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CDC Demands 132 Passengers That Flew With 2nd Ebola Patient Report For Testing
But, but, but they said it wasn't contagious unless you came into contact with bodily fluids. According to the CDC, the 2nd health-care worker infected with Ebola traveled on Frontier Flight 1143 from Cleveland to Dallas on October 13th and are asking all 132 passengers on the flight to get tested. One question... what about the thousands of people that those 132 passengers came in contact with in the last 2 days?
- NEW TEXAS EBOLA PATIENT FLEW DOMESTICALLY NIGHT BEFORE FEVER APPEARED -- CDC
Via Bloomberg,
Second health-care worker with Ebola traveled on Frontier flight 1143 from Cleveland to Dallas on Oct. 13, CDC says in e-mailed statement.
CDC asking 132 passengers on flight to call 1-800-CDC-INFO, plan to begin interviewing passengers about flight, monitoring those who need it
Health-care worker exhibited no signs, symptoms of illness while on flight, according to crew
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Frontier Airlines Statement
“At approximately 1:00 a.m. MT on October 15, Frontier was notified by the CDC that a customer traveling on Frontier Airlines flight 1143 Cleveland to Dallas/Fort Worth on Oct. 13 has since tested positive for the Ebola virus. The flight landed in Dallas/Fort Worth at 8:16 p.m. local and remained overnight at the airport having completed its flying for the day at which point the aircraft received a thorough cleaning per our normal procedures which is consistent with CDC guidelines prior to returning to service the next day. It was also cleaned again in Cleveland last night. Previously the customer had traveled from Dallas Fort Worth to Cleveland on Frontier flight 1142 on October 10.
Customer exhibited no symptoms or sign of illness while on flight 1143, according to the crew. Frontier responded immediately upon notification from the CDC by removing the aircraft from service and is working closely with CDC to identify and contact customers who may traveled on flight 1143.
Customers who may have traveled on either flight should contact CDC at 1 800 CDC-INFO.
The safety and security of our customers and employees is our primary concern. Frontier will continue to work closely with CDC and other governmental agencies to ensure proper protocols and procedures are being followed.”
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As we warned before - coming to an airplane near you soon...
US Airways Flight 850 from Philadelphia to Punta Cana - October 8th 2014
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Nowhere to run, [Ebola] nowhere to hide
Got nowhere to run, [Ebola] nowhere to hide
It's not love, I'm running from
It's the stomach aches, I know will come
'Cause I know, you're no good for me
But you've become a part of me
if it gets real countries like Japan will probably do the sensible thing so you could run there - if you look Japanese anyway - maybe not such a good idea otherwise.
(seeing as xenophobia probably evolved for precisely this sort of reason)
I know I'd feel a special glow when I joined the folks there. I could have a career in a different kind of "containment" field.
And here it comes. Du dum du dum dum
Here comes the night. Du dum du dum dum
Here comes the night. Du dum du dum dum
Whoa oa oa oa oh yeah. :-)
Oh hell no. I hear there's a vicious easter egg in the last reel.
Just waiting for the bottom.
correct. if your going to do something then do it now. prices and availability are optimal now.
Holy Fucko Batman, the levels of incompetency are titanic and epic....
u too excitable, it's just .gov operating normally.
Will he get fired yet? Fuckin' CDC Stop contacts from fucking flying already!
That's not up to them. That's Homeland Security (sic).
Because proceeding with an abundance of caution is a bad approach?
Expect the TSA via the CDC to offer pre checks for Ebola to be handled in the same TSA Precheck lines at airports.
People are going to clammer to give up their freedoms
I's jest needs to check inside yo a**hole.
When they fire Frieden, and jail that evil wanna-be (and maybe actual) murderess Nancy Snyderman, I will believe that our government cares about protecting citizens from Ebola.
Guess someone want to cause Frontier to collapse. The new economic warfare tool...claim Ebola exposure on your competitors product. Guess Ill skip chocolate. What will all the kids eat for Hallowe...... Wait a minute!!!
Dog gone ... I'm forking out the extra $35 bucks next time I fly to upgrade to the "Ebola Free" section.
