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Another Deutsche Banker And Former SEC Enforcement Attorney Commits Suicide

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Back on January 26, a 58-year-old former senior executive at German investment bank behemoth Deutsche Bank, William Broeksmit, was found dead after hanging himself at his London home, and with that, set off an unprecedented series of banker suicides throughout the year which included former Fed officials and numerous JPMorgan traders.

Following a brief late summer spell in which there was little if any news of bankers taking their lives, as reported previously, the banker suicides returned with a bang when none other than the hedge fund partner of infamous former IMF head Dominique Strauss-Khan, Thierry Leyne, a French-Israeli entrepreneur, was found dead after jumping off the 23rd floor of one of the Yoo towers, a prestigious residential complex in Tel Aviv. 

Just a few brief hours later the WSJ reported that yet another Deutsche Bank veteran has committed suicide, and not just anyone but the bank's associate general counsel, 41 year old Calogero "Charlie" Gambino, who was found on the morning of Oct. 20, having also hung himself by the neck from a stairway banister, which according to the New York Police Department was the cause of death. We assume that any relationship to the famous Italian family carrying that last name is purely accidental.

Here is his bio from a recent conference which he attended:

Charlie J. Gambino is a Managing Director and Associate General Counsel in the Regulatory, Litigation and Internal Investigation group for Deutsche Bank in the Americas. Mr. Gambino served as a staff attorney in the United Securities and Exchange Commission’s Division of Enforcement from 1997 to 1999. He also was associated with the law firm of Skadden, Arps, Slate Meagher & Flom from 1999 to 2003. He is a frequent speaker at securities law conferences. Mr. Gambino is a member of the American Bar Association and the Association of the Bar of the City of New York.

As a reminder, the other Deutsche Bank-er who was found dead earlier in the year, William Broeksmit, was involved in the bank's risk function and advised the firm's senior leadership; he was "anxious about various authorities investigating areas of the bank where he worked," according to written evidence from his psychologist, given Tuesday at an inquest at London's Royal Courts of Justice. And now that an almost identical suicide by hanging has taken place at Europe's most systemically important bank, and by a person who worked in a nearly identical function - to shield the bank from regulators and prosecutors and cover up its allegedly illegal activities with settlements and fines - is surely bound to raise many questions. 

The WSJ reports that Mr. Gambino had been "closely involved in negotiating legal issues for Deutsche Bank, including the prolonged probe into manipulation of the London interbank offered rate, or Libor, and ongoing investigations into manipulation of currencies markets, according to people familiar with his role at the bank."

He previously was an associate at a private law firm and a regulatory enforcement lawyer from 1997 to 1999, according to his online LinkedIn profile and biographies for conferences where he spoke. But most notably, as his LinkedIn profile below shows, like many other Wall Street revolving door regulators, he started his career at the SEC itself where he worked from 1997 to 1999.

"Charlie was a beloved and respected colleague who we will miss. Our thoughts and sympathy are with his friends and family,” Deutsche Bank said in a statement.

Going back to the previous suicide by a DB executive, the bank said at the time of the inquest that Mr. Broeksmit “was not under suspicion of wrongdoing in any matter.” At the time of Mr. Broeksmit’s death, Deutsche Bank executives sent a memo to bank staff saying Mr. Broeksmit “was considered by many of his peers to be among the finest minds in the fields of risk and capital management.” Mr. Broeksmit had left a senior role at Deutsche Bank’s investment bank in February 2013, but he remained an adviser until the end of 2013. His most recent title was the investment bank’s head of capital and risk-optimization, which included evaluating risks related to complicated transactions.

