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"Either You're The Butcher... Or The Cattle"

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Submitted by Jim Quinn via The Burning Platform blog,

The Walking Dead reflect the darkening mood of this intensifying Fourth Turning. I wrote one of my more pessimistic articles called Welcome to Terminus in April regarding the season four finale of the Walking Dead series. I essentially argued we are approaching the end of the line and the world is going to get real nasty.

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In the six short months since I wrote that depressing article, we’ve seen men beheaded on Youtube videos by terrorists no one had ever heard of at the beginning of this year. Somehow a ragtag band of 30,000 Muslim terrorists, using American military equipment supplied to fight Assad in Syria and taken from the Iraqi Army when they turned tail and ran away, have been able to defeat 600,000 Iraqi and Kurd fighters with air support from the vaunted U.S. Air Force. Syria, Iraq, Libya, and Afghanistan descend into never ending religious based warfare. We’ve even had passenger planes mysteriously disappear in Asia with no trace.

Crimea seceded from Ukraine and rejoined Russia, initiating a plan to punish Russia by the western powers. America supported and planned the overthrow of a democratically elected government in the Ukraine, with a predictable push back response by Russia, leading to a bloody civil war in the Eastern Ukraine. We’ve had a false flag shooting down of an airliner over the Ukraine by the Ukrainian government, blamed on Russia and Putin by Obama and his EU co-conspirators. The American corporate media mouthpieces have ignored the cover-up of missing controller transmissions, black box recordings, and physical evidence regarding the murder of hundreds of innocent people by western politicians. Israel and Hamas resumed their endless religious war in Gaza, with thousands of casualties and destruction.

UK fear mongering and financial threats barely averted the secession of Scotland from the UK. Cantalonia continues to push for a secession vote to leave Spain. Violent protests have broken out in Spain, Italy, France and even Sweden. Turmoil, protests and riots in Brazil, Venezuela, Argentina and Mexico have been driven by anger at political corruption, high inflation, and general economic dysfunction. Saber rattling between China and Japan has increased and young people in Hong Kong have been protesting the lack of democratic elections being permitted by China. The world economy, undergoing central bank monetary stimulus withdraw, is headed back into recession as Germany, China and the U.S. join the rest of the world in economic decline. And now the Western Africa outbreak of ebola has gone worldwide, with predictions of an epidemic potentially causing worldwide economic chaos.

What’s happening in the real world makes the dystopian zombie world of Walking Dead seem almost quaint. The writers of this show brilliant use of symbolism and imagery captures the violent, chaotic, inhumane, darkening, brutal world we inhabit as the Fourth Turning crisis period we entered in 2008 deepens on a daily basis. There is a good reason why the first episode of their fifth season drew the biggest cable TV audience in history. The show is clearly tapping into the mood of the masses. Early in the latest episode you realize Terminus has become a processing center run by cannibals. The line between victim and criminal, killer and prey, good and evil, madness and sanity, and moral and immoral is blurred. Everything is relative in the post-pandemic world of the Walking Dead.

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Seeing Wall Street cannibals walk away unscathed after devouring the worldwide economic system in 2008 with their fraudulent financial schemes, corrupt politicians enriched by throwing taxpayers under the bus, militarized police forces trampling the Fourth Amendment, the NSA spying on every American, a private central bank enriching their owners by funneling trillions into their bank vaults, a president trampling on the Constitution by issuing executive orders to bypass the other branches of government, and billions of welfare and tax fraud from the urban ghettos to the penthouse suites in NYC, has convinced a large swath of Americans that everything is relative and nothing matters in our warped dystopian world. Right and wrong no longer matter. Morality is an antiquated concept. Adhering to the Constitution is an outmoded notion. Our society celebrates and condones our dog eat dog economic paradigm. Or zombie eats anything world in the case of Walking Dead.

The Terminus complex is reminiscent of the concentration camp in Schindler’s List. It is complete with railroad cars to hold the prisoners, gates with barbed wire, armed guards, and extermination facilities to “process” the prisoners. Thick black smoke belches into the air. There is a room stacked full of booty, teddy bears, watches, clothes – everything except the gold fillings.The Nazi like precision and attention to detail is reflected in the almost business-like method in which the Terminus administrators go about gutting their prey. The bone chilling efficiency and antiseptic processing facility evoke memories of the holocaust gas chambers. The opening sequence when Rick, Daryl, Glenn and Bob are among a group of men lined up to be gutted like pigs over a trough in place to collect their spilled blood, might have been the most brutal scene ever put on non-premium cable TV.

