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George Soros Slams Putin, Warns Of "Existential Threat" From Russia, Demands $20 Billion From IMF In "Russia War Effort"

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If even George Soros is getting concerned and writing Op-Eds, then Putin must be truly winning.

Here are the highlights from what the Open Society founder has to say about the "existential" Russian threat in a just released Op-Ed:

Europe is facing a challenge from Russia to its very existence. Neither the European leaders nor their citizens are fully aware of this challenge or know how best to deal with it. I attribute this mainly to the fact that the European Union in general and the eurozone in particular lost their way after the financial crisis of 2008.

Getting warmer:

[Europe] fails to recognize that the Russian attack on Ukraine is indirectly an attack on the European Union and its principles of governance. It ought to be evident that it is inappropriate for a country, or association of countries, at war to pursue a policy of fiscal austerity as the European Union continues to do.

Even warmer:

All available resources ought to be put to work in the war effort even if that involves running up budget deficits

And hot, hot, hot:

[IMF] should provide an immediate cash injection of at least $20 billion, with a promise of more when needed. Ukraine’s partners should provide additional financing conditional on implementation of the IMF-supported program, at their own risk, in line with standard practice.

And there it is: the Russian "existential" war threat is, to Soros, nothing but an excuse to end the whole (f)austerity experiment (just don't show Soros Europe's latest record high debt load), and to return to its drunken sailor spending ways.

Ironically, this is precisely what we said would happen, only the globalist neo-cons were hoping the Ukraine civil war would become an all out war between Russia and Ukraine, thus unleashing the "spend your way to prosperity" Soroses of the world. For now, this plan has failed which is why ISIS was brought into the picture.

But it never hurts to try, eh George. And the one thing that is not mentioned is that the people who would gain the most from this latest IMF spending spree would be, you guessed it, billionaires like George Soros of course

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From George Soros, first posted in the New York Reviews Of Books

Wake Up, Europe

Europe is facing a challenge from Russia to its very existence. Neither the European leaders nor their citizens are fully aware of this challenge or know how best to deal with it. I attribute this mainly to the fact that the European Union in general and the eurozone in particular lost their way after the financial crisis of 2008.

The fiscal rules that currently prevail in Europe have aroused a lot of popular resentment. Anti-Europe parties captured nearly 30 percent of the seats in the latest elections for the European Parliament but they had no realistic alternative to the EU to point to until recently. Now Russia is presenting an alternative that poses a fundamental challenge to the values and principles on which the European Union was originally founded. It is based on the use of force that manifests itself in repression at home and aggression abroad, as opposed to the rule of law. What is shocking is that Vladimir Putin’s Russia has proved to be in some ways superior to the European Union—more flexible and constantly springing surprises. That has given it a tactical advantage, at least in the near term.

Europe and the United States—each for its own reasons—are determined to avoid any direct military confrontation with Russia. Russia is taking advantage of their reluctance. Violating its treaty obligations, Russia has annexed Crimea and established separatist enclaves in eastern Ukraine. In August, when the recently installed government in Kiev threatened to win the low-level war in eastern Ukraine against separatist forces backed by Russia, President Putin invaded Ukraine with regular armed forces in violation of the Russian law that exempts conscripts from foreign service without their consent.

In seventy-two hours these forces destroyed several hundred of Ukraine’s armored vehicles, a substantial portion of its fighting force. According to General Wesley Clark, former NATO Supreme Allied Commander for Europe, the Russians used multiple launch rocket systems armed with cluster munitions and thermobaric warheads (an even more inhumane weapon that ought to be outlawed) with devastating effect.* The local militia from the Ukrainian city of Dnepropetrovsk suffered the brunt of the losses because they were communicating by cell phones and could thus easily be located and targeted by the Russians. President Putin has, so far, abided by a cease-fire agreement he concluded with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko on September 5, but Putin retains the choice to continue the cease-fire as long as he finds it advantageous or to resume a full-scale assault.

In September, President Poroshenko visited Washington where he received an enthusiastic welcome from a joint session of Congress. He asked for “both lethal and nonlethal” defensive weapons in his speech. However, President Obama refused his request for Javelin hand-held missiles that could be used against advancing tanks. Poroshenko was given radar, but what use is it without missiles? European countries are equally reluctant to provide military assistance to Ukraine, fearing Russian retaliation. The Washington visit gave President Poroshenko a façade of support with little substance behind it.

Equally disturbing has been the determination of official international leaders to withhold new financial commitments to Ukraine until after the October 26 election there (which will take place just after this issue goes to press). This has led to an avoidable pressure on Ukrainian currency reserves and raised the specter of a full-blown financial crisis in the country.

There is now pressure from donors, whether in Europe or the US, to “bail in” the bondholders of Ukrainian sovereign debt, i.e., for bondholders to take losses on their investments as a precondition for further official assistance to Ukraine that would put more taxpayers’ money at risk. That would be an egregious error. The Ukrainian government strenuously opposes the proposal because it would put Ukraine into a technical default that would make it practically impossible for the private sector to refinance its debt. Bailing in private creditors would save very little money and it would make Ukraine entirely dependent on the official donors.

To complicate matters, Russia is simultaneously dangling carrots and wielding sticks. It is offering—but failing to sign—a deal for gas supplies that would take care of Ukraine’s needs for the winter. At the same time Russia is trying to prevent the delivery of gas that Ukraine secured from the European market through Slovakia. Similarly, Russia is negotiating for the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe to monitor the borders while continuing to attack the Donetsk airport and the port city of Mariupol.

It is easy to foresee what lies ahead. Putin will await the results of the elections on October 26 and then offer Poroshenko the gas and other benefits he has been dangling on condition that he appoint a prime minister acceptable to Putin. That would exclude anybody associated with the victory of the forces that brought down the Viktor Yanukovych government by resisting it for months on the Maidan—Independence Square. I consider it highly unlikely that Poroshenko would accept such an offer. If he did, he would be disowned by the defenders of the Maidan; the resistance forces would then be revived.

Putin may then revert to the smaller victory that would still be within his reach: he could open by force a land route from Russia to Crimea and Transnistria before winter. Alternatively, he could simply sit back and await the economic and financial collapse of Ukraine. I suspect that he may be holding out the prospect of a grand bargain in which Russia would help the United States against ISIS—for instance by not supplying to Syria the S300 missiles it has promised, thus in effect preserving US air domination—and Russia would be allowed to have its way in the “near abroad,” as many of the nations adjoining Russia are called. What is worse, President Obama may accept such a deal.

That would be a tragic mistake, with far-reaching geopolitical consequences. Without underestimating the threat from ISIS, I would argue that preserving the independence of Ukraine should take precedence; without it, even the alliance against ISIS would fall apart. The collapse of Ukraine would be a tremendous loss for NATO, the European Union, and the United States. A victorious Russia would become much more influential within the EU and pose a potent threat to the Baltic states with their large ethnic Russian populations. Instead of supporting Ukraine, NATO would have to defend itself on its own soil. This would expose both the EU and the US to the danger they have been so eager to avoid: a direct military confrontation with Russia. The European Union would become even more divided and ungovernable. Why should the US and other NATO nations allow this to happen?

The argument that has prevailed in both Europe and the United States is that Putin is no Hitler; by giving him everything he can reasonably ask for, he can be prevented from resorting to further use of force. In the meantime, the sanctions against Russia—which include, for example, restrictions on business transactions, finance, and trade—will have their effect and in the long run Russia will have to retreat in order to earn some relief from them.

These are false hopes derived from a false argument with no factual evidence to support it. Putin has repeatedly resorted to force and he is liable to do so again unless he faces strong resistance. Even if it is possible that the hypothesis could turn out to be valid, it is extremely irresponsible not to prepare a Plan B.

There are two counterarguments that are less obvious but even more important. First, Western authorities have ignored the importance of what I call the “new Ukraine” that was born in the successful resistance on the Maidan. Many officials with a history of dealing with Ukraine have difficulty adjusting to the revolutionary change that has taken place there. The recently signed Association Agreement between the EU and Ukraine was originally negotiated with the Yanukovych government. This detailed road map now needs adjustment to a totally different situation. For instance, the road map calls for the gradual replacement and retraining of the judiciary over five years whereas the public is clamoring for immediate and radical renewal. As the new mayor of Kiev, Vitali Klitschko, put it, “If you put fresh cucumbers into a barrel of pickles, they will soon turn into pickles.”

Contrary to some widely circulated accounts, the resistance on the Maidan was led by the cream of civil society: young people, many of whom had studied abroad and refused to join either government or business on their return because they found both of them repugnant. (Nationalists and anti-Semitic extremists made up only a minority of the anti-Yanukovych protesters.) They are the leaders of the new Ukraine and they are adamantly opposed to a return of the “old Ukraine,” with its endemic corruption and ineffective government.

