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"Why I Will Not Submit To Medical Martial Law"
Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market.com,
One of the most dangerous philosophical contentions even amongst liberty movement activists is the conundrum of government force and prevention during times of imminent pandemic. All of us at one time or another have had this debate. If a legitimate viral threat existed and threatened to infect and kill millions of Americans, is it then acceptable for the government to step in, remove civil liberties, enforce quarantines, and stop people from spreading the disease? After all, during a viral event, the decisions of each individual can truly have a positive or negative effect on the rest of society, right? One out of control (or “lone wolf”) citizen/terrorist could reignite a biological firestorm, so, should we not turn to government and forgo certain freedoms in order to achieve the greater good for the greater number?
If the government in question was a proven and honorable institution, then I would say pro-Medical Martial Law arguments might have a leg to stand on. However, this is not the case. In my view, medical martial law is absolutely unacceptable under ANY circumstances, including Ebola, in light of the fact that our current government will be the predominant cause of viral outbreak. That is to say, you DO NOT turn to the government for help when the government is the cause of the problem.
The recent rise of global Ebola is slowly bringing the issue of medical martial law to the forefront of our culture. Charles Krauthammer at The Washington Post recently argued in favor of possible restrictions on individual and Constitutional liberties in the face of a viral pandemic threat.
The CDC now argues that in the case of people who may be potential carriers, or even in the case of people who refuse to undergo screenings, it has the legal authority to dissolve all constitutional protections and essentially imprison (quarantine) an American citizen for as long as they see fit to do so.
The Obama Administration is now using militant terminology in reference to Ebola response, including the formation of “Ebola SWAT Teams” for quick reaction to potential outbreak areas.
In typical socialist fashion, the nurses union 'National Nurses United' has called for Barack Obama to use “executive authority” to take control of all Ebola response protocols in hospitals across the country. Yet another perpetuation of the myth that more government power is the solution.
And finally, the Department of Defense has been tasked to create a military controlled “quick-strike team” to deal with Ebola within U.S. borders. This team will be under the command of none other than Northcom, apparently trampling the Posse Comitatus Act and setting the stage for the rationalized use of military personnel against U.S. citizens under the guise of pandemic prevention.
It should be clear to anyone with half a brain that medical martial law is being quietly prepared, and that the threat of such measures is not a paranoid conspiracy, but a very real possibility. It should also be noted that such provisions are not only the products of the Obama Administration. It was George W. Bush who first created laws intersecting with the World Health Organization's pandemic preparedness planning. These laws include the “overrule of existing legislation or (individual) human rights” in order to quell a viral outbreak, and were originally drafted around the potential of an influenza crisis.
It is this kind of executive overreach that has set precedence for states such as Connecticut to announce a tentative state of emergency with medical martial law restrictions.
I discussed in great detail why Ebola works in favor of establishment elites in my article 'An Ebola Outbreak Would Be Advantageous For Globalists'.
Understand that bureaucrats will come to you with promises of offering a helping hand, hoping that you are afraid enough to accept, but their intentions will not be compassionate. Rather, their intent will be to assert as much dominance over the public as possible during the chaos, and to erase any conception the people may have had in the past that they have inalienable rights.
But going beyond the hidden motives of tyrants, I think it is important to point out that the Center for Disease Control and the federal government in general has already lost all credibility in dealing with Ebola, and therefore, it has lost any authority it may have had in administrating a future response.
Ebola has been officially known to the CDC for over thirty years. Why has the CDC refused for three decades to produce proper care guidelines for hospitals? Medical staff in the U.S. didn't even receive guidelines when the outbreak in Western Africa was obviously progressing out of control.
Why did the CDC leave Thomas Duncan, the very first U.S. Ebola case, in the hands of the Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, without proper procedures in place to prevent further infection, and without a CDC team present? The CDC has an annual budget of nearly $7 billion. Where is all of this money going if not to stamp out such threats as Ebola?
The argument presented by the White House, the CDC, and even the World Bank, has been that stopping direct or indirect travel from nations with an Ebola outbreak would be “impractical”, and that such travel bans would somehow “make matters worse”. They have yet to produce a logical explanation as to how this makes sense, but what if we did not need to institute a travel ban? The CDC, with it's massive budget, could easily establish quarantine measures in infected countries. Anyone wishing to travel outside of these nations would be welcome to do so, as long as they voluntarily participate in quarantine procedures for a set number of days. No quarantine, no plane ticket. Where has the CDC response been in Western Africa?
Why not use minor and measured travel restriction in Africa today, instead of using unprecedented martial law in America tomorrow? It makes no sense, unless, of course, the plan is to allow Ebola to spread...
Why has the White House nominated Ron Klain, a man who knows absolutely NOTHING about Ebola or medical emergency strategies, as the new “Ebola Czar”?
Why has all discussion on Ebola prevention revolved around government measures rather than community measures? Why has all talk centered on what the government will do AFTER an outbreak occurs, rather than on what can be done to prevent an outbreak in the first place?
The reality is that the federal government does not have any treatments for Ebola that are outside of the knowledge and capabilities of the average medically trained citizen. Meaning, the government and the CDC are NOT needed for a community to handle an Ebola outbreak, if that community is given proper guidelines and strategies in advance. Treatment for Ebola, at least in first world nations, consists primarily of regimented transfusions. These transfusions are a mixture of isotonic saline, electrolytes, and plasma, designed to keep the body supported until it's immune system can build up a proper defense to the virus. Natural and homeopathic methods can also boost immune system functions making the body resistant to the virus before it is ever contracted. The most effective of all treatments appears to be the transfusion of blood from a recovering patient with anti-bodies into a newly sick patient. This is likely the reason for the quick recovery of infected doctors like Kent Brantly.
The CDC would never be able to coherently organize a large scale program of transfusion initiatives, even if it wanted to. Most hospitals around the country have no isolation wards able to handle even a minor Ebola outbreak. The hospitals that do have facilities are limited to less than a dozen beds. According to the medical workers I have spoken with, most hospitals require a minimum of around 50 health professionals to deal with a single Ebola patient. In the event of an outbreak larger than a few people per state, the CDC and local hospitals are simply not equipped to react to the problem. Blood transfusions from recovering donors would be few and far between, unless organized by local citizens working under their own directives.
Ironically, it was the Bush Administration's own report in 2006 on the possibility of bird flu pandemic that admitted the government is completely unequipped to handle an outbreak of moderate size. The report stated that “all sources of external aid may be compromised during a pandemic,” and that "local communities will have to address the medical and non-medical effects of the pandemic with available resources." Little has changed in the federal government's pandemic preparations since the report was written.