A thread connecting Broeksmit to wrongdoing, however, was uncovered earlier this summer when Wall Street on Parade referenced his name in relation to the notorious at the time strategy provided by Deutsche Bank and others to allow hedge funds to avoid paying short-term capital gains taxes known as MAPS (see How RenTec Made More Than $34 Billion In Profits Since 1998: "Fictional Derivatives")

From Wall Street on Parade:

Broeksmit’s name first emerged in yesterday’s Senate hearing as Senator Carl Levin, Chair of the Subcommittee, was questioning Satish Ramakrishna, the Global Head of Risk and Pricing for Global Prime Finance at Deutsche Bank Securities in New York. Ramakrishna was downplaying his knowledge of conversations about how the scheme was about changing short term gains into long term gains, denying that he had been privy to any conversations on the matter. 

 

Levin than asked: “Did you ever have conversations with a man named Broeksmit?” Ramakrishna conceded that he had and that the fact that the scheme had a tax benefit had emerged in that conversation. Ramakrishna could hardly deny this as Levin had just released a November 7, 2008 transcript of a conversation between Ramakrishna and Broeksmit where the tax benefit had been acknowledged.

 

Another exhibit released by Levin was an August 25, 2009 email from William Broeksmit to Anshu Jain, with a cc to Ramakrishna, where Broeksmit went into copious detail on exactly what the scheme, internally called MAPS, made possible for the bank and for its client, the Renaissance Technologies hedge fund. (See Email from William Broeksmit to Anshu Jain, Released by the U.S. Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations.)

 

At one point in the two-page email, Broeksmit reveals the massive risk the bank is taking on, writing: “Size of portfolio tends to be between $8 and $12 billion long and same amount of short. Maximum allowed usage is $16 billion x $16 billion, though this has never been approached.”

 

Broeksmit goes on to say that most of Deutsche’s money from the scheme “is actually made by lending them specials that we have on inventory and they pay far above the regular rates for that.”

It would appear that with just months until the regulatory crackdown and Congressional kangaroo circus, Broeksmit knew what was about to pass and being deeply implicated in such a scheme, preferred to take the painless way out.

The question then is just what major regulatory revelation is just over the horizon for Deutsche Bank if yet another banker had to take his life to avoid being cross-examined by Congress under oath? For a hint we go back to another report, this time by the FT, which yesterday noted that Deutsche Bank will set aside just under €1bn towards the numerous legal and regulatory issues it faces in its third quarter results next week, the bank confirmed on Friday.

In a statement made after the close of markets, the Frankfurt-based lender said it expected to publish litigation costs of €894m when it announces its results for the July-September period on October 29.

 

The extra cash will add to Deutsche's already sizeable litigation pot, where the bank has yet to be fined in connection with the London interbank rate-rigging scandal.

 

It is also facing fines from US authorities over alleged mortgage-backed securities misselling and sanctions violations, which have already seen rivals hit with heavy fines.

 

Deutsche has also warned that damage from global investigations into whether traders attempted to manipulate the foreign-exchange market could have a material impact on the bank.

 

The extra charge announced on Friday will bring Deutsche's total litigation reserves to €3.1bn. The bank also has an extra €3.2bn in so-called contingent liabilities for fines that are harder to estimate. 

Clearly Deutsche Bank is slowly becoming Europe's own JPMorgan - a criminal bank whose past is finally catching up to it, and where legal fine after legal fine are only now starting to slam the banking behemoth. We will find out just what the nature of the latest litigation charge is next week when Deutsche Bank reports, but one thing is clear: in addition to mortgage, Libor and FX settlements, one should also add gold. Recall from around the time when the first DB banker hung himself: it was then that Elke Koenig, the president of Germany's top financial regulator, Bafin, said that in addition to currency rates, manipulation of precious metals "is worse than the Libor-rigging scandal."

It remains to be seen if Calogero's death was also related to precious metals rigging although it certainly would not be surprising. What is surprising, is that slowly things are starting to fall apart at the one bank which as we won't tire of highlighting, has a bigger pyramid of notional derivatives on its balance sheet than even JPMorgan, amounting to 20 times more than the GDP of Germany itself, and where if any internal investigation ever goes to the very top, then Europe itself, and thus the world, would be in jeopardy.

