian.  He is a hack.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:39 | 5315254 pupdog1
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We all need to get a really scrungy dog like Max had.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:48 | 5315282 Wahooo
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That's the only useful takeaway from this article.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:47 | 5315256 Griffin
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The pension people live on in old age is paid by the same people earlier in life. All those unemployment benefits and other expenses are also paid by the people who receive them in most cases at some point in their lives.

We create wealth, the government is simply a bunch of civil servants who are supposed to disperse that wealth where needed to keep things running smoothly.

The government does not create wealth, quite the contrary actually.

As for the difference between capitalism and socialism, i would say that they are 2 sides of the same coin.

Capitalism creates misery for everybody but select few and Socialism hands out said misery to everybody but select few.

Democracy is the only sensible system, but it is terribly flawed due to corruption, and idiocy of many sorts. The smart thing to do would be to find a way to recreate democracy and restore it to what it is supposed to be.

 

 

 

 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 15:21 | 5315468 p00k1e
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Good thing pensions are in a lock-box with dutiful stewards. 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 16:08 | 5315812 FrankDrakman
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Geez, where did you learn arithmetic? The MAXIMUM contribution you make to Canada Pension is less than $2,500. If I worked and paid the max from age 20 to 70, I'd contribute $125k plus of course any accrued earnings. Excel tells me that totals $523k at 5% (and where do you find guaranteed 5% these days?!). That's if I paid the max, of course. If you make less than $40k, you pay less than $2,000, and there were plenty of years I did that.

So if you had half a million today, and were aged 70, think you could retire and live off the income? I rather doubt it. The idea that people paid an amount into their government pension plan that will match what they take out is ludicrous, especially with extended post-retirement lives.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 18:13 | 5316406 Peak Finance
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Frank the maths are even worse than you say, remember the retired people NOW getting money, paid into the system in 1970's, 1980's  and 1990's dollars, and are getting back far less valuable 2014 dollars. 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:45 | 5315274 no more banksters
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"In such an environment everyone will be left alone to survive. Human life will totally lose value. This is the return to perfect barbarism. Many still believe in the myth of the free market. They have an ideal situation in mind where everyone will be free from the state suppression and the free market will drive societies and individuals to balance and prosperity. It's just an illusion because in reality the game is more rigged than ever. We are not talking about capitalism, not even neoliberalism. We are talking about the new global, brutal feudalism!"

http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/08/the-dominant-elite-ready-to-b...

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 14:45 | 5315275 Fuku Ben
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"Marriages were ARRANGED!"

Correction: Marriages ARE ARRANGED* (In certain circles)

Just ask Ivanka Trump and Kelsey Clinton

I'm sure it was love at first sight with their Chosen Goldman Sachs bridegrooms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuHjjvET7P8

Start arranging your marriages accordingly sheeple. In a few millennia you too may be lucky enough to become ultra wealthy, philanthropic, socialites generously helping the great unwashed masses stay employed and entertained.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 15:07 | 5315388 viator
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In other news another AAA soverign rating bites the dust.

S&P downgrades Finland to AA+ from AAA

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102070639

 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 15:37 | 5315562 fightapathy
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STILL too high for those plumpy backstabbing Finns!

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 15:08 | 5315397 Bemused Observer
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Black welfare mothers were never paid not to be married. They were penalized for having an involved man in their lives.

A slight, but crucial difference.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 15:24 | 5315485 p00k1e
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When it collapses, you get the black welfare mothers.

I’m getting light-skinned X-ians for believing in black gods.   

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 15:56 | 5315703 FrankDrakman
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The relevant law forbids welfare payments to women of any colour who live with a man to whom they are not married. Subsequently, laws let children of 18 have a child and move out, and pays for them to live, again so long as they have no man living with them. Net result: an increase in unmarried women raising children with no stable male presence. The slight semantic difference you note is irrelevant; the effect is the same either way. Statistics show there are more black women in this category than white, but it doesn't matter - it erodes the basic reason for the family unit, and it is not at all uncommon to find women who 3 or 4 or more kids, all with different fathers.

My GF is a family lawyer, and when she gets her lawyer friends over, the stories I hear after they get a few drinks in them will curl your hair. Very few of these welfare mothers -white, black, whatever (most of her clients are Eastern European or South Asian) - have any ability to raise kids, and even fewer resources, but they are a growing segment of the population, as well-to-do white people all over Europe and N. America have stopped having children.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 17:14 | 5316172 Bemused Observer
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Right, and this is exactly what happens when laws are passed that attempt to legislate morality, instead of sticking to their job of ensuring a smoothly-running society.