This leaves individual communities to either prepare for the worst, or die off while waiting for the government to save them. Self isolation and self treatment are the only practical options.
The greatest danger to American citizens is, in fact, not the Ebola virus, but government reactions to the Ebola virus. Already, several medical outfits around the world are suddenly interested in producing an Ebola vaccination when no one seemed very interested before. This might sound like good news, until you learn the terrible history of modern vaccinations.
Pharmaceutical company Merck was caught red handed faking vaccine efficacy data. Merck's Gardisil was found to contain DNA fragments of human papillomavirus.
Glaxosmithkline, a major vaccine producer, has been caught repeatedly attempting to bribe doctors and health professionals into promoting their products or outright lying about their effectiveness. Glaxo was caught producing rotavirus vaccinations tainted with a swine virus in 2010. Glaxo has been caught producing vaccines tainted with bacteria and endotoxins.
It is important to point out that Glaxo is also spearheading an Ebola vaccine initiative.
U.S. company Baxter produced a flu vaccination in Austria tainted with both avian flu and swine flu. The mixture just happened to be randomly tested on a group of ferrets by a lab in the Czech Republic. The test animals died. The exposure of this “mix up” was quietly swept under the rug by Baxter and the mainstream media, but reports indicate that if the vaccine had been used on the general population, a terrible pandemic would have erupted.
Beyond the fact that vaccinations have a tendency to cripple our natural immune system and infect patients with the very disease they are meant to prevent, none of these existing companies can be trusted to produce a vaccine that is safe even by traditional pharmaceutical standards (which are very low). If the CDC and the federal government trigger a medical martial law scenario, they will most likely include forced vaccination of the population to maintain “herd immunity”. The bottom line? The use of such vaccines will be a death sentence for many, a death more certain than the contraction of Ebola. In my opinion, Ebola vaccination should be avoided at all costs by the American populace.
I can think of no rationale for government involvement in the treatment of an Ebola outbreak. If it is not pure incompetence on their part that has exacerbated the threat, then even worse, it is a deliberate program of genocide. In either case, no military or CDC “strike teams” should be allowed free reign in our neighborhoods, towns, counties, or states. DHS and FEMA Community Emergency Response Teams (CERT) are also a no go, given FEMA's track record of dismal disaster response. They CANNOT be allowed to take control of our communities.
The only way for Americans to survive such an event is to cut out government entirely and establish their own medical strategies, as organizations like the Oath Keepers Community Preparedness Teams (CPT) are doing.
If someone wants to voluntarily go to the CDC or FEMA for assistance, then they should be allowed to take that risk. However, medical martial law over all of us in the name of the “greater good” should not be tolerated. The government has proven beyond a doubt that it is not qualified to handle a viral crisis scenario, let alone determine what the “greater good” actually is. I can't speak for the whole of the Liberty Movement, but as for myself, if a group of hazmat suited thugs decides to chase me down with a syringe, I am relatively certain none of them will live through the encounter.
Will I be accused of aiding the spread of Ebola because of my non-compliance? Of course. Do I care? Not so much. Each individual American will have to make their own decision on this matter in due course. Is it better to conform and risk annihilation at the hands of an ignorant and/or corrupt government, or, to fight back and be labeled a bio-terrorist? With the clear lack of tangible government preventions for outbreak in the U.S., you'll probably get your chance to find out soon enough.
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If a legitimate viral threat existed and threatened to infect and kill millions of Americans, is it then acceptable for the government to step in, remove civil liberties, enforce quarantines, and stop people from spreading the disease?
Not if your gubmint is the one who released it and by "coincidence" also has the damn patent on it.....
The 'patent' will allow them to own you
If your blood is infected .
you ll lose the rights to your body .
Forced blood draws & medical treatments
Ate already happening throughout the U.S.
Whoa. They own your 'lifeblood.' Creepy.
They'll do what they want & already have without consent .
If it's not our bodies , it's our environment , our finances .
They implement their plan before we even know what's
Happening . Lots are caught off guard & are slaughtered for it .
Martial law is something Obola is itching to implement!
I am not sure even the JCS are that dumb.
Martial law is nothing more than a legal euphemism for war.
It wouldn't take very many viral videos of Americans dispatching something far more brutal and ugly than "ISIS justice" to the wives, children and parents of those in uniform before the military faces a crisis of discipline, and unholy forces that cannot be contained are unleashed.
Only a raving madman, or a someone with the diminished intellectual capacity of child could be that foolish.
Martial law has been imposed on many occasions throughout history. The citizens suck it up, generally... unless the imposers are an invading force. But that wouldn't be the case here in the West, would it? Cuz the gubermint iz us!
It's that perception changing (which there is plenty of statistically relevant evidence of) that worries me. Too many people are being forced to "eat their cake".
I disagree. They are not us.
Statist authority worshipping ignorant fucksticks is not 'us'.
They're numerous both amongst the government and amongst the populace I admit.
The statists will get their come-uppance.
I hope I live to see it.
those examples through history were not from systems where such concepts of personal liberty and contitutional restraints were part of the living history. as diminished as those concepts have become, they are still there, under the surface. martial law here will not be succesful on a broad basis. therefore their plan is incremental and is being tested (Boston and now medical). there have been some limited pushback.
Y'all need to learn this
I refuse to be governed or lorded over by you.
I withdraw my consent.
PERIOD.
EDIT: I know it sounds simple and naive ....
and the sheer, wondrous beauty of it is ....
YES IT IS just that simple !!
You have that power.
They can try to come after my 'lifeblood' all they want, but just to give a heads-up, I'll be targeting my bloody, diarrhea-launching ass at every banker and politician I can find if I get Ebola'd.
I just finished reading Next by Crichton.
Not one of his better efforts.
Crichton had a talent, but all of his stuff was begging to be a movie. It has its limitations.
That's a bit much since they would then be liable for all damage done.
I never thought of that. Just like Monsanto sues farmers, whose crops are inadvertently contaminated and ruined by Monsanto's genetically modified death food, for patent infringement; the government could sue people who inadvertently get contaminated by their bio-engineered and patented disease.
In a side note: If I see high level government officials and high level bankers and media business personnel dying from Obola, then I "might" take it seriously. Until then, it just looks too much like a psy op planned by retards.
you been eating their death food, your words not mine, for 20 years.