At this point it is probably worth reminding to what great lengths regulators would go just to make sure that Deutsche Bank would never be dragged into a major litigation scandal: recall that the chief enforcer of the SEC during the most critical period following the great crash of 2008, Robert Khuzami, worked previously from 2002 to 2009 at, drumroll, Deutsche Bank most recently as its General Counsel (see "Robert Khuzami Stands To Lose Up To $250,000 If He Pursues Action Against Deutsche Bank" and "Circle Jerk 101: The SEC's Robert Khuzami Oversaw Deutsche Bank's CDO, Has Recused Himself Of DB-Related Matters"). The same Khuzami who just landed a $5 million per year contract (with a 2 year guarantee) with yet another "law firm", Kirkland and Ellis. One wonders: if and when the hammer falls on Deutsche Bank, will it perchance be defended by the same K&E and its latest prominent hire, Robert Khuzami himself?       

But usually it is best to just avoid litigation altogether. Which is why perhaps sometimes it is easiest if the weakest links, those whose knowledge can implicate the people all the way at the top, quietly commit suicide in the middle of the night... 

 

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Sat, 10/25/2014 - 10:55 | 5376087 kowalli
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dead like a dollar.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 10:55 | 5376094 Midas
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Gambino....Gambino.... Why does that name sound familiar?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:00 | 5376105 Son of Loki
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We'll miss Charlie.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:08 | 5376125 X.inf.capt
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Being unloyal to the "family" has consquences...

the family of the house of rothchilds...

sure isnt a save time to be member of TPTB...

Billionares, politicians, bankers...sure seen to be 'accident prone'...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:13 | 5376149 Ralph Spoilsport
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This guy was either considered a potential prosecution witness or somebody wanted his office with a view. Either way life is cheap.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:21 | 5376162 SWRichmond
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Whistleblower Protection Team

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:24 | 5376169 J S Bach
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One has to wonder whether these criminal usurers who commit suicide are either terrified of a Frank Nitti creeping up behind them... or if they actually have a tinge of a conscience.  (I vote for the former.)

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:24 | 5376175 Headbanger
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Insanity is as insanity does....

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:28 | 5376188 y3maxx
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...These are not suicides.

To find the perpetrator of these murders....look at the top of list of who was screwed the most by Deutsche Bank.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:35 | 5376217 Urban Redneck
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nominally or relatively screwed?

The poor huddled masses yearning to breathe freely and escape enslavement by the FRBNY, while arguably having the most motive (other than their overseas brethren), had the least means and opportunity.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:38 | 5376225 gafgroocK
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Jeez, it must be more depressing to be a Banker than a Dentist?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:40 | 5376234 Publicus
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Suicided.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:02 | 5376295 jbvtme
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whatever is bugging these bankers, i wish the politicians would catch it.  imagine if you woke up tomorrow and you learned that pelosi or hillary had comitted suicide.  the sun couldn't shine brighter

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:34 | 5376368 TruthInSunshine
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All these guys being suicided know where the bodies are buried.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:52 | 5376406 Save_America1st
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Gambino????   the fucking banksters really are the mafia...

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:05 | 5376443 remain calm
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What no snow plow available

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:14 | 5376468 Arius
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Clearly Deutsche Bank is slowly becoming Europe's own JPMorgan

 

Sorry Tyler, but the owners of Deutche Bank would never allow it, the germans have seen worse with hyperinflation and will be very very careful.... thats my take anyway

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:20 | 5376488 knukles
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It's not personal.  It's business.

Seemingly fits, no?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:44 | 5376544 Richard Chesler
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I find it hard to believe these thieving scum bags all of a sudden develop a conscience.

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:15 | 5376643 BaBaBouy
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PANICK .................. Bitchez...

ALL The Purported GOLD Is GONE...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 16:57 | 5377006 mjcOH1
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"Gambino....Gambino.... Why does that name sound familiar?"

