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EXCLUSIVE: Was Ebola Accidentally Released from a Bioweapons Lab In West Africa?

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Accidents at Germ Labs Have Occurred Worldwide

Nations such as Russia, South Africa and the U.S. have long conducted research into how to make deadly germs even more deadly. And accidents at these research facilities have caused germs to escape, killing people and animals near the facilities.

For example, the Soviet research facility at Sverdlovsk conducted anthrax research during the Cold War. They isolated the most potent strain of anthrax culture and then dried it to produce a fine powder for use as an aerosol. In 1979, an accident at the facility released anthrax, killing 100.

The U.S. has had its share of accidents.  USA Today noted in August:

More than 1,100 laboratory incidents involving bacteria, viruses and toxins that pose significant or bioterror risks to people and agriculture were reported to federal regulators during 2008 through 2012, government reports obtained by USA TODAY show.

 

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In two other incidents, animals were inadvertently infected with contagious diseases that would have posed significant threats to livestock industries if they had spread. One case involved the infection of two animals with hog cholera, a dangerous virus eradicated from the USA in 1978. In another incident, a cow in a disease-free herd next to a research facility studying the bacteria that cause brucellosis, became infected ....

 

The issue of lab safety and security has come under increased scrutiny by Congress in recent weeks after a series of high-profile lab blunders at prestigious government labs involving anthrax, bird flu and smallpox virus.

 

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The new lab incident data indicate mishaps occur regularly at the more than 1,000 labs operated by 324 government, university and private organizations across the country ....

 

"More than 200 incidents of loss or release of bioweapons agents from U.S. laboratories are reported each year. This works out to more than four per week," said Richard Ebright, a biosafety expert at Rutgers university in New Jersey, who testified before Congress last month at a hearing about CDC's lab mistakes.

 

The only thing unusual about the CDC's recent anthrax and bird flu lab incidents, Ebright said, is that the public found out about them. "The 2014 CDC anthrax event became known to the public only because the number of persons requiring medical evaluation was too high to conceal," he said.

 

CDC officials were unavailable for interviews and officials with the select agent program declined to provide additional information. The USDA said in a statement Friday that "all of the information is protected under the Public Health Security and Bioterrorism Preparedness and Response Act of 2002."

 

Such secrecy is a barrier to improving lab safety ....

 

Gronvall notes that even with redundant systems in high-security labs, there have been lab incidents resulting in the spread of disease to people and animals outside the labs.

 

She said a lab accident is considered by many scientists to be the most likely source of the re-emergence in 1977 of an H1N1 flu strain that had disappeared in 1957 because the genetic makeup of the strain hadn't changed as it should have over those decades. A 2009 article in the New England Journal of Medicine noted the 1977 strain was so similar to the one that disappeared that it suggests it had been "preserved" and that the re-emergence was "probably an accidental release from a laboratory source."

 

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In 2012, CDC staff published an article in the journal Applied Biosafety on select agent theft, loss and releases from 2004 through 2010, documenting 727 reported incidents, 11 lab-acquired infections and one loss of a specimen in transit among more than 3,400 approved shipments.

 

The article noted that the number of reports received by CDC likely underestimates the true number of suspected losses and releases.

Indeed, there have been many accidents involving germ research. For example, the New York Times noted in 2005:

In 2002, the discovery of lethal anthrax outside a high-security laboratory at the military's premier biodefense laboratory, the Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick in Maryland, led to sampling throughout the institute.

And the Los Angeles Times reported in 1988:

The Senate report noted that accidents have occurred in the handling of potentially deadly biological material. Vials of biological warfare agents have been misplaced or spilled, it said, employees have been exposed to deadly toxins and a fire once broke out in the high-containment laboratory of the Army's leading germ warfare facility at Ft. Detrick, Md.

Researchers are creating some very dangerous bugs. The Frederick News Post - an excellent local newspaper for the community surrounding the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick - reported in 2010 that the facility would eventually aerosolize Ebola:

Ludwig said researchers at the facility will likely start out working on vaccines for filoviruses such as Ebola and Marburg, as well as new anthrax vaccines.

 

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The facility will have the capability to produce viruses in aerosolized form that would simulate a potential biological attack on the test animals. Ludwig said aerosol is the means of exposure researchers are most concerned with given its implications to battlefield and homeland defense.

