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WHO Shocked At 427 Ebola-Infected Healthcare Workers As Cases Top 9000, Deaths Exceed 4500
If trained professionals (in West Africa and the US) are becoming infected by the deadly Ebola virus, what hope is there for fellow passengers in a tightly-packed metal tube? The World Health Organization expects Ebola cases to top 9000 this week and deaths to exceed 4500 as they shockingly note 427 healthcare workers are now infected. The economic impact of Ebola continues to rise as Liberia slashes its GDP estimate and East African nations discuss strategies to stop the spread from the West. In Europe, Germany is sending aid, the Spanish nurse is stable but Madrid airport activated emergency measures due to a suspected Ebola passenger. US screening restrictions increase as Yale New Haven Hospital is dealing with a patient with Ebole-like symptoms. Politicians begin debating travel bans as Dallas is expected to approve a "state of disaster" today. Contained?
First the shocking news:
- *EBOLA CASES TO EXCEED 9,000 IN W. AFRIA THIS WEEK, WHO SAYS
- *EBOLA DEATHS TO EXCEED 4,500 IN W. AFRICA THIS WEEK, WHO SAYS
- *427 HEALTH-CARE WORKERS INFECTED WITH EBOLA, WHO'S NUTTALL SAYS
Across Europe...
Officials claim the Spanish Ebola nurse is 'stable' and 68 low-risk people are being monitored (via Bloomberg)
Of 68 “low-risk” people being monitored for ebola infection in Spain, one developed low fever this morning, Fernando Simon, coordinator of the center of alerts and emergencies at Spain’s health ministry, says in news conference
- Person has fever above 37.7 degrees: Simon
- 15 “high-risk” contacts are still all asymptomatic: Simon
- Ebola patient Teresa Romero is stable; viral levels are falling, still not negative: Simon
But Madrid airport activated emergency measures... (via Reuters)
Madrid's Barajas international airport activated emergency measures on Thursday after a passenger arriving on an Air France flight was suspected of possibly having Ebola, a spokeswoman for airports operator Aena said.
Spain's health ministry confirmed that an Ebola emergency protocol had been set in motion but declined to give details.
Aena and Air France said in separate statements that a passenger on Air France 1300 from Lagos via Paris had started shaking during the flight. Air France said the other passengers disembarked from the plane, which will now be disinfected. The return flight has been cancelled.
And Germany is sending aid... (via Bloomberg)
Funding boost to raise German emergency aid against Ebola to EU102m ($130m), Christian Democratic Union lawmaker Nobert Barthle says in e-mailed statement.
- Funding approved by German lower-house budget committee yday
- Germany also contributing EU700m in long-term aid for African health systems: Barthle
In Africa...
Liberia cuts its GDP estimate... (via FrontPageAfrica)
Economic “growth is expected to be zero percent in 2015,” due to Ebola, contraction in mining activity, agriculture, services, Finance Minister Amara Konneh says in interview with online edition of Monrovia-based newspaper.
Disease “seriously affected economic activities and livelihoods throughout the country with domestic food production, mining activities, hospitality industry, and transport services all declining.”
And East African nations are in full panic mode...
“We have already seen an impact on our economies, regarding reduced tourism flows, flight cancellations,” Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta says at conference in Rwandan capital, Kigali.
- East African Community is being “proactive to avoid the spread of the virus to EAC countries”
- 5-nation bloc also looking for ways to help affected countries
- EAC includes Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Rwanda and Burundi
The US continues to see 'potential' cases arrive... (via WTNH)
A patient is being evaluated at Yale New Haven Hospital at this hour with Ebola-like symptoms, according to a statement from the hospital.
A physicians document obtained by News 8 says, “On Wednesday evening Yale-New Haven Hospital admitted a patient who met the threshold to be monitored for Ebola virus disease(DVD). The Hospital is working with the CDC and Prevention and the State Department of Public Heath to have the patient tested for EVD.”
News 8 Medical Reporter Jocelyn Maminta has talked to a credible source with the hospital who says the patient is one of the Yale Researchers who just returned from a trip to Liberia on Monday. This is one of the same researchers officials decided not to have quarantined after their trip to Africa.
And politicians are pushing for travel bans and visa restrictions...
And Dallas County commissioners are expected to announce a "State of Disaster" today
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Protocol, bitchez!!!
On NBC's Today's TAKE at 9AM this morning, talking heads Tamron Hall, Bill Geist and Natalie Morales took turns blasting Texas Presbyterian Hospital for its woeful safety procedures handling a Liberian patient, Thomas Duncan, with the Ebola death virus. There was no comment from any of them on why mainstream journalists accepted without question all the lies being peddled to them by CDC's Tom Frieden and the hospital's executives until the first Texas Presbyterian nurse tested positive for the Ebola death virus. Hospital nurses who had been complaining to reporters about the real situation at Texas Presbyterian (including about a room filled to the ceiling with Ebola contaminated waste material) were ignored by self-censoring reporters and editors. Reporters who are total inompetents only good presenting "Happy Talk" news stories about how great the American medical system is. Trouble is, the Ebola death virus doesn't have cable so it ignores these stories as it looks for its next victims.
