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VIX Has Never Done This Before... Ever

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Never, in the history of VIX - the so-called 'fear-index' - has this ever happened before...

The last 3 days have seen VIX drop 12.74%, 15.55%, and 13.4% today... VIX has NEVER dropped more than 10% for 3 days in a row ever

h/t @RyanDetrick

 

And here is VIX today - does that look in any way normal or efficient to you!!??

 

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And then there's this from last week - As Nanex shows, S&P 500 e-mini futures liquidity dropped to the lowest ever...

 

Connected? Who knows...

 

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Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:10 | 5360888 NaiLib
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Isnt there a roll over in VIX this week?

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:15 | 5360896 observer007
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Your PRIVATE Reuters Newsticker:

http://tersee.com/#!q=reuters&t=text

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:17 | 5360920 negative rates
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So is it down to 6 yet? That's the legal bottom.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:29 | 5360965 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Ride the rocket up and wait for the later crash. It is coming.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:32 | 5360979 gatorengineer
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calling the inflection points is the bytch

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:58 | 5361062 rocker
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Zero Hedge surely helped feed the fire. Maybe we go 4 or 5 days now.

What happened to the alligator jaws.   Hmmmm. 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:41 | 5361250 ACP
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It will go on for a little more than that probably. Always a short squeeze before QE ends, then the diarrhea afterwards.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:46 | 5361262 Xibalba
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hard to believe there's still people playing with this shat

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:09 | 5361337 Stuck on Zero
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Where are the trading bots?

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:15 | 5361355 QEternity
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The shitstorm is coming close enough to smell

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:49 | 5361451 El Oregonian
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How do you catch a monkey with a small shiney object and a cage. They just will not let go of the shiney object to save thier lives.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 21:21 | 5361755 markmotive
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On the back of JP Morgan giving the green light to the bulls.

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2014/10/is-jp-morgan-giving-green-light-to...

 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 23:04 | 5362054 chumbawamba
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OMG EBOLA!

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 05:06 | 5362507 plane jain
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Eh, more like lack of ebola. Ebola in the so called first world countries was a big worry in the markets due to possible economic effects (people not shopping, not travelng, etc.).

Now the first batch of those under watch have gotten the all clear, second batch of people under watch with no new cases and the news cycle will have moved on in time for Black Friday.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 08:38 | 5362652 SoilMyselfRotten
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Me thinks before this is over the phrase 'this has never happened before' shall be heard often

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 08:28 | 5362737 dontgoforit
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 A fisherman from the city was out fishing on a lake in a small boat. He noticed another man in a small boat open his tackle box and take out a mirror. Being curious, the man rowed over and asked, "What is the mirror for?"
>
> "That's my secret way to catch fish," said the other man. "Shine the mirror on the top of the water. The fish notice the spot of sun on the water above and they swim to the surface. Then I just reach down and net them and pull them into the boat."
>
> "Wow! Does that really work?"
>
> "You bet it does."
>
> "Would you be interested in selling that mirror? I'll give you $30 for it."
>
> "Well, okay."
>
> After the money was transferred, the city fisherman asked, "By the way, how many fish have you caught this week?"
>
> "You're the sixth," he said.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:50 | 5361453 El Oregonian
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How do you catch a monkey with a small shiney object and a cage. They just will not let go of the shiney object to save thier lives.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:50 | 5361454 El Oregonian
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How do you catch a monkey with a small shiney object and a cage. They just will not let go of the shiney object to save thier lives.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:30 | 5361605 RockyRacoon
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Mmmkay.  You now have 3 monkeys.  Now what?

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 21:46 | 5361837 Professorlocknload
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Throw 'em somethin' shiny?

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 21:47 | 5361843 messymerry
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Stew...  ;-D

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 22:30 | 5361978 mt paul
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start an ebola epidemic 

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 06:11 | 5362552 LithiumWarsWAKEUP
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f'g Ads in my way..... I can't read the thread. 

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 06:29 | 5362565 new game
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try an ad blocker, its like removing the msm from your life...

