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Second Texas Healthcare Worker Tests Positive For Ebola
And then there were three.
As the Texas Department of State Health reported an hour ago, just three days after the shocking announcement that the late Thomas Eric Duncan had managed to infect one nurse in the first person-to-person transmission of Ebola on US ground, a second Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital worker has been infected with the deadly virus.
From the official statement:
Second Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola
News Release
Oct. 15, 2014
A second health care worker at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital who provided care for the first Ebola patient diagnosed in the United States has tested positive for the disease.
The health care worker reported a fever Tuesday and was immediately isolated at the hospital.
Health officials have interviewed the latest patient to quickly identify any contacts or potential exposures, and those people will be monitored. The type of monitoring depends on the nature of their interactions and the potential they were exposed to the virus.
The worker was among those who took care of Thomas Eric Duncan after he was diagnosed with Ebola.
The preliminary Ebola test was run late Tuesday at the state public health laboratory in Austin, and results were received at about midnight.
Confirmatory testing on a separate specimen will be conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.
Ebola is spread through direct contact with bodily fluids of a sick person or exposure to contaminated objects such as needles. People are not contagious before symptoms such as fever develop.
Surely the CDC's Tom Frieden will say this is perfectly expected: after all the CDC, which promised it would "stop Ebola in its tracks in the US" just two weeks ago, changed its tune and said to expect more cases.
As of this moment, equity futures are not happy, and certainly not transports, which after a seesaw session in which airline stocks rebounded following a deep oversold condition, are about to become even more oversold as the US public responds to increasingly unpleasant Ebola pandemic news by deciding to "just stay home this weekend."
And now we await the CDC to explain how this is all due to another breach in protocol for a disease which still is clearly not airborne.
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It's contained, thanks CDC! You fuckers!
Ebola and crude getting monkey slammed are excellent for the Texas economy. At least Texas isn't like the Germany of the USA.
The "Frieden Protocol" for the collapse of the US health care system.
Resign, Dr. Frieden.
From CNN: " Here's a look at some of the allegations the nurses made, according to the union:
Duncan wasn't immediately isolated
On the day that Duncan was admitted to the hospital with possible Ebola symptoms, he was "left for several hours, not in isolation, in an area where other patients were present," union co-president Deborah Burger said.
Up to seven other patients were present in that area, the nurses said, according to the union.
A nursing supervisor faced resistance from hospital authorities when the supervisor demanded that Duncan be moved to an isolation unit, the nurses said, according to the union.
The nurses' protective gear left their necks exposed
After expressing concerns that their necks were exposed even as they wore protective gear, the nurses were told to wrap their necks with medical tape, the union says.
"They were told to use medical tape and had to use four to five pieces of medical tape wound around their neck. The nurses have expressed a lot of concern about how difficult it is to remove the tape from their neck," Burger said.
At one point, hazardous waste piled up
"There was no one to pick up hazardous waste as it piled to the ceiling," Burger said. "They did not have access to proper supplies." "
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/14/health/texas-ebola-nurses-union-claims...
Presented without comment.
How many health care workers have to die before they don't blame it on poor infectious control technique? I think the tops of the CDC need to show us how it is done. Fuck you lying incompetent cocksuckers
Nobody saw this coming.
This is a controlled leak. These fuckers want to scare the living shits out of John Q. Public. A screaming bleeding out your ass death is just the ticket.
Listen.
Ewwww. I "GOT" the blood worms!
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Posted by "SO WHAT"
Analysis:
1)Even so we see a tiny fraction of .036% of the population getting infected and half of that dead over an 11 months outbreak.
2)So even living in these poor country, your chance of dying from Ebola is minuscule in an 11 months period.
3)With superior healthcare system, advanced sewage system in the US and Europe, the rate of infection and death should be even lower.
Ebola doesn't look so fearsome after facts are examined, is it?
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Even So, so even, So What!
it seems very de-escalating to me
Listen.
Posted by "RON PAUL", MD, himself:
"Ebola is a dangerous disease, but it is very difficult to contract. Ebola spreads via direct contact with the virus. This usually occurs though contact with bodily fluids. While the Ebola virus may remain on dry surfaces for several hours, it can be destroyed by common disinfectants. So common-sense precautions should be able to prevent Ebola from spreading."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-14/ron-paul-liberty-not-government...
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What Ron is trying to say:
"Spit, don't swallow".
OH!