The callous and dispassionate way in which the prisoners (cattle) are lined up in front of a stainless steel trough is disconcerting and bone chilling. The victims are hit with a baseball bat and then their throats are slit over the trough by men in protective suits. They have become nothing but cattle to be butchered and consumed by the Terminus cannibals. You see another part of the processing plant where human remains are hanging from hooks like sides of beef. Gareth, the leader of Terminus, supervises the operation like a CEO, berating the butchers for not meeting quotas and following standard operating procedures. Not much different than how our mega-corporations are run today.

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The other fascinating similarity between the dystopian “nightmare of want” setting of Terminus and our modern day dystopian “empire of excess” is the use of false advertising and propaganda to lure “customers” into their web. Their version of billboard advertising has plywood with the hand written messages of “Sanctuary for All”, “Community for All”, and “Those Who Arrive Survive”. The Terminus cannibals would have fit in well on Madison Avenue with the highly paid spin artists, propagandists, and whores for the corporate oligarchs.

The signs along train tracks and radio transmissions from a call center like facility showed the calculated business-like efficiency of the cannibals in systematically and methodically luring victims to their slaughterhouse. It is the same techniques used by the apostles of Edward Bernays to consciously and intelligently manipulate the habits, opinions, tastes, ideas and actions of the masses, in order to control and influence their buying habits, voting decisions, and support of their rulers. The unseen men who constitute the “invisible government” use these techniques to keep the cattle docile, fed, and ignorant, as they are led to slaughter.

The government and lack thereof is always lurking in the murky background of how and why the United States has devolved into an infected world of the walking dead. This episode provided some clues about government labs producing viruses as weapons to be used against some unexplained enemy. The insinuation is that the government somehow lost control of the virus and the ensuing pandemic destroyed our modern world and left the survivors to battle the biters and each other for the remaining scraps. The Federal government caused the societal collapse and is nowhere to be found in rebuilding the nation.

It is unclear how the apocalypse went down, but you can assume it began with fear, which led to panic, chaos, economic collapse, violent upheaval, war, and total breakdown of governmental authority and control. It is ironic that today fear of a worldwide ebola pandemic is coinciding with an inevitable economic implosion, wars raging in te Middle East, violent protests raging around the globe, and trust in governmental authority plunging to all-time lows. The Walking Dead has wittingly or unwittingly captured the ambiance of our turbulent times.

When you are faced with desperate circumstances you can either do whatever you need to survive or you can submissively accept your fate and die. Gareth and his cannibalistic cohorts had been in the same situation as Rick and his posse, but they had somehow turned the tables on their captors. Gareth’s survival of the fittest creed was “either you’re the butcher or you’re the cattle”. Human beings react to intense pressure and life threatening situations in different ways. Some people snap and turn into monsters, like Gareth. Some people snap and lose their minds. Others, like Rick and Carol, summon an inner strength to do whatever it takes to survive while barely maintaining their humanity. Others turn into blind followers of a strong forceful leader, not questioning the morality, legality or humanity of what they are ordered to do. The line between right and wrong, necessary versus unnecessary, vengeance versus justice, and butcher versus cattle is blurred in a world without rules, government or accepted norms.

I believe the “butcher or cattle” analogy is sadly a valid meme for the world we currently inhabit. In the Walking Dead world, individuals must choose to be butcher or cattle. It’s a Darwinian world of kill or be killed. Like minded individuals with common values and goals form communities to protect themselves, provide for themselves, and attempt to bring a semblance of order in a chaotic world. The community of Westbury, led by the governor and the community of Terminus, led by Gareth, are founded upon a foundation of evil and ultimately destroyed. Rick’s community of liberty minded freedom fighters do whatever is necessary to survive, but retain their humanity, decency and desire to create a better world.

Our present day world may not be as brutish as the Walking Dead world, though the line between reality and fiction is often indistinguishable when you turn on the news, but the distinction between butchers and cattle is clear. The elected and non-elected rulers of the deep state are the butchers, sending young men off to die for oil companies and arms dealers, impoverishing the masses through inflation and their control of the currency, and enriching themselves through their complete control of the political, financial, judicial, and economic systems. This establishment, or invisible government as Bernays described, is committed to its own enrichment and perpetuation. Its scope, financial resources, and global reach put it in a predator class all by itself.

The common people are the cattle being led to slaughter. We are kept docile with incessant propaganda from the mainstream media; marketing messages to consume from Madison Avenue; filtered, adjusted, manipulated economic data fed to us by government agencies; an endless supply of iGadgets and other electronic distractions; government education designed to keep us ignorant; 24/7 reality TV on six hundred stations to keep us entertained; corporate toxic processed food to keep us obese and tame; and an endless supply of Wall Street supplied debt to keep us caged in our pens with no hope of escape. The butchers of the deep state have maintained control for decades, but we’re entering a new era.

