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The Canadian Patriot Act Arrives: Ottawa To Give Security Agencies More "Detention And Surveillance" Powers
Stop us when the flashbacks to September 11, and its Patriot Act aftermath, become too close for comfort.
s Reuters reported moments ago, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said on Thursday the government will expedite plans to give more powers of detention and surveillance to security agencies in the wake of an attack on Parliament.
"They need to be much strengthened, and I assure you, Mr. Speaker, that work which is already under way will be expedited," he told the House of Commons, one day after a gunman launched an attack on Parliament and was shot dead.
On the other hand, instead of giving the government even more authoritarian power to do with civilian liberties as it sees fit and appropriate, perhaps the government's agencies could have simply done their work better under the existing laws and regulations, especially after the Sky News report that the Ottawa shooter, Canadian born Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, was already on a terror watch list.
The gunman who killed a soldier in Ottawa and stormed Canada's parliament had been put on a terror watch list, it has emerged.
The attacker, identified as Michael Zehaf-Bibeau by Canadian media, was considered "high risk" and had seen his passport confiscated to stop him travelling abroad to join Islamic State terrorists in Iraq or Syria.
But the 32-year-old was able to strike at the heart of his home country's capital, shooting dead Corporal Nathan Cirillo before he was himself gunned down by Sergeant-At-Arms Kevin Vickers as he launched his assault on parliament.
US sources said the killer was a convert to Islam from Quebec who grew up in Laval and Montreal and was called Michael Joseph Hall before he changed his name.
But while most have stretched to make a link between Zehaf-Bibeau and Muslim in general (or ISIS in particular), a very distubring direction where this may be headed is revealed in the following:
Family friend Dave Bathurst told the CBC Zehaf-Bibeau did not appear to have extremist views, but had at times shown a disturbing side.
He said: "We were having a conversation in a kitchen, and I don't know how he worded it - he said the devil is after him."
Mr Bathurst said his friend frequently talked about the presence of Shaytan in the world - an Arabic term for devils and demons, adding: "I think he must have been mentally ill."
So while one can understand the stereotyping of fear under the guise of race, ethnicity or religion, what happens when the brand spanking new pre-crime unit of "Oceania" targets not just those who are externally different but pose a risk threat because they could be, according to the government, "mentally ill." Good luck proving to a jury of peers after the fact of one's arrest (by the Ministry of Peace of course) that one is, in fact, perfectly normal.
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Time to "unelect" Harper will be next year...
Jeez this whole stream of events reads like a gritty, distopian, anti-fascist 80's graphic novel.
So I was reading the comments in my local rag about this (I call it the Idiot Barometer) and to a T they were all calling this terrorism.
How is this terrorism? They attacked a government target and killed someone in the military. Don't we call that War? I mean, Canada said they would join the Bomb Brown People Campaign, so that kind of delcared War on the Sand Monkeys, didn't it?
Need the proper buzzwords I guess in order to get this thing though.
Like picking out a lube I guess.
pods
It's only terrorism when non-white people perpetrate acts of violence.
Very convenient...
And you know they cancelled a hockey game, to make sure Canadians took it seriously!
Listen.
Here's how it goes. It escalates, then POW!
ISIL, eBola, PAtriot Act.
It's only Canada anyway, they are not exceptional.
The shooter drove around downtown Ottawa in a car with no license plates.
No police stopped him for driving without plates.
THe shooter walked up to the front entrance of the Parliament buildings carrying a rifle.
No police stopped him to ask him about the firearm.
So Canada now introduces a Patriot Act when the existing police have proved themselves incapable of dealing with the most basic transgressions of the law.
"You know what we need? More laws."
I was just having this convo the other day! Not.
...need more good men like Kevin Vickers...seriously.
Bye, bye Canadian pie...........puke..
why, its almost like some global net of population control is being laid over the countries of the West...
He hijacked the car about a block from the Parliament buildings. There was a lot of time for the police to be looking at the plates - not.
From all accounts, he ran from the car to the building. as noted earlier, unlike the US, most Canadian public buildings do not have squads of cops sitting around the front door. And, while I haven't read or seen anything either way, it's possible he had the gun semi-concealed beneath his coat. I haven't heard that he was brandishing it over his head and shouting "Allahu akhbar".
The "Bill of Rights" just got dis-repatriated. P.E.T. must be rolling in his resting place.
@pods: Control the language, control the mind. If "tewwowism" is the only thing the pleb is able to express, then "by State" (what, you expected God?), it must be, because there are no other expressible options.
