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CDC Demands 132 Passengers That Flew With 2nd Ebola Patient Report For Testing
But, but, but they said it wasn't contagious unless you came into contact with bodily fluids. According to the CDC, the 2nd health-care worker infected with Ebola traveled on Frontier Flight 1143 from Cleveland to Dallas on October 13th and are asking all 132 passengers on the flight to get tested. One question... what about the thousands of people that those 132 passengers came in contact with in the last 2 days?
- NEW TEXAS EBOLA PATIENT FLEW DOMESTICALLY NIGHT BEFORE FEVER APPEARED -- CDC
Via Bloomberg,
Second health-care worker with Ebola traveled on Frontier flight 1143 from Cleveland to Dallas on Oct. 13, CDC says in e-mailed statement.
CDC asking 132 passengers on flight to call 1-800-CDC-INFO, plan to begin interviewing passengers about flight, monitoring those who need it
Health-care worker exhibited no signs, symptoms of illness while on flight, according to crew
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Frontier Airlines Statement
“At approximately 1:00 a.m. MT on October 15, Frontier was notified by the CDC that a customer traveling on Frontier Airlines flight 1143 Cleveland to Dallas/Fort Worth on Oct. 13 has since tested positive for the Ebola virus. The flight landed in Dallas/Fort Worth at 8:16 p.m. local and remained overnight at the airport having completed its flying for the day at which point the aircraft received a thorough cleaning per our normal procedures which is consistent with CDC guidelines prior to returning to service the next day. It was also cleaned again in Cleveland last night. Previously the customer had traveled from Dallas Fort Worth to Cleveland on Frontier flight 1142 on October 10.
Customer exhibited no symptoms or sign of illness while on flight 1143, according to the crew. Frontier responded immediately upon notification from the CDC by removing the aircraft from service and is working closely with CDC to identify and contact customers who may traveled on flight 1143.
Customers who may have traveled on either flight should contact CDC at 1 800 CDC-INFO.
The safety and security of our customers and employees is our primary concern. Frontier will continue to work closely with CDC and other governmental agencies to ensure proper protocols and procedures are being followed.”
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As we warned before - coming to an airplane near you soon...
US Airways Flight 850 from Philadelphia to Punta Cana - October 8th 2014
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but it is CLEVELAND nonetheless
And the rivers don't catch fire anymore.
Of course, your tap water might now...
Here's the part I'm having some concern about - the R-naught value for ebola in a West African slum is <=2, according to what has been reported.
But the R-naught value for the same disease, inside of a modern Dallas hospital is now at least 2, so it's >=2.
How does that happen, exactly? How does this hospital do worse at preventing the spread of this than the Liberians have done thus far?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/10/02/352983774/no-seriously-how-co...
...and what about that dude that flew to Nigeria? Intercepted in the airport, but still there were
something like 20 infections, 8 deaths and almost 1000 people monitored for symptoms.
Guess that's just an R-naught 'outlier'...
Natural immunity in the African population is whats missing from the math.
The data sets prolly DO NOT apply here.
+1000
People don't seem to be getting that.
The population of west africa has been gaining immunity to this for quite a while. Americans have not. We are like the native Americans were, vis a vis the Europeans, with regard to this disease.
Yes, indeed +1000. I missed this idea at the beginning. But now I see clearly the difference between Ebola that has infected Africa for over 40 years, and North America, totally new to Ebola. No person hee can have even a 1% immunity factor. Indians were wiped of the earth by European Smallpox, because the disease was totally new to the population, while native Europeans had some immunity built up. So YES, Ebola is extra dangerous loose in a North American population. Something the CDC does not even acknowedge. CDC wants us to go to sleep, so that no economic impact is felt, it is DOLLARS over HEALTH. Watch this if even one more health care worker contracts Ebola, the Nurses and others will go on vaction and live of their husbands paycheck till things settle down. Question, would I, for 27 dollars an hour, work even one shift in Ebola containment room? No, I would not, not for $27 up to $80 an hour, nurses see money can't buy you back your life. The weak link in Ebola is the Health Care worker. They could walk at anytime.
The current outbreak is larger than all combined for the past 40 years
I doubt that millions of Africans obtained immunity previously from a few hundreds of isolated cases.
