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Glenn Greenwald: Why Privacy Matters
Glenn Greenwald was one of the first reporters to see — and write about — the Edward Snowden files, with their revelations about the United States' extensive surveillance of private citizens. In this searing talk, Greenwald makes the case for why you need to care about privacy, even if you’re “not doing anything you need to hide."
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our world seems to have taken a turn for the surreal...
may you be born in interesting times...
is that you edward quince? surreal indeed
Privacy matters because... Obama.
Thanks Obama!
Privacy matters when you have an misbalance of power. When the people spying on you have more power than you, they can destroy you for any reason at any time, and when they disagree with you they certainly will, eventually.
So, either you reset the balance of power, or you get privacy. We're reaching structural criticality anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
This whole system is going to come down at the speed of building 7. Just be patient.
You can quote me on that.
Privacy matters because the surveillance state is being built for a reason. Stop it now, or....
Let's do our part to render it ineffective content-wise. See my bio for one solution. If you are tired of being front-run or watched like a slave, then the "ball" is in your (our) "court".
Save the fourth... Peace.
The biggest problem we have is that you don't know who you can trust.
On a good day, you can trust yourself.
Exactly. You bring up a central issue - as in, who is that avatar and why even think to put any trust in the info. The answer is you do not.
An example: do the PGP users know about the ADK?
http://www.rossde.com/PGP/pgp-adk.html
Do users of public key enc realize that guessing primes is what the Masters focus on?
No, you should trust only yourself and force all others to earn it.
But at least investigate when someone shows you how to "zig" when the boundary conditions are only revealing a "zag".
Things are coming to a "For-real" moment.
The time for the plastic empire (i.e. derivatives- credit cards- phony wealth accumilation) is coming to a 'Wiley Coyote' cliff near you...
Watch out this is coming, this fall....
In the words of Marvin Gaye:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/BKPoHgKcqag?autoplay=1
I can sum it up, "Its none of your fucking business and you're nothing but voyeurs and paranoid lunatics that sell to marketers anyways."
it's the paranoid lunatics that ruin it for the rest of us......
Yes.
But its all in how one defines what the rest of us...is ;-)
"Paranoid lunatics that ruin it for the rest of us"
Pol Pot, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Napoleon, Assad, Kim Jun-il, Mao ...
It is clear that these individuals are not one-off anomolies but are in every society during every generation.
People who would control & subjugate their fellow humans if they could accumulate enough power,
They are like weed seeds in soil, always present but only able to take over under the right conditions.
Our founding fathers did their best to try to head off ways the system might be gamed.
Hard to predict that half of Congress would applaud the collapse of the separation of powers and the other half would go on vacation.
for those who have nothing to hide, consider how nsa spying opens wide the ability to blackmail the congress, the president and even the supreme court.
then we wonder why it seems all levels of the govt are in a seeming cahoots against the interest of its people.
You mean that towering Jurist John Roberts was compromised when he legalized Obamacare?
This is true but not the whole story. I once had a conversation with a relative (Google lawyer). One minute talking about their hard day filing a nondisclosure agreement and the next defending Eric Schmidt's statement, blind to the hypocrisy of the postion. Did Apple use .GOV information to gain inside knowledge that let them drive GTAT into bancruptcy? Who knows. I'd be even more suspicious if Google was the counterparty but WHY SHOULD I EVEN HAVE TO WONDER??? I don't recognize this country anymore.
"Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage’s whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men."
-Ayn Rand
Rand does know about tribalism. "“The first intended victim of the new isolationism will probably be Israel—if the ‘antiwar’ efforts of the new isolationists succeed. (Israel and Taiwan are the two countries that need and deserve U.S. help—not in the name of international altruism, but by reason of actual U.S. national interests in the Mediterranean and the Pacific.)'” - Ayn Rand
Rand was rational - about everything but her Judeocentrism and hating the native people of Palestine. But you give her "philosophy" far too much credit [I suspect you know academic philosophers don't take her seriously - and that she is worshipped by econ majors who never read anything else...] by naming yourself against her.
I'm a libertarian. I don't like Ayn Rand.
But I also tend not to like many of the people who falsely distill libertarian thought to Randian Objectivism.
You're giving her too much credit by saying she was mostly rational ;-) Objectivism fails the is-ought test. Irrationality was her very foundation!
The structure that was completed after WWII is crumbling. Everyone knows it. Hell even Burzinski said as much publicly. The central planners, and centralized systems will fail, one by one.
We will win. We have, in fact, already won. It's just a matter of time.
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win." - Sun Tzu
The government doesn't think privacy is important? Fine.
