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CDC Explains Why 3-Out-Of-4 US Nurses Feel Unprepared For Ebola - Live Feed
With three out of four nurses say their hospital hasn't provided sufficient education for them on Ebola, according to a survey by the largest professional association of registered nurses in the United States, it seems the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has decided its time to tamp down some more public fears over the contagiousness of this deadly disease... The CDC will provide an update on the response to the second U.S. Ebola diagnosis - the Dallas nurse who was infected while caring for a Liberian national in her hospital (supposedly due to her 'protocol breach')...
CDC Press Conference is due to start at 1200ET...
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You just couldn't make it up! #38:
Suspected Ebola carrier wrapped in plastic after Czech police seal off rail station
Czech police and hazmat suit-wearing doctors have seized a traveler from Ghana at Prague’s main railway station. The man, suspected of suffering from the Ebola virus, was wrapped in black plastic by the authorities and taken away.
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/ebolie.html
discraceful...blaming your subordinates, for your failings...
if you were a leader in the army, i would may it my mission in life to ruin you...or at least make you turn your bars...
Just your everyday pandemic. No reason to be on time.
just your everyday failure of leadership..
Doctors and Nurses at those hospitals need to quit coming to work.
All theater.
2008 crash= first black president.
2016 ebola pandemic= first jewish president.
simple.
there have been several Jewish presidents already. of course, no one informed the sheeple of that fact. but if you do your homework, it is quite obvious. LBJ is one example, but there are others.
as far as Ebola goes, its fake... tptb need more fear, and need it now. While the sheeple are fixated on this hoax, WWIII i going hot in Syria. The U.S. will invade northern Syria soon, disguised as FSA... it is on.
Listen Liang.
You have to agree. I would fuck this guy up if he were here in India spouting this Filth, Lies! and "SPIN".
FUCK YOU from India!
India is shit hole, in the iron bars of the caste system. Indians are too stupid to break through. the English were able to rule over you with a few thousand men, pitting one against another. you're still living in shit. go look at your brown face in mirror first before spouting off your mouth at your superior.
Listen.
Douchbagsays"WHAT"?
OH! From India.
Come'on Bitchez, let's get it on!
LISTEN!
you need a different opener...
like 'HI, how are you"
or 'STFU'
mix it up a bit...
you should study a master troll, like..
MillionDollarBonus...
i dont like the idea of you being a wanna-be troll..
you can do it...
be the best troll you can be..
you need to work on it...
Listen Capt.
In USSA shithole, don't they have medication for old crusty "FARTS" like you?
Lithium, maybe? Stop fixating, ok capt? Stop.
im i getting to you??
im sorry!
just go back under the bridge..
and say HI to your SNAGGLE TOOTHED "POKE SALAD ANNIE" looking sister for me...
you may not recognize her though, I SHAVED HER BACK....
(now thats trolling) you can write that into little troll notebook...)
have a nice day
:)
Freeden's Hubris may wind up killing thousands of innocent Merikans, esp thos eon the 'front lines' where morale is already very thin due to gubmint interference from what doctors tell me.
Remember: We live in an age where repeal of the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948 allows for outright propaganda of the American people by the American Government because of repeal by the NDAA 2013.
Why no pictures of bleeding ebola patients ANYWHERE? This is a horrible disease which late in stages causes bloody vomit, diarrhea and profuse bleeding from the eyes and ears. But not a single pic of it anywhere? Especially on the "news" channels showing "late stage" patients walking around appearing quite healthy. Not even sweating? We have no problem showing kids getting their head blown off in Gaza, but Ebola, ISIL beheadings and Sandy Hook 911 calls are too gruesome. Think about that for a moment.
This is the greatest Psy-Op in history.
For a more in depth look at how the repeal of Smith-Mundt actually works in targeting the American population with USGOV propaganda go to the 59 minute mark of this podcast
No problem...
Require all nurses to login to Obamacare website,
and receive ebola education online.
"It's the right thing to do!"