Quit being so fucking stupid. Biotech is here to stay. It will feed people.
My position is that all vaccines should be voluntary, and subject to informed consent. Any other policy would be unethical.
The complete lack of response of the FDA to discovery of L1 gene fragments in the Gardasil vaccine is problematic (FDA web site, response letter). This is especially because peer-reviewed research suggests these gene fragments might have a connection to adverse clinical effects.
Peer-reviewed data has shown the presence Gardasil L1 gene fragments (HPV DNA bound to aluminum adjuvant) in autopsy tissues from a deceased teenage girl shortly after completion of the Merck Gardasil vaccine series (Lee, 2012).
This Gardasil DNA contamination event highlights the importance of informed consent. Neither the information on Gardasil HPV DNA contamination nor on the potential DNA persistence in human tissue were disclosed to patients and doctors.
DNA genes in Gardasil were not listed in the Merck patent, were not listed on the Gardasil product label, nor were evaluated by the FDA prior to medical approval. After discovery of this contamination, the FDA did not re-evaluate the safety of the product.
FDA Response Letter: Presence of DNA Fragments in Gardasil Expected, "No Safety Risk"
http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/ucm2... (FDA response letter)
Detection of HPV L1 Gene Fragments in Postmortem Blood and Spleen after Gardasil Vaccination (Lee, 2012)
http://www.scirp.org/journal/paperdownload.aspx?paperid=25840
If the vaccine is effective, then those vaccinated face no threat from unvaccianted individuals. If it is ineffective, then it is unnecessary for anyone. As for the so called "herd immunity" argument, as I understand it, it causes pandemics to burn out faster as they run into a wall of vaccinated people. Still this argument boils down to efficacy of the vaccine. If it is effective, the pandemic will burn out, leaving only the vaccinated standing. Forced vacciantion relies on the idea that unvaccinated people do not and cannot control their own bodies not for the good of themselves, but for the good of the collective.
On that note, it is interesting that this will be the first big test of Obamacare. He who pays the piper calls the tune...roll up your sleeve, please.
nice...
ECONOMIC THREAT LEVEL
Harmonious. :)
Content. ;)
Indifferent. :-
Discontent. :/
Almost fucked. :( --------- YOU ARE HERE --------
Totally fucked. :0
You had the flag on the helicopter correct....this time...meh!
the .gov controlls the borders and own plenty of property
.
they can help themselves
Colloidal Silver... and no, I will not submit.
Selenium.
Liposomal Vitamin C. And it should be easy for us stackers to make since we like our metals all shiny after a bath in our ultrasonic cleaners.
How to make it: 30 grams powdered ascorbic acid. Dissolve in 200 ml water. 37 grams lecithin granules. Dissolve in 400 ml water (let it sit for a couple hours; it doesn't dissolve easily). Mix both together in a blender for 1 minute. Then pour into an ultrasonic cleaner and mix for 30 minutes, with stirring using a plastic spoon. This encapsulates the ascorbic acid in the fatty lecithin liposomes, which results in almost full absorption by the body. (Regular ascorbic acid is usually only about 17% absorbed, and taking too much at one time can really roach your bowels. Not a problem with liposomal C.) Store in a glass jar in the fridge. Take a shot glass every morning on an empty stomach as a preventative measure, or a shot glass every hour if feeling something coming on. More if Ebola is eating your innards.
colloidal silver, yup, for the right circumstances.
its known to kill bacteria by engaging the bacterial cell wall and poisioning it. that's why the silver must be in the form of the numerously dispersed nano sized colloid (simple to understand, google it)
most virus do not have cell walls, but protein jackets with active binding sites. they do not have active exchange with their environment until latched onto a target protein, at which point they inject the replication RNA / DNA into the cell. silver colloids, AFAIK, will not engage any viral active binding sites, and therefore the virus will not be harmed or prevented from latching onto the targeted cell protein.
i'm betting somebody here can elaborate further...
and no, i will not submit either.
"Colloidal Silver"
Which won't help with Viral infections like Ebola. At best it can help treat secondary bacteria infections.
There really is no cure for Ebola. The best option is to wash your hands as often as possible and avoid public places.
Immune System from the 50/60's when we swam in sewers and rode in the back of pick ups and drank our water out of whatever was handy.
Not buying a word of this shit but am happily trying to spread the fear.
You younger people probably are pretty fucked. You've been too coddled since the 80's. You haven't really ever gotten deathbed sick before (try being six years old and being wheeled through an Air Force Hospital filled with Viet Nam Vets with burns and missing shit, and half a head...and having them all concerned for you)
You have 'drama', your parents and grandparents had life. We've done this shit. Multiple times (polio, measles, chicken pox, mumps, whooping cough..we were puposefully exposed to all this shit by our own parents!)... We're still here.
You are definitely fucked!
I was born in 1980, and I have climbed mountains in Afghanistan. Keep your mouth shut hill billy.
No need to use a term of honor as an insult, city boy.
"a Hill-Billie is a free and untrammeled white citizen of Alabama, who lives in the hills, has no means to speak of, dresses as he can, talks as he pleases, drinks whiskey when he gets it, and fires off his revolver as the fancy takes him. “Hillbillies” are often considered independent and self-reliant individuals that resist the modernization of society. "
Yeah, I know that guy. Urban metrosexuals do not qualify and most certainly not wanted in hillbillyland.
Signed,
Hillbilly descended from long lines of hillbillies.
PS --Keep their candy asses in the city where they're protected by all the rules, regulations, and gun toting thuga.
Me, I'll smoke a cigarrete where ever I please, fire my revolver whenever the fancy strikes me, and fuck statist rules.
And I avoid the clusters of metrosexuals/gays/minorities/authorityworshippers that we call 'cities' like the ebola.
Hell on earth to a man that values liberty.
An effective government official is an unemployed government official. There is no governmental action which does not exacerbate that which it seeks to resolve.
Love your insight Oldwood.
Which is why they can't kill the farmers, the scores of engineers of different schools, etc, yet folks pontificate they are looking to kill us all.
Seriously, modern lifestyle is defined by flushing shitters, electricity, cheap transportation, and a fridge always full of food. Everything else is fashion that comes and goes on a few year periodicity.
Never assume malice where incompetence will suffice. And you sir, hit the nail on the head as far as that goes.
Hope you made it out of CA.
Regards,
Cooter
An effective government official is an unemployed government official.