[PS: WHO in their right mind is going to fly, take a cruise or even go to the crowded mall unless it's vital??]
It costs more than $35 extra to fly in the "Ebola Free" Gulfstream with the billionaires.
Frontier, Imma let you finish, but Carnival Cruise lines had the communicable disease while travelling gig down first.
"Ebola Free Zones"...brilliant!!! Print that out and have it delivered via Golf Cart One.
Old men sitting in dark rooms in DC, smoking cigars and whispering "yeeesssssss....Ebola solves everything....."
Makes you think that maybe there is a vaccine for this.....just not widely available to the public......
Their gonna be standing with their DA DA getting what's coming after their flesh life.
"How I learned to stop worrying and love the ebola"... where's stanley kubrick when you need him... dead.
Hospitals and health-care companies in the USA are now owned by Big Medical Corporations, which are owned by whoever buys their stock on Wall Street, and since only 1/3 of the investment money floating around in the world comes from North America, I can imagine that Big Medical Corporations are run with less concern about what happens to Americans than about what profits are generated. The same situation that has made Americans pay twice as much for health care as citizens of most of the "developed world", and that has kept nurses chronically underpaid, now shows its difficulty dealing with a genuine health emergency until - presumably - the end of the financial quarter and payment of quarterly dividends and bonuses. (Promised the wife a new Rolls for Christmas). Perhaps we will see now whether the hospitals in the "socialist" countries of Sweden, Denmark, Norway, and yes even, Russia, do better. Ebola is a test which has begun, and the clock, as they say, is ticking.
Everybody calm down, and wash your hands. CDC
But, but, I just bought my Thanksgiving and Christmas plane tickets!
132 people, making an average of three contacts per days for the last two days, that's already 1200 potential contacts to trace...
...and they tell two friends, and THEY tell two friends, and so on, and so on...
We are with the Blue Man group, care to join us?
And TPTB sit back and laugh hysterically.
As heard at a popular buffet restaurant: "You're gonna need a bigger sneeze guard!"
Would any of those 132 tell the CDC to go fuck themselves? It's over dudes. You blew it.
Ebola viruses speaking: "Human bitchez are easy..."
Ebola: the great equalizer
Yes, if the 0.01% don't want to catch it, they will have to do everything themselves.
Almost seems like some ones got it in for Texas..........
God.
"Well, not only..."
Tonight on Showtime, midnight: "Hot Nurses Of Ebola"
I've already got my tissues and lotion out!
'Hot' as in 'body temp of 105 degrees'.
Might be wise to avoid shooting any anal scenes for that one...
Anti-viral tissues? Just to be safe.
New reports suggest that the Ebola patient fell asleep and dreweled on the seat and pillow that the flight attendant picked up.
And the next person in that seat probably did touch the arm rest that her sweaty hands had touched already.
These same reports suggest that the styrofoam cup that the Ebola patient put thier lips to and drank from, and then was handled by another flight attendant.
This is why rich people fly in their own corporate jets.
(For example - sorry to add this but - the current Governor of Florida, who was previously the CEO of a Big Medical Corporation.)
Link or it didn't happen.
jesting
ah sorry
Riddle me this bat bitchez??? What about the people in the terminal, or the people in the bathroom, or the vendor she bought lunch from, or the atm machine she took money out of, or the people on the escalator brushing her in a hurry to catch their flight to LA? What about those people? The list is endless and there is no way you can possibly quarantine everybody who may have contracted the virus from her...Absolutely no fricken way...
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I'm sitting here now thinking if I have had contact with anyone that has travelled through ATL in the last 3 days.....next up, my plans to limit the people I contact for another day or so, and if things get worse, activating the BOP for a week or so....
SOROS/Gates must be feasting on young children now celebrating with their masters! Son of a BITCH!
I posted before and I will say again, Friedan and these CDC folks do not talk like medical people. They talk in platitudes and certainties and not like medical people who will talk in probabilities and differentiate between what they know and what they think and what they think they know. I attended an immunology lecture last night on peanut allergy exposures and the level of dangers from someone highly sensitive. Microscopic particles were discussed on everything from peanut dust to residue on wooden tables versus granite tops. Then the flip side was what level of exposure causes a reaction.
