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Second Ebola-Infected Nurse Identified, Was Symptomatic With 99.5 Degree Fever While Flying

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Just about an hour ago, the CDC's Tom Frieden held a press conference in which he tried to diffuse the CDC's incompetence for a allowing healthcare workers who cared for the now deceased "Index Patient" Thomas Eric Duncan, to board a plane. A worker, who as was reported earlier today, was confirmed sick with the deadly virus. Still, in order to defend his agency from accusations of gross incompetence, of which it clearly is guilty, Frieden said that...

  • NEW PATIENT HADN'T BEEN BLEEDING OR VOMITING BEFORE FLIGHT

... Although, he promptly pushed the ball of blame back in her court adding that:

  • NEW PATIENT KNOWINGLY EXPOSED TO EBOLA,SHOULDNT HAVE FLOWN

But what is worse, is that as the WaPo reports the nurse had a fever of 99.5 degrees Fahrenheit before boarding a passenger jet on Monday, a day before she reported symptoms of the virus and was tested, according to public health officials. "Even though there appeared to be little risk for the other people on that flight, she should not have traveled that way, Thomas Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said during a news conference Wednesday."

“She should not have flown on a commercial airline,” Frieden said.

The reason he said that is that since she was clearly symptomatic, she was also contagious. Which explains why the CDC is scrambling to uncover all those passengers who may have flowen with her. 

Furthermore, the nurse has now been identified: "The health-care worker was not identified by public health officials, but family members told Reuters and the Dallas Morning News that her name is Amber Vinson, a nurse at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital. She was part of a team that had cared for Thomas Eric Duncan, a Liberian man who flew to Texas and was diagnosed with Ebola last month, during his hospitalization in Dallas. Duncan died last week. Nina Pham, a nurse who also cared for Duncan, was diagnosed with Ebola on Sunday."

And where it gets simply ridiculous is that not only did the nurse fly once, she flied a second time, this time from Cleveland to Texas on Monday.

Vinson, who flew from Dallas to Cleveland on Friday, flew back to Texas on Monday, a day after Pham was diagnosed. She reported a fever on Tuesday and was isolated and tested for Ebola.

 

Still, the fact that she boarded a commercial flight raises the question of how much the other 50 health-care workers who entered Duncan’s room could have traveled or moved around in recent days. The CDC recommends controlled movement on private flights or vehicles for people who may have been exposed to Ebola, Frieden said.

Meanwhile, the panic to contain the possible spread of the airborne virus is full blown: as WFAA reports, "Frontier Airlines says the plane stayed at DFW International Airport overnight, and has since been cleaned. It traveled to Cleveland on Tuesday and was cleaned again. The airline says Vinson traveled to Ohio from Dallas-Fort Worth on Flight 1142 on Oct. 10.

"The safety and security of our customers and employees is our primary concern. Frontier will continue to work closely with CDC and other governmental agencies to ensure proper protocols and procedures are being followed," the airline said in a press release.

Some other details:

Wednesday morning, Mayor Mike Rawlings confirmed that Vinson lives alone without pets at The Green in the Village Apartments, in the 6000 block of Village Bend near Skillman, just north of Lovers Lane.

 

 

Police and Dallas Fire-Rescue teams were at the complex early Wednesday, cleaning common areas and knocking on doors, communicating with neighbors. Reverse 911 calls were sent out at 6:15 a.m. to people who live in the area.

 

"We rallied together and we decided that we needed to move quickly like we did Sunday morning," Mayor Rawlings said.

 

He added that the state has hired a company to come in Wednesday afternoon and clean Vinson's apartment and car.

 

Like Pham, Vinson had also been involved in caring for Thomas Eric Duncan, the Liberian man who died of Ebola one week ago at Presbyterian. More than 70 hospital employees had been involved in that effort and are still being monitored.

So despite the epic Snafu that Tom Frieden has managed to achieve, and we fully expect that airplane travel will see a substantial decline until the Ebola pandemic is indeed contained, we will give him props for telling one piece of the truth this weekend, when he said that "more Ebola cases are likely going to emerge." At least this time, he was telling the truth.

 

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Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:09 | 5336742 dumbStruck
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A new study by Charles Haas, PhD, a professor in Drexel's College of Engineering, suggests that 21 days might not be enough to completely prevent spread of Ebola.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141015112323.htm

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:23 | 5336855 The Phallic Crusader
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viral shedding may well take place before symptoms show up for all we know.