The new Ukraine has to contend with Russian aggression, bureaucratic resistance both at home and abroad, and confusion in the general population. Surprisingly, it has the support of many oligarchs, President Poroshenko foremost among them, and the population at large. There are of course profound differences in history, language, and outlook between the eastern and western parts of the country, but Ukraine is more united and more European-minded than ever before. That unity, however, is extremely fragile.

The new Ukraine has remained largely unrecognized because it took time before it could make its influence felt. It had practically no security forces at its disposal when it was born. The security forces of the old Ukraine were actively engaged in suppressing the Maidan rebellion and they were disoriented this summer when they had to take orders from a government formed by the supporters of the rebellion. No wonder that the new government was at first unable to put up an effective resistance to the establishment of the separatist enclaves in eastern Ukraine. It is all the more remarkable that President Poroshenko was able, within a few months of his election, to mount an attack that threatened to reclaim those enclaves.

To appreciate the merits of the new Ukraine you need to have had some personal experience with it. I can speak from personal experience although I must also confess to a bias in its favor. I established a foundation in Ukraine in 1990 even before the country became independent. Its board and staff are composed entirely of Ukrainians and it has deep roots in civil society. I visited the country often, especially in the early years, but not between 2004 and early 2014, when I returned to witness the birth of the new Ukraine.

I was immediately impressed by the tremendous improvement in maturity and expertise during that time both in my foundation and in civil society at large. Currently, civic and political engagement is probably higher than anywhere else in Europe. People have proven their willingness to sacrifice their lives for their country. These are the hidden strengths of the new Ukraine that have been overlooked by the West.

The other deficiency of the current European attitude toward Ukraine is that it fails to recognize that the Russian attack on Ukraine is indirectly an attack on the European Union and its principles of governance. It ought to be evident that it is inappropriate for a country, or association of countries, at war to pursue a policy of fiscal austerity as the European Union continues to do. All available resources ought to be put to work in the war effort even if that involves running up budget deficits. The fragility of the new Ukraine makes the ambivalence of the West all the more perilous. Not only the survival of the new Ukraine but the future of NATO and the European Union itself is at risk. In the absence of unified resistance it is unrealistic to expect that Putin will stop pushing beyond Ukraine when the division of Europe and its domination by Russia is in sight.

Having identified some of the shortcomings of the current approach, I will try to spell out the course that Europe ought to follow. Sanctions against Russia are necessary but they are a necessary evil. They have a depressive effect not only on Russia but also on the European economies, including Germany. This aggravates the recessionary and deflationary forces that are already at work. By contrast, assisting Ukraine in defending itself against Russian aggression would have a stimulative effect not only on Ukraine but also on Europe. That is the principle that ought to guide European assistance to Ukraine.

Germany, as the main advocate of fiscal austerity, needs to understand the internal contradiction involved. Chancellor Angela Merkel has behaved as a true European with regard to the threat posed by Russia. She has been the foremost advocate of sanctions on Russia, and she has been more willing to defy German public opinion and business interests on this than on any other issue. Only after the Malaysian civilian airliner was shot down in July did German public opinion catch up with her. Yet on fiscal austerity she has recently reaffirmed her allegiance to the orthodoxy of the Bundesbank—probably in response to the electoral inroads made by the Alternative for Germany, the anti-euro party. She does not seem to realize how inconsistent that is. She ought to be even more committed to helping Ukraine than to imposing sanctions on Russia.

The new Ukraine has the political will both to defend Europe against Russian aggression and to engage in radical structural reforms. To preserve and reinforce that will, Ukraine needs to receive adequate assistance from its supporters. Without it, the results will be disappointing and hope will turn into despair. Disenchantment already started to set in after Ukraine suffered a military defeat and did not receive the weapons it needs to defend itself.

It is high time for the members of the European Union to wake up and behave as countries indirectly at war. They are better off helping Ukraine to defend itself than having to fight for themselves. One way or another, the internal contradiction between being at war and remaining committed to fiscal austerity has to be eliminated. Where there is a will, there is a way.

Let me be specific. In its last progress report, issued in early September, the IMF estimated that in a worst-case scenario Ukraine would need additional support of $19 billion. Conditions have deteriorated further since then. After the Ukrainian elections the IMF will need to reassess its baseline forecast in consultation with the Ukrainian government. It should provide an immediate cash injection of at least $20 billion, with a promise of more when needed. Ukraine’s partners should provide additional financing conditional on implementation of the IMF-supported program, at their own risk, in line with standard practice.

The spending of borrowed funds is controlled by the agreement between the IMF and the Ukrainian government. Four billion dollars would go to make up the shortfall in Ukrainian payments to date; $2 billion would be assigned to repairing the coal mines in eastern Ukraine that remain under the control of the central government; and $2 billion would be earmarked for the purchase of additional gas for the winter. The rest would replenish the currency reserves of the central bank.

The new assistance package would include a debt exchange that would transform Ukraine’s hard currency Eurobond debt (which totals almost $18 billion) into long-term, less risky bonds. This would lighten Ukraine’s debt burden and bring down its risk premium. By participating in the exchange, bondholders would agree to accept a lower interest rate and wait longer to get their money back. The exchange would be voluntary and market-based so that it could not be mischaracterized as a default. Bondholders would participate willingly because the new long-term bonds would be guaranteed—but only partially—by the US or Europe, much as the US helped Latin America emerge from its debt crisis in the 1980s with so-called Brady bonds (named for US Treasury Secretary Nicholas Brady).

Such an exchange would have a few important benefits. One is that, over the next two or three critical years, the government could use considerably less of its scarce hard currency reserves to pay off bondholders. The money could be used for other urgent needs.

By trimming Ukraine debt payments in the next few years, the exchange would also reduce the chance of a sovereign default, discouraging capital flight and arresting the incipient run on the banks. This would make it easier to persuade owners of Ukraine’s banks (many of them foreign) to inject urgently needed new capital into them. The banks desperately need bigger capital cushions if Ukraine is to avoid a full-blown banking crisis, but shareholders know that a debt crisis could cause a banking crisis that wipes out their equity.

Finally, Ukraine would keep bondholders engaged rather than watch them cash out at 100 cents on the dollar as existing debt comes due in the next few years. This would make it easier for Ukraine to reenter the international bond markets once the crisis has passed. Under the current conditions it would be more practical and cost-efficient for the US and Europe not to use their own credit directly to guarantee part of Ukraine’s debt, but to employ intermediaries such as the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development or the World Bank and its subsidiaries.

The Ukrainian state-owned company Naftogaz is a black hole in the budget and a major source of corruption. Naftogaz currently sells gas to households for $47 per trillion cubic meters (TCM), for which it pays $380 per TCM. At present people cannot control the temperature in their apartments. A radical restructuring of Naftogaz’s entire system could reduce household consumption at least by half and totally eliminate Ukraine’s dependence on Russia for gas. That would involve charging households the market price for gas. The first step would be to install meters in apartments and the second to distribute a cash subsidy to needy households.

The will to make these reforms is strong both in the new management and in the incoming government but the task is extremely complicated (how do you define who is needy?) and the expertise is inadequate. The World Bank and its subsidiaries could sponsor a project development team that would bring together international and domestic experts to convert the existing political will into bankable projects. The initial cost would exceed $10 billion but it could be financed by project bonds issued by the European Investment Bank and it would produce very high returns.

It is also high time for the European Union to take a critical look at itself. There must be something wrong with the EU if Putin’s Russia can be so successful even in the short term. The bureaucracy of the EU no longer has a monopoly of power and it has little to be proud of. It should learn to be more united, flexible, and efficient. And Europeans themselves need to take a close look at the new Ukraine. That could help them recapture the original spirit that led to the creation of the European Union. The European Union would save itself by saving Ukraine.

—October 23, 2014

 

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Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:28 | 5367026 flapdoodle
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I have no doubt the .001% sociopaths like Soros and Gates have regular body part transplants from healthy children to sustain their life... where do you think all those illegal alien children escorted through the southern border of the US went?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:22 | 5367255 Lanka
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He probably has his future heart donor already identified, and equipped with RFID.  He is definately among the most hated!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 08:55 | 5366866 Last of the Mid...
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Soros slams Puting, Are you kidding me, Both of them need to step off the earth and we'd be much better off and certainly one is no better than the other, (or worse)

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:15 | 5366957 new game
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putin for NWO prez! s/

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:14 | 5366958 RougeUnderwriter
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We do live in a Tower of Babel era now

 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 08:55 | 5366868 Danno Anderson
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Always follow the money, especially with George Soros.  If he's whinning, he must be losing. 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:29 | 5367030 Captain Willard
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This.