Every government issued vehicle should have a GPS device in it so that every US citizen can see who it is assigned to and where it is at any time. That information will be on a public website
Every government issued cell phone and computer will log every conversation, text message, email or internet search. That information will also be placed on the internet so that any US citizen can see it any time.
At anytime we should be able to access the microphone and camera of any device and at any time.
There are absolutely NO RESTRICTIONS. This includes from the President down.
As US tax payers those device and vehicles were purchased by us and we own them and because privacy doesn't matter we deserve that infomation.
Let's get a movement behind this started.
logged on to give +1
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/
Just for shits and giggles.
"Every government issued vehicle should have a GPS device in it so that every US citizen can see who it is assigned to and where it is at any time. That information will be on a public website."
Federal, state and local.
OMG! Panic in the Statist Market! ;-)
The intelligence community is a big social club. There's panic in the air since the Russians dumped a lot of files in retaliation over sanctions and 'other things'. Plus, there's at least two more insiders leaking info right now. Stay tuned - the smelliest turds haven't hit the ground yet.
Nice zeitgeist work there with the shit reference when the smell of Ebola permeates the air. +1 brother.
National Security issues should not matter. In fact if there is information the government has regarding National Security the nation should know about it.
NSA: "You'll get nothing and like it."
If I can get fries with that (supersized if it's not too much trouble) I'm okay with that. -John Q. Public-
lol +1
FWIW. Newman(nmewn) is "good shit" .
Noted.
Well I appreciate that, "I think"...lol.
I took it in the spirit intended, I think...
The biggest problem with the USA governments(Federal, State and Local) and governments everywhere is they forgot who their bosses are and who pays them. They think they are islands unto themselves, that will change with time. Unfortunately those egocentric politicians and .gov beauracrats would rather die than give in or lose their precious positions to the people.
They know exactly who their bosses are. Unfortunately, the public at large doesn't. The public generally believes this is still Mayberry.
Sadder still is that the majority will continue to believe that right up to the point they drop down on their knees to take a bullet. We raise mice now, no longer men.
I thought we already had that in this "most transparent administration ever"......
It always amazes me that so many complain but so few do anything about it in America
Why are you guys afraid?
YT should be overflowing with guys and women like this but maybe I've run across 25 or so
Watch as obese public servants lie, cheat and steal your rights out from under you. And those that swore an oath to protect it threaten the wrong person. WTF?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSNU1HttjDM
Now this one is a bit more like it. Watch the smirks decrease and then disappear. This is 1 guy standing up for what's legal and right. Imagine if you have 100,000 or a million in that area like this guy. These f8ckers would be begging to lick your taint to keep their job
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPtudZ3R6U4
The 2nd video is just BRILLIANT dude ! FANTASTIC really !
Thanks 4 that !
The creation of such a website would bankrupt the nation. oh wait...
Here we go. White House petition. Let's get some signatures.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-information-tax-payer-pur...
Been saying the same for a long time.
Sunlight - the great disinfectant!
The government doesn't think privacy is important? Fine.
Nonsense. This line of thinking is obscenely dangerous. It's also used very often in the gun debate. "If the government is going to confiscate our guns, fine, but none of the local police will get to have any either." I would presume that the folly in concession is obvious, but this still needs to be said...
You cannot agree to cede any rights as they will never come back. Further, your rights are not relative to what your master has, rather your rights are inherent and absolute, by and through your very birth.
Hypocrites must ALWAYS get called out, or Evil wins.
I love the idea. It sounds like a political philosophy based on transparency!
when humanity as a whole intellectually evolves enough, it will demand such systems. lesser ones will be recognized as outright fraud.
the ones who recognize this now must share the information and encourage others to come to this level of understanding. though painful and slow, it is probably the only realistic path forward unless we are content with further entombing the next generation in this subtly fascist nightmare.
Most ignorant americans use the argument they arent doing anything wrong so they dont care. But when you let .gov decide whats wrong you have already lost. Fuck you very much nsa
I can't wait until these NSA goons get laid off and are looking for a real job. Nobody will hire a war criminal or a traitor. I'll laugh in their faces. Let them eat shit.
If Glenn and his Bilderberger buddy Pierre Omidyar actually gave a fuck about privacy, they'd get off their asses and release the massive cache of supposed "Snowden" documents they have been concealing from the public... but I've been waiting with bated breath on that one since this whole fiasco started and don't suppose I'll be exhaling any time soon.
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/12/13/greenwald-omidyar-joint-ventu...
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2014/03/01/pando-expose-glenn-greenwalds...
Sibel Edmonds is a cool lady. Though I'm not sure I agree with her on the Intercept project. They're certainly slowing things down by taking a non-wikileaks approach, but the end-state will be the same. They (TPTB) have already lost.