But wait, this just in from Dr. Tommy Boy Frieden, the director of the CDC....."We're stopping Ebola in its tracks".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCPpienJwrQ
Tom Freiden should resign immediately.
He's completely incompetent, is consistently spreading certifiably incorrect information, has repeatedly lied about the actual protocols CDC has/has not had in place in preparing for the eventuality of US Ebola cases, and his general demeanor & cluelessness in response to even basic questions are the classic hallmarks of and indicative of those of a hapless, ineffectual career bureaucrat - the kind that usually skate by in life until a crisis happens, revealing that they're not wearing any clothes.
If obamacare didn't discourage health-care workers from their profession... this should do it
This will also discourage people from flying and where are iPhone metals going to come from now?
But But But ...
It Can't Be Airborn ...
...interesting timing given POTUS canceled a scheduled visit to the CT area yesterday.
i'm shocked that our fearless (JV)leader hasn't invented a catchy new #hashtag by now to combat ebola ! ! WTF Barry ? ! FORE !!
An end to barry and whats her names free lobster, links and lies lunch program?
This kind of crap pisses me off to no extent! Shut down the borders with the heavily infected countries and the spread will slow down. Damn it Obama, stop golfing and riding Holder to search for a solution!!!
the best medicine is not needing a physician. Start eating your vegetables, and get some exercise.
When an infection does occur in humans, the virus can be spread in several ways to others. Ebola is spread through direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes in, for example, the eyes, nose, or mouth) with
- blood or body fluids (including but not limited to urine, saliva, sweat, feces, vomit, breast milk, and semen) of a person who is sick with Ebola
- objects (like needles and syringes) that have been contaminated with the virus
- infected animals
- Ebola is not spread through the air or by water, or in general, by food. However, in Africa, Ebola may be spread as a result of handling bushmeat (wild animals hunted for food) and contact with infected bats. There is no evidence that mosquitos or other insects can transmit Ebola virus. Only mammals (for example, humans, bats, monkeys, and apes) have shown the ability to become infected with and spread Ebola virus.
How Do You Get HIV?Certain body fluids from an HIV-infected person can transmit HIV.
These body fluids are:
These body fluids must come into contact with a mucous membrane or damaged tissue or be directly injected into your bloodstream (by a needle or syringe) for transmission to possibly occur. Mucous membranes are the soft, moist areas just inside the openings to your body. They can be found inside the rectum, the vagina or the opening of the penis, and the mouth.
When was the last time we watched 15 people in Hazmat suits transfer a HIV patient in an incubator to a hospital, broadcasted simultaneous to TV-screens all over the west and in hysterical prints in the newspapers?
As the way of transmitting is the same as HIV, why all the hysteria? There are 50.000 HIV patients every year in the USA, but they walk around free among us..
If you have Ebola you will get you sick within 48 hours, so you have little time to sleep around to transmit the disease with sexual intimacy. HIV is much more dangerous, since you can walk/sleep around without knowing it a very long time before getting ill.
I never heard of WHO stating that all countries should get vaccinated to stop HIV? The HIV approach is educate the people about the way it is transmitted so they have safe sex to avoid getting it.
So why would Ebola be different, remember it is less dangerous, because it outs itself within 24-48 hours!
In my opinion, the airborn story is BS: if it was airborn there would be no one alive in Africa by now (it would spread like the flue, wide and fast, it would only take weeks, not months for the whole continent to get Ebola)
I would be more concerned over the dangers of getting injected with an experimental vaccine.
Just make sure not to sleep with an ebola patient and you will be just fine.
So please stop panicking and get back to work, the world economy is at danger with this Ebola circus.
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/
http://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv-aids-101/how-you-get-hiv-aids/
Yale New Haven Hospital lock down:
http://wtnh.com/2014/10/16/yale-new-haven-hospital-health-scare/
This seems basic and isn't looking well.
It's exponential growth in real life once the virus is imbedded in any densely populated area, and in many ways, Ebola will have an easier time being transmitted in a place where the majority of the population cluster around health facilities and have easy, common access to rapid transit (personal vehicles, commercial aircraft, subways, trains, buses).
Besides, there's no herd immunity in developed nations to Ebola RNA
filovirus (there's little herd immunity outside of any place other than sub-Saharan Africa, for that matter).
Stastically, there's likely to be 5 to 8 infected yet undiagnosed people for each of the 3 thus far Ebola vectors on US soil (though I doubt it HAS only been 3 thus far).
At any rate, if so, and let's use the lower range #, that's 15 infected, NOT diagnosed nor isolation.
Now, do that math all over with the new #.
15 x 5 = 75.
75 x 5 = 375
And so on and so forth.
The incubation period and vague initial symptoms are a real problem here.
*And this assumes the level of difficulty of transmissibility the CDC is publicly proclaiming.
One last point; In a matter of a few days, regarding a virus that's been ravaging western Africa for a significant and meaningful period of time, I find it fascinating that the new, revised mortality rate has been 'upped' to 70% from 50%. Why is this? How could this hugely important statistic garnered from a now large population group of infected people change so dramatically in the last several days?