He's obviously long Ukraine sovereign debt and/or short the Ruble. After breaking Sterling, manipulating events in Ukraine and meddling in elections world-wide, he's shocked to find that EU politicians ignore his pleas.

What is Ukraine anyway? What was Yugoslavia? The people living there get to decide, right? Lines on a map drawn by Stalin hardly seem worth going to war over.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:43 | 5367084 Volkodav
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Lines of borders moved/changed by Lenin, Stalin, Kruschev

none were Russian

 

Crimea returned

Kruschev was a Ukrainian national

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 21:08 | 5370258 Dublinmick
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Kruschev was jewish.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 13:35 | 5368083 Helix6
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I'm guessing Soros has shorted the Ruble and he's now talking his book.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 08:56 | 5366870 pendragon
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it's good to be contrarian but all this russia love is a bit ridiculous

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:14 | 5366959 sandman.s
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Well, I've followed this Ukraine thing since the beginning.  And I've looked at a lot of different sources trying to understand what is going on over there.  It's really obvious after a while that the Russians are the ONLY ones making sense out there right now.  Putin is the only sensible player in this game.  So it's hard not to have a little admiration for the guy.  Especially when compared to our politicians.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:28 | 5367031 new game
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putin is the cleanest dirty shirt leader/billionaire(anybody with that much money is truely a bad person). billionaire so to clarify he is still a sociopath. but hey, wtf, he a peoples leader after all da profits from da oil...(he could do a little sharing with his fellow country man and woman(like alaska).

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:51 | 5367120 Volkodav
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15 Years of Putin

http://ozziesaffa.blogspot.com/2014/06/15-years-of-putin-rule-in-one-inf...

 

useless talkings

prove any of your statements.

media dumb you down much?

Alaska was never resurrected from collapse as Russian Federation has risen.

 

 

 

 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:31 | 5367533 Honey Badger
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The cleanest dirty shirt is still a dirty shirt.  I'm a guy and I wouldn't fuck the best looking guy in the world because he is still a guy.  Putin is not honest, he is the least dishonest.  I am surpirsed that few here get that.  And I wish the tylers would get Putin's cock out of their mouths.  His name was Honey Badger. 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 21:09 | 5370268 Dublinmick
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Get Netanyahoo's slong out of your mouth.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:48 | 5367111 McCormick No. 9
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I have to agree. If I may indulge in some analogy contrasting foreign policies...

Russia: A 1973 Plymouth four-door sedan (slant 6 model), driven by a 63 year-old, teetotaling Grandmother to church. in other words, respectable, sober, and moving in  a definite, understandable direction.

United States: This guy, but perhaps more accurately, a 1982 Yugo with a blown 454, 4/11 posi rear end, running on nitro, and driven by a meth-crazed 16 year-old with no driver's license and bad teeth, heading straight for a bridge abutment.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:50 | 5367354 RaceToTheBottom
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Love the car analogies.

Not quite sure of the image of a Russian teetotaling grandmother, but loved the rest of it...

 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:21 | 5367486 Manipuflation
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"Well, I've followed this Ukraine thing since the beginning"

So what?  Now you are an expert on Russia?  I think you should go visit Russia if you really want to understand.  It's far more complicated than you think.  Reading about Russia on the internet can be informative but it is not the same as actually going there.    

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 08:55 | 5366872 the not so migh...
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Mr. Soros, there is a warrent for your arrest!!!

 http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2014/03/28/vladimir-putin-russia-...

 

 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:08 | 5366928 Urban Redneck
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Warrants are issued by courts (or in some jurisdictions by prosecutors), that article was written by a Nigerian email scammer (hopefully not just after relocating to the USSA with a raging case of Eeeeeeeeeebola).

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:17 | 5366971 Volkodav
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Not credible site.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:41 | 5367082 the not so migh...
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ACKNOWLDGED

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 08:59 | 5366873 JustObserving
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The demon of the West is now engaged in the demonization of Putin. The irony must be lost on the aging Soros.

How many millions of lives did you ruin in Thailand alone, Soros?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 08:57 | 5366876 Catullus
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Existential threat means threat to your very existence. Not way of governance. As in, your life is in grave danger.

He's saying, run up $20bn in debt or your very existence is a stake.

Can we stop giving these quacks a forum to run their mouths?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 12:23 | 5367748 stopthejunk1
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Not really.  From the perspective of a state, "way of governance" is your existence.  It is the existence of the state that is threatened, not the people themselves... although if the state falls, the people will be in an awful mess, because conquerers are not kind to the indigenous.  See Iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam for example.

 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 08:56 | 5366877 pods
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Well, we've gone full retard.  Thanks George.

Anyone else getting that feeling that the pressure in this world is getting a bit too high and a blowoff is a coming?

pods

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:11 | 5366940 Otto Zitte
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Just prelude to fake elections. Don't want anyone to look into the backgrounds of the current field of criminals and traitors seeking to rob, rape and slaughter them.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:20 | 5366996 new game
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pressure cooker, haha, roundup coming, zh'ers first s/

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:24 | 5367011 unplugged
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I'll see your pressure cooker and raise you 10 bags of fertilizer.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:35 | 5367052 new game
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long armor plate and fabric, black and more black darthy stuffs...

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 08:58 | 5366878 Irishcyclist
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George Schwartz.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:03 | 5366905 COSMOS
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Suprise he has lasted longer than Safra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmond_Safra

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:18 | 5366972 GetZeeGold
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You've got a good memory....that's been a while now.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:10 | 5367196 Overfed
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Too bad that doesn't happen to Soros and a few others I can think of.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 08:57 | 5366880 john_connor
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Putin is a threat to Soros pocketbook and his version of NWO 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 08:58 | 5366883 hotrod
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Last I recall Putin was trying to enjoy his Sochi Olympics when the west instigated a coup in Kiev.  Who really is the universal existential threat?????? 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 08:59 | 5366885 nightwish
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Take a flying fuck off a cliff Soros, and take your Ruble short with you. J_bastard.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 08:59 | 5366889 GeezerGeek
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George Soros: "Europe is facing a challenge from Russia to its very existence. Neither the European leaders nor their citizens are fully aware of this challenge or know how best to deal with it."

My version: "The USA is facing a challenge from Obama (and TPTB) to its very existence. Neither the pundits nor its citizens are fully aware of this challenge or are willing to deal with it."

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:04 | 5366895 Urban Redneck
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As if that walking crime against humanity didn't help kill enough Europeans in the last World War, he now wants to start another.

Why is Soros allowed to continue breathing, much less walking free?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:00 | 5366897 Skip
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros
born August 12, 1930, in Budapest, Hungary, as György Schwartz)

The family changed its name in 1936 from Schwartz to Soros, in response to growing anti-semitism with the rise of Fascism. Tivadar liked the new name because it is a palindrome and because it has a meaning. Although the specific meaning is left unstated in Kaufmann's biography, in Hungarian, soros means "next in line, or designated successor", and in Esperanto, it means "will soar". His son George was taught to speak Esperanto from birth and thus is one of the rare native Esperanto speakers. George Soros later said that he grew up in a Jewish home, and that his parents were cautious with their religious roots.

Like Soros and Bloomberg et al it reminds one of the fable of the Scorpion and the Frog:

The scorpion wants to cross a stream, but he can't swim. He sees a frog and asks the frog to carry him across on the frog's back. The frog says, "No, I don't trust you. I've heard about how treacherous scorpions are. I'm afraid that if I let you get on my back you'll sting me." The scorpion replies, "Why should I do that? That wouldn't be in my interest. If I sting you, then we'll both drown." So the frog agrees to let the scorpion get on his back and begins swimming across the stream. Halfway across, the scorpion stings the frog. As the frog is dying and beginning to sink, he asks, "Why did you do that? Now we'll both die." The scorpion answers, "I couldn't help myself. It is in my nature to sting."

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:28 | 5367006 Jethro
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Oh, Soros is from Hungary?  Buzi kocsog bankster....

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:02 | 5366908 discopimp
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All this war talk and gold still sliding...welcome to the New Normal!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:39 | 5367067 new game
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all ok, again. wow skitzo markets.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:05 | 5366916 FlyinHigh
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FUCK YOU George Soros in your ass ! ! !

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:13 | 5366955 nightwish
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+1000 for putting it so simply lol

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:21 | 5366997 unplugged
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Isn't he Greek ?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:48 | 5367108 LULZBank
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Once we were at this party which got overrun by gays (1 of the organisers was gay). Not a big deal but they started acting like pricks after a few drinks like telling all guys to leave their gfs/wives and join them, same "you dont know what you are missing" bullshit.