Fourth Turnings result in the tables being turned on the butchers. Some cattle are awakening from their stupor. They can see the bloody writing on the slaughterhouse wall. Anyone who isn’t sensing a dramatic mood change in this country is either a mindless zombie or a functionary of the deep state. The financial shenanigans of the ruling class are again being revealed as nothing but a Ponzi scheme built on a foundation of debt and propped up by delusions and ignorance. When the house of cards collapses in the near future, the tables will turn. When people have nothing left to lose, they will lose it. The butchers will become the cattle. There will be no sanctuary for these evil men. Their reign of terror will be swept away in a whirlwind of retribution, death and destruction. It might even make the Walking Dead look like a walk in the park.

 

 

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Mon, 10/20/2014 - 19:49 | 5357230 gwar5
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Butchers are going to lose control and they're not going to like it.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 19:53 | 5357259 NemoDeNovo
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Balance MUST be restored, whether WE like it or not Nature will find a way.  Get ready to reap the whirlwind quite soon.........

 

E. B. O. L. A. Enjoy Barack Obamas Legacy America!!!

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:15 | 5357346 Fish Gone Bad
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Anyone who isn’t sensing a dramatic mood change in this country is either a mindless zombie or a functionary of the deep state.

Every once in a while I watch Watership Down and watch the bunnies eating food amongst the rabbit snares... 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:22 | 5357383 bunzbunzbunz
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Is it good? I'm too lazy to read, but I don't want to watch a shitty movie...

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:29 | 5357402 J S Bach
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Not bad until they got to the predictable "evil-Nazi" part.  Today's criminals' dirty deeds dwarf the alleged National Socialist crimes.  Do some homework on your history and stop imbibing Spielberg propaganda films as a source.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:47 | 5357463 Laddie
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They always use NAZI when discussing Obama and the Rahm Israel Emanuel gang, silly isn't it? Does anyone REALLY think that the Obama and the other regimes that have put a BULLS-EYE on the backs of White people in this nation, via Affirmative Action, government set asides and on and on, 3rd World immigration, H1-B visas and all the rest of the visas refugees and etc. As I posted below .gov is having 34 MILLION green cards printed. Do you REALLY think Adolf Hitler and the National Socialists WOULD DO THAT to America? NO. The Bolsheviks would and ARE doing it, ebola and entero-virus 68 and much more and People of Color VIOLENCE against Whites never mentioned in National media.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:45 | 5357469 duncecap rack
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You're a fucking idiot

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 21:30 | 5357629 J S Bach
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Why doesn't any writer instead use the far more accurate and provable example of Soviet Gulag camps where tens of millions of mostly Christians were tortured and worked to death?

Oh yeah... I forgot.  They never made a "Schindloff's List" movie portraying the brave Russian dissident protecting his 2,000 gentile workers from the Jewish Bolshevik overseers in Siberia.  Therefore, these greatest of evil murder mills - and the system that produced them - are not known to the ignorant masses.

Now I understand.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 21:45 | 5357697 duncecap rack
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Listen ghoul, this nothing to do with comparitive levels of evil. Anybody that can  claim to have any knowledge of the subject and then speak of the "alleged" crimes of the nazi party can only be described as a fucking idiot. They might be fun power words to use but you prove yourself to be a moron. You have nothing to offer.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 23:09 | 5357929 J S Bach
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Well, Duncecap (aptly named btw)... if you were honest and did a little more research, you'd learn the difference between National Socialist prisoner of war/labor camps (whose supply lines were bombed to oblivian thus rendering disease and starvation inevitable) and Communist slave labor/torture camps that existed before/during/and after the war.  These camps were designed for the sole purpose of eliminating those not willing to be compliant Soviet serfs (Kulaks, Cossacks, etc...).

Both of these are atrocious examples of inhumanity, but there is a difference in both reasons and numbers between the two mentioned.  My point was that the far-greater injustice was inflicted by our gallant ally and is never mentioned in print or any other main-stream-media.

Now get back in the corner.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 00:13 | 5358111 Anusocracy
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When all is said and done, the evil is government.

It is a playground for killers, thieves, sadists, and other assorted psychopaths.

People who shouldn't even be in society, let alone running it.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 23:14 | 5357934 FeralSerf
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". . . this nothing to do with comparitive levels of evil."

It had MUCH to do with what happened in Germany. There are ALWAYS consequences.