A University of Wisconsin-Madison scientist has re-created the 1918 Spanish flu in the lab. The Guardian noted in June:

In an article published last month, [Marc Lipsitch, professor of epidemiology at Harvard School of Public Health] argued that experiments like Kawaoka's could unleash a catastrophic pandemic if a virus escaped or was intentionally released from a high-security laboratory.

 

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Many of the groups that create dangerous viruses to understand their workings are funded by the US National Institutes of Health (NIH). Lord May [the former president of the Royal Society and one time chief science adviser to the UK government] said he suspected the NIH supported the work because officials there were "incompetent" and believed the justifications that scientists told them. "This is work that shouldn't be done. It's as simple as that," he said.

 

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The study identifies particular mutations that made the virus spread so easily. But that is not much use for surveillance, said Lipsitch, because there are scores of other mutations that could have the same effect.

 

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Simon Wain-Hobson, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, said he feared that governments and funding bodies would only take the risks seriously once an accident had happened. "It's madness, folly. It shows profound lack of respect for the collective decision-making process we've always shown in fighting infections. If society, the intelligent layperson, understood what was going on, they would say 'What the F are you doing?'"

Obama Now Claims that He's Shutting Down Domestic Germ Program

The New York Times reported last week that President Obama is so concerned about these accidental releases that he's clamping down on germ research:

Prompted by controversy over dangerous research and recent laboratory accidents, the White House announced Friday that it would temporarily halt all new funding for experiments that seek to study certain infectious agents by making them more dangerous.

 

It also encouraged scientists involved in such research on the influenza, SARS and MERS viruses to voluntarily pause their work while its risks were reassessed.

 

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The announcement, which was made by the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and the Department of Health and Human Services, did not say how long the moratorium would last. It said a “deliberative process to assess the potential risks and benefits” would begin this month and stretch at least into next year.

 

The move appeared to be a sudden change of heart by the Obama administration, which last month issued regulations calling for more stringent federal oversight of such research and requiring scientists and universities to disclose that their work might be risky, rather than expecting federal agencies to notice.

 

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The moratorium is only on research on influenza virus and the coronaviruses that cause SARS and MERS.

 

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The debate over the wisdom of “gain of function” research erupted in 2011 when the labs of Ron Fouchier of Erasmus University in the Netherlands, and Yoshihiro Kawaoka of the University of Wisconsin-Madison, separately announced that they had succeeded in making the lethal H5N1 avian flu easily transmissible between ferrets, which are a model for human susceptibility to flu.

 

The debate heated up further this year when the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention admitted it had suffered laboratory accidents that exposed dozens of workers to anthrax and shipped deadly avian flu virus to another federal lab that had asked for a more benign flu strain.

 

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The White House said the moratorium decision had been made “following recent biosafety incidents at federal research facilities.”

 

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Many scientists were furious that such work had been permitted and even supported with American tax dollars. But others argued that it was necessary to learn which genetic mutations make viruses more dangerous. If those mutations began appearing naturally as the viruses circulated in animals and people, warnings could be issued and vaccines designed, they said.

 

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Richard H. Ebright, a molecular biologist and bioweapons expert at Rutgers University, argued that the long history of accidental releases of infectious agents from research labs made such work extremely risky and unwise to perform in the first place.

Germs Abroad

The U.S. conducts germ research worldwide.  As the Los Angeles Times pointed out in the 1988 article:

The Army conducts or contracts for germ warfare work at 120 sites worldwide ....

The National Journal's Global Security Newswire reported in 2011 that such sites include bioweapon germs such as Anthrax and Ebola in Africa:

The Obama administration has requested $260 million in fiscal 2012 funding to bolster protective measures at African research sites that house lethal disease agents, the Examiner reported on Sunday (see GSN, April 14).

 

The Defense Department funding would be used to safeguard against extremist infiltration facilities in Kenya, Uganda and elsewhere that hold potential biological-weapon agents such as anthrax, Ebola and Rift Valley fever.

The heads of germ research for the Russian and South African governments both say that they intentionally created more lethal forms of deadly germs such as Ebola.

