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Democracy In Action
This is a riot: watch the gubernatorial debate in Florida as the two candidates have a pissing match over.............a fan. One of the candidates wanted a fan for a little bit of cooling, and the other guy insisted it was against the rules of the debate (in point of fact, the rules forbid "electronics" like, oh, say, having a personal computer or iPhone during the debate, which makes sense - - - most folks agree a small electric fan does not qualify as "electronics"). Pull up a chair, grab a Coke and popcorn, and enjoy:
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Aren't both of these douchebags Republicants ???
In the future we should just continue to let the debate moderators publicly state their personal views about everything, including the debate rules. We could call it the Candy Crowley Rule. Sniping is so much more entertaining, and besides, the majority low information voters can find out who will give them the most free stuff from the slick 30 second campaign ads which will soon be interrupting their favorite trashy TV shows.
looks as if crist is a clear winner, was given the rules, broke the rules, and swore he knew nothing about it, and gets an ovation, usa, usa, usa.
These gentlemen satisfy the criteria for being a politician, self absorbed morons.
Well..if things get out of hand there's ways a cruise ship nearby.
Being from Florida I can shed a little light on this.
Crist, pandering, prissy fucktard that he is, is so concerned with being seen sweating on camera he normally has a little fan under the podium and EVERYWHERE he goes. Anyone ever notice his "tan"? It used to be orange and just as fake as he is, he's so abnormal he didn't even want to work up a sweat getting a real tan...lol.
Scotts people knew about this little "personality disorder" of Crist (his phobia of sweating) and thats why it was in the rules of the debate, that Crist signed off on trying to be something that he's not...again.
Now, I was born and raised in Pinellas county and Crist comes from a good family, they are (or were) good people. He on the other hand is a fucking snake that will throw anyone under the bus for his own personal ambition.
More...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/16/the-truth-of-fangate-and-why-charlie-crist-absolutely-hates-to-sweat/
Who the hell would reasonably object to a fan. They knew this guy sweat alot so added the word "Fan" what a crock of shit. I think it goes way republican back, Kennedy Nixon debate where Nixon looked bad (sounded worse) cause he was sweating like a pig. So this is what our Statesman that we send to high office have morphed into School Children. Leave it to a sleazy politician to try an find an edge one as trivial as a friggin fan. Well. I'm no Fan of either one of 'em.
The time to object to the debate rules was when they were being negotiated between the parties, not after the document is signed or by breaking them.
Its rather like passing a law and then unilaterally suspending parts of it whenever you feel like it, making it something less than law.
Isn't it? ;-)
Thank you... Ditto... As with dimpled chads and hanging chads, etc... And Chad Everett...
If you agree on a ballot and sign off on the ballot, then use the flippin' ballot and quit whining...
If the words "No fan" are in the rules, then no fan permitted... If the words "No fan" is not specified in the rules and it becomes a point of contention, then get rid of it along with the lights, the microphones, the cords, the receivers, the video cameras, the overhead smoke detectors... Oh, wait... It says, "at the podium"?... My bad... Just get rid of the fan and the microphones then...
This.
Who ever owns these clowns should be ashamed.
Of course these boot licking media cunts say nothing about the Libertarian candidate Adrian Wyllie being excluded from the debate. The citizens are left with Coke or Pepsi to choose from as usual, which are only superficially different...eventually either one will rot your teeth out and give you diabetes.
More like McDonald's v. Burger King ... One has burgers that are more cellulose than meat, but good fries, and the other has passably edible grilled meat, but coats the fries with extra starch to keep them crunchy but somewhat inedible.
Which one is really the better choice?
McDonalds?... No, wait... Burger King... No, wait... I mean McDonalds... No, wait... I meant to say Burger King... Crap...
Which one has the ceiling fans again?...
I have a desk fan from the early 20's on my desk. According to Skeletor, it might be one of the first portable electronics ever created. Ebay, here I come!
Rules are rules. It's what separates us from the animals.
No Animals are animals. What separates us is fucking common sense
Even if I were to subscribe to such a doctrainaire position, the "rules" in this case forbid ELECTRONICS (which makes sense; you don't want a candidate looking up stuff on Wikipedia during the debate). A simple fan is not a piece of "electronics" any more than the light on the lectern is. They are ELECTRICAL devices.