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:31 | 5361611 acetinker
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I know the metaphor, but the monkeys are out in force, or so it seems.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 21:34 | 5361797 runswithscissors
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~and then the monkeys start flinging poop

 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 23:49 | 5362177 BlindMonkey
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Rws, fuck you.

/s.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 21:41 | 5365956 acetinker
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As you know, there are several species of monkey.  One flings poop at Russia and Syria while still another indiscriminately flings poop in all directions.  The interesting thing is, that these monkeys are not indigenous to Africa.

The ones who target Russia and Syria seem to trace their ancestry to the US.  Whereas, the ones who indiscriminately fling poop in all directions seem to have their roots in Tel Aviv.

Since you run with scissors, you might appreciate this;

Some years ago, there was a gorilla at the Atlanta zoo called Willie B.  He masturbated several times a day, which caused much consternation among the patrons and zookeepers alike.

So, it was decided that Willie would be provided with toys, to hopefully distract the poor soul from his need to breed.  One of the toys was a skateboard...

Have you ever seen a 400 lb. gorilla masturbating while on a skateboard?

Take my word for it, it was fkn hilarious!  Sometimes, he'd get a sort of rhythm going and remain upright, but other times he'd get completely 'lost in the moment' and fall on his face/ass.

Good times, I tell ya'!  Good times!

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 05:15 | 5362512 plane jain
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The Monkeys Are Coming

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD41U6Ph-iw

 

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 07:12 | 5362596 Squid-puppets a...
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maybe the solution to our economic woes is to have 100 monkeys typing on keyboards that only have the key CTRL P

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 07:56 | 5362677 resaci
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guess what only happened 3 times in the last 100 years?

I smell that s$*t...

 

http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/21/news/economy/wealth-income-growth-ratio/

 

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 07:08 | 5362593 de3de8
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And likely a lot of other "first" and "Ever" to come

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:52 | 5361677 DeadFred
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It's easy to call the top. I do it all the time.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:12 | 5361537 acetinker
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The rocket (aka the market, on stimulus and via QE)  has not yet reached escape velocity, despite being launched 6 years ago, and somehow (it's a miracle) being re-supplied with fuel each and every day.

Now, we're gonna officially end the re-fueling missions, because internally we've realized there's no gain to be had from this mission, but we've instructed our mouthpieces to tell you that all is well and that aside from ebola, you have nothing to worry about.

Just be patient Vampy, we're sure we'll achieve sustainable orbit any day now....

Do I need an /s?

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:36 | 5361623 Amerikan Patriot
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That's everybody's plan.  Will everybody be able to get out at once?

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 21:13 | 5361730 lameusername
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Not sure if sarcastic, but here it is anyway...

No, that's why the crash is so steep, so fast. The greediest try to squeeze every penny of gains possible, but should have got out days or weeks earlier & by the time the uniformed investor hears the news & calls their broker it's probably too late & no one is buying or market is broken/frozen. Meanwhile everyone with illiquid investments like pensions eat the biggest loss as they have no say in what happens to their retirement investments & just have to wait until they increase in value again or take a huge hit in monthly income.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:17 | 5360925 Divided States ...
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Welcome to Krusty's Playhouse.....I will wait for another post like this saying the VIX hasnt done this before...for FOUR straight days in a row.

Looks like the SELL the Vol trade has resumed and is stronger than ever.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:32 | 5360978 Its Only Rock N Roll
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And if there is a reversal with forced short covering, the reflexivity in that would collapse the markets all together on their own...ala portfolio insurance in 1987

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:34 | 5361408 angel_of_joy
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How's that bread coming ? The Circus seems to go full tilt now...

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 21:19 | 5361747 lameusername
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With celebrity chefs & food shows on cable 24-7 to go with food stamps, six-packs & football, so take two of the fall of the Roman Empire is all set to roll.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:19 | 5360930 Bubenthauser
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Exactly, all the weird spikes and volumes in VIX-denominated instruments were there yesterday too. Typical Opex stuff, especially when we consider what happened in the last weeks.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 08:34 | 5362750 dontgoforit
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Why should the VIX be legitimate?  Nothing else is.  This 'market' is a true bastard.  Could have been contrived by Nostradomus.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:56 | 5361059 junction
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You foolish Earthlings.  Don't you comprehend that we have taked over your stock markets and are draining your world of its wealth.  Our point man, Obama, a real alien, will finish his assignment by 2016, leaving your planet a hollowed out burnt husk. 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:08 | 5361098 SheepDog-One
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That's not taked over, that's supposed to be tookeded over.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:11 | 5361340 MeMongo
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yeah what he said , you Maroon!

