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Martin Armstrong On The Danger Of Conspiracy Theories

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Submitted by Martin Armstrong via Armstrong Economics blog,

Conspiracy

 

If you want to hide something in plain view, exaggerate it to the point it becomes extreme and convert it to a conspiracy theory. This is a very standard in how to create propaganda and if you keep saying a lie, its becomes the truth to many without ever having to prove anything. To uncover the truth, takes digging. This I have discovered both in politics as well as market fundamentals.

The two big conspiracy theories to be exaggerated that cover up the truth are the 911 WTC Attack and the Kennedy Assassination. With the former, people take it to the extreme and claim there was not even an attack by terrorists and the whole thing was made up. Sorry, there was an attack and the government knew it was coming and allowed it to for three purposes

  • (1) eliminate the evidence on many cases in WTC7 including all my evidence that documented EVERY  market manipulation up to 1999 by the investment banks et al for which they are getting fined all the time today
  • (2) wipe out the evidence that would have exposed the missing $2 trillion in the Pentagon budget, and
  • (3) generate more power for government by allowing Americans to be victims as originally proposed in Operation Northwoods.

Now, that is far closer to the truth than claiming there was no Middle East terrorists involved at all, Strange, for that does not jive with Saudi Arabia threatening Russia with terrorism or the funding of ISIS to overthrow Syria which has now overthrown most of Iraq.

Patton George (1885-1945)

 

Then there is the Kennedy Assassination spun to be the product of the Mafia or with Oswald’s Russian connection. Eisenhower in his Farewell Address warned of the vast military complex that had grown out of World War II employing over 3 million people. There was no such industry before that war and the view was now Communism would take the world. My father was a Colonel under General Patton and you to tell me all the time about him as a child how he read the books of his opponent and how he accurately predicted that the real enemy would be Stalin and wanted to go all the way to Moscow.

Kennedy_Nixon_Debat_(1960)

In the Third 1960 Presidential Debate, Kennedy exposed the truth behind the decline in the Bretton Woods System – it was the vast expenditure on the military. Her said:

Now on the question of gold. The difficulty, of course, is that we do have heavy obligations abroad, that we therefore have to maintain not only a favorable balance of trade but also send a good deal of our dollars overseas to pay our troops, maintain our bases, and sustain other economies. 

The price of silver was rising and Kennedy set in motion the withdraw of silver from the monetary system. This too has been spun into a conspiracy theory  Here they have spun JFK’s Executive Order 11110 into the Federal Reserve killed Kennedy because he was taking their power to print currency away. You just can’t get any more far-fetched than that one.

Simply put, JFK also said the US current account deficit could be stopped at any time if the government stopped expanding its military worldwide for that was sending dollars offshore. If anyone had a motive, it was the very same people behind the NSA abuse of power – not the Federal Reserve, Mafia, or Russians. Just follow the money and you get closer to the truth – i.e. Halliburton, Cheney and the Iraq War against a nation who was against religious fanatics, the very terrorists who attacked the USA – go figure that one out without following the money. We took out two dictators who kept religious fanatics in check -Saddam Hussein and Muammar al-Gaddafi.

BTW, as soon as Halliburton was to be investigated, they moved to Dubai. Just follow the money.

 

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Sat, 10/25/2014 - 09:45 | 5375966 Crawdaddy
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Lots of life lessons to be found down in crawdaddy land!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPzydJ7xKlo

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 23:36 | 5375329 HungryPorkChop
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I guess I'm not the only one that noticed his writings changed dramatically about the time he was released from the big house.  I guess at some point anyone is ready to cut a deal and wonder if his writings are now just handed to him by a alphabet named soup agency?  He then inserts a few of his own words, puts on a spin and then publishes. 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 10:13 | 5376008 TuPhat
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There wasn't much concrete at the higher levels.  Mostly steel and glass.  It isn't just the hardness of the materials.  The momentum of the moving object has a lot to do with it.  I'm not saying you are wrong, just saying it's a lot more complicated than your post implies.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:04 | 5376439 flapdoodle
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Tall Tom's physics lesson it a bit of a stretch: As Dakotas F4 video shows, the plane disintegrates pretty quickly, and the pieces are like to be scattered in a cone from the impact point as they strike random items within the building. It is unlikely that the dense items from the aircraft all magically headed towards the steel girders to neatly slice them up and essentially allow the building to collapse in its own footprint with the collision of the dense pieces turning the girders into molten metal.

Not bloody likely. Controlled demolition is much *less* of a stretch...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 10:26 | 5376036 xavi1951
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It's called KINETIC energy!  How can an aluminum bolt fired from a railgun penetrate 3" steel plates?  Kinetic energy.  An aluminum jetliner (that is really old speak....jetliner)  has a shitload of kinetic energy baes on speed and weight.  Didn't you finish junior high?  That is basic physics.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:50 | 5376731 detached.amusement
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that's evidence you failed basic physics

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 15:02 | 5376773 Pickleton
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Well, since he spoke truth and you blathered, then I guess that makes you an idiot.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 15:04 | 5376770 Pickleton
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explain how a mostly aluminum jetliner entirely penetrates the side of a steel reinforced concrete building

 

Well, if you and that logicman simpletons are having trouble thinking about thin skinned aluminum going thru reinforced concrete, then think of it in terms of approx 229K pounds travelling at 465mph.  Ya poopy pants, it's going to go thru a foot of reinforced concrete.

 

Max capacity of Boeing 767 = 395K pounds

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120126181958AA810kJ

 

flight 11 was as 58.2% of capacity going 465 mph

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_11

395000 * .58 = 229K pounds

 

I'm sorry, but you people yammering that an airplane couldnt go thru the side of a building are slack jawed morons

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 06:08 | 5378639 Notsobadwlad
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So how did the passport flutter unharmed to the ground when nothing else from the supposed jetliner did? or was it simply moronically planted evidence and what does that imply?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 05:40 | 5375755 Zero Point
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Dayum good vid, nope!

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:40 | 5374662 PT
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It's only a "conspiracy" when you're not in on it.  Otherwise it's just called "helping out your mates".

There is no clear line between fantasy and reality.  The line is very much blurred.  And yes, some conspiracy "theories" will be opposed by other theories just to keep y'all confused.

I do not expect that the world is run by lizard people.  But if it is, I will not be surprised.  How could it possibly be any weirder than other shit that has happened over the last two decades or so?

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:29 | 5374815 Escrava Isaura
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Wow!

Now, here we have a government that, accordingly to most here, its total incompetent.

That got caught selling weapons to fund the Nicaraguan Contras to overthrow its democratic elected government.

The same incompetent government that could not hide the Watergate Scandal.

 

But, that can hide 9/11.