This guy was going nuts with anger and said to me "I wish I could take them out in the back garden and fuck them in the ass but the problem is they will enjoy it."

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:05 | 5367178 nightwish
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Gays wanting to bang straight guys - now there's an existential threat for ya

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 20:32 | 5370110 PrintemDano
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I'm guessing you passed on the poopie dick.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:05 | 5366917 Whoa Dammit
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I would hate to be his gofer that has to caary around those bags under his eyes so that he doesn't trip over them.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:05 | 5366919 Martian Moon
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After what the banksters and their minions / useful idiots put Russia through in the 20th century

I am amazed the Russians haven't gone after the banksters yet

Wipe their bloodlines from this Earth Putin, you cannot bargain with the devil, the world will owe you a debt of gratitude

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 13:12 | 5367991 Monty Burns
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I often wondered the same thing.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:07 | 5366925 Winston of Oceania
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"If even George Soros is getting concerned and writing Op-Eds, then Putin must be truly winning"

What is Charley Sheen his campaign manager? Winning? I hate Sorros but really please explain how this winning of your works...

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:08 | 5366932 Grimaldus
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George Soros---the face of progressive tyranny.

 

Grimaldus

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:08 | 5366933 HandyCrapper
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WB7...Soros looks like he had a hatchet to his face ala Trotsky. Is there a bounty on his head?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:26 | 5366993 scatterbrains
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Is he and Mr Yellen related ?  They look like they could be twins.. scull structure wise anyway eww

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:08 | 5366934 chubbar
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There are so many fucked up statements in this article by Soro's it's hard to know where to start. The U.S. clearly wants to overthrow Syria but somehow Soro's equates the russians giving Syria S-300's as helping ISIS because it may lead to the US not having air superiority? Fucking ISIS wouldn't even exist but for the efforts of the CIA. Actually, the Ukrainian war wouldn't be happening without the efforts of the CIA either. How the fuck he comes to the conclusion that the Russians are the bad guys when NATO (AKA US) has spent the past 20 years encircling Russia and threatening them with ever more lethal missle batteries is anyone's guess. This is just the banksters whining for war so that they can impose western central banking on the few remaining significant holdouts and ensure that their corrupt system remains dominant.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:46 | 5367100 flapdoodle
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You waste your time expecting Soros to say anything different.

The *real* news for me (if true) is that Russia finally sucked it up and gave Assad the S-300 - Putin seemed to be putting this off as a favor to the Israelis, and if Soros is ranting about it, most likely it actually came to pass.

Clearly, this blocks the Israeli air corridor for an attack on Iran, of course the Iranians probably got them too at this stage.

Unfortunately, reading the Saker blog it is likely that Ukraine round two is just around the corner - Ukraine will go all in to take the rebel territories, and the fighting may ratchet up quite a bit this time as I'm sure the ZATO military help has been pouring in to the Ukies...

So, its likely to be an exciiting three months to the end of the year...

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:33 | 5367294 Yen Cross
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  I was going to refute some of the statements Soros made, but you did a pretty damn good job for me. How Soros thinks Putin would help the U.S. in any way in Syria is beyond fucking retarded.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 21:44 | 5370083 Againstthelie
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And lots of hidden messages. The financial ones have been adressed, I want to focus more on the sociopolitical ones:

A few examples:

I consider it highly unlikely that Poroshenko would accept such an offer. If he did, he would be disowned by the defenders of the Maidan; the resistance forces would then be revived.

A almost clear threat to Poroshenko what will happen, if he would nominate a good PM that would deescalate.

 

The recently signed Association Agreement between the EU and Ukraine was originally negotiated with the Yanukovych government. This detailed road map now needs adjustment to a totally different situation. For instance, the road map calls for the gradual replacement and retraining of the judiciary over five years whereas the public is clamoring for immediate and radical renewal.

This is not enough, now the Jews want even more.

As the new mayor of Kiev, Vitali Klitschko, put it, “If you put fresh cucumbers into a barrel of pickles, they will soon turn into pickles.”

Klitschko is a Jew.

Chancellor Angela Merkel has behaved as a true European with regard to the threat posed by Russia. She has been the foremost advocate of sanctions on Russia, and she has been more willing to defy German public opinion and business interests on this than on any other issue.

So harming the German economy and act against the interests of Germany is truly European.

Merkel, shortly before the Ukrainian coup in 2013 was initiated, visited Israel and received the highest Israeli medal.

And Europeans themselves need to take a close look at the new Ukraine. That could help them recapture the original spirit that led to the creation of the European Union.

The flag of the EU consists of TWELVE yellow stars and was designed by a Jew named Levy.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:09 | 5366935 Skip
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"I suspect that he may be holding out the prospect of a grand bargain in which Russia would help the United States against ISIS—for instance by not supplying to Syria the S300 missiles it has promised, thus in effect preserving US air domination—and Russia would be allowed to have its way in the “near abroad,” as many of the nations adjoining Russia are called. What is worse, President Obama may accept such a deal."

I sure as heck hope that THAT isn't true, Assad is the GOOD GUY in Syria, then again consider the source the snake, Soros.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:09 | 5366938 Panic Mode
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Is that his new style of hedging?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:11 | 5366948 Irishcyclist
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I would have thought that someone of George Schwartz stature could raise 20 billion from his own resources.

George is an out and out rat.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:12 | 5366952 SilverIsMoney
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Expat to Russia? More and more it seems like a good idea... What a Bizzaro world when an American is actually going down this line of thinking.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:19 | 5366982 unplugged
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I've felt the same way for months now myself.  I told my wife that and she thought I was insane.  Guess its just me and the dogs.  I'll get more peace & quiet that way anyhow.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:54 | 5367132 Civilizedworm
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I have too..been looking into it for a while and me and the wife just kind of made an unofficial decision to do it yesterday. We are going to try and join a  missionary organization to work with the russian orthodox church to go to siberia and there teach english. Not a bad gig. I'm not on on the worship putin bandwagon, and I distrust all governments but they have honestly been the good guys, if there are any good guys. At any rate I think it's suicide to stay in america at this point. We have got to see the writing on the wall and everytime I see someone like soros saying russia is enemy number one it reinforces my view that they may be the best choice. They've got flat tax, promote morals, stay out of debt, and low population density has a very strong and direct correlation with general happiness. Im thinking a nice little self sustaining village out in the middle of siberia to raise a family away from the cultural rot and consumerism sounds really nice. 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:54 | 5367377 RaceToTheBottom
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If you really do that, please stay in touch and keep us informed.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:22 | 5367493 Civilizedworm
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Also, if I do end up there, I will definitely let ZH know what its really like over there. It'll be a while from now, likely a couple years but I think its very important that russians and americans learn to understand each other a little bit better, considering the nuclear weapons and all.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 17:39 | 5369326 Manipuflation
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Well stated and +1 CW.  It would be great if everyone was reasonable.   

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:57 | 5367391 sleigher
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Can I carry your bags for you?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:58 | 5367396 Manipuflation
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I plussed you all but I'm not so sure.  Russia is not what you perceive it be.  I suggest visiting first and then making a life decision.  The Russians may not want you there.  And to be clear, Russia is more of a police state than the U.S. is.  I know because I have been there more than once and I am married to a Russian for over ten years now.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:19 | 5367485 Civilizedworm
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I do plan on visiting, and I have been busting my butt to learn the language. Ive read alot about it and I expect some contempt from the fact that I'm american. I can't really blame them there, americans by and large are incredibly ignorant to the outside world. I just talked to a guy yesterday and mentioned ukraine his response was "Isn't that what russia is fighting to take over?" (facepalm) But anyway, I plan on visiting several times before settling in long term. In your experience, are you talking about Moscow, St Petersburg, and the large cities or the more backwater places out farther east? We plan on being out in the country and I would assume that would be less of a hassle then being a foreigner in moscow where you would be targeted for police harrassment or mugging or whatever. Also I seriously doubt russia is more of a police state, and the way trends are going they wont surpass the US in that regard in the future. It is seriously screwed up here.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:42 | 5367580 Manipuflation
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I agree that it is seriously fucked up here but in Russia you can be asked for your papers while walking down the street.  I know this to be a fact because it happened to me and the "cop", read crook, couldn;t speak English, was drunk and wanted a bribe.  If I hadn't had my wife with me who speaks Russian and is Russian, who knows what would have happened.

St Petersburg is beautiful and you should visit but it isn't what Russia really.  If you want to see some rural Russia I suggest visting Rostov-on-Don.  The red mafia make themselves quite obvious there.  You can go wherever you wish of course but what I think gets glossed over by a lot of people is that Russia is not homogenous and a Russian does not automatically like another Russian.  For example, St. Petersburgers and Moscovites do not neccessarily like one another and it is rooted in the fact that the capitol has changed a couple of times.  If you go be careful of that landmine because if you say the wrong thing then you will be the ignorant American asshole.  