/sarc
Comment from someone who is on the front lines:
"I was looking at what my hospital posted yesterday about how to protect ourselves if we had an Ebola patient. Mind you, I'm also at a level one trauma ICU, and am used to different types of isolation. I was getting over whelmed by the if this then's, and at a minimum but not more than this. If I were the nurse, I would expect someone to stand there and watch me, because I am terrified that I would screw it up! We don't get training, we get memo's! They need to go to the few hospitals around the country who have actual training in this.
I don't know what happened, but IF I had to speculate, this man needed CPR a few times before they called him dead. Those are the times, when fluids fly everywhere! Ribs get cracked, we get blood on us spewing out from the mouth, stool poring out. And I'm not even talking about a patient with a hemorrhagic virus. Trauma patients tend to bleed more than they should too. Its a mess! AND he was on CRRT! (continuous dialysis) talk about blood bath! everyone gets sprayed when a patient codes and you need to emergently unhook that thing."
We don't get training, we get memo's!
If they were stupid enough to code him, they shouldn't complain about catching it. Actions have consequences. In this case, those consequences can be very, very real.
Same would apply to CRRT.
If you blindly follow protocols, on the front line, this thing will get you. The malcontents who say "fuck you" to procedure stand the best chance of staying disease-free. Reminds me of "over the top" on the Western Front in WWI. Thousands of men walking blindly into heavy machine gun fire, because they got told to.
Next time it comes up, ask yourself a simple question: "would the PPE I am supplied be considered sufficient if this was in a Level IV biocontainment lab, rather than a hospital". If the answer is no (Hint: it will be ) then don't go anywhere near the poor bastard.
"im i getting to you??"
The little indian boy is kinda sensitive, ain't he?
Here Mowgli. Go cool off in the Ganges.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YlJ0HH6Y8E
where'd he go...
i was going to give him more 'training'
probably had to go chase a cobra or something...
you know, HIS DAY JOB!
Listen bang-a-whore:
Go take a bath in that pure clean Ganges or maybe get a drink from it
For every body else I recomend take a dip in 70-30 Isopropanol before taking off hazmat suit.
perhaps crypto jews, hiding and scheming behind gentile surnames.
what comes in 2016 is a raging jew in every sense, more like liberman, bernie sanders, bloomberg, etc. that's when the clothe of invisibility comes off. got it.
Correct. But Ike's father was Jewish.......which could explain why he left nearly a million German POWs starve to death in 1945.
Why is it that suddenly the meme is this "Ebola is fake?"
If you are going to use that term, please elaborate. Fake virus? Fake outbreak?
pods
whether it was originally designed to spread like the mythical 'captain trips', I can't say. All i can say is that ebola, if it is real at all, is not nearly as virulent as the mass media is leading people to believe. nor is it as infectious. someone is going through great lengths to create the appearance that the world is on the verge of a massive ebola outbreak, but careful scrutiny reveals that this is largely hype, no substance. a few cases faked in the west is more than enough to spread massive fear and panic... meanwhile, in africa, the disease is not widespread. a few hoax stories released to fan the flames, but no real substance. if the disease was nearly as deadly or infectious as they would like you to believe, africa would have hundreds of thousdands dead and dying right now. but it is not happening. isolated incidents that would be easy to fake, or simulate, with agents such as formaldehyde spiked in water supplies.
massive mind control at work imho. but time will tell. if Africa is not ravaged by hundreds of thousands of people dead and dying in the near future, you know this is a fake outbreak. all we need is charles jaco in front of the green sceen to round out this bullshit... the real question is, if ebola is the fear based distraction, what are tptb trying to hide....
I appreciate the explanation. I happen to agree that the threat of this is overblown and the lethality has not been demonstrated to hold up in a first world environment.
I think that if it was as easy to spread as they want us to believe, most of Liberia would be dead, certainly West Point would be a rotting open air cemetary. From the videos I have seen, the only protocols are to spray down stuff with bleach (which is effective) but there are no other controls going on, at least none that would prevent contamination.
pods
perhaps it is simply the contrarian in me. I see that tptb want the sheeple terrified, and thus are flooding the media with all manner of propaganda, including stories to highlight the ineptitude of government... because i see the agenda, i refuse to participate. the are far worse things afoot today than ebola...
In time your perspective will change.