I would go one up with deceased gov't official: an unemployeed still collects gov't benefits, and there is alwasy the risk they will find another gov't job to do even more damage.
An effective government official is one that serves as fertiizer for daisies, grass and other shit. They have no other purpose while alive. Reduce global warming, remove a government official from the food chain...just eliminate them enmass. Once the three to four million g-officials, and their former 'officials' such as Al Gore are gone, global whateverthefuckitistoday simply disappears and we're no longer threatened by bullshit.
The little people will be forced into quarantine at gunpoint to protect the Elysium class.
Elysium - been there, saw that.
i'm not sure i've ever been so infuriated by a movie. fucking walking talking advert for ebolacare, by that statist idiot savant matt damon.
i hope south park does another one on him - just a rich vein of send up material.
Actually don't watch much from Whorywood, or TV. anymore but did catch that movie after the wife left the TV on and went to bed.
You need to rethink what you saw. If anything, that movie was a Tea Party, Anarchist, kill them all, message plain as day
I'm not a fan of, who was he, Matt Damn...But the previous movies I've seen him in were all brainless comedies...Seems like he was an angel in a couple of them and he did one with Robin Williams where he totally rips the fuck out of the NSA.
He's an actor, he's unimportant and has nothing to say on anything. The script writers, however...
whorywood, check.
damon? you must be thinking of somebody else. bourne identity, etc? runs his mouth in support of progressive statist agenda every chance he gets - smart guy, but stupit...
elysium? elitist to the core, and movie ended with the big egalitarian hospital ships coming to rescue everybody. obolacare.
Just before the series cancelation, Revolution brought this into its theme:
A fraudulent (hijacked) US Administration planned to use Bio weapons to regain control over the entire US, after it broke into regions (following a 15 year power blackout and its subsequent restoration).
Power hungry sociopaths with global ambitions know no limits, unless a bigger force imposes limits on them. Even then they will seek to regain power by any means of subterfuge and deceit possible. People like that are like defeated vampires. You can't just "defeat" them. You have to send them back to their Maker in hell.
This is an interesting problem. Unless you you are willing to fight the authorities to the death, you will be arrested, and lose any control over the contact you have with others. Wouldn't this increase the likelihood of infection?
Fight to the death it is! I guess.
This is just one of many things the government has done in the past few years where the game theory behind it turns it into an all-or-nothing deathmatch. They love power but really don't think things through very well, and it sets the stage for arab-spring type uprisings. Ferguson was barely a taste of what could happen if they do something sufficiently retarded to have no moral high ground on a large enough scale.
We'll they did themselves a disservice by promising the world all is well should this spiral out of control..
Quite a leap from : allowing all flights from w. Africa and all is well -- to
Martial law, shelter in place, subjects
It might be time to rob a bank and tour the world surfing.
"Ferguson was barely a taste of what could happen if they do something sufficiently retarded to have no moral high ground on a large enough scale."
You mean like allowing a hemmorrhagic virus into the country instead of implementing cordon sanitaire?
If there is/was any truth to that, it would never be allowed to see the light of day... the media would never publish nor be allowed to publish it anyways.
Why would anyone need to publish it? .gov said it's all good, and if this thing gets out I don't need a talking head to tell me that those who's job it was to nip this thing -on my dime- have failed. If those same cocksuckers then proceed with martial law then I am duty bound to disregard their efforts. That isn't to say I will go typhoid Mary on my neighbors, but I will not abide a .gov that has gone rogue. Brandon's big take-away is this: handle it locally, get your people together, get them trained, and quit waiting for others to tell you what to do. Liberty, in the most basic sense, is action on the personal level.
At the point .gov annouces we're all going camping, the choices become clear. Submit to tyranny and (at best) bungling incompetence in the face of a lethal contagious virus, or turn your shelter into Fort Apache, and die hard if they choose to come and bang it out with you. I've got the Cypress Hill set up to the motion sensor. We'll all be singin' along to 'Aint goin out like that' when they cross the perimeter.
Sadly, I suspect that if martial law were declared a large portion would enjoy the vacation, and much different Cypress Hill songs will be playing in the pseudo frat houses of locked down America.
Remember, you heard it here first - ZH says the world is ending, and Ebola is the cause. Better be sure, because if you fuckers are still alive and kicking by the end of November... well, it just means that everything ZH said is a fucking pile of shit.
ZH should stick to fucking with HFT and the Fed. Ebola? Not so much.
November is too early . Itl only be ramping up by then.
Try Feb . Or May .
do the african numbers still show exponential rate of growth?
in similar news, guessing the recent near panic was a trial balloon to gauge public reaction and pliability. i think they're wanting to know the half-life of the public panic attention span. appears ebola is competing with renee z's face... just... wow....
not thinking the public did so well - it had me on the fence as to whether is was a possible psy-op or real.
at least loads of ZHers knew there was a distinct possibility it was a shot for effect - this time.
i read the book "The Hot Zone" years ago, and they only handled these filovirus (ebola, marburg, lassa) in level 4 containment. i kept saying to the wife "if this is really an outbreak, their response is literally insane"
The work of government is to highlight potentially gruesome threats while also promoting calm. Be it Ebola or the markets, the threats are obvious yet THEY demonstrate their power and control. What have we learned just in the last week? The markets can fall, fear rampant, and then poof....confidence returns from the belief that "government" will not let it fail. Of course they are almost single handedly creating the instability and most know it yet we all recognize their power to control. Ebola has done the same...deadly virus, super containment procedures, yet...nothing to fear.
In cases of extreme stress people will surrender their liberties to a known predator if they believe that somehow they will survive. This is the face of today's confidence. Nothing new. Just bigger.
Who knows, but a potential outbreak in a city of 8+ Million and the Ponzi capital of the World is news that could impact the casino (er...markets).
What if the 'vaccine' is released from the air?
Like crop dusting a buncha humans. Now that's some serious bioterra right there.
They do it with food too . Grown vaccines on bananas , etc.
GMOs modifies & affect gene expression
They do it with food too . Grown vaccines on bananas , etc.
GMOs modifies & affect gene expression
What do you think is in all the chemtrails? Vitamins?
Minerals!
Vitamin Aluminum
LOL!
Brawndo! Its what your body needs!