As I am sitting in the lecture I am thinking about ebola and how there is very little known about these sorts of things. I think most of what political hack Friedan tells us is conjecture and wishful thinking. He should be saying things more along the lines, "It seems to be necessary to have direct contact with an infected person...but we are not 100% sure." and "A person seems to shed contagious level virus within 24 hours of having a fever as the first syptom." and "The virus appears to live outside the body for X amount of time in some aqueous environment."
We should have also seen before and after testing of the apartment to see if there was live virus before the clean up crew went in and then after to see if the cleaning methods worked (presuming live virus was present). If live virus was detected they should have been checking other vectors to see if insects were carrying it, everything from common bed bugs to mosquitos in the area. Was there a family pet? There is evidence that dogs that like to lick your kids faces can carry it. This is what real scientists do. It is not what political hacks do.
Even in hospitals there are nosocomial infections that get past all the sterilization procedures and equipment. It is quite common, actually, probably about 3-5% nationally. So, given a relatively new virus with minimal testing you overprepare and treat it as the highest possible level threat.
What bothers me about testing all the passengers on the plane is that they are A. Admitting it might be airborne, or B. Admitting they do not know exactly when someone becomes contagious, and C. Admitting they are not so sure how it is spread. Precisely the points I make in my first paragraph.
So, today I expect another TV appearance and some extra time on the golf course as the first reaction from our fearless leader.
Great points ! Paging MIFFED for additional analysis !!!
If you haven't noticed...she has left the building....always pay attention to the cues.
Here's my theory and it's only that. They took a urine sample upon admission and tested it for Ebola. Didn't like the results.
You know it's hard out there for a pimp. When all the rent and the gas monny spent.
When Obama was reelected, the full force of his campaign was knocking down his administration’s image of lack of control from Afghanistan to Iraq and to the IRS.
This appearance of lack of control is a huge danger to the Democrats in the mid-term elections. And the CDC director had his instructions: We can handle whatever comes, we are in control. This mishap was not our fault.
But it backfired because the country literally became ballistic when the CDC, to deflect responsibility, blamed the victim and the hospital staff for not following “protocol” and with each succeeding press conference, the credibility of the CDC (and the Obama administration) continues to decline.
And the reason is they are pretending they have the situation under control and they don’t. And the public knows it.
Frankly, I’ve never seen the country turn on the DC bureaucracy like this.
Dumb Government reporting to Dumb people ...
They say what they're paid to say.
so THIS is what all those FEMA camps and black boxes have been for all along.........
And the revisons of executive orders by Obama 6 months ago. Connect the dots folks and you can get a fairly clear picture of your true enemy.
what about the flight from Dallas to Cleveland????
Patient wasn't showing signs of illness yet (according to crew).
Like they'd have fucking noticed if a passenger had the goddamn sniffles or a mild fever...!?!?
Soon the airlines will be pleading that they end travel from the afflicted regions.
Likely it will be ineffective and done to manage perception.
...and 'afflicted regions' may well include Dallas and Cleveland.
How did the health-care worker get from Dallas to Cleveland?
Majic. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."
CDC needs to be immediately disbanded and the salaries paid out to their staff turned in. Lots of firms in India or China could handle this level of incompetence for a fraction of the price.
cue (don't fear) The Reaper. Blue Oyster Cult.
Doubled...oops
More appropriate BOC lyric: "History shows again and again how Nature points out the folly of man."
Yeah, but thats from BOC "Godzilla", not "Don't fear the Reaper"
What about everyone who sat in that seat or the two next to it for the next two days? Exponential growth works for other things besides .gov debt.
How did she get to Cleveland when she was working in Dallas....just visiting friends after taking care of an Ebola Patient that died...needed some good BBQ to wash down the Ebola with...stupid the Hospital let her go...
