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Public Health Expert Explains How to Prevent a Panic About Ebola: Tell the Truth!
The head of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota – Dr. Michael Osterholm – is one of the world’s top infectious disease experts and a prominent public health scientist.
Dr. Osterholm just gave a talk shown on C-Span, explaining how to prevent the public from panicking about Ebola:
I categorically reject the idea that you can’t tell people you “don’t know” … because you’re afraid you’ll scare them.
There is a complete [scientific] literature on risk communications that says people are never frightened if you tell them you don’t know, but “this is what I’m doing to learn”. Or [if you tell them] “this is something, and it might be very scary.”
The literature shows – over and over again – there are 2 things that will turn them to be very concerned … if not scared.
One is if you tell them with certainty “A”, and then you tell them with certainty “B”, and then A and B don’t happen … or they happen in a way you didn’t tell them. Then they wonder about your credibility.
The second thing is if you get dueling banjos. If you get one one person saying A, and another person saying “oh, you’re going to scare people, don’t say that” … because it’s not true. The literature supports that’s when people get concerned.
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One of the worst enemies we can have today is dogma. Dogma should be, at the first instance, the thing we jettison immediately Do not fall into the trap of dogma. I see far too many today doing that for the fact that they want to reassure the public about A,B or C … and that is a dangerous path.
And see this.
Dr. Osterholm gives an example: the medical community is trying to downplay the fact that some people with Ebola never have a fever … right up until the time they die. The failure to talk openly about this fact will only end up shaking people’s confidence:
(And temperature screening is easily fooled, even when an Ebola carrier does have a fever.)
One of our recurring themes is that happy talk doesn’t fix anything.
Giving false assurances only backfires … instead making people lose trust in their governments and institutions, and increasing their fear.
Bonus: Top Ebola Experts: This Strain Is Much Worse Than We’ve Ever Seen Before (Video)
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Dear George,
I will send this by email as well.
Like most ZH readers I'm frustrated as hell, and I've finally done something small about it. Please consider promoting this video for your readers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NwuSSoMP_k
The Ebola Singularity
covered:
1. The virus has outpaced every estimate to date
2. Present efforts to stop the plague are based on four lies that Mr. Obama desperately wants you to believe
3. Effects will go far beyond the virus itself and will constitute the chief initial danger for western countries
4. Proof that Mr. Obama brought Ebola to America on purpose
5. The end of the democrat party
6. Questions for Mr. Obama
7. The seven people who can do something about this today
8. Appeal to the private sector
It's is a fight-club type production, no holds barred. Within a few minutes of watching it you will know it is 1. REAL and 2. Exactly what we need to be saying now. You won't have to watch it all to know it's worth watching and sharing. Please help me spread it, it's anonymous (I have enough problems now without begging for attention from TPTB, my wife is in a hospital bed in my living room.)
I've read exhaustively on this subject, and we are not making all the arguments we need to make, I fill in some gaps. Among specific things covered:
- The extent of prior knowledge about transmissibility
- The evolution of govt. demands in the area
- proof Mr. Obama brought it here on purpose, intends to bring more cases, intends to have people arrive hot, intends us ill.
- The seven people who can make a difference
- How Mr. Obama earned the moniker "President Pimp"
- how the left wants to almost literally neuter Latino men
- why this is the END of the airline industry's current business model
- why the transmissibility/symptomatic threshhold doesn't hold here
And a lot more. I've cut it into a number of excerpt videos so that you can get a flavor for it. Some are as brief as three minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviGANs_AUOvGbsGb7AfkJw
Thank you for your tireless efforts. I'm working part time now until this plays out, I'll be posting updates. Fuck me - is this what your entire life is like?
Other ZH members: Please share this video. I get NOTHING from it.
Thank you
"Abundance of caution"............. the new freedom stealing catch-phrase.
Ebola is truth all else is lies.
These folks are covering up a huge crime. No way will they say a word about Ebola.
HA HA
Our elitist power brokers tell the truth?
How naive.
What is the truth?
Is the Ebola outbreak at all connected with Pentagon attempts to weaponize the virus?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-liberian-scientist-claims-the-u-s-is-resp...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/what-are-us-biological-warfare-researchers-...