Specifically, the former head of Russia's biological weapons program told PBS:

In the 70s and beginning of 80s the Soviet Union started developing new biological weapons--Marburg infection biological weapon, Ebola infection biological weapon, Machupo infection, [or] Bolivian hemorrhagic biological weapon, and some others.

The head of South Africa's Apartheid-era biological weapons program also worked on weaponizing Ebola. The New Yorker noted in 2011:

Dr. Wouter Basson, and the various apartheid-era clandestine weapons programs he oversaw as leader of Project Coast…

 

South Africans call him Dr. Death. He is regularly compared by the local press, never very persuasively, to Josef Mengele. . .

 

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There were revelations of research into a race-specific bacterial weapon; a project to find ways to sterilize the country’s black population ....

 

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Basson’s scientists were working with anthrax, cholera, salmonella, botulinum, thallium, E. coli, ricin, organophosphates, necrotizing fasciitis, hepatitis A, and H.I.V., as well as nerve gases (Sarin, VX) and the Ebola, Marburg, and Rift Valley hemorrhagic-fever viruses. They were producing crude toxins (and some strange delivery systems) for use by the military and police, and they were genetically engineering extremely dangerous new organisms—creating, that is, biological weapons.

And see this.

Dr. Basson alleges that the UK and U.S. helped South Africa with its biowarfare research:

The U.S. has - in the past - intentionally deployed germ warfare abroad. For example, the Senate's Church Committee found that the CIA decided to bump off the heads of Congo and Cuba using lethal germs.  And the United States sold anthrax to Saddam Hussein in 1985, for the express purpose of using it against Iran. (CIA files also prove that the U.S. supported Saddam Hussein’s use of chemical weapons against Iran.)

Top Bioweapons Expert Speaks Out on Ebola

Washington's Blog spoke with one of America's leading experts on the dangers of research into deadly germs, Dr. Francis Boyle.

Dr. Boyle wrote the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention.

Dr. Boyle served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and is a professor of international law at the University of Illinois, Champaign.

WASHINGTON'S BLOG: You said recently that laboratories in West Africa run by the Centers for Disease Control and Tulane University are doing bioweapons research.  What documentary evidence do you have of that?

You mentioned that a map produced by the CDC shows where the laboratories are located on the West Coast of Africa?

DR. FRANCIS BOYLE:  Yes. They've got one in Monrovia [the capital of Ebola-stricken Liberia] ... one in Kenema, Sierra Leone [the third largest city in the Ebola-hotzone nation], which was shut down this summer because the government there believed that it was the Tulane vaccines which had set this whole thing off.

And then they have another one in Guinea, where the first case [of Ebola] was reported.

All of these are labs which do this offensive/defensive biowarfare work.

And Fort Detrick's USAMRIID [the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases] has also been over there. So it's clear what's been going on there.

CDC has a long history of doing biowarfare work. I have them doing biowarfare work for the Pentagon in Sierra Leone as early 1988.

WASHINGTON'S BLOG:   And how do you know that? Have you seen official documents?

DR. FRANCIS BOYLE:  An official government document: the Biological Defense Research Program, May 1988.  I analyzed it in my book, Biowarfare and Terrorism.

It's clear that [the U.S. bioweapons researchers] were using Liberia to try to circumvent the Biological Weapons Convention.  And CDC - for years - has been up to its eyeballs in biowarfare work.

They always try to justify the development of offensive biological weapons by claiming it's being done for "defensive" purposes.  That's just a lie ... and it's always been a lie.

It's been the case on Ebola and just about every other biowarfare agent you can think of.

WASHINGTON'S BLOG:  Does that type of research violate the Biological Weapons Convention?

DR. FRANCIS BOYLE: Well, of course! It also violates the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act [which Boyle drafted], which was passed unanimously by both houses of the United States Congress and signed into law by President Bush, Senior.

That Act creates life in prison for this type of "Dr. Menegle" type work.

WASHINGTON'S BLOG:  And Obama recently said - as quoted in the New York Times article - that he's "curtailing" this type of defensive research, or putting it on hold.

Do you believe him?

DR. FRANCIS BOYLE:  That's the smoking gun, right there. Read that article [the New York Times article quoted above, which notes "a sudden change of heart by the Obama administration" about labs creating ever-deadlier versions of germs which are already lethal]. 