The kooky guy in bathrobe and slippers trying to shoot Marois wasn't labelled a terrorist.
These two clowns (the car terrorist in St Jean de Richelieu and now doofus in Ottawa) in two days are "terrorists".
I wonder if they both had the same handler to radicalize them, get their passports taken away to frustrate them, wind them up and point them in the right direction?
Quebec and McGill university are notorious for their Sirhan Sirhan type experiments.
Homegrown patsies can be much more useful here at home than they would be standing in the desert waiting for the next air drop of US weapons.
The supposed second shooter which they locked down 15 blocks to look for, do you suppose he turned his jacket inside out so the RCMP logo was visible and then just blended in with the other keystone cops hiding behind their cars?
BTW the RCMP just got their hand slapped for arbitrarily banning the CZ858, among others, because they look scary. Most of the news reports claim the doofus was armed with a rifle (scary) but a few early ones mentioned a shotgun which was quickly dropped.
CBC was peppering its' reports with 'assault rifle' and 'semi-automatic rifle' all day in between asking listeners to call in to talk about their feelings. This was while they were whispering on air so the shooter couldn't find them!
My issue was that this guy targeted the government, hell, the military. That is not terrorism. That is an act of War.
Blowing up a car bomb in a market to spook the sheep is terrorism. Fighting the government with bullets is called war.
pods
pods,
I don't know if either "terrorism" or "war" accurately describes it. What this is is an example of a Mohammadan doing what Mohammadans have done for 14 centuries: killing the infidels to make it into their twisted satanic parody of heaven.
We need to deport these people from our borders and wish them well. And yes, I mean ALL Muslims.
Well just be happy they are implementing the state structure to do just that.
And don't bitch when it's your turn to get stuffed into the boxcar.
pods
Come on pods, you're smarter than this.
The "state structure" necessary to deport members of a distinct, easily identifiable people would be far smaller in size and less invasive into citizens's private lives than the Patriot Act violations of civil liberties.
And what's with the Nazi Germany imagery? Nobody's advocating that. Well, Muslims do.
Deportaton is not going to fly when you are dealing with homegrown converts to what they call islam; and I really think that is likely just the flavour du jour anyway,
The bitter reality is, its a bitter reality for most of the younger crowd particularly those predisposed to being societal outcasts hell most western societies are in some stage of collapse thus this kind of activity is going to increase going forward I think the flag they salute is somewhat variable, assigning relationships to ISIS/CIA or some other group is irrelevant without a proper situational assessment and you just aint gonna get that from our western governments.
In the coming years it will be truly surprising where the threats come from and you won't need to look for it it will be coming up your walk .........
I like your thoughts on this
Sometimes it takes bullets to remove government and then it's called a revolution
But ISIS isn't a domestic gang of protesters trying to oust the goverment
They're (supposedly) foreign made combatants who in Canada's case have only ever gone after government or authorities representing government. That makes them warriors and they're on a war path.
Until citizens are targeted, the term "terrorist" and the label "terrorism" are not adequate imo
Another thing.. if Canadian authorities were really concerned about this they would have shut down maddrasses and mosques across the country because let's face it, the indoctrination starts there.
They know this is a bogus threat and CIA and probably CSIS fingerprints all over this.
Just like the US Patriot Act, the Canadian Patriot Act will not do a darn thing to either prevent or investigate terrorism. It will turn Canada into the same prison state that the US has become.
Canada is no longer a free country. Maybe it never was. Less police state in Continental Europe fyi.
Yep, exactly what happened during the Norway attacks in 2011. Before the killer was ID'ed everyone was calling it terrorism because it was assumed a brown guy did it. But then when the guy who did it was revealed as Breivik the media IMMEDIATELY changed it from "terrorism" to "mass murder".
All they need is "Gun Free Zone" signs, and all will be well, eh.
The gunman said "soooorry..." before he died... lol, that hoser...
.........did he sprinkle crack on himself just before he passed??
It's amazing to watch the brazenness and hubris of TPTB. Well, as long as we allow them to keep stealing our liberties, they'll continue to do it.
Again, remember what Solzhenitsyn said in his Gulag Archipelago, folks...
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
The difference between the poor Russians 90 years ago and us is that we DO have an awareness of the real situation and we're letting it happen.
It's all headed our way, sheeple.
Baaaaaaaaa.
The NKVD is amassing a nice cache of equipment as of late. Gulag Archipelago seems to be repeating itself...
