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Putin Warns Of Risk Of Major Conflict, Says Dollar Losing Reserve Currency Status
Having been relatively quiet for a while, Russia's leader Vladimir, speaking in Sochi (following meetings with Middle East crown princes who confirmed Russia as a key partner - "isolated"?), has unleashed his most aggressive statements with regard the failing world order:
- *PUTIN SAYS U.S. DOLLAR LOSING TRUST AS RESERVE CURRENCY
- *PUTIN: WORLD WITHOUT RULES IS POSSIBILITY; ANARCHY GROWING
Adding that the risk of major conflicts involving major countries is growing, as well as the risk of arms control treaties being violated, Putin exclaimed that the US-led unipolar world is like a dictatorship over other countries and that "US leadership brings no good for others," and calls for a new global consensus.
Having met Crown Prince Al Nahyan of Abu Dhabi in Sochi, who confirmed that Moscow “plays a very important role in the Middle East," and added that he had no doubts that his country and Russia “are bound by a privileged relationship," it appears Russia is less "isolated" than the West would have many believe.
As Bloomberg reports:
- *PUTIN SPEAKS AT MEETING OF VALDAI CLUB IN SOCHI
- *PUTIN SAYS WORLD GROWING LESS SECURE, PREDICTABLE
- *PUTIN SAYS NO GUARANTEE OF GLOBAL SECURITY
- *GLOBAL SECURITY SYSTEM IS WEAK, DEFORMED: PUTIN
- *COLD WAR ENDED WITHOUT PEACE BEING ACHIEVED: PUTIN
- *PUTIN SAYS COLD WAR `VICTORS' DISMANTLING INTL LAWS, RELATIONS
- *U.S. HAS WORSENED DISBALANCE IN INTL RELATIONS: PUTIN
- *PUTIN SAYS U.S. ACTING LIKE NOUVEAU RICHE AS GLOBAL LEADER
- *PUTIN SAYS WORLD LEADERS BEING BLACKMAILED BY `BIG BROTHER'
- *U.S. LEADERSHIP BRINGS NO GOOD FOR OTHERS: PUTIN
- *PUTIN SEES GLOBAL MEDIA UNDER CONTROL, UNDERMINING TRUTH
- *PUTIN SAYS WEST CLOSED EYES TO INTL TERRORISM ENTERING RUSSIA
- *PUTIN CALLS U.S. SELF-APPOINTED LEADER
- *PUTIN: UNIPOLAR WORLD LIKE DICTATORSHIP OVER OTHER COUNTRIES
- *PUTIN SAYS MANY COUNTRIES DISENCHANTED W/ GLOBALIZATION: PUTIN
- *PUTIN SAYS U.S. DOLLAR LOSING TRUST AS RESERVE CURRENCY
- *RUSSIA WON'T BEG FOR ANYTHING: PUTIN
- *SANCTIONS UNDERMINING WORLD TRADE ORGANISATION RULES: PUTIN
- *RUSSIA ISN'T WALLING ITSELF OFF FROM WORLD, PUTIN SAYS
- *RUSSIA READY FOR DIALOGUE ON NORMALIZING ECONOMIC TIES: PUTIN
- *PUTIN: WORLD WITHOUT RULES IS POSSIBILITY; ANARCHY GROWING
- *PUTIN CALLS FOR NEW GLOBAL CONSENSUS, INTERDEPENDENCE
- *PUTIN: CONTINUED USE OF FORCE IN UKRAINE MAY LEAD TO DEAD END
- *PUTIN SAYS U.S. CAN'T HUMILIATE ITS PARTNERS FOREVER
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Fighting talk?
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Escalation? It seems sabre-rattling is picking up as The Washington Times reports,
Russian military provocations have increased so much over the seven months since Moscow annexed Crimea from Ukraine that Washington and its allies are scrambling defense assets on a nearly daily basis in response to air, sea and land incursions by Vladimir Putin’s forces.
Not only is Moscow continuing to foment unrest in Eastern Ukraine, U.S. officials and regional security experts say Russian fighter jets are testing U.S. reaction times over Alaska and Japan’s ability to scramble planes over its northern islands — all while haunting Sweden’s navy and antagonizing Estonia’s tiny national security force.
“What’s going on is a radical escalation of aggressive Russian muscle flexing and posturing designed to demonstrate that Russia is no longer a defeated power of the Cold War era,” says Ariel Cohen, who heads the Center for Energy, National Resources and Geopolitics at the Institute for the Analysis of Global Security in Washington.
“The more we retreat, the more we are encouraging Russia to behave in a more aggressive way,” Mr. Cohen said. “We need to be engaging more deeply with our Central Asian allies, but instead we are in the process of abandoning turf to Russia, and it’s wrong — it’s against our interests geopolitically to let Russia feel that they all of a sudden have won all the turf without firing a shot.”
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The neocons must be rounded up and put on trial.
Or just rounded up and shot - because fuck 'em.
"Ariel Cohen, who heads the Center for Energy, National Resources and Geopolitics at the Institute for the Analysis of Global Security in Washington."
Ariel Cohen. Tell me, is there any organization in America not controlled by the Tribe? This is getting surreal....
Ukrainian air defenses have killed more innocent civilian air travelers than Ebola.
Damn, my man crush just keeps growing. I just did yoga so I am a little vulnerable also.
I wish he would just take Soros out with a lazer bomb and go "okay, all square for now".
We need a Ukrainian air defense czar.
The IDF has killed more women and children this year than ebola has, too, so maybe we will get an IDF czar?
US Drone strikes have killed more than 3,000 people in Pakistan. Maybe a Pakistan drone czar?