The fear that the Jewish Bolsheviks instilled in the Germans during the 1920s had much to do with the paranoia the Germans had of the Jews in Germany. Hitler successfully used that to help him get popular support and political power.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 23:52 | 5358058 Plato's Law
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+1.

Sorry to repeat, but hopefully for some this is their first visit to the truth about Rabbi Spielberg: In Schindler's list one of the prisoners gives Schindler a little momento with alleged Talmudic verse: "If you save one life you save the whole world." The Rabbis still kiss Spielbergs butt daily for this little treasure of Judaic worship.

One little problem.  This is just another in an endless list of Judaic lies and obfuscations.  Rabbi Spielberg left a word out of his movie verse.  The original vs. reads: "If you save one Judaic life you save the whole world."  Gentiles can suck an egg. 

Maybe this could help turn the lights on for one or two Gentiles who still don't realize what a trough of lies comprises Judaism.  Do you Gentile women like this Talmudic verse: "Thank you g_d you did not make me a gentile, a slave, nor a woman."

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 23:17 | 5357953 ebworthen
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I sense the mood change, it's coffee and water cooler conversation now.

Winding the spring, winding the spring.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 19:55 | 5357262 El Vaquero
Mon, 10/20/2014 - 21:36 | 5357669 lasvegaspersona
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better allusion to stampede from Tremors (favorite comedy/horror franchise of all time)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5e3qoREpuA

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:34 | 5357426 Freddie
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The sheep are easily controlled by TV and Hollywood's crap.  I bet 70% of ZH posters still watch TV like dumb sheep.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 22:05 | 5357772 DavidPierre
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Quinn ... Rickards and so many others...'like dumb sheep.'

http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 02:07 | 5358268 epicurious
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Freddie

Very apt!!   Judging by the score of arrows it's 50%

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 03:01 | 5358329 European American
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Freddie, that's a sensitive subject for those in denial. It's like suggesting to an alcoholic, after they've had a few drinks, they have a problem. I'd say the percentage is more like 90% and many of those who gave you thumbs up, want to, but can't kick the "program".

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 02:39 | 5358299 CASTBOUND
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my neighbor's half-sister makes $63 /hour on the internet . She has been out of work for 10 months but last month her pay was $16551 just working on the internet for a few hours. More Info... www.job-reports.com

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 04:48 | 5358386 MeMongo
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CASTABOUND.....So if your neighbor had a WHOLE sister would she be making $126 an hour? And if so would she still be a whore?

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 19:50 | 5357239 limacon
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See a kinder , gentler age when the very language made it difficult to lie .

https://www.academia.edu/8873547/The_Click_Ur-Language

 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 19:50 | 5357240 kliguy38
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Muppet stew.....its whats for dinner..........GS

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 00:42 | 5358146 Kirk2NCC1701
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“I was part of a ten-person team at a Human Genome Project that weaponized diseases to fight weaponized diseases.  Pathogenic micro-organisms fought pathogenic micro-organisms: Fight fire with fire.  Interdepartmental drinks were held, relationships made, information shared.  I’m keenly aware of all the details behind the fail-safe delivery systems to kill every living person on this planet.  I believe that with a little tweaking of the terminals in DC we can flip the Script.” -The Walking Dead, S5E1

"(As long as these things are out there) you'll NEVER be safe." -S5E2

"You taste a lot better than I thought you would" [surviving butcher chewing on a BBQd piece of amputated leg and talking to the guy] -S5E2

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 19:51 | 5357249 TeamDepends
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If anyone invites you to "the coolest rave ever" at a place called "Terminus", kindly decline.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 19:57 | 5357264 SilverIsMoney
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Reject the financial system and stack Silver and Gold. They represent real capital and actual banking powers (you can literally print your own currency if you have a large enough stack) and hold their value over time.

Dollars are the lifeblood of the system - just ask that poor schmuck in Moscow who just blew up - and if we can reject the dollars then we drain the system of it's abilty to steal. The entire thing collapses on itself after that... just make sure you have a way to keep eating.

Stack silver, and mostly silver, but stack gold too. Stack both for sure.

The day is coming when the cattle revolts and the money changers will be butchered first so i'd recommend alot of guns and ammo too ;)

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 00:56 | 5358170 Kirk2NCC1701
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At the economic level, the solution is to starve the Beast by creating and using the PARALLEL ECONOMY:  Barter, Cash, PM, Crypto-currencies.  Anything but the official system.  If you can't avoid using the System to pay for something, use cash or write a check ('cheque' in British Commonwealth), but do NOT use a CC -- as the use of a CC adds to FRB (Fractional Reserve Banking).

Politically... get off your sofa or away from your PC, and help with the Liberty campaign.  Otherwise you're a lazy, two-faced phoney... all talk, no action.