For her to take 2 flights, after caring for a ebola patient who had died, after anothe rnurse was known to have become infected - was batshit crazy and irresponsible - even in the absence of symptoms, within the known incubation period.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:29 | 5336908 Rob Jones
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The CDC should have insisted on daily ebola tests for all the Dallas staff that had contact with Duncan. This is massive negligence and at the root of it is the CDC's contention that ebola is scary, but really no big deal.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:34 | 5336954 Tenshin Headache
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Then there's these folks. Who knows their infective status in the first 3 weeks.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1906073/

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:29 | 5336889 Dingleberry
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A 99.5 degree temp won't trigger any alarm bells.

AT ALL.

Still trust the CDC and it's postulation on how this malady is not transmitted easily? 

The only thing that is remotely effective is quarantine, but that ship appears to have sailed in the name of political correctness.  

Oh well. You voted for this idiocy. 

Got popcorn?

 

Full disclosure:

Long hazmat suits & crematoriums.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:29 | 5336900 are we there yet
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Note to myself;
If a passenger sitting next to me has projectile diarrhea, or projectile vomiting. I am going to ask a stewardess for a new seat.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:30 | 5336913 MrButtoMcFarty
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Any big surprise it was a negro?

 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:48 | 5337074 besnook
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is it any wonder the head of the cdc is a white jew?the dumbest link in the chain?

sounds just as stupid, doesn't it? or does it to you?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:34 | 5336949 MrButtoMcFarty
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IF this cunt lives....she should die.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:49 | 5337077 Penniless Spectator
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What happened to the racism policy so prominently displayed at the bottom of the page. Why the fuck spread your racist shit here? Banned from GLP?? Just about given up on this site.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:54 | 5337108 besnook
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the beauty of this site is these guys are free to roam so the rest of us can see the way they think. it makes them easily identifiable in public.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:21 | 5337267 MrButtoMcFarty
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Pull my finger little man.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:26 | 5337697 83_vf_1100_c
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You could just get over it. People have all sorts of farked up sensitivities and racism is only one. I get a bit tired of the Jew bashing but until now felt no need to voice it. I pulled my buched up panties out of my asscrack and moved on along.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:39 | 5336984 dizzyfingers
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Excuse me, proofreaders desperately needed -- "she flied". Spellcheck even if you can't edit.

"And where it gets simply ridiculous is that not only did the nurse fly once, she flied a second time, this time from Cleveland to Texas on Monday. "

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:05 | 5337549 Tenshin Headache
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Made me smile when I read it. It was a time when I needed to smile about something.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:43 | 5337027 Last of the Mid...
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I can work up a 99.5 temp just farting, I don't see where she did anything wrong. Now as for Obola and the CDC head, that's another matter. Was just wondering how some of these pharmaceutical companies worked up a vaccine to try so quickly and did it have anything to do with patients on American soil. How much blood was left in the guy who died in Dallas? These are things I would like to know.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:44 | 5337028 Last of the Mid...
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She flew up there and flied back.

 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:09 | 5337207 a common man
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I think she flied up there and reflied back!

 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:44 | 5337041 MOB666
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was this duncan guy an American? or from Liberia? why does this change alot between the news outlets?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:45 | 5337050 tumblemore
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I'm not saying it's 100% the nurse wasn't dumb and definitely didn't have a temperature etc. I'm just saying the "evidence" from the WaPo is:

 

"The second health-care worker diagnosed with Ebola had a fever of 99.5 degrees Fahrenheit before boarding a passenger jet on Monday, a day before she reported symptoms of the virus and was tested, according to public health officials."

 

If they knew she had a temperature *before* then that implies someone tested her so... why wasn't she isolated?

 

That's what I mean by do the people blaming the nurses benefit from blaming the nurses. If they knew she had a temp why was she let out of the hospital?

 

Or maybe it's a BS cover story in which case which "public health officials" gave WaPo the story: Frieden's press secretary?


Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:57 | 5337495 gwar5
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A 99.5 temp isn't much, might not even feel anything. Temperature of 101.5 is considered a fever.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:47 | 5337060 bgilliam83
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Just wait until she dies.  This will start the race war

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:59 | 5337145 MsCreant
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I think that is why they are taking her to Atlanta for top shelf treatment. Open those fucking wallets. 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:47 | 5337065 Last of the Mid...
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I think he was American when it was first reported in order to draw away some of the criticism of not limiting flights out of Africa. Other than that he was Liberian. "Out of Africa II" the NEW movie, will be great.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:49 | 5337079 Tachyon5321
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What Obama should do right now is have John Kerry give another urgent global warming speech. 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:50 | 5337081 bgilliam83
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Turnip for what?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:54 | 5337106 Jack Burton
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The last few days has proven that all the Government and CDC talk was bullshit. Sorry, but they dropped the ball. YET, they still call for Open Airline flights to and from Ebola country. NEED I SAY MORE?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:57 | 5337132 besnook
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the most amazing thing is the number of people flying in and out of these areas is small enough to track rather easily but, listening to media reports, there is nothing in place that tracks the path of these people through the transportation system because they report how difficult it is to track these people, like they still write tickets with pens.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:12 | 5337946 Withdrawn Sanction
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"The last few days has proven that all the Government and CDC talk was bullshit."

