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Sat, 10/18/2014 - 16:41 | 5350867 Cognitive Dissonance
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Orwell presented a guide, not a blueprint. Present day reality is in some ways far for shocking than his book.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 16:42 | 5350869 Truther
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Still..... He warned. but the Sheeple were too busy grazin'

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 16:46 | 5350873 markmotive
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Who said Orwell was wrong?

16 Reasons to Listen to George Orwell

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/06/16-reasons-you-should-listen-to-ge...

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:49 | 5350975 AlaricBalth
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Mark. You must be channelling Mike Snyder.
;-)

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 18:02 | 5351001 I am more equal...
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"The best place to hide something from a fool is to put it in a book"

Well then.  That explains society today.  Must twitter that fact......

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 19:00 | 5351132 Latina Lover
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Orwell knew what was to be because of his connections to the Fabian Society.  Mass surveilance was planned decades ago. All we needed was a phone war on terror to frighten the sheeple out of their rights..

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 19:57 | 5351233 Anusocracy
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Same as it ever was.

In our ancestral tribal societies, they continually fought other tribes, the alpha-male surveilled the others to make sure they weren't doing anything he disapproved of, and he used violence and threats of violence to get his way.

Welcome to 100,000 BC.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 21:13 | 5351275 ZerOhead
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That behaviour is identical to what we see in gorilla and chimpanzee societies.

The aggressive Alpha male gets all the chicks and first dibs on all resources... although a focused psychopath (even suffering from low testosterone) could give an Alpha a good run for the money every now and then...

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 22:23 | 5351566 Anusocracy
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The apple doesn't fall very far from the tree.

People may self-identify as human but almost all are still animals.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 23:23 | 5351666 Skateboarder
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"Human" is a state of consicousness encapsulated by all the ideals of man's place in the cosmos. Any man is able to sustain being "human" for a time period. For some, that time period is seconds in a day. Others prove themselves to be "human" with every second of their breath, as long as they live.

The point is, it is a choice to be "human," and everyone has to make that choice and prove their worth every moment. By "worth," I certainly don't mean it in the "he's worth X billion dollars" sense that too many have been programmed to entertain.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 09:07 | 5352030 GetZeeGold
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If the South is actually going to rise again.....now might be a good time.

 

Just hold the slavery this time.....we've already got that.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 14:04 | 5352736 The9thDoctor
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George Orwell was SPOT ON with the date 1984

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 20:12 | 5353633 mickeyman
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He wrote it in 1948 - - perhaps you remember, that was when all of a sudden Russia and China became our enemies, and Germany and Japan (former enemies) became our best friends. And it all happened in the blink of an eye.

And now they've always been our enemies. On a TV special celebrating an anniversary of the D-Day invasion, they edited Eisenhower's speech to remove "our Russian allies" because it might confuse the television audience.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 13:04 | 5352596 Anusocracy
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Mostly agree but a person's choice to be human is about as fickle as a person's choice to lose weight.

Repeated attempts and repeated failures because it's pretty much outside their control.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 10:39 | 5352200 Moski
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Nope.  The chicks get all the males they want.  Big Daddy ain't all that.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 13:06 | 5352604 Anusocracy
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It is the most physically fit - the alpha-male.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 02:07 | 5351813 joe90
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Yes and the slightly nutty one would wander off into the dark by himself muttering about imagined and real slights, and would dream up ways of getting back at the tribe, on his return he would start his story with "guess what I have seen" and to his amazement they hung onto every word he said, the scarier and more surreal the better, and so religion was born.  The Alpha male didn't really mind because he learned how to use the nutter for control and extract resources.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:13 | 5353319 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Just watch "The Unbearable Truth - Christianity Is A Lie".

Just watch it and ALL the debates about the great invisible grey bearded skyman will all go away.

It's rebranded Paganism and in reality we have never progressed past worshipping the sun, the true giver of life. Mind, humans propensity to worship a big ball of hydrogen is still deeply mysterious. WHY, why do we feel the need?

The stories, the myths, the miracles, the timelines, the unbearable truth is so many people have fallen hook line and sinker. So many gullible and unthinking people. It is deeply disturbing and brings into any thinking persons mind our ability for long term survival.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 21:49 | 5351495 puckles
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Orwell knew what he did because he had, in his youth, become a fully fledged Communist--which he later recanted, after realizing what horrors it would eventually entail. The Fabians were a minor event in his life, albeit perhaps a precipitating one.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 23:45 | 5351695 sylviasays
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While at Eaton, Orwell was taught French by Aldous Huxley, the author of ‘Brave New World’ who introduced Orwell to the Fabian Society which was instrumental in establishing the Labour Party in Britain.  Influenced by Keynesian economics, the Labour Party wanted government intervention in the economy, a welfare state including publicly funded healthcare, and the redistribution of wealth by taxation. Orwell's book was an expose of the Fabian Society's globalist socialist agenda. 

http://conspiracytruths.co.uk/georgeorwell1984.html

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2013/03/aldous-huxley-letter-t...

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 03:14 | 5351839 Confused
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Hmmm. And then what of Huxley? 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 15:21 | 5352899 Tall Tom
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Both 1984 and Brave New World had people that were not directly involved in the Political Sphere of the system. After all Winston was a Party Member. That is what they do to those whom attempt to change it from within.

 

I think that if you added in Hunger Games into the mix then you'd get an idea of the dystopia of where we are at and to where we are headed.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 02:50 | 5351832 Oracle 911
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OT: Latina seriously, can you please put a link to your avatar picture?

I'm just curious what it is, it shows less details then the previous one that with a model or that with a vaginal orifice.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 20:43 | 5351327 ZerOhead
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We're not trolls are we?... tell me we're not trolls...

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 21:19 | 5351429 VAD
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They'll call it "terrorism" and prosecute accordingly.  

