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2nd Ebola Patient's Akron, Ohio Family Home Cordoned Off
Having now identified the 2nd health care worker infected with Ebola as Amber Joy Vinson, and discovered she (against CDC advice) traveled across the nation to her family home in Tallmadge (near Akron, Ohio), we now find out that, as WKYC reports, police have cordoned off the home of her mother and are allowing only limited access to the residential development.
Dallas nurse Amber Joy Vinson spent last weekend in Tallmadge, an Akron suburb, before testing positive for the Ebola virus.
Summit County Public Health officials are still trying to determine who Vinson may have seen and where she went while she was visiting family. A family member has already self-quarantined himself in a Tallmadge home following Vinson's positive test.
Interviews to determine Vinson's whereabouts are expected to take time, said Summit County Public Health Medical Director Margo Erme, and people will be interviewed twice to determine whether or not they were in contact with Vinson.
"We have been in there all day to see if there are additional contacts and to see where those additional contacts may be, and also the nature of those contacts," Erme said.
Quarantine needs will be determined on an individual basis, Erme said.
Health officials learned the Vinson had been in the county at around 10 a.m. Wednesday.
Police have taped off a home in Tallmadge they believe belongs to the mother of Ebola patient Amber Vinson.
The home is on Stonegate Trail, in the Stonegate Reserve housing development.
At one point, about seven police cars were outside the home and later, that number went down to three.
Police are only allowing limited access to the development for residents.
Officials say Amber Vinson stayed at a home in Tallmadge #Ebola
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There is nothing more bleak or depressing, than Akron Ohio. Make that any city in Ohio.
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Nothing to do with the related article, but if we do hit 10k cases a week in that shithole cluster of countries in W. Africa -- someone needs to seal off those countries with force. If you approach the border you are shot on site. No questions asked.
Let the virus burn itself out. After all -- its these assholes that decided to eat a raw monkey.
Dont worry they will be shooting people soon enough for your safety.
RIPS
MRAPS???
SMG's
why not mopp gear???
OH MY WORD...
She apparently called the CDC the day of the return flight, indicating she had a TEMPERATURE of 99.5. The person on the CDC end said as long as it was below 100.4 (FEVER), she coulld fly back to Dallas. So, she didn't travel against the recommendations of the CDD. She implicitly sought their guidance, and they approved the flight.
If any blame can be put on her, it's her trust in the government.
Well said.
Flame throwers!
I hate to feed the tin hats, but,
there are persistent reports of people pouring formaldehyde in wells in the hot zone. The stink on this is that this is evidence that Ebola is a myth, because formaldehyde poisoning mimics Ebola symptoms. It doesn't. Formaldehyde can destroy the lungs and stomach, it kills red blood cells and is deadly to children, but you wouldn't mistake that for the bleed out of Ebola, so Whassup?
If there is some truth in this, it looks like a desperate reaction to a horrible reality. The medics think it's in the water supply, which is logical in that climate, and formaldehyde might be all they have which will reliably kill the virus at low concentrations, which means....
there may be a new and nasty transmission mechanism at work.
If so, expect flash overs soon in the capital cities, in which everyone is infected, more or less at once.
Zombie apocalypse anyone?
Bleach. Keep the Clorox handy.
Pool shock (calcium hypochlorite) is better. It has a ten year shelf life, bleach only lasts six months. Very concentrated, easy to make enough for all your needs
maybe suck on a water heater for a month......
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/(link edited)"Dr Ribner had just 3 days to prepare Emory staff and the facility for the arrival of two Ebola-infected patients after he got a phone call on July 30 from an air ambulance service. Fortunately, the facility had been practicing for just such an event and was equipped to handle it. ... He explained that the body weights of the patients increased by 15 to 20 kg, yet they were hypovolemic because of third-spacing and had vascular damage and low albumin. They lost 5 to 10 L of fluid a day, which requires "a Herculean effort to keep up with," he said. His patients were more than a week into their illness upon arrival and had hypokalemia, hypocalcemia, hyponatremia, and nutritional deficiency. In underdeveloped countries, the weight gain may not be as much because of an inability to keep up with fluid losses.
Viral RNA was detected on skin and in blood, urine, semen, vomit, stool, and endotracheal suctioning. However, it was not in dialysate, on environmental surfaces in the bathroom, or on high-touch areas on the day of patient discharge."