 

So, for the hedgers that still wondering why that Goebbels copied US propaganda. And its brainwashing techniques that deprives its citizens of the ability to make informed decisions.

 

Well, wonder NO more!

 

 

“As I grow older, I pay less attention to what men say. I just watch what they do.” -- Andrew Carnegie

 

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:36 | 5374827 chumbawamba
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They only seem incompetent, and that only when they want to be seen that way...or at least their puppets.

-Chumblez.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:24 | 5374988 Escrava Isaura
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chumbawamba

1) For the government to pull a stunt like that would take lots of cleverness. The people in DC are intelligent, but they are not clever.

2) The people in DC have big egos. They would jump in any opportunity to destroy the opposition.

3) 9/11 happened in two different US urban centers. Around too many people to be fooled. To be bribed.

 

But two things are sure:

The administration was sleeping on the switch

And building 7 collapses was totally bizarre

 

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:38 | 5375034 chumbawamba
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Some people are only a little affected by hypnosis.  Some people a lot.  Some people none at all.  It took me a while, but I finally received enlightenment.  Try as you might to refute it but if you have any sort of experience with materials and structures generally, then you'll know that what we all "witnessed" on TV that day was unreal.  I'm not sure what the people on the ground saw, but reports vary.

All I know is what I know: airplanes don't go "poof" into buildings like that and buildings don't go "poof" into themselves like that.

Unpossible.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 22:03 | 5375111 moneybots
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"All I know is what I know: airplanes don't go "poof" into buildings like that and buildings don't go "poof" into themselves like that."

 

Actually, they do, as can be seen in the video of the jetliners striking the Twin Towers.  The Towers later collapsed as result of the damage caused by the out of control fires.  The Towers collapsed from within the fire zone.  Once the collapse was initiated, there was no preventing the debris from plowing floor by floor, down through the remainder of the building.

 

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 22:42 | 5375206 chumbawamba
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Yeah.  Hey, I have a good one:

Once upon a time there were three little piggies.  The first built a house out of straw.  The second built a house out of wood.  And the third, the wisest, built a house out of brick.  Well, now, there was this big bad wolf, and he wanted to eat him some pig, so he went out looking and came across the straw house of the first piggy.  The first piggy ran inside and closed the door.  The big bad wolf told him, "Git yo ass outside, sucka!"  And the little piggy defied the big bad wolf and purportedly said, "Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin."  So the big bad wolf said, "Come on out or I'll huff and I'll puff and blow yo god damn house down!"  And the little piggy inside said, "Boo yah!"  So the big bad wolf huffed and he puffed and he blew down the straw house of that bitch ass little piggy, who ran all the way to the second little piggy's wooden house and they both barricaded themselves inside.  Well, the big bad wolf followed the first little piggy to the second little piggy's pad and told both of those fools the same thing: "Git yo bitch asses out that house 'fore I huff and puff and blow that shit down!"  The little piggies defied the big bad wolf and said the same punk-ass shit as before, "Not by our chinny chin chins".  So the big bad wolf huffed and he puffed and he blew that piece of shit Section 8 wooden house the fuck down.  The two little piggies then ran to the third little piggy's brick house and barricaded themselves inside.  The big bad wolf followed those little bitches to the third piggy's house and told them, "Now, looky heah: you's gonna come on outta there or else I's gonna huff and puff and blow that shit down."  And the little piggy's taunted the big bad wolf, squealing their little bitch ass "Not by the hair of our chinny chin chin."  So the wolf huffed and he puffed and he could not blow the brick house down.  Cuz it was built like a brick shithouse.  Which is basically what it was.  The wolf got all loopy trying to blow the brick house down and ended up bumping his head on the curb outside the piggies' crib, and bled his sorry ass out onto the street.  The moral of the story is: you're an idiot.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 22:55 | 5375245 Crawdaddy
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I don't know much about metallurgy and physics. I look to professional scientists to expaln these things:

http://www.ae911truth.org/

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 23:30 | 5375323 johansen
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unfortunately that group is compromised. i haven't figured out why or who exactly is. but their lead "engineers" can't look a person in the eye anymore.

 

with regard to those airplanes well, the wings would have sheered off and fell to the ground. maybe not the whole wing, but a good bit of it. instead they clearly vanished.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 10:23 | 5376033 goneYonder
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Let's also remember that the buildings turned to dust.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 10:55 | 5376088 clymer
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chumba that reminds me of this vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtffv9bpB-U

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 10:30 | 5376043 sleigher
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"i haven't figured out why or who exactly is"

 

I have never seen a better way to back up an accusation.  Or even better is...

 

"but their lead "engineers" can't look a person in the eye anymore."

 

Because you are with them all the time and see them never looking anyone in the eyes.  And the quoting of engineers is to infer what exactly?  That they aren't in fact engineers?  Could you please back that statement up with something other than I think?

 

I agree about the wings into the Pentagon though, there would of at the very least have been damage as was seen on the towers when the planes hit.  

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:16 | 5376646 moneybots
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"Yeah.  Hey, I have a good one:

Once upon a time there were three little piggies.  The first built a house out of straw."

 

Which has nothing to do with the absolute fact that two 767 jetliners crashed through the exterior wall of the Twin Towers, despite the fact that you think that they shouldn't have been able to.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 15:17 | 5376808 Pickleton
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You can stop arguing now.  You're not gonna convince all these dolts if they don't believe what was plainy visible in thousands of different video recordings.  You're just gonna get frustrated and they're gonna feel self rightoues parroting Rosie Odonnel bullshit - Fire cant melt steel!

 

slack.jawed.morons.

 

 

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 23:02 | 5375265 feeb
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Israelis are great at keeping secrets.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 03:56 | 5375697 Escrava Isaura
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feeb

That Israel knew about the attack, or the plot, and did little to warn us would not surprise me.

That the administration had some information but did not connect the dots that too would not surprise me.

 

But, building 7 collapse bugs me. That collapse I am very suspicious. But until someone comes forward with concrete prove that it was planned, say because they knew of the attack in advance, even that they didn’t know the exact date, I don’t think it’s worth spending time with these issues (propagandas/distractions).

 

Instead, I think we should focus on the next financial collapse, because it will take the dollar with. And American’s way of the ‘good’ life with, forever.

 

The empire, living off the world’s resources and cheap labor will be over, and the descent will be horrifying. And the misery to intense to be described in words; and that will probably take the whole world with.

 

How can you tell?

 

US imports about 1/3 of the oil it needs. And about 7% of the natural-gas it needs.

 

And, once the most stupid of the stupid that’s consumed by the mania of hope, alongside of the disenfranchised youth that’s consumed by tech and little critical thinking; both not emotionally ready and mentally prepared to accept the impending disaster…. And here, ladies and gentlemen, are the real problems.