And that might be the only upside to this entire fiasco.  It may be the push ordinary citizens need to realize their government is full of feckless liars and incompetents, rather than the unselfish do-gooders portrayed in 8th grade Civics class.

Maybe that's why the WH Press Corps (for them) kept after Josh Earnest (no, really, that's his name) at today's presser.  Recall the open mike last week in the WH press room and the reporters who were exchanging gallows humor about Obola.  These guys and gals are concerned and getting more so...for themselves of course, but concerned just the same.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:55 | 5337112 Oldballplayer
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Why do I keep hearing "Dont Fear the Reaper" in my head.  And some fat fuck kids is loading up on PayDays.

 

Baby can you dig your man....he's a righteous man!

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:49 | 5338098 Bemused Observer
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Well, if I survive, I ain't going to Boulder or Vegas. If Good and Evil need me for their little Battle they can just drag their asses to Bumfuck, PA and have it here.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:58 | 5337133 Barnaby
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They Might Be Giants Ana Ng:

Eighty dolls yelling "Small girl after all"
Who was at the Dupont Pavilion?
Why was the bench still warm? Who had been there?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 16:58 | 5337138 Ms No
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I am curious about this Russian vaccine deal.  If for the sake of argument, this Ebola strain is a bioweapon, certainly the Russians and Chinese would be aware, especially if it's been going on since the 70's.  So was Russia following them along and stealing samples of their proprietary virus?  Shame on them.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:08 | 5337198 tumblemore
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The Russians worked on Ebola as a bioweapon but gave it up because they didn't think it would be effective against standard quarantine measures. Obviously they wrongly assumed standard quarantine measures would be used.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:50 | 5337445 potato
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Yeah. The americans are particularly difficult to defeat because they don't read or adhere to field manuals. -- paraphrase from Soviet military doctrine

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:26 | 5337694 deflator
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 Instructions are only as good as the person who wrote them. I used to work for a company hanging doors and installing hardware. The boss wpuld get pissed if he caught anybody reading instructions.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:01 | 5337144 trader1
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best article written about ebola since the outbreak:

http://morecrows.wordpress.com/2014/10/08/ebola-ebola/

 

Thomas Eric Duncan died this morning.

I spend a lot of time in my writing hiatus sending emails about ebola. I continue to spend a lot of time reading emails- and papers, and datasets, and my own models- about Ebola. I submit to you that Ebola matters not only because it is a horrible tragedy for a cluster of countries in West Africa, and a smaller tragedy for a handful of families elsewhere in the world, but also because it represents the first big, fast-moving outbreak since computer modeling reached its current level. SARS was a good test case, and should be cited more often in public discussions of disease (instead of, say, Spanish Flu, which happened in a completely different public health universe) but in the end, it is Ebola that has permitted everyone with a pet theory about epidemic disease to trot out their assumptions and try to prove them right. Let’s talk about Ebola. Let’s talk about what Ebola means.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:58 | 5337500 One of We
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Good article.  Thanks for the link.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:10 | 5337190 Sorry_about_Dresden
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I had dinner with the head of the pediatric department of one of the largest teaching hospitals on the East coast. While my wife was using the powder room I asked this Doctor, an M.D. with a pHD in Chemical Engineering, the rational of flying people out of West Africa, known and unknown, to be infected with Ebola?

I was shocked with his lack of concern that these people, health care workers and travellers, who had been exposed then lied on the Airlines questionnaire saying they HAD NOT been in direct contact with persons infected with Ebola.

Transporting that deadly and highly contagious plague is the most irresponsible conduct, the worst risk management strategy and the stupidest idea.

They think they can contain this virus by packing infected people into airplanes and flying them to Nebraska and Texas?

They are incompetent idiots who are going to kill us all thinking they can contain this plague.

THEY KNOWINGLY FLY PEOPLE, INFECTED W/ EBOLA TO THE USA? WTF?

The doctors response was alarming and sent chills up my spine.