Stastically, there's likely to be 5 to 8 infected yet undiagnosed people for each of the 3 thus far Ebola vectors on US soil (though I doubt it HAS only been 3 thus far) - Duncan infected two so far that are confirmed, just in the span of 10 days, and the incubation period is 21 days from last exposure (so 21 days from yesterday regarding this new case).
At any rate, if so, and let's use the lower range #, that's 15 infected, NOT diagnosed nor in isolation.
Now, do that math all over with the new #.
15 x 5 = 75.
75 x 5 = 375
And so on and so forth.
The incubation period and vague initial symptoms are a real problem here.
*And this assumes the level of difficulty of transmissibility the CDC is publicly proclaiming.
Yo Truth.The numbers get out of hand way quickly. And I am far from reassurred that the transmission vector has not modified.
But don't worry, be happy, and most of all: BTFD.
It's exponential growth in real life once the virus is imbedded in any densely populated area, and in many ways, Ebola will have an easier time being transmitted in a place where the majority of the population cluster around health facilities and have easy, common access to rapid transit (personal vehicles, commercial aircraft, subways, trains, buses).
Besides, there's no herd immunity in developed nations to Ebola RNA
filovirus (there's little herd immunity outside of any place other than sub-Saharan Africa, for that matter).
Too bad she didnt travel to family in Borough Park, Brooklyn.
"Viral RNA was detected on skin and in blood, urine, semen, vomit, stool, and endotracheal suctioning." What the heck, semen, how would you like to be the nurse having to get a semen sample from an Ebola patient.
Make sure that she doesn't have any open sores in her mouth and warn her repeatedly not to swallow any of it. Spit ALL of it into the plastic cup and wear an eye shield in case the patient is a gusher. Getting bukkaked by an ebola patient is serious business folks. This is no time or place for the nurse to engage in fun and games with the patient.
If you still have power you can run a dehumidifier. They take a while to suck out a gallon of water from the air but it is possible.
Make sure it is 73% or better with the rest of the ingredients inert. No fungicide. Just the calcium hypochlorite. I got a pound of it today. ;-) You cannot let it get wet, you add it to the water. It is a deadly chemical, also don't let it get mixed with petroleum products and work with it in a well ventillated area. Eye protection. Use it to mix up bleach, use the bleach to disinfect and drops in your drinking water if you need to disinfect it too. 1 pound good for 10,000 gallons of water (all fresh in my mind because I just dealt with it).
I like lithium hypochlorite. Not quite as noxious as calcium or sodium hypochlorite and safer on plastics. Vicious on organic material.
The stuff is strong and bad ass. Anyone know how much to use with bigger water jugs? I will check the web and youtube but it is a good thing for ZH members to know about.
The idea of sheltering in place is attractive at the moment, because you want to do something, and the threat is low, depending where you live.
As this progresses, it may be smarter to give up the idea of remaining where you live, give up the convenience- and decide to move to a place that is remote, and away from major air routes. Not sure of the calculus yet-it depends on where you are, and your finances. There is obviously a huge disparity in risk between staying in the LAX area, or moving to a remote place; and the second part is finances.
If you had 50K, and could fly your family to Barrow, Alaska, http://www.cityofbarrow.org/ , and live for two years - maybe that is the better choice. You could buy an RV, and live off of triscuits and hamspread. It is worth considering. The threat isnt high enough yet, but it may be by Christmas. An RV in Barrow Alaska. I will see you there.
Back in the day, I lived at a strip club in Dallas - Obsessions - knew the girls like family. Spent a couple nights partying there with Sting. I can hear the pounding music, can remember placing the twenties under the sweaty thongs. Remember a girl like Nina Pham; jesus, would be the death of me Tôi mong muon met cô gái tre dep
Kind of amazing how you stumble on things. I have known all my life who Will Rogers was, but, it wasn't until I randomly picked Barrows, Alaska as a remote location- and then, reading the town website, discovered that Will Rogers died in a plane crash there. Someday, someone is going to ask me how Will Rogers died, and I will answer, casually, Barrows, Alaska. It is almost worth going to Barrows, just to find a bar and raise a glass to Will Rogers.
There are two theories to arguing with a woman. Neither works. -Will Rogers
Good post Mack. Had a question for MsCreant, what is a good brand with just inert ingredients for calcium hypochlorite.
Walmart sells pool shock. Plenty of instructions on the www about how to use it.