500 innocent Americans are murdered by police every year (USDOJ). 5,000
since 9/11, equal to the number of US soldiers lost in Iraq. Maybe a killed by the cops czar?
I'm just sittin' here relishing the idea of anarchy. Sounds pretty damn good right about now.
Gotta go... I'm way behind in my garbage can rummaging. Too many goodies, so little time.
The tribe are ramping up the rhetoric because they know their days are numbered and each day brings them closer to destruction...
I am aroused.
Pretty quiet on the Russian Ukraine front lately...but why not make it this weekend to start up some shit again.
Anyways, I was brought up watching American MSM to think Putin is evil and Russia is evil (thx to movies like Red Heat, Top Gun)...but honestly, he's one of only few world leaders making any sense nowadays.
As well, I am in my 30s....and fellow 30 - 40 year old people on ZH, you know what? DONT expect anybody under 20 to give a shit to whats going on, they were brought up oblivious to MSM and ideals that are useless (like getting the newest iPhone) and people over 50 are too old to give a shit....so its up to us to fight for what we believe in and what is right. We are the only ones who were brought up at a time that allows us to think rationally, logically and morally to make a statement in this fucked up society. I have been trying to open the minds of others around me....mostly with success...though I get called for being negative and sometimes crazy....but we are the only age group that can wake up the sheep.
Ariel Cohen, a good Christian boy I'm assuming?
Fuck the sheep, let them be slaughtered
Self quarantine
Protect you and yours
Putin should just call Washington what it is: a nest of psychopathic killers.
Do the opposite of the West, tell the truth.
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.
so i'm wondering how many latex covered fingers i will have up my ass at my next airport screening if i say right now, out loud for everyone to hear, "i wish this guy was my president"
Love it how by testing NATO, the Russians are making them spend a TON of CASH on gas. One Russian plane goes up and ten NATO jets swarm up lol.
Better yet when the Euros spend themselves to death on their own. Look at the Swedes looking for the bogus sub. Hate to see the Gas Bill for those ships. If they keep this up they may have to add OARS like in Viking times, to their Corvettes.
No way!
There’s as much chance of the dollar losing reserve status as there is of Ebola coming to estados unidos …simply not going to happen …
… Barry says so.
oh, wait a sec ....
America, fuck yea. Here to save the mfing day.
America ruins the world to rule it.
Partisanship and nitpicky details aside, don't you love that feeling of release and downright JOY when someone in power actually opens his trap and says something intelligent and truthful about current affairs? I used to get the same feeling listening to a Ron Paul speech. It's like the sun coming out from behind dark storm clouds and shining down.
Watching Canadian news this morning, the pablum is so thick I feel like I'm living in a daycare. I'm so close to cancelling, but I want to know what the sheepl are being told to think...
“U.S. DOLLAR LOSING TRUST AS RESERVE CURRENCY, WORLD WITHOUT RULES IS POSSIBILITY; ANARCHY GROWING.”
..and the downside is…..?
ZH still hasn't written an article about how in 2008 Putin proposed to the PM of Poland to divide Ukraine. Russia taking the majority with Poland moving in its army into only 5 West Ukrainian provinces. Doesn't fit the ZH script.
Source?
Seems to me that all Putin has to do is let the the USSA drunkenlystumble around destroying itself. To help it along, no propaganda necessary, just tell the truth. Like this speech. People I'd never expect it from are telling me that Putin seems more, well, truthfull than our guys.
Then, when it's time for the silver nail through the heart, buy media time in the west, maybe a late night infomercial, they're cheap, and give a little speech starting with "It's not my business, I know, but my intelligence people have given me information I feel an obigation to pass on. This is what actually happened on 9-11...".
Game over. The sooner the better.
Reading the article, I am surprised that Putin is so, um, 'honest'.
This SHOULD be an 'OH SHIT' moment for the people in the CONUS, but the MSM will make sure that the masses NEVER SEE THIS.
In all credit to the Daily Telegraph, they are reporting it openly. The BBC, however, (I could try to be surprised but know I would fail) hides it away and what report they do give is ultra brief, sarcastic and shprter than the rentagob critique below it that paints it as an attempt at Russian world domination. FFS!
MEMRI.
LOL
Do you need a loaner calorie, Bob? Need me to do all your research? :-)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/20/us-ukraine-crisis-poland-sikor...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/11180201/Polish-...
Joe, you really should re-check your sources from time to time. Here's straight from the horse's mouth (no, I'm not implying that Kerry has something to do with this).
WARSAW (Reuters) - The speaker of Poland's parliament, Radoslaw Sikorski, said on Tuesday he had mis-remembered when he told an interviewer that Russian President Vladimir Putin had proposed that Warsaw and Moscow occupy Ukraine and divide it between them.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/polands-speaker-backs-down-claim-putin-propose...
.... oh buddy misremembering can lead to a shitstorm of trouble...... I remember this one time I misremembered not getting the wifes permission to bring home these stripper twins for Christmas dinner....... ya know because everyone should have a warm place to sleep at chrismas and all.... apparently not all christians are all that christian......
Check out Sikorski's wife's background.
"Where we're going Marty, we don't need rules."
-Doc
Re: Lore
Watching Canadian news this morning, the pablum is so thick I feel like I'm living in a daycare.
+1000
Thanks for voicing the opinion of many Canadians.
moved
I was moved as well. Moved to ponder the Putin statement "new global consensus". A phrase which sounds eerily like "New World Order".
Perhaps I am just being paranoid.....or maybe, diligent?
cancel
Anyone find that sub, yet?