I believe you're confusing him with one of : Carlo Gambino, Thomas Gambino, Paolo Gambino, John Gambino, or Gaspare Gambino.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Gambino

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Gambino

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gambino

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 21:36 | 5377766 philipat
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Jump you fuckers...

PS. Being an Enforcement attorney for The SEC must be a very easy job??

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 08:46 | 5378826 GetZeeGold
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Alas....there can only be one Fuddy.

 

Sucks cause she survived the plane crash....but she didn't make it out of the water.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 10:24 | 5379038 disabledvet
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Time and place of their choosing.

There is no way this wasn't only a murder but meant to be seen as intensely person...as if to say to an entire people....

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 06:11 | 5381379 boogerbently
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Another douche banker....

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:45 | 5376546 COSMOS
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You know its getting serious when members of the tribe get suicided.  I assume he survived the fall but was killed when run over by a snow clearing machine in Sunny Tel Aviv, and with his last few gasps the used the nailgun he was clutching to staple himself dead a few dozen times.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 17:50 | 5377177 Spigot
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assisted suicide is becoming popular again

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:49 | 5376565 ebear
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"the germans have seen worse with hyperinflation and will be very very careful"

Really?   Then why enter a currency union with Greece, not to mention Spain, Italy, Portugal and France?

No one living today has any direct memory of the Weimar Inflation.  it's just something they've read in the history books, and as we all know, history tends to repeat.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:03 | 5376605 Arius
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thats because people wanted it.

 

it is the same as in the US where we the people voted and elected Obama and now many have second thoughts about it, but it is too late

 

It is all about the votes and what the people want

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 10:28 | 5379048 disabledvet
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So now we get Ebola because?

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 14:26 | 5379677 Tall Tom
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Congratulations on the least thought out post of the day. If voting actually changed public policy then you can be certain that it would be banned.

 

LMAO.

 

BTW...Most people, including you, only really want their enslavement.

 

Other than that they have not a clue about what they want as they are as much of a zombie as yourself.

 

Thanks for being a target of far away laughter. See...You actually do add some value.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:37 | 5376695 mrdenis
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sorry sir ...the nail-guns are all rented for the weekend ......

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:55 | 5376749 auntiesocial
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he hit himself with a hammer 17 times... ruled suicide. 

sounds more like a little spring cleaning to me... but what do I know?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:43 | 5376537 BlindMonkey
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Reid. Harry Reid as my number one suicided hopeful. McStain a very close second.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:42 | 5376705 Nobody For President
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Blind Monkey, your bi-partisan stance is oomendable...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 15:34 | 5376847 Kirk2NCC1701
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"whatever is bugging these bankers, i wish the politicians would catch it"

Funny how certain forms of Schadenfreude or sense of Natural Justice is so catchy.  [Hatchoo!]

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:21 | 5376339 Anusocracy
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Eraseola Disease.

His knowledge of the criminal banking industry is gone.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:37 | 5376523 max2205
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REDRUM

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:37 | 5376379 awakeRewe
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Were any nails found at the crime scene?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:44 | 5376543 BlindMonkey
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They use ice nails when they really want it quiet. Untraceable.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:47 | 5376553 COSMOS
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He fell on a nail bed that a practicing Yogi had inadvertantly left below the guy's balcony.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:44 | 5376241 kaiserhoff
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Anyone remember Vince Foster's "suicide."

  Hillary..., anyone?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:10 | 5376311 FeralSerf
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I remember it well. It was a very sloppy one too, one that Vince(?) and/OR his "helpers" need not be very proud of.

But then again, there were many things the Clintons were involved in that they shouldn't brag too much about. There will probably be some more too.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 17:07 | 5377070 Bastiat
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Hilary must have lost her political perspective from pure sociopathic homicidal giddiness  when she bragged openly and mockingly about assassinating Gaddafi.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:30 | 5376510 knukles
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Kaiser, that suicide was so fucked up, nothing fit as a suicide and sloppy job, were you not meaning to ask "Hilarity" anyone?
You know, position of the gun, etc., etc., etc.....