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 01:27 | 5351793 Real Estate Geek
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Listen to Mr. Optimist here, thinking that they'd prosecute instead of just torturing 'em indefinitely without charge.  (In my book, being driven slowly insane by months and years of solitary confinement in a super-max sure-as-shit qualifies as torture.)

 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 09:23 | 5352060 GetZeeGold
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Internet trolls face up to two years in jail under new laws

 

Where can I sign up for that?

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 21:33 | 5351458 casfoto
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No.......you are prolls.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 22:03 | 5351528 Keyser
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One man's troll is another man's freedom fighter... 

 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 11:01 | 5352250 pgroup
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We're not trolls. However, we aren't sure about you. :)

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 10:03 | 5352125 Dapper Dan
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I wonder if they will send us a list of the words and sayings we cannot type and send over the internet.

 

Long live George Carlin.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 13:35 | 5352660 Squiddly Diddly
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FTW, November 7, 2001, 1200 PST (Revised Jan. 21,2002) - There's a quote often attributed to Allen Dulles ........the Warren Commission member who took charge of the investigation and final report - is reported to have said, "The American people don't read."

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/zbig.html

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 15:15 | 5352877 HardAssets
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I am more equal :

"The best place to hide something from a fool is to put it in a book"

That explains it - -

given that the vast majority of Americans don't read a single serious book after leaving high school or college.

It's so easy to enslave a population of ignorant fools.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 16:45 | 5350875 Ineverslice
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just give me a gin.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 23:00 | 5351624 bid the soldier...
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did you mean a Victory Gin?

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 21:09 | 5353745 astroloungers
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with clove

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 20:23 | 5353668 mickeyman
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and a tonic?

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 16:54 | 5350890 Sudden Debt
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To bad Orwell didn't predict death of the internet by FUCKING CONSTANT POPUP'S!!!

I've had 300 times the same popup here that blocks everything!

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:08 | 5350907 Hulk
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I haven't had a constant popup since high skoo...

///let the fucking Belgians figure that one out...

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:43 | 5350962 New_Meat
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greenie on ya greenie!

Must be all of that legalized herb.  SD will be confused but won't really give a shit.*

Here in the Commonwealth, after all of the talk that the bud don't mess up u mind, we now have a situation where the Joksterz accomplice is claiming that he didn't know wtf he was doing because he was in a constant state of buzz.

- Ned

(*I used to worry about too much apathy, but now I just don't care.)

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 18:59 | 5351122 q99x2
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Dude you need to jog more. Or maybe go back to college. I'm not sure what brought the problem back.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 19:04 | 5351135 Hulk
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You must be from Belgium...

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 22:13 | 5351543 espirit
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Hulk, you are good.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 15:19 | 5352892 Hulk
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Merci Beaucoup !!!

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 20:00 | 5351240 philipat
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Switch on Popup blocker and install Adblock Plus for your browser. No more Popups or Ads.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 21:57 | 5351518 gmrpeabody
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Amen, brother..., why don't they get it?

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 11:04 | 5352257 pgroup
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Uh, Adblock is for Firefox. If he/she isn't told to use Firefox, then he/she is being sadistically tortured trying to figure out how to make Adblock work on Opera or Chrome.

Sick tormenters!

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 11:33 | 5352303 Jack Sheet
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good luck trying that with an apple or android mobile device.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 18:49 | 5351103 FeralSerf
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Turn off Javascript.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 11:37 | 5352314 Jack Sheet
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try that on an ipad or android tablet. good luck to you.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 18:54 | 5351113 fedupwhiteguy
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HA hA!!!! two solutions = AdBlock & Ghostery

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 11:34 | 5352307 Jack Sheet
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not for mobile devices.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 18:59 | 5351128 JimmyRainbow
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well, 300 popups sounds like excel hell 2

"lightly used sex dolls" ad "tonight we will rip your dick off" amongst the popups?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=541e3RC3cvc

 

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 21:25 | 5351444 effendi
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SD, you should have never clicked on that viagra ad (even if it was only for shits and giggles).

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 11:40 | 5352322 Jack Sheet
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Since ios8 and Android 4.2.2, popup and adblockers on tablets and mobile phones have been effectively disabled. Stuff like weblock might work in a wifi environment but not on cellular.
Fact is, Apple, Google, the advertisers, and websites like this one selling ad space know much better than you what your optimal browsing experience is.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 13:22 | 5352633 ILLILLILLI
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AdBlockPlus, dood.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 16:55 | 5350891 PoliticalRefuge...
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..what's that- I mean how are the Bronco's doing?

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 21:51 | 5351505 MontgomeryScott
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Boise State, Denver, or Ford?

 

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 18:10 | 5351022 Radical Marijuana
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At what point were the People ever actually able to prevent themselves from being reduced to Zombie Sheeple? The methods applied against them were those of organized crime. Any politicians that might have been their champions were discredited and destroyed, with the most extreme cases being assassinated. At what point are those who were selected by real history to become the best at being dishonest and backing that up with violence ever able to be stopped by those who were not?

The oldest book on the Art of War starts by saying that "success in war is based on deceits," and ends by saying that "spies are the most important soldiers." That also applies to the ways that the ruling classed controlled those that they ruled over. EVEN IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE SHEEPLE THAT WAKES UP TO THE REAL SOCIAL FACTS, WHAT CAN YOU ACTUALLY DO ABOUT THOSE? You are still up against a group which are collectively a gang of trillionaire mass murderers. There is no way for people who have to work for their money to compete with those who can legally make their money out of nothing. The funding of the political processes are already totally lopsided, to a ratio of more than 100 to 1.

While there is NO doubt that the vast majority of "We the People" have been reduced to "Zombie Sheeple," behind that was the best scientific brainwashing that money could by, as well as domination of the funding of the public school systems, to capture control over those, as well as acquiring more concentrated control over the mass media. Within established systems of legalized lies backed by legalized violence, social success comes from working within those systems, by being the best professional liars and immaculate hypocrites. For generation after generation, people have been rewarded for agreeing with lies, while punished for not agreeing with lies.