 

 

“One of the most pathetic aspects of human history is that every civilization expresses itself most pretentiously, compounds its partial and universal values most convincingly, and claims immortality for its finite existence at the very moment when the decay which leads to death has already begun.” -- Reinhold Niebuhr

 

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:41 | 5376529 Bay of Pigs
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WTC7 is just the tip of the iceberg. No human remains at Shanksville. No plane hit the Pentagon. The whole 9/11 story is complete bullshit. Go do some real research if you want to be taken seriously around here.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:22 | 5376658 moneybots
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"No plane hit the Pentagon"

 

Eye witnesses saw the plane hit The Pentagon.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 15:16 | 5376800 Bay of Pigs
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I have seen no proof of that, esspcially video confirmation. That fortress is the most heavily gaurded building in the world and has hundreds if not thousands of camera around it. There no clear shot of the plane hitting the building.

Please provide some real evidence or STFU.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 15:23 | 5376824 Pickleton
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That fortress is the most heavily gaurded building in the world

 

LMAO!  If you can convince me that a guard booth and men with pistols can stop an aircraft from the air, I'll suck your dick.  Hell blowjobs all around!  LMAO! 

 

BTW, Japanese Kamikazes are a figment of the historical imagination too. 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 15:25 | 5376831 Pickleton
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Well, the alternate explanation is that a F4 hit the pentagon.  So provide the evidence or STFU. 

 

It wasn't that?  It was a b0mb.  Provide the evidence or STFU

 

It wasn't that?  It was aliens with death rays.  Provide the evidence or STFU.

In the end, just STFU you loon.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 16:03 | 5376939 Bay of Pigs
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Fuck, the loons, idiots and trolls like you are legion on ZH now. Thank God your types were totally discredited many years ago when it comes to topics like 9/11.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 18:21 | 5377242 Pickleton
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Fuck, the loons, idiots and trolls like you are legion on ZH now

 

said the stupid sack of shit that somehow thinks men with pistols stopped an airliner in the air....

 

said the dumb sack of shit that thinks 250 THOUSAND POUNDS of aircraft cant crash thru the wall of a skyscraper.

 

Ya, it's me that's the loon.   Ya, I've been discredited.  You're too stupid to drool on yourself.

 

So when you go home at night to "Fire cant melt steel" Rosie Odonnel, who plays the bitch?

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 15:20 | 5376814 Pickleton
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Go do some real research if you want to be taken seriously around here.

 

On this topic, that's like bragging about being king of the asylum.  it.means.nothing.  But I do so encourage all you idiots to keep yammering.  I'm getting a great Saturday morning laugh at your expense.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:07 | 5376446 flapdoodle
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The "government" didn't carry out 9/11.As you say, most of the Government is made up of retards, as are those who take what they read from the MSM at face value.

The Deep State did 9/11, and they are anything but retards.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:58 | 5374910 logicalman
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If you keep the populace in a state of ignorance, you don't have to try very hard to hide things.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 02:07 | 5375608 jeff montanye
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when george h.w. bush was eulogizing gerald ford (prez after watergate and major water carrier for the warren commission on jfk killing) he mentioned oswald as the lone gunman.  and he laughed.  at the funeral of an ex president. 

i find that telling.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 07:32 | 5375843 Notsobadwlad
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Right, because according to some Pappy was "the lead" on that operation.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:59 | 5374912 PT
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Certain parts of 9/11 only remain hidden if you refuse to look.

Other parts of 9/11 only remain hidden if you shut your eyes tightly and yell out, "LALALALALALALALALA..."

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:01 | 5374925 eXMachina
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Incompetence gives them plausible deniability. I find it hard to swallow that you didn't know that.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:58 | 5375088 Keyser
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TPTB implemented the psyop to keep the sheeple passive, hell they invented it techniques... Those that recognize the fraud are branded as conspiracy theorists and nut jobs... I took the red pill a long, long time ago and learned that I am but a cog in the machine and if I stick my head up, it will get whacked like a whack-a-mole... Walk on the beach, drink a beer and enjoy life while you can... 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 00:43 | 5375489 Best Satan in Town
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Sad, but oh so true. Especially when you burrow several miles deep down the rabbit hole. Serious people will know what I'm talking about.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 15:24 | 5387040 OffShorewHore
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Totally and com-fucking-pletely agree with you Keyser, I came to this conclusion back in September 11, 2011, after walking through downtown that fatefull day to rescue my then girlfriend who worked at 55 Water Street, and while I was the only one in plain clothes walking towards the burning-falling buildings-I started my trek from 34th street and 7th Ave.-  I remember I kept looking up for something more sinister to come end it all for Humanity. 

After we walked across the Brooklyn bridge along with everyone else, I spent the rest of that day wathcing the festivities from the sanctuary of my Flatbush Brooklyn apartment roof smoking a dutch thinking; these fuckers just implemented the next phase of their sick twisted NWO plan and while I'm enlightenedly privy to it, I'm also helpless to do anything about it.

The rabbit hole is very deep and my dick just ain't long enough to keep fuckin with it..... 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 00:56 | 5375511 Dave Thomas
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Escrava, Oscar Romero wants to know why you're such a douche? I asked him, and he seem's adamant about the question.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:30 | 5374821 HomersGhost
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"I do not expect that the world is run by lizard people. But if it is, I will not be surprised. "

There is more evidence of space lizardmen on the planet than there is for jesus.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 22:02 | 5375108 Keyser
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Now you've gone and done it... 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 00:56 | 5375513 NemoDeNovo
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It is SO much fun to have a good laugh at the expense of any of the beLIEvers, what ever their chosen 'religion' is. 

Someone once told me the religion meant "Real Lies Going On"  --  Seems to fit :)

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:36 | 5374829 SHRAGS
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There is no clear line between fantasy and reality. The line is very much blurred.  And yes, some conspiracy "theories" will be opposed by other theories just to keep y'all confused.

+1

Track down "Robert Anton Wilson explains everything".  I see a lot of similarities between him & Nassim Taleb.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:01 | 5376603 flapdoodle
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Reading RAW *is* taking the red pill... At least, he opened up my eyes so many years ago.

May he rest in Peace, and may history grant him the recognition he deserves.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:56 | 5374900 PT
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.

