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Obama's Latest Speech About The Economic "Recovery" Results In Mass Audience Exodus
Yesterday, Obama made a rare campaign trail appearance in Maryland where he spoke in support of Democratic candidate for governor, Anthony Brown, proceeded with his usual bulletin of reading fabricated economic data off the teleprompter in which he highlighted improvements in US unemployment (if not the 46.5 million people on foodstamps or the 93 million Americans out of the labor force), a rebounding housing market (just as the bouncing dead cat is once again dead), the benefits of health insurance (if no mention of the disaster for small businesses that Obamacare now definitively is) a resurgent manufacturing sector (just don't look at this chart) even if he did point out the unfairness of families having "two folks working", and... a mass audience exodus followed.
This is how Reuters summarized it:
President Barack Obama made a rare appearance on the campaign trail on Sunday with a rally to support the Democratic candidate for governor in Maryland, but early departures of crowd members while he spoke underscored his continuing unpopularity.
With approval levels hovering around record lows, Obama has spent most of his campaign-related efforts this year raising money for struggling Democrats, who risk losing control of the U.S. Senate in the Nov. 4 midterm election.
It has gotten so bad, "most candidates from his party have been wary of appearing with him during their election races because of his sagging popularity," according to Reuters.
Here's why: "A steady stream of people walked out of the auditorium while he spoke, however, and a heckler interrupted his remarks."
And then this from the Free Beacon:
Many attendees of an Obama campaign rally headed for the exits shortly after the president began speaking Sunday evening.
Speaking at campaign rally in Maryland for Democratic candidate for governor Anthony Brown, Obama either ignored or didn’t notice the movement of attendees out of the event.
Reports were unclear if attendees left due to unhappiness with President Obama. Disapproval of the president is currently at an all-time high.
And then the eyewitness reports:
Lots of people, at least up front near where journalists are sitting, appear to be leaving this rally now that Obama has started speaking.
— Jeff Mason (@jeffmason1) October 19, 2014
Steady stream of people leaving Maryland rally continues as Obama speaks. It's noticeable and noisy. They would have waited hours to get in.
— Jeff Mason (@jeffmason1) October 19, 2014
One thing is clear: people have had enough of both hope and change.
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i dont think he has our best interest in mind....
Obamy is worse than Eboly
The brainwashed lady that "knows the truth" should have looked around as people exited. Dummy.
Here comes the next bubble!
http://www.amazon.com/PoliticalEars-Obama-Bullshit-Protector/dp/B00LNMLMEM
In the Kansas City area, canidates no longer identify themselves as red or blue team anymore in their flyers, yard signs etc.
All a puppet can do is give speeches that someone else writes, and blow that smoke up peoples' asses.
Walking out is the ONLY option, because speeches and promises (written by someone else) are a complete... complete waste of time.
They all do that.
Melissa Wack-McLefty (she of the tampon earrings) over at PMSNBC describes these "traitors" as "haters" who are "aiding and abetting the Koch brothers and Chil-Fil-A" and "should probably be shot, but not by a gun".
Just wait until he hands out amnesty and work permits to every illegal in the country... That should go over like a fart in church...
Obama should stick to golfing and Reggies rear. No one with a brain pays any attention to what he says.
Nobody likes to hear someone talk about golf scores all day
"I'm in a dream!"
Maryland should be his base with all of the government workers and contractors that live there. And the photos in the Daily Mail show that most of the people leaving were black.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2799603/crowds-walk-obama-speech...
The blow to his ego must have been crushing... People walking out on the messiah, oh the horror...
But he knows each book deal is worth more than all of them will make in their lifetime, combined. So a little bit of the crushing feeling goes away. </pandering>
his post-presidency books will sell about as well as the "Parenting 101" book Charlie Sheen plans on writing ...
(or Gartman's "Investing 101")
More than just talk is needed to change course on this economy.
Job Situation: http://www.dailyjobcuts.com
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US Citizen, Press TV reporter dead in car crash near Syria 2 days after Turkey calls her a spy http://wtfrly.com/2014/10/20/us-citizen-press-tv-reporter-dead-in-car-cr...
Won't sell, but he'll still make millions.
Isn't it interesting that more and more we have to go to foreign media (the Daily Mail, the Guardian, RT, Al Jazeera, etc.)to find out what is really going on in the U.S.A.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/19/Exclusive-Obama-Admin...
It's quite a sight. A Mexican-American friend of mine says every illegal Mexican he knows has a job making $7-to-$15/hr. He said he cannot understand why there are so many Merikans out of work.
As Barry opens the flood gates more, not only for central merikans but also for Indians, Chinese, etc, you'll see the unemployment rate for native born citizens continue to rise.
Fot the next person whom proclaims that there is a difference between the Red Team and Blue Team...like YOU bitch.
The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA), Pub.L. 99–603, 100 Stat. 3445, enacted November 6, 1986, also known as the Simpson-Mazzoli Act,
signed into law by Ronald Reagan on November 6, 1986,
is an Act of Congress which reformed United States immigration law. The Act[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986
Note that Obama is just doing THE VERY SAME ACTION WHICH RONALD REAGAN ENACTED INTO LAW.
Ronald Reagan LEGALIZED illegal immigrants. He gave them RIGHTS and AMNESTY.
(And to think that I voted FOR Reagan...TWICE? I did not vote against his rivals. I voted FOR Reagan. I actually was a believer in the Government at that time? Hell...I would not do that again.)
There is absolutely NO DIFFERENCE between the two political parties. THERE IS NO FUCKING POLITICAL SOLUTION.
(I should have listened to Sting of "The Police" and his tune, "Spirits in the Material World" Ehhhh. Live and learn I guess.).
Now we will read the litany of Republican Apologist EXCUSES.
Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.
tom i just hate it when someone points out the obvious s/
fascism defined again...
the leaders leaders create laws to concentrate power where the money flows.
look at apples results-do u own an apple(no escaping).
billions of fox-CONN labor concentrated wealth returned to a few furthuring the power syndrome.
oh, thats right a corporation is an individual like you and I.
right before you cog dis eyes, you dumb motherfucker,ha...
humans suck
You are not alone . I live in Italy and often some news are only available on foreign websites. Like there in the USA , in Italy the mass media is totally controlled and they print only trivia about a foofballer , a rugby match or some gossip .
Wow!!! Where is the "Presidential Seal" on the podium??? Has there been a coup???
"If you want to leave my speech, you can leave my speech."
as always, there are perfectly logical reasons to explain what went on:
1) they went home to watch Sunday Football pre game shows
2) they heard about a special on hot dogs
3) rumor is that Ebola is transmitted by Obama's speeches which is why he hired a witch doctor (a.k.a. Ebola Czar, a.k.a. Jewish lawyer)
4) ISIS threatened to behead at least one attendee should they stay for the Obama speech
5) IMF Lagarde was holding a lecture on "magic numbers" next door
Keyser - Legalize them all then tax them. Cut benefits such as healthcare for anchor babies. Mexicans are getting a free ride for a vote. Let them work two jobs and support the system like whitey does these days.
Tax all outflows back to Mexico. We have enough of the. here to continue population growth in America. Seal the damn border already.
Not entirely.
i've seen several interviews where Putin responds directly to questions from confrontational journalists and he seems to do so of his own accord.
The interview with two French (agents) springs to mind.
Obama is nothing more than a puppet within the sales team.
Talking points.
Claim is "deliberate"
Fact is " just deliberations. "
Reality lawyering up.
"dead Americans good. " only thing better dead Christians.
bbc john sweeney low level mi5 or 6
a queen and an agent of the queen he so bbctavistock stable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF007qIYgiI
the same nutter trying to pull a fast one on putin
'The essence of Ukraine tragedy is..' Putin responds to BBC doorstephttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdpZ_Q7GR7I
Tony, usually I like your stuff, but in this case you are way off with respect to John Sweeney in that clip. He was at the time doing a critical investigation into Scientology, and so the scientologists spent all their efforts to destabilize him, pushing and goading him into exploding like he did.
I don't know what other work Sweeney has done for the BBC, but in this particular case he was undeniably doing good, as can be determined by watching the full piece:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9YQVJXaNK8
Walked out? Shame on them for even going!
There are people who still believe that voting matters, and are interested in their local politicians for whatever reason. Participation in their political system is part of their civic duty. At least they knew that smoke was being blown up their asses, and left.. maybe there is still hope?
If you vote, you are complicit in the crimes of governments.
Not if you vote with your feet.
Let's hope they only elect 3rd party candidates.
I don't know why people would show up to hear a red or blue candidate. Every sheep should know by now that they are wolves out to deceive and devour the sheep. At least a few walked out on Barry. No insult is bad enough for the kenyan con man.
"Let's hope they only elect 3rd party candidates."
No, let's hope they vote by not voting:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/10/chad-nelson/if-you-vote-2
Careful Dick, this time of year will get them all worked up with stuff like that.
Don't you know that we are in the fifteenth semi-annual "most important election in our lifetime?"
pods
Support the constitution of the U.S. by supporting the Don't Vote - 2016 campaign.
When some self-rightous bitch tells that you have no right to complain about the outcome, perform the following actions:
I vote for third party candidates I like, because I don't want to waste my vote on an R or D.
I mainly vote for the local propositions, and a lot of the ballot I leave blank because I don't like either candidate for various offices.
Cartridge boxes get more votes out of me than than ballot boxes anyway.
I don't blame people for not wanting to vote, though.
Geeze... I just made up the Don't Vote 2016 thing in my post, but someone already had a real facebook page for it last year. It hasn't been updated, but links to this interesting site, apparently defunct since the 2012 election.
The Internwebs - where all good ideas go to die.
Wow, all that effort when you could just do your revolution and solve everything.
It worked out well for the Bavarian Illuminati ran-and-controlled French Revolution didn't it?
The next part of this thread has people talking about the merits of voting versus not voting.
Can we do a general boycott? It is like REALLY not voting.
Money talks, bullshit walks.
Boycotts are more effective.
I closed my commercial bank accounts down and went to a credit union after the bailout bananza.
Most people "don't have the time" to even do that.
Yup. Have to agree, voting with your dollar makes more difference than anything else. Though, very soon that might mean 'voting with your yuan'.
Paveway IV, I looked it up and was shocked to find there's a whole Family of Paveways : ( LOL books written even!
Your comments are eye-popping! like the one on the nuke PP in Ukraine. WOW! Good work! Thanks : )
L'inMAO at the above but kinda waxing all melancholy at the ideal I thought the 99% Declaration would accomplish, but alas, I forked it. The National General Assembly did happen 04JUL12 but it was the historical opposite of the Continental Congress, much to the delight of TPers everywhere?
"NGA NOW! ALL roads lead to Philadelphia" (that whole redress thang)
good times. good times @#OWS
I abhor violence and don't seek revolution - I just want .gov to roll down their window so we can chat about my constitution.
LOL!!! Paveway, I like your Resolve!
"In one of his less famous rides, Paul Revere delivered a copy of the Resolves to the First Continental Congress in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, where it was endorsed on September 17 as a show of colonial solidarity. In response, John Adams commented in his diary: "This was one of the happiest days of my life. In Congress we had generous, noble sentiments, and manly eloquence. This day convinced me that America will support Massachusetts or perish with her."
The NGA wasn't about revolution either, merely petitioning for redress backed up by the promise that the delegates would start running in 2014 and 2016 if the redress fell short. DOTGOV missed the boat thanks to the MSM : (
I'm now trying to understand why.gov chose the path of least morality. That will come back to haunt Her (as we're already seeing), you can't fool Mother Nature...