I sure hope nobody starts to draw any parallels between Bush's handling of Katrina and Obama's handling of Ebola.
Because Ebola dwarfs Katrina, a regionally-localized, limited duration weather event vs. Ebola, a level 4 biohazard and bioterrorist's dream.
Great job everyone......top notch!
Lets kick out these AIPAC sponsored appointments, like Frieden at the CDC, and Yellen at the Fed, and Lew at the Treasury etc (supreme court dual citizens etc). This is nothing but tribal affirmative action morons ruining our country. Total incompetents.
Obama is just an AIPAC owned Uncle Tom making appointments mandated to him.
airborne: MSA, MMM, HON
Can everyone who now suffers and+or dies now sue the cdc for negligence?
Dallas, the Swan has landed.
Q: The CDC has had how many years to deal effectively with ebola and ebola response? A: Ebola emerged in 1976.
In order to work in the obama administration era, Incompetence is a top resume' bullet-point.
Not a peep out of Gubnor Perry ? Time for him to get the Boot!
LOL they had to put medical tape around their necks. We have all heard of the Brazilian. I guess the LIBERIAN is removing hair from your neck with medical tape.
Anyone curious to see if these Nurses were given a prevenative anti Ebola Vaccine?
He has made press releases in Texas and I will be glad when he is gone. He isn't running for re-election in November but his replacement looks to be even worse.
Long enough to make a weaponized version.
America = third world country
It became a 3rd world country once AIPAC asserted control of our political system. And we became a host organism for Israeli causes and needs.
Obola + AIPAC = Third World Cuntry + High Treason
These fucktards are using their "veil of incompetence" to promote the spread of the virus around the world... If this were not the case, western africa would be sealed off right now except for aid workers, period, end of story... Once it gets into general population and begins multiplying, the "11 month till burn out" theory goes right out the window...
You're doing a heck of a job Browny!?
Oh! Oh! I did, made the Katrina comparison on a different thread yesterday!
Is the monkey.....errr....is the puppy....oh snap.
That's just...so.....wrong.
Promoting that sort of interspecies sexual violence is not helping, Raj.
Puppy raper, it's awful, ain't it? But he loves our attention. I think it makes him rape it harder. It's a fetish, he is a kind of exhibitionist.
And if you look at the data from just the last weak, instead of the last year, your chances of contracting ebola in Liberia is thousands of times higher than over the longer time period.
Seriously, why are you trying to baffle or bullshit us by the stretching the start-point backward on a positive sloping plot, much less an exponential function?
Listen Redneck.
Read this comment and you will understand.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-14/ron-paul-liberty-not-government...
I order for you to have a reasonable discussion with me you must first show me that you understand the "BASIC" playbook of "THE GREAT SATAN".
Go to Africa and you might understand...
Save me the "China is in tight with Africa and they actually appreciate and welcome the [Yellow Devils]" propaganda.
As to "swooping in and saving" Africa, you might want to look at what the Russians, Chinese, Cubans and others are actually doing (and without the access to Yellen's printing press).
Obozo has been ignoring Africa for six years 3,000 US troops aren't going to change the tide.
Listen Redneck.
"PROBLEM IS": Rural and Urban USSA is full of Rednecks and their pick'em-up-trucks, ye ha!
Go back to Yahoo from whence you slithered.
I find that a little offensive, but yet proud of your last statement. My p/u truck will run over your little POS Prius when SHTF. And I guarantee you'll be running from the big city when it does. Tell that to scooter when your beggin for food, two faced troll.
"It's a Mr. Death or something, he's come about the Reaping?"
TomJoad,
Old timers come out when shit gets real. Glad to see you knocking about, in the last three days there have been many old timers peeking in and posting.
You still at sea doing the oil thing?
Indeed I am still in the oil biz, interestingly my original field of study was microbiology. I was in Antarctica for a year and when I came back the S/N ratio here had gone to shit. So I moseyed off to "Spend more time with the family."
Great to see you, my avatar had always had a major crush on your avatar.
5 years and 7weeks, damn Tom, you are a fossil ;)
*
Are you normally a blethering idiot and a prick, or are you off your meds again?
I came here from the intersection of entrenched western financial and industrial interests and West African governments.
Do you have any idea who owns the capital that has been invested in Africa (who loads the feeder funds to those few funds that actually directly invest in new businesses in Africa) and who stands to lose the most if Africa falls apart?