For the most part, the Russians just look past the corruption as though it is a fact of life.  You have to remember that it was the Soviet Union not long ago.  It's impossibale for me to explain.  You have to go see it for yourself and if you do, make sure to keep every receipt and every stupid little peice of paper because when you go to leave you will be asked for it and you WILL be searched.  

If you can get past that bullshit and meet some regular Russians and become friends you will find that they are very nice people.  Not that, you'll be drunk as fuck.  Watch out for Russian birthday parties!       

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 12:13 | 5367689 Civilizedworm
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Good advice sir, I'll take it all to heart. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I see it most contempt comes from the foreigners not speaking the language, like in america for example people (generally) only hate the mexicans who cant speak english, and if a cop pulls over a mexican who speaks no english theyre probably gonna end up in quite a bit of trouble (read: civilian asset forfeiture or just the general assumption that they're running drugs and will probably spend the night in jail.) I work in an "immigration detention facility" so I know exactly how bad it goes for the cats who cant speak english. I assume its the same everywhere you go within reason, and like I said I plan on learning the language first so I'm not the ignorant american. Also I compare it to getting stopped in america and getting fined and up to getting put in jail for not having proof of insurance while driving, which is full retard if anything ever was full retard. And the fact that cops will pull you over for no reason and claim it was for failure to maintain lanes...anyway I'm not here to discuss which is more of a police state with you, they both have their downfalls. I see russia as a more or less recovering state, or at best, like you said one that knows the curruption is there and its just a part of life. Not really getting better or worse just being. Would you agree from your experience? As to america, the corruption seems to be a lot more hidden, and you get into the enemy you know versus the one you dont. However america is certainly on a very fast downward slope as to where russia seems to be trying to recover from the fubarness that was the soviet union. Again, i havent been there yet, and plan on avoiding the big cities. Im more interested in the nature and small town side of things, which has deteriorated here and a big reason why I want to leave. 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 15:24 | 5368574 Manipuflation
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That is a very intelligent and thoughtful reply Sir.  You are correct that language is a barrier although many young Russan can speak English it is just they do not want to for two reasons.  Why should they and what the fuck is the matter with you?  In fact, I learned a new Russian curse word today.  It sounds like "Suki" which means "bitch".  Our three year old son has been running around saying it profusely.  The Russianwomanhead who is my wife complains that I teach our children too many cuss words and that we don't have the diversity of curses that Russians do.  This is probably true.  

Russians are highly intelligent people from what I have seen.  There really is a corruption problem there and you bring up a valid point in that we hide it better than they do.  But we let it go and so do they.  I think you would have a great visit.  A couple of things come to mind from my trips there.  Don't smile in public;  smiling means you are an idiot to Russians.  This is why you do not see Russians smiling very often.  I asked my wife why smiling so taboo and she replied "We are supposed to walk with smiles on faces all day?  You are idiot!"  So don't do that. 

Wear dark clothing.  Russians do not wear bright colors unless it is festival.  Wear fur or leather.  I saw some of the most beautiful fur coats there and it is part of their culture.  PETA wouldn't last long there.:-)  Outward appearance is very crucial to the Russians.  They will sacrifice buying food to buy expensive clothing.  It is not so prevelant in the men per se but you will notice that Russian women will not get out of the way for each other.  This confused me at first.  I guess the best way to explain it is that it is like a game of "chicken" and they bump into each other on purpose.  The men do not do that but the women are fierce with bumping into each other.  It is something that I will never forget.  I had to ask why the women can't step out of the way for each and the response was "Why should we?".  OK then.

Then there is the traffic; it's bumper cars and you are not even safe on the sidewalks because a sidewalk is also a parking spot.LOL

Stay out of that tourist trap that is Moscow.  St Petersburg would be a better choice to start with.  Most Russians have not even seen all of Russia much less me.  Depending on where you decide to go it will be a very different experience.  The further you go out into the countryside the more risk you take but the more that you will see.  That is the part of Russia you really want to see.  You will learn what it really is like there.  

If you are really serious about travelling to Russia you can e-mail at manipuflation@boatingaccidentnews.com and we can discuss the pain in the ass .gov crap on both sides.  My wife could do a hell of a lot better job explaining Russia than I can.              

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 15:34 | 5368644 Civilizedworm
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Wow, excellent. You will likely be hearing from me in the near future. Excellent email address by the way.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 17:33 | 5369289 Manipuflation
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I'm glad you liked it.  There is more of course.  Now you have to go experience it for yourself.  I think you will be just fine.  It is wise to ask questions or else the tourist sharks will empty your wallet very quickly.  Check out Azov.  It is hard to get there but it is off the tourist radar.

 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 20:39 | 5370137 ListenToTISM
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Excellent conversation between you two. This is the sort of stuff I come to zerohedge for. Thanks.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 22:18 | 5370589 Manipuflation
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I encourage the idea of a trip to Russia.  You have to meet the people for yourself.            

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 22:05 | 5370510 IronForge
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If you want to check it out for Emigration, etc. It makes good sense.  Their Tech Base is Awesom; and they don't plan on farming everything out to India and China as US Firms have.  As a matter of fact, one of their Defense Vice Ministers on TV (and Youtube) mentioned that they're recruiting Professionals from around the World.

One thing for sure - there WON'T be any Energy Shortages there.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:13 | 5366954 rsnoble
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Is this fucking piece of shit going to live forever?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:19 | 5366988 unplugged
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Never know - his plane could hit a snow plow.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:06 | 5367430 Billy Shears
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I guess he is sort of like the Osama bin Laden of the status quo TPTB will probably keep him "around" long after his "expiration date," wouldn't surprise me.

 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:14 | 5366960 homiegot
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Soros the Nazi. Last time the Nazis tried to take Russia it wasn't good.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 21:15 | 5370199 Againstthelie
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Thats the problem when lies dominate the history books.

The Nazis were the ones that fought against these forces. From 1917 on Soviet Russia was in their hands.

Russia today is more or less liberated, is not a ZOG anymore, but Putin and the government NEEDS the myth of the Great Patriotic war and the old Communist propaganda to unite the country.

One must understand, what this seven decades old myth means for their patriotism: were able to defeat the Nazis.

The real background, the pre-emptive strike of Germany, that the Soviet Union was preparing to roll over Europe, the Holodomor, all that is not meant, when Putin or the government protects and works with the myth. It unites the Russians.

I had warned about it from late 2013 on. Russia today is very much in the same position as Germany from 1933 on: International Jewry had declared war on it, because it's government under Putin removed the Jewish control over it's resources and politics and media and developes an economy that is more and more excluding the international banksters. That's what Hitler did and what the REAL reason was, why the enemy of mankind provoked WW2.

The difference is, that today's Russia is not officially reacting to the Jewish threats, while Hitler's government offensively acted:

When international Jewry declared war on Germany in March 1933, already two months after Hitler took power, and started with economic sanctions against German businesses, the German government responded with a boycott of Jewish shops.

People today know the photos, where SA-troops are standing in front front of stores and attaching posters with the text "Germans! Defend yourselfes. Do not buy in Jewish shops":

http://europenews.dk/files/KauftNicht1.jpg

But who knows that this was the German retaliation to the Jewish declaration of war and the Jewish sanctions against German businesses worldwide, especially in USA?

 

So far Russia is trying to ignore this dimension. But I do not believe that it will work.

After this incredible letter of Soros to me it is clear, that the international Jew has decided to wage war against Russia (ofcourse not itself, he uses, as always, other nations that fall victim to his false propaganda).

The good news is, that Russia militarily and geopolitically is in a WAY better position than Germany was. Russia has nuclear weapons, it has endless resources and it has very potent allies, especially China.

Germany, geopolitically in an awful position, without resources, only had Italy as ally.

So this time there is hope, that the enemy of mankind will not get what he wants! And maybe in ten or twenty years we will look back and the bankster tyranny, the smoke and mirrors economy, the everywhere present lying will make us wonder, if it was only a bad dream or was our time real.

I often ask myself, if I could believe it, if I would not live in that time, where everything has been turned upside down, if I would read about it in a book or someone would tell me about it.