NKVD? New Kardashian Venereal Disease?
These guys. But they're only here to serve and protect. It's difficult to bust jaywalkers without an MRAP, dontcha know.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NKVD
By way of deception make war.
I call it a murder....
..similar to this?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/peter-de-groot-s-sister-says-he-was-executed-1.2806040
Threaten a psychopath's percieved sense of control, and they will always lash out with mass punishment.
'Contempt of cop' earns you a swift, hollow-point retribution and is immensely satisfying to the cop.
'Contempt of government' is trickier and the punishment not nearly as instantly gratifying to the politicians. Powers of surveliance and detention seem to be all the rage today.
"How is this terrorism?"
This act only gets its meaning from how we react to it.
Wish we could roll back decades and take a page from the British and their stiff upper lip response to WWII bombardment. The proper response happened yesterday, the fucktard was shot and killed. Today we should carry on like usual. The one loon was properly handled and is dead. Case closed. Carry fucking on. Nobody needs more powers!
At least they opened parliament today but too bad they did it to crap on our charter.
It all started going downhill for the this gunman after he got a GSK brand flu shot.
Clearly the *timing* of the shootings in Ottawa were just a *coincidence* with the arrival of the Act.
Consider how low the bar is in "freedom-loving" Canada, that in contrast to 9/11, it only takes ONE death of a Policeman, to usher in a Police State.
Lucky for Canada, it has no shortage of Archipelagos and islands as locations of Gulags. Ellesmere Island, anyone?
Tyler, may I suggest that you create a color-coded map of Canada's Archipelagos, since this NATO partner functions best that way.
Did The UN Just Pass The Global Patriot Act? | Think Tank http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUmuUIHz_Uc#t=21
Gosh, that was fast!
Maybe they had it written already because they knew the terrorists they trained were coming...
Ya think? Now where have we seen this before?
Canada has always been about 10 years behind the US. Makes perfect sense.
pods
Come on Mexico, get a move on! Let's get this North American Police State Rolling. Yeeeeehawwwwww(over the cliff)!!!!!!
I'm ready for Oligarchy...?
..... TOO FUNNY..... Mexican police state now that would be worth the price of admission..... no seriously there is a country that has been untamed for a long long time since well before Poncho Villa .... much as we might not like the open border situation it may be worth a look to see how they deal with corrupt government and associated agencies.....
And they got a cut nd paste copy from the 'mad monk' Tony Abbott in Australia, passed a week ago:
Asio welcomes proposal for 'coercive questioning' powers in security ...
23 September 2014—Counter-Terrorism Legislation Amendment ...
Exactly what I wrote as a comment in The Daily Mail. Needless to say it didn't get published.
Canada has had strong privacy laws relative to US... have to believe they will now weaken those.
Hard to believe any truth in a sea of lies, my friend.
Believing is for cattle. Know or know that you don't know and act accordingly. Find out.
Listen.
Can we talk about North Korea?
NYT: "Kim Jong-un Gave Order to Free American, North Korea Says".
Mossad/CIA poisoned KJ, notice that he disappeared over the last month and came up sick.
What's the antidote? Surrender your will and worship Rothschildern.
Listen BET. You should check out the blog of one gentelman by the name of Ajit Vadakayil. Superb stuff...
Listen, both. EOM
Don't pass wooden nickels.
OK, stop now.
That sure Didnt take long.
Last week CSIS was crying they need broader powers against the people, just like the NSA.
This week it's being rammed thru thanks to yesterday.
It's like watching WWF, like its all scripted before hand or something.
Broader powers? These fatass spooks already cut in line at Timmies.
"...It's like watching WWF, like its all scripted before hand or something..."
That's the most eloquent description of what's happening that I have ever read - anywhere.
discussed here previously by Radical Marijuana but i can't find a link.
A sane foreign policy for both the USA and Canada would be to treat an admission to Islam as we treated an admission to communist sympathies in the 1950s, and start deporting them.
#1 all religion is terrorism, ALL of it
#2 this incident has nothing to do with islam/religion
#3 the only religion to start every holy war possible against other religions is Christianity, so ban all christians
#1 Demonstrably false, and ridiculous to boot.
#2 The attacker converted to Islam, then suffered from Sudden Jihad Syndrome. This is consistent with 1400 years of Mohammadanism.
#3 False. And you would have to be functionally illiterate to believe this.
1800 years of Christianity consistent with starting holy wars. Demonstrably true.
