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WTI Crude Slides Below $81

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It appears some of the 'fundamental' legs of the face-ripping ramp in stocks are fading. Broken Markets - nope; Fed Speakers - nope (blackout period); Crude rising - nope (WTI back under $81)

 

 

Why it matters...

 

But wait - there is a "broken" market - June 2015 Long Bond Futures... fat-fingered, short squeeze, or hedge at any costs?

 

Paging Jon Hilsenrath...

 

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Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:28 | 5364398 Tsar Pointless
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From Yahoo! finance:

Wall St. turns lower after shooting at Canadian parliament

Nah. I blame the gays and abortionists.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:35 | 5364435 Bunghole
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Jeezus, let it go.

Your vagina's still knotted up after debating HH.

 

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:43 | 5364463 summerof71
Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:43 | 5364464 Xibalba
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oil is the new silver?

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:49 | 5364498 summerof71
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EPSON printer toners are the new gold.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:58 | 5364547 SWRichmond
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gasoline here is $2.67 a gallon.  Praise be unto Obama!

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 20:12 | 5365676 MalteseFalcon
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Gas was $1.80 when the Mocha Messiah first appeared.  And demand for gas has fallen off a cliff since 2005. 

Somebody has been skimming big time.  Wonder who?

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 15:40 | 5364683 ctiger
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I've been catching that falling silver knife for awhile thank god in only small quantities....

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 17:52 | 5365146 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Problem is you think falling prices are bad because you see you existing stash as future fiat. Falling gold and silver prices greatly increases the efficiency of the conversion of useless fiat to intrinsically valuable PM's.

I don't know what it takes to get through to people that a rising price of gold and silver is actually bad because it makes it less efficient to convert the joules of your labour into a physical non dilutive asset. Many gold bugs salivate at the concept of "to da moon" so they can convert back to fiat at exactly the time PM's are screaming in your face that fiat is dying.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:54 | 5364529 pods
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So is it good if the oil producers in the US's (negative) margins are increasing?

I mean, anyone in the oil field know if they can make it up on volume?

OT:  That charmingDate.com Russian girl in the black dress is staring at me again.  

pods

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 15:27 | 5364650 Ms No
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Funny Pods.  Actually that's exactly what is going around and it's always impressive how many ways they can come up with to say that exact thing, along with numerous other interesting theories:  The current rigs are significantly better than rigs used earlier in the boom, completion techniques are improving incredibly, costs of completions are no longer significant with multipad drilling, transportation costs and service rates are negotiable, (my personal favorite) new flaring rules are in effect, any slowdown will simply drawout the development phase, and of course the flying monkey rainbow field hasn't even been tapped yet.

In addition, CNN was just reporting on tight oil in their Filthy Rich segment so that's definitely a good sign for longevity.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 20:41 | 5365773 DeadFred
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What browsing history do you have to get her popping up? I priced invertors to convert gird tied solar systems to off-grid capable and all I get now is Solar City ads now.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:45 | 5364488 Tsar Pointless
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Hey, I'm just trying to play the game the right way. All evil can be laid at the feet of the gays and abortionists. I've learned that well enough.

So, fuck everything else.

Nice ass, BTW.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:48 | 5364497 Bunghole
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Aw shucks.  Now i'm blushing.

 

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:37 | 5364441 kaiserhoff
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I paid $2.85/ gallon yesterday.  I'm sure it's around 2.70 near the Roanoke hub.

The price broke right after the Tylers published a longish piece on why we would never again see gasoline below $3.00

Dear Tylers:  Would you please publish something on why gas can't go below $1.25?

   Thanks in advance;)

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 15:35 | 5364658 MidwestJester
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....and how about how gold will never be above $1200/oz again too? :D

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 15:50 | 5364710 ctiger
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never thought I woud see gas at 2.65 again,  (Easley, SC) but will enjoy it while it lasts..... will use the exxtra money to buy more stocks (yeah, right)

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:49 | 5364493 Bunga Bunga
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It's not the weather?

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 17:17 | 5365001 Ruffmuff
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Let that rockafucker shit slide to where it needs to go. 

But maybe only a christmas present, for christmas future may not be so favorable.

But the Ruff says, enjoy what ya got, even Johnny cash's empire of dirt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:28 | 5364400 LawsofPhysics
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...and I for one will certainly not complain about lower diesel prices.  Enjoy this while it lasts.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:38 | 5364440 Bunghole
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Too bad premium is not seeing the drop in prices.

Premium used to run $0.20 to $0.30 above regular.  Lately, it runs $0.50 to $0.60 above regular.

Fucking cunts.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:44 | 5364478 Decolat
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Both my scooter and WRX demand premium. This drop doesn't mean shit to me. 

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:46 | 5364484 JAFAH
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What is the octane rating on "premium" in the states?

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:57 | 5364526 Bunghole
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I can run my na 4.2 on 91 but my chipped 1.8 turbo needs 93.

Most stations in Ohio sell premium with an octane of 92 or 93. R+M/2 method

Sunoco still plays their marketing game selling 86 for the same price as everybody else's 87 and their 91 is the same as everybody else's 93.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 15:52 | 5364714 ctiger
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only the 1% buy premuim, dealers must figure they don't care about the price....

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 16:03 | 5364743 NotApplicable
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I buy it because it's the only way I can avoid worthless fucking ethanol. I mean, who doesn't like fuel that evaporates, leaving water in your engine?

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:38 | 5364444 BKbroiler
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agreed. Despite the Fed's best attempt to keep prices rising on everything, a little deflation is welcome.  