Try getting the faint dust of shock on your shins when you have been sweating doing yard work . The dust got on my shins - ouch! Your sweat probably has salt or sodium reacting to calcium hypochlorite. Not a good combo.
I did it once and immediately jumped in the pool.
Good tip about keeping shock around.
Clorox bleach is 1% by volume.
Here in Florida we got the good stuff - swimming pool bleach is 15% by volume!
Swimming pool bleach is usually called chlorine. If you have say jeans or khakis - spill bleam on it and it turns white. Spill chlorine on it and it will pretty much eat through cotton or denim. Strong stuff.
No, it's sodium hypochlorite.
I managed a public pool for 5 years.
Chlorine is a deadly gas. No idiot in their right mind would use chlorine in a public setting.
Chlorine s a pretty bright green. In small amounts smells like freshly baked bread (does not smell like bleach).
BTW, bleach sold at Walmart out here in CAL is 8.25 %. Previously much less concentrated. I guess this saves shelf space. But would require adjustment of old drinking water purification formulas.
That flashover it that which most people observe with influenza epidemics. What most do not realize it that an influenza outbreak happens in the same fashion as an Ebola outbreak as there is always a Patient Zero infected with the new strain.
The reason why the earlier pats of an influenza epidemic is not reported is due to the low lethality of the viral infection.
Most people, therefore,observe the blossoming, where "everyone" is out with the flu, rather than the very beginnings of the Exponential Growth of infected. They are completely aloof and unaware that an initial outbreak has occured as it is not newsworthy (unless someone dies).
Most people, whom do not understand this, will witness the blossoming of Ebola where everyone has bled out and died from the disease. They are just not out from work or held back from school. They will be "out of this World"...so to speak. (Gallows Humor)
Yeah. I am expecting and also forecasting flashovers as that is the end part of the mechanism. It is to be expected.
At that point it will be undeniable. But, tragically, at that point far too many of the unprepared, the ignorant, and the deniers will be dead as it will be far too late.
The medical establishment as a whole, for all their gravitas, have no idea what you are talking about and are entirely unprepared to address such a scenario and will remain unprepared in all events.
Some of the Medical establishment know exactly what I am writing about....some.
They have prepared, some are preparing to take extended leaves of absence...which I suggest is prudent and wise, they are bugging out, and will survive to fight when the Disease has burned through the entire population.
I am not so certain that I'd want to survive to inherit that dystopian world.
But you are correct in your assessment.
your right when this fully blosoms no one will be able to blame formaldehyde or some other nonsense.
Jimmy Carter did this. He wants to look good when compared to Obola.
Attila the Hun looks good...
Meanwhile hedgies are calculating the right tail risk to life insurance companies.
Fuckin' A Great Insight!
And if the insurance company says "No this was an act of God", the proper response is, "No it's an act of fucking stupidity by the CDC and thus, the claim is valid, assholes".
Well, i went to OHIO..
there was nobody there...
O....H....I....O.....
OHIO...
What's round on the ends and high inthe middle?
O-hi-o
God made man, but he used a monkey to do it!
Apes in the blood, and we're all here to prove it...
Yeah and we like it that way.
AD
"Four dead in Ohio"
Too soon?
"The farms of Ohio, were replaced by shopping malls
And Muzak filled the air, from Seneca to Cahuaga Falls..."
Try Cuyahoga Falls
Why didn't they just bomb the villages in Africa like in the opening scene from "Outbreak"?
So, is this actually a thing or is it just a fear distraction from the collapsing economies?
Why don't they just bomb Ohio ?
And Detroit too.
Add Philly to the list.
DC.
NYC.
"Let the virus burn itself out. After all -- its these assholes that decided to eat a raw monkey."
What is the matter with you? Have you no human compassion at all?
Ban all travel to and from the region? Yes.
Setup a proper Cordon Sanitaire and let it burn itself out? Agreed.
Then start making air drops of food and medical supplies into the region. Don't stop and don't land. Just fly over it and chuck it out the back. Send them food, blankets, flashlights and anything else they might need to live if they are not infected and medical supplies so that they can protect themselves while dealing with the infected and waiting for it to burn out.
So quarrantine them off? Yes because it is the smart thing to do. But that doesn't mean you have to be a heartless soulless bastard with the "It sucks to be you" attitude.
You can help people without infecting yourself.
Plus we could pay for it all with less than one half days worth of POMO.