TIS, it should be evident by now that late stage Ebola is alot more contagious due to the symptoms and the opportunity for fluids to escape the host. Early stage Ebola is easier to keep contained. What happened in Dallas was a "breach of protocol". Ironically the hospital felt the need to show off and try experimental treatments (intubation and dialysis) on patient zero who later died regardless.
None of patient zero's immediate contacts became infected. The problem started when patient zero was admitted and cared for. The hospital in its medical hubris declared "war on ebola" and went at it with the crowbar.
Why are 30% to 50% of Ebola patients surviving the full course of the disease? What do their bodies develop that the other 50% to 70% can't?
no numbers from these tricksters should be believed at all. if you google around, you can find the comments of many elites and their view of population on earth, except for 2 that said 2 billion, all the rest I found said 500 million, they plan to kill billions. and install one of their own as our god king.
"Run Through The Hospital"...... by CDC on Fantasy Records. Pickup a copy today!
walküre "Ironically the hospital felt the need to show off and try experimental treatments (intubation and dialysis) on patient zero who later died regardless. None of patient zero's immediate contacts became infected. The problem started when patient zero was admitted and cared for. The hospital in its medical hubris declared "war on ebola" and went at it with the crowbar.Why are 30% to 50% of Ebola patients surviving the full course of the disease? What do their bodies develop that the other 50% to 70% can't?"
Chapter 32 in SPILLOVER (animal infections and the next human pandemic) by David Quammen talks about the SARS pandemic and what became termed "superspreaders"... contact with one specific sick man in one specific hotel (could have been any restaurant or public toilet, God help us all) infected dozens who infected hundreds who infected....well you get it. The subject was SARS, but could be ebola.
Pneumonia-like SARS caused patients to require assistance breathing, often mandating entubation; that was circa 2003. Entubation is not new or off-protocol in dire emergency cases. However, moving worsening patients from one location in hospital to another spreads infective agents, and foretelling the progress of worsening of the course of a patient's illness is a crapshoot so what's a hospital to do?
SPILOVER'S an Excellent book, scientists pursuing elusive killers around the world, a more-entertaining-than-fictional mystery. The hosts for ebola aren't just bats; suspicion is that other lower-life-form hosts exist in the African forests that remain elusive, or maybe hosts changes in cycles or there are many hosts as one time, and some microbes may require a second host for "amplification" (great apes?) before jumping to humans. Blood samples of great apes of the African forest are expensive and dangerous to acquire so not very available, stymieing science. Study advance occurred when Dr. Hahn discovered that accurate tests on great apes scat suffices thus creating many more individually-identifiable samples. Great apes are affected by ebola but are not hosts; bats may be victims of ebola not hosts but do spread disease in their dropings as they fly over peoples' crop fields and homes, and saliva when they eat and drop fruit. Like malaria, elimination of ebola probably won't be possible.
Quammen is a science writer with a sense of humor so is a good read.
What about the Ebola Vomit cleaners? Where are they today?
FEMA Camps? FEMA coffins? Who knows...
Math and logic are out of vogue, but I loved your post anyway. I'd repost my little math numbers because I think you will appreciate them.
1)
Given the number of cases, it could be a fatal mistake to make any assumptions at all about safe handling practices. There could be multiple strains out there by now.
Simple math says we experienced one new strain for every 343 cases in the past, so given 30k cases, there could be as many as 87 new strains out there. 2) Once this is widespread it's ours forever. We will face this every fall, just like the flu season, which is another RNA virus. Mutation is what RNA viruses do. We will never wipe them out. Inasmuch as each and every one of us has had the flu at least once, that 70% mortality rate really gets your attention.1976 to 2013: 1716 cases resulting in five distinct strains of ebola
2014: 10k to 30k cases, and nobody knows how many strains.
I think many here would agree that Ebola is not truly airborne. However, it seems highly likely that it is aerogenically transmitted by coughs and sneezes and other aerosol generating activities.
It depends on what one's definition of "airborne" is, though, and no, I'm not attempting sarc.
Yes, most folks include "aerosols" when they say "airborne" even though technically it is incorrect.
The operative point is that, yes, you can get Ebola by standing within a few feet of somebody barfing, shitting, flushing, being intubated, or even by the cleaning-up of contaminated fluids using normal protocols.
And it is also possible that there exists significant variability in susceptibilty between different populations.
Europeans were assisted in their conquest of the Americas by the fact the Europeans came from crowded urban locations with minimal sanitation. Due to these conditions they developed natural immunity to various forms of disease. The native Americans lived in much healthier conditions, had developed ni similar form of immunity and therefore dropped like flies with an estimated death rate close to 90%.
It is therefore a possibilty that persons in the west have a higher susceptibilty to the ebola virus.
This would tend to explain the significant infection rate amoung health care workers all of whome can be expected to have above average incomes in west africa and are therefore able to purchase a lifestyle closer to that found in the west. This inhibts contact with the prevailaing natural conditions and it also inhibits their development of a natural immunity.