"The banks are too big to fail.  We have to give them money."
    "Okay."
"The people who ran the TBTF banks into the ground must keep their jobs and keep their bonuses.  They must not be sacked or replaced with competent people."
    "All right."
"Jon Corzine had no idea what happened to the $1.6 billion."
    "Okey dokey."
"There is nothing strange about $40 grand per year average weekly earnings and $400 grand average house prices."
    "Okay."
"And when the average house price goes up to $440 grand the next year, that is completely normal and nothing to worry about."
    "Okay."
"When an aeroplane hits a building, an hour later the building turns into dust and hits the ground at free fall speed."
    "Oh, all right."
"These synthetic CDOs are safe because they are rated AAA."
    "Oh, good."
"We need to save water because we are going to run out and there is enough water for all the extra people moving in to the area but you need to save water because you use too much."
"3%, 4%, 9% isn't enough to cover your pension.   You should pay 4%, 9%, 20%."
    "Oh, I guess I'd better then."
"It is completely normal to have a world with just three operating systems.  The dominant operating system is Microsoft Windows because they are so good.  No one could possibly bring out a better operating system and if they could have then they would have."
"We need to conserve oil.  The most efficient city has people travelling 40 kms to work each day."
"We need to pass the legislation so we can see what is in it."
"They hate us for our freedoms so we have to have less freedoms."
"We must tolerate all peoples, even the intolerant ones."
"You must remove your motorcycle helmet but full face coverings are not a security issue."
etc etc etc
    "Okay."

"How could you possibly believe that the world is run by reptilian lizard people?  It is so ridiculous!"
    "???"

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:01 | 5374921 Westcoastliberal
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You forgot this one: "It's good that only 5 companies control all the things you see & hear.  Saves electricity and creativity, not to mention that pesky "independent investigative reporting".

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:05 | 5374941 PT
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Feel free to add more to the list.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:02 | 5374923 HomersGhost
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""How could you possibly believe that the world is run by reptilian lizard people? It is so ridiculous!"
"???""

It wasn't stated in the bible.
Therefore it cannot be true.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:15 | 5374967 PT
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Oh yes, don't pay any attention to the Bible becoz it is all hogwash.  Especially don't pay any attention to, say, Deuteronomy 23:19-20

19"You shall not charge interest to your countrymen: interest on money, food, or anything that may be loaned at interest. 20"You may charge interest to a foreigner, but to your countrymen you shall not charge interest, so that the LORD your God may bless you in all that you undertake in the land which you are about to enter to possess.

http://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/23-19.htm

because it means nothing in today's world.  Besides, we have more important things to worry about, like do you know the world in controlled by Jewish banksters ...

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 22:37 | 5375200 HomersGhost
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"Besides, we have more important things to worry about, like do you know the world in controlled by Jewish banksters ..."

Khazar Reptilian neathenderals.

Like mekennas android teddy bears but more voltage/amps of spritual energy or "loosh".

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 08:13 | 5375880 Snoopy the Economist
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PT - good comments brotha - I look forward to more.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:16 | 5374964 Implied Violins
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I read somewhere that we are actually living in the Matrix, that there are hyperdimensional aliens who 'farm' us for our emotional energies, especially negative energies. Their 'shepherds' are psychopaths who can communicate with them via evil rituals and they carry out their master's wishes. In exchange they and their descendants are taught how to 'divide and conquer' the masses via religion, politics, and finances and in this way are given dominion over us. Makes some sick kind of sense if you think about it...

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:18 | 5374975 Implied Violins
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I just junked myself.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:54 | 5375078 palmereldritch
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Living well is the best revenge

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:43 | 5376242 Cathartes Aura
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Culture is your operating system.  Delete it!   ~ Mckenna

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 22:32 | 5375191 HomersGhost
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" In exchange they and their descendants are taught how to 'divide and conquer' the masses via religion, politics, and finances and in this way are given dominion over us. Makes some sick kind of sense if you think about it..."

Makes more sense than a virgin birth
Of a sky god king
Who died and rose to heaven
And sits up there wearing a pretty robe

With no physical proof of his body being buried.
In a desert region no less.

I think the xtian religion is a pipeline for these demons.

Stick that into your pipe and smoke it.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 22:43 | 5375220 Implied Violins
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With the Vatican's known drug connections, I bet they often do.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:47 | 5374869 Greenskeeper_Carl
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the problem isnt futures contracts. The problem is that the market isnt free anymore. Its manipulated, massively, which leads to a very inefficient allocation of resources.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:52 | 5374695 Muh Raf
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Not only that, what about the flight passenger manifests for all 4 flights. The stupid tw*ts forgot to cook that evidence in advance and when the lists were revealed not one, that's right not one, of the 19 nineteen suspects were actually listed as passengers. That's a gigantic f*ck*ng OOPS! So given the fact that these guys weren't on any of the manifests AND at least 7 of them has subsequently surfaced across the Middle East shortly after 9-11 to say they were still alive, how can anyone keep pushing the "Muslims were involved" b*ll*cks. There were no jihaadi Muslims on those planes, period. There were some other arabic named individuals who were passengers and perished somewhere, but none of them were religious activists. There were no Muslims in the attacks. Get over it. 

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:01 | 5374730 FeralSerf
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Most people don't realize how difficult it would be to fudge the flight manifests. The flight attendants are (and were) very careful to ensure their accuracy. Mistakes do rarely happen, but to think that there were 4 (or 3) unaccounted for passengers on ALL four flights is absolutely unbelievable.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:21 | 5374767 GeorgeWKush
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Also, most people don't realize how easy it would be for a bunch of, let's say "the most powerful douchebags in the world", to do stuff that really should be absolutely unbelievable.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 02:14 | 5375619 jeff montanye
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wait.  they found mohammed atta's passport on the sidewalk afterward.  

that proves it.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:14 | 5374776 SlipStitchPass
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Come on Tahoe...it seems absolutley plausible that the USGov would know that WTC7 would implode into a pile of dust into its own footprint at freefall speed being the worst achitectual failure in the world to date without being investigated. Except of course for the other two buildings that were blown to hell that day.

Then of course they knew that the terrorist would fly that cruise missle...errr plane...sorry into the ONI office as well.

Don't be a fucking kook!

<sarc off>

Damn....I wish I could punch Martin Armstrong in the face for writing something so fucking stupid.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:56 | 5374902 Westcoastliberal
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Ever hear of "Operation Northwoods"?  Case closed.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 02:29 | 5375634 russwinter
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Precisely, James Corbett's 9/11 conspiracy classic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:11 | 5374566 LetThemEatRand
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Amen, brother.

Though I don't believe Bernanke is even pretending to tell us what he really believes.  Sadly, most of the population still has a hard time believing that people in positions of power will outright lie to us.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:12 | 5374571 The9thDoctor
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The danger of conspiracy theories is that you have guys like Cass Sunstein who brag in academic papers on how government agencies and corporations can "cognitively infiltrate" forums and message boards to deliberately stir up trouble to push false narratives and cause false debate.

Some theories are becoming more outlandish than the last to the point where most people become apathetic and give up.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:20 | 5374584 GeorgeWKush
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The line of rationality that goes between the "sheep herd" and the "tin foil nuts" is very, very thin, but the moment your believes are starting to be shaped by a fear of becoming a sheep you will fall down to the tin foil crowd (and vice versa). I sometimes catch myself doing this, and I see too many people on ZH apparently doing this mistake as well.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:34 | 5374645 disabledvet
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See below (novus or do seclorum....good book to read as well) and all off these theories suffer from the same malady namely they are not based on any EVIDENCE.