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:46 | 5376550 BlindMonkey
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I can't wait for President Hillary. Her body count should be extraordinary. I am thinking she might want to take a run at Uncle Joe's record of 25 million.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:50 | 5376566 Ralph Spoilsport
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Foster had just returned from Switzerland with bank instruments related to the Wanta money. Yeah, it's getting re-remembered finally.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:43 | 5376710 knukles
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Wait till she's the candidate if full regalia.  Reptilians ahoy!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:51 | 5376734 Ralph Spoilsport
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Won't be many shoes thrown at her either.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:37 | 5376218 Theta_Burn
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The American people?

na.. just multi-millionaires with nothing to live for...

 

 

weak-link>evidence...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:26 | 5376349 The Big Ching-aso
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Mario Puzo woulda had a field day, and Francis Ford Coppola woulda done another sequel......

The Godfather Bankers.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:18 | 5376481 Antifaschistische
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I have another perspective....my thought is look for the guy who has the most to lose if this guy talked!!

I think this was prevention....not retaliation.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:31 | 5376511 AgShaman
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If you cannot provide any witness' to establish criminality.....

Then let the rinse and repeat commence

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:42 | 5376706 Payne
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These guys are not going to talk, they know how corrupt the system is,  they would never have a life afterwards.

They would also never commit suicide, too much ego, there is always another bailout.

They could defect, China or Russia.  How is Snowden doing ?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:27 | 5376179 X.inf.capt
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the TPTB seem to be consolidating power..

shaking out the those who may give them trouble later...

the BIS is known for being ruthless...who else who finance both sides of a war...for profit..

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:32 | 5376206 SWRichmond
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They do not value any lives other than their own.  IOW, sociopaths.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:20 | 5376332 Bananamerican
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Some may have been suicide but whoever is doing the killing (Russians, Israelis, Occult TPTB) they have good Intelligence capabilities and a sense of "untouchability"

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:24 | 5376341 X.inf.capt
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russia, israel, and the U.S....

all members of the BIS...all are attack pieces on the chess board...

thats pretty 'untouchable'...

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:27 | 5376359 insanelysane
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With elections they say it doesn't matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes.

With these murders, I mean suicides, it doesn't matter how you die, it matters who does the "investigation."  See suicides with multiple gun shots to the head.  See hanging while bound.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:24 | 5376495 knukles
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Oh and don't forget the guy found hanging from underneath the Blackfriars Bridge's superstructure.... Kinda hard place to get to to commit anything.
Or the other chap in London whose death was ruled a suicide by the MetPolice (ah hem MI5 and 6 mayhaps, but certainly somebody taking care of Her Majesty's "problems") when he was found cut up in pieces, stabbed to death, bound and in a duffel bag that had been padlocked shut

 

Seriously.....

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:49 | 5376560 BlindMonkey
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I googled it and didn't find any hits. You got a link?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:06 | 5376620 zerozulu
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As long as a banker keeps his mouth shut and nail gun away, no problem.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:46 | 5376721 Freddie
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Blackfriars Bridge was a Vatican banker named Robert something.  Robert Calvi (?).  He was trying to hide out in London to try to fix the problem.  Bad move.  Good documentary on youtube.

The Mi6 guy was a nerk in London who was stuffed in a duffle bag.  I think he was in cryptology.  They tried to roll out a gay angle as a misdirection.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:48 | 5376722 IrritableBowels
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I think he's referring to a Gareth Williams, MI6 agent. Blamed on a potential bondage mishap.

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 21:03 | 5377668 BlindMonkey
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Damn. Since it has been proven that somebody can padlock that from inside the duffle it is obviously a suicide. Insane.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:36 | 5376692 SILVERGEDDON
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I wonder how many of these " suicides " are voluntary, and how many are " assisted suicides " ?

Meh, who gives a fuck.