Exxon, BP, Total, Alcoa, Glencore, Coca Cola, Firestone, Cargill, Dreyfus and countless others of the original "globalists" have been West Africa longer than you've been alive. It's all your favorite NWO globalist financiers (and some of their pet .govs) who stand to lose their fiat if things fall apart.
If you want to toss ad hominems, then you might want to at least figure out what country I actually live in (since it's rather well known around here, and might save you some embarrassment).
+1. are the many, many British pensioners heavely invested in BP... globalists, too?
None of my relatives with traditional pensions have ever been personally courted by senior executives of major conglomerates for their proxy vote...
The managers of those pension funds (and the financial institutions they work for) are another matter.
then let's put the average British pensioner as "another matter globalist" through his pension fund
As much as the Germans were responsible for Hitler and as Ward Churchill says are Americans who live their lives in ignorance of what the elite do in the name of American Interests. I do not hold anyone responsible except those who force "consumerism" on the peoples in place of productivity.
fine, but Big Finance is all about spreading risks and Big Biz management is all about spreading blame. Left unfettered, they both make the whole world at risk and to blame. Just a thought
"Go without a mask and you'll see better"
~ Dustin Hoffman as Col. Sam Daniels, "Outbreak"
Bangalore Equit... Listen Redneck.
Read this comment and you will understand.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-14/ron-paul-liberty-not-government...
I order for you to have a reasonable discussion with me you must first show me that you understand the "BASIC" playbook of "THE GREAT SATAN".
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Nobody can have a reasonable discussion with an arrogant prick. You sound more like Obama then someone that would have a reasonable discussion.
Your eloquence, or rather lack there of, does nothing to convince me you posses sufficient intelect to have a reasonable discussion about a subject you're obviously ignorant of.
eloquence is a matter of good language skills, not intellect only. you never know if English is someone's first or last language, here on ZH. Having said that, his "signature" "Listen" at the beginning of every frigging phrase goes on my nerves
He likes that. Any attention is better than none at all. Try to think of it as performance art, it helps to reframe it. Not all art is pretty, some of it is disturbing and that is more of what he is going for. He stays in character pretty well, but his range isn't like an MDB, a true troll performance artist.
Agreed, you are correct fo course.
That said, English is not my first, or for that matter my second language, and yet nontheless, with just a little effort a sentence that conveys a meaning in a polite and reasonable manner appears. :)
exp function about cases from july would have make dozen multiple times more sick ppl than there is now.
exp function based on spain case would have made theorically 10k cases in end october more realistic 3-5k cases , we do not ear a single more case since.
you americans are all paranoid. at this stage of "appearing" situation, only two possibilities :
1) ebola is killing so more people that we cannot tell it to media mainstream.
-> internet would have overwhelmed the information embargo and this would have leaked for weeks
2) sheep dumbfucks like 95% here take all what they read 1st degree of understanding and go full paranoid - in fact you are natural full time paranoid - to go buy stocks foods and survivalist hype to triger wave of consumming for the sake of economy.
-> nothing is going to happen else than fear mongering, scary politic practice to keep you under control.
i let you choose your side. personnally, i just dont give a fuck.
haters gonna hate, downvote me, but, accept for unce in your life that YOU want things to go WORST, cause you want MORE that system can offer to you.
if you all natural/forest/boat_lake_silvers bars in ass would were really in the green, you would not post fucks on ZH you would be already self deleted from the grid, you would be naked a tree in the ass hunting for food, , strangely, i suspect many of you to have a hidden room full of ammos, guns, foods, porns n oil....
in fact you just want bad thing to happen to give a meaning to your behavior and to give a sense of the accumulated stuff you got.
Dude....you're all over map....condense and edit.
Dude, content takes space. Just saying
I would prefer that he just shutup and lurk.
...am I the only one who thinks all this gov't ebola stuff is one grand hoax?
Now they are trying to link up ISIS fighters appearing in USA, spreading ebola! "....Please, take our remaining miniscule rights away!"
"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." - former WH Chief of Staff
Which came first- the chicken or the egg?
The hoax crowd likes to not only discount the vast preponderance of actual evidence, but also the laws of biology, chemistry, and physics while advancing their theories. Most idiotically of all - they almost uniformly seem to think a naturally occurring serious crisis and government subterfuge are mutually exclusive.
To take that mutual exclusivity to its logical, but absurd, conclusion- George W Bush is either God, or Hurricane Katrina was induced by HAARP (or some other government technology).