The transmissibilty of Ebola amoung western populations may therefore be much higher than is found in west Africa.
I junked you free lunch, because your post is full of false information. Frieden is already giving us enough of that. You should read up on the latest info before you post garbage. Frieden should be fired and charged with reckless endangerment of others lives. Repeating his false news releases should also get you in trouble and not a free lunch. Ebola is nothing like HIV and it takes more than 48 hours to show symptoms.
Really all jews are good at is lying. It's to be expected from a Frieden.
Infected people typically don't become contagious until they develop symptoms. Family members are often infected as they care for sick relatives or prepare the dead for burial.
Medical personnel can be infected if they don't use protective gear, such as surgical masks and gloves. Medical centers in Africa are often so poor that they must reuse needles and syringes. Some of the worst Ebola epidemics have occurred because contaminated injection equipment wasn't sterilized between uses.
There's no evidence that Ebola virus or Marburg virus can be spread via insect bites.
TuPhat You're right I was wrong on one thing: it is even less dangerous then I said because it is not contagious as long as you don't develop symptons.
So it is way less dangerous then sitting next to a HIV person that sits next to you in bus or train.
But hey mister, if you want to be vaccinated with some exiperimental drug, please feel free, but I think I'll skip it as long as there is no martial law that forces me at gunpoint..
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ebola-virus/basics/causes/...
I took the exact opposite reaction to your data. Why are they wearing Hazmat suits? Because it doesn't transmit the same as HIV despite what they are telling you. How many nurses get HIV from working with HIV patients? Nearly 0.
Something odd is going on here. Way too many healthcare workers are being infected to be a coincidence.
I am not claiming to know it all, I am only giving an alternative perspective to the fear-mongering circus. Regarding HIV infected nurses I found this:
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/other/occupational.html
Re; So why would Ebola be different, remember it is less dangerous, because it outs itself within 24-48 hours!
Not sure what your agenda is but most on this site are not low info FSA types.
Get your facts straight, or go away.
Correction: the incubation period is not 48h, it's much longer 2-21 days?
Only once a person is symptomatic is the virus able to spread, the patient will die within 48 hours after showing the symptoms. So there is only this 48hours window to transmit the disease while it is obvious to everyone that you are ill.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/10/01/10-things-to-know-about-e...
But of course one can better be safe then sorry, so best avoid people with the disease, which can't be hard to do since there are so few in the USA.
JFC are you just making this shit up as you go?
Viable virus can be found in the semen of "recovered" Ebola patients for more than a month after they cease to show symptoms. All it takes is one virion to infect a host (unlike HIV which requires a jackpot btw).
"People remain infectious as long as their blood and body fluids, including semen and breast milk, contain the virus. Men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to 7 weeks after recovery from illness." http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/
Some reports indicate even longer time periods.
Of course the dead body has to be handled carefully to avoid transmitting. Sorry for not stating the obvious.
My point is, because the Ebola patient is only contagious when being sick, untill he dies within +/- 48 hours, the virus has little time and chance to spread.
Unlike other diseases that are contagious from start of infection, these are more dangerous because they are hidden during incubation period. In this time the host can go to work and attend social events..
The Ebola virus is too aggressive for it's own good, it does not work in stealth mode, it comes with bells and flash-lights in the period when it is transmittable. And then it kills it's host within 48 hours..
I am talking about the Ebola virus as it is known to science at this date..
I am no expert, I have to google for facts just like most of ZH readers, so there is always a risk of garbage in, garbage out..
JFC - RECOVERED means the patient lived. In other words some poor slob gets Ebola, develops symptoms, then gets better and stops showing any symptoms. A month later he fucks his wife or girlfriend and she can get Ebola from that exposure.
Ergo - folks can still be contagious when they are not showing symptoms. As far as being contagious before showing symptoms - it may be harder - but not impossible.
So sure we know the facts? Think again. Given the number of cases, it could be a fatal mistake to make any assumptions at all about safe handling practices. There could be multiple strains out there by now.
1976 to 2013: 1716 cases resulting in five distinct strains of ebola
Simple math says we experienced one new strain for every 343 cases in the past, so given to 10k to 30k cases, there could be anywhere between 29-87 new strains out there. You cannot derive an exact number using this method, but given the huge pool of confirmed and suspected cases, you can assume there are multiple strains. Each patient is brewing trillions of new copies of the virus, RNA virus mutations are a given, and it is happening. That's a given. Spare us your "facts." The problem is we DON'T have the facts at this point. Arrogance is another problem. Just reread your post comparing this to AIDS. Maybe you missed the difference, health care workers are not dying in the hundreds because they treated an AIDS patient, but they ARE dying from ebola, despite the very precautions you are discussing.2014: 10k to 30k cases, and nobody knows how many strains.
Q: How do you get Ebola (in Africa)?
A: Initially, from eating Tropical Bush Meat. After that: from Coughing, Sneezing, Wheezing, Intimate Contact, touching yourself, touching stuff. Just like the Flu and STDs.