Either way, one less bottom feeding bank parasite Klingon from Uranus to support. 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 16:23 | 5376973 IndyPat
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Bottom feeder?
Better check his CV again, brother.
And flush your headgear on this part, too...

These bankers we keep seeing accidentally getting dead are THE GOOD ones. The ones we DON'T want dead. These are the ones that know where the bear shit in the buckwheat and have a map to it. The ones you would want on the...ahem...prosecution side of the RICO case.

So...I'd hold back on the applause.

The only ones you celebrate are the ones hung after a speedy trial. Or the ones off to Rickers for an o-ring resizing.

Has anyone ever tallied up a spreadsheet of these deaths post 2007? I'd really like to see it. Maybe I'll compile one.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:25 | 5378152 Freddie
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Exactly!   I was thinking the same one.  The ones being murdered are the ones with consciences who might talk and implicate the people involved in the crimes.   Anyone of us could have had a job like this and fallen into this nightmare. 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:18 | 5376155 Escrava Isaura
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Why are some people surprised about human weakness?

 

It looks like, starting in 2009/2010, suicide killed more people in the US than car accidents.

 

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/suicide.htm

 

http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx

 

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:34 | 5376209 ZH Snob
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I gotta know, escrava, are you a paid troll or just willfully ignorant?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 15:42 | 5376875 Bay of Pigs
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Apparently both.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 17:55 | 5377185 Spigot
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Does a very good imitation of a latina bubble head, eh?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:37 | 5376223 Karaio
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@ Slave Isaura: 

You're the Muse of Zero Hedge! * 

:-) 

* All about the meaning of "Musa" is like an Egyptian Goddess, exudes an air spring again, takes a bit of musty stale so many men commenting on ZH. Just do not compare you with Banzai because he think - rightly - that would be calling a fagot. In fact, you and Banzai are two people who give a milder climate in this war that is a box of Blog.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:22 | 5376340 Bananamerican
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Karaio, promise me you'll never learn English!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:48 | 5376398 Escrava Isaura
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Bananamerican

And it would be nice if you could learn.

It’s just an idea. Hoping I am not asking too much.

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:41 | 5376531 max2205
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Can I finally get some interest on my savings account please

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:48 | 5376557 COSMOS
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Karaio and Escreament are both Brazilians

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:33 | 5376687 Ralph Spoilsport
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They both provide some relief from the predictable me-too type of comments that are getting more common around here. ZH should be a big tent that even these camels can get their nose under. Ya gotta admit, what Karaio posted above is funny in a Brazinglish kinda way.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 16:25 | 5376976 IndyPat
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Oh, I think the trolls get their say plenty...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:34 | 5376372 ajax
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Weakness, desperation, whatever. At least this one had enough class not to fall from some high place and injure the passers-by below...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:44 | 5376391 Escrava Isaura
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ajax

I think your idea (in not hurting others on the way down) should be mandatory.

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:35 | 5376691 Ralph Spoilsport
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Now that's funny!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:45 | 5376718 Payne
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so what, you are using statistics to make your point, like the NAR.  Now find the statistics for people in the Banking industry making more than $200,000 a year,  Not so many.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:19 | 5376158 NoDebt
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Yeah, I got beat out for that job by the rope guy.  Everyone tells me the nailgun is too "high profile" and "raises too many questions".  Shit.  Just to pay the bills I've started doing "hot tub" jobs on the side.

It's pathetic.  Nobody's got any balls any more.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:27 | 5376181 MsCreant
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Sooo with a hot tub job, do you use a caulking gun? A trowel to "cement" the deal?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:39 | 5376224 Mr. Ed
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Hah!  LMAO!

What I;d like to know (from someone in the "business", from a professional, if possible) is just what can a hanging cover up forensically speaking?

How about a garroting?  A broken neck? I imagine it would be a lot easier to have someone "hang themselves" if they were paralyzed first...