Sun Tzu would come up with something like this. Maybe?
If they need fear then a real ebola would do it.
I'll be generous.
Most hospitals only have equipment/protocols to handle BSL2 pathogens (maybe, just maybe BSL3).
A BSL4 pathogen in a BSL2 environment is a woefully inadequate protocol for the world of fucking hurt coming your way.
This is truly Bizzaro World.
"All theater.
2008 crash= first black president.
2016 ebola pandemic= first jewish president.
simple."
Sure.....why not? I'm mean, Hillary is already a Chicago Cubs fan AND a New York Mets fan AND a New York Yankees fan.
So why not a W.A.S.P. and a Jew?
You are doing a heck of a job Friedy.
"Care for the diagnosed patients is complex" Aspirin and Gatorade is complex? That's pretty much the treatment regimen. Add a few prayers to improve results if you are inclined.
what is the real protocol their has to be more to it.
It's treating septic shock. Which can be as simple or as complex as you and your resources desire.
Surprise, in the USSA it's complex. Because health insurance rewards complex interventions. When the pt is obviously pretty well beyond help, that's when we like to get really complex. Things like the above-mentioned continuous hemodialysis.
That will change, once sufficient healthcare workers catch it and die, which is inevitable using that approach. Then it'll go back to gatorade and asprin. Maybe a little incense. The trick for providers will be to survive the intitial nonsense.
Must say, as a front-line provider the ZH forums are really helping me figure out how I should handle this personally. Talking to professional colleagues, not so much. There's a message in that somewhere.
Edit: thanks to all contributing knowledge and plain old common sense here.
X.infantry.capt:
That is the whole matter of it, they are managers (damn piss poor ones at hat) and not leaders. They are blinded by their vision for the world and their rigid ideology.
In Texas, 3/4 of the nursess are too fat to fit into a hazmat suit.
LAKE is coming out with some special cankle-flair ones soon. Saw it in a news release.
pods
Gunt? I thought it was a FUPA...
You say toe-may-toe, I say ta-mah-toe.
Fat chicks need love too ya know... ;)
"Fat chicks need love too ya know... ;)"
I hear they make the "rockin' world go 'round".....but that came from a gay guy who died from AIDS. So what do I know?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMnjF1O4eH0
You should try the buffalo butts around Chicago sometime.
I hope they punched some breathing holes for him!!
I think this goes without saying..... just saying......
The first day a hospital has a confirmed case 80% dont come to work the next day.
So who cares if they are prepared or not, they wont be there.
How many nurses and doctors will give their lives to strangers...?
Prepare accordingly.
RIPS
80%! You are being generous. If it hits your city you can count on call ins galore and no agency to back fill. Our protocols at this point are a joke, I gown up as much for a stinky wino with a cough.
Monday morning call to the office,"I'm vomiting and going in to self-quarantine for the next 21 days".
All for a fucking cough, from someone who resides in a country that hasn't even recorded any ebola infections (unlike the US).
On the subject of the Incompetent Empire... here's a picture of the screening procedures and equipment passengers are subjected to in order to board a plane in Accra, Ghana - does TSA with its access to the unlimited credit on the Yellen green card for shopping at Chertoff's Placebo Protection Devices have anything like this actually in place right now for people boarding planes at American airports?
Jesus, that picture's unbelievable.
Let's hope Bill Gates is watching and can throw another $50m at buying that tech for US airports.
Isn't there a drinking game that accompanies these press conferences?
Just don't puke.
It's a bit early for me on left coast time but we can come up with the buzz words. High confidence and contained should get lots of play
Listen.
Drinking is for "FOOLS"! Don't do it!
When things get serious with Ebola you have to
(a) lie
(b) pray, run, hide, etc
ebola is the lie.
Again, what exactly is a lie? The virus? Panic?
Maybe you should have been made to wait longer on the porch.
<sigh>
pods
(edit: see my response above)
I fail to understand why we and anyone that can help at this point would not be putting every resource into getting this virus stamped out at this point..... if we can't get it done there.... it will come here.
Sanity, common sense...
Listen Pan.
We hope many Americans develop a long term relationship with eBola. The world needs population control.