How about those black boxes from MH 17?
Anyone? Bueller?
I read that they have found the sub but it was just a Baby Ruth. They are currently draining the Baltic to disinfect it.
pods
Pods...I think you missed your calling in stand-up...
Pods was once into stand up but he stood down.
you guys crack me up. I live for this shit. Keep 'em coming!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYrY8aFCUCQ
Vlad: Alright Porky, thats 800 mil, cough it up.
Petro: I give you, nothing!
Vlad: Yea, I figured as much. Moose, Rocko, help the Ukies find their pocketbook.
Al Quaeda?
Divided States ...
You wrote: “he's (Putin) one of only few world leaders making any sense nowadays.
I have been trying to open the minds of others …. I am in my 30s.... DONT expect anybody under 20 to give a shit … and people over 50 are too old to give a shit....so its up to us to fight .We are the only ones who were brought up at a time that allows us to think rationally, logically and morally…
DS,
First: Putin is a fascist oligarch. Top down management (and from the KGB/CIA style).
Second: You’re 30, and you know shit! Just like the 99.9% of the population and most Hedgers.
Let me prove it to you:
a) Whatever you do (work, raising a family, taking a bus, and so on) you need energy. Energy comes from minerals. Do you see the ‘Real’ problems?
Ugo Bardi: “Because to extract minerals, you need energy. And that is the problem, you need more and more energy, and you have less and less because energy comes from minerals, which are fossil fuels, you see the problem?
The troubles come from our attitude that continues to make us believe that oil will last forever. It is not possible. Let's start thinking about that!
b) The first billion people took about 1,800 years. Do you know how long it took for the last billion?
FIRST: Putin BAAAAAD. Ohbummer GOOOOOD! Belive what they DO! not what they SAY!
Who is the aggressor here? Sorrows and company started this whole mess with malice in foresight to poke sticks at the Russian Bear to goad it into real aggressive action in Ukraine to take the moral high ground to justify another intervensionist war and print money to pay for it degradeing its value a hidden Tax for all! All this for Feedom and Mocracy just like in Amereeka!! After reading George Sorrows working paper for Ukraine it is clear to me the Tribe Conspiracy Theory is true. Amereeka is Isreals avatar and yes, they want to rule the world!! Russia is aware of the Wolfoblitz policy, America can stricke first for total victory!! IT'S LUNACY. IT IS AN EXISTENSIONAL ISSUE FOR THE WORLD.
SECOND: I don' know how old you are but please deal with the facts. Political and financial reform is urgently needed in USA or the're won't be one soon.
Would make sense if Soros shorted the Ruble. Otherwise where is the upside for a prick like Soros?
What is all this BS about the tribe? If you want to understand what's really going on, have a listen to mad man, David Icke-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNIcAcrvi2M
wasting oil on military failures is not a good solution for this problem.
Slave Isaura:
No use arguing with imbeciles!
These Americans understand just what the world thinks of them when everything is in flames.
No use saying that God is the way the Pastor is the toll.
Much less point in an industry that only manufactures instruments of death.
What goes around comes around.
You can be a citizen, a State or a Country.
hehe.
Karaio
It doesn't bother me. Wonder why?
a) I have a bleak view of humanity, starting next decade
b) 18 Reasons to Give Up Trying to Live Up to Everyone’s Expectations
http://www.marcandangel.com/2014/04/30/18-reasons-to-give-up-trying-to-live-up-to-everyones-expectations/
Yea about 10 months. Where is my prize?
Divided States is a douche bag. Just another ego maniac who thinks 30 year olds know shit. Ive usually found with the slow ones, that it takes another decade to figure out how fucking dumb they were ten years ago.
Don't worry, it's a rite of passage- it's just your turn to take it.
What in bloody hell are you talking about? You sound a little unhinged there buddy. What gives? Need a Snickers bar?
What in bloody hell are you talking about? You sound a little unhinged there buddy. What gives? Need a Snickers bar?
You and yours will be better protected if you are surrounded by like-minded people who see through the lies and are willing take a stand.
You do not stand a chance by "self-quarantining" yourself and the few around you.
This concerns us all.
I've been more upfront with my teenage boys lately on world events and such. They're slowly getting it. And we'll have more time to chat while practicing our markmaship skills this weekend (along with my 10 year old daughter). She loves the SKS. I'm so proud of her.
I've got two young men who WILL NOT be fighting The Powers next war.
They'll be busy helping the old man with some other tasks...... if you know what I mean.
A farmer down the street has a hay wagon load of pumpkins for sale for $1 each. We drill a 1/2" hole in the top, fill with water and shoot. Great reactive targets and the scraps make great fertilizer for the garden. Lots of fun and we all get a little better with the firearms. Yeah, that's what I do for entertainment.
What's the best relatively portable water purifier out there? Anyone have a list of three reasonably priced ones? They don't have to be pocket ones or that tiny...just reasonably sized and resonably priced ... effective enough to remove virus particles and bacteria.
Any suggestions?
To get sterile water you have to filter with a 0.2 µm filter. PIA. There are plenty of filtering water purifiers, but sterile is tougher.
Look at a Big Berkey, forget about filtering out viruses, IMHO. There is a smaller one as well. All gravity fed.
pods
AquaRain.
A pot, a few sticks, and a match does pretty well. Keep it simple.
Second Berkey. Of course, if you live in CA tough shit. CA demanded they hand over the plans for making them down to the last detail on the filters in order to certify it for sale in the state. Berkey told them to pound sand, rightfully so. Fuck California.