What happens every day is so fucking incredible. Just like this letter from Soros.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:16 | 5366964 Billy Shears
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Time to have the old Field Marshal uniform sent to the dry cleaners , just in case!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:17 | 5366967 viedoklis_lv
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Once again Zero objectivity from Zero Hedge. Here is Zero Hedge staff photo from some event:

https://twitter.com/lennutrajektoor/status/525162240992116738/photo/1

They really like to **** putin's ****

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:05 | 5367183 sandman.s
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What is there to be objective about?  Russia is not the bad guy here.  You can read all the propaganda you want on Yahoo or CNN, but no matter how hard you wish, it is still not true.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:07 | 5367192 Volkodav
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lame post

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:54 | 5367370 Shirley Swanepoel
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A lame post? Blame it on Soros having diarrhea thanks to Putin. Fucking old Zionist should die already. You know the devil takes care of his own.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:17 | 5366969 Jethro
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Dear Vladimir Putin,

 

Nobody, anywhere in the world, would care if George Soros and his entire family somehow died of polonium poisoning.

 

Sincerely,

 

Jethro

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:23 | 5367009 Volkodav
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"The Phony Litvinenko Murder" William Dunkerley 

 

media dumb you down much?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:17 | 5366976 Skin666
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IS GEORGE SOROS ATTEMPTING A COLOUR REVOLUTION IN WEST AFRICA? GLOBALISTS MAKE POWER GRAB AFTER ORCHESTRATING EBOLA CRISIS

http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2014/09/02/emergency-update-george-soros...

 

*SOROS FOUNDATION “OPEN SOCIETY INITIATIVE ” JOINS CALL FOR ECOWAS ENVOY TO TAKE CONTROL OF EBOLA CRISIS TOGETHER WITH WHO AND UN

http://allafrica.com/stories/201409012854.html

http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/regions/africa

*ECOWAS IS ANOTHER SOROS – FUNDED ORGANIZATION PUSHING THE GLOBALIST ECONOMIC AGENDA

http://news.ecowas.int/presseshow.php?nb=005&lang=en&annee=2008

http://www.panapress.com/ECOWAS,-Open-Society-institute-to-extend-areas-of-cooperation–12-511768-100-lang1-index.html

*SOROS HAS SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL INVESTMENTS IN WEST AFRICA INCLUDING THE MANOCAP SOROS FUND

http://sedfny.org/portfolio/active-portfolio/manocap-soros.html

ttp://www.sedfny.org/portfolio.html

*SOROS FOUNDATION FUNDED KEY PERSONNEL IN  BIOWEAPONS LAB AT THE CENTRE OF THE EBOLA OUTBREAK IN KENEMA

http://vhfc.org/consortium/people/sabeti

*SOROS LINKED TO USAID

http://www.infowars.com/crisis-in-the-ukraine-usaid-support-for-destabilization-of-russia/ 

*WHO SPOKESMAN GLENN THOMAS MYSTERIOUS DEATH OFFICIALLY EXPLAINED BY MH17 CRASH IN UKRAINE ON HIS WAY TO HIV CONFERENCE: EBOLA AN OFFSHOOT OF THE HIV BIOWEAPONS PROGRAMME?

*SOROS FOUNDATIONS PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN OVERTHROW OF ELECTED UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT AND ITS REPLACEMENT BY CENTRAL BANKERS: SAME PATTERN OF ORDER OUT OF CHAOS FOR WEST AFRICA?

http://www.infowars.com/soros-admits-responsibility-for-coup-and-mass-murder-in-ukraine/

*CDC CHIEF TOM FRIEDEN THREATENS SIERRA LEONE PRESIDENT WITH CATASTROPHE IN HOURS, FORCES OUT HEALTH MINISTER MIATTA KARGBO DAYS AFTER SHE CRITICIZED UN CHIEF NABARRO OVER LACK OF FUNDING

http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_200526108.shtml

https://www.facebook.com/statehouse.freetown/posts/363752363775942:0

*LIBERIAN PRESIDENT SIRLEAF DEFIES WHO AND CDC, SAYS DEATH PROJECTIONS OVER THE TOP

http://allafrica.com/stories/201409010984.html

*MOVES TO OUST HER FOR UN INTERIM GOVERNMENT BY CAMPAIGN ORGANIZED ON SOCIAL MEDIA INTENSIFY

http://allafrica.com/stories/201409011017.html?aa_source=acrdn-f0

 

When does this gimp die???

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:34 | 5367051 Urban Redneck
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A little logic please... "THEY" ALREADY HAVE THE POWER AND A HUGE SLICE OF THE PIE (and all the best parts of that pie since they got first choice by virtue of showing up first).

They are trying to protect their investments, simultaneously from Ebola and the Chinese (and to a lesser extent the ever incompetent Obozo bungler).

BTW - Manocap is peanuts and facilitates vastly underestimating the amount of political capital that Soros has invested in West Africa (in a Mario Draghi sort of way)...

This isn't about color revolutions and "grabs" in West Africa, but to be fair Soros has already had his local coup.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 21:41 | 5370394 Againstthelie
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I disagree. This is not defense, this is FULL ATTACK.

You underestimate their goals. It's the world. And all nations. Nothing less.

And although they already had Russia 15 years ago, it slipped through their fingers. And these Russian goyim even dare to build an alternative economic system after they commited the crime to grab their country back and they are building up allies. And even worse: they begin counter-propaganda and they are successful, because of this damn internet, that has broken the news monopoly of international high finance: everyone can watch RT and hear the Russian arguments and then judge, which side has the better arguments.

That's not how the clever trick with "free press" has worked for 200 years! It worked with the ILLUSION of pluralism, but not real pluralism where the authentic arguments of both sides can be heard.

We are living in the next huge transformation stage, where the enemy of mankind is preparing his second or third step (Russia, then China) before his final goal (world government).

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 23:23 | 5370802 Urban Redneck
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The Americans aren't doing anything that will change the real course of events in Africa.

The Chinese are lending to the Africans right now at the same nominal rate they would be paid for long term US debt (if they were still buying Uncle Sam's BS).

What is the US going to do, offer up a new currency paradigm based on commodity money or production instead of services and financialization? Tempt the Africans back into US debt slavery with offers from ExIm and WBG at three times the cost? Africa already thinks Obama is an over promising under delivering dilettante.

And if this evola thing makes the local economies go tits up, oligarch holdings will find their way into princelings' hands.

I don't see any realistic offensive victory.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:17 | 5366978 mantrid
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Liar liar pants on fire. His NGOs are always along with NED and CIA toppling elected leaders that USA labelled as unwanted

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:20 | 5366983 jmcadg
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Fuck you Soros. Haven't you died already. NWO scum.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:20 | 5366989 dexter_morgan
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Is Soros, that piece of satans shit, still alive? Too bad.....

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:20 | 5366991 Son of Captain Nemo
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When will this "ancient" Zionist motherfucker die!...

Oh wait a minute we want him alive to see him loose everything he has?...

Zerohedge thanks for the post and making both my day and year with this post!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:22 | 5367003 himaroid
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Either way, drinks all around on me.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:21 | 5366999 q99x2
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Arrest, and prosecute him before he dies. Don't let him get away.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:45 | 5367093 Son of Captain Nemo
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Arrest, and prosecute him before he dies. Don't let him get away.

Because if we don't this Zionist piece of shit will start World War III!  And trust me. He doesn't care about what he leaves behind when he "checks out" because it's always been about him!!!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:22 | 5367005 Skin666
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George Soros, his Ebola bioweapons lab and the death of WHO spokesperson Glenn Thomas in the Ukraine

http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2014/07/25/george-soros-ebola-and-the-de...

 

Some dots for you to connect:

*George Soros’s foundation has funded personnel working in the Kenema bioweapons lab at the focus of the Ebola outbreak, and which is about to be closed, apparently amid an investigation. 

* WHO media coordinator Glenn Thomas was highly likely involved in fielding media and other inquries about how WHO view and what it planned to do about the controversial Kenema lab.

Was Glenn Thomas aware of hard evidence showing that the lab was faking  positive diagnoses for Ebola — Tulane University? — in order to justify forcing people to undergo treatment which would give them Ebola? Did he refuse to go along with the cover up?

*The mainstream media is silent about the Kenema bioweapons lab closure as well as about the order to Tulane University to stop Ebola testing. So, what other channels are there left for this information to enter the public domain or be spread through social media networks if WHO does not release the information or take action?

*George Soros has links to Sierra Leone President Ernest Koroma

http://blogs.reuters.com/globalinvesting/tag/emerging-emerging-markets-frontier-markets-sierra-leone-africa-investment-george-soros-ernest-bai-koroma-tony-blair-anadarko/

*Soros also has links to the non-elected, far right, banker-controlled Ukrainian government, implicated in MH17 crash killing Glenn Thomas

http://www.infowars.com/soros-admits-responsibility-for-coup-and-mass-murder-in-ukraine/

*The Ukraine government shot down MH17, argues German blogge fefe.

Fefe’s argument: BUK missile launchers use radar and their signals can be tracked by NATO.