In short before we can have ANY truth we have to have OBSERVATION.

Even Einstein's theory of relativity is still that...a THEORY (albeit a very good one as the Manhattan Project showed.) 

You can deny truth but as Justice Jackson proved at Nuremberg you cannot deny EVIDENCE.

So sure...we can "spin" Ebola Etc any way we want...but this does not deny the fact that our response to an Outbreak (real or perceived) has consequences.

For example the current headline "50 dead in the Sinai."

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:48 | 5374680 GeorgeWKush
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Sometimes one single slice of evidence is enough, the question is whether you accept such a piece of information as reasonable evidence. This is where people get all emotional and so often let their predetermined opinion decide what they eventually will believe.

Also, just as important as a piece of evidence, is a motive. A conspiracy theory without any reasonable motives is usually just as useless as those without any reasonable evidence.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:55 | 5374897 Westcoastliberal
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That's "rise up" to the tin foil crowd, buster! But I agree that taking everything you read on ZH at face value will make one reach for the box 'o foil, and that's as it should be because our society is FUCKED UP!

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:27 | 5374616 Sinnedi
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As someone who gets into conspiracies some of the time, I wish to admit something. I do it for one reason. I do it to find out the complete truth. I do not being lied to or manipulated. I'd rather search for hours for truth then just see something on CNN! And believe it. I get into conspiracies because I feel that there is secret stuff that all of humanity should know that is constantly getting surpressed because of articles. It seems that conspiracies only get the boot from one place and that is the mainstream. I'd rather have a system that is not manipulative and truthful. I will do anything for this, and a system that cares about people instead of manipulating them to fight. I don't force my opinions out on people. I give them what I believe is the most truthful answer to what is going on to the current situation. I feel that the establishment is afraid of people who search for stuff like I do. If the person wants to talk more I do if they don't I don't. I also feel like I can stop some manipulation with my truth. I feel like a super hero trying to save the world sometimes.   

I love every person I ever met in my life I just wish the establishment would love as much as I do. 

 

 

I'll give you what I believe is unfolding in front of us. Its up to you to do your research or if you would not like to talk about this that is cool hope you all have a good day. 

 

The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6n_xCI-peq0

 

 

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:43 | 5374671 dow2000
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I enjoy myself a good conspiracy theory and agree in whole with the first segment of your statement.  However, with respect to latter part of your statement, I woulsay that 'You sir, are batshit crazy!!!!'

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:50 | 5374691 The9thDoctor
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I don't see what is so "batshit crazy" about quoting Albert Pike. I guess if you are new to the game, then maybe, but this is just a warm up.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:43 | 5375049 MontgomeryScott
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Thank you.

Now, worship me.

(Sincerely, Satan)

 

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 22:02 | 5375106 palmereldritch
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The name is Louis Cypher...pay attention

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 23:45 | 5375350 Ariadne
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Those who oppose you are programmed thus. The new version of iWar is on.

You are ok. Keep it up.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 07:46 | 5375851 Notsobadwlad
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He is not at all batshit crazy.

When the story that you are being told is not possible, then one must look for the story that fits the facts... and our feelings.

We have a lot of facts that seemingly make no sense, given what we are told is our current reality. However, if one creates a vision of reality under which all of the facts makes sense, then the world is nothing like what we are being told it is.

I do not like that we are being told that to be successful we need to be violent, unprincipled, greedy, power-hungry, disrespectful, randy whores. "All of the best people are, you know" (/sarc)

Since I do not like it, I choose not to be "successful" in that way.

There are explanations for the world being as it is. However, most people are a long way from getting there. Maybe you should try a little harder, lest you be forever lost.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:53 | 5374890 Westcoastliberal
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I think you really do mean well, but I agree with the others in saying that last paragraph is missing the forest for the trees.  This isn't about religion, it's about Human civilization.  The Illuminati wants to "reduce the herd".  That's what we're ulimately up against, it has zero to do with any "religion".  Illuminati only uses religion as a tool to manipulate us.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 07:51 | 5375858 Notsobadwlad
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The herd has been reduced many, many times throughout history.

Do you think it has always been done by the "so called" Illuminati?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 10:09 | 5375997 GoldenTool
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ooo someone asking the right question.  Chumbulz stumbled on it above.  If you don't even know the sides how can you play and further more what are the rules?

 

Silencium est aurum

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:52 | 5374891 Westcoastliberal
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I think you really do mean well, but I agree with the others in saying that last paragraph is missing the forest for the trees.  This isn't about religion, it's about Human civilization.  The Illuminati wants to "reduce the herd".  That's what we're ulimately up against, it has zero to do with any "religion".  Illuminati only uses religion as a tool to manipulate us.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 22:11 | 5375127 palmereldritch
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Zionism is a hate-agent of change for the Illuminati invented, popularized and distributed in the mid 19th Century by Moses Hess, Cecil Rhodes and the Rothschilds...much to the surprise of Theodor Herzl who thought he was the father of Modern Zionism...(he was never the same after he found out..)

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:51 | 5374697 chubbar
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The gov't may have "allowed" an attack on WTC 1 & 2 but it sure as shit didn't "allow" one on WTC 7. Just debris and random fires don't drop a 47 story steel framed building at freefall speed for the 1st 100'. That means that the gov't was in on it and if it was "in on it" for building 7 what the fuck do you think the odds are that they were in on it for the other 2, regardless of who or what was on those planes? Christ on a popsicle stick, let's start using some logic here.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 22:15 | 5375138 moneybots
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"The gov't may have "allowed" an attack on WTC 1 & 2 but it sure as shit didn't "allow" one on WTC 7. Just debris and random fires don't drop a 47 story steel framed building at freefall speed for the 1st 100'."

 

Controlled demolitions don't happen without dozens of timed explosions.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 23:56 | 5375364 macktheknife
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T

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 10:50 | 5376081 GoldenTool
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OK I'll put my hat on.  Takes out tinfoil hat and puts it on.

 Secret military unit located in underground bunker, doesn't listen to orders, on the grounding of all planes during 911.  They were set up outside the chain of command (aka political gov control) for just such an instance, scrambles jets or uses new sat tech to shoot down the 3rd plane (the pittsburgh plane).  Building 7 gets dropped anyway because this was the main target and had to be dropped.  Underground bunker later nuked as the virginia earthquake 4-5 years ago.  .Gov fully owned since by cia/bones/eastindiatradecompany.  911 accomplished 3 things.  Symbolically warns the masons (they) will destroy them if they (masons) interfere again.  By again I mean rebelling like they did in the Revolutionary War.  Destroys a huge amount of evidance against the middle management of the coup in building 7.  Figures out who is on which side in .gov and where the unknown groups are and by who I mean the alphabet agencies and heads.  Unknown groups being the mil bunker set up for contingencies and lockdowns.