And, when the HC workers stop coming and more infections continue, then the nuclear power plant workers stop going to work. When this happens, then we will be teetering on the edge of disaster.
Good point. We have so antisepticised (is that a word?) this country, that we have not allowed our bodies to develop the natural immunities they would normally develop. Anti-bacterial wipes, soaps, etc. may actually be the downfall of our society. Some current studies have shown that conditions such as asthma are a direct result of children not being exposed to enough bacteria during their early years. When was the last time you saw a kid being allowed to play in the dirt?
If this Ebola scare is the real thing, I think we're truly fraked.
That could certainly be part of it. Lack of experience with it here could be part of it too. But they'd better figure things out quick, because as long at the R0 value at Presbyterian is >1, it is in effect acting as an incubator for the virus.
BL, My theory is that all these "victims" are CIA assets pretending to be ill and dying. The main goal here is to get you to give up more of your rights.
what are these rights of which you speak?
Oh, those. yeah, those disappeared awhile ago.
BadLibertarian
Possible explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermack%E2%80%93McKendrick_theory
Only for those who understand math (not me). I'm reading it in chapter 26 of SPILLOVER (David Quammen).
No idea what that means, but if it bothers you....I'm sure I'm not cool with it either
PC
I think you need to have worked for some PC-infested part of the government to understand that this level of insane bullshit is completely normal. It's just not usually so life and death.
They were carefully tracking down each contact and insuring their health by constant monitoring, now they're demanding you report for testing. Anyone see a trend here?
Why, no. I mean, it didn't go from voluntary quarantine to enforced quarantine for Duncan's family, did it? Oh, wait...
Pretty soon it will be armed escorts to Camp FEMA for those suspected to be exposed, and if you don't have ebola when you get there, you will acquire it while there. And the only way you're leaving is when they dump the ashes from your cremated corpse in a mass grave someplace.
I can see forced vaccinations in the future. I can see having to show a wristband that proves you were vaccinated before being allowed to do anything in public. I can further see some morons hocking said wristbands on ebay for outrageous sums of fiat. But then, I'm an incredibly cynical bastard.
.."I can see forced vaccinations in the future. I can see having to show a wristband that proves you were vaccinated before being allowed to do anything in public"..
..or maybe a mark on the forehead or wrist..
Oh..
What I CAN'T see is what people are going to be willing to:
-staff the FEMA camps
-go fucking door to door rounding people up
-go door to door vaccinating
Seriously, follow you logic. People go home. Even roid raging DHS assholes and mercs.
Do you have a droid army theory to match? I don't see it.
that's what Somalis are for
Somalis I can definitely handle.
I'll make them a sandwich.
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The handing of this has been so inept, it is not funny. Better to have not been so arrogant in claiming all is well and, instead, have panicked and locked down everyone near this guy first thing as well as having a flight ban from the effected areas of Africa.
Instead of operating with an abundance of caution, they didn't want to appear to overreact and look at the results. What a disaster.
Yet, the flights from Africa arrive daily to this day.
Absolutely agree with you khakuda. Remember all the "experts" repeating Ebola infections cannot happen within America's advanced medical system?
There is no Ebola. It's a fuckin hoax.
The same assholes who gave you Sandy Hook now tell you that you must be detained because of the Mystery Disease.
If there are any actual infections at all, it's most likely Dengue Fever.
It's getting to the point where that kind of talk is downright offensive.
Don't sweat that kind of talk until its downright illegal.
Look at it like the targets for the anthrax scare.Daschle...
Selected for max fear.
It's real, just not as we think.
The poison pen pals were all hold outs or critics of the Patriot Act.....
They got their act together though. Message was received.
This is different.
little collateral damage with the post office & reporter.
doncha think?
there's also more subtle things going on. SV40...airport scanners...emf
got cancer?
mary sherman's minky
Only a hoax until you have it.
You are so correct. The lack of skepticism is appalling.
Many here know about the scams of just the past 2 years or so, Sandy Hook, Boston, MH-17, ISIS, Khorasan Group, and the daily "Winston Smith" economic numbers, and yet they choose to buy this BS hook, line and sinker.
Like people should really believe that they lie all the time, but just not about this?!
LOL
An American, not US subject.
"FUD me once, shame on you. FUD me twice, shame on me."