That's what's so disgusting about the bankster race; a fraction of a POMO and we have 10x times better chance at tamping this thing down.
Sorry to say it, but "human compassion" is a large part of the reason why this virus is spreading. It's sad, I know, to see genuinely good people getting devestated by illness. Brave folks, heroes in fact, but misguided.
You know.. if someone comes at you with a bat, you move into the first blow and get close to them to lessen the impact and try to disarm them. If you take a step back, chances are they will crack your skull open. Sometimes aggressive offense is the best course of action. The same is true of this virus, as proven by multiple good souls who have fallen ill and died.
Not everything in life is pretty. It's a big, and ugly world out there. Viruses don't have a code of ethics.
You missed his point - he was proposing a very 'aggressive offfense' = corodon off, stop travel, the works. But help as you can without endangering addition spread Simple, airdrops for the survivors.
And, as he pointed out, cheaper that a half day of POMO. also cheaper than one day of bombing ISIS, which is doing shit.
Re-read the post - aggressive offense without fire bombing. Covering your ass without losing your humanity.
One standard for Dallas (and 'murikans), one standard for everyone else... typical.
Dude - I never said not air drop people into the country -- but in a group of countries where their combined population is 11 million --
10k people a week is 40k in a month. ABSENT exponential growth -- that means in December -- .5% of their population will go from healthy to sick with the virus. Add exponential growth in there and the number could go parabolic and quickly.
When this happens, people are going to try and flee as quickly as they can -- and many of these people will be infected themselves already, and not yet asymptomatic. It will spread -- and quickly thereafter.
So air drop in a ton of stuff into the country -- thats fine. But do this without sealing off this country with threat of death -- and this will spread and quickly, because, people like you, what to be compassionate instead of wanting to survive.
If I am faced with the decision -- myself and the people I care about get sick with a deadly disease (50 people tops) or all 11 million people, and a place I never have been nor hope to go to die -- I would much rather myself and my family survive. I bet when push comes to shove -- you would do the same thing too.
Haus, please run for office. I want to vote for you.
I would love to. Not in the US though.
@ Haus-Targaryen - these assholes have been eating the raw monkey for many years without any problem until perfumed guys like you showed up.
So the 1st thing to do is to shoot you down, NO QUESTIONS ASKED.
i really wish The US government be the 1st to cut contacts with the shithole countries. Because as we speak, washignton is leaking their asses for natural growth hormones.
Anyway, i didnt mean to be this rude, but lets takle the problems while preserving life. There are far worse criminals that those who ate the monkeys, if at all the monkeys where the cause
I am all for preserving life. See my above reply. You have got to seal this place off. Nothing can come out until the virus has burned itself out.
There are potentially 7 billion hosts, with a 70% fatality rate -- it would knock down the world population to less than 2,5 billion people if it were to expand. I would glady sacrifice all 11 million of those people if I and my family and friends could survive this. So then the question becomes -- would you rather sacrifice 70% of the 11 million (7,7 million deaths) or risk 3,5 billion people?
Basic math tells me what to do. Maybe its time to fix your culture when eating raw fucking monkeys and fruit bats has introduced the world to AIDS and now this bullshit. Cook your shit first before eating it. It isn't difficult. If after millions of years of evolution -- we haven't figured this out yet -- those who enjoy raw monkey deserved to get offed.
contained?
Nope.
"ET phone home.
ET...phone home."
We're monitoring it.
OK?
So leave it alone already.
Your prissy questions and comments are wearing us thin here at the CDC
Do you have any idea the amount of resources people like you are causing us to divert from prevention to public relations?
So stop.
It is your civic duty to let us proceed as we should have been already.
Sorry for the repost, but... made some improvements:
I met her in a club down in old Monroe
Where you eat fruit bat and it tastes just like buff-alo-a
Buffa-lo-a a-lo-a.
She walked up to me and she barfed on my shoes.
I asked her name and in a frothy red voice she said, "Ebola"
E-B-O-L-A ebola, Bo-lo-lo ebola
Well, I'm not the world's most healthnutty guy,
But she infected me and liquefied my spine
Gave me ebola, Bo-lo-lo ebola
Well, I'm not dumb but I can't understand
Why CDC says gotta get in this van
Because ebola, Bo-lo-lo ebola, Bo-lo-lo ebola
Well, we drank saline and bled all night,
Under hazmat containment light,
She ate me up and wiped out my spleen,
And said, "dying boy won't you help to spread me?"