The reason they've stopped it is to cover themselves, I think, because they know that this type of work was behind the outbreak of the [Ebola] pandemic in West Africa.

But that's an admission right there, de facto.

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Dr. Boyle made it clear that he is not suggesting - as some others are - that Ebola was intentionally released into the African population. He says he has seen no evidence of intentional release.  He's speaking about an accidental release of germs from a biowarfare research lab.

He's convinced, in fact, that this Ebola epidemic in Africa started with the release from a U.S. bioweapons lab in West Africa.   One of the reasons for his conviction that the outbreak started with the release from a bioweapon lab is that this Ebola strain seems to be much worse than those previously seen in the wild.

As Dr. Boyle told us:

It seems to me that [the Ebola epidemic in West Africa] has U.S. biowarfare programs written all over it.

 

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Fri, 10/24/2014 - 00:09 | 5370967 Radical Marijuana
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Some of the people I am associated with are attempting to make colloidal silver more available:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/243129155/Intro-to-Colloidal-Silver-Leaflet

Of course, that is but a tiny drop in the huge ocean ...

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 08:42 | 5371628 dontgoforit
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We have both the ionic colloidal in spray and the .999 bars with distilled water and 24v transformer to make quantities of our own, if the need ever arose.  Note, any time we feel a sore throat coming on, 5-6 sprays into the throat seems to work every time. 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 20:15 | 5370042 Jz kong
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Radical Marijuna,

Need breakthroughs in poly sci and econ? 

More so need to revisit great principles- at the very least Adam Smith, Founding Fathers, Bastiat, and of course throw in some Rothbard.

No need to reinvent the wheel.  But rediscover it.

 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 23:42 | 5370873 Radical Marijuana
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That kind of "wheel" had already been invented long ago, and is not remotely close to being adequate the magnitude of the emerging problems with respect to globalized systems of electronic frauds backed by the threat of the force of atomic bombs, in a world where vast slums of poor people extremely vulnerable to bioweapon plagues exist!

The truisms found in the writings of Smith, Bastiat, and so on, I regard as being more like raw ore, which as to be smelted through more advanced scientific understanding. They had good ideas, but those were expressed in their times, in old-fashioned ways.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 19:44 | 5369901 GCT
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Radical there are times you could shorten and simplify your comments.  To sum it up we are classified as predators.  We are nothing more, no matter how we may think of ourselves.  Why did government even come about?  To protect us from the other tribes trying to take our food and women.  No matter how you frame the system is it all based on this premise.  There will never be a utopia, unless the next war just about causes us to be extinct.

I enjoy reading your comments and many are enlightening.  Those currently in charge exploit us, because we let them.  Most people are greedy and want what their neighbor has or want to look better then eveyone else.  Freedom of the mind and thinking rationally pisses them off as these type of people do not play their games.  There is no total freedom anywhere on this planet.  But you can exercise some freedom by not playing all the games. There are many ways to circumvent the fiat money system although you will not totally get by without it. 

No matter how it is explained or analyzed we allow these poeple to rule over us.  The majority want this and there is nothing you or anyone here can do about it.  Te first law of nature comes to mind.  Eat or be eaten.  There are countries in Africa right eating people.  Congo was one of them last year. 

Nothing is going to change here in the USA until govt bennies get cut off.  Nothing.  We can bitch scream holler for the collapse but nothing will happen until this time or someone shoots off a nuke.  Humans have had these same murder enforcement systems in place since the first chief was appointed!

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 00:55 | 5371057 Radical Marijuana
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GCT, I would say that only a relatively small minority of the human population can be described as predator/parasites. The vast majority of human beings are more like the productive/prey.

One of reasons why my comments are long is it takes context to set up my deeper points: THERE IS A HUMAN ECOLOGY, which was mainly made and maintained by murder systems, operated by those people who specialized in being the predator/parasites, while the vast majority of the rest of the human population adapted to live inside of those social slavery systems, as those became more and more sophisticated methods of "human farming," as science and technology advanced.

I do NOT sympathize with any of the roles taken up by any of the people inside of the established systems, including those positions of the controlled opposition groups. I am attempting to point out how those systems operate as a whole, and therefore, why new systems are necessary, and to promote the theoretical basis for how such new systems could be understood, in order to be implemented.