The full range of social control techniques have been deployed, from those associated with George Orwell, to those associated with Aldous Huxley. For those who learn more about that, it really only becomes more tragic, because there is still nothing practically possible to prevent each short-term increment of backing up lies with violence to successfully control civilization. Of course, the more you know, the worse it gets, because it becomes clearer that the entrenched social systems based on enforcing frauds have been getting worse, faster. However, that paradoxical final failure from too much success at controlling civilization with lies and violence can not prevent that from still happening.

The paradoxical ways that successfully controlling civilization through backing up lies with violence eventually drives that civilization to become criminally insane, and madly self-destructive, never are enough to prevent that from happening anyway. The social situation is that only controlled opposition is publicly significant. Almost all the opposition to the established systems are merely Black Sheeple, who try to awaken the other Sheeple, but only then to try to lead them backwards to the same old impossible ideals, which always make the opposite things happen in the real world. Any genuine opposition tends to suffer from the ways that the Art of War is applied, namely deceits and treachery withing their own groups, to subvert them.

Furthermore, and on a more profound level, there is no genuine opposition which becomes publicly significant that faces the deeper reasons how and why the operating of human systems of the principles and methods of organized crime merged so totally together throughout human history. The human social pyramid systems have become more sophisticated social slavery systems, wherein those who survived being slaves adapted to believe in bullshit, to the degree that they want to continue to believe in bullshit.

It is obvious to me from reading Zero Hedge that almost every article, and most of the comments, are written by a range of reactionary revolutionaries, or Black Sheeple. There is not much sympathy for the devil. There is not much acceptance of the deeper reasons why money is measurement backed by murder, or that all private property is based on backing up claims with coercions. Instead, there are a lot of superficial false fundamental dichotomies, and the related impossible ideals, advanced as the bogus "solutions" to the runaway problems that the social pyramid systems have been getting worse at an exponential rate, with the basic debt slavery having created numbers which are debt insanities, while the wars based on deceits which back up those systems become even more so!

Various artistic works, such as those by George Orwell, only "warned" on a superficial level, while there is not doubt that the majority of the people continued as "the Sheeple were too busy grazin' ..."  For those who had more intelligence, information, and imagination, it was painfully obvious that things were getting worse, faster, at an exponential rate. However, there continued to never be any point in that process where it was practically possible to prevent that from happening.

Our political economy is fundamentally based on enforced frauds, which are collective criminal insanities. HOWEVER, THERE ARE NO PRACTICAL POLITICAL WAYS THAT CAN BE "STOPPED." The deeper problems are that there must necessarily be some death controls, and those back up the debt controls. THERE ARE NO WAYS THAT DEATH CONTROLS CAN BE "STOPPED." The history of successful warfare based on backing up deceits with destruction segued to become economics based on enforced frauds. However, those established systems as a whole are totally unable to face those facts on any deeper levels regarding how and why those ARE the real facts. The only genuine solutions would be better death controls. However, the established systems are based on doing the real death controls through the maximum possible deceits, while the controlled opposition to those systems stay within that same deceitful frame of reference regarding their basic understanding of the death controls.

I REPEAT:

The deepest of the profound paradoxes are that the necessary death controls were actually done through the maximum possible deceits, and that included the controlled opposition agreeing to stay within the same frame of reference regarding those deceits. Hence, the chronic political problems have generated human social systems wherein the people who metaphorically act like Vicious Wolves, and their more Domesticated Dogs, to herd the masses of Zombie Sheeple, tend to only be opposed by Black Sheeple, whose "solutions" are to recommend that everyone should become better Sheeple. However, actually, the only genuine solutions would be for everyone to become better Wolves, in the sense of everyone taking more responsibility for the roles of the predator/parasites inside of the human ecology/economy. Of course, that is NOT what happens. Instead, the people who are the productive/prey are taught to operate inside of the biggest bullies' bullshit frame of reference regarding the death controls, which were most successfully done through the maximum possible deceits so much, for so long, that all of the controlled opposition groups also operate within the same basic frame of reference regarding almost absolutely deceitful ideals about death controls. All of the old-fashioned religions and ideologies tend to be various sorts of controlled opposition of those kinds.

Again, that is why there was never any way that the masses of Sheeple could effectively respond to the real social facts, because most of those attempting to wake them up to those real social facts are then short-circuiting to the promotion of impossible ideals, which always backfire badly. The Black Sheeple are NOT trying to promote better death control systems, but rather, tend to promote the various impossible ideals that there ought not be any such death controls, or at least none that human beings are consciously aware of.

The overall theoretical challenge we face is whether progress in science and technology can be realized in social sciences, such as political science. The problem with doing that is it MUST regard the death controls there as necessarily central to everything else. However, that then automatically runs into a head-on collision with the social facts that the actual death controls are being done through the maximum possible deceits, while all the publicly significant controlled opposition agrees to continue to also operate within that frame of reference. Of course, those deceitful death controls were the foundation for the political economy to become based on enforced frauds, and therefore, everyone is totally entangled in that now!

I REPEAT AGAIN:

THE BASIC PROBLEM CONTINUES TO BE THAT THE HISTORY OF WARFARE SELECTED FOR THE MOST SUCCESSFUL DEATH CONTROLS TO BE DONE THROUGH THE MAXIMUM POSSIBLE DECEITS AND TREACHERIES, WHICH IS HOW AND WHY THE GOVERNMENT ENDED UP BECOMING THE BIGGEST FORM OF ORGANIZED CRIME, CONTROLLED BY THE BEST ORGANIZED GANG OF CRIMINALS.

While that problem continues to automatically get worse, faster, at an exponentially accelerating rate, which results in civilization becoming more and more criminally insane, and madly self-destructive, the chances of enough Sheeple waking up enough to become better Wolves appear to be practically zero, for an abundance of reasons, not the least of which are that most of the controlled opposition groups are merely Black Sheeple, who provide relatively good analysis of the problems, only then to collapse back to bullshit solutions, based on false fundamental dichotomies and their related impossible ideals.