Does the lack of medical infrastructure in Africa have anything to do with a history of US-European colonialism, support of assorted African dictators willing to enrich themselves by selling out their country's resources, IMF loans and neo-liberal trade agreements, and attacks on any African leaders who attempt to implement beneficial economic reforms, such as establishing an independent (of IMF) African bank?
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j070703.html
Why is it that an expansive military can be so amply funded and can be purported as the go-to organization to provide services antithetical to the core military mission?
Why does Cuba send medical personnel, and the US send soldiers and bio-warfare researchers?
It's not just the spread of Ebola, which may not even be the worst health problem. There is pollution and the protected war industry polluters, debilitating foods, toxic farming and agricultural methods,
And does the lack of medical infrastructure in US neighbors from Haiti to Mexico have anything to do with past and current US policies and military incursions?
Time for a vomit trip to Washington DC.
"Every government is run by liars,” independent journalist I.F. Stone observed, “and nothing they say should be believed.”
The above is the TRUTH....
Duh!
Treating people like they are stupid does 2 things:
1. Destroys any trust you might have a chance to develop.
2. Really pisses them off and makes them want to get someone else in your position who can do the job right.
In an interview conducted in 2007, a prominent Russian scientist who defected to the United States told PBS Frontline that Ebola is just one of many genetically engineered bioweapons:
(See: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/... )
Dr. Kanatjan Alibekov was the former First Deputy Director of Biopreparat from 1988 to 1992. Biopreparat was the Soviet Union's biological weapons program. Alibekov defected from the Soviet Union and moved to Washington, DC in 1992... In the 70s and beginning of 80s the Soviet Union started developing new biological weapons -- Marburg infection biological weapon, Ebola infection biological weapon, Machupo infection, [or] Bolivian hemorrhagic biological weapon, and some others.
The U.S. Dept. of Defense mirrors all biological weapons developed by the Russians, of course. And as the theory goes, they need to be tested somewhere to see just how well they work. Why not target a bunch of rural Africans? After all, that's what Pfizer did with its own vaccine experiments that killed African children.
http://havacuppahemlock1.blogs...
the U.S. & Russia , also N Korea
confirmed by JAMA in 2002
http://bioterrorism.slu.edu/bt/news/jama_vhf.pdf
See page 3 for details
Broken Link so here's the correct PBS link:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/plague/interviews/alibekov...
Tell the truth, else people will start filling in the gaps on their own, and they'll not always get it right. This leads to panic.
Isn't dogma the foundation of life for most ZHers?
ZH karma runs over dogma on a daily basis.
The government quarantine stand-down is the same type of government stand-down that took place on 9/11/01.
The patented Ebola, a designer war germ agent, is real and is controlled by the powers in Washington that spent billions to develop the biological warfare agents.
A neo-con globalist will tell you that “What is the use of having a weapon if you do not use it; all options are on the table”.
Being Muslim, and black in Africa, could be a fatal condition. Better yet, Ebola can be used against the American terrorist that want to bring the criminals in Washington to Justice for Treason to the American People, our democracy, and the United States of America.
The battle for Africa’s resources by Washington’s globalist is real.
Our military objective of forming USAFRICOM is real with the addition of 4,000 new American “boots on the ground”. Do you think the American troops will catch Ebola or will they be immune to the disease?
George,
Any truth in this story?
http://nationalreport.net/cdc-whistleblower-exposes-ebola-vaccinations-c...
In reply to Dexter Morgan: I read the report and here are a few excerpts from the report.
“A CDC whistleblower has recently gone on record to expose nefarious government plans which would use the impending US Ebola pandemic as an opportunity to implant RFID technology in American citizens.”
“Brent Hopskins was a CDC contractor before coming forward with serious allegations against his former employer. Hopskins claims that an Ebola vaccine has been prepared for the general public in the form of disposable, one-use syringes.”
“RFID chip will work toward more easily identifying and separating those who have been inoculated and those who have not. Individuals who refuse to receive the Ebola vaccination will face serious hurdles in gaining employment, visiting public places, obtaining future medical care, and even potential prison time.”
- See more at: http://nationalreport.net/cdc-whistleblower-exposes-ebola-vaccinations-c...