Sawyer gets the virus job done. The complete 4 litre .02 micron sawyer system is the shiz man. Incredible technology. I been using Berkey Blacks for years and years (still do) and the Sawyer beats them in a number of ways.
http://sawyer.com/products/sawyer-complete-4-liter-dual-bag-water-purifi...
I carry one with me everywhere, 24/7/365.
Grimaldus
A portable swimming pool filter does the job of removing the larger stuff, whilst you can easily chlorinate to the same level as Municipal water using household bleach - http://modernsurvivalblog.com/health/make-drinking-water-safe-with-bleach/.
For definitive removal of bactera, you'd need a 0.22 micron poresize filter, although the Pharmaceutical Industry gets by nicely on 0.45 micron for non-Aseptic operations (because of filtration dynamics / media interactions, 0.45 micron is "effectively" a sterilising filter). Protozoal parasites (eg, Giardia lamblia / Cryptosporidium spp.) only need a 1 micron poresize, whereas virus removal will necessitate reverse osmosis - however there are plenty of hand-operated RO units on the market (designed for incorporation in life-rafts) - http://www.watercheck.biz/products/katadyn-survivor-35-hand-operated-desalinator-watermaker . Need larger systems? - http://www.genesismembrane.com/hand-operated-ro-plants.html
If you plan to stay "at home" and you have a secure water supply, a standard swimming pool sand filter will give you just as good quality water as your Municipal supply - e.g. - http://www.zodiac.com.au/pool-filters and this might be of interest too? - http://www.bioniser.com.au/how-it-works.php
General very useful guidelines - http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/hygiene/envsan/sdwtravel.pdf
Does your method work on Sodium Flouride, PCB's, Anthrax, nanoaluminum, the urine of women taking birth cotrol pills, or other things too small to measure?
This information might have been good even 10 years ago; but the water supplies are being purposefully poisoned. Will it work on radionucleides?
If you want "injectable Standard" water (around 18 megohm-cm) and you've got access to plenty of electrical power - this will "remove" all the above - http://www.mastrad.com/hamawc4.jpg Aquamatic are a very good and reliable product incidentally. For "industrial" scale (i.e. small community) Poerner are an excellent manufacturer - much loved by the Pharmaceutical Industry - http://www.poerner.at/uploads/pics/KDL_PWP3_2008_06.jpg
Deep pockets? How about this - hardly portable but "does the job" very well indeed - http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mk6oJhHOZbC26C5LqX1TEcw.jpg, or for something smaller (bench - top) - http://www.labexchange.com/products/foto/24659.jpg
http://www.campsaver.com/hiker-microfilter?gclid=CKuHoPaqxsECFYI7Mgod0kAAKQ
I can use that info also...thanks!
Psychologically healthy too. I reccomend formal target shooting including range and wind estimation. shooting for score brings out competitiveness and it;s not true that it doesn't translate into "other" situations. it does.
Hard not to love an SKS.
Ironic isn't it. Decades ago the American Dad would have told his sons to practise shooting the Commies. Fighting Nazis or Russians, the "Cong" or the Japs.
Now we're teaching our sons and daughters to fight our own elite.
Don't you just love those statements? "Our interests" and retreating from "turf"
Whos fucking turf is it that are we retreating from?
Has it come down to pallets of hundred dollar bills to make our "allies" turn a blind eye to the bullshit out of Washington?
Who the fuck is Ariel Cohen, and why does his opinion matter?
Subsidized peice of shit...
You mean you don't want your kids to fight and die for Ariel Cohen? You must be one of them unAmerican Anti-Semites. Turn your TV back on and get properly indoctrinated.
Ariel Cohen needs you to save his bacon.
nein, mein Oberst; er ist ein jüdischer Schwierigkeiten-Schöpfer. [for colonel Klink]
You are right about it. Millenials are more or less a captured generation, though I have fortunately met some very notable exceptions. And the older folks are really just trying to ride it out, or are too scared about losing their dollarized assets.
Prototypical Eloi.
Patrician Funk...
Ever talk to a homeschooled "twenty something"? Might change your mind on the young.
The generalization on the "older folks" is flat out wrong. One's I have spoken to are extremely up to date about what is going on and plenty militant too.
Sad thing is, many of the sharpest, most knowledgeable 'senior seniors' are dead now. Life is too short; lessons are lost. The wisest, most conscientious person I've ever met was a 97 year old Austrian woman who died a couple years ago. Sharp as a tack to the end, she knew all about the bankers and revised history, and warned that "All the signs are there" [for resurgence of psychopaths and totalitarianism]. She had the best old books, too: weird esoteric stuff from her father. Her estranged daughter was a mean, greedy bitch who hired a crew to box everything up and take it to auction and the dump.
The majority of every segment in a population is sheeple, but I submit that the ratio swings to some extent. Rather than a healthier 80:20, right now we're seeing about 90:10 or worse, with handicapping by controlled education, food and acculturation, and of course bad money.
Too bad you could not have gotten some of those books.
It is one of my great regrets in this life - that, and not taking care to document some of her stories. Her husband was influential.
Does not matter what old heads think. It's going down and taking them.
Heheheh.....that's what you think.