ALL roads lead to Paris ; )
"...I'm now trying to understand why.gov chose the path of least morality..."
That's an easy one to explain. Some old, dead Polack had it figured out years ago.
The hard part comes when all us shaved monkeys have to figure out how to cure constitutional ebola - at home, in our spare time.
Amputation, Kegel exercises, liposomal vitamin C and petitioning the governemnt for redress have all proven most ineffective.
Yes, it seems petitioning was futile back then too, hence the Suffolk Resolves which led to the declaration of independence.
Like this article suggests, the possibility that after Paris, America finds itself home alone with time to spare because the other 7 billion people don't trust Her and are done with listening to Her blah blah blah might lead the monkeys to call a Third Continental Congress and come up with some truly radical revolutionary ideas. Anything can happen at the point of surrender : )
Or are you suggesting Article V? Petition for redress and ArtV are your constitutional methods for having that chat no?
Yes, they're the constitutional tools I'm suppose to have. Practically speaking, I have neither. Both of them were intentionally neutered in place by usurpers of the constitution. Some freakish derivative of both still exist, but they're merely extensions of TPTB control mechanisms. Attempting to use either one today is like a dog chasing its tail. Ultimately futile, but a great source of entertainment for our psychopathic masters.
I'm more inclined to start with the basics and let the rest evolve from that. When Joe Sixpack can understand the true nature of evil, he will recognize how easy it is for a person or an organization to become infected. Moreso, he will recognize his own risk of being infected. He will aslo be able to distinguish healthy people from sick people, and healthy organizaitons from sick ones. Without that capability and clairity, he or she will never understand a thing about the founding fathers' tremendous efforts towards psychopath-proofing the constitution and country. Likewise, they will never realize that those safeguards have failed over time and the current government IS both psychopathic itself and infested with psychopaths at every level.
If Joe Sixpack is incapable of understanding the nature of evil, then any petition for redress may as well have one, single demand: "More free shit for me, less free shit for everyone else."
Sadly I have to agree.
"You may be right, it's all a waste of time. I guess that's just the chance I'm prepared to take, a danger I'm prepared to face. Cut to the chase."
Is it not the case that the Sons Of Liberty are as nuetered as the constitution? Looks that way to me.
"It's the motor of the Western World, spinning off to every extreme. Pure as a lover's desire, evil as a murder's dream."
Where do we go from here? Paris. The basics are in the AR5 due to be complete this Halloween after many years in the works. J6P (all 7 billion+ of them) doesn't have a clue but the ones that usurped The Constitution sure are getting the drift. I am willing to fight for how things evolve on the road to Paris moreso than how things evolve after the meeting. So I drop little bombs on ZH ; )
Thanks for stopping to chat Paveway IV : )
RUSH-Cut To The Chase
+++++++++++++++
the basics I tell my Son and Daughter: don't smoke, look after your teeth, and never marry a lawyer lol
Dont' Rush me, bro...!
A couple of hundred years ago, the Sons of Liberty accomplished one amazing thing: they made the Crown show it's fangs without resorting to bloodshed to do it. They hurt the Crown's pride. Out came the fangs. People saw them. The rest is history.
Psychopaths in power will always resort to mass punishment when they're frustrated and pissed off. 100% guaranteed. It's their built-in, eternal weakness. It's their nature. The original Sons of Liberty didn't need Lobaczewski to erect a 40 foot high rotating neon sign with an arrow pointing to a 'Go full-retard' button on King George's head. They figured this out all on their own (without indoor plumbing and refrigerated beer, I might add).
Are the Sons of Liberty nuetered today? I woudn't say that, but they're not nearly as clever as their forefathers. Education? Peacerful protests? Petitions? [yawn...] I'm American - wake me up when I can see some fangs. Terrorism? Armed resistance? Violent protests? Meh... two groups of crazies, both showing their fangs. Just stay the hell off my lawn.
No Son of Liberty out there clever enough to hack the pride of TPTB and invoke the 'show fangs' function? If not, then maybe we deserve the government we have.
'Godspeed' Paveway IV , not my red or green arrows : )
Yes, that is the best plan. Simply don't vote. That way the vested interest bastards can get their way with virtually no opposition. No settling, no lesser of two evils, just simply surrender...give up, let them have their way with us. They're doing a pretty good job of it now and if we just step aside, it will be like we don't exist at all. Not even as livestock or sheeple, just invisible.
Maybe it would be a lot like just not fighting back because you know you are going to lose. Just lay there and hope they tire before killing you, any resistance only fueling their anger.
I suppose it doesn't dawn on many that about half of America doesn't vote now. Under this theme I guess its only makes sense that things can only get better with even less voting, right?
Yes, lets just keep keeping our heads down and hope it all blows over. Has the opossum "playing dead" routine ever really worked?
Besides, if we vote and the asshole we vote for really fucks us, we have to take the blame, right? Sometimes I wonder where personal responsibility begins. We have a democratic republic...if we can keep it...
Freedom is dependent upon daily vigilance of every person, not the heroics of a relative few.
A private bank prints up and loans the people's currency. Not exactly pegging the freedom meter.
Freedom's been dead for a hundred years.
Hell, a Bitcoin bumper sticker does more than voting.
If 5% of the people voted, and even fewer paid attention to what those who voted said and did, they would not be able to get away with so much so easy.
Hell, Chumba spending a month in the box has done more to promote liberty than all my past votes combined.
Voting is for you. So you can see the government as legitimate.
Because if you didn't, well, then that personal responsibility comes back into play (for real).
pods
Don't vote. It only encourages them.
It convinces the elite that the masses still believe in the system.
Exactly. The last community organizer that came by the house before the "get the fuck off my porch" sign went up was asking about politics.
She started in on the canned questions and I laughed and told her I was an anarchist and I didn't see it as right that some men get to rule over others.
She didn't really like that and went on about her way.
pods
That's mean, but fun. And satisfying.