So now we have the busiest air travel week of the year approaching with the American Thanksgiving. Couple that with common cold and the beginning of flu season and that is one holiday I would want to stay at home. Airports will be packed and paranoia will be at a peak.
What about the people who "cleaned" this aircraft (twice) using the usual protocol with no extra protection? Are they being monitored as well? Or are they still on the job, climibing into other planes to do their job while possibly taking some traces of Ebola with them to be redistributed among god only knows how many other aircraft?
Merrily closing one door after the other just after the horses get loose. This is a sick (pun unintended ) joke.
Amber Joy Vinson 29 Akron OH, probably went home to see family for Columbus Day weekend.
What did she do for 3 days in Ohio?
How in the fuckall weren't the HCWs isolated following treatment? Particularily given the revelations about the conditions in which they were operating? Someone literally needs to hang for this.
Or else what???
I agree, least she coulda done is stop by Chicago, Washington, or New York, take in a movie or some sushi.
Did the passenger next to here touch the same arm rest that she did? - You betcha.
What about the bathroom? Did she go to the bathroom? It is a 3 hour flight. Did she sit on the seat? Touch the latch inside and outside the bathroom? Touch the faucet? - Most likely.
Did she sneeze or cough while on the plane? - Probable
Did the airline bagage attendant touch the suitcase handle just after she did? - You betcha
TSA groping her? God I hope so on that one. - possible
What abou the stupid trays you put your shoes in that are reused in circulation? - You betcha
I could go on.
And someone dumped the lav on that aircraft. Do you have any idea how often there are lav spills on the tarmac? Often enough that there's a special vacuum truck designed to clean it up.
OH shit.
-pun intend.
Blue ice dumped from the plane while in flight?
"TSA groping her? God I hope so on that one. - possible"
And the next few hundred that get groped by that TSA employee?
How often do they change their gloves? (The gloves are mostly to give the TSA employee a sense of protection. Fuck the traveling public.)
So there were more than 70 nurses that looked after Duncan.
Today their representatives said:
* Glove openings were not taped shut on protective suits, exposing wrists and hands to exposure
* Protective clothing did not cover necks, exposing skin between the collar and the bottom of the face shield
* To cover their necks, nurses were told to use tape that does not block the virus
* Some supervisors told nurses that face masks were not required at all when caring for Duncan
If this is true, then it's way beyond ignorance or stupidity, it's attempted murder.
Things are going to get far worse if these claims are true. Every single one of them should be in quarantine NOW.
Attempted Murder by Ebola = Attempted Genocide
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/10/14/Nurses-Union-Duncan-Not...
When I was an ER nurses, the hosptial practiced "just in time" cost control supplies, keeping the lowest inventory possible of basic items. Often we had to borrow IV solutions from paramedics to get us through the night. We were a Level 2 trauma center.
This is all about incompetence, big business, profits and crony government morons running things. They are educated way beyond their intelligence.
The hospitals have cut back hiring the well trained nurses, who understand the principles of contamination. They are being replaced by "techs" who don't have even the basic biology training to know why protocols are put into place, taking short cuts whenever possible because of the work load.
I'm betting there's a new head at the CDC by January 1, maybe even December 1.
USAMRIID will probably take over soon. CDC director will just be an even wrose puppet than he already is at that point.
I don't think people understand how thin the red line is at this point.
The continuity of gov appartus is quite real, Alex Jones aside. How many cases would it take before that plan is put into action and the MIC starts running that Cabinet level meeting?
Would we even know?
We wouldn't know.
They know far more about how this is spreading than we know right now. Although, they are probably learning by the minute.
As the president is canceling plans to talk about this, USAMRIID is probably taking over as we speak.
The MIC has already been running the Government
at least since the assassination of JFK.
.."I'm betting there's a new head at the CDC by January 1, maybe even December 1"..
..plenty of room under the bus, how about Sebilus? she's got a background in medicine..
I have the sniffles.
Is your ass bleeding?
So, long tampons then?
Hopefully TXDot will close I-45 south to Houston soon....