Some of us "Geriatrics" have our own plans - http://newimages.yachtworld.com/resize/1/68/2/856802_0_030820101638_1.jpg?f=/1/68/2/856802_0_030820101638_1.jpg&w=600&h=398&t=1280882298000
ds, i have been thinking about that on an off. i'm 34.
thing is, were we much different when we were younger? i was always curious always reading, but it does in fact take time to learn about how the world works. not only because of the amount of stuff needed to be sorted through and read, but the time it takes to emotionally come to grips with why the world of media information is a hall of mirrors reflecting various lies and half truths.
how do you educate younger folks. to begin with you must first identify the ones that care and are curious. you are right that more and mreo people of yougner age are zombies. wehther their fault or not, it doesn't matter. there's no real hope for the zombies. you can only help educate someone that already is receptive or wants to educate themselves.
i will admit i think the time to teach people to CARE is when they are very very young, between the ages of 8 and 15 ----by the time they are 20 or older, it is largely too late. they either are self absorbed fucks , or they care about the world around them and have their eyes and ears open about things beyond their immediate social radius.
from an economic perspective ---the coming mass growth in social poverty is the thing that will agitate them, but it won't necessarily 'wake them up'. at that point they are like loaded guns. agitated young minds helpless and searching. by the time they are in a panic, it's too late to even begin educating people.
that is when the truly nefarious and clever demogogues come into take advantage of the masses looking for answers. selling every manner of answer to them. that type of pattern escalates rapidly in conjunction with poverty.
talking to open minded thoughtful young folks who are not entirely desperate , versus the future growing desperate angry mobs who would go right back to their phones and video games and pointless government paid hole-digging if they were paid the slave-wage----well. those are two very very separte activities, with different purposes and outcomes.
checkout the new 'dad' writer at libertyblitzkreig. i don't care for his writing, but his perspective is one that gives pause for thought. how to educate one's own child.
they got that sub lil man
Go Putin !!!!!!
Taking Children Seriously (TCS) is a parenting movement and educational philosophy whose central idea is that it is possible and desirable to raise and educate children without either doing anything to them against their will, or making them do anything against their will.
It was founded in 1994 as an email mailing-list by the libertarians Sarah Fitz-Claridge and David Deutsch. Deutsch is also a theoretical physicist at Oxford University.
TCS begins with the observation that most traditional interactions between adults and youth are based on coercion. The TCS model of parenting and education rejects this coercion as infringing on the will of the child, and also rejects parental or educator "self-sacrifice" as infringing on the will of the adult. TCS advocates that parents and children work to find a common preference, a solution all parties genuinely prefer to all other candidate solutions they can think of.
The TCS philosophy was inspired by the epistemology of Karl Popper. Popper was a professional educator himself before he started to do philosophy. In fact, philosophy was only a second option for him at that time, to be able to emigrate to escape the imminent Anschluss. He was active in the Wiener Schulreform (Vienna school reform) movement, and there are connections between the psychology of learning, on which he did his doctoral thesis, and his philosophy. However, as a philosopher, he did not advocate any concrete pedagogy, although he had some general views on the issue. TCS views Popper's epistemology, as Popper himself, as a universal theory of how knowledge grows, and tries to work out its profound implications for educational theory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taking_Children_Seriously
B.. bu.. but if you don't raise children on a steady diet of coercion, how will they learn to be good psychopaths?
All the other children will learn to suppress empathy and strengthen power and control techniques MUCH faster than your children. You know how kids are like sponges for that kind of stuff.
Your un-coerced children will grow to be weak and eventually victimized by all the other early-bloomer psychopaths. If you don't raise a master, you're raising a slave. Beatings and coercion will drive home the point to your child that others are put on this planet to serve them, as long as they attain enough power and control.
Ribbons, we must have ribbons!
Anusocracy -- Long before 1994, we had:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/178734.Summerhill
I read this book in college in the 60's. My son was born in 1972, and I put a lot of these ideas into practice. I am very proud to say, he is a remarkable man. A world champion athelete, he owns a dance company in Hollywood, traveled the world with Paul McCartney on the Driving Rain Tour, has movie, TV, and commercial credits, and much more. Best of all, however, he is just a great guy - a coach, teacher, mentor, and involved in making the world a better place. He was never spanked, never discouraged from trying anything, and our deal was that as long as he kept his grades up (honor society), he could chase his dreams. I never had 15 minutes of trouble with him, and today, even though we are on different coasts, we talk all the time and stay involved in each other's lives. Children come into this world in pure form. It's the parents and society in general the screw them up....but mostly the parents.
A quote from a reveiw on this site:
"This is a great book about a man who started an experimental school where children are treated as equals and freedom is the main objective. It's so hard to explain, and the book is old and dated, but there are some great ideas about child-rearing which also makes me think about how I treat my own friends and family and the children I get to hang out with. Read it knowing that it was written a long time ago and that some of the language and ideas are outdated. Otherwise, I love this book."
+ (n+1)
The book is a must read for every future and young parent, as it helps create healthy libertarian offspring.
Bonus: Summerhill is still active and it's run by AS Neill's daughter Zoe.
Tell me about it. I hear the crazy thing all the time. And "don't you just want to live your life and have fun? Why worry about all of this?" That coming from a baby boomer. Makes me lose a lot of respect for the older generation. Viagra is far more important than tomorrow...
Divided.... there's plenty of 50+ year-olds that are WELL AWARE of the situation and what must be done.
I'm glad you're on the right track though.
I am in the same age range and am usually 100% in alignment with your sentiments. But unfortunately the vast majority of Gen X'ers are just as passive and accepting of big government as the Millenials. So I'm being honest with myself I can say our age range is any better.
The simple fact is the Government has been able to use the petrodollar to keep everyone comfortable enough to not care. Once the petrodollar falls and the free money stops flowing, it will all change.
And the next generation of millenials are in many ways less trusting of the government than not just the boomers but also us Gen X'ers. They are the digital generation and they look at what the NSA, etc are doing in disgust, and generally are more in favor of technologies like bitcoin that are counter establishment. Once the free money stops flowing I think their mindset will then look at the government for what it is, a monster that exists to enrich insiders at everyone else's expense.