I have to fly in 2 days to see a concert and I am seriously considering the risk and I might just  forgo the $500 I spent on airline tickets and drive from Atlanta to Richmond to avoid being crammed into an airplane that, might or might not, have someone infected by Ebola sitting next to me.

That fucking Kaffir who falsified his questionnaire before flying from Liberia to Texas deserved to die. Don't waste any cure on him since he cared so little about everyone else's safety.

If we are lucky Ebola will rage in D.C. and Manhattan bringing G-d's vengeance upon the to big to jail! Let the hobbit, John McCain, be the first!  

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:27 | 5337306 trader1
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did you forget a /sarc tag?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:43 | 5337383 One Eyed Jack
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SAD; I have several free airline tickets banked and a massive frequent flier miles account. I have to fly regularly for my job and other requirements, I travel about 20-24 weeks or more a year.

In fact I flew into Austin Texas the day the Liberian was announced to have Ebola. To say the least the flight home was nerve wracking, I made my mind up then and there, I am not flying ever again.

So I closed out my Airline credit cards and I told them why I was doing it if they do not care about public safety and they want to continue to fly to west Africa sell the seat to an African.

With that said if I cannot drive there or walk there I do not need to go there. Job and economy be damned!

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:02 | 5337893 kumquatsunite
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This is my worry; They are throwing everything they've got at this virus, as they did with Duncan. The worry that I have is the use of dialysis. Dialysis is a very complicated procedure requiring very expensive equipment that is complex in its construction. Once near an ebola patient I would question Ever being able to clean a dialysis machine completely. As I have previously posted here in zerohedge, as much as I support the Red Cross and its humanitarian efforts, I do not give blood because when inquiring (I'm the kinda person who asks pesky questions) about the procedure and the sanitation of the instruments used, I was told the plastic tubing that the blood runs through is reused after being subjected to sanitation "procedures."

Here's the kicker, I had a friend who worked in a nuclear facility and one day (absolutely true story) he pushed the wrong button releasing a bunch of liquid into a "containment" area. It is unfortunate that we have become a society in which due to politically correct hiring (he was hired under a "quota" needing fulfilled) we have to become hyper-vigilent about protecting ourselves from those who tell us they know what is best for us. I applaud Fox's Bill O'Reilly for DEMANDING no flights from these areas be allowed into the US and the rescinding of any passports or dual citizenship passports that would allow entry, as well as any visas. This should include all student visas, of course.

The medical profession has become infused with low-level cretans who have been shunted into the profession in various categories as they have, for instance, been "rehabilitated" out of the drug programs. The AMA has demanded that not The Best, but that numerically equivalent numbers of non-whites be let into various levels of the medical school admissions. 

In the last couple of years, I have had a: Russian doc (woman who didn't seem to give a dam), Asian (who didn't seem to speak Any English but did seem to understand me), and a Latin doc (who seemed eminently hostile to me). So besides the lowering of the "brain" power needed to get into nursing and physician programs, we are also flooded with foreign docs. Good luck, everyone.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:07 | 5337193 dlfield
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Too bad she didn't fly Malaysian Airlines.  That would have been perfect.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:22 | 5337278 Karaio
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Met many born in Texas, the most fucked up limp guys in the USA. 

The rest of the world is their backyard. 

Believe me, they get Ebola and not cry. 

The guys are the rulers! 

hehe.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:23 | 5337286 robnume
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Yeah, it is the healthcare workers fault. I worked at Scripps ER/trauma center for years and I can tell you that the nurse, who knew she had the possibility of developing an infectious disease and chose to travel on a commercial airliner full of people, should be bitch-slapped and fired, if she lives. How fucking selfish can one person be? Fuck you, bitch and screw your wedding plans. That being said, exactly how are the other possibly exposed healthcare workers being "monitored?" If this dumb bunny can just walk onto a plane, how are we supposed to trust that anyone at that shithole of a hospital in Texass knows where these 76 "healthcare" workers are or have been? It's clear that Obombya wants Ebola here. WTF?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:53 | 5338113 mariner22
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CNN is reporting that the second nurse called the CDC before traveling about the low grade elevated temperature and they told her she could fly.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:53 | 5338114 mariner22
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CNN is reporting that the second nurse called the CDC before traveling about the low grade elevated temperature and they told her she could fly.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:24 | 5337289 One Eyed Jack
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World Health Organization director "Ebola seems to be spreading in a manner incongruent with historical data" ... Yeah it is airborne.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:25 | 5337290 bytebank
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The problem is that we are now looking at compunding infection rate.

One patient infected two nurses so far. How many will they infect?