This is just one take. I could spin this 20 different ways including gods and aliens if needed.  Could probably show circumstantial proof as well if I had a modest budget.  

The real questions are who owns the East India Trading Company.  Of course the Austrian flag is horizontal red and white and one of the oldest.  What started ww1 again...  Who owns the Dutch East India Company also.  My guess is you'd find interesting things if you looked up these peoples decendents.  

(Wiki quote)

This time they succeeded, and on 31 December 1600, the Queen granted a Royal Charter to "George, Earl of Cumberland, and 215KnightsAldermen, and Burgesses" under the name, Governor and Company of Merchants of London trading with the East Indies.[10] For a period of fifteen years the charter awarded the newly formed company a monopoly on trade with all countries east of the Cape of Good Hope and west of the Straits of Magellan.[10] Sir James Lancaster commanded the first East India Company voyage in 1601[11] and in March 1604 Sir Henry Middleton commanded the second voyage.

Tinfoil hat off.

I love the internet.  Lets play again sometime.  Need to go do some work.

Silencium est aurum

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:49 | 5375062 lasvegaspersona
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Keynes said the gold STANDARD was a barbarous relic. The only people who call gold that are people who misquote Keynes. Gold has never been a problem (except for those who want a currency to have primacy.)

Many central banks still hold gold because they understand its price is suppressed. They understand it's value is still high.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 22:41 | 5375214 Kirk2NCC1701
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Regarding JFK and the MIC (Halliburton, Cheney, etc) and the CIA having "Motive, Means and Opportunity", I'd paint old man Bush Sr, right in the center of that Bulls-eye:  Big Oil, Big Money, Big Secrets, Old Secrets, Old Money.  Duh!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:36 | 5376693 moneybots
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"Regarding JFK and the MIC (Halliburton, Cheney, etc) and the CIA having "Motive, Means and Opportunity", I'd paint old man Bush Sr, right in the center of that Bulls-eye:  Big Oil, Big Money, Big Secrets, Old Secrets, Old Money.  Duh!"

 

The evidence pointed at Lee Oswald.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 23:06 | 5375275 Ariadne
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I Kiked America was burning his bridges. That rat bastard set up the cold war with his bitch Truman. Because of them and our other enemies your gene stock will probably be no more.

Get it.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 03:55 | 5375700 CASTBOUND
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my co-worker's sister makes $72 /hr on the computer . She has been unemployed for eight months but last month her check was $12806 just working on the computer for a few hours. check this... www.yelptrade.com

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 07:40 | 5375849 ZH Snob
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the biggest danger of conspiracy theories is what if they are not theoretical at all?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 08:57 | 5375925 stant
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The sept after 911 my wife and I played hooky and went to the lake . We had to leave early enough to pick the kids up. As we were checking the boat to leave I looked up as what first looked like a Lear jet buzzing the high cliffs across the lake . But it was roughly half the size. No cockpit or side windows. Now I was just starting to get my ppl and knew aircraft for lease have to be inspected and test flown after so many hrs. And my first thought when I saw was the guy who ran the FBO taking up a Lear that was at our airport.and they have a good time with them when they test fly lol. I at the time thought it was a new type of drone being test out of wright pat. When I looked up us drones on the web no such bird. It's tail feathers where attached at the top of the fuse where it met the vertical stab and swept. Wings were swept. Round fuse . Longer than a small plane but half of a corp jet. So I know they have those dam things

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 10:45 | 5376069 StupidEarthlings
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Wait..so..dick cheyney killed Kennedy? .. wha???

And im guessin the missin trillions from defense dept was more likely to PAY for the 911 fiasco... not 'allowed to happen to hide the trillions'.

 

Lame ass article.. kinda ironic tho..doncha think? .

;)

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:09 | 5374557 Bumbu Sauce
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Have you ever seen the back of a dollar bill?

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:10 | 5374561 Winston Churchill
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Do you mean a FedRes Note ?

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:40 | 5374658 The9thDoctor
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Jordan Maxwell's Basic Slideshow Presentation from the early 1990s.
http://youtu.be/IYLcw-ZbGP4

I remember watching this on the old Google Video I think before Youtube even existed. Streaming video was new tech back then. He gets into all of the symbols on the back of the federal reserve ONE note.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:50 | 5376405 Urban Redneck
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Not really, given the themes and eccentricities of rest of their banknote designs, but that is an old note no longer used.

http://www.snb.ch/en/iabout/cash/current/design/id/cash_current_design_10

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:45 | 5375051 Dapper Dan
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Why do you think they call it Money..........?

Mon - ey

one - eye

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:15 | 5374560 JustObserving
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Now, that is far closer to the truth than claiming there was no Middle East terrorists involved at all

It was a CIA/Mossad plot as former President of Italy, Francesco Cossiga, who blew the whistle on Operation Gladio, explained:

Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, Francesco Cossiga, has gone public on 9/11, telling Italy’s most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.

Cossiga’s tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment and he was forced to resign after revealing the existence of, and his part in setting up, Operation Gladio – a rogue intelligence network under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 60s, 70s and 80s.

Coming from a widely respected former head of state, Cossiga’s assertion that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job and that this is common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies is highly unlikely to be mentioned by any establishment media outlets, because like the hundreds of other sober ex-government, military, air force professionals, allied to hundreds more professors and intellectuals – he can’t be sidelined as a crackpot conspiracy theorist.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ex-italian-president-intel-agencies-know-9-...

 

9/11 - The Truth In 5 Minutes - James Corbett

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgrunnLcG9Q

 

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:26 | 5374615 The9thDoctor
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+1 on linking to James Corbett's 5 min vid

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:42 | 5374666 JustObserving
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James Corbett has done a superb job on 9/11 but former CIA Iraq analyst Susan Lindauer, who was almost chemically lobotomized by our government, has all the knowledge and facts of an insider:

She believes the WTC buildings were wired for demolition between August 23rd and September 4th based upon what she had been told by the CIA. She believes there were airplane hijackings. She also said that the Israelis, Egyptians, Germany, Pakistan and the Jordanians had some measure of foreknowledge of the 911 attacks. (I believe the airplanes were hijacked electronically and that the 19 Arab CIA assets were used to create false evidence of a terrorist attack.)

Lindauer believes the media is complicit in the dumbing down of America.