Wise move....we get mini 9/11s everyday. Keep the wound raw and pour salt in it every so often. I am not sure if this thing is a Hoax or the real deal...but, I am pretty sure they are getting what they want...whatever the fuck that is.
Pardon my French, but how could you be so fucking delusional as to think that Sandyhook or Ebola are hoax's?
Oh right, the big, bad incompetent federal government was somehow competent enough to pull off contriving a serious disease outbreak across the world.
Go back to your fucking bunker.
Yeah, there are a good deal of batshit crazy ideas out there. However, with the pricks in charge it is a good exercise to stop and consider all of the options at times. I am assuming you are not a pyscopath...so put on your psycopath shoes when considering the options.
How did I lose my freedoms? Little buy little and then all of a sudden.
Sandy Hook is so fake it is actually funny.
Just four highlights for the uninitiated:
1) One of the helicopter feeds shows unmarked police cars parked all nice and neat in the lot. No hodge-podge of teacher or admin cars.
2) CNN had footage of some cops from a prior drill at another school cued up to run during a "live" feed. LOL
3) The media has been nothing but mum on the filmed and witness commented on chase and apprehension in the woods by the school.
4) And my all time favorite, the footage of Robbie Parker laughing it up and asking for direction before getting into character at a news conference on the supposed shooting death of his daughter about 24 hours earlier. "And the 2012 Razzie in acting goes to Robbie Parker."
Now I can always respect an informed opinion different than mine. What I can't respect is an uninformed opinion, even if it is in agreement with mine. Sort of like arguing that Oswald shot JFK, but not knowing what "back and to the left" or the "magic bullet" is.
An American, not US subject.
And we KNOW they were unmarked police cars because they were UNMARKED! Dead giveaway.
Wow, you've convinced me - that is obviously the simplest and most logical explanation for the slaughter of 22 5 and 6 year olds I have ever heard...
I would love to hear you tell one of the mothers of one of the kids killed that Sandyhook is so fake it's actually funny.
Seriously, do you believe this shit you say?
Oh right, Obama did all this so he could come take your guns...(As if Obama gave 1/5 of a fuck about dipshits like yourself)
Am I missing any of it?
Obama gives 0/5 shit. Same ratio as Bush.
Did you miss this little gem?
http://winteractionables.com/?p=14188
Crises actors, one and all.
How about this lady who was at Sandy Hook, the Boston Smoke Bombing and the attempted murder of both of the Tsarnaev brothers?! She was a "witness" at ALL three. LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj91rDAWNb8
An American, not US subject.
"The only truth is their lies."
Listen, I had a county sheriff tell me it was a hoax & referred to the FBI's homicide statistics & the convoluted way you have to find them.
You no not of what you speak.
Robbie is that you?
Are you a sock puppet or just an uninformed useful idiot?
"The first evidence that Adam Lanza was not the gunman
Once it is realised that there was no .223 calibre weapon on or near the body of Adam Lanza, then there is no possible way he could have been the gunman. Once you realise that Adam Lanza was not the gunman, due to the lack of the actual murder weapon, then the question must be asked; “Who murdered Adam Lanza?”
It is impossible for the murder weapon to be in the trunk of the black Honda sedan. There is nobody to place that weapon in the trunk of the Honda! The ‘Bushmaster’ .223 cannot be the real murder weapon!"
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/04/the-problems-with-t...
Since it was impossible for Lanza to be the gunman, why aren't the authorities trying to apprehend the real Sandy Hook gunman? Is it because the real gunman is in the employ of the authorities and the authorities are lying?
Cicero: "A liar is not to be believed even when he speaks the truth." How can you know when he's being truthful?
The weapon in the trunk of the Honda was A Saiga 12 gauge. You can clearly see it on the video. But then again, that would require you knowing your stretched wide asshole from a hole in the ground when it comes to firearms. Dickhead
Top Ten Reasons: Sandy Hook was an Elaborate Hoax
http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/01/10/top-ten-reasons-sandy-hook-was-an-e...
The weapon in the trunk of the Honda was a Saiga 12 gauge. You can clearly see it on the video.
But then again, that would require you knowing your stretched wide asshole from a hole in the ground when it comes to firearms. Dickhead.