So the question is, what is accomplished by not voting. Does anyone here believe that our protest non vote in anyway makes those ruling feel less in power? Does anyone think they give a rip anyway? Our vote is the only thing that matters to them. If it didn't, would they spend the incredible amounts of money to influence us? admittedly at this late date our vote has less effect than ever but what else is there. Simply waiting for a collapse and pretending anything that comes from it will be better? Who really believes that? So many here pound the table about looking at history, well how many times in history has an economical and societal collapse rendered something better than it replaced?
"...So the question is, what is accomplished by not voting..."
That's not the right question, Oldwood. Voting is part of the mechanism that needs to be in place in a democracy. When a part of the voting process (i.e., bribe-funneling through political parties that 'offer' the candidates) become so corrupt and so easily swayed by cash, then you need to replace that voting system with a new, bribe-resistant political process to restore democracy.
You're argument is a binary, learned-helplesness reaction: continue to use a flawed voting process or do nothing - we're powerless to do anything else.
It's as useless as the other equally-futile binary view: use the flawed system to fix the flawed system or do nothing - we're powerless to do anything else.
Notice what happened at Obama's speech - people just walked out. That's the absolutely most terrifying thing a psychopath can possibly imagine: loss of control. The current voting process and the current legal system have both been corrupted to be control mechanisms. They are self-reinforcing and will never spontaneously fix themselves. Walkind out on Obama (or not voting) don't fix anything. They are a symbolic throwing down of the gauntlet - a line in the sand - to give the healthy people left in government and the military a sign that healthy citizens back them. If you NEVER signal to the good, healthy people in the government and military that they have support, then they will continue to do nothing or just leave. It may already be too late - I have no idea.
The vote and the law are two links in a chain. If few people vote, then the elected candidates can only claim authority because of the law. So, yes - the first few non-vote elections will result in the same undesirable candidates elected, and they will hide behind the law to claim authority. Ideally, people in the government (and military) need to fix BOTH the vote and the law to restore the spirit of the constitution. You have to at least empower good people (by de-legitimizing crony politicians) and give that process a chance. Anyone that calls for an armed revolution first to 'fix' the broken voting process and the law is a psychopath.
Voting for any candidate is a YES vote to perpetuate the corrupt voting and legal system. Not voting is a vote against the continuation of business as usual. It's not suppose to make something happen. It's a communication method to signal to everyone else that supports the constitution that there are others out there. I could care less what the politicians immediately think or do as a reslult - the line in the sand is for US to contemplate, not them.
So, if I'm following you correctly, We should all stop voting so as to force the politicians to admit they hold office illegitimately, and somehow they will capitulate...step down or something worse like impose martial law upon us if challenged? What is it that forces this situation to a more desirable end, or is this desirable end anarchy? Yes, our choices suck but it is within our power to change it through the electoral system if we choose to pursue the goals in primary and local elections. The political system at the top can be no better than those who serve at its bottom. There are no electable heroes to save us, ultimately from ourselves. If the plan is to collapse this system by simply allowing corruption to meet it ultimate end, how many will it take with us? Maybe that is what is needed but it sure sucks. the reality is that our system reflects the will (or lack thereof) of it's people. Those of us who care, who see it for what it is, are left with ugly choices indeed. I just am not ready to surrender just yet and I see no advantage to facilitate an early end other than my own impatience because I see nothing better coming after. Even anarchy will still result in a strong leadership, likely one that doesn't represent the best interest of the people because if the best interest of people were dominant, we would have it now. Instead we have sheeple and worse.
No, I will continue to vote...with my ballot and with my money. I have a room full of guns and ammo but I have no illusions that they will solve anything more than voting, maybe keeping me afloat a few days longer.
Diebold.
Paper ballots.
Deep Government.
So will I.
I can't help but think, besides the thoroughly disgusted types there is a lot of progs not wanting small government types to vote at all.
We'll see how it goes this time, hell we got the completely batshit crazy Nana the fuck out of there last time and replaced her with cry baby Boehner (who is as spineless as a jellyfish when it comes to the Chamber of Commerce and illegal immigration) but he knows which side his bread is buttered on.
Now, if we can just take out McConnell ;-)
Not voting does more than just give a message: it can also be hugely transformative for the individual in question.
This is because we are constantly pushed (forced) to delegate everything about our health, politics and economy to other people, who are 'entrusted' to deal with it at that point, when in fact those are all things we should almost NEVER delegate to others (or at least never to the extent that we do).
People who stop thinking that some politician is the answer to their problems will start thinking of how THEY can solve their problems themselves.
And at that point, people start changing how they spend their money (fucking elites REALLY care about how we spend our money), and also start thinking of how they might work with other people to create BRAND NEW ways of organizing ourselves - ways that can't be corrupted because they are too transparent...
"...Yes, our choices suck but it is within our power to change it through the electoral system if we choose to pursue the goals in primary and local elections..."
I respect your opinions and nothing personal Oldwood, but BULLSHIT. I have heard that lie since the mid-sixties. I've watched the little people's efforts to fail for fifty years. How is it going to be different this time? How much more time do you need before you understand that THAT IS PART OF THE CONTROL MECHANISM. The little people get to choose the insignificant politicians, who never seem to get to the top. Trickle-up democracy is a cruel trick foisted on rubes that never learn better.
It's like telling dissatisfied slaves they can now vote for their master. They start by voting for the insignificant, low-level leaders. Eventually, those get voted to higher positions and some day, their candidates get to run for master! If they keep this up, they will eventually elect a master that will FREE all of them. Yay!
See the problem with that logic?
Now wait a minute, someone was fine with .gov (in Berkeley) demanding under penalty of law that pot shops (who paid good money for their products) "give reefer" to the homeless because they can't afford it...for medicinal purposes of course.
Those .gov peeps were elected by "someone", so who's controlling what?