NVM - http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/rfidebola.asp
not that Snopes can always be trusted, but sounds right on this one........
Vaccination campaigns have been used for nefarious purposes both inside & outside the U.S. , so this is quite possible.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/secret-project-created-weaponized-ebola-in-...
Ive heard doctors in the media using the Ebola 'outbreak' as a platform to push the flu shot this year, since getting the flu is more' probable' & thus far has killed more people annually . & Many buy into this shit hook, line, & sinker.
The point being is that ANY vaccination can be modified to serve the purpose of those doing the vaccinating. Do we REALLY know what's in those needles? No we do not. Do we really WANT to know ? I sure the hell don't & havent for >10 years.
The culture of healthcare (& soon to be the general population) is one of threats & intimidation based on pseudo science & now, the law. We 'must' be vaccinated or else lose our job , outside of the mandate to wear a mask at all times. Slowly your right to the protection of yourself, your personal property, otherwise known as Your Body - is being violated & taken away. & this is anti constitutional .
Those asleep at the wheel who get their shots , pills, & drugs because Doc says so , are being corralled into experimentation without their consent .
How long until our freedom of choice is completely eradicated? Not long at all it seems.
Losing trust in government or institutions is the beginning of wisdom. As a child, by observation, you determine your parents can be trusted. As you grew, you were instructed to trust in larger entities, but failed to observe results.
The delusion is that trust is earned or lost by rational thought, but the reality is that the sheeple so dearly crave a leader or a superman that they ignore the obvious and chose to remain sedated with continued trust.
Panic occurs when sheeple lose a present trust and screech for a new superman.
Yes, but Bath House Barry is Dicktaster and he always lies.
I watched the video yesterday and I thought, if I had a vaccine or a cure drug, this is who I would have control its use. No ifs ands or buts No government czar, no CDC or WHO or other acronym.
Doctors Without Borders and Oxfam are doing great jobs. Cause they ain't from Merica.
The TRUTH .......sumptin' Obama knows nothing bout'
It ain't called the pathological liar in chief for no reason.
Telling the truth is far too radical to be in "Rules For Radicals", Obama's version of holy scripture.
Guinea: "Health officials killed by mob who believed they were infecting people with the virus".
"On 17 September 2014 a mob of villagers killed an 'Ebola Awareness team' in a village about 900 km from Guinea's capital. The Guinea correspondent reported that locals attacked the team, which comprised local administrators, two medical officers, a preacher, and the three journalists.
According to the correspondent, the villagers instigated this attack because they thought Ebola "is a political lie orchestrated by the authorities and that the disease is not real." This follows previous riots in Nzérékoré in August after rumours that health officials who were disinfecting a market were infecting people with the virus."
One Guinea native said that Ebola is being spread by Doctors Without Borders, a charity with Zionist connections.
Is it coincidental that the death toll in Guinea stopped growing after these incidents prompted their government to stop sending in such 'teams'?
For those who haven't seen it yet. Water wells poisoned with probably paraformaldehyde in Africa:
http://www.liberianobserver.com/security/breaking-formaldeyde-water-alle...
If you live connected to a public water supply you better start thinking of alternatives.
And if you feel like a lemming then get a vaccination this year.
Well, at least they changed their schtick from formaldehyde to paraformaldehyde. Of course, para has a very low solubility in water.
Love the hack website too (Liberian observer). Almost seems just like a regular paper.
Of course, it is registered to a corporation in Silver Spring MD.
http://www.whois.net/whois/liberianobserver.com
Cell phone is a DC phone too.
I smell something, and it isn't formaldehyde.
pods
So share with us what you smell. Truth is an elusive thing these days.,
Well mostly BS to be honest. Truth will be found out years from now, if ever.
What I mean is that the government is first and foremost there to protect itself.
They can justify almost anything as being "national security" including poisoning the information well with this stuff in order to muddy the water.
Whether this type of article (that you linked) is to provide causality for it spreading fast (Africans stopped seeking treatment due to this superstition) or to stop people from gathering honest information I don't know.
I do know that there seems to be a very large drought in terms of information about suspected cases in the weeks past.
Government CYA at it;s finest.
pods
The Truth???