No proof that .223 bullets killed the children at Sandy Hoax ...
No proof that any children were killed at Sandy Hoax ...
The School was unused at the time, except for this Shooting Simulation Exercise
Funny thing about human behavior and "laws" that cannot be enforced...
Thank god I only flew out of Dallas Love yesterday.
So, is this an admission that it's airbone?
I hope the CDC is working with the Federal Reserve, so when they tell the truth about the airborne virus Janet will have enough paper and ink in stock.
Beginning to think of moving upwind of Dallas.
South or West would probably be the best route.
Proof they are beginning to think that there may be another form of transmission
Ebola. Just another one of their scams.
Next thing you know they'll be staging school shootings or false-flag bombings in the street.
An American, not US subject.
"Daddy, where did Swine Flu go? It was eliminated after the pols and crats paid enough to big pharma. You can cure disease with money, daddy? Yes, it appears you can, dear."
Thanks a lot, Duncan, you asshole.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2791171/ebola-victim-thomas-eric...
If I weren't concerned that handling Duncan's corpse would turn me into a blood-shitting, eyeball-melting zombie, I would dig up said corpse and piss on it. As it is, I will have to settle for giving you a greenie.
Airline stocks to 0! Let's go!
I thought I also heard someone say you can't get Ebola from sitting next to someone? .. or was that just on the bus?
And public toilet seats!
When you flush, the water sprays up as microdrops
+1 She may have reported using the restroom on the flight.
Ebola or not, I hate when cold water splashes up on my ass.
Better than warm water...
What can't you catch on a bus.
DP
F&$k Ebola. I'm not going to start worrying until my stool DOESN'T have blood in it.
And the hits just keep rolling....
Meanwhile, four years ago, the administration of President Barack Obama moved with virtually no fanfare to abandon a comprehensive set of regulations which the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had called essential to preventing international travelers from spreading deadly diseases inside the United States.
The regulations proposed under the Bush administration would have granted the federal government a power of “provisional quarantine” to confine airline passengers involuntarily for up to three days if they exhibit symptoms of certain infectious diseases. Federal officials would also have been able to quarantine passengers exposed to people with those symptoms.
I’ve got them convinced at my work that Muslims, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists do not get Ebola. Only X-ians get Ebola and this is an attack by Jesus.
What about the people on Duncan's flight from Dulles to DFW? The CDC said at the time that it was not a problem because he wasn't showing symptoms at the time. WTF ?!?
And recall that the nurse was isolated within 90 min of reporting that she had a fever.
Was she ASYMPTOMATIC on that flight? And still they want to hear from passengers?
I don't consider myself an alarmist, but as an engineer, the lack of consistent leadership and direction from a SCIENTIFIC agency within the federal government is NOT very comforting. Also, I'm glad that I do not own any airline stocks...
Par for the course ...
Well, that was before we had to first case of person to person transmission in 'Murica. Now they realize this is serious shit and they have to abandon the political platitudes and do some doctor type stuff.
One is most infectious when they are not showing symptoms(signs). It is called an incubation period. I know, I know, the govmint has told us one can not get it unless one is showing symptoms, BUT then again, they've been wrong about everything else.
Oh Katrina ..... you're baaaaack!
Comrades! If you have traveled on the same airline as the infected subject or if you've visited an originating or connecting airport serviced by the same airline, please report immediately to the CDC for asset forfeiture...err, I mean medical testing. The CDC particularly welcomes all Canadians holding large quantities of spending cash.
How long before someone thinks, why should I report to those dumbasses that totally mishandled this from the start. I'll just take gatorade and Imodium, I'll treat it myself. . . and happens to be positive for the virus.
"I want to die at home."
I already told my wife that, if I come down with this thing, I just want to be put out of my misery. The next discussion is the best way to off oneself without infecting family and friends.
"the best way to off oneself without infecting family and friends."
Peacefully wandering New York museums.
or the halls of congress
Off yourself by going to the busiest intersection in your town, sit down, douse yourself with gasoline and strike a match. Let nature takes it course. I hope someone will notice.
go wherever the most politicians/bankers/media people are in one place and projectile whatever over them
Take 5 white House tours and then go up and enjoy Wall Street.
personal charter to the 'holy land'....