Close the Indian borders "NOW"! Keep the Americans out! Africans would never come to India.
An Indian calling for population control? Now that's rich.
Listen Vaquero.
How 'bout Penguin control?
OH!
I'll pay that one.
Last I heard only five percent of the population in India had running water in their homes.
Ergo - its a shithole with a higher population than Africa.
Listen Edge.
Instead of cutting the h"EDGE" this time try cutting the "WRISTS".
OH! From India. Let's do this Bitchez!
??????????
And about 4 to 6 hours of electricty per day.
Listen,
bang-a-whore why would anyone want to leave one disease ridden failed state cesspool (Africa) to come to India; you know another disease ridden failed state
Listen!
Come'on Bitchez. Is that all you got?!
Seems to be working fine for a "FAILED STATE". Our one shining success is no AFRO-INDIANS! We'll never have a Ferguson Mo, Reverend Jass-ie, or Obamy!
Nor will our "MASTERS" in Israel force us to worship the decrepit naggers.
OH!
Ahimsa. Santana dharma?
Is he holding bacon in that pic?
That one ranks up there with Bibi's bomb.
"See the virus is like this, but is really small and can't be seen without a very special microscope."
Is he the head of the CDC or a tour guide for first graders?
pods
He is speaking as if to a group of first graders. Driving me crazy.
Everyone does realize the CDC is a FOR PROFIT non government organization, right?
For it being an NGO, it certainly seems to be pretty governmental:
http://www.hhs.gov/about/foa/opdivs/index.html
pods
http://vimeo.com/108522744
Frieden, like Chertoff, is here to explain why we're ALL safer in the Tribes warm, reassuring hands.
Bringing in the danger, and then keeping us safe-!
"As we waited for our flight, we sat on the floor next to the boarding gate. What I witnessed while sitting there and subsequent events have changed my life forever. While I sat there, I witnessed Umar dressed in jeans and a white t-shirt, being escorted around security by a man in a tan suit who spoke perfect American English and who aided Umar in boarding without a passport. The airline gate worker initially refused Umar boarding until the man in the tan suit intervened. The event meant nothing to me at the time. Little did I know that Umar would try to kill me a few hours later as our flight approached Detroit. The final 10 minutes of our flight after the attack were the worst minutes of my life. During those 10 minutes I sat paralyzed in fear. Unfortunately, what happened next has had an even greater impact on my life and has saddened me further. When we landed, I was shocked that our plane taxied up to the gate. I was further shocked that we were forced to sit on the plane for 20 minutes with powder from the so called bomb all over the cabin. The officers that boarded the plane did nothing to ensure our safety and did not check for accomplices or other explosive devices."
Yup, keepin' us safe.
BREAKING: Kurt Haskell Exposes Government False Flag ... The Colossal Deceit Known As The Underwear Bomber CaseFrieden, how about we stick you in with an Ebola patient and you show how hard it is to get?
BURN THE NURSES!
FIGHT THE REAL ENEMY!
It sure would create a lot of job openings.
I would not want to be in their shoes that's for sure. They're in the most danger, and they'll be the first to be blamed for any accidents.
I see lots of "shovel-ready" jobs on the horizon thanks to Barry and Freeden.
Long shovels!
quote
...because it isn't ebola. It's Dengue fever.
Massive propaganda campaign in Liberia to convince the public that ebola is real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP6qMY1_6dg&list=UUVEaFSr-jdTa_QE4PPSkVJw
LOL Yeah it's an epidemic over there.
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/ebolie.html
ebola is another carefully orchestrated hoax. but, they can't keep the facade forever, so expect something big to happen in the near future... as posted above, WWIII seems to be the real issue.
Duncan is sleeping?
That is some shaky ass reasoning there.
Diamonds? Hard clear rocks? Rocks which have been under the control of De Beers (Rothschilds) for 100 years?
Why would they want to go in to SL and INCREASE the diamond production? There is already a glut.
Maybe if they said we want to go in there to break the cartel I would entertain it. Or to go in there and STOP production.
And Africans kicking out the Red Cross due to the Red Cross injecting them with Ebola?