OK. Name one.
And please don't mention the Crusades, which was a belated military RESPONSE to 300 years of Muslim savagery against pilgrims in the Holy Land.
Name one example - just one - where a war of aggression was started in the name of spreading Chrisianity, and killing those who refused to convert.
Crusades.
There is no "Holy land" just THEIR LAND & christians invaded.
100% valid at all times, supreme massacre holy war started by christian devils.
Next: take-over and wiping out of North America's indigenous people for not being white christians, kidnapping them also to indoctrinate them in christians schools to ensure cultural erasure.
That's an entire CONTINENT and you expect to be held blameless?
Next up: removal of the non-christian aboriginals, also called savages, of Australia.
We're at 3 so far, all of which you shall deny. Facts, facts, FACTS
You'd have to be a brainwashed historically illiterate liberal to believe this nonsense.
Lies, lies LIES.
O' Canada, you're being preped for integration into the NAU.
You've been warned.
That warning is 20 years old ; most are aware or too deaf to hear the warning at any time.
I am not understanding revoke the passport so he doesnt leave..... Why not revoke the passport AFTER he leaves?
Next legislation anti hate speech...... cant offend a muslim afterall.
Time to order up a few more episodes of little Mosque on the Prairie.
10000 pages document was found at right time
And now we know why countries let immigrants from anywhere stream across the borders.
Create a crisis so you can impose control and obviate the rule-of-law and liberty.
Works for financial repression and to further the police state of the Kleptoligarchy.
Yep. Churchill had a body guard of five...these clowns have a Bodyguard of Lies.
Nothing about threats from abroad? Bwhahahahaha. The trillion you just spent on the whatever and the who the phuck knows is in my view about to be attacked.
Can't have ISIS....let alone Libya...shipping dirt cheap oil.
And it didn't take 2 sky scrapers to crumble prior to initiating it. Bravo.
Hey! It had to happen elsewhere, elsewhen, in recent goldfish memory, for even the smallest little thing to cause an effect of equivalent magnitude today.
The words "Never Forget" aren't etched into the minds of millions for nothing.
3 skyscrapers but who's counting...
Pull it!!!
A nutcase, with a gun who is already on their radar screen.
Once again, someone fucked up.
it is never enough to just do their job competently.
It is always we need more police and surveillance powers.
Eh?
Yes, it seems everyone follows the let no crisis go to waste mantra.
We already know the UK is ahead of the US in being a police state. Canada was behind, Australia passed its version of the patriot act in 2005, but it didn't enable the mass surveilance that ours did -- so they went nuts trying to pass the "national security amendment" last montn and got their wish on Oct 1 -- a single warrant can now authorize them to search the entire internet.
New Zealand denied they were doing any mass survielance at the same time they were deploying the system.
These countries all all part of the five eyes, and this shit looks awfully coordinated to me, with Canada, Australia, and NZ all launching mass surveilance legislation within a year of each other, and coincidentally starting right around the Snowden leak timeframe..
Extra powers for the secret police!
Imagine if this happened in East Germany, the Gestapo. Soviet Union, KGB!
Canada, CSIS...
your absolutely correct ...how many lone crazed gunmen do we have to see before we realize they are not alone, Soon we'll find out this guy was a RCMP stooge or some such.
Haven't the Canadians learned anything from watching us for the last 13 years? What they're about to learn is that the people have no say in government and democracy is an illusion. Vote all you want; the bureaucracies do whatever they want and don't care who is in office.
Maybe. But it's BETTER than commiunism.
They were just waiting for the match. Just like the Patriot Act was produced days after the event....
has anyone come out with the "false flag" angle yet?
You try. Shouldn't be hard. I would go the MK Ultra route personally.
A good start for those who doubt that most "terrorists" are secret-service made, here's the horse, here's the mouth, hear the voice : ex-Mossad case-officer Victor Ostrovsky's *By Way of Deception* http://vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres11/OSTROVbywayofdecep.pdf
Hopefully they have already thought of a zio dual-citizen like Chertoff to put in charge immediately, "Terrorism Czar"
we do Ministers instead of Czars in Canada. Oddly Czars are a Russian concept yet Obola...
DXY higher than when FOMC minutes came a few weeks ago warning on dollar strength
King Dollar
He was on a watch list, but apparently nobody was watching him.
Candidate selection list. Apparently the same one your selected officials come from.
interesting how TARP and Patriot Act legislation came out almost immediately ... Frank- Dodd took till summer of 2010 to get passed ...