Ask the people in St. Louis and Corpus Christi if they think it could happen again:
"Zinc and Cadmium radioactive particles were sprayed inside and around a housing complex without the consent of its inhabitants. Most of the people living there, Ms. Taylor says, were under the age of 12 years of age. The experiments were not limited to St. Louis. They were done in Corpus Christi, Texas and other cities around the country. In Texas, the Army used planes to spray the chemicals over the city under the excuse that a new system to generate a smokescreen was being tested to protect the people from a possible Russian attack."
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/us-sociologist-documents-army-experiments...
Yet another Doctor in full gear armed with knowledge gets infected?
Its to each of our own benefit to catch Ebola as soon as possible. Right now you are likely assured of top line care while becoming a celebrity. Six months from now you will likely be lucky if they give you an aspirin and send you home. Of course there is always the risk of being "disappeared". http://www.infowars.com/medical-professional-health-authorities-covering...
your avatar,,,"40 pixels wtf tyler" ...great!
It is an interestiing ethical question. I would agree to restrictions if I thought the government was actually competent and had my best interests at heart. As you can see by the appointment of the political hack Ebola czar, Klain that they are neither.
I nearly vomited blood and bled from my eyes after seeing who and what Obama appointed to head up the task force.
The newly appointed Czar will make it 'legal' to restrict your movement / forcibly extract & quarantine you . Draw your blood & medicate without your consent
There is no Ebola. It's about Martial Law, not Medical Martial Law.
Don't be a dummy, don't believe the propaganda. Remember the swine flu bullshit in '09? It was all lies.
When was the last time the government told you things that weren't lies?
"Suspending rights?" No thank you.
To my fellow at ZHers,
We need to keep each other informed about what we see in each of our home cities,
No bullshit or hysteria but facts.
Did you see an unusual police presence or military vehicles on roads?
I am going to need about 8 hours to pack “it” all in the trailer and head to that spot we have “improved” in the country. Really only 6 hours but I allotted extra time to argue with the old lady about not taking her mom and her collection of Antique Staffordshire Figurines
Can you do me a solid?
Regards DD
If I come on here and announce that I'm falling trees across the road that leads to my house, you will know that the shit has hit the fan.
Is that really gonna stop any red neck with a truck, a chain saw, and a logging chain?
Regards,
Cooter
Nothing will stop a determined asshole from gaining access. But, several large trees can force someone to look for an easier target, or at least gain you some time to mount a defense or GTFO. Just my opinion.
Couple of angry hornets (flying at a speed of ~2600 feet per second) would likely dampen the enthusiasm of anyone trying to access the road.
Exactly. It's a real PITA to clear a road while subject to withering gunfire. The hope is that they realize it and just keep moving. At the very least, it will buy a little time.
Seriously guys?
We used to SHOOT hornet (etc) nests off tree limbs (whilst running trots) ... and come back an hour later and fish for bait. Best. Bait. Fishing. Ever. Perch loved that shit while it was floating in the water.
Fools. The lot of you.
Regards,
Cooter
NO, but it will sure stop the 300 lb sister in law !!!
/I mean if the tree is big enuff...
If you know how to do it right yes it will stop light armored vehicles, the key is leaving the trunks about half attached and crossing the felled trees as they fall they make an effective block. Tough to clear under small arms fire.
A cat out in my neck has a sign that is plainly visible only if you slow down enough and look thru the gate, up at his place, that says: "if you can read this sign, you are in range". And I'm sure he means it :)
Take the Figurines or you won't be able to enjoy the sex if you happen to get it.
And you'll have more food and water that way too, versus a liability.
Buck up, move to AK, and start a new life. It ain't easy and most won't have the job skills or attitude to really make it. It isn't what you would expect at all. Luck is unfortunately a big factor.
Folks who have the "I can drive away from the shit" are making a serious miscalculation. This is like dieting; you have to change your lifestyle. It is not temporary (until after the storm passes)
Move to where droves of roving ass hats can't drive (and don't want to live). Then you might be safe.
Carve out a living there, get along with the neighbors, and enjoy what God gave us. You sure as fuck won't find that six hours from any typical population center.
Just my .02.
Regards,
Cooter
AK seems like a cool place, and I admire the independence of it's people, but I like some daylight in the winter and the longer growing season that I have here. I know my desert. I've lived here all my life, and can get along here.
Hopefully when this slow motion train wreck finally ends, I'll find a way to get up there to thwack a moose.
EV, get out a map and really look at AK. It is about 20% of the land mass of the US. It has three sets of climates. I live in a RAIN FORREST. The state has 750k people for the whole state. AK is an outlier in most categories of measure.
Home is home, can't argue that. Me, I like clean water, clean air, and not enough people to filth the land around us. If the govt is gonna whack us, well fuck, can't hide from that.
Oh, and I don't miss the sun. Not one bit.
Regards,
Cooter
Love AK but still waiting on our beloved climate change to warm the place up a bit. My old bones just can't take the cold.
ditto that. I couldn't take the cold. Nor mosquitos, nor bears eatin' my arse. Especially the cold. I saw the 'yukon men' shows. Hey, power to 'em.
AK sounds nice (coastal areas anyway, interior too fing cold) but it just postpones the inevitable, medical martial law would be the end of American economy, and when it dies it drags the world down with it.
Worst thing they can do is say ebolie is out of control, sheeple panic, think twice about interacting with anyone else, and economy slowly grinds to a halt.
If they're ready to kill the economy once and for all and bring America down, ok, that would do it.
But if they're not, then they better come up with some other type of martial law not disease related, or just forget the martial law thing.
I'm convinced any type of openly declared ML is the end of America. 3/4 of my life is behind me, I don't care to live in some communist shithole society constantly worried about being watched, so I would just end it like a close relative did, give me liberty or death, death is better than shithole communism.
And I don't give a fuck what any "god" thinks about it, if he/she/it has a problem with it then get off their lazy supernatual ass and stop all this shit. Put up or shut the fuck up.
Personally, I think urban areas are fucked. For a lot of reasons. I made a conscious decision years ago to get the fuck as far away as I could. Fuck this bug out shit. I moved out. I got a MOVE OUT plan for when shit hits the fan; I WONT BE THERE. And yes, there are risks due to being "remote". I will take 'em vs the hell an urban situation will become in about one week without supplies, food, water, electricity, etc.
As I have posted recently before (google "site:zerohedge.com crazycooter" for search results just off ZH with my avatar) the elite do NOT want to kill off their herd. I used the cattle rancher analogy; the rancher is rich because of his herd. And the world is full of elites. If a cull is required, then there is that, but the cull means TFSA, EBT monkeys, etc. Not the educated, work horse middle class. That is to say, you slaughter bulls and keep cows; there is a value preference. Borrowing from upthread, maybe ZH is a honey pot so they know which Americans (with some red blood left) to dispose of, but other than that, the current system suits the elites just fine. The current system can't FEMA your kids and expect you to work like a dog. If the ship really goes, down, they go down too.