If NATO is suppressing the missile radar coordinates, then it is because the BUK missiles were launched by the Ukrainian government.

http://www.mmnews.de/index.php/politik/19212-mh17-fefe-ukraine-wars

*Soros attended the wedding of Dutch prince Johan Friso who married an employee of Soros in 2004

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/04/24/1082719675482.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/johan-friso-dutch-prince-touched-by-scandal-dies-at-44/2013/08/14/96cae1fe-04fc-11e3-9259-e2aafe5a5f84_story.html

*The Dutch government flew back  40 bodies of the MH17 victims, call for a war crimes probe

http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2014/07/22/mh17-war-crime-probe

The Durch Prime Minister said another 200 bodies were being transported by train. But there were only 188 passengers on the MH17 according to Malayasian airlines. Where are all these bodies coming from?

*The Ukrainian bankster-controlled prime minister resigned yesterday, as brawls swept parliament over plans to crack down on civil rights and escalate the conflict with the ethnic Russian eastern Ukrainian provinces

http://news.yahoo.com/two-ukrainian-parties-leave-parliament-coalition-trigger-election-101228504.html

 

*Soros’ Open Society Foundation and and investment funds are active in the “Ebola death triangle” of  Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea

http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/press-releases/new-partnership-jump-starts-development-sierra-leone-and-liberia

Connecting these dots, does it seem likely to you that billionaire Soros had

a) a motive for killing WHO spokesperson Glenn Thomas to stop the news spreading through official channels that the Ebola outbreak was orchestrated in a Soros-funded lab;

b) a motive for silencing him very soon;

c) the means of silencing him by staging a fake air crash in the Ukraine?

d) the support of the Bilderberg, global elite?

Interesting is the complete silence of the mainstream media on the  closure of the Kenema lab posted on the Sierra Leone Ministery of Health facebook site.

If the media really were a free press, interested in investigating scandals in the public interest and in reporting facts as the so called “fourth estate”, this story about the Kenema lab closure would be front page news around the globe just as the story of Baxter contaminating 72 kilos of seasonal flu in its biosecurity level 3 lab and sending it to four countries in 2009 should have been front page news.

It is the total media blackout and silence which red flags the key, global stories. The key story of 21st century is that we have entered an era of biological warfare. The main warfare is not conducted between nations but between the elite and the people of the globe using also vaccines, weaponized viruses and mass deception.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:29 | 5367282 flapdoodle
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Don't forget Satan Jr., a.k.a. Bill Gates, whose fingerprints are all over the Kenema lab operation, along with his other "humanitarian efforts" in promoting population reduction (specifically in Africa) through various means...

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:22 | 5367007 dexter_morgan
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Which reminds me, where has all the ebola hysteria gone? And why?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:23 | 5367012 craus
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Not Zoros related but USA751/AWE751 Brussel to Philly brought back to Brussells.

It's just doing large ovals now by Zottegem? It's about 25 km west of Brussells. WTF?

http://www.flightradar24.com/AWE751/4a38ebc

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:47 | 5367107 NotApplicable
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Interesting, I wonder if they're burning off fuel at the moment?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:25 | 5367013 silverer
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It's bad enough to have a government that uses war as a way of life to feed its special interest contributors.  Now we have billionaire participants in the cheering section coming out into the open.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:48 | 5367115 NotApplicable
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Sadly there's nothing new about this.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:27 | 5367020 peggleball
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Ukraine is just noise.  Europe should continue to increase economic and social integration. And ramp up military integration. NATO shoud preferably be a an alliance of two, US & EU.

 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:27 | 5367021 WhoIsJohnGaltCoin
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BULLISH!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:21 | 5367023 orangegeek
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Schwartz aka Soros is a currency trader and talks his book.

 

Soros creates his little activist groups (jobless university grads that are willing to yell at phony injustices and carry signs with retarted jargon written upon them) to bend politicians' minds to feed - wait for it - his book.

 

Soros usually plays the activist card when he wants to turn a buck on energy - usually oil.

 

Soros is just another Icahn - run the general store by buying low, selling high.  The rest is invented filler.

 

Soros is shitting on Putin - looks like Soros is ready to buy into weakness.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 09:57 | 5367268 a common man
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Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:37 | 5367313 flapdoodle
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One of the great misdirection plays of TPTB is that they are only in it for the money. I don't buy that for one second (excuse the pun).

After you have a certain amount of money, quantity ceases to have any real meaning. If you take away 90% of Soros, Buffett's or Bill Gates wealth, they are still fabulously wealthy. There is only so much you can buy with money.

What these guys are after is power and control, and to change the world into their image, likely an image reached by consensus at Bitburg or Davros with the other .001%

The money is nice, but at this stage I do not believe it is the reason behind any of this. Think "Georgia Guidestones" (even if this probably a private effort by Ted Turner to show his enthusiasm for the Davros project) and you get a clearer picture of what is really going on...

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:30 | 5367033 JohnFrodo
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The great game never ends. And the citzens will always be drones, and how much worse will it be with eleecttronics?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:29 | 5367034 Moonrajah
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Uh-oh, looks like Soros fell off the Tribe's (tm) bandwagon and is not in the loop anymore.

His crying wolf sounds so outdated, so helplessly neocon propaganda, and so Paulsonesque (tanks in the streets) that you can almost physically feel the despair dripping from his rotting mind.

He should just admit that the ideology that helped create precursors to the One World Government (MSM, NATO, EU and other super-national authorities) is collapsing from within and taking all the believers with it. What was once a set of practical and pragmatic ideas turned into flase hollowed-out ideas of exporting democracy, exporting a one-world view to foreign cultures (tolerancy instead of defining morals, LGBT which turned out to be a witch hunt for people that want none of that - just ask the French, and free immigration for all which rightly so led to Brevik and similar notions), and non-rule of international law (yup, Kosovo, Libiya and Syria where Obama is chest-thumping himself that he don't need no steeenkin' UN resolution or Congress approval to happily bomb away another sovereing's territory).

But nations and people are realizing that this is all a con-game. They are also realizing that the con-man's shadow is way bigger that the actual con-man himself. And they are starting to make independent moves. Small ones at first, testing the waters so to speak. And the con-man sees this. Unfortunately the con-man has spread his resources too thin, because otherwise he can't control the whole block, and he can't answer those numerous little stings. So he picked a target - the most brazen new kid on the block, Russia. But his strategy - to press-down on Russia with the help and at the cost of his close minion by the name of Europe - is breaking down. Europe has quite a number of good side-deals with Russia going on. Also after a few harsh words for Europe, Russia retaliated with words of it's own and also took some of those profitable deals and started doing those with the 'nerds' (from the point of view of US) - Brazil, India, Iran - and of course the juciest bits will go to China - the kid that is almost as big as Russia. So Europe, rubbing it's cold runny nose is doing a Charlie Brown, thinking: Why is everybody always picking on me? 

And then comes the rotted fuck of cadaver by the name of Soros and starts beating the war drum, saying that Europe has gotta find 20 billion and give it to a little thevious gypsy guy Ukie, because they should be friends and stuff. Because unlike the big bad bully Russia this Ukie guy shares the same values as Europe, and if he got syphylis and gonorrhea - well, it's your job, Europe, to help him out.

And the most disgusting part is that a number of European actors posing as politicians may actually agree with him.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 12:59 | 5367923 Monty Burns
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+100

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:32 | 5367042 Save_America1st
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OT, but Nelson Bunker Hunt has died.  Don't worry, bro...we'll keep on stackin' that phyzz silver for ya!!!  Those fiat bankster scumbags are on the ropes.

Silver-Market Manipulator Nelson Bunker Hunt Dies At 88; Two Traders Look Back

http://www.kitco.com/news/2014-10-22/Silver-Market-Manipulator-Nelson-Bunker-Hunt-Dies-At-88-Two-Traders-Look-Back.html

And this from ZeroHedge on Hunt back in 2011:

Silverfinger - The True Story Of Nelson Bunker Hunt:

Over 30 years ago, a man by the name of Nelson Bunker Hunt hatched the perfect plan: protect his inherited wealth (which then was one of the largest legacy fortunes in the world) from the inflationary destruction of "paper" assets by converting his assets into silver, and in the process cover the silver market, and send the price of silver to an inflation adjusted price of over $140 (nearly three times higher than the nearly record nominal silver price hit last week). Understandably, Hunt's name has appeared very often in the popular media in recent months, since after all it was the "Hunt" price that the May 1 silver smackdown (which will most certainly never be investigated) that sent silver from $48 to $42 in seconds that was being protected by the paper cartel. Yet just who is Nelson Bunker Hunt? And how did he cover the silver market when did? What exactly did he do, and is someone doing a comparable silver cornering right now? And, most importantly, why? The answers, all of which are provided in this September 1980 Playboy article reprint, will surprise and astound many, primarily due to the myriad parallels between the world of the 1970s and our own.