Moral: Don't eat diseased/tropical bush meat, i.e. NO Oral Sex! Assume that in the tropics, all bush meat is diseased. This may also be a safe "Operating Assumption" outside the Tropics, where a person's network of prior contacts is "questionable".
E.g. When I was quite young and carefree, I ate some wild bush meat. I got a sore throat and a few other symptoms. Luckily this experience did not kill me, and prompt medical attention at the University Clinic solved the problem and I was cured. ;-)
All .gov references, nice... can you stop trying to pass the koolaid around?
@free_lunch,
you are ASSUMING and quite incorrectly I think you'll find that ebola acts the same as HIV.
well first off it does NOT. it is a MUCH more durable virus, viable out of the body for 7 or so hours(at least) HIV, is quite fragile it conks out quite quickly
recall that the bodies are considered infectious for Ebola. not the case with HIV
and this whole airborne thing is just total Bullshit. virus particles don't go flying. Spit goes flying with eboal potentially IN it.
Also, there hasn't been much said as to how many virus particle are needed to cause infection. (this is a biggy btw)
so comparing the two is pretty much silly.
not to mention the fact that it is pretty much still a deadly disease, while HIV has been rather "converted" to chronic with the right meds.
I did not know this '7 hours out of the body' stuff.
Do you have a link for this?
Still I don't like the "we must vaccinate whole countries to stop this" statements...
I don't like experimental drugs injected into my body.
I am not a medication fan, I try to avoid drugs as much as possible.
It isn't and it is.
It's not airborne as we tend to think of norovirii, with coughing, sneezing and so on as the culprit.-
But EBV afflicted often (usually) as Thomas Duncan did, experience explosive diarrhea and more importantly projectile vomiting.
Search "vomiting larry" to read, see photos of projectile vomiting or see videos on youtube.
These acts may not produce true aerosols but the do produce minute, highly infective droplets that can travel many feet.
The ENTIRE government is a huge Ponzi scam and should step down...
But whom will save us from ISIS?
(who)
Right. And it's not just the total number of cases that will change things, it's the personal perception of risk. How many TSA agents need to get infected before the rest walk off the job? How many dentists and dental hygienists need to get infected before they decide to stop digging around in people's mouths? We'll see economic disruptions well before we see a real volume of cases.
Bingo. If we get enough cases, our JIT economy will totally seize up. That in itself might be enough to stop ebola, but it would start a whole rash of other problems. The question is, how many cases is that? I don't know, but the mechanism is that enough people will say "screw that shit," and stop showing up to work. Even if our JIT economy seizing up stops ebola from spreading further, and that could happen, it will bring on a rash of other problems that are just as bad.
This is what worries me. At a certain point - as many folks could be dying from other causes due to the breakdown in systems as from Ebola (think rolling blackouts, water supply disruptions, health care systems going off-line, etc.). Watching folks reaction to just a couple of cases makes me worry that the number of cases to start causing massive disruptions is lower than most think.
CDC and this fucked up gooberment need to be held accountable for the spreading of this to American and should be considered criminally negligent for exposing the public to this. I personally believe they did it on purpose to grab more billions from the tax payers and to grab more power and control over us as well. This is just another criminal coupe against everyone's freedom and liberty.
I don't think they did it on purpose. I think they are just that arogant and stupid. "Nothing can hurt us. We're 'Merica"
Please someone post a single picture of recent Ebola death showing bleeding which is its main attribute? Strange that symptoims of Vaccine Injury are exactly like Ebola less the Hemorrahgic Discharge. I think ya'll done swallowed the cool - aid of the news spew ...
Six of one….
Recall, Bush hid the caskets returning from Iraq.
? Good call. Maybe if bummer had been in charge he wounld make the jew media show caskets on tv everynight. Oh, he is in charge and they still don't. hmm? ponder?
Surf, you may be right/wrong. I am glad you are thinking to the contrary. Because the info is coming from the gubermint, it should be considered false. Therefore, I gave you a green arrow for thinking logically.
Are you responsible for your actions or not? Accidents kill but you are still held responsible for accidents.
Unless they have some secret cure, which I doubt, they aren't spreading this on purpose. If you can't control it, there's no point.
Lies and coverups, it's what ineffective governments do. The upside is you have time to stock preps before the fear and panic take hold.
Wait until after the election.
Move along....
He is doing exactly the job he is being paid to do, saying exactly what he is being told to say. What that job is precisely, may be open for interpretation. In my opinion...
What a cunt he is - there is no other word
How unfortunate that a word like cunt can be so abused. I actualy like that part of the female anatomy.
I'd call him a cock sucker, but I have a fondness for people that actually suck mine.
But wait, this just in from Dr. Tommy Boy Frieden, the director of the CDC....."We're stopping Ebola in its tracks".
It's not travelling by train
It's travelling by water
DO NOT TAKE ANY VACCINATIONS....that is the end goal.....
I have pills to give them to cure their illnesses. They won't like them but it'll cure them quick.