The vast majority of people are the productive/prey, who have been conditioned to think in ways that facilitate them in filling those roles within the human civilization systems. There is only a small minority who have been conditioned to think like the predator/parasites. That is the way that the established systems were made and maintained, by a relatively small minority, controlling a much larger majority, through backing up lies with violence, to develop social situations of ignorance and fear. Bioweapons can be made to be many orders of magnitude worse than any previously existing natural diseases, because they can be genetically engineered in ways which were previously impossible for nature to do. The worst features of different diseases can be deliberately blended together, all it takes is someone criminally insane enough to do that, and then there are the social conditions, such as sprawling urban slums, and so forth, which could permit those plagues to cause havoc around the world.

What I am arguing for goes way beyond what most of the controlled opposition groups tend to promote, because they tend to stay within the ways of thinking that the productive/prey people use to govern their lives. Similarly, what I am arguing for also goes far beyond what the established predator/parasite people are currently thinking. That is why my comments can not be so easily shortened and simplified, because most people will continue to collapse back to misunderstanding that through either the ways that the productive/prey people think, or the ways that the predator/parasite people think. It is totally common on Zero Hedge for almost all the articles, and most of the comments, to reveal some of the radical truths about how the predator/parasite people think and behave, BUT, then to continue to propose bullshit "solutions" which are still too much based on the ways that the productive/prey people think.

I am attempting to promote ways of thinking that make a creative synthesis that goes beyond what either of those groups tend to do, and how they explain themselves while doing that. That is because I insist that there MUST be some death control systems, and that the only genuine solutions would have to be better death control systems, which made a greater use of information, which facilitated higher consciousness. I embrace militarism as the supreme ideology, but promote radical paradigm shifts in militarism.

However, at the present time, the predator/parasite people have become too successful, for too long, and therefore, have become too criminally insane, such as to develop bioweapons that they could not control, while some of them have become criminally insane enough that they have risked those bioweapons going out of control. In my view, the productive/prey people have to learn more about the predator/parasite people, which includes developing some sympathy for the devil, regarding how and why human ecology developed civilization to become the kinds of social pyramid systems that exist today.

I am recommending that we should understand social pyramid systems as toroidal vortices, which would enable us to better perceive how the bottom and top are connected, in ways which could facilitate operating overall better holistic death control systems. By and large, almost NONE of the people who think like the predator/parasite people, NOR the productive/prey people, are currently able to think outside of their own groups' ways of thinking.

I am suggesting we should develop a Translithic Civilization, that goes beyond the Neolithic styles of civilization. However, almost nobody understands what I am suggesting when I attempt to communicate those ideas, which is why I end up repeating myself in longer comments, to try to encourage people to think in sufficiently different ways.

In my opinion, we have NOT adapted to progress in science enabling technologies to become many orders of magnitude more powerful and capable, because we have NOT developed our social sciences, because that takes understanding how and why human civilizations ended up being controlled by lies, backed by violence, through systems where small minorities specialized to act like predator/parasite people, on top of large majorities of productive/prey people. Continuing to think like either of those groups is NOT good enough, and can not resolve the real problems!

Thinking in radically different ways is what I am indicating is necessary, although such radically different ways are something that the overwhelming vast majority of people have barely begun to attempt to do. The majority of our society works through the established social institutions, along with the controlled opposition groups, to try to continue to condition people to think in the same old-fashioned ways. I am attempting to promote more radical truths, on deeper levels.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 04:14 | 5371303 Sirius Wonderblast
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Try a shorter comment. It might get read.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 18:25 | 5369559 mastersnark
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Duh. Please stop the charade. I'm tired of the make believe. The only thing the govt can do is hurt you. It can literally NEVER help you.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 17:42 | 5369345 shankster
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Prepare now don't wait until it's too late. www.prepsite.org

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 17:14 | 5369187 robnume
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"released form a bioweapons lab"... Check. Accidently? Not on your life!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 18:44 | 5369640 bunnyswanson
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This site says that in 11 years, 2025, the US population will have decreased by over 50%.

http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx?pag=1&sort=GDP&ord=DESC

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 08:38 | 5371617 dontgoforit
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Really?  Wanna bet?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 16:38 | 5368966 disabledvet
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So if this was an accidental release from a lab what's this dude's view on containment?  Gives whole new meaning to the term "the cover up is worse than the crime" when you send in the boots on the ground yes?