Of course any group prosecuting total war, is not going exclude the use of a weapon which can help achieve their ends, and could do so at a cost acceptable to them. However, government will (almost always) exploit rational fears to elicit irrational (voluntary) surrender of civil liberties, it's called the political process.
The hoax crowd are like those subset of children who need coloring books, with clear inviolable lines to bound their rationale and elucidate expressions of their thinking. The world just doesn't work that way.
But at least the hoax crowd might be innocent retards. The "people" who proclaim there is no way the government is going to try to usurp the rights of citizens are liars, since that is an impossible conclusion to arrive at with even a single functioning synapse in a human brain.
Paranoid, eh? Right.
..."we do not ear [sic] a single more case since."...
Shades of Nigera, no? Examine your hypothesis a bit closer.
Do you trust math and medical professionals on the ground?
Or...
Do you trust bureaucrats and state controlled media?
Once you answer that question for yourself, you begin to understand "paranoia" and the true function it was intended to serve. The term paranoia is really a bastardized and slandered term for resistance one gets for seeking the naked truth.
You're a fucking idiot.
Doubling every 21 days.
2^13 cases (8192) : 13*21 = 273
October 1, 2014 (Wed) Day 274 91 Week 40
I'd say it's pretty much dead on schedule.
December 23rd ... 2^17 -> 132,000
February 24, 2015 .... 2 ^20 -> There's your million cases.
In the United States:
9/26 : 1 case (Duncan)
10/15 : 2 cases .... hey that's 20 days.
11/5 : I wonder where we'll be.
Are you the slope that lives next to Hank Hill?
Are you the ghost of MDB?
Not good enough at this character. MDB was a master.
You should be scared. Ebola liquifies your internal organs as it replicates. The death rate for this particular strain is hovering around 70%. All these health professionals, including "exceptional" American health professionals, are getting infected despite so-called protocols and protective gear. What's not scary about that?
Fear is the mind killer.
Ebola is the ass bleeder.
I am the walrus.
See how they run like pigs from a gun see how they fly, they're crying.
At least the Dune witches had a long-term plan.
Here the only plan is get everyone Ebolized and then settle with the survivors.
We've been prepped.
Which is really an utterly incomplete and incorrect statement. You cannot have courage without fear. Consider the implications before you repeat the mind killer meme again.
Meme? I thought I was quoting Dune. Fear isn't normally conducive to clarity of thought. Censorship isn't normally conducive to conversation.
you are pointing in the right direction. of health professional being scared because Ebola puts them in the very front line, at a way higher risk then the rest of the population... with or without very fancy gear
now, of course, question is how they are going to resist the urge of asking for lots of fancy gear, way more money and possibly even a way not to be in the front line
Ebola, meet the most expensive health care system of the world. MEHCSOTW, meet Ebola. I wonder if we'll see health admins in HazMat suits asking to work from home
just a weak parody without any relevant contributional value to the problem
Re. Expensive Equipment, See Dallas nurses wrapping their exposed necks with medical tape up-thread.
Tom, is that you?
Any bets until the next outbreak in Dallas? One day? Three? A week?
Why do we have a government anyway? They don't protect the American people from insane bankers, foreign diseases, crappy food, or radiation. Oh, I almost forgot to mentioned they don't protect the borders, protect American jobs nor do anything of value except tax the shit out of us.
It seems we only need an military these days to do the bidding of the corporations.
at this point... the govt. only exists for the banks and the lobbies..... and ultimately, there is a gun there to enforce all those regulations on your ass.
Us Zerohedgers all knew the shit was gonna hit the fan some day. But who knew it was going to be bloody diarrhea???
I did.
The minute I saw the video clip of that sick ass doctor cracking a "joke" about Ebola being his pick for the much needed culling.
They always tell you how they are gonna fuck you. Whether you listen is not their concern, really. From that doctors perspective, the warning absolved him and if you die, you weren't paying attention.
If you live, good for you.
Bet those fuckers invest heavily in respirators soon.
...or ...just hold their breath.
The dismal children's 30 second approach.
It's that bad.
What can we expect when the people who are in charge are downplaying the risk to the point of endangering civilization as we know it? Want to know some more shit? I've been going over the scientific literature on Ebola and with minimal effort am finding reports like this one, which shows airborne ebola can be replicated in an experimental setting and it is quite deadly.