If they infect at least two each we will have four more with each of them infecting two each. You do the math. The problem is that once the cat is out of the bag it will be next to impossible to contain especially with people traveling.

Hospitals will need to refuse Ebola patients in order to keep their staff healthy. 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:25 | 5337293 bytebank
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The problem is that we are now looking at compunding infection rate.

One patient infected two nurses so far. How many will they infect?

If they infect at least two each we will have four more with each of them infecting two each. You do the math. The problem is that once the cat is out of the bag it will be next to impossible to contain especially with people traveling.

Hospitals will need to refuse Ebola patients in order to keep their staff healthy. 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:29 | 5337319 One of We
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If this chick was sitting on the 50 at the Browns game Sunday would the CDC admit it?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:29 | 5337320 Inthemix96
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This isnt incompetence folks.

This is by design.

Is now the time you cunts shut down international travel from said infected places world wide, and at least try to contain said virus?

No?

Thought not.

This isnt criminal is it ZHers?  This could be construed as insane, for who though eh?

I dont like this one little bit.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:14 | 5337953 FredFlintstone
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Damn cunts!

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:29 | 5337322 Fix It Again Timmy
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This nurse should have had the sense to realize she was working in a make-shift BSL-4 lab without any of the necessary equipment; did not anyone point out to her that Duncan was an Ebola high-pressure fire hose squirting out billions of ebola viruses?  Did not anyone point it out that professionally trained BSL-4 technicians virtually breakout in a sweat when walking into  a BSL-4 containment area when wearing all the necessary safety gear?  Did not anyone show her pictures of elbola victims?  Sounds like she was knee-deep in Duncan's liquid shit and vomit, and then she flies to Cleveland?  Unfucking believable!!!!!! 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:30 | 5337325 BeerMe
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Don't worry the White House said it was just 'shortcomings.'  We have known for months that healthcare workers were at risk even with state of the art protections & precautions.  These countries should have been blocked off months ago.  Obola and CDC showing the incompetence of .gov

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:41 | 5337394 Steel Magnolia
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After six disastrous years, it is time to conclude that this administration is NOT incompetent. All of the scandals, felonies & misdemeanors are INTENTIONAL. Once the American people come to the conclusion that Obama & Co. are the enemy within, then we can start to figure out how to deal with this. It doesn't get any more dangerous than the outcome being death. Our very lives along with our children, grandchildren, families & friends are all under threat from our very own government. Time to forget race, a white Republican president would have already been forced to resign.

It has been one scandal after the other. This country is exhausted from being Alinskied. The Ebola outbreak seems to be the end game. You can bet Obama & his govt. cronies have all been given vaccines while we are being set up.

In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.

Franklin D. Roosevelt

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:01 | 5337509 Tenshin Headache
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With outbreaks of zoonotic viruses, "it" can and does happen by accident. The actual jump across species, that is.

What happens after that may be open to debate.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:35 | 5337353 Fix It Again Timmy
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Another point, you're in the hospital with a common ailment and they come around every day to draw blood, but they are NOT drawing daily blood samples from the 70+ healthworkers who were in proximity of patient zero?  WTF gives?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:39 | 5337366 robnume
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Exactly, bytebank. +100. Like I said yesterday, I've lived for 30 years hearing about viruses. My husband's a biochemist. Viruses mutate, it's their job. Is there anyone at the CDC who doesn't have their head up their ass?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:49 | 5337429 Gawd
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Why arn't the pilots refusing to fly the infected routes? Although, at this point, all routes could be infected. But, one has to start somewhere. Why arn't they refusing to fly the Africa routes?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:58 | 5337506 dizzyfingers
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"Why arn't the pilots refusing to fly the infected routes?"

Because it's $$$ and they're in a separate compartment with locked door and (?) separate air supply? Why worry?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:24 | 5337988 smacker
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Yeahbut .. that's not usually applicable on long haul routes where the crew changes for the return flight.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:10 | 5338207 Citxmech
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The pilots get the same air as everybody else (which is tapped from the compressor stages of the engines and then run through conditioners that cool the charge).  They have seperate environmental controls for temperature, but that's about it.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:05 | 5337562 MsCreant
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Maybe some of them are and you are NOT hearing about it...

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:43 | 5337783 Colonel Walter ...
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MsCreant,

Read you earlier link and was astonished to find out Emory already has their 3rd ebola patient getting treatment, that was brought in on 9/9. The person is almost healed, thank goodness, but I had not heard about this individual. It was in the last few paragraphs of the article and the Emory website confirms this. The person was flown in from West Africa and is anonymous for now.