The tragic conclusion to the FACTS that what was warned about in the novel 1984 has become true in even worse ways in 2014, while what was warned about in Brave New World, is also on the way to becoming true in even worse ways in the foreseeable future too, is that there is NO practical way to stop the runaway debt insanities from provoking death insanities. There is no hope to wake up enough of the Sheeple to become not only more aware of the Wolves, but then also able to actually do what the Wolves did better than those Wolves are doing it.

The only things that appear in the news are more turns of the spirals of backing up lies with violence becoming ever more criminally insane in their consequences. The few bright lights of news about some real creative alternatives being developed are actually still being drowned out and strangled to death by the established systems of enforced frauds which dominate everything. While there are surely plenty of creative alternatives, which theoretically could be assembled into better systems, NONE of those have a hope in hell without there being the most crucial alternative death controls to connect them within.

The problem with artistic works that illustrated the nature of the political problems is that they have done so with poetic license regarding those. They are revealing the various ways that the sliding scales of the manifestations of deceitful death controls, and treacherous spies, are controlling what happens. However, those kinds of artistic works almost never face the deeper reasons for why there were death controls in the first place. Therefore, they tend to not bother to be realistic about better solutions. Indeed, I guess that makes sense, because the human experiment now looks like a terminally insane situation. Unless we could go through sufficient intellectual scientific revolutions regarding our understanding of human ecology, then the currently established kinds of human ecologies, operating through the maximum possible deceits and frauds, through ways that are becoming madder and MADDER, then the future of human civilization must be controlled by the consequences of that criminal insanity.

Orwell was only wrong about the date, as well as grossly underestimated and understated how bad things were eventually going to get, due to that tragic trajectory of what he described playing through over a longer time ... Nothing less than a series of political miracles could mitigate that, or assist with recovery after that. However, the central core to such a prodigious series of political miracles would have to be political science better understanding the role of the real death controls in the real human ecology. Of course, doing that requires changes in the ways that people think which make all previous paradigm shifts in other sciences look like relatively nothing in comparison.

We keep on witnesses the situation of the development of apes with atomic bombs, backing up electronic monkey money, where the contradictions between the basic changes in the physical sciences there having nothing whatsoever comparable in the political sciences. I like to believe that such changes in the ways that we think are theoretically possible. However, there are no apparent practical ways to achieve those transformation which are not first overwhelmed by the previously established systems of enforced frauds driving through their debt insanities to become death insanities.

In my view, Orwell was on the right track with his analysis of the social insanities that would develop, due to the control of civilization through backing up lies with violence playing on through. However, I do not think he imagined and integrated the overall context of Peak Insanities that would eventually be manifesting, where the runaway social polarization is eventually trumped by the destruction of the natural world. Indeed, I do not think we have reach peak social insanity yet ... However, it is clear that the ways that civilization is trapped inside spirals of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, driving enforced frauds to become madder and MADDER are becoming more painfully obvious every day ... despite that the masses muppets, or mainstream morons, continue to mostly still appear to be "Sheeple ... too busy grazin' ...

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 18:24 | 5351051 ISEEIT
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Fucking Beautiful.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 22:01 | 5351527 gmrpeabody
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Yes..., a cut-n-paste work of art...

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 04:49 | 5351879 barre-de-rire
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you lost me at "ppl working for their money cant fight againt em"

 

just to say, if nobody work and use money  how the rich can speculate on new goods... they only turn against each others.

 

for years i say now, solution is global off grid, return to proxy markets, own crafting and reel economy.

 

nobody understand  simple fact that all is digitalized these days, the day the grid shut down, it is fucking hell on hearth.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 18:30 | 5351064 asmod
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thank you for this

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 19:12 | 5351159 Aaronson.Jones....
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Thanks. Well put. It does become tragic, it plagues you day & night.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 20:10 | 5351262 Reaper
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The operative mechanism is that the sheeple crave a king. Three thousand years ago, the Israeli sheeple demanded that Samuel/God give them a king. Even after a warning from Samuel/God against a king, the then sheeple still demanded a king. Two thousand years, the Roman sheeple destroyed their Republic, because they wanted a Caesar. A craving is not satisfied by thinking or lectures from a soap box. The sheeple always hope that their next champion will act for their good. Two hundred years ago, the French king was replaced by the Committee and the Committee was replaced by Napoleon. The sheeple have never overcome their craving for the good king.

Some humans by nature do not follow the herd. By Nature's present design, we have human sheeple and human loners. Trust is the innate vice of a sheeple. They fear to think. To destroy, subvert or exist outside the system, the loners oppose the system and exist/profit from in the resulting chaos.

Doubt is the eternal enemy of trust. The fantasy for almost all is that there's some universal moral code that ought be obeyed. Perhaps that long sought good king will be created by Nature, but I doubt and will not trust.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 01:54 | 5351796 RichardParker
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On an individual level it comes down to this;

Rule, or be ruled.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 21:05 | 5351388 MoneyMonkey
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Holy shit. I hope you're paid by the word! :)

Rant ON my brother!!

+1000

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 21:06 | 5351394 Colone
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I have to read this again, but non-the less great insight.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 21:14 | 5351411 ThankYouSatan
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Still a bit long winded and repetitive. Point taken though

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 22:03 | 5351530 PT
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Short summary of RM's comment:  Murder and lies.

But now the summary is too short to do his insight justice.  Somewhere through reading his comments you get to understand the enormity of the murders and the saturation of the lies.

A better summary:  Murder systems backed by propaganda, deceits, fraud and lies.  (Which can still be boiled down to murder and lies but now it helps emphasize a few mechanisms).