I agree completely. People think the digital generation is hopelessly distracted by technology, and that's true to a certain extent. But there also seems to be a growing awareness with them that something is messed up. I've noticed it with plenty of kids other than my own. And when the interest in technology gets combined with distrust in the system, it makes something powerful.
I think the kids right now who are around 15 and under will grow up to be one hell of a problem for the status quo. At least that's what I'm raising mine to be. Probably why the powers-that-be seem to be trying so hard to start a world war. Need to get rid of the potential troublemakers.
Agreed and that is some of what I see. 20 somethings are becoming more anti-establishment and non-conformist.
The danger in that is that they are also easily radicallaized and the messaging that they continue to receive is heavily lib, anti-capitalist, divisive sectarian bullshit. They are increasily angry as they can tell they have been shafted but are not sure what to be angry at. I am not sure the pendulum has stopped swinging and we still have a world of hurt to go through.
heh, when I was in my twenties the word was, "never trust anyone over thirty." I guess you had to be there.
You should change your user name to "Precious Snowflake". Generalize much? You are painting with an awfully large brush when you condemn multiple generations. Methinks you have embraced a heap of that American Exceptionalism with your "we are the only ones" nonsense. And pray tell what is your rational, logical and moral solution?
True change comes in and needs to include all shapes and sizes and genders and ages.
I get annoyed with the Baby Boomer blame game. I may be one but I've never boomed but only worked crappier upon crappier jobs, paid my bills, never took a handout, originated and paid off a mortgage and saved for retirement that was continually erroded by bubble after bubble all on what amounts to be the average income.
Putin sings about Obama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOiDm99JEHo
"PUTIN SAYS MANY COUNTRIES DISENCHANTED W/ GLOBALIZATION: PUTIN"
Deptartment of redundancy department
"As well, I am in my 30s....and fellow 30 - 40 year old people on ZH, you know what? DONT expect anybody under 20 to give a shit to whats going on, they were brought up oblivious to MSM and ideals that are useless (like getting the newest iPhone) and people over 50 are too old to give a shit....so its up to us to fight for what we believe in and what is right."
Only one big problem....at least 2/3rds of your group are fatter than hell and couldn´t run pace with a yorkie for more than 50 feet without being winded.
Im 29, and haing attended Ron Paul's campaign for liberty earlier this year, I can tell you that not all young people are as hopelessly self absorbed as you might think. There were a ton of young people, college age kids that paid 50$ to attend the weekend of speeches, most all of them there pretty much just to hear RP speak in person. It was well worth the money, and it is refreshing to see so many college kids waking up to what is being doen to them.
I'm probably wrong, Carl- I actually hope I am, but everything the Ron Paul thing does asks for cash.
Remember the 'money bomb'? RP collected a one-day record for campaign contributions, no?
What did RP actually do, in response?
He quit the campaign! Fuck all these assholes who pretend to 'defend liberty', RP included.
His son Rand is not even worth my attention.
Lots of you may call blasphemy, but it's the fuckin' truth.
Excuse me, I am 61 and I still give a shit. A lot if it, if necessary, and a lot more than when I was 35 ( was working like hell then and had no time to follow the news ). But you are right when saying that most people ( of whatever age ) are too dumb to understand the MSM is bullshitting them 24/7/365.
I'm right with you Bro. I've talked with people that didn't even know what Ebola was. People just don't give a shit these days. They are too busy working to pay off there massive debts, or living off the system smokin pot and workin under the table. Even my dad who used to be up to date on all this shit and even opened my eyes to it at an early age just doesn't care anymore, he's 65
I'm over 50 and I give a shit! Don't think you and your age group are the 'only ones'. That is a trap believe me. The younger guys probably DO care but they neither understand what is happening and find it hard to explain what they see.
There are plenty of older people who care. They also have the necessary ability to have seen this all before unlike you. We saw it all during Vietnam and Ukraine is going to be your Vietnam. Will you, and your friends march in the street in protest? because my hip is fucked!
As a doctor I talk to about 20 (mostly old farts) and they are aware of what is happening. Even some of my African American patients are looking for cover from the fall-out that is BHO. Most people see the obvious changes for the worse. They know the government is all lies and the data is bad. They don't keep up like a ZHer does but the gut tells them something is wrong.
Also this month the FDA and other gov orgs made new rules regarding a common pain med. It is a HUGE inconvenience with NO benefit. They see the arbitrary and arrogant nature of they way they rule. Most people, while not well informed are not pleased.
I don't know how it will come out in the elections but if this one doesn't move the needle then the needle will never be moved. After that we will see complete dependence on government for what is becoming a helpless mass of citizens.
Would that be Oxycodone? "Down Under" the regulatory authorities are getting very strict on supply of both the immediate release formulations (Endone / OxyNorm), and the modified release formulations (OxyContin, Targin), owing to diversion, and basic safety problems.
LOTS of abuse, and lots of "unforeseen" consequences, especially in the falls-prone, already over-medicated elderly population ("slips & trips = Broken Hips")
actually, i find the "old farts" quite educated, (not all of course), but i have more conversation with a couple ppl at work who are in their 60's then all the younger ones... We have discussions all the time about the federal reserve, what a joke the stock market is etc...
Hi Divided states - so people over 50, who clearly seem ancient to you, are too old to give a shit? Really? You've got a monopoly on giving a shit, do you?
But then a lot of people in their thirties are still young enough not to realize when they're sounding stupid, so you're forgiven.