Look here everyone, at the shiny, noisy, bouncing ball! /sarc
While almost everyone is looking where the Magician wants people to look, can we also look where he/they do NOT want us to look?
e.g., per my earlier post on an older ZH article Thu, 10/16/2014 - 12:41 | 5342050 new Kirk2NCC1701 (that most ZHers have moved on from),
Can we talk about how...
The US seeks to get/keep China out of Resource-rich parts of Africa (Oil, Gas, Gold, Food), and make it a Zero-Sum geographic game between them. Which is something I had posted a long time ago, when ZH showed the extent of Chinese activities in Africa. Despite multiple comments/requests from Your Truly, I have yet to see TD/ZH posting an article that shows the impact of Ebola on US and Chinese holdings & interests in Central Africa.
Q: How are Obama's 3,000 troops doing, in keeping the Oil flowing in Liberia -- a large oil supplier to the US and thus a large Petrodollar creator? Ebola + Oil + Petrodollars + Geopolitics = It's all interconnected web in a Complex System, with Intended and Unintended Consequences.
100's of years ago people had sense and quarantined off villages...now if we all don't die we are rayciss... I think I'd rather be an alive racist- if that what they want to call me.
Been spending six years building brand recognition but I think you've won the battle assfire.
I tip my soiled drawers to you!
Seriously...the difference between Dallas and all the others is that they actually reported this. The folks on NCB News...NBC news, sorry...have in all likelihood already been infected.
The whole thing is being lied about so they can get the election over with first.
First time I've agreed with a post of yours.
We only need look at Obozo's record of coverups before elections.
Ebola, Benghazi.
What difference, at this point, does it make ?
Thanks. I think.
I'm not here to be agreeable. That's for the dopes who ask for..and then receive..your stupid phucking vote.
They locked Boston now something a little bigger "D" to test. The sooner they get run to ground the better.
Still not further information about Thomas Duncan's family members that he stayed with. Why not? Are they sick and dying or healthy? No information about important events is the same as lying about it.
100s of years ago, there were no Globalist Neo/Zio-Cons, looking to take "Thou Shall Not Covet Thy Neighbor's Goods" to a global scale.
Since then, a small, hidden group of "Exceptional" and Self-Chosen people -- Tribal, Sectarian Ideologues & Zealots and Vampire Global Banksters and their army of Day Walkers and Familiars have changed everything in the last 100 years. They are beholden to no One, to no Commandment, but only to their own Creed, insatiable Lust, Need and Greed. They are the true Invasion, the true Global Epidemic.
In the 1800s we had "Manifest Destiny" in North America. Read up on it here and here, since you won't get much coverage of it in US schools -- public or private. The players and the stage & trappings have changed, but the Game is still being played. We now have Manifest Destiny 2.0 -- The Global Game.
When something so basic and vital keeps getting "messed up" over and over, then... "Do not attribute to Incompetence that which can be adequately be explained by Agenda". Questions?
The Presby fiasco is the result of the marriage of government incompetence and corporate greed. Unfortunately, Obamacare has made that into a $2 trillion behemoth. People are starting to learn that a complex system can't react to anything other than the status quo.
Kind of hard to implement an ebola protocol no one has been trained and no guidance other than a CDC web page... Although I do recognize your righteous indignation, ebola doesn't care...
Not arguing. Keeping hazmat suits in inventory in case they're needed is an "unncessary expense", per the MBAs.
Watch the African doctor school the Vice News hipster on the realities of Ebola treatment...from around 20:00 ...http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ANUI4uT3xJI
After reading your comment, I agree that the key is to rename Ebola to the "Airborne Bloody Anal Death Ebola Virus of Monstrous Sorrow".
You spelled Sorrow incorrectly.
NBC = National Bullshit Corporation
They are the government's propaganda mouthpiece
As distinguished from the globalist corporatist propaganda mouthpieces? It all looks the same to me. The mooks sing in harmony.
Rabbits, not the smartest creatures on the planet, but most likely the cutest, know that a sick rabbit is deadly to the warren. The sick rabbit is kicked out and the warren goes into save the warren regimen.
That didn't exactly work out for rabbits when myxomatosis came along, did it?
Meanwhile, over 28,000 people died in the US last year from antibiotic resistant superbugs......
We don't see much about that in the media these days.
The difference is that is kind of expected, and we know why it happens and the transmission rate isn't that great for most of them.
Ebola isn't a big deal right now, but has the potential to kill 10 times that many people in 1/10 the time if things get out of control. It's the fear of what could happen if people keep bumbling things and not taking it seriously.
'welcome to the machine'
Proctocol, bitchez!!!
There, fixed it for ya.
Tyler, is it time to let Fonz out of the penalty box?
You woulda thunk he knocked the bitch out cold on camera for this treatment.
pods
Just when everything turns to shit, and they throw out a guy who would have been having a FIELD DAY wtih thought-provoking comments about it.
It was a bad call, in my opinion. I'd turn his account back on.
I missed it. Can I get the Cliff Notes on why Fonz is on time-out?