I knew that systems could not be trusted to be implemented as advertised.  To me, RM's point of "Murder backed by lies" was the final piece of the puzzle.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 01:12 | 5351782 ebear
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a bit?

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 21:38 | 5351469 VAD
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" spirals of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, driving enforced frauds"

 

Somtimes, I think I'm the only one in my circle of friends and acquaintances who gets it.  Occassionally, I see or hear a glimmer of hope from someone, but it usually fizzles pretty quickly.  It makes me too sad to think about it much.  Not being nearly as eloquent as you, I rarely say anything....but I do find solace in knowing.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 22:22 | 5351563 MontgomeryScott
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Stick around a little longer here, kid.

Poets and authors and artists and freedom loving patriots from all nations and GREAT THINKERS once in a while make their appearances on the ZH.

Personally, he's to long-fucking winded in my opinion, but his statements are not altogether wrong (it's difficult to wade through, after the second 'to re-state again;' thingies).

Too much 'legalized marijuana', I suppose. Marijuana is in a class of drugs that distort the time-space continuum (they call it an 'hallucenigetic' drug, or 'class two'). He goes on, and on, and ON, and ON AND ON, trying to make the same fucking point. Quite boring, in fact, to me personally. Superficial, but trying to appear 'deep', usually. What he states is correct, but the harping of the point again and again distracts from the initial purpose.

NO PROGRESSION from his SINGLE-SENTENCED STATEMENT is apparant. There's NO 'NATURAL FLOW', and no point that he seems to have; besides that of his 'flash of brilliance' in the dim room of his medicated mind.

No answers are apparent, and no new knowledge is imparted to those that are truly enlightened beyond the veil of the paradigm of false control.

Just 'my' opinion.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUjUIP2ugG4

 

Have you ever heard the truths about the HSBC 'Opium Dens' that they set up in China in the 1870's? Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Cartel?

 

 

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 22:50 | 5351611 MontgomeryScott
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Well, if the downarrowers are here, they don't have the guts to reply in honest argument.

Is it the mention of the true meaning of the 'HSBC' acronym?

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 23:40 | 5351690 goldsaver
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Well, Monty old boy, I must have you proof read my stuff before publishing. You Sir are succinct and vicious. Bravo.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 01:14 | 5351783 sandhillexit
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I do know that the Chinese in Calif. refuse to do business with them, so, for years they tried to use Wells Fargo as a go-between.  Didn't work really. The Chinese are very proud and pretty contemptuous of HSBC.  Feng Shui of official buildings in Hong Kong designed to drive a stake through their heart. 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 02:12 | 5351821 aka_ces
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MS, try Hegel, all the more amazing, for likely reefer-less  ;)

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 22:24 | 5351567 Keyser
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Anyone that is awake and cognizant to what is actually happening cannot convey this knowledge to the uninitiated as you come off as a nut job... All you can do is point people in a direction and hope they seek knowledge... 

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 22:43 | 5351602 MontgomeryScott
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The responsibility taken on by those who choose to be 'watchmen on the wall' comes with a price if they don't warn the people and sound the alarm. Does it matter if the people you warn call you a 'nut job'? All you can do is continue to warn those who 'would' listen, and hope that the warnings will be heeded.

If you don't have the intestinal fortitude to carry on with your part of the promise, though, there is forgiveness.

Don't lose the hope.

NEVER SURRENDER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsvPuZalcWE

 

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 23:47 | 5351698 Keyser
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Here is an anecdotal experience from just yesterday... I was in a meeting with several co-workers that I have known for over a decade... We were chatting prior to getting the meeting started and the topic of ebola came up and whether it could vector to airborne... I told them that ebola is airborne and that this was first discovered in 2012... They challenged this statement with their proof being that Obama, the CDC and the MSM all saying that it is not airborne... They then asked if all of these entities were lying and I said yes... Either they are mis-informed or that they are complicit... There you go, I'm a nut job... It didn't matter that I was stating fact and not conspiracy theory, I was advocating something outside their belief system, challenging their trust in the matrix... 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 12:53 | 5352552 TVP
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Think for yourself and be ostracized.  Such is the way of the sheeple.

 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 01:16 | 5351787 ebear
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"All you can do is point people in a direction and hope they seek knowledge... "

Or you could hit them over the head with it, over and over and over again ad nauseam.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 09:12 | 5352042 sleigher
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Hitting someone over the head, with a chair or with the truth, tends to show the same response.  They don't like being hit over the head and position themselves in a way to not be hit over the head.  The smarter ones wonder why they are being hit though.  

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 10:43 | 5352207 insanelysane
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I first fully understood this phenomena with the conclusion of the Clinton-Lewinsky affair.  A large number of sheeple believed Clinton when he looked into the camera and said he didn't have sex with that woman.  It became a fact for them regardless of all the circumstantial evidence.  Surely the elderly office manager couldn't be lying.  Surely the strong first lady couldn't be lying.  And then the dress showed up.  Irrefutable evidence and then a confession.  The believers just got angrier at the truth tellers.  It would seem that people are strongly wired to never admit that they are wrong.  This has major implications since it retards the learning process and it also means that they will take great lengths to keep the myths going even when they realize that a myth is actually a myth.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 13:35 | 5352662 bid the soldier...
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Play it again, Sam

AS TIME GOES BY


You must remember thyth

A myth is still a myth

A lie is still a lie

The fundamental things apply

As time goes by.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 22:34 | 5351589 livefreediefree
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Radical MJ,

In one word or less, could you summarize your article? One slight addt'l fillip: No articles, gerunds, or adverbs permitted.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 22:45 | 5351607 MontgomeryScott
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Um...

'FUC#@&'?

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 23:02 | 5351619 bid the soldier...
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Don't despair, RM

The tragic conclusion to the FACTS that what was warned about in the novel 1984 has become truein even worse ways in 2014, while what was warned about in Brave New World, is also on the way to becoming true in even worse ways in the foreseeable future too

You're unsettled, perhaps alarmed, at the increase of the criminally insane and their control of our lives.