How convenient for the NAU predators to have a random act of violence happen just the day before they start this long planned op. Human sacrifice or pure street theater?
PATRIOT Act -(all caps) written Before 9-11
Nothing patriotic about it.
You're not to know or remember that, comrade. They hate us for our freedoms, so we have to make sure we no longer have those freedoms.
Headline from the edmonton sun newspaper, "Canadian Democracy Attacked". How is 'democracy' attacked? Maybe an unfortunate soldier and his poor family, or a band of lying, murdering, thieving politicians, but not democracy. Democracy doesn't exist here in Canada. Just like in the usa. If the empire were prepared to accept democracy, it would have arranged, by now, for every citizen to vote on every issue, online. Democracy is the most despised enemy of the empire and will therefore, never be permitted.
Nah, democracy is a useful tool. That's the reason it came about. It's a method of control and domesticating the herd.
Can you really imagine voting on every single issue that came up? It'd turn us all into state bureaucrats.
What they fear most of all is anarchy and a return to living in small communities.
Look at the bright side. They only had to sacrifice 3 sheep instead of 3000.
That was quick.
It's almost as though they had the legislation ready-prepared.
What a stroke of luck.
Those Canadians can type fast!
Nobody saw that one comming :)
what a joke :)
What good will a patriot act do, when considering the following questions
1. The terrorist shoots one of two honor guards standing there with guns (unloaded I believe), so what did the other honor guard do? Did he run? Did he try to hit the terrorist with the butt of his gun? Did he run after the guy as the terrorist ran for a vehicle? In all probability, this guard that was killed was the other guard's friend, right? Wouldn't you do whatever you could to get that guy?
2. Why have soldiers standing guard with unloaded guns?
3. How did a man armed with a shotgun breach a parliament building's entrance, which should be highly guarded with multiple armed guards?
4. How is it that he was able to outrun all these armed guards, only to be killed by some elderly sergeant of arms deep inside the building?
If this represents security, I don't think a partiot act will help.
Besides that, did you see the video where you HEARD all those 50 some gun shots? Apparently the honor guard killed this guy with a handgun though, so what are all those additional gunshots for, sport? I want to see the video of this whole damn thing.
Oh, don't worry. Harper has a plan. They will drive the MRAPs, painted with beautiful fall colours, into your neighbourhoods. Speakers will be unloaded in the alleyways and out will poor Harper's swooning Hey Jude vocals. Then peacekeepers in hairy grey helmets will liberate the children with plus-unlethal nerf grenades.
Sorry, sir. But your neighbour was a cult leader. He had to be taken away. We will reform him.
RCMP=KEYSTONE COPS
to answer your points:
Sensenbrenner was framed.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/10/11/patriot-act...
Sayan Chertoff framed Arabs.
http://www.politicolnews.com/chertoffs-role-in-the-patriot-act/
http://www.rense.com/general77/chert.htm
Who is leading the charge in Canda? Anyone with ties to security/MIC corporations and/or deep ties to Israel by chance?
Michael Chertoff's Childhood in Israel - Christopher Bollyn Controlled Press Hides Chertoff's Israeli Roots
Benjamin Chertoff - 911mythsThe senior researcher on Popular Mechanics March 2005 "911: Debunking the Myths" story, Ben Chertoff, is a cousin of Department of Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff
I'm sure the legislators there were up all night writing this new law. No way was it written years ago and just waiting for the right opportunity to push it through.
If you are against this law, you're not with us, you're against us.
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Get it straight. It's terrism plain and simple. Otherwise you'll be bleeding out your ass.
those darn Presbyterians keep getting into trouble, don't they!?!?
/sarc
Canadian privacy is doomed when the find facebook.
Will Canada's security agencies also give the raw data to Israel after having Israeli companies build their sig/com infrastructure?
Can we count on the Canadian media to not much cover it, too?
When you have limitless money, deep connections, megalomania and hyperethnocentrism - you can surely get a lot done.
It's like scoring on the other team when the other team isn't on the field and doesn't know there's a game going on, or that they are, by rule of exclusion, a "team" - whether they know it or not.
Now they will shake down whatever money Americans has on their soil.
Literally police chase a guy with a gun into Parliament, perhaps out of incompetence... so he can shoot up the place in there.
What false flag?
Baaa-aaa-aaaa humbug.
Freedom caves in. The terrorists have won in US, UK, and Canada now.
Osama Bin Laden is smiling from his grave. He has won, hands down!