The lawmakers who passed that law were more concerned with making a statement, and punishing the perceived 'sinner'...a job better left to the churches, not the courts. Apparently they never thought through the results of their action, never considered the effects on children of not being allowed to have their father in the home lest they lose all their aid and go hungry.
And never considered the results of forcing young men to abandon their children in order to feed them.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 20:39 | 5316959 falconflight
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.."smoothly-running society?"  Nah, you can have this "ordered liberty" society.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 15:56 | 5315699 Joe A
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What a bullshit story. People and families were/are institutionalized (pre-school, schools, sports clubs, retirement homes, etc.) because industrialization required skilled workforce, required that both parents work (so children go to kindergardens and grandparents are locked up in old people's homes, etc). You can call that socialism but it really serves capitalism and industrialization. And it ain't all that bad either. Literacy rates increased, life span increased, human health became better, ect. It took some time before that happened because life in 19th century industrialized countries was no picknick. People made huge sacrifices in factories, mines and on battle fields. Big businesses profited the most. We are now in a post industrial society were eventually working people will be replaced by robots. What will that do for human relations (marriage, family, old age, etc.)? Will we all profit from it or only a happy few?

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 16:02 | 5315751 The Duke of New...
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They are already in a Mad Max world in eastern Ukraine, Syria, Iraq, Lybia, and anywhere else the Neo-Cons have been lately.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 16:53 | 5316052 Barnaby
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What they never display in those movies, as much as I love 'em, is the protected outposts run by very handsome, (unlike Mel tall) and capable men such as me. Max failed to plan properly for the Pockyplipse, and although he got a late-game grabby-feelie on the young and supple Savannah Goanna, that can never make up for his arc, which ends up worse than ever.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 17:30 | 5316245 Direct Democracy
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I believe the existing political system (representative democracy) is the root of this problem.  A Direct Democracy gives the decision making power to the people and not to elected dictators.  If you don't know what a direct democracy is, do some research. 

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 20:41 | 5316966 falconflight
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Like Hamas?  I trust denizens no more than the minority (less than 50 percent of the eligible voters) elected representatives.  

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 17:54 | 5316337 loveyajimbo
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Farty Marty must have had his brains buggered out in the Calaboose... he denies that gold is manipulated in any way... ergo... the man is a drooling douchebag.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 20:44 | 5316976 DipshitMiddleCl...
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long ramen noodles bitches!

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 21:59 | 5317193 monad
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Learn to cook man. Stock dried beans. High in protein & carbs, low fat. Keeps forever & you can sprout them to make more.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 20:46 | 5316982 22winmag
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Busy day at the gun range today.

 

Millions of heavily armed and pissed-off Americans know the score and are preparing to settle it.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 21:42 | 5317117 honestann
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Of course the basic theme the author promotes is mostly reasonable, he makes several mistakes that make his article considerably less helpful.

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#1:  authoritarianism or democracy.  Sorry, but democracy is a form of authoritarianism.  Therefore, to claim these are our choices is to claim we have no choice... which is precisely why many authoritarian statist talk warm and fuzzily about democracy.

Any human being thoughtful enough to write articles like this should have long ago realized that being controlled by the vote of your family or neighbors or "other citizens" makes you a slave to your family or neighbors or "other citizens".  To understand this should be obvious, since the conclusion is a direct result of the premise.

The reason the human predators-that-be statists promoted this distinction is to fake enormous numbers of people to pretend "authoritarianism" and "democracy" are direct opposites, when in fact they are both authoritarianism.  This is very similar to the false choice between republicans and democrats, both of whom are statist authoritarians from skin to core.

The only way out of the matrix is to exterminate the matrix, not call the matrix a different name.

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#2:  The author is correct to say "the first step is to understand the problem".  Unfortunately, the article proves he does not understand the problem, only some of the symptoms.

The author proves this in his next sentence where he states that once we understand the problem "we can address the solution with a reasonable game plan".

How is this wrong?  Totally so.  First of all, the first word "we".  Second of all, the phrase "the solution".  Third of all, the phrase "a reasonable game plan".  Recognize the problem?  He claims "we" (meaning everyone) can address "the solution" (meaning one solution for everyone) with "a reasonable game plan" (meaning one game plan).

So, what's the problem with this?  The notion that "we" (everyone) must agree on one solution and one game plan (to be successful).  Perhaps the single most important reason humans cannot find their way out of the morass that is the modern world is because they've been faked into accepting the utterly insane (not to mention massively incorrect) notion that "what is good for one is good for all".

This is utterly preposterous, even at first glance.  Consider the people in your nation, your state, your county, your city, your neighborhood... even your own family.  Can you find ANY one single "solution" or "game plan" that makes ALL of them effective, happy, content?

Of course not!  Even within the tiny collective that is "one family in one home", it is quite rare to find one way of living, or one way of learning, or one kind of environment, or any other aspect of life that pleases or works effectively for everyone in the family.

And so, to even imagine in our wildest dreams that some "one solution" or "one game plan" exists that can possibly work for millions or billions of human beings is... so completely insane that one has to ask whether average human beings today have an IQ below 20.   In short, it is completely preposterous to entertain the notion of "one solution" and "one game plan" for "everyone".