That is a big leap there. Common sense would dictate that sick people go to clinics and get treated. Some get better, some do not. And Africans are not the brighest lot. Why not blame the guy who said he would cure you?
And stealing oil? Why didn't we steal Iraq's oil? Because the issue about oil is not about stealing it, it is about keeping in priced in and traded for $$$.
pods
http://www.ageofautism.com/2014/08/senior-government-scientist-breaks-13...
Didn't want to take a crack at my reasoning on your first link?
I have no problems debating MMR vaccines or vaccines in general in regards to autism. My kids were late in getting shots to allow their immune systems to function properly to minimize these risks.
But how does an autism link invalidate my arguments to what you posted first?
pods
post hoc ergo propter hoc
they killed a pastor and his teem bc they thought the disease was in the bleach. terrified people do desperate things.http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2014/September/Ebola-Aid-Team-Killed-in...
.....sounds like a plan....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69QF8CoySPM
some folks think its a hoax.
Director Frieden needs to volunteer to put on a hazmat suit to demonstrate the effectiveness of his protocols with the next Ebola patient...
Out of an abundance of caution I think you should shut the fuck up...just sayin
Maybe the government should spend their money more wisely. Like training health care workers on dealing with infectious diseases.
NIH waste:
Why Fruit Flies Fall in Love: The National Institutes of Health spent $939,771 on research that has discovered male fruit flies are more sexually attracted to younger female fruit flies. “Video of the encounter,” the scientists wrote, “showed that the male was much more attracted to the young fly.”
Mood-Enhancing Reruns: The NIH squandered another $666,905 for a study into why people enjoy watching re-runs of old TV shows like Seinfeld. “There is something special and comfortable about a “relationship’ in which you already know what the other person is going to say and do,” the study’s lead investigator wrote.
http://marketdailynews.com/2012/10/24/13-mind-blowing-expenses-of-wastef...
Feds Spend $1.5 Million to Study Why Lesbians Are Fathttp://cnsnews.com/news/article/feds-spend-15-million-study-why-lesbians...
"Maybe the government should spend our money and our grandchildren's money more wisely"
Allow me to correct that for you.
Thanks.
Maybe no one dates the fat chicks and they become lesbians. /s
My best friend just loves full sized women. He's my #1 wing man. I work the fit ones, and he works the big ones.
Look, agendas don't just push themselves.
and many more good examples can be found on hashtag #TookMoneyFromEbolaResearch Like a $500 million NIH Ebola research lab found in California named Solyndra
I took that survey the op is refering too. Not only are nurses feeling un-prepared, though i can't speak for anyone but myself, they are also scared due to all the unknowns related to EVD. As front line care givers they know their very lives will be on the line.
Nothing a mandatory Ebola Vax can't fix... Oh wait...
http://www.ageofautism.com/2014/08/senior-government-scientist-breaks-13...
Senior Government Scientist Breaks 13 Years' Silence on CDC's Vaccine-autism FraudI haven't taken the survey, but I can tell you that at this point we do not feel prepared to care for ebola patients. In fact our hospital has not come out with any information whatsoever. We are simply plodding along with all the senseless BS paperwork and routine they have dumped on us especially over the last two years of aca.
But speaking to my co-workers it appears likely we will use some time off if this ebola lands on our doorsteps. Not that we don't care but that we care more for our own as well as our families health not to expose them to this while we are unprepared.
So the hospitals attitude is it wont happen here.
Your a person too. Rescuing yourself is helping a human being.
My hospital is much more prepared. It sent out an email 10 days ago saying "we are ready for ebola". That's all. That made me feel much better. Preparation counts.
CDC Director Frieden is another incompentent clown. Why are we not putting everyone from the effected countries, that are coming into this country, in quarantine?
We should do what Firestone did in Liberia: seal off. Nationals from areas with infections should not be allowed entry. (This is different from stopping flights, which is ineffective b/c a national could go to London and come to US from there.)
Who would YOU rather have protecting you: A nurse or the government?
"I was once again shocked and saddened when Michael Leiter (Tribe?) of the National Counter terrorism Center admitted during these same hearings that intentionally letting terrorists into the U.S. was a frequent practice of the U.S. Government.