Out of the 1000 useless, bad or extortion-like laws crammed down our throats, I didn't think a local medical pot-for-the-poor law affecting three dispenseries was the end of the world. In a perfect world, we could do without one.
I'm kind of passionate about a cheap, easily-grown, often-effective medicine being withheld from another suffereing human being because they can't afford it. I will agree with you a thousand percent that we shouldn't need to pass a f*king law to force that to happen in a seriously twisted bureaucratic hell of a system that, at it's core, still seeks to criminalize and control marijuana. On the other hand, I know damn well that the economy, legal system and medical system in California almost guarantee that - right now - there is some mother in Berkley with an epileptic child that will never have the ability to pay the artificially high price for a few weeks of pills for her kid. Instead, she's forced to pound lethal quantities of far less effective, but 'approved' pharmaceutical crap in her kid even though it doesn't help much. If she doesn't exist, then you can probably find someone with a parent with Alzheimers, a parent of a kid with Autism Spectrum disorder, or a homeless Iraqi vet with PTSD. If you can help one of them, it's worth letting the other nine out of ten free-shit-army scammers game the system and use the law to get some free smoke. Easy for me to say because I don't own a dispensary and feed my family from that business.
Yeah, it's fucked up and a shame. We shoudn't NEED a 'give your product away for free' law to help any of them. But then, the damn plant itself should never have been unconstitutionally declared illegal to begin with. And any one of those people should have always been able to grow medicine in their back yard for free. Or their friendly weed-growing neighbors shoud be able to give it to them voluntarily - for free. Because thats the decent thing to do and I have no doubt that would happen automatically. It does in Colorado. Several Colorado extractors will also process the plants for free. Take the government and the free-shit army out of the equation and most people act like normal, compassionate human beings.
"Easy for me to say because I don't own a dispensary and feed my family from that business."
Yes, it is very easy to hire someone to take what you think is right from another...not a slam but at least you recognize the problem and the peril if its reversed.
Agree with the rest, most people are basically good however, easily swayed ;-)
"...not a slam but at least you recognize the problem and the peril if its reversed..."
It is a slam but it's well-deserved - you're right to call me out. Psychopathy is a communicable disease. When normal people start 'fixing' the harm a horribly-broken system causes by concocting even more unconstitutional and harmful laws, a bitch slap is warranted.
There are three choices: vote, sit home and whine, or muster up a militia and start an armed revolution.
For now, I choose to vote.
Which camp are you non-voters in?
Well I for one take the fourth way. Educate others about what I know.
Avoid debt, as that is what really enslaves us. And I do what I can to generally muck up the sytem.
I actually swayed the former owner of the company I work for to look into money, how it comes about, and the history of how debt based currency came out in the US.
9 people out of 10 will call you a nut the first 20 times they hear you talk. 1 will get it.
Eventually, the others come about because they cannot understand why they keep slipping backwards eventhough things are "great."
And they cannot refute your arguments with logic, only emotion. And emotion only goes so far.
Try it. It works.
pods
I hear you, pods. I do try to educate as many people as I can. And you're right ... it's a tough slog. Nine out of ten call you a nut? Consider yourself fortunate. I think my experience is closer to 19 out of 20.
But, I still vote too. Voting and educating the masses are not mutually exclusive choices.
I get called a nut... by zero hedgers. So even 19/20 is excellent. I'm satisfied with 1 in a million being interested in the material I'm into.
A lot of people who are "awake" stop at politics and banking, and don't want to go to the next level of the occult, philosophy, sacred geometry, astrology, consciousness, mythos, and the holographic reality theories.
Convincing people the Fed was private in the 2000s was a chore enough. Telling people about the global information grid back then, I was dismissed as a paranoid geek who watches too much science fiction. Nowadays we have Edward Snowden blowing the lid off and its finally mainstream news.
Sow the seeds now. They might take a decade to sprout. I use Edward Bernay's techniques but to enlighten, not suppress.
Hehe... hooked on a little too much Michael Tsarion I see. Don't worry, you're not alone. +1
I choose NOT to crutch the System that's taking my wealth at the point of a gun!
"...So, if I'm following you correctly, We should all stop voting so as to force the politicians to admit they hold office illegitimately, and somehow they will capitulate..."
No. I already answered when I said that I don't give a crap what politicians think about such a protest. They will NEVER capitulate because even if .01% of the people voted, they would continue to envoke the law to claim authority. The current form of voting and the law are linked at the hip as a control mechanism. The people that got their positions IN that system will never be convinced to reform it.
I'm voting for restoration of the spirit of the constitution by refusing to vote in a system filled with politicians that wipe their ass with the U.S. constitution. I want to disembody the idea of freedom and liberty from the freakish, contrived voting and legal system. I'm not talking about local elections, I'm talking about the ones that matter. The god damn Park and Recreation board is not going to send my son or daughter to some overseas shithole to die for the oil companies or banks.
The current voting and legal system for important government offices has been built over years specifically to weasel out of the contstraints the founding fathers put in the constitution in order that it would not be subverted by the rich and powerful for their own personal gain.
Well, it has been subverted by the rich and powerful for their own personal gain. The founding fathers didn't want people to worship voting and the law as religions, they put them in place to (hopefully) protect your liberty and rights. If we screwed up and let them become corrupt, then fuck them. We are not a nation of voting and laws - that's just what the politicians want us to say. We're a nation of liberty and individual rights. Everything else is secondary and replaceable.
I will not vote because I will not elevate the current election process and the current legal system to the status of religious ceremonies. They are tools to ensure the spirit of the constitution is realized and they are both broken and preventing their own repair.