He commented on a Ferguson thread that there were plenty of white people shot by black cops and you never hear anybody get hyped up about it, and he suggested that Tyler resembled the Huffpo in that respect. That was just the final straw for Tyler as Fonz had been agitating Tyler on stock vs flow. I guess Tyler had his girlie panties on that day in Pillow fight club (new Zero Hedge tag line trade marked by LetThemEatRand) and kicked Fonz to he front porch.
A little too truthy, huh? We'll have none of that, I guess.
Their names were Francis Sawyer and fonzannoon.
Maybe I'll have lunch at Panera today to pay homage to Fonz.
His name was Francis Sawyer.
His name was Francis Sawyer.
His name was Francis Sawyer.
His name was Francis Sawyer.
His name was Francis Sawyer.
His name was Francis Sawyer.
His name was Francis Sawyer.
If it is known that the fight club has changed leaders, how does anyone expect it to be the same? The new Tyler(s) may not have the same "fight club" mind set as the original Tyler(s).
Just wondering is all...
With sponsors like PRU, the Tylers have become less tolerant toward combat.
#sellingout
I found it surprising how so many commentators on many other sites refer to Zero Hedge, making particular note of our own commentators and the generally high caliber of content to be found therein.
WE are the ZH community and posters like Fonz will always and forevermore be held in the highest esteem.
No, that is not why fonz was banned. It was because of his opinions about whether the fed can control interest rates longterm, because it owns the market. Why this should be an item of such sensitivity, I do not know, but it also got someone named dimeshowsalesman (or something like that) banned. Fonz's posts were the best; he was/is no racist or bigot.
You're assuming that Fonz wants out of the penalty box. Sometimes a person just has to walk away in order to maintain their sanity.
Outbreak in Connecticut already.
Guaranteed.
Where do you see that?
..the voices in his head...
Bwhahahahahah. Ebola the comedy.
Very funny!
That is so true Doc, but once you take the red pill it's too late to take a blue one.
Last I checked, turning his account back on doesn't mean he has to use it. It would be his choice. Currently he has no choice.
Yup. I'm kind of envious because I waste so much time reading about things I can't do a damn thing about.
"Sometimes a person just has to walk away in order to maintain their sanity."
Red Pill or Blue Pill? Ignorance or Knowledge? Daily Bliss or Daily Anguish of Difficult Decisions?
It's not easy taking the Red Pill every day. I can relate.
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DO YOU TRUST THE GOVERNMENT TO SAVE YOU?
Latest
http://tersee.com/#!q=ebola&t=text
Mother should I trust the government ?
Contained in one of the links in the link you provided.
“'It would be horrifically unethical to say that we're just going to isolate people,' he said, noting that new strategies like handing out protective equipment to families and setting up very basic clinics - without much treatment - was a priority.”
too damned little, too damned late
Like buying Superbowl tickets the day after the game. I'm still stunned by the lack of response. I have to believe the inaction is purposely orchestrated.
I have to believe the inaction is purposely orchestrated.
Makes you wonder. These are educated people. They have been able to get to work for years. They obviously have some level of intellegince (maybe I'm wrong) so why are they acting this stupid. You just might be right.
I could ask the same question about the banksters... Up until 2007 I was laughed at when I did... They're still able to get to work years later...
There is nothing "planned" about any of this and that's exactly the problem. There were no real plans at all to deal with the spread of ebola. These so-called experts may as well admit now that "American Exceptionalism" and America's "high tech health system" WASN'T A PLAN.
The sheep are not necessarily the only ones with normalcy bias.
Yes these people are educated, but the problem is not their level of education, it is their lack of any real world experience. Most of these hacks got to where they are becasue of who they knew, not what they know or accomplished. Remember most americans vote for the guy who "looks presidential", or who they want to have a beer with. These fucking morons are nothing but used car salesmen surrounded by a bunch of losers no one ever wanted to hang out with. All these fucking idiots know how to do is deliver a pre planned speach, which is filled with action plans and how they are taking action. Problem is when the speach is over they all high five on how good the speach was and nobody actually takes any action. Picture the college professor type who graduated from college, went right into get a masters, then a phd...then straight into being a professor. Never out of the bubble actually doing anything.
every time they quarantine someone, take their temperature, whatever, they spread it. hazmat suits are designed to protect the wearer, not the patients. they want it to spread.
Yes, isolate the potential Ebola victims in huts, leave them some food or water, and check up on them in a week! if they emerge, good. You burn the hut down. If they don't, good. You burn the hut down.
What about the Ebola Vomit cleanup guys? They took a bath in it, why aren't they just sick as dogs right now?
... and you know that they are not ... or about to be?
I hear you can get fantastic seats if you do that.
I'm surprised that they are surprised. I think the average ZHer has a better grip on this than the people in charge of combatting it.
All these high and mighty goverrnment institutions suck monkey balls. Everything "surprises" them. Led by Barry "I just heard about it on the news, same as you" Obama.
Agreed. Quarantine West Africans in Washington, DC at a facility for 21 days before releasing them to the general population. Make them fly in Hazmat suits so we know who they are.
A new study suggest that incubation may be 42 days in which case many will slip thru the cracks if everyone still believes its 21. HMMMM.