Again...never assume conspriracy when pure idiocy will suffice.

This whole premise going on six years of this shit reminds me of Inspector Clouseau and the "blind beggar and his monkey" where Clouseau is arguing over a "permitting issue" while the Bank gets robbed.

WHO GIVES A PHUCK IF THIS IS AN EXPERIMENT GONE BAD?  JUST KEEP IT OVER THERE ASSHOLES!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 16:39 | 5368961 Reaper
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The flaw is we trust these people, because they have credentials and work for the government. How do credentials or government employment protect against stupidity, carelessness, hubris, and the unexpected? They do research into the the unknown and cannot know what may happen. Worse, still, there are the human failings of anger, maliciousness and deliberate action.

The greater fools are those who trust them.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 12:50 | 5372812 Withdrawn Sanction
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"How do credentials or government employment protect against stupidity, carelessness, hubris, and the unexpected?"

Short answer, they dont.  Such things actually enable the very outcomes we are witnessing.  It's the self selection process at work.  Those w/honor, integrity, and self-respect dont work for government because they realize what it is and what it does.  If by some mistake they wind up in government, they compromise said principles or they resign.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 08:33 | 5371596 dontgoforit
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And, the over-riders, the handlers of the handlers.....they take orders from whom?  Exactly.  And we all know what they are capable of.  Not to mention, what happens when a well-trained delta-type group raids one of those labs and offs with the latest iteration of the badest shit out there?  Bingo.  No one is safe when nature is tinkered past the orgasmic point.  I believe they passed that point decades ago.  What about that lab in Scandanavia or somewhere up in N EU last year that was very suddenly shuttered and it was disclosed they had come across an agent (virus) that was the end-all of end-alls?  Who walked away with that stuff and the knowledge of how to fabricate it?  Agenda 21 may be our future. 

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 12:34 | 5372713 dontgoforit
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And any remnants of that story have been scrubbed off the web.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 16:36 | 5368952 Smiddywesson
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The one common factor in all these events is the human one.  When dealing with humans, what CAN happen eventually WILL happen.  That is why safe firearms handling rules are so stringent, they KNOW you are going to slip up and violate one rule, but the others exist to save you from your folly.

 

The only way to prevent these accidents is to just not go there in our research.  You can't expect protocals to save you from human nature.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 16:36 | 5368950 teslaberry
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the irony of this video ---is that in 30 to 40 years there will be no more white folks living in south africa. they are 4 million of them now. almost all in two cities, joburg an capetown. 

 

the dwindling white south african population is only ONE financial crisis away of a major crime wave race baiting squeeze. 

as an embattled , yet 'wealthy' minority compared to the massive numbers of highly impoverished souther africans , almost all of whom are black-----------their days are numbered. 

they are the only remaining european white tribe left on the african continent.  

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 16:13 | 5368829 BouncyTheWonderbunni
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Fearfuckery at it's best, lost me soon as I read Amnesty International .

 

Of course it's Amerikkkas fault it's always Merikkkas fault.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 16:39 | 5368967 George Washington
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Excellent work "steering our perception", soldier:

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 18:29 | 5369576 mastersnark
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Good work spy catcher. Everyone admits the truth in their biography. #Winning

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 08:27 | 5371585 dontgoforit
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Sounds like a former friend of mine.  He would take a position on anything just to see what you said or how you reacted.  Yeah - he was and still is a dickhead.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 17:12 | 5369165 BouncyTheWonderbunni
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If you want to date Georgy just ask I will put my size 14 red pumps just fer you <wink> huggs and kisses always.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Love Bounci with and I just fer you!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 15:56 | 5368744 SocialismIsCancer
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Yikes, they caught me !

But my conscience is clear :-))

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 15:55 | 5368731 silentsock
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What the hell....

West Africa itself IS a Bio-Weapons Lab!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 19:34 | 5369862 daveO
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Back in the 80's, AIDS supposedly came from there. Gee, I wonder what kind of labs the Army had there back then? There was more than one nut who thought that one was intentional. 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 15:46 | 5368659 Urban Redneck
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George,

You should really call or email him back with some follow up questions on WHEN and WHERE he thinks it is possible that it was accidentally released.