So what everyone who says to sit out the vote is saying that there is no difference between Obama and his alternatives. How do we know this? It would seem to me that if you did not vote and Obama won you found that outcome superior or equal to A Romney win. All of the shit we have watched happen over the last six years is nothing...Romney would have done the same or worse right? I just don't buy it. Romney was severely flawed, but Obama is a disaster and not one that will cause any positive responses. It seems as though there are plenty here that would be happy to suppress the voter turnout of anyone who wants change. We must accept that there are plenty out there happy as they can be with the way things are. They are getting their bennies, the entitlements, their government jobs and pensions. They don't want change and will vote to keep what they have. Those of us who want change are the ones that are suppressed with this bullshit. The republicans are weak, capitulating cowards only interested in perpetuating their power whereas the democrats genuinely want collectivist powers not just powers for their special cronies, but ultimate irresistible power that only a large, all encompassing government power structure can provide. I will take the dumb ass republicans any day and all of you who insist voting is fraudulent, a waste of time and that red/blue is a total sham only seek to perpetuate the continuing spiral into a fascistic socialistic, collectivist hellhole.
"...I will take the dumb ass republicans any day and all of you who insist voting is fraudulent, a waste of time and that red/blue is a total sham only seek to perpetuate the continuing spiral into a fascistic socialistic, collectivist hellhole..."
Again, you're bringing up the flawed reasoning that has failed you for fifty years: red (or blue) will fix everything. "...If only you fascist, socialist, collectivist bastards would get on the red (or blue) team, everything will be better..."
It's just tiresome to hear that every election cycle, Oldwood. Both sides are a cancer to the constitution - I don't care which one is less painful.
What I object to most in your reasoning is that I (or anyone who doesn't vote out of protest) am somehow responsible for the destruction of the constitution by not voting. In fact, I am objecting to either current party's destruction of the constitution and refuse to vote precisely for that reason.
I don't feel a bit of guilt for refusing to vote for the least destructive party - neither of them has the right to destroy the constitution for their own personal gain.
You are kidding right? They couldn't get away with this shit if no one listened to those who vote? What does that mean? Half of the people are getting paid by this government now. We have wholesale given our jobs away by turning a blind eye to illegal immigration and buying up every cheap piece of shit Chinese made toy manufactured. Americans have sold their soul to the lowest bidder and you suggesting that somehow not voting, not participating not paying and fucking attention would somehow put a spotlight on these assholes who make it their life's mission to sell us shit we don't need and can't afford is just insane. Please give me an example...
or are we waiting for the ninth Imam or the second coming of Christ to straighten our shit out, the stuff we won't do because it's beneath us, our principles preventing us from voting for someone impure of thought.
It has always been us against them, and to some degree, me against you if I'm competing for resources and such. It may suck, but our vote is all we have short of violence. The only thing greater is the vote of our pockets, how we earn and spend, but that is a battle already lost far worse than electorate considerations. We have spent ourselves into debt beyond comprehension and show no resistance to going even further underwater.
I never kid about these things. About voting yes, about the resolve to resist this corrupt and enslaving system no.
When you vote you are basically deciding on how you want the spoils divided up. Who to sock with the (perceived) bill and who you want running your own lives.
I am not witholding my vote waiting for another to save me. Free your mind, your ass will follow.
As for their power, that is all based upon condidence and obedience. People are resisting tyranny every day. Chumba just did time in a box for standing up. Many others too, every day.
You sound like you are full of emotion. That is one big way how they keep you down. Fear, greed, want, desire.
There are more than two paths. And who says voting is not violence. It is just state sanctioned and carried out violence on your behalf.
This whole government almost collapsed in 2008 due to US serfs not expanding the debt supply.
Now the government is over leveraged and the FED is chock full of crap due to them expanding the debt. What happens if us serfs refuse to go into debt again? To avoid banks for funds?
Collapse. Not a shot fired either.
pods
Company scrip.
I disagree. There are certain groups that always field candidates and that always vote, and if you don't vote, then members of those groups will always end up in office. But I think the best voting opportunity is almost always in the primary elections, because there's almost always at least one honest person running in the primary. At the national level, for example, Ron Paul. At your City Cmission or County Commission level, more examples.
Plus, they don't know who you voted for but they know that you voted, and if you ever need something, at least at the local level, you are going to get more response if they know you always vote. It's like being a good customer at a store: the management is much more likely to give you the benefit of the doubt if you have a problem, because they figure they'll get their money back from you later - as they will and should.
Ron Paul is an agent provocateur used to identify dissidents and potential revolutionaries.
Wake the fuck up, man.
Anyone believing there's still hope for America is sentimental fool stuck in the past. American govt is 90% communist now. Last 10% won't take long.
Only a few actually think about things, that's the problem.
So called 'democracy' is just the tyranny of the many over the few. The idiots win.
If you are waiting for the majority to open their eyes and blow the dust off their thinking apparatus...........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk
That should work out great while the Red and Blues preside over the counting of the votes.
Darned if he doesn't bear a strong resemblance to Frank Marshall Davis - especially the eyes.
Wonder how long before a military audience stands up and turns its back.
Frank Marshall Davis? Isn't that the guy that shot porno of his mother right around the time he was concieved? He was a open Communist too right? Maybe his is his father and not the Kenyan?
Next you will tell me Obama takes AIPAC's word verbatim as foreign policy.
Frank Marshall Davis, a Chicago commie who lived in Honolulu at the time Obama was conceived, his father? The man mentioned in Obama's memoirs as a 'father figure'.... I've been saying it for some time here, good to see the truth get traction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6gVc9GbtW8
Or...
http://www.obamasrealfather.com/
My local Congresswoman is named Suzan DelBene (I know, fucking stupid first name). The only thing she is running on is that she introduced a bill that Congress doesn't get paid if they don't pass a budget. That literally is the only issue she mentions in her campaign mailings. I mean, she will probably win re-election because WA state is full-retard liberal, but it's bizarre that whether Congress gets paid is the only issue she is touting.
You think that's bad, ours openly sucks the cock of Bloomberg and doesn't care who knows it.
She's got a damn good point.
Do you get paid if you don't do your job?