OBL firstly didn't do crap for 9/11 and secondly whether he's dead or not is entire up for debate.
No, the NWO/Fascist are laughing all the way becoz they keep tricking the fools and they keep falling for the same MO!
LOL and how long ago was the legislation written?
What a laugh.
Dudes, the shooting was a fuckin hoax.
Wake. The. Fuck. Up.
A couple gunshots and all freedom is now gone. We have become cowards who hide and ask for protection from Federal agents. I saw this happen in Britain, then the USA and now my near neighbor Canada has ended freedom as a birthright. The modern birthright is now, give all power to a central police state, in return for protection. A bargain with Satan. Sick, sad, predictable. The liar media feeds this shit with a vengance. 24/7 drum pounding of threats to us. Canada just took a turn to the dark side. And over in my homeland, Sweden, the liar government has cooked up a submarine threat to boost military spending, feed by a liar media, and now will also follow USA foreign policy like fucking beaten dogs.
Submarine? In 20 foot deep waters, littered with reefs, shoals and islands? I've been in submarines, if a real one was inside Stockholms Skärgård, it would have been found! But was this not perfect timing with Ukraine crisis and US declaration of war on Russia?
Swiss gold referendum maybe?
Freedom disappeared in 1994 when Goldman Sachs decided to go the financialization route and do away with Glass-Steagall so they could turn
Capitalism into Casino Capitalism with requisite 'pit bosses' and cashiers'
windows. Moreover, Canadians said nothing when George Bush introduced the 'Patriot Act' and did away with the rights of Americans after 911. Five Eyes guarantees that we share information and security structure between countries. Freedom of speech is next to go in CANADA with the latest legislation outlawing words that neocons don't like.
Very sage advice for Canada?... Speaking as an American of course!
Find a way to run the bum that is your PM and all his surrogates out of office and into a jail cell... Get the Zionist wolf pack out of your government and military...
And above all... Look in the "mirror" to your neighbor south and tell yourselves if you really want to "look like that sorry assed mess that made your current government and the "terrorists" they run what it is today"?!!!
Steven Harper is not speaking for this Canadian.
I saw what happened to the USA the last 30 years, and don't want it to happen here. I am not the only one who thinks this way.
One mentally disturbed individual goes off and kills someone and a whole country has to pay the consequences, no thanks, I'll take my chances with the terrorists.
"I saw what happened to the USA the last 30 years, and don't want it to happen here. I am not the only one who thinks this way."..
cp
I'm sure you're not the only one either. I always use to take great comfort when the Canadian government offered dissenting opinions on American foreign policy especially during the Vietnam years Cold War of the 70's and 80's. What happened?...
You always were a good voice in the Wilderness along with the Australians in the 70's. Did 9/11 do this to Canada?... Not possible!
And even if it did? You have more supporters for a new investigation into what happened on September 11, 2001 to those three buildings than 4/5 of the American populous does which is beyond sickening!
AE911 Truth after being in existence for more than 7 years has finally grown the balls to take the Federal Government on in a lawsuit for it's negligence and fraud -it's just way too little too fucking late!!!
Just look at where we are now and you know that if the average American had demanded answers just 4 years ago that maybe we would finally be out of Afghanistan and Iraq by now, seen Guantanamo closed and Libya as well as Syria whole!
And we Americans wonder why we're so fucking hated by the rest of the World???...
Ah, yes… terrorists hate us because of our freedoms… and Congress promptly shreds the Constitution (again). What are we to conclude but that Congress has been captured by terrorists?
So now it’s Canada’s turn to be saddled with a Canadian Schutzstaffel… er, Department of Homeland Security, which was modeled according to the Nazi Schutzstaffel (SS), the Soviet Cheka and French Committees of Terror (1792-4) – complete with “watchers” and “listeners”, midnight “domiciliary visits”, secret, or no, trials before eliminating dissidents.
But, it’s not all bad. For example, do you have a neighbor that really irritates you? You say there’s only one position open on the faculty at college… and there are six simpering would-be professors ahead of you… and you’d like to get rid of them?
Is that what’s bothering you bunky? Well despair no more. I’ll bet you thought only the CIA, FBI and Mossad were the only legal assassins… and that they worked from lists they compiled.