On 911 Mossad agents filmed the 911 attacks. Also on 911 Dr Fuisz told Susan he was watching a video of the planes hitting the North and South Towers sent by the Israelis. George Bush said he saw the North Tower hit by a plane on 911. The public did not see that video until 9-12-2001. She said our government could have stopped the planes. (The electronically hijacked planes flew over 8 US air bases without intervention.)

She does not believe a plane hit the Pentagon. Her DIA handler Paul Hoven was convinced that the Oklahoma City bombing of April 19, 1995 was wired from inside the building and that a truck bomb alone was insufficient to cause the resulting damage.

After 911 the Iraqis offered financial documents on Al Qaeda which could have crippled their organization. The US refused the offer.

Two months after 911 Dr Fuisz received 13 million dollars from the 911 investigation fund. He said he was going to call his architect and build a mansion. She said she needed money to get information from the Iraqis on terrorists operating inside America. He said Absolutely Not. He kept the money and paid no tax on it.

She tried to speak up after 911. She offered to testify about pre-911 intelligence, peace offers and negotiations. She called the offices of John McCain and Trent Lott because they were the Gatekeepers. To testify before the Senate committee you had to got through them. Thirty days after contacting the Senate she was arrested under the Patriot Act in March of 2004.

http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2013/08/14/video-susan-lindauer-on-advance...

 

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:47 | 5374868 Westcoastliberal
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Thanks for mentioning Susan Lindauer, who is the real deal.  Between her and Sibel Edmonds boilingfrogspost.com you get a big piece of the truth about 911 and the whole "war on terror" bullshit.  This country is full of traitors. And for the record, isn't it feasible that Cheney is still running things from Raven Rock "Site R"?

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 22:17 | 5375147 moneybots
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"She believes the WTC buildings were wired for demolition between August 23rd and September 4th based upon what she had been told by the CIA."

 

She can believe what she wants.  Video of the Towers showed they simply collapsed.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:57 | 5376752 moneybots
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"She does not believe a plane hit the Pentagon."

 

Witnesses saw a jetliner strike The Pentagon. 

 

"Her DIA handler Paul Hoven was convinced that the Oklahoma City bombing of April 19, 1995 was wired from inside the building and that a truck bomb alone was insufficient to cause the resulting damage."

The back of the Murrah building was completely in tact.  The front of the Murrah building was completely missing.  The bomb was outside the front of the building.

I think it was Discovery Channel that did a program on the bombing and did some tests.  There was an officer who claimed that the truck bomb explosion could not have knocked the columns in.  The test confirmed that the blast was powerful enough to do so.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:07 | 5374944 SHRAGS
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James Jesus Angelton (CIA) had a background in Italy in the during the 1920's & 30's (cia.gov) - His father was a heavy weight for NCR for Europe.  Any surprises Italy was chosen for Gladio with Angleton's network?  Good background on Angelton:  James Angleton | 7 Types of Ambiguity

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:12 | 5374567 stant
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Bonds are dying on the eastern front

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:12 | 5374570 stant
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Bonds are dying on the eastern front

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:16 | 5374579 Oquities
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lack of transparency about current events forces people to come to their own conclusions. govt. does not need to do much to cause the theories to proliferate.  appointing a commission to find the truth (Warren, 911, etc,) guarantees alternative ideas because you know you're being lied to bybthem - so something else must be the truth.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:18 | 5374583 vmromk
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Mr. Armstrong, I think one too many cocks got rammed up your asshole while you were doing time in prison for fraud.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:10 | 5374948 SHRAGS
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Proven fraud or contempt, which is is? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_A._Armstrong

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:16 | 5374587 himaroid
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It's no fun being an illegal alien.

You cannot resist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqjfmUytFp8

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:20 | 5374597 ramacers
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like Patton said, "who's gonna keep the trains, water and sewage plants runnin' " ? in post-war nazis germany. the "folks" will tolerate anything to maintain the norm.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:20 | 5374599 kchrisc
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If the free-falls don't fit, you must conspiracy admit.

An American, not US subject.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:26 | 5374611 ebworthen
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I'm going to go buy a big roll of heavy duty aluminum foil.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:26 | 5374613 Fred C Dobbs
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So the ruling class didn't mind having the ability to print the reserve currency of the world taken away from them with executive order 11110?

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:30 | 5374618 Burticus
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Wait a bleepin' minute, Martin.  The conspiracy theory whitewashed & exaggerated by the Warren Commission was Oswald and the one repeated by doubters was the Mob.  Nobody spoke openly about Kennedy's "executive order" involving the (not really) Federal (with no) Reserve.  Just ask any clueless sheeple and they will mention Oswald or the Mob, but not finger the Fed.

Regarding silver, I always figured that Kennedy was whacked for refusing to de-monetize silver from the United State_'s coinage, which his replacement drone Johnson did immediately.  This was followed by putting his face on the 1964 (last) silver half dollar, which would fit the central banking cartel's M.O. of openly telegraphing & mocking everyone about their brazen misdeeds.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:04 | 5374936 Implied Violins
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Yup. See: Andrew Jackson, $20 bill. Avid anti-bankster. Every time an ATM spits out bills he rolls in his grave. And with JFK, after that first year his bust was on the *copper* half-dollar. I'm surprised they had enough restraint to show his whole head still intact.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:32 | 5374634 Karaio
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The best Conspiracy Theory is that of the United States were to Antarctica searching Nazis and Flying Saucers, Operation "higth Dump". Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk! 

Another conspiracy theory is one that my Polish grandmother was talking to Kennedy and asked him where he got the bullet in the brain. 

There is another, but that's with Argentinos, as they managed to sink some ships of the British Navy invincible without help from the Nazis who live and reside in Antarctica Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk! 

There is another theory that Schmidt Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses were CIA agents, there are theories that talk about Jesus is the way and the churches are the toll ... etc. ... 

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:32 | 5374636 himaroid
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George Patton 4th

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:33 | 5374640 Consuelo
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The only issue with 'conspiracy theories' is that almost by the day, they are more and more proven to be conspiracy Fact.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:34 | 5374646 himaroid
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Someone needs etiquette lesson moreso than me.

Armstrong, you would fail to mention Great Grandfather?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_S._Patton,_Sr.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:36 | 5374654 JuliaS
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Obama is a hoax.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 21:13 | 5374959 gwar5
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Several

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:46 | 5374664 THE DORK OF CORK
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How about this old corker.

 

Romes war against Ireland and the Irish church.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laudabiliter

 

Roman rule over ireland was (ironically) subsequently cemented after the anti catholic penal laws.......

What a wonderfull execution of a plan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPQlXNH36mI

 

You could argue the EU is a continuation of roman standardization policy.

But the new relegion is mostly consumer capitalism today.

 

 

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 23:39 | 5375346 disabledvet
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"They're all Nazi's now.". Simple as that. They simply have no Wehrmacht, American or otherwise...to, well...really do much of anything really.