If you are really trying to open the minds of people around you, you might want to re-consider your rhetorical strategy.
the problem with stirring shit is that someone eventually makes you lick the spoon
Well..., I'm 60 and I give a shit. You are somewhat correct when you say that Putin is one of only a very few world leaders making any sense. There are others but they're few and far between. How can you tell which ones they are - they're the ones that are being demonized/marginalized.
As far as America is concerned - your only hope is that things go south before Hillary gets elected. Maybe, just maybe a Phoenix will rise from the ashes.
"... people over 50 are too old to give a shit..."
Good that we have the 30 - 40 year olds, like you, to enlighten us.
@ Divided- I am over 50 and I can tell you there are a LOT of +50 people that are waking up. Obviously the majority are just getting by, are super involved with their missionary duties at church functions or are too busy at work to pay for their kids college loans and them returning to eat them out of house and home.
Divided States, will have to disagree on the over 50 age grop. I talk to a large group, 50-80 and they are very aware of what is gong on. Most do not watch the TV but get their news and info from the computer, not Ipads or cell phones. A lot of them read ZH so that in and of itself should tell you something. When it hits the fan this age group are very well prepared for whatever it takes. Most all of them are out of the market investing in PM's and a way to protect it. Most could sustain themselves for a lengthy period of time without any assistance. Think again and maybe get to know these old farts
Dont be so ageist. There are stupid people in every age group - including those in their 30s, and smart people of every age. We need people of all ages to wake up to the lies and brainwashing of the MSM.
Divided, I don't think I've ever replied to you, however I have noted your fiery spirit. Bravo!
I gotta ask you- You know Gerald Celente (b. 1946)? How about Paul Craig Roberts (b. 1939)?
Then there's Pepe Escobar (b. 1954), do you actually consider yourself more enlightened and 'radical' than these men?
I'm easily old enough (b.1957) to be your father and I can state without reservation that there have always been patriots among us.
Please don't take this as a rebuke, and know that the examples I listed are just the first ones who popped into my head.
I wouldn'ta said anything, but I've seen quite a few age-discrimatory post like yours on here lately.
Hey guys, I DO NOT discriminate against people older than 50 and honestly I am more worried about the younger generation than the rest of us. But my point is that the 30-40 or maybe even the 30-50 age group maybe the last generation of folks who not just have the mind but the physical power to actually do something about this fucked up world. I have actually been keeping fit the last few years and in the best shape of my life in preparation of shtf moment so whoever said people over 30 arent physically capable is a load of crap.
I also agree that it is true that in order for anything to change, people over 50 who realize that something is wrong, needs to be very much involved with helping these younger ones who are cognizant of the current affairs to do something about it, maybe what is happening in HK is a good example, though lets not get sidetracked here. Raising the young ones the right way is the least you old folks can do.
My apologies for looking like I think the older generation is clueless and dont give a shit...maybe i could have worded it better...but older folks like my parents actually just tells me to stop worrying about things you cant control....actually a lot of older people think like that and most of the older people I know dont even know ZH so of course you older folks who DO read ZH are aware of whats going on in this world, that doesnt mean that most old folks give a shit. But kudos to you guys here.
Ok DS - your kinda apology accepted. However I am certain that there are a lot of people over 50 whose physical and mental energy are quite sufficient to kick your ass so in the future why not try to make allies rather than spouting ageist bullshit.
Seriously - I'm happy there are people like you in their 30's. For a while there I was worried.
Thanks, but that's not what I'm asking you. You don't yet even realize what the folks I've mentioned and the innumerable folks that even I don't know, have done to get you to where you're at.
In the spirit of Thomas Paine and Ayn Rand I leave to your own devices.
Hey ace, in respect of you older folks, I will respond to all those who want me to on an individual basis. Anyways, I have heard of those men you spoke of BUT i have come to the realizations of this world, mostly on my own and with the help of others like you on ZH. Anyhow, yes, I agree that we like minded people should work together for the greater good, regardless of age. I dont know if you ever read my posts but you should know I dont back down to confrontation BUT honestly, I mean no disrespect to you older folks who ARE doing something about this. I applaud all of you.
btw, americanspirits, if you kick my ass, its because I let you...again in respect to you older folks who share the same ideology with me, but if we werent on the same wavelength, the outcome maybe completely different.
No, fuck you and your screening system. You will ABSOLUTELY NOT decide who you will debate with and who will challenge your infantile understanding of the world as it is.
The answer is NO! Do you hear me?
You and your sponsors thought you could control this medium. Think again.
And, fuck off!
hey dude, whats your fuckin problem. you typing this from a senior home??? Maybe you should ring the nurse to give you your meds.
You see? You still have your age phobic blinders on. Trust me shithead, I do not now, nor will I ever 'need' your response.
You think have it all figured out, and all that needs to happen is for everyone else to follow your lead. Fuck you!
You follow your path, I'll follow mine. If we should meet, use caution, I can smell bullshit a mile away.
Wow, i hope u dont raise your kids like how you responded back to me. I dont need ppl to follow my lead, everyone should figure things out for themselves. Anyways, im done wasting my time with a stubborn person like yourself.
Yeah, invoke the final option, threaten men's children. Did I already say fuck you?
My children know you, you are fucked.
Divided States: We are the only ones who were brought up at a time that allows us to think rationally, logically and morally to make a statement in this fucked up society.
Thanks. I needed the comic relief. btw, your age group is fucked.
Wow im surprised that i got so much heat for my post. Anyhow, we as a society wouldnt be at this stage if the social degradation at every generation level wasnt getting more and more apparent, thanks in part to the environment we are being subjected to.