Particularly in light of the Schoepp/Rossi paper this summer- (http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/20/7/13-1265_article)

And the "Dead Scientist" paper this fall- (http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6202/1369.full)

The low information nutters around here start popping boners anytime someone mentions Kenema, but even as the crow (or fruit bat) flies- Kenema is a LONG distance over ROUGH terrain (unpaved) to Guéckédou for the disease to have traveled last December (or earlier). Even with human carriers and motorized transit- it took 5 months to make the reverse trip, almost twice as long as the travel time to Conakry.

Then there is the genetic similarity (or difference) between the "background ebola" that has been present in West Africa for years and whatever is going around this year... As far as I am aware- out of the hundred or so DNA sequences mapped so far, there is only 1 active lineage in West Africa they have identified in the current outbreak. However, I haven't come across any published DNA sequences of the previous years' LASV-negative samples that tested positive for ebola antibodies (which is actually somewhat disturbing).

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 08:24 | 5371577 dontgoforit
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Bats can fly long distances.  And, when you poop on the beach (a la Freetown) shit happens.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 13:29 | 5373003 Urban Redneck
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True, but if you read the articles, it is at least as likely that the bats would have migrated from the birthplace of the Zaire ebola strain.

There are also the issues of what sorts of animals are used as test subjects in biowarfare labs (since likely escape vectors are not that batty), what other zoonotic diseases have been tracked to the local bat population (since they have not even established that fruit bats actually are a natural reservoir for the ebola virus, unlike the nipa virus), and the all-important timeline.

IF, IF, IF, IF... THEN you really don't want to look at any pictures of the bat migration patterns in North America, since even if they sealed the southern border it wouldn't do shit if ebola makes it to Mexico and into the local bat population... but I'm now digressing to level of fear-mongering that I bust on others for...

Edward Lorenz had a point, but to prove any such a theory or estimate realistic odds, takes expertise from myriad fields, and many experts in each of the respective fields.

Hence the follow up questions... providing color to a couple small pieces of a very large puzzle.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 15:37 | 5368656 RougeUnderwriter
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Steven King already wrote this movie - THE STAND

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 16:23 | 5368878 stant
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This is part duex , staring the golfing dude

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 15:33 | 5368627 GIABO
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Hey America... Ever here of SIDNEY GOTTLIEB? EBOLA IS AND WAS A FALSE FLAG

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 16:03 | 5368765 TeethVillage88s
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Sounds like a Lawyer. Have to look him up.

Here is a broad problem area... lawyers in government, banking, politics, and in raising cost of health care & getting justice from courts or government.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/23/us-usa-alabama-police-idUSKCN0...

Lawyer gets $500K man gets $1K.

Sidney Gottlieb (August 3, 1918 – March 7, 1999) was an American chemist and spymaster best known for his involvement with the Central Intelligence Agency's 1950s and '60s assassination attempts and mind control program, known as Project MKUltra.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 03:55 | 5371281 ebear
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"Sounds like a Lawyer. Have to look him up."

Better call Sid!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 15:29 | 5368601 jubber
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Fuck me this shit was Tinfoil just two months ago I remember reading a US bio weapons lab adjoined to a hospital....

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 20:48 | 5370167 Paveway IV
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Kenema in Liberia

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 15:17 | 5368538 flacorps
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If it happens four times per day in situations where taking the requisite precautions would mean it NEVER happens, can it be considered anything other than intentional?

Either we can contain this stuff or we can't. If we can contain it, then it's mandatory that we do so. If we can't contain it, then it's mandatory we stop messing with it.

There can be no fence-straddling.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 08:20 | 5371564 dontgoforit
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Being involved in intentionally or accidentally releasing it is genocide.  1st degree murder on a large scale.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 15:10 | 5368502 alexcojones
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Accidentally on Purpose

FIFY

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 15:06 | 5368472 loregnum
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I wouldn't say it was accidental if this was indeed released from that lab. 