Someone well read in history, with a contrary example, please share with sources. I would like to not feel so damn negative.
If Ebola gets legs, China and India are both in for hell on Earth. Africa is already fucked. This is the stuff cheap sci-fi/horror flicks aren't dark enough to touch. What do you think the mecca of raping people through financialization, Wall St, will look like when Ebola hits town? Think they are going to rake in commissions and have plenty of cash flow? It goes down in flames along with all the pensions, retirements, and savings. The rally cry will be "men to work the fields" and talks of "failed harvest". Food production will simply become a concern again when it hasn't for decades (at least in the US).
Is the ALL VOLUNTEER army really going to turn on its family? Seriously? Elite groups of military are one thing, but when the Nat Guard is supposed to gun down MeMaw in her home town, do you really think that is going to fly? There is an aspect to force few people think about. It is a simple exercise of logic and arithmetic. There are 300 million people in the US. How many "soldiers" are required to enforce the will of some overlord? 1 per 1000? 1 per 10? 1 per 10,000? Pick a ratio. Then decide where you will get all those willing, able bodied men to do the dirty work of the elite that is so commonly espoused on ZH. The math only works so long as most folks behave and go about their daily business. If things go south, population centers have to be encircled and left to burn themselves out. It really depends on whether the people want the force or do not; that is the deciding factor. That means it is 1 to 10,000 if the people want the force and it is 1 to 100 if they do not. Policy decisions.
There is one reality though; it either Ebola is or is not casually transmissible. You can't have a middle ground. If it is easily transmissible, it will likely prove impossible to contain, particularly when you involve animal hosts such as mosquitoes, rodents, or scavenging mammals (think un-disposed, tasty dead bodies - om nom nom). This is the worst possible outcome for humanity and is likely not bio-engineered. They just arnt' that crazy or stupid; they are just lazy, like to eat/drink well, and like to rape little girls. Not unlike the kings of old. If it is not easily transmissible, I question why docs are coming home with it, unless they are intentionally infected as a precursor to martial law/etc. Just enough to make it look scary, but transmissible enough to destroy major cities with POOR SANITATION and NO HEALTH CARE.
The only outcome that suits the elite is Martial Law and no real Ebola threat. If that happens, no American is really safe, because most Americans will not challenge or resist the direction leadership takes them; it is simple herd behavior. But they will cry when it is their throat and that is what barns are for ...
And as far as God goes, I see it every day. I am reminded, for all my years living in population centers, what we have done to that which we were given. Go find your self a space, where if you fly, like a bird, for 100s of miles, and see less people than when you left. My nearest population centers are 900 and 600 miles away. By boat or plane; no roads.
Going to bed ...
Regards,
Cooter
When I present these options to my wife, explaining that moving to the woods could save our lives, she tells me we are going to die.
I took twenty years before she would allow me to park a pickup truck in front of the house.
Pity the fuckers living on a third floor wood framed apartment, no way out of a kindling box.
Probably watched too many zombie films
some may be looking at this from the wrong direction. correct, the US is too large and populous (and armed) for a military to police and contain everything/everyone. i think the inverse will be what happens. designated "safe-zones" where the military will keep the serfs out. there will be some contaiment in the large cities, to keep the serfs bottled up for the cull. the cull will be organic, lack of energy/food/water/medical. rurals areas will go along as they always have, unless of course your land happens to be where they want to create a safe zone.
If ebola (or anything else, for that matter) actually gets to the point that the fabric of society starts to break down, good fucking luck stopping me from getting to a very remote location. They can't guard all of the exits under those circumstances, and I know some really out of the way obscure exits.
I'm thinking that I'm going to get a couple of 55 gallon drums to store fuel in.
THINKING? BROTHER EL...ITS TIME TO BE DOING....
Learn how to backfeed from a 240v generator. If SHTF to the point where power goes out, there'll probably be a lot gasoline/diesel left in tanks underground with no practical way of getting to it. If you want bang-for-the-buck on a 120v/240v generator, Champion has some that can take abuse. The pull cords suck balls though. Keep some 550 cord just in case.
I put a backup generator on my house and tied it to natural gas. I'm just not sure how vulnerable the gas lines are. I have done some research on wood gas, as I have a lot of timber on my property. Of course it will take a lot of wood to fire a 454 chevy.
Every hedge has a situational conditionality that defines its effectiveness. Its one thing to plan on economic hardship versus complete collapse.
Civil Servants have to kill you to save you. Poetic it came to New York City. Muppets take Manhatten.
PSA: Ebola stays in manjuice for up to 90 days. So if SF is still answering their rectal phones perhaps they'd consider getting ahead of this one and be prepared to close the bath houses this time around instead of being piously indifferent.
It would be irrational to not adhere to government policy with regard to
a medical emergency that called for 'medical martial law' throughout society. The crews of police that would arrest you are not educated in terms of the virus. They only know to do their jobs and they probably
think they are doing the right thing for society. In brief, it would be much more adaptive to submit to 'authority' and take your chances on survival
in a FEMA camp. One cannot survive in the woods/bush without knowledge of hunting & fishing, trapping, preservation of food overwinter et cetera.
The bottom line is survival IMHO. Running from the legislation will not increase the chances you have of survival if you are not already self sustaining and living off-the-grid. Lastly, one would need big game if one is living in a northern climate like CANADA. Protein source is required when one is living in sub zero temperatures in winter. So, in the long run of a martial law being imposed on society you would soon find that there is nowhere to hide or run to. And you sure as hell would not find anything to eat unless you packed a lunch for a few hundred days. Good luck, Brandon Smith.
If you expect anything but incompetence from the government when it comes to saving your life, I hope you are lucky. I've been accumulating the skills to survive out in BFE for a while now. I'm not off the grid, but I could go off rather quickly if it weren't for a few pesky laws that wouldn't be getting enforced in a SHTF event. I know that the government is incompetent, which is why I would bug-in, then wait until law enforcement is just starting to break down to bug-out.
What I want people to understand is that, in a real emergency like what we're talking about here, you'll be on your own in the long run. Even if this is a fake crisis, or is a real crisis, but it isn't really what it's cracked up to be, the ensuing panic by the sheep could be enough to cause real problems. Corralling and controlling 320 million panicky people is a monumental task that would crush our law enforcement agencies.