"I cannot fully explain my sadness, disappointment and fear when I realized that my government allowed an attack on me intentionally. During this time, I questioned if my country intentionally put a known terrorist onto my flight with a live bomb. I had many sleepless nights over this issue. My answer came shortly thereafter. In late 2010, the FBI admitted to giving out intentionally defective bombs to the Portland Christmas Tree Bomber,the Wrigley Field Bomber and several others."
Yup, our government first BRINGS in the terror (terror from Ebola to Underwear bombers to Mo Atta) to keep us all safe.
BREAKING: Kurt Haskell Exposes Government False Flag ...Here's an example of a foiled false flag, by the courts no less. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/probe-of-silencers...
All it is gonna take is five healthcare workers in a couple US cities and our entire healthcare system will collapse. No one will go to work in hospitals.
True, I will be one of the first out the door when it comes here. This job is not worth my life. Many others have told me this as well privately. Their policy of spreading confidence we can handle this is not working. When will I see one of these pontificating CDC representatives working directly with an Ebola patient? Wouldn't that instill confidence in the masses? Don't think I will see that photo op.
Miffed
I do see the Liberian 'body removal workers' with their mud boots, kitchen gloves, plastic bags and duct tape - and they appear to be exposed cumulatively to vast quantities of highly infected materials. Why are they not all sick/dead? The one thing I see them doing frequently in photos is getting sprayed down with heavily chlorinated water. There isn't an equivalent complete disinfection step prior to PPE removal in our protocols, is there? Maybe we need a 'spraydown' room prior to protective gear removal?
i'm going out on a limb here, but just maybe it's because the dead tend to cough less?
Or maybe it is not as contagious as previously thought?
Or maybe the protocols followed over there are actually more effective? (bleach versus barrier)
At this point who the hell knows, but the transmission of it is nowhere near airborne like as commonly accepted. There are whole groups of people standing outside these "hospitals" waiting. A woman (supposedly infected) even wandered out and was 10 feet from them.
Couple that with an ambulance holding 8 people in it, cars with sick people pulling up and the basic sanitation of Haiti with bleach and you would think there would be hundreds of thousands of deaths there at this time.
Could still be expanding exponentially though. But even if it is, it is tough to extrapolate that out a year with no change in rates.
pods
1. their mortality rate is unknown. but i get your point.
2. i am wondering if they have a low (miniscule) level of immunity because generations have lived there?
3. maybe the are dowsed with bleach on exposed skin and it kills the pathogen before it enters the system? No idea?
4. i have been looking to make/buy what they have been using successfully? but now i wonder. biohazard level 4 seems a little more complicated. modified scuba gear? i'd be in a space suit on my own planet.
The "avoid panic at all costs" line out of Washington is falling flat on its face, as I expected that it would. Hospital workers are not idiots. They are trained professionals, and they know what they are dealing with. This situation requires a calm and serious address to the nations healthcare workers: honest as to the extent of the threat, sincere in the attempt to provide support to staff, and grateful for their assistance and cooperation. You will not get this from Washington, and unfortunately, in my experience, you are unlikely to get this from your local hospital administration. The threat demands leadership at least at the local level, and there are few real leaders in healthcare, because like most businesses, it is run by bean counters, yes-men, and sycophants. I am truly sorry for all of you.
It gets interesting when people realize the lies and that all Obama was cpncerned about was his party winning the November election. Flooding illegals into the country.
I continue to be amazed how long the train of the American state can barrel down the tracks on fire and half-derailed.
It is amazing to see. Everytime something happens that you think might be the knockout blow it just moves along until the next chaotic event.
That's what's called American Exceptionalism. Americans are like roaches. We'll be here after the Apocalypse.
If I was a nurse right now I'd be switching jobs to anything else.
http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/2j0lgc/texas_healthcare_worker_tes...
"My wife is an icu nurse there.
There are two nurses in question, one, the female nurse tested positive, another male nurse is "under observation".
Both took care of Duncan when he was first admitted, before they got the full gumby suits. They just wore normal gloves, mask, face shield, and over garments.