Colonel

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:50 | 5337442 gwar5
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CDC: "He shouldn't have flown"

 

WTF?  So it's not OK to fly to America from Ebola countries!?  Exactly. So why are we letting them??

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 21:25 | 5338668 Everybodys All ...
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That is rather hypocritical isn't it? However, it's become so normal to hear this doublespeak bs from this administration and with a media who no longer makes it their task to analyze or demand tough questions be answered. Here we are.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:51 | 5337446 lowgee
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Hello all, first timer

Could this be Cloward and Piven strategy? (I thik I spelled it properly)

No better way to postpone elections or enforce marshall law than Ebola fears everywhere?

Just wondering.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:55 | 5337470 dizzyfingers
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lowgee Probably right on both. I thought of CP the other day too. I think martial law's a given. Connecticut already is all in.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:55 | 5338477 QQQBall
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I thik you did too

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 17:51 | 5337450 alfredthered
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I hate to be that overly critical asshole, but

"And where it gets simply ridiculous is that not only did the nurse fly once, she flied a second time, this time from Cleveland to Texas on Monday."

flied? Fucking shit.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:00 | 5337514 robertocarlos
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She flied

millions died.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 21:36 | 5338790 Tegrat
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LOL thats funny - i don't care who you are. Comments like this keep me coming back. LMAO.

 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:02 | 5337537 Volkodav
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Could have be prevented.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:03 | 5337538 observer007
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******** Ebola nightmare scenario**********

The nightmare scenario: a mutating Ebola that spreads… The Ebola virus circulating in West Africa is already different from previous strains.

Latest:

http://tersee.com/#!q=ebola&t=text

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:07 | 5337569 observer007
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Ebola: Countdown to catastrophe

 

The countdown is officially on. The UN has warned the world has just 60 days to get Ebola under control, or face an “unprecedented situation for which we don’t have a plan”.

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Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:19 | 5337609 Demdere
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This not a blame game.  This is real hard reality, and let's all focus on that.  We can always hang politicians, no need to hurry.

No to the criticism wrt Friedman 'blaming' the nurse for flying.  People are responsible for other people's safety.  You don't fuck with AIDS.  If there is any possibility you have been exposed to Ebola, you don't go to work with a fever, you don't go out in public with a fever, and you certainly don't travel with a fever.

We are not there yet, but if Ebola comes to a city near you, our gov won't be able to protect you.  You and your neighbors have to protect you.  Fortunately, it is pretty easy :

Every door for every business should have a thermometer outside.  Unless you can show that you have a normal temperature, you don't get through the door.  General rule : if you have a temperature, stay home.  If you violate the rule or allow your employees to do so, you are helping kill the people who caught Ebola from the guy came to work, whose boss let him come to work with a fever.

We have to have 'Ebola-free' zones.  If we don't establish those ef-zones and maintain them rigidly, Ebola never stops, we continue dying, and the gov keeps grabbing power.

We people have to stop this, and we have to do it with our social power and rigid rules about never going into public when you have a fever.  Check your temperature several times a day, go to ground if you have one immediately.

The CDC is a bureaucracy.  At least partly corrupt, note the Vioxx scandal, the lousy safety data for vaccines, ...  Possibly as bad as the FDA, but there isn't as much scrutiny for the CDC.  Maybe as bad as FEMA?

In any case, we can't depend on our gov, the TSA, the airline cartel, the medical cartel, the police, etc.  There aren't enough of them, even if they were really perfect.  We have t obelieve in the rules and be rude to people who don't get it.

 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:12 | 5337937 kumquatsunite
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Well, since there are 50,000 New Aids cases every year, all gay males (CDC numbers) and Fridien hasn't said "boo" to the gay community about that, you see how he feels about communicable diseases, don't cha? (PS...so apparently they do f#ck with Aids:)

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:42 | 5337752 tahoebumsmith
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This current situation we are facing is not something the CDC can project but something a really smart mathematician could probably give us a better forcast on. With the Reported cases nearly doubling every week in the Hot Zones of Africa it seems unlikely that this will not turn into a global pandemic. Once it hits the more densely populated areas like Mexico City, Hong Kong, Delhi, Tokyo ,Beijing and the major cities in America it's now a  problem. A REAL Fricken problem...  With the CDC totally fucking up here in America and not a peep out of WHO lately i'm realizing my worst nightmares might be unraveling right before my eyes. At this point I guess were all just Dreamers seeing how nobody really has a clue as to where this is going to end up. At the very least i'm happy to be a prepared Dreamer though in my self contained home with plenty of supplies to last up to a year if need be and I pity anyone who tries to take my future dreams away because it will be their loss and and nobodys gain...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4hr5eQ_hwk

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:45 | 5337767 MarsInScorpio
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Obama is guilty of misfeasance and malfeasance in office. He is a criminal.