+100 on both accounts. Most people try to treat themselves at home first, and most people deal with unpleasant ideas by pretending that something else is happening.
"I only have the flu."
"I hate doctors."
"I hate hospitals."
and so on
The Koroma Theory on Ebola: Real, Exacerbated or Largely Faked?
http://winteractionables.com/?p=15599
Am I being anti-constitutional if I ask why one of the only nurses in the country caring for a patient with a class 4 deadly virus in isolation was allowed to fly during the period of care until they were declared clean?
or is that just common sense
Be careful what you wish for. I can see "potential" ebola carriers falling under the control of DHS with literally NO idea how they got there or no process to remove ones-self. I had a work colleague that years ago found himself on the "no-fly" list. He almost went insane from the stress of it. He lost his job, unable to fly. Last I knew, the filthy cock-suckers at DHS NEVER did tell him why nor did they remove him. His Republican Congressman was NO HELP AT ALL. The great State of Virginia.
" no process to remove ones-self"
Going to the camp will ensure death. Gun battle in your office park is better odds.
The nurse's name is Amber Vinson - it was just announced on Sky News
What, no HIPAA?
because common sense is culturally insensitive in this environment
Common sense is this years' oxymoron
If I were a passenger, desparately trying to come to the US for treatment, I would take aspirin, Motrin and Tylenol to reduce my fever (in early stages) to get through airport "security."
The dentists around here aren't taking any travel history either.
Dick Durban's office today said that the Sentator has no position statement on stopping air traffic from Ebola ridden countries.
The top leadership in government is totally incompetent. Imagine the crony minions under them, hired for political payback coming to a community near you to run the hospitals and "quarantine camps."
You'd be much happier taking midol, drinking chardonnay, smoking some Virginia slims, and listening to Delilah.
Gave Rep. Mark Sanford's office a call in D.C today. Gave my position, and was told by his staffer that she was "unable to comment" on his position. Guess he figures the virus won't make it to Argentina...
The question I'd have is NOT who flew with her but who sat in the seat the flights since? Did she use the toilet during the flight and touch the overhead bins or edge of the hatch coming and going? How about the seat in the boarding area - was it used by other flights? There are simply too many points of contact to start to run down when you look at it that way.
Yep and did she drop a deuce when on said toilet.
Cruise ship companies gonna get hit hard.
First cruise ship with a case going down big. One way to ruin a company.
If you knew you (or your associate) had it, maybe you could book passage and then buy some puts on the cruise line for your estate.
Hey, it worked on 9/11.
******** Ebola nightmare scenario**********
The nightmare scenario: a mutating Ebola that spreads… The Ebola virus circulating in West Africa is already different from previous strains.
Latest:
http://tersee.com/#!q=ebola&t=text
Recall the olden days when "Special Hospitals" were commonly known as FEMA caps.
"CDC Considers Sending U.S. Ebola Patients to Special Hospitals"
Cruise ships? What about fucking Wal Mart! ever thought about wha'ts touched their fricking never cleaned nasty ass buggies.
How does a neo-con manchurian candidate in the Oval Office throw the coming mid-term elections to his neo-con puppet masters?
A summer of fake "illigal floods," and Ebola scares surrounded in uncovered up incompetence.
Does anyone really believe the past few days "honest" and "forthright" admissions by the admin and CDC about their Ebola incompetence.? They normally cover up and lie to the heavens to prevent such a revelations.
LOL
An American, not US subject.
"They lie even when they tell the truth."
Obama is probably confused as to why a presidential mandate didn't stop the spread of ebola.
Ebola crossed the line.
Did she go to the browns game? What was she doing in Cleveland?
So who amoungst us here on ZeroHedge did not see this clusterfuck comming?
I had noticed lasvegasdave has returned to call us all idiots and let us know the .gov has everything under control. Funny because a few months ago on a thread he made his grand announcement about how stupid everyone was on this site and he was never coming back.... Now the idiot government troll liberal has returned to set us all straight once and for all.
ALL HEALTH CARE workers in contact with DUNCAN should be quaranteened. This is Bull shit>>>>
Thats 132 people who should immediately meet with their lawyers. Then to the nearest law school for a 2nd opinion. Then over to ACORN for sanctuary.
A 'thank you' visit to their congress person with lots of hugging and close contact would be great also!