And yet, this is what the predators-that-be have convinced almost everyone to accept as a basic requirement of life going forward.  No wonder so many humans are depressed.  The obvious conclusion that follows from the assumption of "one solution and game plan for everyone" is... they are screwed.  They have no hope of searching for the kind of life that makes them effective, alive, happy, content.

And so, the only way humans can hope to be effective, happy and content is to utterly and firmly reject the notion of "one solution and one game plans for everyone", refuse to accept that notion, and proceed to act as an independent free agent who observes the world first-hand, thinks and feels first-hand, and identifies his own solutions first-hand, and formulates and executes his own game plans.  And I might add, they must always be ready to tweak, modify, optimize (and perhaps even completely replace) their solutions and game plans as they learn more about reality and themselves.  Humans are not born omniscient.

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#3:  The discussion about "family" is completely irrelevant in the sense that every individual must choose for themselves whether to interact with immediate family (parents, brothers, sisters, relatives), whether to have their own family (partner, spouse), whether to have their own children, and what aspects of inter-family relationships are acceptable (which means, "voluntary for all involved").

One might investigate the large scale consequences of various decisions being common and popular, but only as an observational science.  Any tiny hint that humans should be manipulated to adopt any one or more decisions about family is necessarily destructive.

Why?  Because it prevents each individual from making those decisions and plans that lead them to take actions that make their life more effective, happy and content.  The "best society" is the "society" in which each individual recognizes his own nature and quirks, then makes choices accordingly.

Any "society" in which individuals are manipulated into making ANY choices necessarily leads to huge quantities of individuals making decisions that make their life ineffective, unhappy and discontented.

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The discussion about how organic creatures work (in the sense of how positive and negative feedback impacts behavior) is essentially correct.  But the appropriate implication from this is to let each individual make his own decisions, take his own actions, and enjoy/bare/suffer all the consequences of his actions.

This is how organic creatures learn about reality, learn about themselves, and learn to take effective actions that make them happy and content.  This is why "democracy is wrong, ineffective, and cannot work", and why any "one solution or game plan for everyone" is inherently destructive.

The only decision and action everyone needs to take is... make their own decisions, take their own actions, enjoy/bare/suffer all the consequences of their actions, enjoy/bare/suffer none of the consequences of the actions of others, and leave everyone else alone.

For those spin-artists who will immediately jump on the above formulation, "leave everyone else alone" doesn't mean "be a hermit".  It means leave everyone else completely free to make their own decisions, take their own actions, enjoy/bare/suffer the consequences of their own actions (and nobody else's actions)... and leave you alone too.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 22:12 | 5317228 monad
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0 1, left right, binary or reducible to binary does not describe the human cognition state at all. Narrow your rant & I might debate you.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 23:13 | 5317427 monad
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Are you hanoi honest jane or are you going to debate me?

Lets do it. Poser.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 23:40 | 5317506 monad
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I am the best

Sat, 10/11/2014 - 00:34 | 5317608 honestann
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I am the best.

That sounds rather binary to me (best vs not).

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Also, I am a bit amazed you do not recognize that my entire rant was against binary!

How so?  What I advocated was every individual crafting their own way of life.  In other words, my proposal was to have 7-billion separate "ways of living".

I also trashed "authoritarianism vs democracy" because that is not even a binary choice... because "democracy" is a form of "authoritarianism".

You make no sense.

Sat, 10/11/2014 - 00:45 | 5317639 monad
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Try this pig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1acEVmnVhI

Lets go. I am the best.

Come.

Sat, 10/11/2014 - 01:48 | 5317722 Livermore Legend
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"The Wisdom of the 4 Way Crossing":

The Minute the Light Goes Out .......

Control, Not Self Control......

Human Nature = Control is Necessary

 

Sat, 10/11/2014 - 03:55 | 5317802 honestann
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The question is not whether control is necessary, the question is whether someone else should control me... or whether I should control myself.

Since I'm the one stuck with the consequences of what happens to me, I demand that I control myself... and enjoy/bare/suffer the consequences.

I can assure you that I do NOT need others to control me to survive or prosper or enjoy life.  They can go ahead and give advice if they wish, but I refuse to be governed == controlled.  Being consistent, I expect you to put a bullet through my head if I attempt to control you, or even vote for others to control you.  Which is one reason I have never voted, and never will.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 21:43 | 5317157 Rikeska
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I just bought a pallet load of Charmin Mega Rolls.

 

I will be Humongous.  Behold my assless chaps.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 23:13 | 5317418 monad
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Humongous blew it because he didn't listen to his generals. Sounds familiar?

I'm long TP.

Fri, 10/10/2014 - 23:20 | 5317452 spqrusa
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It is all by design bitchez.

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