Socially & Culturally... join groups that promote Education in Austrian Economics and Real Money, Self-Reliance, Resiliency, Community.  Be anti-war, anti-foreign-entanglements.  Nation Building begins at home.  And "No more Usury!"

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 19:58 | 5357272 limacon
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In any case , the Tragedy of the Commons , which this is , can and has been avoided .

See

http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2011/10/ostrum-game.html

You're the Cheesemaker .

 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:48 | 5357479 swmnguy
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Blessed are the Cheesemakers.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:20 | 5357278 JuliaS
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I've had similar thoughts about the Zombie phenomenon. Pirate craze, come and gone. Vampires - come and gone. Zombies, for some reason, keep coming. With Ebola scare, feels like more relevant than ever.

I thought what it was about zombies that appealed to eveyone. Zombie banks? Nah. I though it had more to do with the broader economic fears imprinted in our heads. The idea of mistrust, cautious cooperation, backstabbing - having a friend (normal human) turn foe and you having to pull the trigger.

Mad max and other subsequent films were brought on by the Arab oil embargo. The 2008 crash gave rise to zombies.

There is a computer game that some may be familiar with called "DayZ" which is facinating to watch on youtube. It is very much like Walking Dead, only interactive. The game mechanics is based on nothing but trust. It makes a great social experiment - unscripted. People encountering strangers and building fragile relationships that exhibit more mistrust and suspicon than any other quality. The game itself looks silly, but from a purely social perspective it offers, it's pure gold. I highly recommend it.

The Walking Dead, indeed, appears to be a reflection of times. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that way.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:46 | 5357471 NemoDeNovo
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Zombies actually really began to rise with George Romeros Night of the Living Dead [1968], Romero used zombies as his metaphor for his social comentary about where our society was/is going.  The whole Romero "Dead" series has been quite the evolution of his mirror to society, most are definately worth a watch should you desire.

Just my 2c

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:56 | 5357510 JuliaS
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Zombie theme is long-running. Economic condition seems to bring it relevance. Civilization is a fragile thing (and Night of the Living Dead is a great movie). Thanks for bringing it up.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 23:01 | 5357901 NemoDeNovo
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Who the Fu(% would junk you for that comment?  Freaking Sleeple, yes I said Sleeple, not sheeple, most don't even deserve sheeple anymore.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 22:33 | 5357819 Christophe2
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The Zombie movies symbolize the life of conspiring cultists amongst regular people like you and I.

Illuminati (and other satanic cults) tell their members that regular people are "the dead".  The main reason for this seems to be to instill fear into the members - ie: if you dare leave the sadistically abusive 'family', you are DEAD.

But in general, since only they operate with deep knowledge and mastery of conspiracy and how to gang up on unsuspecting people (ie: people who don't realize there are a bunch of satanic co-conspirators operating everywhere possible), it follows that they have nothing but easy intellectual victories over the sheeple, who never seemed to be able to figure it out fully ('till the internet).

And hence, with sheeple designed to be as thoughtless and vacuous as possible, and with Hollywood-type media designed to distract such feeble minds endlessly, it follows that the sheeple-as-zombies would be constantly seeking to consume 'human' brains: sheeple can't even function daily without someone else's brains doing most of their thinking for them, distracting them, soothing them, ...

Interestingly, the zombie stories never last long enough to reach the most likely ending pattern: 'humans' figure out how to master and game the zombies and thus gain perpetual motion machines to run various shit jobs for them.  The zombies end up 'miserably enchained', but who cares about mindless zombies anyway, right?

Another interesting detail is how the more recent Romeros zombie films had some of the zombies "learning to think", which evidently mirrors what is happening in society thanks to the internet: some of us have indeed figured out how to think independently, which ENORMOUSLY raises the danger level for the cultists-as-surviving-'humans'...

There is WAY more devious thinking involved in most Hollywood productions than most people realize...  Each movie is designed to have desirable psychological effects on BOTH regular sheeple AND on illuminati-type cultists (& MK-ULTRA victims, etc.).

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 10:33 | 5359154 durablefaith
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"Before atrocities are carried out, propaganda and dehumanization are utilized to condition the masses to provide moral cover for the intended crimes.

That process is well underway in the united states.  Fema has a website that teaches how to survive a zombie apocalypse. A new show is coming out portraying abraham lincoln as a zombie hunter. The news is giving visibility to events where one person bites or menacingly growls at another. Flash Mobs are getting away with crimes and the news and law enforcement is making it clear that usually no-one is apprehended…

This all indicates that the central planners are orchestrating a collapse of some sort and their INTENT is to create social chaos."

https://durablefaith.wordpress.com/2012/06/23/for-god-so-loved-the-zombies/

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 19:59 | 5357283 logicalman
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I've almost always headed in the opposite direction to the herd.