What follows is one man's attempt to escape from the "system."

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/silverfinger-true-story-nelson-bunker-hunt


 

 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:32 | 5367043 Fix It Again Timmy
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George Soros speaks - Pfffft!  Or was that a fart?...

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:34 | 5367048 kowalli
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If  Soros pissed off than we are doing right thing.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:35 | 5367056 Latitude25
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"the European Union and its principles of governance"

And what are those principles? fascism? Let's see what Nigel Farage has to say about that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hHiXXdtCL4

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:38 | 5367063 shovelhead
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Fuck's sake.

RUSSIAN TANKS ROLLING THROUGH POLAND!!!

20 BILLION OR  ELSE.

Will this asshat just please DIE?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:38 | 5367064 Bioscale
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George, you old fuckhead, you want war?

You know, your old friends in Hungary tell you FUCK YOU!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:39 | 5367066 css1971
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Translation: Soros is long. Ooops.

 

As a direct Russian gas user in Berlin, i'm going to be migrating away to solar + lots of insulation. But this is expensive. It'll take some time; years and it only makes any sense at all if I also use the electricity produced to power a vehicle as well. The break even point drops from 20+ years to about 7.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:39 | 5367068 zoltalar
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George Soros - what a serpent! Together with his buddies from Skull and Bones club (John Kerry, Bush, etc) they are spreading panic, fear to implement NWO. Never gonna happen!

 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:40 | 5367075 Son of Captain Nemo
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"All available resources ought to be put to work in the war effort even if that involves running up budget deficits"...

War effort???...

What George Soros says truthfully and what was already made apparent with the coup in February in Ukraine that the President and Congress will never say!!!...

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:40 | 5367076 jtg
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I wish the old fascist Soros would just expire, bastard that he is.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:43 | 5367086 IridiumRebel
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"Contrary to some widely circulated accounts, the resistance on the Maidan was led by the cream of civil society: young people, many of whom had studied abroad and refused to join either government or business on their return because they found both of them repugnant. (Nationalists and anti-Semitic extremists made up only a minority of the anti-Yanukovych protesters.) They are the leaders of the new Ukraine and they are adamantly opposed to a return of the “old Ukraine,” with its endemic corruption and ineffective government."

 

Who writes this shit? They are fucking Nazis. It is well documented with pictures all over the place of them doing Nazi Fascist shit.

FUCK THIS GUY!


Thu, 10/23/2014 - 12:52 | 5367888 Monty Burns
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You have it utterly wrong.  Those guys giving the Nazi salutes were either street muscle or agents provocateur. Always ask cui bono?  The President, PM, Governors of the major regions and the Director of the Central Bank are all Jewish. As was V. Nuland who kicked it all off. And they make up less than 00.2% of the population. Don't buy the propaganda.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:42 | 5367089 Kina
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Soros is going to burn in hell for all eternity....a thousand times over

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:44 | 5367094 THE DORK OF CORK
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Not a fan of the old style nation state that Russia now represents but if I had a choice...............

 

Would you want to live in the euro market state ?

A creature of Soros and others.

 

We all now know what the euro has done to our societies.

Russia is a bad example for us euro roboten.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:51 | 5367119 general ambivalent
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Sanctuary For All Community

For All Those Arrive Survive

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:53 | 5367128 JenkinsLane
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When this scumbag finally dies it will be a good day for mankind.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:57 | 5367137 casfoto
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The big money changers are leading the pack. Spros and the Rothchilds are ready to rearm the west, the east, the world. Lets see who else comes out with their prognosis....Carlyle group....Blackrock?? Money money money. They have ruined our money and our country and now they are ready to ruin the world so that they can become RICHER. Screw them.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:07 | 5367142 escapeefromOZ
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Somebody  should put a bounty on his head . Soros has been around for too long . Too many colored revolutions too many coup d'etat . People get bumped off for much less , How about him ? 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:57 | 5367146 Anarchy 99
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fucking Zio mask of death, PLEASE die already.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:00 | 5367147 The Count
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For those who did not know...the jewish bankers financed Hitler for the longest time and the west...nothing has changed. Just like

with elections here where the big guys donate to both candidates. Almost topples the UK with his currency speculation and then preaches social justice.

Soros is a cancer upon society.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:58 | 5367150 viator
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Putin evicted Soros and his merry band of NGOs from Russia. No wonder Soros is POd.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:59 | 5367157 Moccasin
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Soros war, he would look good in the Azov battalion with NAZI regalia marching on Donetsk with AK47 in hand, the Novorossians would be happy to put a bullet in his head. In Soros's war, people lose and the oligarchs win, no thanks. 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:00 | 5367160 pros
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Remember that Hungary, where Soros is from, fought on the side of Nazi Germany in WWII, and was punished severly by the Russians ("Soviets") for that mistake. Hungarians hate (and fear) the Russians to the bone.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:01 | 5367161 escapeefromOZ
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quote " It is based on the use of force that manifests itself in repression at home and aggression abroad, as opposed to the rule of law. " 

 But that is what the west is doing not Russia ! Soros still lives in 1960 !

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:07 | 5367171 Son of Captain Nemo
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"It is high time for the members of the European Union to wake up and behave as countries indirectly at war"..

Is this kind of the precursor for what happened when this got read by the same folks that Georgy Porgy works with?...

9/11 like event in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... !

Cause there is no fucking way in Satan's burning cave that these fuckers are going to go to war with Russia without a really colossal event as foretold on Fox and CNN by this guy numerous times within the past two years!

Can't wait to find out how "The Dick" as George's "bag man" is going to pull off blaming Russia for an ISIS/ISIL/Khorasan/Al Nusra/FSA/Al-Qaeda style attack!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:44 | 5367320 psychobilly
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Sadly, it seems inevitable that they'll get desperate enough at some point to go forward with another one of their big-time heinous scams.  The kind that get the herd panicked and stampeding in the "right" direction.  These people really are monsters.  They don't care one whit about your average jew or gentile.  They've shown historically that they're literally willing to throw millions of corpses into a bonfire of their own creation to get what they want.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:59 | 5367406 Anusocracy
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What they want is control.

Everything flows from that.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 12:29 | 5367548 psychobilly
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All humans want a degree of control over their environments, but some of our species seem to take it to extremes that demonstrate a total lack of empathy.  Perhaps there is a genetic component to all this as well?

For example, they recently found a gene that predisposes Ashkenazi Jews to mental illnesses such as schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder and manic depression. 

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.560128

I looked for any scientific data on a genetic predisposition for antisocial personality disorder or psychopathy but came up empty.  That's the next thing they ought to be looking for.

Not that psychopathy is unique to Ashkenazi Jews, but what happens when you combine a genetic predisposition for high(er) intelligence with a predisposition for mental illnesses characterized by breaks from reality, persecution complexes and episodes of mania?

I found this video of a Jewish woman discussing "Psychopathy Vis-aVis Jews":

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xur28w_psychopathy-vis-a-vis-jews-i-iii-the-jewish-family_lifestyle

Three parts and I've just started part one where she starts off talking about psychopathy "within the Jewish family" and admitting to coming from a family of Jewish psychopaths (due to cousin marriage) and narcissists (which she characterizes as failed predators).  Have no idea what she's on about but I'm going to give it a go.  So far really compelling stuff.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 12:44 | 5367846 Monty Burns
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For what it's worth I think that Jews' utter and total inability to accept even the slightest smidgen of blame for their historical problems to be borderline psychotic. Not only that but any attempt at nuance is howled down as anti-Semitic and racist.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 13:14 | 5367864 psychobilly
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In part two of the videos above she gets into Jewish Rabbinnical families and dynasties where you had centuries of interbreeding where cousins were marrying cousins to select for high intelligence, which unfortunately -- for the world, including  non-psychopathic and non-narcissistic jews -- came with the unpleasant side affect of a genetic predisposition for narcissism and even psychopathy.  Lucky us.

She also states that some of these psychopaths gained decision making authority within ancient Rabbinnical hierarchies, which is reflected in certain passages in the Talmud.

That would also help explain some of the past scientifically fraudlent Jewish "scholarship" in the social and political (pseudo) sciences that has been inflicted on the world and why Jewish scholars have been so resistant in the social (pseudo) sciences (e.g., anthropology) towards genetic studies that focus on race.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 13:04 | 5367949 Herd Redirectio...
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Ponerology.

The study of the science of evil.  The author suggests socio/psychopathy can be inherited from the mother.  Which ethnicity traces its heritage through the female line again?

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