Its a shame to have to say that.....would have been so much more responsible to say: "Today I'm going to use my pen and my phone to stop all incoming flights from the continent of Africa. Let me be clear. "
Marine General Kelly of US Southern Command
recently warned that IF Ebola epidemic spread to Central America
Everyone in Central America would quickly (illegally) migrate North to the USA Open Borders
with or without Ebola.
One of the oldest simulations that many first year computer science programmers learn to model and program is disease spread. When I taught it many years ago one of the best math series to use in the disease spread model was the Fibonacci sequence of 0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,34,55,89,144,… We are now at the second Ebola victim, one (1), in the Fibonacci sequence of this series. What I remember from the written discussion of this model is if you reach five (5) Ebola victims in the series watch out…
You forgot 21
Dang I missed that.
What are the odds that the higher ups at the CDC are there not because of their integrity and competency, but rather their political ideology?
I heard it at ZH first. "Someone should be prosecuted for this."
The one thing about Ebola that is better than other infections is that it cannot be transmitted until the infected person is showing symptoms.
In this article they ask what about the thousands of people the 137 passengers came in contact with since the flight.
Those people are not at risk unless by some bizarre turn of events, the 137 passengers had the patient's infected bodily fluids on them and other people came into direct contact with those bodily fluids.
The bodily fluids of the 137 cannot transmit the disease until they show symptoms which typically takes anywhere from 6 to 21 days.
This is still insane, but let's keep the information accurate.
Are you believing what CDC says (need contact with bodily fluids) or what they are doing (testing anyone with even casual contact)?
Are you believing what CDC says (6-21 day period before symptoms) or what they actually say (95% are within the 6-21 day window -- meaning that 1 in 20 Ebola patients is OUTSIDE the CDC timeline!)
Are you believing what CDC says (our protocols are fool-proof) or what they actually do (which is now re-evaluate the protocols)
Are you believing what CDC said (Ebola is not a threat in the US) or what they actually do (assemble crash teams to go to any hospital with an Ebola patient).
nature does all sorts of things that its not supposed to do. in a sense "ebola" is an amorphouse entity. every time it replicates it tries many new variations of itself. i think it even combines with other viruses in the host. i don't know unwaveringly what it can and can't do. i do know that quarantine has stopped it in the past.
Rabbit, you left out 21.
What's the difference between f$&king Lindsay Lohan and f$&king a hot Philippine nurse with Ebola?
none, because they are both going to die soon?
The nurse is hotter and more likely to make it to 30.
Ha! ABC News: President Obola "postponing campaign fundraising trip, to convene his cabinet on response to ebola."
I fear it's too little, too late.
TIMBERRRRRRR.......he we go yo
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/DJIA?siteid=bnbh
Michelle, we locked some folks up concentration camp style, cause y'know we have those eh Casket liners in Georgia that folks are just fixin to fill up.
Yes we can, and we did, infect some folks, because the polls explained initially that it would be bad PR for the Obola to to shut down flights because as we all know this shit aint "airborne", so that would be bad PR to shut the borders man, and the Obola dont do bad PR for no one, no way, no how, cause that shit cuts into my golf game man
When do they start wondering if it's safe to have the elections? Maybe they should cancel them....for our own good, of course.
Elections in Liberia were canceled just this past week. Don't think Obama missed that.
"Don't think Obama missed that."
Right you are!
dupe.
Cancel elections?
http://youtu.be/plWnm7UpsXk
Center for Disease Redistribution.
...
so what company makes/will make the vaccine? need to buy some stawks...
Monsanto will feed us GMO shit that inoculates against everything. Thank God for Monsanto and the Department of Agriculture that empowers them.
It's the mother of all clusterfucks.
In the Klaus Kinski, Werner Herzog movie "Cobra Verde", Kinski's character goes to Africa to buy slaves to ship to Brazil. Someone asks him "what will become of them"? Kinski's character answers "they will become our murderers".
So is Liberia the country the USA helped create in a dream of sending ex-slaves back to Africa? And now, perhaps, a descendant of one of them has come back, and may have spread a disease in the USA, and thus become "our murderer", so that, after all these years, perhaps Kinski's character will finally be right.