Most of my regrets come from those times when I didn't.

 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:01 | 5357288 RickTome
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Leading the lambs to the slaughter has taken on a whole new meaning, now it is the lambs who do the slaughtering(Ironically, of themselves.).

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:06 | 5357305 pgroup
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Bring it, bitchez.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:14 | 5357341 just-my-opinion
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Ok....Don't get mad at me for sayin....MMMM....steak

 

(Pgroup)....It has already been brot.....Just time to have fun now!

 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:13 | 5357342 news printer
Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:14 | 5357344 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen.

The Internet. The greatest mind control device "EVER"!

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:19 | 5357367 just-my-opinion
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What?....Internet?....EVER?....sorry I have cable....I think I need to watch football....Do I need to change from the big bang ......what the hell was that?

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:50 | 5357483 Freddie
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TV and Hollywood.   The iNternet is a surveilance tool.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:17 | 5357352 MATA HAIRY
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excellent article, but with one deeply flawed reference. You referred to the constitution as something to help the people. It does not.

 

The power of the constitution lies in the structure of the federal govt that it creates. And that structure is deeply deeply anti-democratic. The constitution is the friend of the plutocrats and corporations.

The constitution was specifically and explicitly designed to thwart democracy, to hamper the ability of the masses to control their own gov't.

 

And guess what, Sweetpea? You ARE the masses..

 

 

But other than that, great article. Still, it saddens me to see, time and time again, populist writers who appear to be very knowledgeable, and yet who speak well of the constitution. Any working class person who speaks well of the constitution is ignorant. Unfortunately, 99.9% fall into that category.

 

 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:49 | 5357480 JuliaS
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People seem to think the 2nd Amendment and the "blood of tyrants" Jefferson quote refer to keeping the government accountable when in reality what the forefathers truly feared was invasion of the same colonial empires and banks that they were trying to distance themselves from. They wanted the public to be weary of infiltrators. They wouldn't give the guns to people if there was any possibility of guns being pointed at the lawmakers themselves.

That's why the bill of rights applied to everyone except blacks, women and indians. That's why the Constitution was open to interpretation since the day it was written and that's why we're still having arguments over legality of ratification of various Amendments. It was never clear cut. It was never 100% agreed upon and there was never a full compliance with any rule or law.

As Carlin puts it - a group of self-elected white slave owners wanted to continue being free to own their slaves.

Had Lincoln not run out of money paying for his pet war and made Continental Notes "not worth a Contiental", slavery might've stuck around another century... who knows. Depending on perspective some might argue it was never abolished, with the modern banking and all.

I love The Constitution. I love its ideas. I think they were convenient for the time and I think they offer better alternatives to today's pseudo-democracy than any other system. However I still think that it was inspired not by noble motivations, but by the very same greed and wrapped in just as much hypocricy as any other rule of the land.

Had the founders obeyed their laws to the letter, they would've built ships and sailed right back to the old world, for the continent was already inhabited by the time the first explorers arrived. But you see, that was different! The people whose land was stolen didn't recognize proper protocols and they were savages... and Jews that Hitler tried eliminating weren't humans. And Muslims aren't peace-loving Christians...

Establish rules. Include all humans, and then cherry pick which humans are humans and which ones are not. Perfect!

Each time I hear of "All men being created equal", I don't know if I'm listening to the Declaration of Independence, or being quoted something out of the Brave New World or the Animal Farm.

All grand ideas indeed. Everything sounds good on paper.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 21:07 | 5357546 MATA HAIRY
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blah blah blah...you love the constitution. Great for you. You would take the member of every founding plutocrat up your nether orifice for free.  Great for you.

 

Again, I will say it. The business end of the constitution is the structure of the federal govt it creates.

 

Now, please please please, ask me a damn question about what I just wrote. A rational question. An intelligent question.

 

No, I won't get one. Because like 99.9 percent of the populace, you are unable to formulate an original thought. That is an inherent and instrinsic characteristic of homo sapiens.

 

 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 21:33 | 5357657 TheMeatTrapper
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Julia:

Your emotion driven, factually incorrect diatribe is proof that giving women the right to vote was the death knell of the Republic. 

Remove the female vote from our elections and youd have a very different country. A much, much better one. 

The Indians land wasn't stolen from them - it was TAKEN from them. They were conquered. Just like one Indian tribe took land, hunting grounds and slaves from another tribe since time immemorial. The White do gooders always want to talk about how the White man treated the Indian but they never want to talk about how the Indians treated each other. 