I think pretty much all Congressmen have offices in their Districts, and most folks could simply drive over there and have a little face-to-face talk with the people in the office.
Maybe even a run for the border. I'd rather face-off against MS-13 than deal with the Fedcoats armed with Ebola.
Maybe even a run for the border. I'd rather face-off against MS-13 than deal with the Fedcoats armed with Ebola.
What about health insurance companies? Wonder if Buffet is sweating?
Ebola will surely ravage the porn industry. Full body protective suits, masks, hoods and 8 ply condoms...no way!
Aww, how will the SEC workers whack off to midget tranny porn now? It's not the same thing when you can't see the kinky red heels and tasseled undergarments.
Ebola Does Dallas. :-)
I say good on that, it will limit certain populations profiting off of young goy girls being degraded by packs of thugs for their profit.
pods
amateur webcam girls ftw. guaranteed ebola free.
The kink evolves.
There was a guy caught two days ago fornicating with a stuffed animal in Walmart. I don't know if he used a condom or not.
Tsk tsk. Unprotected sex. Lord knows what that "animal" was stuffed with, well, besides that.
WTF is wrong with people?
Don't they know punkin's are in season?
My pumpkins failed this year. They died at the stem before they could ripen up. Real bummer. No punkin secks for me!!!
Pssst, cute nicknames...
Meh, it'll be somebody's kink.
Well it's on...There you go the transmission has begun and the CDC with their little swat teams will be overwhealmed within 2 weeks. Hospital workers will refuse to show up for work and the whole pandemic will pick up speed . Total panic and Chaos will ensue and the Economy will crash because nobody will go about everyday life as they did... If you haven't prepared yet, do so immediatly. The next headlines when it hits Miami, NY, and LA will be the black swan. The planes keep flying in and it's sure to spread all over the US because our Government didn't make the proper decisions to stop people from the affected areas from coming in with the virus. Thomas Duncan was the tip of the iceberg...Imagine what's going to happen to WTI when all the planes are grounded in the next 6 weeks? It's on, no turning back now
Optimist.
Supply lines fail.
^^THIS^^
Yeah, it doesn't even matter if this is a false flag. If that's the public perception, and truckers stop driving foodstuffs around the country, well... ebola or not, f'ed.
Uncle 'FEMA-camp' Sam to the RESCUE. An MRAP will be stopping by, the coffee and donuts are delish.
Oi. V.
Your cheery assessment is probably closer to the truth than what most people are willing to admit. Is the cull is under way??? I infer that Ebola in America is deliberate because government policy has invited the disease to become wild amongst us. I guess the opportunistic parasites will only have enough hazmat suits and vaccine for themselves, the rest of us are fucked. Some important addresses to remember for Ebola quarantine centres are located throughout the states; 200 West Street, New York, NY 1028 -/ 1735 Market Street,26th Floor, Philadelphia, PA 19103 -/ 555 California Street, 45th Floor San Francisco, CA 94104 -/ 101 Constitution Avenue, N.W., Suite 1000 East, Washington D.C. 20001.
If you like your hope & change...
it's funny you should say that healthcare workers will quit, because a couple of years ago obama signed an executive order giving the executive the authority to force employees in healthcare, energy, etc., sectors to work without pay.
All very Constitutional, of course. I'd need to take a closer look at the enforcement mechanism. I've got a few enforcement mechanisms myself. All of them shoot freedom.
woopsie
So friggin NSA cannot cross match and find these people from their phone and internet data bases?
Of course they can. It's just much more fun to ferret out those naughty selfies and homemade sex tapes.
They don't have their names and telephone numbers already?
An intentional act of terrorism by this administration. Never should have let anyone with the virus set foot on US soil.
infinitesimally small chance my ass........
On the other hand, if you try to bring in a plant, fruit or pet from another country, you get ass raped by customs. But those infected with ebola are welcomed with open arms!
Welcome to America! The hospital is this way! be sure to let them know you are NOT a citizen, you'll be put first in line and given all the care citizens can't afford.
9/11 was an intentional act of terrorism by the administration. Why should anyone be surprised by this one?
Who benefits? Follow the money!
Let me guess ...
Israel has closed all their borders ...
I recommend you panic now and get the fuck out of the country while you still can.