Well, I'm not the world's most intelligent guy,
But when I bled from my eyes,
Well I almost fell to the ebola,
Lo lo lo ebola, lo lo lo ebola
I pushed her away.
I crawled to the door.
I puked on the floor.
I got naught left to bleed.
I looked at her, and she at me.
Well just that night I began to pray.
And I always wanted it to just go away, don't want ebola.
E-B-O-L-A ebola.
Nurses will ride planes 'fore they begin to hurl,
It's a messed up, bloody sticky, sick old world,
Because ebola.
Well I gone to Dallas just a week before,
And I never ate a fruit bat before,
Ebola just smiled and infected my glands,
And said, "Dumb bastard, gonna burn you down, man."
Well I'm not the world's most masculine man,
But ebola treat me like a bloody trash can,
Got the ebola.
Lo lo lo ebola, lo lo lo ebola
(Repeat and fade)
Tyler really needs to make this it's own post so it can be preserved forever.
Just in time for Holloween.
THE ALIEN IS IN THE BASKET ON THE BIKE!
THE ALIEN IS IN THE BASKET ON THE BIKE!
The Lunatic is on the Grass...
Soft sweet Zombie Lips...
Tasting dirty bleeding tits...
All just reminding me of the past...
And if the Band your in starts playing different tunes...
This "Ebola" must be spread widely and shared-- I have no doubt it'll go viral!
Made some improvements...
So would you say you were working out The Kinks?
Well played, sir!
+1970
Edit: and might I add: yes, even if it takes me all day, and all of the night.
I met her in a bar down in North Mobo where you drink from a well and it looks just like Pepsi Cola
C-O-L-A Cola
.
Isn't Lebron James from Akron?
Anyway, it says she traveled against CDC advice. Really now?
Selfish whore, she should be left to bleed out in a goddaym 4x4 cell.
Edit: For the down arrow, fuck it don't lock the bitch up, douse her in gas and light that shit up. She chose her own fate when she didn't give a fuck and took a chance infecting others. Light that whore up.
She asked the CDC for permission (not something she was legally required to do) before traveling and they said "yes, it's OK."
She gave a fuck, and went above and beyond.
She gave a fuck? Yeah 132 of them!
She did not even give a fuck about her mother. What does that say.
It says gas can, 87 octane, not even the good stuff.
Agreed. If she lives....she should die.
If they don't get with it really quickly, putting everything and everybody whose been in contact with that first guy that died, the this shit is gonna get out of control.... and kill millions.
There is no prep, no protocol, no action that makes sense except Cordon Sanitaire
Use it or lose it (your whole fucking population)
Meanwhile betcha Obie gives Terrible Typhoid Tom a Public Service Award.
Wrong knukles. Even if patient 1's contagion is contained, it will inevitably start up again somewhere.
What is needed is a realistic response to handling it. That does not include standard USSA medical interventions. They spread it. A Level IV biohazard cannot be contained in a US hospital. Period.
The Africans could contain this if they had resources. If we go back to basics, we can contain it. It will be a threat always, with an annual death toll, but going back to basics will handle it. Cordon Sanitaire, for example.
We lose about 40,000 to car accidents annually. We should be able to contain it to an annual toll a lot less than that. Maybe about the number lost to being bashed with hammers each year, about 800 from memory.
It won't be done at the federal, or even state, government level. It needs to be done at the local level. There's the rub. In the USSA, that won't happen. Ah well, get ready for the dieoff,
When it gets loose in the bongo section there will be no stopping it.
When it hits Mexico CIty and they run up here to open arms we are screwed. Deal with it.....and prepare.
@Glasgow Gary
Have you seen Buffalo?
The women are exceptionally homely in Akron. A friend of mine used to live in Tallmadge, it's not too far from Kent State University.
My brother once lived there and I remember it being called the Armpit of the nation. The makeup is good 'ol hard working and deteriorating middle class that worked in long gone manufacturing facilities. People who are slowly wakening up to the financial storm that is brewing.
I have never been to anywhere in Ohio but John Denver spent a week in Toledo, Ohio, one day ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N47th4QTcLw
I'm sure it's similar deep, penetrating anaylsis which informs your life. We are all so jealous.
Have they killed the dog yet?
ISIS will behead the dog on YouTube.
thats cold..
funny...
but cold..
Was it hundreds or thousands beheaded last weekend?
I think it was 1000, they probably kill dogs too.