I need to see the text to do a proper legal construction.
You have a copy of the rules?
The rule barred candidates using electronic devices. Give that a strict reading and define a fan as an electronic device and it is barred; call it an electrical device and it is questionable. Give the rule a purposive reading, e.g. it was to bar use of electronics aids like iPhones, iPads, in-ear iFB's, etc. that allow answers or information to be fed to the candidate, and the objection is laughable unless there is some greater aspect at play here.
I was in Florida last week, and Crist's ads made Scott out to be somewhat reptilian in character; if that is the case, he would have a natural advantage under the hot studio lighting, an advantage that he would not want to lose by letting Crist lose the full exposure of his Nixonian persona under the hot lights.
Should'nt the electrical light fixtures in the room be banned as well?
BTW ... "Rules are rules. It's what separates us from the animals."
You mean, like, bestiality laws? Aren't those kind of moot now that bans on same-sex marriage and even polygamy are essentially declared to be unconstitutional?
This is an extremely good demonstration of why voting is a waste of time.
These children believe that they are superior to you?
Unreal.
I may paraphrase kirk2ncc1701 a little, but as long we keep telling them they are superior to us, they will keep on believing it. (I use the term 'we' loosely as in all Americans)
Part of the problem is that we refer to them as "honorable" in a respectful way ... the idea is to refer to them as "honorable" in much the same way as Marc Antony referred to Brutus et al in the funeral oration for Caeser (Shakespearean reference).
The second part of the problem is we continue to refer to them by their highest office (President, Representative, Senator, Judge, Ambassador, Secretary, etc. ad nauseum) as if they are life-peers in the House of Lords.
It might help if we had one of their retinue (and they all have massive retinues) follow them around whispering "Remember, thou art mortal" into their ears.
truely mutha fuuking hopeless...
tired, slightly irritated and totally fed up with liars.
i avoid politics so as to remain calm.
Broward County - one foot in the grave.
And all those folks in the audience think it matters who they vote for.
Well...it is Florida.
You think Florida is bad?... Head on out to California... I hear it's a dry heat... BS drys out quick and doesn't smell so bad after a while...
Saw this on the telebision last night. All I could think of was Crist was standing there in a suit with a fan blowing on his nuts....like, he was getting off on it or sumthin'.
this is florida, afterall. the state elected a convicted criminal for governor, a criminal convicted of fraud. on the one hand, it could be said scott is the perfect politician with the necessary skills. one the other hand, is florida really populated with that many people from the bottom half of the class that they see nothing wrong with him?
Reminds me of Washington D.C. and Marion Barry back in the day.
"is florida really populated with that many people from the bottom half of the class that they see nothing wrong with him?"
I work in a technical, yet blue collar, job in central Florida. The typical customer I deal with every day is a bit lower in intellect than your typical house plant. Make no mistake, Florida is the armpit of the South. And that's coming from a guy born in rural Alabama.
Your Clinicians are a bit unusual too. Not nasty / incompetent, but certainly "different". Highly entertaining once "under the influence" though.
VERY "Wild West" if you get my drift!
I will bet that some handler got his ass burned and lossed his job due to this little fubar florida style!
Lossed his job - WTF
... SDuck must be from Florida himself.
Don't you see it all the time with "lose" and "loose", or "loser" and "looser". The first spelling correct regarding misplacing an object, and the second set who is the winner or not, first spelling correct. But wait! if you double a teacher's salary, your kid will be twice as smart, right?
Q. How much contempt do your elected officials hold you in?
Oh...I'd say that is about the same measure that I have contempt and disrespect for them...
You know...the shit really did hit the fan at that debate...
The figure is vast. Vast, I tell you.
And I will add: I see the same all around the world. The problem is not one of nations or peoples, but of elected officials.
...but then... The problem is one of peoples...
When sociopaths collide.
An American, not US subject.
"Note to self: Install a fan on the guillotine platform."
They are both idiot jerk offs
Florida is a state with a very lost population.
Only the best and brightest....
It is the illusion of choice. Turd versus douchebag, over and over and over.
Human cock fighting as a circus to distract. Do you really think any of these choices are going to change anything?
I wonder why the Libertarian with 12%+ polling wasn't invited... o ya...
its an embarrasment to see this in what used to be our republic...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWojvo6RKoQ