We have reached the point where we tell the Black Racists who support him to go to He11. We tell the Hispanic Racists (In particular, La Raza), the Gay Mafia, the Obamabots, the Islamic jihadist front organizations (Muslim Brotherhood, et. al), the MSM, and the Hollywood celebrities, to do the same.

We show up at our congressional delegations' Town Halls - and their offices in their districts and if we have to - we sit in until the pressure can't be resisted.

If they can mobilize in Hong Kong - we can mobilize to save our lives, the lives of our children, grandchildren, extended family, and the rest of humanity in America.

This transcends politics - this is a genuine life or death crisis. Obama must be removed from office because he is insane - literally - with desire to import all the illegals he can get over the border. He is showing a reckless disregard for human life (the legal definition of 2nd Degree Murder), by opening the door to Death in America.

Obama must go. He is aiding and abetting mass homicide in America. If you are a Left Wing Looney Tunes Obama droid and can't grasp this concept, I'm sorry you are a mental midget.

His insane policies are responsible for the open invasion of illegals carrying not just this, but God knows what other diseases.

Black Racists, Hispanic Racists (especially the ultra-racist La Raza), Gay Mafia heterophobic hate-speakers, Islamic jihadist front organizations in America (Muslim Brotherhood, et. al), MSM propagandists, political hacks, air-for-brains cops, kiss-up military flag officers . . . it's over for Obama. Move out of the way, or watch society overwhelm you.

Get rid of him peacefully, or be prepared to see America erupt into a blazing fire of violence against *you* for trying to keep him around.
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Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:09 | 5337925 Demdere
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Just in case nobody has ever told you, your mind and judgment are not sound.  Your recommendations are not good.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:12 | 5337938 FredFlintstone
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Hmmm. he's getting a lot of green.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:10 | 5337926 kumquatsunite
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You saw the posting here at zero about the ten illegal kids that were just tested positive for tuberculosis. If you look up news on tuberculosis in the schools, you'll find lots of articles. All Mexican kids. That is just the facts. 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:43 | 5337774 morning
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There is an anonymous third patient at Emory since Sept 9

 

http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12654

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:45 | 5337799 Colonel Walter ...
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I just posted that above.

Who is this person that was brought in under cover of darkness? Must be a "special" someone...maybe a banker?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 21:10 | 5338568 phaedrus1952
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Interesting info,  Colonel. A few weeks back, a commenter posted a link with some dramatic claims concerning some DOD types affiliated with Tulane doing Ebola "research" in that area who were flown out of Africa on the QT.

Furthermore, the flying ambulance company - out of Arizona, I believe - had a spokesperson say in a recent interview that they have flown several people out of Africa and into USA, this when only Brantley and two others were publicly  acknowledged to have been evacuated.

Hmmm ... My tin foil hat is starting to twitch.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:57 | 5337858 news printer
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Nina Pham Boyfriend: Ebola Nurse Boyfriend Reportedly Admitted to Hospital with Ebola Symptoms

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1018543-nina-pham-boyfriend-ebola-nurse-...

there was exchange of some fluids i believe

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 18:59 | 5337867 Apocalaugh
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What's the etiquette - how soon after he dies before I can ask her out?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:01 | 5337885 Zgangsta
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Bearish for physical gold?

If Ebola goes full-blown pandemic, nobody is going to want to use currency that others have touched.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:06 | 5337909 Infinite QE
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That was probably the purpose for silver coinage, it being one of the strongest antibiotics known.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:08 | 5337916 Zgangsta
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Too bad Ebola is a virus.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:18 | 5338254 red_pill
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The Us army did a study on combating ebola with nan0 silver...the silver killed the virus in vitro. 10 PPM nano silver. get it while it's hot.

http://drrimatruthreports.com/wp-content/uploads/Analysis-of-DTRA-Nano-S...

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:08 | 5337917 kumquatsunite
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Gold would be worse with all of the crevises (sp) from the design. Money is nice and flat and easy to wash.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 01:49 | 5339938 trader1
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didn't apple recently bet on a payment method via iPhone in brick and mortar stores...

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:21 | 5337977 Bemused Observer
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Hey, this is just in time for the holiday shopping season. There ought to be plenty of elbow room at the mall, and maybe Black Friday will be a bit less intense. Online sales though, should be brisk.