I hope you are right bro. Greenwald and Omidar are not people who can be trusted.
Omyidar is a strategically expedient, morally relativist, elite.
Greenwald took the red pill but is still afraid to go all the way down the rabbit hole, else he would be connecting the dots a little better. He got close when he pinned down Israel as the receipient of the unredacted Five-Eyes raw intelligence feeds, but maybe like Icarus, he got a little too close and his wings melted.
He is certainly being influenced or unconsciously/subconsciously led by omyidar. He may also be being overtly manipulated. It's hard to tell these days. Usually, you just get offered money until you get back in line, and more money still to keep you occupied that way.
If he never releases the cache, it's a fucking humanitarian tragedy in my eyes.
Yeah, they were supposedly on the verge of releasing the list of all on the gubmint watchlist. But they never did.
I saw on the news yesterday that there are supposedly 1.8MM Americans on The List...
The List..
Including almost everybody on ZH minus the disinfo agents.
precisely. it's more or less inevitable. it's a strategic certainty to any sufficiently prudent strategic planner.
it's insane how dangerous sound mathmatics and the realized existence of scarcity is to TPTB.
This comment section is starting to look like a proper REPUBLIC!
I see some great ideas, and a few
{ball sacs} are starting to grow.
it's a beautiful sight indeed :)
Y'all heard of PGP?
Who hasn't? There's a good extension for Thunderbird on all platforms that makes it easier for non-IT types.
https://www.enigmail.net/home/index.php
The greater the effort you put into hiding anything, the more effort they will put into seeing what it is you hiding. Hide in plain site.
It won't matter if you encrypt it when they're monitoring it while you're typing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T17XQI_AYNo
They can look at your waiting to be sent on your computer, that's how the NSA took out Petraeus.
Greenwald = Chump. He already cut a deal. He has not released one single "Top Secret" document from NSA. Everything he released so far was readily available for those who looked for the information. Most of what he released (NSA capabilities) could be sourced from two books sold on Amazion.
Controlled opposition.
Wait until the real shit is released soon. Heads will roll. Count on it.
Jrev: If Glenn and his Bilderberger buddy Pierre Omidyar actually gave a fuck about privacy, they'd get off their asses and release the massive cache of supposed "Snowden" documents they have been concealing from the public... but I've been waiting with bated breath on that one since this whole fiasco started and don't suppose I'll be exhaling any time soon.
....dribs and drabs being released as a slow third degree burn on Veterans Today in the last 4 months. Absolutely NO ONE in MSM will pick up on it.
Search YouTube for 'veterans today radio'. It deliberately sounds like a high school AV club with feedback and dropped microphones. It's actively jammed by you-know-who to the point you can't hear anybody.
And you better believe that if all the raw NSA intel were being forwarded to ANY other country in the world other than Israel it would be headline news and the leading headline of every MSM outlet.
A fool trusts their governors. Fools on juries trust that what the government agents/police report was said or done is true. Fools believe they will never ever articulate a forbidden thought. Fools believe if they obey their governors will be satisfied. Fools believe that being in chains or cages make them safe. Fools believe they'd never be falsely accused or abused. Fools trust government in anything.
Trust is the opiate of the sheeple. Privacy rejects any reports by government agents, true, false or manufactured.
zerohedge
can
break
the
chains
thanks tyler d
Only you can, the Tylers are only the hammer, you supply the anvil the force is applied against to break the chain.
No sickles please ;-)
info is a better metaphoric anvil i would think.
action is the hammer striking, purifying and refining that caught between it's savage blows!
much respect to you still, sir.
;)
Huh. All that without a teleprompter.......
I think Snowden is a real hero. I can no longer stand Greenwald. And it sullies this site to post this article.
Other than contacting your elected representatives, and hope that one of them is anti-NSA, the only thing you can do is minimize your exposure to electronic social media, electronic communication, and electronic money.
When both my senators were Je.....er, Zionists I didn't bother to write much. Now only one is. It matters.
I have my privacy tranparency campaign going, working on it for 3 years to get a law passed to require licensing all data sellers. It's my campaign page so if you like you can kick in, don't have to but use the links and watch the videos for your edification on what the hells going on out there.
Could you image a world where stock brokers were not licensed...me neither and I have to get a license to catch a fish and then sometimes tell someone how much I caught. Case in point here is that we don't know who they are and when your data gets flawed, you'll pay like hell to get it fixed and it might not even work as you get repackaged over and over again now.
http://www.gofundme.com/auyxd
The updated video goes back to January to a Congressional testimony on how bad it is by the World Privacy Forum.
I posted Glen's video as well on my blog, good stuff.
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Some have said that Glenn is gay. It don't matter, does it? The man who speaks truth, is OK by me.