"The potential of aerogenic infection by Ebola virus was established by using a head-only exposure aerosol system. Virus-containing droplets of 0.8-1.2 microns were generated and administered into the respiratory tract of rhesus monkeys via inhalation. Inhalation of viral doses as low as 400 plaque-forming units of virus caused a rapidly fatal disease in 4-5 days. Demonstration of fatal aerosol transmission of this virus in monkeys reinforces the importance of taking appropriate precautions to prevent its potential aerosol transmission to humans."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7547435
That article is from 1995, for God's sake! Almost 20 years ago now.
Want a more recent article on the reality and danger of aerosolized Ebola? How about this one, for instance.
"There is limited knowledge of the pathogenesis of human ebolavirus infections and no reported human cases acquired by the aerosol route. There is a threat of ebolavirus as an aerosolized biological weapon, and this study evaluated the pathogenesis of aerosol infection in 18 rhesus macaques....Infection progressed rapidly with whole-body destruction of lymphoid tissues, hepatic necrosis, vasculitis, hemorrhage, and extravascular fibrin accumulation. Hypothermia and thrombocytopenia were noted in late stages with the development of disseminated intravascular coagulation and shock. This study provides unprecedented insight into pathogenesis of human aerosol Zaire ebolavirus infection and suggests development of a medical countermeasure to aerosol infection will be a great challenge due to massive early infection of respiratory lymphoid tissues."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23262834
There are several other studies as well, but the point is if the lungs of patients are hemorrhaging they will have miniscule to large droplets of blood in coughs and sneezes that are likely to be highly contagious. Wearing one of those cheap face masks or leaving any skin at all exposed to these patients could be fatal. End of story.
Our leaders are idiots and are getting innocent people killed because they don't even read the scientific literature that our tax dollars have paid for. Assholes!
+1000
Nurses boyfriend quarantined with Ebola symptoms.
http://youngcons.com/breaking-horrible-news-for-the-boyfriend-of-the-ebo...
Complete media blackout.
No worries......Morning Joe will expose everything.
...and Chris Matthews has an ebola thrill running up his leg.
GZG...
I'd be looking at their scrubbing procedures in the hospital cafeteria...and clean off those moist warm foam cushons on the couches and chairs all over the world. (that is where the virus probably harbors and waits)
Airports, Airplanes, restaurants, docors offices, waiting rooms, cars...etc.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/10/14/Texas-Ebola-Hospital-Cafeteria-Becomes-Ghost-Town
...and Chris Matthews has an ebola thrill running up his leg.
Hate to be fussy, but...I think it would be running down his leg in this case..or spraying.
One can dream. The irony of if he were to get Ebola coupled with that past comment of undying Kenyan admiration is just more delicious than I can bear.
Fire Frieden NOW!!
It feels like the USS Liberty all over again. That bitch Snyderman breaks quarantine and walks around exposing tons of people just so she could eat at her favorite restaurant. And an even bigger moron Frieden as the CDC director leading us to an Ebola pandemic. Enough of these killer clowns.
Those of the double passport are protected. I keep saying this. It's the magic crystals in their blood from their hyena mothers dna.
Protected from "below" as opposed to "on high".
The CDC puppet's work is almost complete. He will resign and say it's because he wants to spend more time with the wife and kids and what's more, whocouldanode, etc. etc.
Then, he will put that other passport to use and slime his way back to his homeland.
Watched him last night. The un-elected Frieden is PERFECT to lead us into a pandemic. Repolarize the context.
Leave him there. Otherwise, they'll just hire a better liar.
HAUS> BTW, the link on that youngcons website with the guy chasing Lois Lerner is amazing
http://youngcons.com/lois-lerner-confronted-will-you-apologize-for-targeting-conservatives-you-have-to-see-this/
This is what worries me....there are other cases out there that we are not being told about. As soon as one case breaks that was not 'directly' in contact with Duncan, or any other ebola victim, all hell is going to break out.
Kinda like the quarantine of Duncans' family. Been two weeks and not a word.
Duncan's girlfriend Louise Troh and her 35 yo daughter Youngor Jallah has 'supposedly' spoken via phone to the MSM as early as 3 days ago.
Self quarantine's have been broken in multiple locations.
Anyone wonder if the reason these folks haven't been reported as infected is that Duncan was in town for a "bridge marriage?" Maybe they knew he had ebola and stayed the heck away from him before he checked in to the hospital.