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:25 | 5361382 jimmytorpedo
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Tookeded wold be past infinitive wouldn't it? Along with tookened.

I think he was speaking in the present infinitive.

But what the hell did I knowneded,...

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:51 | 5361460 oudinot
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It's , "tooketh"

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:54 | 5361683 jimmytorpedo
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No need to get all biblical and shit.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 23:10 | 5362066 Lore
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Somebody's cruising for a smooting.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 23:20 | 5362105 forexskin
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that's had smittened to the smotan one.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 03:03 | 5362429 Victory_Garden
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So if the tokin tooker tookeded the taker for a long ride on a short pier, does that mean he was tooketh to be taked down??

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:03 | 5361485 Almost Solvent
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Q: Can I axe you a question about that?

 

A: I don't know? Can you?

 

Q: May I axe you a question about that?

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:09 | 5361109 BrosephStiglitz
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You know.. I would just about shit myself giggling if this  guy^ was actually Blankfein, trolling ZH'rs from his corporate jet.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:00 | 5361306 yogibear
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"Don't you comprehend that we have taked over your stock markets and are draining your world of its wealth. " 

- The Central Banksters.

 

Nothing alien or out of this world about this. It's just your run of the mill criminal central banker.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:59 | 5361309 tarsubil
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There used to be a guy on here who actually seriously peddled the world leaders were reptilian aliens with websites and stuff. I miss that guy among others.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:27 | 5361388 jimmytorpedo
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Are you trying to imply that the Queen ISN'T a baby eating reptile?

C'mon man! Look at her picture!

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:40 | 5361424 MeMongo
Wed, 10/22/2014 - 05:26 | 5362519 StormShadow
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Forgive him. When you huff chem trails all day you're prone to all sorts of fantasies.

Seriously though, it can be really hard in times like these to separate fact from fiction. Especially when, in light of new facts and eye opening, yesterday's fiction is indeed today's fact.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 05:42 | 5362532 StandardDeviant
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Must be David Icke, or one of his followers.  Seriously nutty stuff, but hilarious.  Makes the Scientologists look restrained.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:16 | 5361547 nuke ISIS now
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I think you mennt you have "baked" over the stock market mon

 

Signed Bob Marley

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 21:31 | 5361787 new game
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plus one for bob marley!

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 08:40 | 5362766 dontgoforit
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tree little burds, mon:  yellen, smellen and hellen

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 09:35 | 5362955 Grimaldus
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Suffer not the alien to live.

 

Grimaldus (Hero of Helsreach, Reclusiarch of the Black Templars Space Marine Chapter.)

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:59 | 5361308 JuliaS
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MarketWatch has a front page article about upbeat Yahoo earnings and photo of Marissa Mmeyer will give a person nightmares:

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/MWimages/MW-CW963_YHOO_m_MG_201410201...

Gaze into her smiling eyesockets and witness the true nature of this rally.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:59 | 5361315 tarsubil
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Holy shit that is creepy. Maybe they are reptilians.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:14 | 5361353 Keyser
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Looks like one of those animatronicx gadgets from Disney World... 

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 08:24 | 5362724 Bunghole
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Westworld 2.0

Yul Brynner has nothing on that bitch

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 08:42 | 5362769 dontgoforit
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my dick would look good in her mouth

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 22:31 | 5361984 DarkLordofSadNews
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SO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A  RANDOM PATTERN THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY .... sorry about the caps no time to retype !

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 01:53 | 5362367 CASTBOUND
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my neighbor's half-sister makes $71 hourly on the laptop . She has been fired from work for 9 months but last month her paycheck was $17975 just working on the laptop for a few hours. look at this site... www.job-reports.com

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 06:47 | 5362571 Jannn
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China Gold Association: 2013 Chinese Gold Demand Accounted For 2199 Tonnes 

https://www.bullionstar.com/blog/koos-jansen/china-gold-association-2013...