"Is this a spike I see before me?"

No, it is just the head of a head and shoulders top.  WWII was the left shoulder and now we're witnessing the formation of the head.

Soon Malthusian liquidation and selling.  Capitulation.

And happy camping until the piece-of-cake 'right shoulder', but I should be gone by then.

All's well that ends well

 

if the outcome of a situation is happy, this compensates for any previous difficulty or unpleasantness.
Sat, 10/18/2014 - 19:27 | 5351190 Bossman1967
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and to think it was mandatory reading in 1983 high school. my teacher said we were headed that way and now look at this country. unrecognizable

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 22:24 | 5351571 MontgomeryScott
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1977, English 2 (honors), 10th grade.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 20:16 | 5351277 Gazooks
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@Truther 'Still..... He warned.'

 

No, not warned, reveled. Like the good sociopath that he was.

 

Like Huxley, a sick fuck with intelligence affiliation and agenda.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 12:50 | 5352091 rainingFrogs
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Everyone thinks 1984 is a work of fiction.  Little do we realize that Orwell was from the future, sent back to warn us.  1984 is, in fact, an accurate account of the future Orwell came from, but not necessarily the one we are destined for.  Terminator got him, however.  That may well have doomed us for that future. 

To further manage the path to that particular future, they* have sent back a bunch of cyranoids** whom have been placed in positions of power and influence. 

"Them" have also sent back powerful surveillance technology to watch our every move. This spyware is engineered with highly advanced psychotropic properties that hopelessly addict the user.  So even if the user becomes aware of being under perpetual surveillance, s/he is unable to resist, and, in fact willingly submits to further mind control.

Them walk among us.  Trust no one. 

Of course, we are screwed now that the future has been secured, because we failed to act on Orwell's warning.  So, just carry on and watch it unfold.

Have a nice future 8^)

* actually it would be more accurate to call "they" "Them," as Them are the mysterious operators we always suspect are manipulating things behind the scenes, mostly in what we call the "Deep State"

** Cyranoids are people who do not speak thoughts originating in their own central nervous system. Rather, the words they speak originate in the mind of another person (or sentient being) who transmits the words to the cyranoid by some form of wireless transmission.  Them have been working on an app, or more accurately a virus, that will infect the user of a mobile device or smart phone after prolonged staring into the devices screen.  Once the app is uploaded into the persons memory, that person would effectively become a cyranoid, unable to act on their own ideas. Rumour hs it that the app is presently in beta on some Android and iOS devices.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 20:16 | 5353642 StupidEarthlings
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To  be clear.. (for thos who most likely missed it again)..orwell wasnt so much predicti g the future..as much as telling how fucked up things were. .EVEN IN HIS TIME..only the technology wasnt quite ther yet. The desire most certainly was. As has been pointed out in past. But again..today..as in orwells day..most of the fools dont /wont get it.

 

YOU WERE BORN FOR A REASON. Dont act all fuckin surprised as people have been explainig it to you for years.

It absolutely amazes me that people though he had a vision..well yea I guess he guessed the tech before it was available.  But the desire for control was always there. 

 

I fuckin giv up.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 16:46 | 5350874 One And Only
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I agree. We're experiencing something worse.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 16:49 | 5350877 El Oregonian
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George Orwell, like Orson Wells, like Jules Verne, like the rest of the Secret Society slaves, all have some knowledge but only what the evil one reveals to them.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 18:27 | 5351058 arby63
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Evil rules the world. No doubt about it.

Question is, who brings such evil? Now that is a good question.

I often think that what is going on in the world today is far beyond our ability to understand.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 20:31 | 5351303 Terminus C
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"Evil" as we like to call it, doesn't exist as our fabels try to tell us.  The system of life is inherently "evil" as our survival only happens through the destruction of another living being.  To enhance and improve our chances of survival living beings that can destroy (read: consume) more and varied life forms, until, of course, there is over consumption... which then destroys the consumer. 

We are in the over consumption phase of our life form.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 12:00 | 5352367 juangrande
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True, like a virus. But the difference might be that the virus doesn't know it's a virus. We have that capacity, albeit mightily under utilized.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 16:57 | 5350897 debtor of last ...
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Zerohedge presented a guide, not a blueprint. Present day reality is in some ways far more shocking than this book.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 18:18 | 5351035 Sudden Debt
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Children of men is a good guide, it also talks about a 2008 pandemic
And mission impossible 2 is about Chimera, a labratory made virus brought into the public to... Well money actually, the the biggest motif in the world.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 19:06 | 5351143 silverliberty
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Sudden Debt, you have by far the best avatar.  I just wanted to tell you that.  It's the future face of Walmart shoppers once their food stamps run out.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 21:52 | 5351506 california chrome
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"t's the future face of Walmart shoppers once their food stamps run out."

rofl - quote of the day.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:23 | 5350920 Harbanger
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Orwell presented a guide,

A guide to hell.  Orwell did not know the Lord, sorry folks, but I dreamt of him in grey.  His books are not shocking, but common sense.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 21:21 | 5351409 Mediocritas
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The Lord....oh you mean that all-seeing Authority in the sky that watches and judges your every move, sending you to hell if you don't conform to his System?

The secretive Authority that nobody ever sees but who has armies of "authorized" human enforcers who range from simply scribing contradicting doublespeak through to violently decapitating the non-aligned?

Oh I think Orwell knew the Lord perfectly well.