And for the record, Washington ordered his slaves freed upon his wifes death. 

The Founders weren't perfect, as no man is, but they were light years ahead of the criminals and liars we have today. 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 04:58 | 5358052 JuliaS
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Given how the Indians were treating eachother I'm surprised the founders didn't call that conquest a "liberation", along the lines of what we're currently doing in Iraq.

By the way, speaking of savagery - the first batch of frontier exporers sent by the Virginia Company nearly starved to death. Out of a few hundred over a dozen remained by the time a fresh batch arrived having rebuilt their ship crashed off Bermuda. There was cannibalism. The settlers of the Eastern coast were eating eachoter. Them non-savage Brits.

And you think that Australia was the only prison colony? Look up the written appeal of the mayor of the city of London to Virginia company's shareholders to rid the streets of criminals, gypsies, lunatics and other individuals of unfavourable character. The colonists were made predominantly of the same kind of people who settled in Australia - more savage than the average Indian they were ordered to exterminate.

No problem with that.

How about the time when Virginia Company (an equivalent of a modern mega-corporation) sent a director of affairs over to restore order, giving him the authority to execut on site any person engaged or suspected of physical or verbal mutiny, which caused the settlers to run off to live with Indian tribes instead of the "Virginians". Remember "Dancing With Wolves"? No imagine more than half the colonists siding with Costner's character. That what the actual history looked like - the one we don't like mentioning.

Yeah, that history.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 21:34 | 5357666 Cloud9.5
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Jefferson said all men not some men or white men.  The masculine was used to refer to the species in his time.  The terms man and mankind were all inclusive of the members within the species.  He was better educated than most of the men reading his declaration and he understood full well its meaning when he asserted that all men are created equal.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 00:01 | 5358082 JuliaS
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And once again, species of his time did not include blacks or Indians (irrelevant of gender). Well, it sort of did, but not enough to give them any acutal power... or guns.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 07:46 | 5358532 tumblemore
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"You referred to the constitution as something to help the people. It does not."

 

Compared to what had been the norm before it was an improvement - clearly. Not enough of an improvement - also clearly - but an improvement.

 

edit: If it wasn't an improvement TPTB wouldn't be trying to hard to get rid of guns and free speech.

 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:22 | 5357380 christiangustafson
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Du mußt Amboß oder Hammer sein.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:21 | 5357382 CC Lemon
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Don't Get On!

 

The book....

 

It's.....

 

A COOKBOOK!

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:31 | 5357413 Clarabell
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This is a great metaphor for the American people. The American sheeple have already been sheared of their wool, next the oligarchic scumbags will be coming for the meat.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:55 | 5357499 Freddie
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White college and NFL fans are fools.  They cheer and support Obama supporters who want them dead.  Idiots.  WHite college kids at ball games cheering as they go into LIFETIME debt serfdom while the players leave school debt free.   Morons.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:55 | 5357504 Freddie
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White college and NFL fans are fools.  They cheer and support Obama supporters who want them dead.  Idiots. They deserve to be attacked going to NFL thug games.

WHite college kids at ball games cheering as they go into LIFETIME debt serfdom while the players leave school debt free.   Morons.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:33 | 5357422 DOGGONE
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Look at this INTELLECTUAL SAVAGERY, done especially to our young!
These instructive histories are kept out of sight, severely fooling the people:
http://www.showrealhist.com/RHandRD.html
We/USA try to keep more commercial airliners from flying into our office buildings -- and our youth do the dying ... while we keep on severely fooling the people!

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:42 | 5357457 10mm
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Anyone walking down the street, visiting a establishment brining up conversation like here on ZH at random?. I mean just really bumping into folk with a sense of a some critical thinking. Answer, NO. Were not. 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 10:08 | 5359052 durablefaith
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In east tennessee, everyday. Everywhere you go people are discussing these issues logically. 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 21:43 | 5357687 DavidPierre
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Quinn loves HolyWoody/TV fiction-bullshit.

He pisses himself everytime he even thinks about 9/11TRUTH!

He fails the test!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21pPpYw_axQ

Fuck Quinn and Rickards and Chomsky and all the other moronic tools!

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:44 | 5357462 BouncyTheWonderbunni
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Wait until a hastily approved vaccine gets fast tracked and it causes further mutations, but hey your'e

 

 

still alive eh?

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:51 | 5357488 HulkHogan
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SPOILER ALERT!!! 

 

Gowd....