Anyone wonder if the reason these folks haven't been reported as infected is that Duncan was in town for a "bridge marriage?" Maybe they knew he had ebola and stayed the heck away from him before he checked in to the hospital.
Maybe that gated "home" they were taken to was in a FEMA camp.
Or a plastic lined shipping container hooked to a trucks tailpipe.
You knew that was coming. My guess is he hit that as soon as she walked through the door after her Ebola shift. Do you suppose she thought enough of him to say, "Uh, I love you honey, so just for safety sake maybe you should just take a cold shower and beat off for 21 days." Just saying folks. Let's see, where all did nurses's husband go after contact...to work, Starbucks, hope he didn't have another squeeze on the side or this thing will be spreading like STDs on Spring Break. Obozobolo and his minions did everything they could to import this disease. Just wait till the dumb fucks taking the newly made Ebola drug experimentally start roaming the countryside like Typhoid Marys. We're Screwed.
DId you see the end of this article -- the guy who broke this news had his twitter account frozen.
TPTB are, then, actively silencing those of us who want to communicate information quickly. Diabolical!
Mrs Cog found similar information with little effort. The response to Ebola in the US has been political, not medical.
Agreed. I can imagine that soon every ambulance chasing lawyer in the country will be suing the CDC and Fed Gov on behalf of the families of those healthcare workers who are becoming infected as a result of their lies/stupidity. Dr. Frieden and Obama have the hemorrhaged blood of these innocent people on their hands.
Suing?
Fuck that.
Negligent manslaughter and attempted manslaughter.
230 million consecutive counts.
Which is really a more modest expression of the true charge of...
Attempted genocide and crimes against humanity.
It seems everything in America is political these days. But whose politics? Not Americans. This shit has got to stop. Why did they bring it here? Well, I believe the results (give it 6 months) will justify the means: "they' - whomever 'they' are - really are out to cull the herd. 500,000,000 from 6,500,000,000. Agenda 21.
I know ... suing. Typical Money Changer comment. Like suing's gonna settle something.
The MSM will probably put a positive spin on this by nominating 'winner' survivors and talkshows.
Miss Ebola 2015 ? (sicko and demented but true)
Dismal.
At least we ain't raciss' 'n sheeit!
To Nurenberg we shall bring them. Like Nurenberg, we will publicly try 23 of the most hardened Obama "leaders" for "crimes that must be punished."
And then hang them. Slowly.
Went through Hong Kong in late July everything was normal. When I came back through in mid-August they had thermal scanners setup in the international arrival terminals.....They knew then this could/would become a problem. This was clearly a medical prevention step early in the game.
This has been around for a while now, I just took this info from another link I followed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hot_Zone
DaddyO
Here ...
http://www.amazon.com/Hot-Zone-Terrifying-Story-Origins-ebook/dp/B007DCU...
Read this book before you post out of ignorance !
Oh they read it all right. It's just that their goals are different from mine and yours. They have a different set of guidestones, err guidelines.
And if you lock a dozen teenagers into a sealed 5x5 bathroom and 11 of them pass around a bong even the loser will get high.
Yet your chances of getting high from being in the same vicinity as someone smoking a joint on your front stoop are remarkably lower. And pot is most definitely "airborne" when burnt...
The methodology section of that paper is important. (Actually just about every word of a properly written and peer reviewed paper is important.)
Just remember, all it takes is one virion. . .
As long as we're talking about just one virion of .08µm by a variable length up to a maximum of 1.4µm, and even the "gold standard" PAPRs that US nurses can't get their hands on use HEPA filters (albeit with up to 99.9999% at U17) which are rated for airborne particles 0.3µm in diameter.
How many virions are in the average dying pukes of ebola zombies again?
Eboli > vaccination
Morris talks with Vaccination Skeptic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpqiRtz9-dM&list=UUweyNwo4cZM5gsIpuG4Zlew
You theory that TPTB are oblivious to the nature of this virus and it's distribution is flawed... I contend that they know exactly what they are doing... The fuckers have gone and done it, they really have... They have kicked off the pandemic that will halve the worlds population in the next few years... They tried with AIDS and that didn't work, so back to the drawing board...
Oh bullshit !!!
Just another conspiracy wannabe -
This thread virus has been around Africa for millions of years. It is a natural organism.
Idiot.