Biblical contradictions quiz show for a laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 23:09 | 5351640 FreeMktFisherMN
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Amen. All that matters is the binary matter of eternity, whether one spends it with the Lord in Heaven or in hell tormented day and night. To be saved and have eternal life, one solely has to believe on the Lord Jesus that He died for our sins. Christianity is purely about what Christ did, shedding His precious blood that we would not need to suffer the consequences of sin, which is death, and only He could pay the penalty, as He was blameless. The only people who will be able to resist the Antichrist will be those who have believed on the Lord. I am big time into gold, guns, food, etc, and on the side of life and freedom, but eternity is what matters and God's Word tells us how this will all go down, so we need not even speculate as to how the End Times will play out. It is going to get a lot more hellish on this earth, but believers will say, even so, come Lord Jesus, knowing that everything is in His hands and certain things must come to pass. 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 01:42 | 5351802 ebear
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"one solely has to believe on the Lord Jesus that He died for our sins"

How does one believe "on" something?   I know that's not a typo because I've heard it many times.  Is that some sort of throwback to Olde English?  I notice fundies tend to do that.  Makes them sound more offcial, I guess.

As for some guy dying for my sins 2000 years before I was born, how exactly does that work?  I mean, if Jesus were around today and said, dude, I'm going to die for your sins, I'd tell him, thanks but no thanks.  I prefer to answer for my own sins, if that's OK with you.  

You see, I believe in taking responsibility for my own actions.  I know that sounds strange, but then I figure it makes me more cautious about what I say and do, and frankly, I think it's what God would actually expect of me - not to pass the buck to someone else, even if it was his only begotten son (damn, now you've got me doing it!).



Sun, 10/19/2014 - 06:44 | 5351926 Grumbleduke
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"I don't understand the connection: died for my sins!? I hit myself with a shovel on my head for your mortgage! I don't understand it!"

 - Doug Stanhope -

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVvCe6xZvOk

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 09:19 | 5352054 sleigher
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<*)^_

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 19:51 | 5351221 messymerry
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Hey Cog, self-fulfilling prophesies dude,,,

;-D

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 20:48 | 5351345 Statetheist
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Not even remotely. The fact that you can type that on a computer shows it's no where even close to as horrifying as what Orwell presented.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 21:54 | 5351509 CASTBOUND
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I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... http://goo.gl/yioYBZ

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 22:25 | 5351551 espirit
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You're a Union Plumber also?

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 16:51 | 5350886 alexcojones
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Jim Q at Burning Platform is getting kinda lazy

Just posting political cartoons -

BTW Eric Blair chose 1984, I believe, because he wrote the book in 1948.

1984 wasn't a huge success, not like Harry Potter or The Hunger Games.

Not enough teenage girls back then I guess.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 16:58 | 5350898 Kirk2NCC1701
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That and... Real people like real endings.  Sheeple like Happy Endings in their Novels, Shows and Films. 

Are you not entertained?  ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:32 | 5350943 Harbanger
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Real people recognize what's true, no?  We all wish for a happy ending regardless of what's true, no?

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:47 | 5350969 ThirdWorldDude
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Real people read books that ask more questions and make one think. Sheeple read books that make them feel good.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:54 | 5350982 Harbanger
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Many of my friends are well read in BS, like you said they "read books that make them feel good."  Reading something with real substance takes effort.  1 good book= 2-3 years

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 18:40 | 5351074 holgerdanske
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reading,- not writing.

 

"Reading something with real substance takes effort.  1 good book= 2-3 years"

 

 

 

 

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 19:16 | 5351169 Harbanger
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A short comprehension test given after reading would show that many peeps are RETARDED.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 22:29 | 5351579 espirit
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Actually, most are lyzdexic.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:49 | 5350972 New_Meat
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most corporeal people are excessively grossed out at rodents in a cage around the protagonist's head.

Please let our very own GW know that this situation is, in fact, is really torture.  Perhaps not, though, not if the rodents fail to take a bite.  They may crap on the protagonist.  In San Francisco, that is termed "foreplay" among some communities.

But, evidently and statistically, we all love Big Brother.

- Ned

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:52 | 5350976 Ralph Spoilsport
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The cartoon is right about James Patterson. The fact that he remains a best-selling author says a lot about his audience. My theory is that his readers are all on SSRIs or other mind bending pharmaceuticals so they don't remember reading his previous books.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 20:21 | 5351249 Equality 7-25-1
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Understand that television, radio and AV internet is electronic heroin. Even the sophisticated tools most people take for granted induce a wide range of psychological effects. Biochemical effects. With permanent consequences.

Check this

How television affects the brain

Extrapolate that to video games, and beyond. VR.

Check this

Mass mind control through network television

Check Valentine's book The Phoenix Program

In his book Food of the Gods Terence McKenna dissected television and identified the major sociological control points that steered the entire western culture into the ditch starting in the 50s, widely rejected 56-69, checked in the 70s and heeled in the 80s. MSM is ground zero. Thanks Walt Disney 1313. Prosecute DCI George Bush for his *extensive* crimes against humanity and terminal experiments. On unwitting American soldiers. On unwitting Americans. On at least one French village. That extract use to be online but now I can't find a link. You might find it amongst the heads, who are libertarians. They are pretty smart & just want to be left alone. Here is the start of that 2 page assessment:

"Television, introduced at the close of World War II, has become a form of electronic heroin, and it isn’t even your trip. They don’t even let you go on your own trip, you get a trip designed by Madison Avenue.”

You can find the book but he only touches on television. Just look at the (pre-Clinton's golem) statistics. Television is a drug. In his book Revolutionary Wealth Bertrand Russell's gollum Alvin Toffler described generally time and space dilation effects of technology. In the world, not just in the Skinner box that is tv. You should put on your disbelief hazmat suit & read everything by Toffler, and look at who he's sucked in. Toffler makes Alister Crowley, Rupert Murdoch, Ted Turner, Al Gore and Hillary Clinton look like his 1st year little league draft. He's as black a magician as they come.

 

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 20:28 | 5351301 Bananamerican
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"and identified the major sociological control points that steered the entire western culture into the ditch starting in the 50s, widely rejected 56-69, checked in the 70s and heeled in the 80s. MSM is ground zero. Thanks Walt Disney 1313. Prosecute DCI George Bush for his extensive crimes against humanity. That extract use to be online but now I can't find a link. You might find it amongst the heads, who are libertarians..."

ya know...this is incomprehensible

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 21:23 | 5351440 One Eyed Jack
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The best thing that ever did was give up television.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 06:12 | 5351906 Equality 7-25-1
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Thought modification? 