And it takes one (1) to slip through the cracks to start a whole new outbreak.
A new study released two weeks ago
We are making it up as we go along.
You know, I would think the imperative to DOUBLING the monitoring/quarantining time of one of the most lethal diseases ravaging certain populations would be big news. (And that study, btw, STILL projected a 2% failure rate.
I suppose it's just another "What difference does it make?" kinda thing.
...better yet..CDC moves its Atlanta operations next to Congress. No vacations for our proud and criminal Gang of 535. Let THEM deal with ebola spew.
Criminal, yes. I'd love to get a gig working as a military contractor in Sierra Leone. Those lads are pulling in $1 million tax free in 6 months. Considered a war zone, their bank accounts are offshore. How can I sign up! They get vaccine and at least a beachfront view. Where is BuckWheat? We need him!!!
Yeah. I agree.
Set up a quarantine station in the Rotunda of the Capitol Building and one in the Senate and House Office Spaces.
Maybe the Lincoln Bedroom at the White House is available for another.
And certainly the Supreme Court has some extra space as well as the US Naval Observatory.
We can also house some at the Pentagon...and Camp David.
The Federal Reserve Bank can also house some.
We can also use some makeshift tents at the surrounding Golf Courses.
Now that will solve the problems rapidly...
The problem is like all good statists, the statists are thoroughly convinced they are infallible and have all the logical answers.
What is needed is somone with a set of cohones to say: I am assuming we know nothing about this and we will take appropriate action untill such time as the facts definitively prove otherwise.
It is becoming perfectly clear that the necessary systemic common sense on disease control does not exist at the necessary level of competence.
Some idiot though he or she knew what he or she was talking about and told that nurse it was OK to travel. That is mind boggling!
The idea that 100s of potential carriers are entering the country daily is also mind boggling.
The notion that restricting free air travel will hamper the movement of healthcare workers is a canard.
Are they moving all those workers who have been exposed to the contagion on commercial flights? Without being quarantined?
We can assume that their hollow assurances and risk assessments are subpremised on the assumption that the healthcare system (rated No 38 according to WHO) is functioning as needed, which it is most certainly not.
The hits just keep rolling in...
NoDebt "I'm surprised that they are surprised."
Quoting "news media" reports about the sinking economy every fracking day on teevee, "X said that they are surprised by today's announcement of the numbers relating to...(you name it, everything).
And it's NEVER "X said that the announcement of the numbers relating to Y did not match expectations".
Does constant and continual surprise soundslike doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?
"I knew you'd be surprised! That's why it's going right up your ... Don't fool yourself, it's going right up your..." - Zappa
When something so basic and vital keeps getting "messed up" over and over, then...
"Do not attribute to Incompetence that which can be adequately be explained by Basic Careerism and Bigger Agenda" -Kirk
Listen Zero's.
There's nothing to fear except "FEAR".
Be strong, courageous, and carry on with your workday!
Israel needs your tax payments.
OH!
Tax payments dont even buy a decent cup of coffee.
My tax payments (demanded by the govt) would make a hell of a down payment on a starbux.
Tax payments??!!! I'm not covering NFLX just yet.
Now you know what it feels like when the music stops and there are no seats left...
AIRBORNE, bitchez
They mean its in the aeroplanes, thats why they are quarantining them.
One could certainly argue if its in the airplanes....it's airborne.
It's not airborne until it jumps out of that plane and earns its wings.
Let's go straight to the man of the hour, the tower of power, too-sweet-to-be-sour himself, the hair-dyed asshole responsible for the CDCs response (or lack thereof) Dr, Tommy Boy Frieden.
I'm satisfied that he is looking at the situation very closely. I hope he gets closer.
Some succinct truthiness gold buried in the Allela, Bourry, et al. paper on Ebola and Dogs that very few actually read but very many actually misinterpreted... Too bad so many refuse to eat their vegetables or do their reading...
Some human cases in the recent outbreak in the Gabon/Republic of Congo region did not have a documented source of exposure to Ebola hemorrhagic fever. Similarly, 14 (4.9%) of the 284 cases in the 1976 Sudan outbreak (6) and 55 (17.4%) of the 316 cases during the 1995 outbreak in Kikwit (7), Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC, former Zaire), had no direct physical contact with an infected person or known infected carcass. These observations point to other routes of transmission (e.g., human-human respiratory tract infection through droplets and aerosols) or may suggest that other, unidentified animal sources may be involved in Ebola virus transmission to humans.
This is liable to bring down the government if perceptions aren't carefully managed. Once infection is widespread and everybody is panicking it will be too late to do anything about them.
President Obola's party is heading for a two year quarantine according to all the latest polls.
Trading in blue for red isn't going to change the fundamentals. Its kind of like changing one mafia boss for another. The winning mafia family will be happier maybe - they're hoping for a bigger share of the vig.
Oh but if you bathe in Ebola vomit like the Ebola Vomit cleanup guys you are OK? Care to explain?
Progressives will finally self-destruct; good riddance.
Ebola, the cure for the progressive and globalist agenda.
Nothing good ever comes from them or Africa.