...."Our leaders are idiots and are getting innocent people killed because they don't even read the scientific literature that our tax dollars have paid for. Assholes!...."
Or, they read it all, twice..and determined it was exactly the thing the needed at just the right time.
Just sayin'
Even some people here on ZH seem to be having a hard time getting their heads around the idea that their government, at least the part calling the shots, might want them dead.
So we see claims like, the dot-govs won't read the medical liturature. The dot-govs have a pc agenda.
What if the people calling the shots just want you and yours dead? Maybe they don't see any other way they can keep their ill-gotten gains? Never Forget - they had no problem murdering 3,000+ citizens in broad daylight on 9/11. Before that, it was a couple hundred unavenged sailors on the USS Liberty. Why would they stop now? Its not like they're gonna grow a conscience.
And some folks have a hard time realizing that some things are bigger than governments attempts at control. Nature can be a real bitch - and hemorrhagic viruses are not to be trifled with.
What would a govt. contrived outbreak look like? What would a un-supported outbreak look like? Answer: Basically the same, except one camp will attribute mistakes to intent and vice versa.
At a certain point, it won't really matter though. The arguments will be academic. Once the horses are out of the barn, there'll be no getting them back - and we may be past that point already.
Said Perfectly.
People are falling back and in some cases misapplying the various terms false flag, psy-op, etc. without putting it into the context of the operator...in this case, Ebola.
It could be all or any given one.
It does not matter.
What does matter is motive and outcome coupled with EVERY SINGLE thing we know about our government.
If they went to the playbook looking for a play and Ebola, THEE KING DADDY fuckall of them all, then it's bad news no matter what.
Get that through your thick REDDIT head now or die. There is no reason to NOT prepare for something. They have said they got it under control. That's the international signal for "duck, because shit is inbound!" You are in the middle of a closing window, right fucking now. Lay in whatever you can manage.
Or just wash your hands a lot.
There is such a thing as over analysis.
From 16 November 2012 on the BBC website "Growing concerns over 'in the air' transmission of Ebola"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20341423
Fuck!
It's clear these health care workers don't have a clue how dangerous Ebola is and how it should be handled.
Every first responder and health care worker should read Richard Preston's book "The Hot Zone" TODAY.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Hot-Zone-Terrifying-Origins/dp/0385479565
If they were armed with knowledge about how this disease affects the human body and how the experts handle it, they would't step foot within 50 feet of an infected patient.
All you have to do as a healthcare worker is:
Look at the PPE that the CDC wears when dealing with Ebola.
Then, note what they tell YOU to wear.
It's that simple, yet nobody makes that connection. They are trying to kill you. Burn those vacation days. Or quit.
I worked in a hospital for 4 years as an orderly from the age of 17. I used to handle the bio waste and I didn't even use gloves. I had no care in the world. What 17 year old does? I used to clean quarantine rooms then go through the whole hospital.
Some of my colleagues would smoke weed on shift. There is no way any hospital is prepared for this. I know from experience.
Not only that, Ebola costs will bankrupt most hospitals and send health care costs soaring. It will also have a severe impact on other patients as whole hospital wings are closed down out of caution. We will quickly go from a situation where a few Ebola patients are getting the best of care, to one where many Ebola patients are getting ZERO care. And when that happens, we are all royally fuked.
Instead, we have a CDC director who insists it would be counterproductive to ban commerical flights from strickedn countries to shut down potential Ebola tourism. He and his ilk are ideological stodges who look out for the PC, globalist agenda first (gotta import those voters!) and actual ciitizens far down the list.
This guy is being ignored, but he makes a lot of sense. Keep Ebola patients out of the hospitals:
http://uneditedpolitics.com/dr-gil-mobley-interview-on-fox-news-why-the-...
" We will quickly go from a situation where a few Ebola patients are getting the best of care, to one where many Ebola patients are getting ZERO care."
+100 This is what is happening in West Africa right now, and this is why so many more are dying. Hell, in Liberia the ebola victims are lucky if they can even find a hospital bed, let alone get proper care.
And nothing will hasten the downward spiral more than if health care workers believe that the protections aren't working. Like any other profession, there are some true heroes, but most are there for the paycheck.
rbg, "most are there for the paycheck"...fuck you, fuck you..been on ZH awhile, I know you are above room temp IQ..you go to work and as miffed said risk your family and friends along with yourself. ebola is a weapon as well as an infection, you go jump on the grenade hero.