Gotta stick it in a gas chamber then incinerate it actually. "This is how these things begin." You can't touch it and there is probably an unsafe distance as well.
IF this is truly an Outbreak.
More Texas Ebola: Amarillo hospital on 'lockdown', patient displaying possible symptoms of virus
http://wtfrly.com/2014/10/15/more-texas-ebola-amarillo-hospital-on-lockd...
There will be scares EVRYWHERE for a while. And afterall, Obama's got this covered. Shit... we're fucked.
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Not sure why the down arrows. You've had two good points so far.
The CDC allowed nurse to fly with fever. WTF?
the CDC gave Vinson permission to get on the plane because she was showing no other symptoms of the virus and her temperature didn't reach the threshold of 100.4 degrees.
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/15/second-dallas-hospital-...
Gotta be fucking kidding me
Yesterday I commented that these fuckers are wanting to create slow leaks with this fuckin thing in order to scare the living dogshits out of the public. I stand by that comment and their actions prove that. This is not the result of sheer incompetence. This is a set up folks.
"Do not infer conspiracy to what is in fact abject incompetence."
Great quote, but when you have a track record of milking bad shit, I tend to think it's planned.
Could be. Could be Clowny though too.
Agree WTF. It is like leadership in DHS or Secret Service.
Bureaucratic Paradox on display for the world.
Idiocracy. She is quarantined, but she can FLY.
I got to admit it is like the Democrats don't care about people and programs or even running the government when they get into the White House. Although Clinton did level out the Military Budget without hurting anyone and then increased the budget for DOD in is last 4 years.
Well it might just be President Obama who just doesn't have enough integrity, Honesty, Intelligence, Knowledge, Experience, or military Service.
Okay. THE US Does not have a System for handling Ebola. So the Nurse was not Quarantined. And they don't know what to call it when they surveil a nurse or doctor. They have no plans, protocols and systems.
At this point we've blown past mere incompetence.
Seriously, someone that treated an ebola patient during the contagious phase actually contacts you to ask if it's safe to travel because she has a low-grade fever and they say "yes"? JFC! This is beyond criminally negligent.
Damn straight!
It is what you get when you have 12 Monkeys.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_Monkeys
"Yesterday I commented that these fuckers are wanting to create slow leaks with this fuckin thing in order to scare the living dogshits out of the public. I stand by that comment and their actions prove that. This is not the result of sheer incompetence. This is a set up folks."
What better way to get a big ass budget plus up? Get yourself a biology degree pronto. You will be paid well on a government contract for years and years to come.
SSS-I wish I was. It's sad what has become of our country.
That guy has to go...as in RIGHT NOW.
Gotstago? Shit, he's getting a promotion and a gig at Goldman after he's done.
I meant to say Gestapo. My bad.
Listen Stuff.
You'll see in "HINDSIGHT" that they were following their protocol and they [CDC] were not wrong.
No one else was infected by the "FLYING NURSE".
It's going to be OK, Zero's. Calm yourselves.
stuff...
please dont feed the trolls
thanks, stacks...
Thanks for the link. WOW, one hand doesn't know that the other hand exists....
It really blows when you can see your hometown on a map of this.
yup. me too. I thought Dallas was a good distance. This is getting real, real quick.
Just remember...
There is just seven degrees of separation from you and every single person who is infected...IN THE WORLD.
You personally know somebody..
that personally knows somebody...
that personally knows someone else...
who personally knows another...
that knows somebody...
who personally knows somebody else...
who knows this nurse who is infected with Ebola.
(It is probably less than seven degrees because of your Geographical location.)
And if the proper combination of circumstances are fulfilled then you will get to meet her up close and personal.
This is quite real...
Two examples...
Two years aho I was visiting Portland, OR and ran into some people whom had moved there from El Cajon, CA . If I had continued talking to them I am certain that I would have found some mutual acquaintances as I live in Lakeside, CA.
I was in the Liqour Store next door to me last week. This young woman started to talk with me. (She said I was tall and I told her that I am normal sized. It is just that she, as well as most of the World, is short.) .
I asked her name after noticing that she was Germanic. She tole me a very familiar name. It turns out that her Great Uncle had taught me to drive...in Phoenix, Arizona, some 38 years ago.
Phoenix is 365 miles away from me.
Portland, Oregon is about 1100 miles away from me.
It is too real.