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:12 | 5360898 kaiserhoff
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Of all the things that should never be traded, the totally artificial VIX has to be near the top.

What's next, Ebola futures?

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:15 | 5360913 Karlus
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Courtesy of your friendly neighborhood PPT

 

Thiel sez printing until Hill 2016

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:45 | 5361017 ramacers
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hill by a wide (posterior) margin.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:55 | 5361682 willwork4food
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What's next? Ebola futures?

There already is. A dude was on CNBC today sporting the newly packaged stock that has drug companies, hazement wear industries, pharmaceutical & para etc. all in the name of leveraging your portfolio.

Sorry don't know the ticker symbol.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:19 | 5361154 Redneck Hippy
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Bullish on ebola futures.  RNA viruses mutate every time they replicate.  That's why they never could make a vaccine that works for HIV.  Ebola neither. 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 21:26 | 5361777 SameAsItEverWas
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RNA viruses mutate every time they replicate.  That's why they never could make a vaccine that works for HIV.  Ebola neither. 

What about the common cold and herpes simplex?

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 23:41 | 5362161 GoldenTool
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Ranks up there with tips.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 03:13 | 5362430 Victory_Garden
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"What's next, Ebola futures?"

Ebola on the Gold and Silver.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:14 | 5360907 Everybodys All ...
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The vix is the mainline for the "fix". Follow the money on this index and I'd guarantee you'll find out who runs this entire charade.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:15 | 5360909 TeamDepends
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Green us if you feel that we have begun a period in stocks where every day will bring changes of at least one percent, but mostly going down. If you disagree, hit the green.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:21 | 5360934 Au_Ag_CuPbCu
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So....green either way?

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:52 | 5361042 TeamDepends
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Dagnabbit! It's the volatility. Up and down, up and down. Ebola, ISIS, ebola, ISIS. Change you can golf to. You didn't build that. Corzine walks free. Nancy Pelosi. Get the vaccine it's the stuff of dreams of my father no he looks more like the Subud dude....

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:53 | 5361050 Frank N. Beans
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maybe he's color blind.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:16 | 5360914 Rainman
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'Who knows ?? ' This is why those 113 Fed dudes make over a quarter million fiatscos a year ( the reportable amount ).

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:17 | 5360916 Rehab Willie
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Is Soros about to break the FED

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:10 | 5361116 Deathrips
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Id be happy with Soros breaking his hip.

 

RIPS

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:17 | 5360919 Bell's 2 hearted
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VIXens ... are hawt

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:17 | 5360921 resaci
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VIX vaporub - I knew a girl who ate that s#*t... She never went down 3 days in a row either

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:18 | 5360928 Bell's 2 hearted
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you win

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:03 | 5361084 Al Huxley
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LOL to both.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:35 | 5361624 RockyRacoon
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She can't go down if you can't get up....  Just sayin'.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:17 | 5360922 ebworthen
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He who controls the indicators, controls perceived reality.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:19 | 5360931 unplugged
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the Matrix is real - reality is the Matrix

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:38 | 5361401 Henry Chinaski
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Nope.  Both the reality and the illusion (Matrix) are true.  Disregard either at your peril. (Ron Paul and Robotrader were right.)

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 05:05 | 5362506 Victory_Garden
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"the Matrix is real - reality is the Matrix"

Please to beg your honorable pardon, but the reality is you, the real spiritual being. The unreality is the matrix, Maya, the Grand Illusion. We the spiritual beings we are, are only just passing through learning the daily lessons of the Soul. Or, that which we all are. There is no difference, for all are only a spark of the Great Universal Light, each individually wrapped up in a glass(body) of water, thus making us all one. Quite the trick to place that burning fire into a bag of water and have it smile like You do at 98.8 degrees every day. There is no escape from this reality in the unreality. Proof? Hold two lit bic lighters together and then pull them apart. What is that? We are ALL One flame, each in individual colorful forms.

Moar?

Mmmkay.