There simply is no support for the military period in the United States...not now, not for thirteen years now.  Trust me....if there is was an uprising in the USA right now the military would not do a thing to stop it.

It is of course not legal for them too either.

This is a Supreme Court that found the Fugitive Slave Act Constitutional I might add.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:38 | 5374670 alexcojones
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 FOLLOWING IS FOR DEBATE PURPOSES ONLY (Kids: Don't try this at Home) /sarc

"Armed with a brand new batch of clever inventions and one eye-popping scale model, the intrepid team of Mythbusters decided to test a 911conspiracy theory, that the WTC towers collapsed by controlled demolition.

"We wanted to prove the conspiracy wackos wrong," said the intrepid duo, Jamie Hyneman and Adam Savage. "And of course score some big bucks by blowing things up."

According to the New York Times, Mythbusters "may be the best science program on television." Throughout scores of entertaining episodes, the dynamic duo of Savage and Hyneman patiently construct scale models and then smash them, crush them, burn them or blow them up.

"Or blow them down," said Savage, cracking a grin. "All in the name of science."

"According to millions of 911 conspiracy theorists, who believe the World Trade Towers collapsed by carefully rigged explosives, the government never proved their case fully. Many suspicions remain. Mythbusters intended to explode the foremost government myth about the 911 terrorist attack--that airplanes filled with fuel could cause a burning steel skyscraper to collapse--and thus prove the conspiracy theorists wrong."

Mythbusters Tackle 911
Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:46 | 5374681 Cautiously Pess...
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The only conspiracy that concerns me right now is the one about how ABC may be canceling Dancing With The Stars.  Man...I hope that does not happen.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 19:47 | 5374683 Infinite QE
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Martin's struggling to stay relevant as his predictions have been shite. Like some silent movie star trying to jumpstart their career in the 70's.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 22:56 | 5375251 moneybots
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"Martin's struggling to stay relevant as his predictions have been shite. Like some silent movie star trying to jumpstart their career in the 70's."

 

Armstrong's economic confidence model had a turn projected on September 3/4.  The stock market turned then to a down trend, even though it spiked to a temporary new high after the down trend began.

 

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:11 | 5374768 cpnscarlet
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And how does all this back-and-forth theorizing help stop the manipulation of the precious metals? If Martin was ever some great guru about PMs, he surely could have done some real "God's Work" in outing the manipulators...which he hasn't or won't.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 23:24 | 5375304 moneybots
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"And how does all this back-and-forth theorizing help stop the manipulation of the precious metals? If Martin was ever some great guru about PMs, he surely could have done some real "God's Work" in outing the manipulators...which he hasn't or won't."

 

Armstrong says one cannot manipulate the thrend.  Armstrong notes that gold is claimed to be manipulated when it goes down.  I don't myself recall anyone saying it was being maniplated as it ran to 1,900.

People have gotten the expectation that gold should run to 3,000 or 5,000 an ounce and if it isn't, then it is being manipulated.

Gold had a parabolic rise into 1,900 in 2011.  All parabolics fail.  Armstrong says gold has not peaked long term, but has called for it to decline despite the insistance of gold bulls that it should be climbing.

 

 

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:19 | 5374792 Westcoastliberal
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A lot more truth than conjecture in this piece.  Jim Marrs is a kick; haven't read "Crossfire" yet but if it's like his other stuff I'll put it on the list.  These days we have traitors everywhere in gov & corp and they must be outed and indicted.  Until they are it's "Twilight Zone" time for liberty & freedom. And let's not even talk about "Black Projects" like the 340-some odd "silencers" for automatic weapons this dude in Temecula cranked out for his brother who is head of some Pentagon splinter group (of about 10).  He billed $1.6 million and the actual cost was $10,000. Allegedly these could be used for a Coup 'de tat.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:20 | 5374795 ersatz007
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I don't like being a snob about this sort of thing, but when something is poorly written as this article is - and I don't mean in a stylistic sense - but in the sense that it's missing words and employs really bad grammar, it's hard to understand what the writer is trying to convey, much less take it seriously.  Maybe I'm just tired...

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 22:45 | 5375173 moneybots
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"I don't like being a snob about this sort of thing, but when something is poorly written as this article is - and I don't mean in a stylistic sense - but in the sense that it's missing words and employs really bad grammar, it's hard to understand what the writer is trying to convey, much less take it seriously.  Maybe I'm just tired..."

 

I wonder if he uses voice recognition software, as sometimes the wrong word is used in the middle of a sentence, as if the software thinks he is saying a different word than the one he is speaking.

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 01:57 | 5375598 Hapa
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"I wonder if he uses voice recognition software, as sometimes the wrong word is used in the middle of a sentence, as if the software thinks he is saying a different word than the one he is speaking."

I would agree with this observation.  Nobody writes this bad, unless English is their second language, or they didn't pass high school.  Spelling, grammar, proof reading - Martin is one challenged dude.

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:28 | 5374812 bunnyswanson
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Media monopolies are no conspiracy.  Free Press

http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart

 

TV, internet, radio, news print -

Who Owns the Media?

Massive corporations dominate the U.S. media landscape. Through a history of mergers and acquisitions, these companies have concentrated their control over what we see, hear and read. In many cases, these companies control everything from initial production to final distribution. In the interactive charts below we reveal who owns what.

Information is the currency in a democracy, Thomas Jefferson stated, I believe.  The information the masses receive is controlled and that is the issue.

 

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:46 | 5374866 limacon
Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:52 | 5374892 VWAndy
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The thing is if I can poke holes in your truth it aint the truth. Ever try and poke holes in the real truth. It dont care if you try. Ya cant do it once. Go ahead and try. The truth dont fight back it just is.

 

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 20:57 | 5374901 ersatz007
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What is ironic about Eisenhower being quoted about the MIC, especially in relation to 9/11, is that he allegedly proposed to his cabinet launching fake terrorist attacks against the US in FL so we could blame it on and subsequently go after Castro.  Operation Northwoods is documented - and whether it was just an extension of Ike's idea by the Joint Chiefs & DOD once JFK was in office, who knows.  But get this, one of the ideas was to fly a CIA plane disguised as a civilian plane w/ passengers...unload them in some desolate airfield, then continue its flight unmanned (a 'drone') over Cuba and explode, then blame it on Cuba shooting it down. 

Hmmm......sound familiar? 

Fri, 10/24/2014 - 22:31 | 5375186 moneybots
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"What is ironic about Eisenhower being quoted about the MIC, especially in relation to 9/11, is that he allegedly proposed to his cabinet launching fake terrorist attacks against the US in FL so we could blame it on and subsequently go after Castro.  Operation Northwoods is documented"

 

Isn't it documented as originating from someone in the military, not Eisenhower?

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