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 20:56 | 5351366 bid the soldier...
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Happy or unhappy ending.

Makes no difference to me.

Both make me cry.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 16:56 | 5350896 Reaper
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Orwell didn't predict the sheeple would worship Big Bro as their messiah and cringe with guilt about racism to say the obvious. The sheeple crave trust to avoid the pain and responsibility of thinking. Orwell understood the depravity of the oppressed.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 16:59 | 5350901 cherry picker
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Anyone who had a lick of common sense could see the hand writing on the wall, but many really do not know what common sense is or possess it, hell we even have a difficult time defining it.

Then there are truths each individual uses for a foundation and he or she can see the world and assess based on them.  Problem is not everyone's truths are true.

George Orwell saw through the bullshit and predicted what would happen. 

And when you read of stories where a woman is thrown in jail for not mowing her lawn or a war vet is his eighties jailed for not repairing a wall on his building or 30% of the population thinking it is OK to take money that is not theirs because they "suspect" it may be used or has been used for laundering is a sign of what is to come.

The fools all want their GPS to tell them where they are, yet Big Bro knows where you are too.  If you lived somewhere for a bit, why do you need a gps to tell you where you are?  Why does a normal person need a heart rate monitor?  Our bodies and minds have capabilities of telling us where we are and how we feel, now we need instrument panels to wake up in the morning?

Earth could be and often is nirvana but people know how to screw it up.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:30 | 5350940 Anarchy 99
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well said

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 19:12 | 5351155 Harbanger
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Maybe, but he doesn't understand our social fabric has been manipulated and distorted even worse than bankster/wallstreet.  I just talked to an awesome young dude who was brokenhearted over his chick fking around on  him.  She makes more money than he does, I get that, I said we all live by grace brother, that chick will soon enough wish you will choose her.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:33 | 5350946 Joe Plane
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@cherry picker

Like your post very much. Especially about the GPS and all the electronic gizmos which slowly kill the thought processes of mankind.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:45 | 5350966 Harbanger
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Anyone with a lick of common sense would know that statism has eroded us into goldless mice in their godless social experiment.  About to be destroyed by truth.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 19:16 | 5351170 Advoc8tr
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Did you just use "God" and common sense in the same sentence ?  The most investigated phenomena in history ... 100's of different versions each claiming to be "the only correct one" not a single shred of indisputable "evidence" ever found - sounds like the ant-thesis of common sense to me.

Religion is just another control mechanism ... the old version of the sophisticated propaganda we see today.  Credit where credit is due though ... sticks like shit to a blanket irregardless of IQ, Education, Race, Class or evidence to the contrary.

 

... no arguing with the Goldless mice analogy though.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 19:26 | 5351189 Harbanger
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Don't confuse spirituality with religion or statism.  Goldless and Godless however always seem to go together.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 20:09 | 5351268 Keyser
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This is where the human race has been decieved... TPTB confuse the sheeple by telling them that religion is spirituality, which could not be further from the truth...  There are over 5300 different deities worshiped on this planet today and all of them claim to be "the one"...

 

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 23:50 | 5351699 Keyser
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Thanks for the downvotes... You've proven the point that the programming is still working on you... 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 02:05 | 5351814 ebear
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Spirituality is just as big a trap as religion.  Nothing more than a substitute for people who can't make a complete break from mystical mumbo jumbo.

How abou this?  Stop listening to what other's have to say (including me) and start thinking for yourself.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 10:16 | 5352159 Keyser
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This is this answer, except the populace has been dumbed down through a shitty education system that is designed to make people compliant and to not think... Believe whatever comes out of the idiot box and far worse today, whatever pops up on their iGadget... People no longer have to "think"...  Their iGadgets do it for them... 

 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 12:12 | 5352413 juangrande
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You, circa 1500, " Of course the world is flat, it's logical!"

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:02 | 5350902 screw face
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no comment

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:13 | 5350908 Atomizer
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No comment Tyler, Fuck me.. Oops, I lied. Great comeback on facts. 

Thanks..Love you like Obama buttfucking BO. Just kidding..Humor 

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:10 | 5350909 karutzar
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George Orwell - A Final Warning

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98G8TCOwv1U

 


Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:27 | 5350929 American Dreams
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Thanks Karu, I have known this quote for ages but have never seen him deliver the words.  They are haunting to say the least.

Know your enemy

AD

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 22:30 | 5351583 Curiously_Crazy
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It's from a movie dude :P

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:22 | 5350921 livefreediefree
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No, Animal Farm is more relevant than 1984. In fact, if you read a synopsis of Huxley's book, you'll find it populated with Milennials who've created a Progressive-like culture akin to the one Progressives have created today, a culture which the Muslims hate, and which is the #1 reason ISIS wants to kill us.

Differences between reality and 1984. The authoritarian gov't in 1984 is right-wing; the current authoritarian gov't is left-wing. The dictator in 1984 is Dear Leader!!; the current dictator is OH, isn't he so sexy and handsome!! Wars in 1984 occupy the entire population; wars today occupy only the professional army.

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:28 | 5350932 American Dreams
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Aniumal Farm was also an Orwell book.  I believe you mean Huxley.

AD

Sat, 10/18/2014 - 17:54 | 5350984 New_Meat
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freebie, what is this "authoritarian right wing" -- "authoritarian left wing" thinge of which u speak?

You, dear poster, are suffering from a meme long inserted by the NYT and ol' whatshisface, Winchell?, who thought that Ol' joe stalin was perfect and that Adolf Hitler of the National Socialist Party was a baaad duude.

Ya catchin' on to the "socialist" thingie?

Good,

- Ned

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