Well, times have changed. Yes siree! The DHS is waiting for your call. Chair warmers there will take names from anyone. All you have to do is fabricate a story about how that pesky neighbor, creditor or simpering professor is plotting to damage the “national infrastructure”; deliver your lies to the DHS and, within hours, they will get rid of that pesky neighbor, or whatever, for you. Don’t worry about being called an informer: you’ll be known as a “submitting person” and your fabricated story will never be examined in court; for, you only have to give an “express statement” that your lies were “voluntarily given” and that you expected “protection from disclosure”. It’s all there, in the legislation that created the DHS. But don’t do this without first having your lawyer verify this bonanza; he might also help you fabricate the necessary fairy tale. Building an American Schutzstaffel…
The cops should be dancing in the streets. All those new powers and toys. Everything a power tripping tool could ever want. So when does ebola show up? So much for buggin out to Canada?
Let them dance. When the immigrants move in with their tongs and syndicates they'll be dropping like flies. Pols & banksters too. Same as America.
The collective blow job parliamentarians are giving themselves this morning is a fucking gruesome spectacle.
Crisis actors for hire.
http://www.outstandingperformance.co.nz/
Canada had a pretty good run, especially that "sweet spot" in the late 60's. It's likely all over now that we have the "last Government you will ever need".
Seriously, if news came out tomorrow that Harper had advance knowledge of an attack and did nothing to ensure fab PR for the new security measures, I would just go "sure".
Asshole.
Coming off the last 24 hours, listening to the radio a little while ago; a whole bunch of Canadians just collectively did a double-take!
The emotion, the coming together, the reflection, all washed away in an instant: "Uh, wait a sec. What's with these new laws you're about to happily ram through?"
Talk about some "sober second-thought." Something doesn't smell right?
I'm so embarrassed and guilty about even LIVING within the jurisdiction of this authoritarian bunch of thugs presuming to call itself a "government"...
This guy apparently unhappy with his government stifling his objective of joining ISIS at least dealt with those that were blocking his path with the exception of the unlucky veteran who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Condolances to his family.
The perp could have done far worse killing fellow citizens either by snipering or bomb. Instead he attacked the government. That is what scared them. The most chickenshit and cowardly deck the halls of governments everywhere. These scoundrels have no compunction sending you and your loved ones to be killed but writhe in agony when threatened themselves.
Trust me,,, your safety absolutely means nothing to them. It's their safety they're concerned with. To them YOU are the enemy. You are the ones having to be groped at airports and other public transportation areas. You are the ones needing their permission to leave or enter nations. You are the ones having your pets and sometimes yourselves killed by their pervasive police. You are the ones they are disarming.
And you are the ones paying for all of it, blood and treasure.
This perp was willing to give his life for his belief (right or wrong). Maybe if we were willing to do the same to secure the blessings of liberty and freedom for ourselves the cowards in government would think thrice about attempts at taking them.
Very important point, expressed here and in at least one other post: this guy did not go after civilians: wedding parties, funeral parties, hospitals or schools. He went after military men. He became an enemy of the state; but he was not a terrorist. As inferred in this comment, he came to die for his beliefs. That is very different from someone who flies drones with a video console on the ground, or high above in a multimillion dollar war machine.
His act of outrage and murder should not be glorified. But his sacrifice should not be vilified either. He is not a terrorist anymore than a Taliban who would have done the same thing in Afghanistan. This guy wanted to fight directly against the US forces and their proxies in Syria. It turns out that Canada should have let him.
This incident will be used to snuff out the civil libertires of Canadians in order to spare their government from confonting the reality that they all became warmongers, when they sent their military to wage war in a place from which they suffered no harm, not even a tangible threat. Every member of the government and of the military has become an accessory to this unwarranted attack on one faction (among many) in the Middle East -now declared to be an "existential threat"- which had been instigated, trained, and equipped by "intelligence services" of the United States, Israel, and the United Kingdom.
"We are all little Eichmanns", wrote Ward Churchill when he tried to explain the connection between the incredible suffering that the Americans were inflicting in the Middle East through sanctions, and the suffering we were feeling in the wake of the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. For this he lost his tenure, his teaching position and his ability to work. And -even though he won his law suit against the University which inflicted this punishment upon him- he has received no restitution.
Prince Badir of Saudi Arabia -savior of Citibank in 1990 and close family friend of the Bushes- was rejected (along with his donation of $10 million to allay the suffering post 9-11) when he drew the connection between the victims of that attack and the plight of Palestinians. The Al Jazeer network was banished from the New York Stock Exchange and from the international Press pool in the State Department and the White House.
Canadians must now be told that "They hate us for our freedoms." which will now become fewer.