This is what is recommended by the CDC, but it is not enough, such microscopic amounts of bodily fluid is all that is required to transmit the virus, and it can live for days outside of the body.
These nurses did everything right, The hospital was simply not prepared. They did not have the correct gear, and these nurses are the ones who are going to pay for it."
Did they get any recent shots is the 10,000,000 dollar question???
If they can fk this up I'd never let them near your wife: http://vimeo.com/108522744
Not my wife, I just post the comment to get the word out.
The CDC director is still claiming that "the protocols work" and in the press conference today he stated that the nurse was using PPE with respiration.
LIES.
Thank you, not knowing the truth is suffocating. You saying something that makes sense. Its like I can breath again. Thanks.
The political hacks at the CDC and in the Obama administration should be fired.
This means they are il-prepared for what they have on their hands. It's the Chicago politiacal machine in charge and it's a disaster.
Normal masks, gowns glove and face shields is all we have (at this point). I have ignored calls and texts to pick up shifts and "make some money" all weekend.
That is exactly what I said in earlier comments when Frieden first appeared on the tele. The CDC was, has been, and continues to downplay this threat. I said at the time that to do so was "criminally negligent." Now you see why. In my opinion, he has committed involuntary manslaughter on this poor nurse. How many more will die to this incompetence? That number could be hundreds of thousands, or even more.
These 2 doctors agree with you JoeMayo. Pass this info on to your wife. http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/09/commentary-health-wor...
The more this Frieden speaks the less confidence he projects. Today it's like he is addressing a kindergarden class. They actually don't know if "the protocol was breached" or if their protocol is totally ineffective. Still no intelligent answer as to why they don't restrict passengers from effected countries to those who have passed a 21 day quarantine.
The protocol was not breeched. In fact, it was never applied. There are specific protocols to handle a BSL 4 agent like Ebola. It can only be dealt with safely in a biohazard level 4 lab where decontamination is assured. No one walking around in a hazmat suit is safe because it must be decontaminated by others to exit it safely.
I work in a BSL level 2 lab as most USA hospitals. There is NO WAY I can handle this agent safely no matter how careful I am. That some one is asking me to do so is criminal.
Miffed
And this is why the nurse's family will get rich from the lawsuit. Reckless endangerment, criminal negligence. . .
If you want me to deal with ebola, I'm not going to pay attention to what biohazard level it is and I'm just going to assume that something has changed and we don't know how virulent it really is anymore, and just assume the worst. That means a hermetically sealed suit with its own air supply that gets drenched in something that will kill the shit out of ebola before taking it off.
These 2 doctors agree with you El Vaquero: hermetically sealed suit with its own air supply.
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/09/commentary-health-wor...
Now --is it possible the head of the CDC is in denial or doesn't want to spread panic b/c perhaps very few hospitals have that gear?
Thanks Miffed, I had to educate myself to find out what BSL level 4 was. This is more serious than I thought.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosafety_level
A nurse I talked to told me rubber gloves, a dust mask, and a greenish smock is PPE lol....I filled her in a bit....
Edit: the lol wasn't. I guess its habit to help myself not completely freak out to the bugout cave....
You are exactly correct Miffed. This substance is not safe to be tested in all but a handful of hospital labs and is not safe to be transported by most medical delivery services. The CDC chief is, as usual, talking out of his ass.
Maybe becaue Ebola is now airborne? This will be denied for a week, but by then it will be too late.
The US of I is run by guys like this, who let in the virus and is a member of the same group who massacred Gazan women and children.
Well, the knowledge of these creatures is building and the blowback against them will be EPIC!
Building, yes, but very very slowly. That's the great thing about controlling newspapers, teevee and Hollywierd...you decide what the orcs get to see and hear.
Side issue, is every f*cking position of importance in America held by one of the Tribe? I thought they were only 2% of the population?
Just watch Ebola spread as West Africans infected, but not showing signs flood onto the US kust in case for treatment.
This is quickly spiraling out of control for the politically correct crowd in DC.
May be a silver lining here. Could lead to a reaction against the PC nation-wreckers when ordinary people realize the truth: That PC is literally a fatal disease.
Right on cue: It's the hospitals' fault.