Lock the mother in her house for 21 days. That'll teach Amber Joy Joy the meaning of the word quarantine. Stupid selfish bitch.
There is something to be said about that.
Who among us, when we catch the flu or a cold, don't put their toothbrush on the side of the sink instead of back in the holder to everyone elses?
When I was in college and somebody got sick they'd always rub his toothbrush in their crack and then spit on it.
Somehow, I always knew there were unique aspects to your higher education;)
Never made it much past manual mamogram 101
Yeah but those mammaries will last a lifetime!
Teach a man to grope women he feeds for a day.
Teach a man to Xray and use a Mamogram, he can work for 20 years till the Robots replace him.
You never took Gender Queer Theory in Plant Pathology 3303 ? Now wonder.
"Never made it much past manual mamogram 101"
So the "Yes Means Yes" law in California is all because of you? Future generations of horney college boys will curse your name forevermore.
It now appears she asked the CDC if it was OK to travel, and they said yes. In other words, don't blame her, blame the CDC.
Hmmm. I gotta think about that one actually.
Yes. Specifically, she checked SEVERAL times, and each time the CDC said as long as her temperature doesn't exceed 100.4, she's clear to fly.
Did she tell them she was going to have sex with multiple partners too?
The CDC forgot to tell her about the 'no seating' restriction...If you carry Ebola virus you can not sit down on anything ever any time, again. Her seat is warm French Toast Ebolanese for the next 5 passengers guaranteed 100% loaded with millions of virus.
E-Z Ebola Transmission Vector
Warm moist foam (sponge) seat cushion or couch where Ebola virus survives for hours, on a bus, bus station, plane, airport, train, train station, cab, waiting room, hospital, doctor office, restaurant.
Coupled with patient sweating and various liquid emissions (blood, gas, bowel) into the cushion seat. Then next victim sitting in warm cushion in it and touching it and wiping it.
That specific seat is probably 'contagious' for 24 hours or more...the seat and virus kept warm and moist.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/10/14/Texas-Ebola-Hospital-Cafeteria-Becomes-Ghost-Town
"Did she tell them she was going to have sex with multiple partners too?"
She's a nurse. That's a given.
She is a young American female and they didn't think to ask her if she was sexually active? So either her sex life is of no importance in transmitting Ebola or they fucked up in not asking.
The CDC knew that the Texas nurses had treated Duncan for two whole days BEFORE putting on protective gear. He was vomiting and had diarrhea.
Yet they classified the nurses as low risk and allowed her to fly! Unbelievable!
And to add insult to injury, they then criticized her for flying!
Might be adding injury to insult here. Not sure id wanna ambulance chase this one though Mr Shakedown Lawyer dude.
Yes, but the nurse should also know better herself not to even ask.
Yeah, she was treating Duncan without protective clothing for 2 days and she thinks it is okay to transit through airports, major transit points, human bottlenecks...? WTF?
Common sense is dead. Truly it is.
I guess it's time to run away Brave Sir Robin.......and yes.....common sense is well dead....killed by that damn rabbit.
"Yes, but the nurse should also know better herself not to even ask."
And there you have it. Taking personal responsibility for your own actions, vs deferring to some so-called "authority."
"It now appears she asked the CDC if it was OK to travel, and they said yes."
If that turns out to be true and widely disseminated, I fully expect ebola to fade from the MSM limelight and twerking ISIS members to take center stage ;-)
So lemme get this straight, there are more medical "folk" infected with ebola than patients?
Sure nmewn, which is why we need a travel ban on all medical personelle who might have been in the same building as a patient, while allowing 1,200/week of the great unwashed who are more likely every day to be infected, into the country.
Now, if you understand that, I'm worried about both of us.
No no no no no, Kaiser
I do understand
It's called Cloward Piven Strategy
And it's working like a fine Swiss watch
nein nein nein
The medical staff need a chartered bus to Frieden's office.
Of Fucking Course.
Who do you think has all the contact with the infected, diseased, bleeding out, sloughing their fucking innards, bloody diarrhea and vomit all over?
The health care workers.
That's right kiddies.
This shot gets much worse they're all gonna either be dying, dead or calling in disappeared.
There will be nobody to care for the millions dying.
Be ready to shelter in place for a 21 day national quarantine .... that's the only common sense answer.
Nothing else will stop this shit!!!!
Couldn't agree more, knucks,
but the cordone sanitaire won't be that sanitary.
Long buzzards.