She's going to the root of the problem, albeit through a narrow outlook. A lot of the problems we have is because, Congress,as our representitives, have shirked their responsibilities to protect and defend the Constitution as well as the people who put them there TO DO WHAT WE PAY THEM TO DO.
Why pay an empty suit for an empty seat?
Another thing - I just had my FY15 benefits meeting with my company. I think it's safe to say that most of my co-workers are Democrats and many of them are probably quite liberal. But there was and is palpable anger about Obamacare. Costs are increasing, deductibles are increasing, coverage is decreasing. So, Obama can tout that 10 million people who didn't have health insurance now have it, but there are 90 million other workers who are paying for it. And they know it.
Just wait until the sheeple realize that when Chief Justice Roberts declared Obamacare "individual mandate" was in fact a TAX and NOT an insurance premium payment, that effectively releases insurance companies from having to pay any benefits at all whatsoever in return for the tax collectd by them on behalf of the Fed.Gov. Stick that in your co-workers ears and watch the dawning of recognition in their ovine eyes!! or NOT!!!
Its not easy or painless for us all to be "equal". Quickly closing on the proximity of zero, we are all equal when dead. Obamacare is about power, not taxes, not healthcare. Power. This is why the republicans are backing off repealing it now. They see the power it holds and they want it for their own "good deeds". They just want to fix it, just like how I had my dog "fixed". They have us by our balls, or at least the few remaining that still have theirs.
WOOOOOOOOOOO!
I think Tyler meant that a "Mass Folks Exodus" occured.
They cut the payments in half for the astroturf audience. So they only stayed for half the rally.
That's the best takeaway from the story!
They could have even been paid to walk out!! LOL!
Your characterization of the crowd as "astroturf audience" is quite ugly.
But having said that, I wanted to report that I live not too far away from Upper Marlboro. I know it to be nearly all black. A lot of tobacco is grown there. The late William Zantzinger (Bob Dylan fame) owned a tobacco farm and rented out dwellings with no plumbing and dirt floors as recently as 1990. The news made the UK papers. They had photos of the crowd which indicated that it was basically al black. The photos in the US news were far less explicit. I wouldn't go so far as to suggest that the US papers intentionally avoided revealing the racial makeup of the crowd.
Having said all of that, it is safe to conclude that a vast number of blacks walked out on Obama andLt Gov (soo to be governor) Brown. It is also noteworthy that the UK papers reported it. Who in the UK would care? I wouldn't care who walked out on David Cameron. Make of that what you will. To me, it doesn't sound so positive for the TOTUS.
You sayin they won't vote democrat?
Nigga please.
pods
"I had a dream...."
One of the captions in the UK Telegraph quipped something like, 'Once they got their iPhotos, they headed for the exits.'
I can only guess what will happen on election day. I would venture that the UK journalist had some insight. Lots of "folks" (I hate that characterization - call me citizen or American please) probably just wanted to see the Chosen One, The Messiah, in person on a Sunday afternoon so they could tell theor grandkids about it. They all knew that the same old drivel would come out of his mouth, showed some common sense and left. Would they vote for the same old drivel, if they could vote with their ObamaPhones from worrk? Of course. Will they bother going to a polling place? Not as likely. The governor race, with candidate Brown being black, would actually help Obama if he were in a contest. Stated differently, Brown would have done Obama more good than Obama could have done Brown should the places be reversed. Questionable risk/benefit on Brown's part having Obama around.
Nancy Pelosi's b*&ch, aka Chris van Hollen, will likely get another term. He lives just a few blocks away. I might have seen five lawn signs so far. That tells me two things: 1) the contender - if there is one - is a lightweight, 2) the Democratic machine thinks the race is in van Hollen's pocket (no doubt correct), and 3) most importantly, they are scared s&^tless about the Senate and ran the risk of not spending money on van Hollen to support the likes of Sens Franken, Hagan and Landrieu. That is probably good strategy, but it says something.
Look for O'Malley (gag) to give Hillary a run for her money. I would favor him if Hillary pulls out. Who else is there. Van Hollen (gag) will be a US Senator for MD someday. Gag. Gag. Gag.
I called his office last week to carp about open invitations to Ebola carriers. They said, "There are do direct flights from Africa.' Said, 'WTF, fly to Italy and then here. What BS are you trying to pull over on me? The late Mr. Duncan didn't fly here directly and he infected two others. Since when does a multi leg trip expunge Ebola from the system?'
The amount of melanin in the dermis is hardly a reliable way to judge a person's character, I find.
One reason why I like the internet so much.
pods
I also live nearby (down in Calvert). Not only was that audience 80+% black, but likely at least half federal workers! What does that say?
That Popeye's was a big hit for the catering?
pods
I watched the video all the way to the end and there were no signs of people leaving. The roars of approval were deafening. Wooot! Obama is looking very presidential (FDR) and could easily secure a third term with Ebola causing a national emergency.
I dunno...sure looks like they are spliting in these photos. Maybe the stand up front with the free Obama phones and free Obama cheese ran out.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2799603/crowds-walk-obama-speech...
I max out the files storage on my Obama phone with selfies of a cardboard cut out Obama in the Dulles International Airport book store.
my Obama in-action figure has started weeping! it's amazing!
I can understand people leaving early. What defies explanation is why anyone would show up in the first place.
But what you do notice is that when he starts talking about two-earner families struggling at the end, the audience gets very quiet. Like their own experiences are contradicting the bullshit coming from Obama.
Hmm, could it be that they're actually holding down 3 (or more!) jobs?
Why are people downvoting you for this? Did other people not watch the video?
Hey! I thought that video was going to show the mass exodus, but all I heard was his same old teleprompter crap. I want a full refund for misleading advertising and will sue for medical injuries sustained by listening to that speech and watching his nose get longer! ObummerCare won't cover that kind of injury, so it was all out of pocket!