Yes, it'd be much easier to kill all of us off than it would be to warehoue us effectively.
Something to think about.
~DipshitMiddleClassWhiteKid
Sure, but then they'd be left with the survivors. The ones who are self sufficient. The ones who would be used to the prospect of death. But maybe not the ones who pull the oil from the ground, run the power plants, run the refineries, ship the shit from china, etc... Any oligarch who thinks like that is in for a rude surprise. The worse the breakdown of society, the more the power structures change. Those oligarchs have to eat, sleep and shit, just the same as us. They aren't magical unicorn fucking beasts. Just people who's bodies need to be relieved of their heads.
Riiight. Cuz the gubbmint is fuckin' awesome at everything they try to do. I wonder if the Jews thought like you when contemplating life in the ghetto. I wonder if the Armenians used your logic when they decided to turn in their guns.
Careful; I may fight back.
During the pandemic, where and how will the goobers feed us soylent green?
"Why I Will Not Submit To Medical Martial Law"
That headline alone should get this guy permanently on a terrorist watch list labeled as a lone wolf or sovereign citizen. But I don't expect he'll see any actual persecution any time soon for many reasons. Meanwhile...
Why hasn't someone like Rhodes, the guardian of the republic, filed legal challenges against the planned unlawful deployment of the military swat teams?
Is there anyone in any position in America not just in it for themselves or that support the globalist roll out?
If you think "legal challenges" will do anything to stop this shit-storm, you are either insanely delusional, or heavily medicated.
You don't ask the criminals to police themselves.
The courts would probably say that you don't have standing to sue unles one of those military swat teams raided you, and even if you got past the standing issue, there is a chance that the words "national security" would be uttered and the courts would unblinkingly accept it.
Standing has three elements:
1) Injury. The person bringing suit must have some form of injury, be it physical, financial, psychological, etc...
2) Causality. It has to be possible for the Plaintiff to show that the Defendant caused the injury.
3) Redressability. There has to be a suitable remedy that the court could award if the Plaintiff prevails, be it returning property, paying money, injunctive relief, declaratory relief, etc... In civil law, if the only remedy available to the court is, say, having the defendant put to death, there is no standing. That doesn't get into punitive damages, but that's another story.
You won't be able to show injury from the military swat team right now. I think that the issue of standing should be wholly different when it comes to violations of rights, but it's not. I want you to think about this for a bit: If you or I or Rhodes or The Guardian or whomever, looked up what the Ebola SWAT teams will be doing and determined that it was illegal or unconstitutional, and then sued, asking for injunctive relief, the courts would be doing their job by ruling that none of us have standing at this point.
So you are the one. . .who believes the just-us system still administers justice. If you get into a situation where you're worrying about 'standing', just start . . . er. . . resisting.
I've been through the "justice" system without an attorney and against a bank. I prevailed. Whether or not you can get justice depends on two things: What district you're in and whether or not you know how to take it for yourself. I had to learn the latter on the fly. I'm lucky on the former. I will make no bones about this: It is not the justice system, it is the legal system. It's not nearly as simple as reading a statute and asking that it be applied according to the plain language. You need to follow the rules of civil/criminal procedure and the rules of evidence. You need to maneuver yourself so that your opponent fucks up while you come out squeaky clean. You need reams and reams of 'authority' (case law) backing your arguments. If you're going in pro se, you need to look and sound indistinguishable from an attorney.
Those are all nice concepts. Good thing they only apply to honey pot tort-waiving statutes like
18 U.S.C. 242 deprivation of right under color of law.Election of remedy is a bitch.
Put me on that list too. Bring a platoon and an armored column.
Insults, whining and excuses. What happened to American ingenuity, creativity, resourcefulness the world has heard about for so long?
Your strategy is accept that there is nothing that can be done and wait until they're at your front door and then start taking a lone stand like Brandon? Sounds like a losing strategy to me. There appears to be 0.0 high level opposition leadership to what is going on. Isn't there even 1 community organizer that's doing something to take the fight to the globalists?
Oh yeah, fearless Joe Arpiao. How's that case posse coming along?
Where did he say he was taking a "lone stand"? I must have missed that part. He mentions the Oath Keeper CPT program, which is community organization just like you describe.
if it is "the big one" then government intervention by definition can only assist in the spread of the virus...
only absence of involvement by anyone can prevent the spread of the virus...not involvement with the virus
just saying
Welcome to OBOLASTAN
Going off to the Ebola camp run by .gov fucktards would represent a life-threatening experience, so hell no, they'll have to kill me (and I've been preparing for years).
Government, always and everywhere, is the problem and the enemy.
Or put another way, if the only thing the theft and violence of government can produce is poverty, misery, death, and lies, then how can they ever actually help in any situation? They can't. This was very evident during and after Katrina.
And as one saw on 9/11, at Sandy Hook, and Boston "boom," they actually have an incentive to do the opposite.
An American, not US subject.
"Hi, I;m with the government and I'm here to...steal more wealth from you and take any gun-toting age children you may have about."
I got the H1N1 vaccine and shortly after transformed into Q99X2.
I guess them FEMA camps and black plastic coffins will come in handy after all.....
Betcha Francis Sawyer came back with a new name
Perhaps CheezyPoP-!
or something less obvious
This article got better as it went on, like someone was drinking more and started saying how they really felt (loved it).
Seriously, what logical person could believe anything liars and thieves say? If ebola is airborne there should be more cases (quietly hidden to keep us from panicking). If it's not airborne then why do we need mass vaccinations and martial law for 3 cases out of 315 million people?
Obviously we do not. It has all of the appearance of just another government or secret government psy op.
Erased out of the history books are all of the strange stories and inconsistencies that apparently circulated around the times of plagues and large scale flu outbreaks.
And, some of them are very strange, such as strange flying craft that sprayed fog over entire areas and strange people in (what would no be called) hazmat suits spraying fog.
History says that the Black Plague was caused by a flea that infested rats, but the plague popped up virtually simultaneously in large isolated population centers across Europe. It is not likely that rats could cover the distance and distribution logistics in the given timespan.
The less obvious conclusion is that there has always been a "hidden hand" controlling the size of the population... since the population is apparently incapable of controlling itself.