The body is made up of the four basic elements of this earth. Air, fire, earth and water. Every human being has this as proof of their familyhood with each other. The family of man. Add to this that we in spirit are all one in the flame form, the spiritual form, it makes no sense to hurt each other if the Higher Light/knowledge is known, and that is the fact that if you hurt others, you are only hurting yourself. Killing others, is killing a part of you. There is no division in the world. Division is a dis-ease of man, not of Creation. Choose to be family with the worlds people, cuz you all are!

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:06 | 5361088 BrosephStiglitz
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Until the real economy forces people to swallow the "red pill".  Anyhow, I thought the VIX was volatility, not fear?

When did volatility = fear?  Bitcoin is volatile and half of those speculators think it's heading to the moon and beyond.  Not so much fear.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:25 | 5361591 BingoBoggins
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Black Capsule

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:19 | 5360929 Bear
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Ebola cured ... All fear is gone

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:30 | 5360970 Irishcyclist
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Ebola complacency could be part of it. "Spanish nurse is now cured" "Nigeria is Ebola-free". Has everyone in Nigeria been tested for Ebola?

Watch this space.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:23 | 5361173 Redneck Hippy
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Truly, it is hard to believe that Ebola has travelled on a plane to Dallas but has yet to make it to Ivory Coast or Ghana (where there are beaucoup Liberian refugees).  Lot of people trying to leave West Africa right now who can't afford plane tickets.  I'm guessing there is alll sorts of small Ebola outbreaks that governments are desperately trying to suppress before they are made public.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:51 | 5361286 Hohum
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I think someone posted that Ivory Coast has a travel ban in place.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:36 | 5361629 RockyRacoon
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Yeah.  Like our southern border is secure, too.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 00:15 | 5362243 Midas
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I didn't realized Ivory Coast was full of racists.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:21 | 5360939 walküre
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I don't care that it comes crashing down. It was low low low for a long enough time to dabble in it.

What matters is that the VIX got bought by every billionaire and his millionaire houseboy when markets fell apart for a couple weeks. VIX shot up.

It didn't fail to perform and if you're patient enough, you can make your entire annual portfolio gains in a week of market turmoil which will happen again.

Patience

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:32 | 5360974 Think Like A Crook
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I agree.  But what are you using as your "buy-in" point?

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:26 | 5361594 walküre
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weeks, maybe months of complacency... this year the VIX was fast asleep for a long time

$12 ish

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 23:34 | 5362144 Think Like A Crook
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Ok.  I watched it for a long time this year.  Was thinking about TVIX which is a time decay mofo but if you hit it right, geez....

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:42 | 5361011 i_call_you_my_base
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PPT talk is going mainstream. I doubt the fed likes that.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:28 | 5361201 Bay of Pigs
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They don't give a fuck about the media. The William Dudley at the NYFED manages, manipulates and controls everything going on in this FUBAR clown show. Unless they are completely shut down, this garbage will continue unabated.

 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:39 | 5361245 i_call_you_my_base
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I respect your position, but I think they do care. Otherwise the head of the fed wouldn't be an old hag that's impossible to listen to. Control is better effected when no one thinks you're controlling it.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:28 | 5361357 Bay of Pigs
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Fair point, but I don't know ten people who could name William Dudley or what he does. He is the man behind the curtain for all FED market operations. I doubt any of us know exactly what goes on everyday there, but one thing is certain, it is command central for the FED and PPT. And as Tyler pointed out in June, this has been the case far longer than most people realize (decades longer).

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-23/behold-new-york-feds-first-plun...

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:57 | 5361474 WhackoWarner
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In my OWN life I am a gentle soul.  I remove spiders from my home alive and escort them to my door. I adopt every furry creature who needs. I feed birds. I am good to my neighbours and respect the earth I live upon.

 

BUT I become like a drunken, angry out of control terrorist when I read what I read.  It is way beyond FUBAR.  Nothing clownish here.  It is pre-meditated rape of billions of souls.  And fools as puppets to implement.  There was a time when I thought maybe stupidity played in...but not behind the scenes.

That said, I think the master plan is not working out so well.

 

And I do not see the FED or EBC  picking me up gently and escorting me to the door with best wishes.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:11 | 5361343 RaceToTheBottom
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They have been doing this since Reagan.