 

 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 20:55 | 5357501 Baby Eating Dingo22
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This cow turned the tables and grabbed the cleaver

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/citizen-pulls-over-police-offic...

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 21:02 | 5357513 SameAsItEverWas
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Am I still the only one here who reads Harry Elmer Barnes (1889-1968)?  He's pretty much the only American social scientist of any note, and his work is more timely than ever, but it's more ignored than ever.

Why bother trying to wake up the zombies?  They prefer to be comatose!

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 21:48 | 5357702 tongue.stan
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Mooo

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 21:57 | 5357744 felix2
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I really like this post

Our own reality is a horror story and our survival tool, voting, has been co opted so both parties promise in advance they will ignore us, and our courts promise they will ignore the constitution, and our leader is importing millions who will finish us off

In the Walking Dead, if somone trues to kill you, you squish him like a bug.   It is liberty porn

Hitler needed for his success a passive public who pretended they did not know  Hitler ignored the law

Because they liked Hitler. He got rid of the vermin. I see these people around me. We are that close

Obama is loosing the Zombies on the America he hates. Obama is called aloof and arrogant, but I say he has an inferiority complex.  I think Obama hates successful America because it makes him feel inadequate

Obviously he really is inadequate. Freud explained it

To get a Hitler, you need a narcissist who uses scapegoats to cover his own failings, and you need faciliatators who rationalize scapegoating and who are happy to delegate unlimited powers to the figurehead - to see the vermin purged. Hitler wasnt manly. Neither is Obama. Both had scapegoats who humiliated their images of self. Hitler's bio has big gaps on human character, as does Obama's

Psychotics and mass psychosis

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 22:04 | 5357764 robnume
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All I want for Christmas is world sanity. Please. Just one blissful, glorious day of world sanity. Bonne chance, huh?

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 22:29 | 5357820 r00t61
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Que sera, sera, mon ami.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 00:54 | 5358177 Kirk2NCC1701
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You're either the Shepherd or the Sheep.  Alas, "traditional Christianity" teaches us to be sheep.  That's how the Romans wanted it, when they held their Council of Nicaea.

We need Liberation Theology - American style.  Either that, or RAGNAR LOTHBROK, handing out "Eagles" to enemies.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 10:14 | 5359078 durablefaith
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The gospel of the kingdom that jesus preached bears little resemblance to "traditional christianity". Jesus shattered the illusion of credibility that the romans and the jews hid behind. He disintermediated the basis of morality and ethics by elevating the "golden rule" (love neighbor not get zee gold).

If we simply followed the golden rule, we would liberate ourselves from complicity and our neighbors from tyrrany as Jesus intended.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 01:34 | 5358238 ebworthen
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I've been enjoying "Walking Dead" on Netflix.  On Season 2.

I feel like I'm in the gate being led to the .22 bullet to the head.

But I still have horns.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 03:59 | 5358354 European American
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Gareth likes thigh meat...dark, fresh off the bone. 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 04:10 | 5358366 tumblemore
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I think the analogy is spot on. If the banking mafia aren't stopped they will turn most of the planet into a fast zombie movie. The thing is in the past they did what they did to one city-state at a time or one region at a time or one country at a time or even one empire/civilization at a time but this time it's global - everywhere, all at once.

 

 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 08:40 | 5358680 d edwards
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Think bread and circuses.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 09:29 | 5358852 tumblemore
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If it's everywhere at once then I think it will be too big for that (but otherwise yes).

 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 07:24 | 5358500 AdvancingTime
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A while back I stumbled upon a blog on WordPress .com written by Gerry Spence who was born and educated in the small towns of Wyoming where he has practiced law for almost fifty-five years. Spence  has spent his lifetime representing and protecting victims of the legal system from what he calls The New Slave Master: big corporations and big government.

Below is part of a post Spence published, in it he uses the line, "With its endless propaganda the Moneyed Master has caused its slaves to believe they are free." I agree with him, and also contend that while the military-industrial complex is still massive and evil we must now focus on our new worse enemy, in a nut shell we must "WATCH OUT FOR THE GOVERNMENT-FINANCIAL COMPLEX".

 http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2012/02/we-are-all-slaves-interesting-thought.html

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 09:06 | 5358765 Disenchanted
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Yes but will the cattle turn on their real butchers, or just strike out against their fellow cattle?

Again.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 09:29 | 5358860 tumblemore
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The closer to the end we get the more they'll try and redirect anger into "let's you and him fight."

 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:14 | 5360908 Zoomorph
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Anyone who watches "The Walking Dead" definitely falls into the cattle category. Isn't watching TV the 21st century version of grazing or chewing cud? Fatten and stupid those Murikans up for harvest....

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