Thanks, Tylers! That was worthwhile!
If you want to know who really runs things just look at who you are not allowed to criticize.
Voltaire, you're not. He had a certain cadence in his verse. You missed it, entirely, but I applaud the effort!
It's pretty insane how hardly any comments draw the connection between the Rothschild led Zionists, back to the Bank of England, to the City of London, to the Federal Reserve, and their other related associations, after all, who else was addressed by the Balfour Declaration?
Since I am on this topic (and I usually stay pretty quiet about this topic), Duffy, to be frank, it worries me about you how much you talk about "jews" rather than "zionists". If I replace most instances of "jews" in your arguments with "zionists", they make much more sense and make you sound much less racist/religiously intolerant. I hope you can remedy that because you do make some very important points. Pushing the jews = zionists canard is very poor logical form though- there are many groups of jews that reject zionism outright, and thus they cannot be reasonably equated.
So, I'm sittin' here thinkin' that nobody knows what's actually goin' on, and here comes r0mulus. The "Jews' ain't my problem, it's them who claim to be jews but are not.
Sumthin tells me me we're not gonna have a problem.
Am I right?
But Duffy, at least they promised not to read or use anything in everything NSA gets on our politicians. Its expressly stated in the document that authorizes NSA to forward everything to Israel.
Duffy, i appreciate your links, but you gotta know a few things.
I don't run this site, but if you post too many links, yer gonna get banned.
That said, I dunno why Bruce Wilds is still able to post as Advancing Time, there must be something in the algo that I don't understand.
Hell, Duffy- If I don't see ya' on the next post, maybe I'll see ya' on the last one, huh!
The NSA surveillance state is a Psy-op to modify mass behavior and make it conformist. It is an overt act of war by our civil servants against us.
That's gotta' be the best "TED Talk" out there.
Privacy matters 'cause it's the fucking LAW!
The fact they were hiding it, and they lied about it under oath, is evidence of guilt by these lawless scumbags.
NO! They didn't lie under oath, or misspeak under oath, they commited Perjury. For them there's no charges, buy you just try it and see what happens. Different rules for different people.
I like how he calls out the CEO’s and kingpins of social media like Eric Schmidt and Mark Zuckerberg. These hypocrites are the subtle social tyrants of our new normal. Ironically, they won’t tolerate for themselves or their companies any of the surveillance, scrutiny, and mind-fucking inventions they experiment with and foist on us from behind the curtain. Their business methods and personal lives are mostly conducted under the utmost privacy and secrecy, except for the occasional embarrassing discovery by an investigative reporter which is quickly squelched by their PR damage control.
Good one, Glenn! Watched you for years as you came up through Democracy Now and cheer you onward in your endeavors to continue to expose the filthy lies of TPTB.
Snowden alleges that 9/11 was done by bin Laden and a cabal of eeeeevil, bearded Muslims.
That's his primary job. To get the public to believe him as a whistleblower but also prop up the 9/11 mythos.
Tarpley, an ignorant, duped moron in many ways, is right on this one.
Is that you Alex Jones?
Glenn Greenwald's message gets muddled because he's a horrible presenter. He talks like he's writing a legal brief.
Get this man some speechwriters, powerpoint slides, and an acting coach. Then then his message might have a chance to become just important enough to get him assassinated. If he's really lucky he'll get his own day just like Martin Luther King.
Nothing else besides violent rebellion will change this, and the masters will only buckle if they realize that the entire workforce is willing to suicide itself.
"powerpoint slides" ?!?
Yeah, those always make for a riveting and persuasive presentation. Do you work for Microsoft or something?
Powerpoint, prezi, I doesn't matter which. Most people aren't capable of truly parsing his language and he's not the most engaging speaker. In fact it seems like he's tense and nervous, unconfident if you will, and that's the only visual impression.
When watching a presentation, for most people, 90% of communication is non-verbal. Learned that from Jordan Belfort, one of the most gifted manipulators and influencers on the planet, and he sold shit sandwiches to repeat customers.
Facts are facts. People will receive the message better if he's got a visual slide up reinforcing the verbal message and if he gets some delivery coaching.
I support Greenwald's message, moreso Snowden's. But in order to connect with the masses he needs to deliver it in a more engaging way.
The rights of the uncommon man can only be protected by privacy. Human nature includes harpies that consume any souls in open sight.
While the electronic gestapo (N$@) have average citizens under an electronic microscope, WA Post 10/11/14 has this:
"Amer. suicide bomber's travels in US, ME, WENT UNMONITORED." WTF is wrong with this picture?
So do away with shame and you do away with the panopticon?
There is no right or wrong; there only is.