Until they report the first postal worker with Ebola.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:23 | 5337987 thewayitis
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 Workers NEEd respirators ....www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/10/15/26692/  

 

 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:26 | 5338000 thewayitis
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 Workers NEED respirators.........www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/10/15/26692/

 

 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:32 | 5338019 1Inthebeginning
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Ebola possible 42 day incubation period covers 98% of ebola patients. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/14-october-2014/en/

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:53 | 5338463 PacOps
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From the Ho Li Fuk department.

 

I should have checked up here first.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:43 | 5338069 pupdog1
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It's time to send Frieden in to clean up after every one of these new patients.

Protocol this, bitch.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:47 | 5338092 lowgee
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So anyone know whats the latest on

Benghazi

IRS scandal

Fast and furious

Russia

Any other uncomfortable thing for the Regime?

 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:38 | 5338384 Bumbu Sauce
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Dat's rayciss!

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:47 | 5338093 lowgee
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So anyone know whats the latest on

Benghazi

IRS scandal

Fast and furious

Russia

Any other uncomfortable thing for the Regime?

 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 19:51 | 5338101 Apocalaugh
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OK, I admit it...when I think of Nina Pham, I get an eboner.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:00 | 5338142 p00k1e
Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:02 | 5338153 red_pill
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From CBS DFW

However, according to Flighttracker, the plane was used for five
additional flights on Tuesday before it was removed from service. Those
flights include a return flight to Cleveland, Cleveland to Fort
Lauderdale–Hollywood International Airport (FLL), FLL to Cleveland,
Cleveland to Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport (ATL), and
ATL to Cleveland.

While in Ohio, Vinson visited relatives, who are employees at Kent
State University. The university is now asking Vinson’s three relatives
stay off campus and self-monitor per CDC protocol for the next 21 days
out of an “abundance of caution.”

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:11 | 5338210 mariner22
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CNN (Sanjay Gupta) is reporting that he has learned from government sources that the second nurse Amber recognized a low grade temperature elevation and called the CDC for guidence and they did not advise her against taking the commercial flight. She did what most prudent people would do and got bad advise (at least compared to what the CDC chief is saying).

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:11 | 5338211 mariner22
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CNN (Sanjay Gupta) is reporting that he has learned from government sources that the second nurse Amber recognized a low grade temperature elevation and called the CDC for guidence and they did not advise her against taking the commercial flight. She did what most prudent people would do and got bad advise (at least compared to what the CDC chief is saying).

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:36 | 5338348 medium giraffe
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del.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:34 | 5338358 Clowns on Acid
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Why doesn't Obama and the ugly, in face and heart, Dr Emauel just build an Ebola website ? It worked with Obamacare.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:46 | 5338436 falconflight
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American styled central gov't FUBAR, just deal with it.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:48 | 5338443 sjb
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"she flied a second time" ??

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:49 | 5338447 PacOps
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonfortenbury/2014/10/15/21-days-not-a-long-...

A 21 day quarantine, after being infected with the Ebola virus, has become the standard quarantine recommendation for avoiding the spread of the virus. That’s not long enough to eliminate the risk, suggested a new study published yesterday in PLOS Currents: Outbreaks.

Everyone have a nice evening.  

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:48 | 5338448 falconflight
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Hundreds of children have died or been paralyzed by a contagion within the gov't school systems.  Hardly any media coverage.  Diversity is our strength.  Americans should be taking actions upon themselves and stop genuflecting to those whom will murder you and your babies in the end.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:54 | 5338459 QQQBall
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Texas Obola nurse. I feel like shit, I'm gonna fly to Ohio. Only in Merika

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:51 | 5338460 falconflight
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If the Ebolites become a voting block (snark full on), you might as well compose your last will and testiment while you await your fate.  

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 21:02 | 5338537 humble_man
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I have never said this before, but LISTEN UP if you live in the USA:

According to the post below, the primary ports of entry from West Africa are Atlanta, Baltimore, Houston, Miami and NYC, with significant West African immigrants living in NYC/NJ/Philadelphia, DC/VA/West VA/MD, and Minneapolis/St. Paul. 

http://blog.sermo.com/2014/08/11/ebola-update-us-cities-most-at-risk-for...

Note that Dallas is NOT LISTED. If you live in the cities or regions listed above, please pay more attention to Ebola news! I'm a member of this community, and I'm sincerely concerned about you. Also, if you live in or near domestic hubs, such as Atlanta, Chicago, Cincinnati, Dallas, Minneapolis....or to a lesser extent Denver, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, LAX, San Diego, SFO, or SEA...I just ask that you stay aware and make an intelligent decision for you and your family. Good luck. 

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