Well, sorry I pissed you off, just speaking the truth--which is what ZH is all about. Like I said, most professionals are just there for the paycheck. I don't think medical professionals are that much different, but maybe events will prove me wrong. Trust me, this is one instance where I really HOPE I'm wrong. As for me, I was in the military once, but never considered myself a hero. There is a reason why I never went into medicine--just not suited for it period. Just don't have that much compassion for helping my fellow man.
rbg, liked your responce, but I am afraid, much like john wayne war movie lovers don't understand war, you just don't understand the truth of healthcare..we get paid to do a job, give good advice, care for the sick, under our system the .gov people are responsible for policy- this is a national and international health threat, you might understand when as I said in nam, Lieutenant you want that hill then you go first. we are the grunts and our leadership is failing badly. not a hero.
Uh, maybe I'm missing something, but I think you're just confirming what I said. Medical professionals are paid to do a job. If they think their life is at undue risk, they will likely call in sick rather than get infected themselves. Self preservation is just human nature.
BTW--many medical professionals certainly give the impression they will risk their lives for their patients. I know because I've had a few tell me as much. I just never completely bought it. It's only when the chips are down, you always find out who is real and who is an actor.
I think the first order of business should be to keep potentially infected people from getting into the country. Also think that Dr. whose link I shared makes a lot of sense--which is why he'll be ignored. Peace.
The cleanup from each patient will take massive amounts of 'non-green' pyro-technic methods. Lots of acid or burning...probably will hire the Army Corps of Engineers to hollow out a large pit in Arizona or Nevada to dump it all....and nuke it good.
That might be the only 'logical' method to dispose of the Ebolized garments (billions and billions of cubic feet of infected waste).
Its more toxic than Fukushima.
Nuclear fire will do the trick in a very large and very deep 1-mile diameter Nevada waste dump...in the test range. Just don't be downrange !
Dismal.
You need to stop thinking that hospitals are there to help you.
This is taken from a book 'Emile, or On Education' by Rousseau.
A feeble body makes a feeble mind. Hence the influence of physic, an art which does more harm to man than all the evils it professes to cure. I do not know what the doctors cure us of, but I know this: they infect us with very deadly diseases, cowardice, timidity, credulity, the fear of death. What matter if they make the dead walk, we have no need of corpses; they fail to give us men, and it is men we need...
You will tell me, as usual, that the doctors are to blame, that medicine herself is infallible. Well and good, then give us the medicine without the doctor, for when we have both, the blunders of the artist are a hundredfold greater than our hopes from the art. This lying art, invented rather for the ills of the mind than of the body, is useless to both alike; it does less to cure us of our diseases than to fill us with alarm. It does less to ward off death than to make us dread its approach. It exhausts life rather than prolongs it; should it even prolong life it would only be to the prejudice of the race, since it makes us set its precautions before society and our fears before our duties. It is the knowledge of danger that makes us afraid. If we thought ourselves invulnerable we should know no fear. The poet armed Achilles against danger and so robbed him of the merit of courage; on such terms any man would be an Achilles...
I will go farther, and will declare that, as I never call in a doctor for myself, I will never send for one for Emile, unless his life is clearly in danger, when the doctor can but kill him.
Damning. If someone tells my wife to wrap her neck up in medical tape, I'll personally apply it to said instructor, and tightly.
LOL great comment and thoughts Cthonic
"The nurses' protective gear left their necks exposed"
VAM-EBOLA-PIRES LOOSE IN DALLAS!!
Dracuola
Healthcare is big business! $$$$$
Ebola will kill that too.
Next theory?
If we had the right president, with the right response..... We wouldn't stop our air travel.... we'd bring our troops in and quarantine every country that has an outbreak.... nothing goes out without a quarantine.... as well as bring in as many people as you have to in order to contain as best you can......
It's probably already too late to do much in Africa unless you seal it up and allow it to burn out in infected areas and ENFORCE a quarantine for entire areas there.
They might just as well stick a spigot on Brantley...that poor bastard will be getting drained for his blood like a kosher cow...Quick! Orange juice and cookies to Brantley Stat!
God will make more for him. He's the new Red Sea.
A recovered victim is no panacea. There are already many strains.
Hope he's A POS, for selfish reasons.
But by the time it hits my neighborhood it will have mutated, if it hasn't already.
As more survive, there will be more of them to "pharm."
But his work isn't done. There's still so many uninfected Americans.