If our generation is fucked up is because your generation didnt know better either. Most of the fucked up kids nowadays are the results of the older generation. Im not married yet so i dont have the opportunity to raise kids yet but i plan to do it right, like most of the older zh posters here. My point is there is a major drop off from our generation to the younger ones nowadays that ppl age 30 to 40 is the most crucial in turning things around.
Anyways, im done with this topic, there are ppl at every age group that is aware of whats happening but a majority of those whom are in our age group is the last generation make a stand on rebuilding society, because we dont expect all of the older folks to be around.
Despite my gentle prod (ie, attempt to motivate you to go beyond banalities), you remain remoreselessly non-specific, DS. To close our tete-a-tete, I grade you indeterminate.
Divided States is a particularly twisted individual. He/she is the best that the information police have to offer- In short, they have nothing!
I started my awkening process 4 years ago, and got really into it the last 2 years. I am 24 now. The age thing is not a huge factor. I think there are plenty of awake people from all age ranges. Your comment does ring some truth, do not lose too much in the younger generation because it is the one to make the change eventually or live with the consequences.
I am aroused.
explain the tribe? who are they?
The one's currently doing the financial scalping.
kito....i dont consider you a part of the tribe....you can always shack at my place when the shtf. I will keep you safe.
thanks DS. appreciated. good to know im not lumped in with bernanke and soros.......remember there are plenty of jews getting f-cked over by the jews that give us jews a bad name :)
Stopped by to give you a green on the sentiment.
I hate the portion of any population that wants government.
Really,can you fight..with a rifle or are you just a pussy with an anus fixation with authority issues,lol your a weak bitch anus boy
Guess you're too stupid to understand the Art of War.
pretty sure my dentist isn't in on the Global Zionist Conspiracy either, Kito.
You guys should hang out and play Rock Band or something.
;op
Who are you?
We here are at ZH are currently infected with trolls who's job is to constantly spread disinfo about who is running things in the world. By tribe they inferring that the conspiracy that runs the world is Jewish in nature, there by deflecting the blame from the true culprits.
There is a conspiracy, but it Luciferan/Satanic in nature. Other good terms to describe them are Banksters, Oligarchs, or Globalist.
While some like the Bushes may publicly say they are one religion, like Episcopalian in this case, they are actually Luciferian Illuminati.
It is really important that if it ever comes that the pitchforks and torches are directed at the right people.
SMG - My pitchfork will only come out in support one critical cause, the restoration of who issues the currency. Whoever controls the currency, controls the lawmakers. That is the only way I will ever have national input on the bus of life. Right now the busdriver is tonedeaf because he controls the currency. Restore national currency issuance, America can restore the Republic.
If this cannot happen then checking out like the Soviets did until collapse is the only option. I respect Putin for one reason, his statements that Stalin was misguided. Police states destroy confidence. Our American version kills mine.
Being the reserve currency turns into a curse, with the role comes being global policeman and projection of such power at extremis turns a nation into what it projects
As a Gen X'er our theme song seems to be R.E.M. "Its the end of the world and I feel fine."
The world as we knew if is ending, but it won't remain dark forever. In general, I am an optimist about where our species is evolving to and it seems we are near the end of our evolution. Big walls to climb over are part of that evolution and being near the end this a larger wall to climb then perhaps some time periods but we will collectively scale it nonetheless.
A toast to people of all nations, to you Russians this Friday eve from an American who was taught to hate but now have learned better!
We here are at ZH are currently infected with trolls who's job is to constantly spread disinfo about who is running things in the world. By tribe they inferring that the conspiracy that runs the world is Jewish in nature, there by deflecting the blame from the true culprits.
There is a conspiracy, but it Luciferan/Satanic in nature. Other good terms to describe them are Banksters, Oligarchs, or Globalist.
While some like the Bushes may publicly say they are one religion, like Episcopalian in this case, they are actually Luciferian Illuminati.
It is really important that if it ever comes that the pitchforks and torches are directed at the right people.
I'm on board with not conflating "the Jews" with an evil cabal running the world, but are you serious with this "Luciferian/Satanic" nonsense?
The world's elite are not worshipping Satan - that icon of myth. Satan, or Lucifer, is not real, and, by the way, most Gnostics are not "luciferian" even if they believe, gnostically, that Yahweh is the demiurge....
No - the "Luciferian" thing is basically gatekeeping, asking people to ignore the quite obvious fact that Jews are very disproportionately amongst the world's wealthiest, and that political Zionism has virtually hijacked US and to an extent UK and Canadian foreign policy.
far and away the wealthiest, most politically and eocnomically powerful ethnic or religious group in the country.
But also the Eternal Victim - and hence above any criticism.
With about 10,000 organizations dedicated to using american blood and treasure to assist the "Jewish State" finish its theft of Arab land and implement the Oded Yinon Plan, and to preserving, protecting and hiding wildly disproportionate Jewish power, money and influence by accusing everyone who wants to put American interests first, or who notes that Hollywood isn't very "diverse" - of being an "anti-Semite" though by far, most of the actual semites killed in the past 50 years have been Arabs killed by US or Israeli bombs.
Got it?
The Anti-Defamation League: Covering Up Racism and Israeli War Crimes For Nearly A CenturyI thought everyone loved the chosen people. Just ask any Romans, Euro-paeans, or Nazis.
I suspect they have a nuke up their sleeve. Google what Cheney and BHO have said lately. They're, once again, essentially promising one in Manhattan. It's perfect cover for the missing gold at the FED.