I said it before, i'll say it again:
You all heard of Montezuma's revenge? Well dat ain't sh1t.
This here's Meremba's revenge. Sleep tight.
Love Werner Herzog. See "Little Johnny Needs To Fly", it is an incredible documentary.
Will do. Thanks.
(P.S. Little Dieter Needs to Fly? Anyway, close enough: found it.)
A demand is a request not an order
They don't have jurisdiction to order anything
So they are bluffing to see how many people will obey
And if the airlines truly believe
"The safety and security of our customers and employees is our primary concern. Frontier will continue to work closely with CDC and other governmental agencies to ensure proper protocols and procedures are being followed.”
Then why do they continue to fail to adequately screen their passengers prior to boarding when they know that the government agencies responsible have been continually willfully negligent in their duties through this event?
This quoted claim does not alleviate airlines of their liability. If Ebola is as mysterious and undetectable as they appear to imply and they can't screen people effectively then they need to shut down. This would prove their quoted claim above.
Right. Thanks for that reminder. Lawyers sometimes make "demands" at events such as City Commission rezoning hearings, but City Commissions often reject those demands.
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Why u no fly guy?
MOTHERFUCKERS! PAGING DR. SANJAY HOOPLA AT CNN STAT!!!!!!!
"...what about the thousands of people that those 132 passengers came in contact with in the last 2 days?"
What about them indeed? And what about the thousands that those 132 came in contact with since then? And on and on.
The handling of this has been ham-handed and unprofessional at best, criminal at worst.
That's what happens when government agencies make stupid decisions. When is that? When they make decisions.
Everyone whose name has been connected with denials, obfuscations, and other uninformed comments about ebola should resign of be forced to resign... and without benefits, please, as the looming costs for "fixing" this precludes paying benefits to bozos.
@Reuters: Obama postpones political trip on Wednesday to convene White House meeting about Ebola outbreak
11:12am – 15 Oct 14
All is well!
The SHTF when the first 'non-healthcare worker'' catches Ebola. At that point Ebola is "on the loose" and true panic sets in.
Next Monday @ 4:00PM.
It's wednesday. I'll take the under.
Don't forget they've already got the nurse's boyfriend in quarantine.
Obama getting ready to announce the suspension of all air traffic between Cleveland and Dallas. There...that should do the trick...
I haven't been concerned before now about this medical mess, but then I read that President Ebola himself is cancelling a fundraiser to personally get involved. Now I'm really concerned. How much worse can it get? So long any remaining personal freedoms.
If Obama had a virus...
Everything Obama touches turns to shit. Him getting involved in the ebola mess ought to exacerbate the problem ten-fold. Heck of a job brownie!
Getting Obama in the loop on the Ebola scare will be as effective as asking George W to proofread a dictionary.
We are doomed.
Everything blacks touch turns to shit.
There, fixed it for ya. Obola is no different to any other AA drone appointed way beyond his competency level.
A lot of people suspect that the theatre is on fire. I think the CDC just yelled "FIRE !"
see it was a good idea to bring ebola patients to the west
I think the whole scenario is by design to panic the populace while the markets tank.
How many people have died in Africa? How many now die in auto crashes in this country? Hunker down, folks, the hobgoblins are everywhere, help us FEMA, save us Homeland Security, woe is me, woe is you, woe is everyfuckingbody.
I'll start worrying when the body count hits a thousand a week. Meanwhile, I'm driving my auto to travel while the parasitic government jacks everybody off and scares the lemmings over the cliffs.
Unfortunately, the front line decent people will die while the coiffed parasites in the $2,000 suits in DC will keep their honey holes greased.
I think in the US its about 30,000 a year in car accidents and 30,000 via suicide, I guess Ebola is not too much to worry about......yet.
Duncan was one man in one location. What about the other ebola carriers from west Africa that we don't know about.
I am finally understanding that the ensuing panic could torpedo consumer behavior.
The Other causes of Death do not have the potential to be increasing
Exponentially.
Can't wait until Homeland Security takes over from CDC and starts confiscating guns as part of the "National fight against Ebola"