I have been told in my own household to lie. When asked by the GF if she is gaining weight, what do you suppose my options are to tell the truth? When out in a public event say, at dinner with the neighbors when the subject approached gay marriage, to avoid any comments since the daughter of the couple, 'came out' last week.
Since my knowledge of the nearly 90% of the players in the Mortgage Fraud, Voter ID commonsense, the names of the Supremes, and their inexcusable bias---------------
the truth, I am convinced, is treasured by a tiny minority who refuse to live under a fictional construct of life as ordered by Power, teachers, bosses, wives, or others who seek authoritarian control.
The masses WANT to be lied to. Most politicians of course realized this early on and have made lucrative careers for themselves with this 'truth': Lie To ME.
dead on
They ask for the truth, but when you give it to them, they lash out. No appreciation for honesty, so they shouldn't be surprised when they get lied to. The problem is people only want to hear good things. Notice how you're always hearing about "being positive" and "if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all" and other junk like that? Well the truth isn't always positive and happy, and some people can't accept that.
"They ask for the truth, but when you give it to them, they lash out."
Yes, and call you a Conspiracy Theorist. A cooked up term made up by the Pure Evil Psychopaths in the PsyOp labs of the CIA.
Maybe some people deserve to bleed from their eyes and ass at the same time.
"I ain't got time to bleed"
Yah, specifically the liar in chief, its ruling elite & all the elected political career turds.
I don't think they can afford to tell the truth, it would go something like this:
We sat by and did absolutely nothing about this current outbreak when it first erupted in Africa. We allowed the virus to spread for 5 months ensuring it reached international airports. This virus has always been suspected of being airborne. We then decided to fly infected patients to the US in inadequate containment. We then allowed people who were treating the infected to wear inadequate protections. At this point we decided it was prudent to promote the travel of exposed medical staff. We are still flying people in from infected countries. Finally, we spent 50 billion on bioweaponry in 2011 alone.
"... and we let one go on a cruise."
You also have to wonder about a system that spends untold amounts of money on studying/researching bioweapons, but only has about 10 beds if a virus escapes their lab. (A Bio-Safety Level 4 virus.)
We have an extremely virulent pathogen running rampant in west Africa , & yet a month after reaching the states, it's burned out already?
Only 2 infected from initial patient zero so far . Granted those 2 were health care workers dealing more closely with the patient at a time when he was theoretically most infectious, still something does not add up.
Classic Ebola , as history point out, is extremely virulent & can spread rapidly. Statistics would show that the lack of infections among Mr. Duncans initial close contacts (those who were not wearing PPE when he initially started showing symptoms) , is an anomaly.
Either A) There are more positive cases who may in fact be receiving prophylaxis treatment that we are not being told about.
B) this virus was modified to be a less communicable version of Ebola,or a longer incubation period (though the amount of time by which the 2 healthcare workers became positive might argue against this).
C) those with supposed symptoms who have been tested are showing false negatives.
D) We are being completely bullshitted in order to prep us for the worst to come.
It's not "us". It's the grosslyl incompetent arrogant sociopathic pathological liar in chief & its ruling elite turds.
George,
About this "truth" thing. It's really kinda vague. Have you polled the numbers on that? We have, and we just don't see a way to really leverage that. Could you be a little more specific?
Page not updated since 2013...last reviewed July 2014...nothing about Ebola.
Failure on a grand scale is what is scary.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/dgmq/
Eeeeebola, sounds like a bad throat lausange from Switzerland.
Thank you so much for the Michael Osterholm clip. What a relief to hear someone talking about things with honesty and intelligence.
The cover up is always worse than the crime. Truth is completely alien to TPTB.
The good doctor evidently doesn't understand how political reality works in Obamaland....
I do not agree with that assessment. Truth is, TPTB know EXACTLY "the truth", or whatever we mean by that iealistic and elusive term. Anyway, they know the facts and how things work, THEY OWN the freackin system. So they knowingly commit crimes, and cover up with mis-information, manipulation, fraud, bribe, MOPE, u name it. Both are wrong. And they know it darn well, but they just don't care - after all it's them that profit from it (for now). They'll let the hammer drop when they think they are ready.