Reagan was a noted Free Marketeer and therefore he wanted the markets controlled by the FED....  Huh?

 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:41 | 5361646 Bay of Pigs
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It is downright amazing what some people think about Reagan (in a positive light). His administration was chock full of criminals, liars and warmongers. Look at the people that surrounded him. Bush Sr., Meese, Weinberger, Haig, Schultz, Regan, Baker, Watt, etc...

Good grief. You can't say anything good about that bunch of rotten assholes.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 21:29 | 5361779 Real Estate Geek
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Well, you gotta admit that Al Haig was a take-charge kinda guy . . .

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:21 | 5360942 Kirk2NCC1701
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"Deficits don't matter" - Cheney

Tyler, "VIX spike don't matter until they become Airborne."  Ask the CDC. - Kirk

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 22:38 | 5361999 disabledvet
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True

Dat

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:24 | 5360948 nakki
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We live in Never Neverland. Bellwether stocks shit the bed and index's rally, truly unpossible.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:27 | 5360955 css1971
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Keviin, time to get the hammer out!

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:30 | 5360966 hangemhigh77
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completely normal. no manipulation here, move along.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:32 | 5360976 gatorengineer
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To quote our Dear Leader.... Fore........................ or Four as the case may be....

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:34 | 5360985 SickDollar
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Real Question: is 401k worth it to start one now ?

 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:41 | 5361001 Latitude25
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Real question:  Would you like to help bail in a TBTF bank with your retirement fund?

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:15 | 5361352 lotsoffun
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real answer - you already did.  because everybody lives minute to minute on atm's - and do the math on what they charge you for that, and then look the fee's they charge you for FCKING having an account with them.

if that is not an admission that they can't make money (meaning in a real capitalist country they should not be in business), then it is an admission that on top of the money they CAN make - they are taking more because you are sitting begging to get sheared.

that simple.  and since +50 percent of the sheared are getting dole, nobody will complain enough to vote them out. 

 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:41 | 5361007 lasvegaspersona
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I CASHED MINE OUT AND BOUGHT HOOKERS AND BLOW AND..UM ..SOMETHING ELSE..CAN'T REMEMBER...MOSTLY GONE NOW ..it was shiney..thats all I remember.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:30 | 5361213 i_call_you_my_base
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You could do that, or alternatively you could punch yourself in the nuts ten times.

But seriously, if you want to invest as a hedge against shit not collapsing, save your money and do it on your own. Moving your funds around or exiting a 401K in a crisis is impossible. That's why everyone in them is "long term" and waits things out, because you don't have time to react. There are too many conditions.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:34 | 5361222 FredFlintstone
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Master of sarcasm?

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:50 | 5361287 TheReplacement
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Fake Answer:  Go all in!  NOW already!

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:04 | 5361499 WhackoWarner
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NO  NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.  Bite the bullet on the tax.  And get away from the system.  ?When it comes down most US brokerages, banks  will not honour promises.  (see Corzine).  Better off with bills under a mattress.  But there are alternatives.

that is what I think anyway.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:35 | 5360988 Bryan
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Someone with power and influence and money wanted the VIX lower.  Simple as that.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:39 | 5361247 omniversling
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Lower, as in 'Hindenberg' lower?

Hindenburg Omen

Found on the same page as info on the 'designers' of the VIX. Could it possible be a Tribe 'plugin'? Another tool to manage perception of the few market participants that still have human blood in their veins?

"The idea of a volatility index, and financial instruments based on such an index, was first developed and described by Prof. Menachem Brenner and Prof. Dan Galai in 1986. Professors Brenner and Galai published their research in the academic article "New Financial Instruments for Hedging Changes in Volatility," which appeared in the July/August 1989 issue of Financial Analysts Journal.[1]

In a subsequent paper, Professors Brenner and Galai proposed a formula to compute the volatility index.[2]

Professors Brenner and Galai wrote "Our volatility index, to be named Sigma Index, would be updated frequently and used as the underlying asset for futures and options... A volatility index would play the same role as the market index play for options and futures on the index."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIX

Peace

 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:36 | 5360989 lasvegaspersona
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QE soon ends. It will be interesting to see how they keep the market up after POMO is gone.