Former Canuckistanian PM (and Bilderberger, Power Corp'er, natch) Jean Chretien's Iraqi legacy: We speak no Americano
Stephen Harper's, current Canuckistanian PM (and Bilderberger/Power Corp'er, natch), Iraqi policy:Tu Vuò Fà L'Americano
Pop quiz: how many terrorist attacks were there in Canada before the self purported 'Conservatives' robocalled their way to a 'majority'?
I've got money on my flank that says more than 26% of Canada's eligible electorate (and not just the civilian portion, either) are desperate for Oct.2015 to hurry up and roll around.
The entire matter was dealt with inside an hour.
They kept several blocks of a major Canadian city in lock down
for 5 hours.
The first hour was doing their job.
The other 5 were about shaking down the "employer".
When you realize the "shooter" was the son of a senior "officer of the government"
and that he was so un prepared to do the job he seemed to be set on doing,
you are left with some doubts about the whole affair.
it seems just too convenient that a murdering terrorist went
sailing right by 2 conference rooms full of Members
of Parliament ( from both the government and opposition
benches ) without taking the obvious opportunity???
Is this a jihadi or just a nut case??? Do Jihadis
really decide to self immolate themselves with
such poor planning and equipment??? Really?
If so ISIS should be a push over...
They sure drew that up fast. Doesn't printing 10,000 pages X 100,000 copies take more than 24 hours?
The web of control. http://canadianawareness.org/2014/01/exposing-the-top-10-canadian-corpor...
If Barrack had an illegitimate son in Canada...
Everyone here has great comments and all, but let's face it, no one has the balls to really do anything!! I know I don't! Maybe I am still too comfortable! Maybe when we all start loosing our comfy lifestyles we will finaly stand up!
Hey Guys!!
RT just dug up this Masterpiece of the Ironic - The Ottawa Gunman was the Son of an Immigration and Refugee Services Manager.
http://rt.com/news/198636-canada-muslim-immigration-chief/
Considering the Panic caused by one man. Imagine if ISIL actually coordinated an "assault team" of sorts. Thanks in part to this Murderer, the CANadians should get their guard up.
Speaking of Personal Combatants of the TEAM_ISIL... Would it be better if we just let them go to ISIL with a "One Way" Passport/Visa instead of keeping them in their Country of Residence? I mean, warn, then recind their Citizenship if they participate? If they fight and come back, they might "bring the ISIL Warfront" to the West (as some of them wish to).
It may be better to encourage them to emigrate to TRK or KSA - instead of going on a shooting spree at the Town Center, Airport, or Train Station. Delaying the inevitable conflict and/or Invasion? Maybe; but chances are, they'll build their own land in the Levant and stick to selling Oil to the West for easy Money and Goods.
NOTE: Commissioner Bob Paulson just had a new press release
stating that the shooter was not being tracked by the RCMP
after all. Paulson said that the shooter was not on the list of 90 (Ss) that had been radicalized are were being tracked by RCMP.
MASTER OF UNIVERSE reporting live from the town that fun forgot.
p.s. There goes our Charter Rights paradigm thanks to the Harper-CONS.
no no but that parliament shooting was totally real, not staged at all, what a coincidence this all is.
The politicians are wrong. They first need to look within their ranks and remove the sympathizers of Radical Islam. Look at the Shooters mother: head of Canadian Immigration and her ex-husband was a Jihadi fighting in Libya while her son become a Radical Islamic Convert? How the fuck did she keep her job and clearance? What kind of moral fiber does she have? Where is her "Reliability Check"?
The people need to become more involved. Until Canadians and Americans realize they are being flooded with infiltrators who will not assimilate to the Canadian and American way of life - and they become more selective in their immigration policies, this will happen as it is in America.
Finally, people must wake up to the real Zombie Invasion. The Radical Islamic Zombie Invasion of Imams, Western Criminal Converts, adolescent Jihadi Zombie Brides and more...until people really look within and stop this invasion....only then will these events cease.
Until then they will simply increase in frequency and severity as the world goes from the Industrial Revolution Age into the Age of Ideas and Technology. Meanwhile the Politicos will persecute and demonize the patriots of their countries as they strive to be 'politically correct' in an effort to get as many votes as possible.
The political correctedness of the politicians will kill us all.
Here is a non-politically correct perspective on how to solve the Radical Islamic Threat.
http://allenbwest.com/2014/10/young-muslim-convert-shot-dead-killing-can...