As for humans and their messing around with viruses...the species deserves every negative thing that may happen if/when they get released for being this stupid. If an asteroid or the sun doens't wipe the species out then humans will eventually go extinct by their own actions. What a great "evolved" species!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 15:32 | 5368625 Cynicles
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Human testing. No accident, merely a last option for plausible deniability.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 15:03 | 5368455 Lumberjack
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George Soros, The Man Who Kissed Off Norilsk Nickel, Novolipetsk Steel, Svyazinvest, And The Bank Of England, Announces Aid To Yet Another Economy Desperate To Be Loved

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/flash-george-soros-the-man-who-kissed-off...

 

CONAKRY – Guinea’s President Alpha Conde on Tuesday enlisted the help of billionaire investor George Soros to review the resource-rich West African nation’s mining code and fight corruption in the sector.

Conde told a press conference after meeting with Soros that the new mining code will punish companies caught bribing officials and would retroactively punish current license holders if it was established that they were involved in any bribery.

Newly elected Conde had said in January that he planned to revise the country’s mining code to give the state a 33% stake in mining projects, from 15% now.

“There will be a clause in the new code which would prohibit any company from giving bribes. Any company caught giving bribes would lose its license or be penalized, Conde said.

“This also means that for companies that have already signed, we will check if they signed against bribes. If this was the case, then we would either cancel the contract or inflict a penalty,” Conde told journalists.

Conde added that all current mining contracts would be renegotiated under the new code and future mining licenses would also be granted under the code.

He said the country was turning to Soros because Guinea could not afford to pay international consultants.

Soros for his part, said he had agreed to lend his support to Guinea, the world’s biggest supplier of the aluminum ore bauxite, following the holding of democratic elections and the transition to civilian rule last year.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 18:49 | 5369667 George Washington
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Relevant:

As one example, Edmonds said that – during the late 90s and early 2000s – perhaps 30-40% of the people working for NGOs operated by George Soros were actually working for the U.S. State Department.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 20:58 | 5370162 Lumberjack
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I agree, GW. Sibel was on the right track but should have looked at the energy issue. I had a conversation with her former employer regarding an issue back in 02 when I was an elected public official.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 20:48 | 5370160 Lumberjack
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I agree, GW. Sibel was on the right track but should have looked at the energy issue. I had a conversation with her former employer regarding an issue back in 01 when I was an elected public official.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 16:06 | 5368790 kumquatsunite
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Ah yes, and if you check the guest list for Soro's 2013 marriage (his third to a woman in her early 40s) was Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, president of Liberia. Interesting eh?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 16:00 | 5368754 Urban Redneck
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2011 is not even the genesis of the Soros-Steinmetz-Africa-Raping-Jewish-Oligarch-Cage-Match.

His Open (Slavery) Society's subsequent work on publication of mining contracts is also noteworthy (and alarming) for the contracts and concessions it did not publish online. Little György is like a sovereign government unto himself, naming his pet NGOs as the antithesis of their function (just like US Congress critters and their "Patriot" or "Clean" anything crap).

Too bad I've actually seen the Ministry of Mines concession maps and directories... Soros came up way short when you take into account both the different minerals and types of licenses/concessions issues (e.g. exploration vs production). But if I wanted to make a killing flipping .gov paper in Guinea I know just how to do it...

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 20:07 | 5369621 Urban Redneck
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To give a an idea of how "open" György's idea of an "Open Society" actually is... To date, www.contratsminiersguinee.org has published 41 concessions minières 7 permis de reserches et permis d'exploitations and 4 permis de reserche minière (and some of the published documents are "renewals" or appendixes to other filings). So without going through each one I'll be generous, and say they published data on only 52 Mining Contracts.

The total number of sites that have permits or concessions is more than an order of magnitude larger (i.e there are more than 520 contracts).

So little György should really rename his NGOs "The 10% Open Society Foundations"

The way the Ministry structures its contracts varies by mining product (for example. they don't issue full blown concessions with base metals (ex iron & bauxite), just permits) The full breakdown of the different types and groupings of contract for the different minerals is provided below:

Bauxite and Iron - 1) concessions minières or 2) permis de reserche minières
Gold - 1) concessions minières or 2) permis de reserches et permis d'exploitations
Diamonds - 1) concessions minières or 2) permis de reserches et permis d'exploitations or 3) permis de reserche minières
Uranium - 1) permis de reserche minières
Base Metals - 1) permis de reserche minières or 2) permis d'exploitation et permis de dragage
Construction Materials 1) permis de reserches et permis d'exploitations

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