They will of course but maybe now it will be done in secret. FFS the NY Post had a front page article about the PPT. Any more revelations about the inner workings of sausage making and the average Joe will be too sick to 'invest'.

Of course the average Joe doesn't invest....he is sure his profit plan manager is doing it for him....and he knows what is going on. Oh the grand surprises coming.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:45 | 5361021 i_call_you_my_base
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I was just thinking about that, do revelations about the PPT make you not want to invest, or want to invest it all?

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:20 | 5361162 surf0766
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Qe will never end

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:47 | 5361274 surf0766
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It will never end until the crash

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxtXMlPSQAY

 

 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:23 | 5361371 RaceToTheBottom
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QE will mutate more than Ebola.

 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:44 | 5361261 Simplifiedfrisbee
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I agree, QE will end soon. When it does, the velocity of Money will increase. The plan is already in sequence to lower mortgage standards and regardless of the several reasons behind the drop in oil, the economy is primed for what I will term, "the great boom." The greatest party in the history of modern industrialization and capitalism is upon us. .

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:07 | 5361517 WhackoWarner
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Anyone here got a link on how to fashion a tool out of a rock?  Chew sinew to make thread?

I have some beads I will trade for the secret.

 

Oh and flint?  What is that exactly?  Can I buy one at the 7 Eleven?

 

 

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 05:28 | 5362520 plane jain
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Not optimistic on the velocity of money or this great boom. If ths is sarc/trolling great job though.

I did see a Quicken Loans ad on TV bragging that they will make you a loan with no appraisal. So maybe the banks are starting to loosen up the taps.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:32 | 5361614 Think Like A Crook
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My thoughts are "they" can do what they wish. Last week, whatever day it was when DOW was down 460 (damn seems like 3 months ago now) in my opinion the FED was actively buying the market to prevent further bed shitting. This little rally here may be the setup for announcing that in fact QE is ending (they have to keep some credibility). As long as mkts dont go lower than the lows on that "washout" day (SPY 182ish) then mission accomplished UNTIL "We have to do sonething to spur the economy QE 4Eva" is unleashed...

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:37 | 5360991 nosoeawe
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Looks like Hussein Obola and the Geriatric White Haired Menstrual Chunk went full retard today

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:38 | 5360995 Latitude25
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Mr Yellen says control your animal spirits

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 19:23 | 5361377 RaceToTheBottom
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Put the Garden gnome back in the garden.

End the FED.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:39 | 5360998 we built this city
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These are diffucult disturbing frustrating times for the bears

and for me - I got out at levels of 1500 in the S^P and since then loosing money....

My porfolio is  55% short 12%long  10% bonds and and 23% cash

70% in the us dollar

my shorts :

 35% of my shorts are in the Dax- average price 9400 

20% short S^P index at average price 1850 

10% short russell 2000 average price 1130

15% biotechnolgy index average price 2650

12% shorts high beta stocks: Tsla- Gpro-Nflx-Twtr-Fb-Hlf-Amz 

losing so far only in Gpro and Fb 20%

3% short indian market - lost 5% 

   long Vix via VXX etf 5%

 last week i was feeling good - this week is difficult- remind me the times i was buying like crazy at 2008-2009 when nobody wanted to hear about stocks- it feels the same today- nobody is selling and shorting,,,

i think i am going to close the computer and monitor and return in 1 year...alot of pain seeing my shorts get squeezed

 

And finally- as a jew i am ashamed of  the  fed chairmans - Greenspan-Brenank-Yellen and Fisher

 

 

   

 

 

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 17:45 | 5361016 lasvegaspersona
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With hyper inflation on the menu I guarantee you anything short will make you sick. Ask Gideon Gono.

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 18:16 | 5361139 Deathrips
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Dont worry... theres dickheads of every color.

Im embarrased by my fellow man every day.

 

RIPS

Tue, 10/21/2014 - 20:24 | 5361584 WhackoWarner
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Care to become my patron? 

 

You be the money genius and I will paint the demise.

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