"I want to look him straight in the eye and tell him what a cheap, lying, no good, rotten, far flushing, snake licking, dirt eating, inbreed, overstuffed, ignorant, blood sucking, dog kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat assed, bug eyed, stiff legged, spotty lipped, worm headed, sack of monkey shit he is!!! Halleluah!! Holy shit!! Where's the Tylenol??"
You are silly to think a sociopath cares.
Actually some blow, hookers, & booze will make you feel better.
<until you wake up>
dog eating,
fixed it for ya :)
Obama is THE Ebola for our country, we've got 48% chance of survival rate!
Wake those white blood cells up and fight this virus!
Any President that makes it through their term(s) unscathed dont care...
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The only chance that MAYBE one does - is if they were snuffed out...then a possibility that they cared.
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The US President is just a limb of the beast that rules us.
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But - hey, lets go vote (again).
I can recall no president that upon departure had everyone saying: "What a guy! Wish he stayed for the 3rd!" I think it's a part of acceptance strategy developed by our masters. The more we hate the last puppet the more eager we will be at accepting the next carbon copy. That way it'll seem like there's a difference, a progression.
Every president I remember is cheered in and booed out for running on an identical set of promises and ending up with a similar resolve.
I think the term lengths are based solely on how long it takes for the audience to loose their memory of the last election campaign. Sometimes the memories are still fresh, so they give the sock puppet another term to numb the pain, and then the circus starts over.
I don't care about Obama at this point. Fuck the next guy!
That's my 2016 election placard:
"Fuck the next guy!"
All that is needed is accountability. If these assholes knew they would be held to account for their lies and underhanded dealings shit would change. Instead, we all understand that the promises mean nothing and we compensate for that. Obama can imply he will replace the constitution with Marx Das Kapital and we all assume its all shit and would never happen. Ultimately we believe what we want to believe which is almost always a lie. The problem is that the truth persists, maybe unseen, but in action at all times. And as you say, our memories are short...unless we are constantly reminded of the injustices perpetrated on long lost relatives. Responsibility will never take the place of revenge. We are some dumb ass animals. Its a wonder we don't have it worse than we do.
Should shun all these useless fucks.
Yep, shunning anyone in power will help this situation more than voting, that is for sure.
Seems our oppressors are always showered with accolades and given that "more equal than others" treatment.
pods
99% of them don't. That's the hilarity of it.
This is encouraging to see. Ignore both parties, let them bathe in red wine and chase hookers and enjoy free printed money from the Fed until the empire burns.
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The republicans are going to rout the democrats this election. It's assured. There will be terrible turn out, particularly among young and minority voters. The polls won't reflect how badly turn out is going to be because everyone says they'll vote until the day of the election.
These next two years will be the republicans pushing issues that obama will have to veto and they'll be beating up on him the entire time. It's not looking good for the democrats at all.
If it really matters (erosion of rights in particular), the two parties will both support it. Haven't seen anything to make me challenge that point of view yet.
the republicans will rout the democrats?
i think you might be surprised...
when your base is bought and paid for...
community organizers are out in force....
"do you really like your 'assistance'....
If voting could change anything they'd make it illegal.
They don't even need vote fraud. Who the hell wants to support Chris Christie or Mitt Romney anyways? The richie rich Republican Party is so out of touch with the common folk, they don't stand a chance.
At least the democrats offer section 8, obamaphones, EBT, WIC, Medicaid, and other services that common folk actually use every month. This is why democrats will have a one-party system going thus forward.
The ONLY reason why Republicans are even remotely relevant is their pro-gun stance. If democrats became pro-gun, they would win for the next century hands down.
'cause only republicans are rich?
the Dems are out of touch across the board. funny how their locked in supporters can't even rub enough brain cells togethe to heat up a whole that that would make them realize the dems have been screwing them HARD for decades now.
The dems are not out of touch with the mass numbers of sheeple.
Majority rule is what wins elections in this democracy, er I mean republic.
Republicans offer JOBS, where joe six pack makes $8 an hour and he busts ass all day to make his masters rich, meanwhile he goes home with only a pot to piss in with the wages.
Democrats offer subsidies for the poor, which is now the majority in this country now, and that's what most Americans want.
A low income person has a choice of moar jobs or moar handouts. Gee, it's not hard to see which is moar attractive.
I'm surprised (not really) that I got so many downvotes because I tell people what they would not like to hear or read.
As for the low-information voter meme pushed by Michael Weiner, he perfectly describes most Republican voters also. You debate a Republican on war, medicare, or social security and they love big government even more than the democrats do. When welfare goes to old people or corporations, its good; if someone gets section 8 and ebt, its socialism and bad.
Yes dems are rich too. But they at least know talking points to coax the laborers that make their empires successful. See as Buffet.
This is why democracy ultimately fails. The majority has the power to vote themselves benefits at the expense of the producers. If this country returned to its roots as a republic many problems would resolve but it would be certainly painful to those who have benefited from the status quo.
I frankly don't care which party espouses a pro-gun stance. Both parties pay lip service to everything so they are never to be trusted. Their ideologies shift like the wind. Owning a gun and knowing how to use it properly should be the goal of every citizen whether or not it is sanctioned by the State.
Miffed
Well we can always go back to, property owning men voting. You know if you have a stake in the game you get to vote.
Add to it that no one who receives .gov $$ gets to vote. That includes teachers, cops, welfare/EBT recipients, military, judges-all .gov employees from the local level to the national level. Only property owners with their own non-.gov income, yaknow, the people who actually do something real for a living, get a vote.
@miffed
You might not care about a politician's pro-gun stance, but for the typical rural voter, that is their priority one issue.
Considering Republicans have a rural base in an electoral college system, and democrats get rejected when they go after guns, and rural voters only get involved in politics to "defend the second amendment", that is the ONLY thing keeping the republicans the tiniest amount relevant.
If democrats flip 180 degrees and support guns, we'll have a one-party system. Besides the democrats know AR-15s are useless against drones, bioweapons, and nanotech, they will have this game in the bag.