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 15:01 | 5364555 LawsofPhysics
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yep, only a significant drop in the number of people on earth would keep the deflation coming.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:29 | 5364402 Bill of Rights
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The bottom is close, they will run it here till elections and then BOOOM up we go

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 15:25 | 5364641 SheepDog-One
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Heard all the same 'it's all just for the elections' shit all thru 2010 too, turns out its all just the same shit no matter what.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 17:21 | 5365010 Ruffmuff
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Yep, no need for elections for moar shit.

Does GDP have any value equated with bullshit.

If so, we are all rich bitchezz.

I told everyone no moar doom. I've turned over a new leaf. The other side is completed coated with shit.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:34 | 5364432 FieldingMellish
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Look at the miners crumble. Costs down, revenue up but no... sell, sell, sell...

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:38 | 5364438 Winston Churchill
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Canadian porridge is too hot hot for the Goldilocks 'market'.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:44 | 5364469 kaiserhoff
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Hard to fathom, Winston.

If there were snipers in DC I'd be bying with both hands and both feet.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 15:48 | 5364708 SheepDog-One
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If clowngress had just been shot up, I'd be buying up stawks left and right.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:38 | 5364439 franzpick
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Gee, maybe gas will slide below $4.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:39 | 5364442 slaughterer
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Looks like another bear trap on commodities and ES.  

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:41 | 5364455 Bell's 2 hearted
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EIA inventories for week out today

 

crude +7.1 million barrels ... on top of last week's +8.9 million barrels

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:41 | 5364457 The Phallic Crusader
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So who thinks low prices will help the US achieve 'energy independence' and who thinks it's going to give the very idea of energy independence a big long fat one right in the colon?

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 17:04 | 5364954 SmallerGovNow2
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long fat one.  forget the shale play and tar sands with oil < $80/barrel...

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:42 | 5364461 p00k1e
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Go, go, go Alligator Jaws!

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 18:03 | 5365184 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Initially read that as Aliigator Jews.

After perusing ZH for a few years I have Jews on the brain. Wonder if that means I'm semi-chosen.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:45 | 5364479 buzzsaw99
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Why is Private Pyle out of his bunk after lights-out? Why is Private Pyle holding that weapon? Why aren't you stomping Private Pyle's guts out?

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 17:01 | 5364945 SmallerGovNow2
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FMJ...  classic...

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:44 | 5364480 buzzsaw99
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Why is Private Pyle out of his bunk after lights-out? Why is Private Pyle holding that weapon? Why aren't you stomping Private Pyle's guts out?

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:44 | 5364482 Bell's 2 hearted
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gas prices dropping despite a 0.2% drop in year over year wholesale stocks

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 17:01 | 5364942 SmallerGovNow2
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The drop in stocks is NOT the problem.  It's the drop in demand...

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=A103600001&f=M

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 14:48 | 5364494 fatlibertarian
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I'd heard that if oil goes below 80, then boom 

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 15:17 | 5364610 Handful of Dust
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That's what some fracking CEO from texas said on the radio this morning. He said the small oil companies would start 'losing money' if oil fell below $80. He said if the p[rice stayed that low could be bad for oil cities, like Houston.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 18:08 | 5365207 BringOnTheAsteroid
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So Houston really will have a problem. The shale oil companies might need to rework their business model and just get into evangelical churches,. They can work on extracting even more God-fearing people from the population.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 15:00 | 5364551 blown income
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Gas prices are a fucking joke ..local news last night here in Lafayette La running head how this will boost spending that people will save a few hundred a year in cost.. are you fucking kidding me ...so now I save , what $1.85 a fill ..wow Now I can splurge on the 6 oz candy bar

 

As if gas prices will ever go down to where they really belong..

 

 

Ever find that Jet that disappeared ??

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 15:22 | 5364624 crazybob369
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This is getting really interesting. The Saudi's are going to have a major problem on their hands with <$90 oil. The only way they stay in power is by maintaining the welfare state they've created to appease the much larger Muslim sect which does not like them very much. They need oil at $85 or above to maintain the current status quo. Without it, there will be so many Saudi royal heads rolling around, the kids will be playing soccer in the streets with them.


Interesting times indeed! 

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 16:01 | 5364738 ctiger
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think this is big game of chicken being played between the Saudies and the Russians with  US encouragement (US drillers just considered "collateral damage")

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 16:23 | 5364815 crazybob369
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I agree, that's certainly what it looks like, but to what end? The Saudis risk a nasty revolt, the U.S. kisses the non-existent recovery goodbye (since the energy sector seemed to be the only thing propping it up), and the Russian economy goes to total shit. So who wins? The Chinese? Kindda seems that way, just like they're the winners with the lower PM prices.

 

Note to self: Start studying Mandarin. 

 

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 18:15 | 5365237 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Don't think you have to worry about the Chinese. They have their hands full with 1 billion people, environmental degradation and corruption. They will be lucky to survive in their current form of society. They were building one of the worlds largest nuclear reactors last I heard. If the japs can't run these safely how do you think the chinks will go. They've been known to have entire apartment buildings keel over like a stiff legged dog.

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 15:55 | 5364713 clade7
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Gas here this am was 3.01..(Michigan)  It jumped to 3.20 right at 10:15am and is holding there...of course, that was before the canadian shootout, so maybe it will go back down 20c tomorrow?

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 16:08 | 5364756 jacship
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going lower

why ?

because

USD= PetroDollar

or

 

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 17:03 | 5364955 Paracelsus
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Election in near future?

Wed, 10/22/2014 - 18:12 | 5365222 I Write Code
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Brent not as weak, some of WTI down is caused by strong dollar.

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