So, who is actually behind the spraying done by Evergreen Air? Is the story by the truck driver, who says he delivered biohazard cargo to military bases from and underground Albany lab to military bases around the country, true?
I suppose some of what the author points out might have helped 100 years ago. Now it is a bit too late.
There was more opposition to the governments and banks 100 years ago than there is today. It just does not make the history books,
People are not stupid.
As I Recall,
1. In an average flu season about 30,000 people die from the flu.
2. In an average year about 30,000 people die from the flu vaccine
3. For a vaccine to be considered effective and suitable for use, it must be effective for at least 30% of the population
4. Every day globally about 20,000 people, mostly children, die of starvation
Obola, THIS!
I would never willingly take a vaccine endorsed by Obomber, the guy who brags that he is "good at killing people".
@Titus....Mongo concurs!
ps. If I didnt already say it!
Good day:-)
The idea that these medical dumbasses could manage a true martial law medical emergency is laughable.
I love the smell of ebola in the morning.
Wait until you've tried a bowl of Obola soup with French bread for lunch.
Now that is really delicious. Yummy yummy.
If an Obola pandemic breaks out, you can be sure that when somebody is suspected of being infected or of being a carrier is rounded up by a medical SWAT team, the level of medicaton given will be little more than palliative. The numbers of people will be far too large to do anything else (if indeed they even wanted to).
Victims will be rounded up and quarantined from the rest of the population and allowed to die.
There is only one way to keep your rights, and that is to learn the law (and what laws apply to whom) and be confident enough to take anyone to court for violating your rights. Allowing the violation of your rights by anyone, including government officers, is acquiescence in law and agreement with those violations.
That's right! When the SWAT thugs bust thru your door, just tell them that you will take them to court.
We all have to decide what we'll do when the black suburban pulls up in the driveway.
Ref: "“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"
Chennel Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. Before they send you to the camp.
There's something hardwired in TFJ's that make them need to kill tens of millions of people every so often. 100 million or so in bolshevik russia, 100 million or so in zio-Mao China, at least 10 million now as they are building the greater israel. And now with the planned rollout of some form of nano-vaccine for their created ebola `crisis', gotta figure 50-100 million more. What are these creatures?
Sub-humans who have been taught to believe they are super-humans...
What are TFJ's? Are you writing in 'tongues'? (trance induced blabber)
let me correct: 'TFZJ's'. You know, the ones that run the ZOG.. there ya go.
Ebola is not spread "easily"... "you can't catch it on a bus".... Why would they need martial law?
#ebola
Volunteers needed:
WHO expects about 200,000 experimental Ebola vaccines should be ready by mid-2015
http://tersee.com/#!q=ebola&t=text
All the families of:
Bill Gates and all the financiers of their vaccine machine
Warren Buffet
Congress
TSA
FEMA
CDC
GS
JPM
Federal Reserve Board
did I miss any?
And now for the "good" news and "bad" news...
The bad news first...
This pandemic whether we find out it's been totally engineered for years by the U.S. Government and friends will probably kill millions before their is a backlash from the people in this debate which will happen when they understand just like 9/11 that this was deliberate and quite intentional as a means to coerce the less productive and skilled resources into yet another "new job market".
The good news...
You can't promote and fight an effective campaign for a World War to achieve energy dominance with a pandemic as the backdrop! Case in point the Spanish flu epidemic that happened at the close and not the start of WW I... The nuclear option always exists, but what will be left "productive" vs. fallow in terms of resource and human capital in the aftermath for those in charge will more than likely make them very unpopular should they survive...
The guys running this casino have totally "screwed the pooch" this time and they know it!
son, just think of the impact on FREE TRADE ebola may end that always a silver lining.
omu
Thank God for protagonist(s) ALL with power that have the will, faith and courage to use it in order to build economies with stable currencies based on the rule of law around those that do not!
You got it right as you say - "the plan is to allow Ebola to spread..."
Few realize that vaccines contain toxic mercury, aluminum, MSG neurotoxin and formaldehyde embalming fluid. The sheeple don't realize vaccines are a poison delivery system in order to disable the health of the public.
Through toxic injury, the sheeple get captured and display a blind allegiance to the establishment. This prevents challenges to the Fed banking scams that steal from the public.
Ebola is designed to actually thin out the herd because our hidden EU organized crime rulers realize they can't maintain yearly deficits with so many sheeple getting entitlements.
EU organized crime took over America in the 1913 Fed Act through their Jesuit, Masonic and Zionist agents and have secretly been poisoning and capturing the public by poisons added to our food, water and medicine.
This produces anxiety, depression and a blind allegiance to the establishment. Notice how the sickest sheeple are the one's who are pro big government and pro establishment. A sure sign they have been captured through toxic injury. Americans are an extinct and captured species and they are not going to know what hit them when TSHTF.
Would not thinning the sheeple to reduce entitlements also reduce those able to support them?
The poison results from corporate greed, in that the food needs to be as cheap yet good-tasting as possible regardless of long-term consequences.
What is martial law?
Real martial law is rule by military authorities when the civilian government has been overthrown or incapacitated.
If there is functional civilian government in place, whatever you think is going on... it's not martial law, it's something else.
After the long-winded text and too many dumb comments, I'm going to search; 'ebola fraud'. Or just visit; http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/
I don't think this is anything evil, just cronyism and incompetence, An intentional spread of ebola would result in significant losses for the top .01%. How would the Walton family be able to sell us crap at huge markups?
I was willing to consider the author's views until hewent off into anti-vaccine conspiracy land. Remember what it was like when kids were afraid to leave the house for fear of catching polio and endingup crippled, paralyzed in an iron lung, or dead? Remember people dying of smallpox? Didn't think so. Vaccines made that history.
Agreed. I think there are some legit concerns [fluoride can be neurotoxic without doubt, but is the amount in treated city water at that level concentration? It's at least possible that a vaccine could contribute to autism, but are we talking about not preventing 1,000 cases of serious illness to prevent 1 case of autism which likely had several co-factors?] but, as usual, some people's only tool is a conspiracy theory.
It's why I started and stopped listening to Alex Jones and Mike Rivero. Not everything is a govt. conspiracy. Not everything is a false flag, and not every gmo is going to turn you into a sterile retard with scoliosis...
Remember people dying of smallpox? Didn't think so. Vaccines made that history.
Why certainly OW
By the same people that helped spread them through toxic vaccines that weren't properly tested on thousands upon thousands that wouldn't have gotten sick in the first place had they not taken the vaccine(s)!
Fixed it!