How about strangulation?  And, how thoroughly is this sort of thing investigated?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:42 | 5376232 Thanatos
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How thoroughly investigated?

Depends on a lot of factors.

The 5 W's to start with.

 

Can't comment on your other questions.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:47 | 5376251 kowalli
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And, how thoroughly is this sort of thing investigated?

Why they should investigate suicide? Political murders not investigated, they are discussed behind the doors

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:53 | 5376267 Karaio
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Assista C.S.I!

:-)

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:03 | 5376293 CrazyCooter
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Google ... first result ... "hanging forensics" ...

Skip down to Homicidal Hanging:

CAUTION: Creepy side graphics

http://www.forensicpathologyonline.com/e-book/asphyxia/hanging

Seems that murder by hanging is "extremely rare" according to this guy. Any sign of struggle would show it isn't a suicide, which is very difficult to do apparently.

Regards,

Cooter

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:14 | 5376316 FeralSerf
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It's been suggested that sometimes these "suicides" aren't very carefully investigated. Perhaps there were some struggles or even a whiff of starting fluid that "inadvertently" were overlooked. "Mistakes" sometimes "happen".

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:19 | 5376328 CoolBeans
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If a person were incapcitated first, it would seem plausible that they could then be murdered.  Too many of these folks -- not coincidences.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:44 | 5376542 max2205
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I love the smell of cloroform in the morning.  It smells like victory.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 15:30 | 5376842 CoolBeans
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"Incapacitated"

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 18:14 | 5377231 Handful of Dust
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Commiting suicide by shooting yourself in the head 2 or 3 times is "extremely rare" also but it happens [so they report]:

 

Hong Kong police confirmed tenth day a police chief inspector Eastern District named Andrew Philips suicide by gun at North Point police station early this morning.

 

Mr. Philips was found collapsed on the couch in the office on the second floor of the police station at North Point, with two gunshots to the head, senior officers Ip Chi-keung said at a press briefing on 1/10.

 

http://www.bubblews.com/news/8335491-hong-kong-police-chief-inspector-su...

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:28 | 5376333 Mr. Ed
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Oh thanks! (I think...)

This has gotten me thinking about some potential scenarios:   1) I'm descending the staircase from my 4th floor London flat one morning (assuming I were human) and I hear someone a few steps behind me.  2) At about the same time, a jolly fellow is climbing the stairs and arriving at the next landing in the staircase just as I do.  3) He utters a loud "Good morning Sir, how are you this fine day?" as we are about to go by each other on the landing.  4) Next I know from behind, I feel my neck suddenly twist violently to one side... my neck has been broken (professionally, of course) and I am paralyzed.  5) I have a dim awareness of being hoisted on a rope before going unconcious....

Phew!  I'm glad to learn that such things are "extremely rare"!

 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:34 | 5376363 CrazyCooter
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I had the same thought after reading a bit and thinking about it. Because "murder by hanging" is so rare, the investigation is easier to wrap up quick and neat. Also, I suspect it would be very difficult procedurally/legally to re-open it (e.g. family complaints), so that provides cover if there are insiders helping with a cover up.

So, I guess the trick is is that if you are a banker on a hit list, use lots of hidden cameras/mics with motion/sound detectors and have it auto-upload your crap off to a secure site and a trusted third party will get the encryption key through your will.

Regards,

Cooter

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:36 | 5376376 Mr. Ed
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Personally, I'd feel more comfortable in the witness relocation program!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:27 | 5376500 knukles
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Watchu bitchin' bout?  He was relocated.  So youse shut da fug ub or you'll be join'in' him, right Luigi?
Daszright boss.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 15:51 | 5376887 Urban Roman
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In your case, your head could show up on someone's pillow, while the rest of you goes to the dogfood and glue factory.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:56 | 5376421 jackstraw001
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"Seems that murder by hanging is "extremely rare" according to this guy."

So is jumping off buildings. You'd think TBTB would choose more conventional means to suicide their targets, i.e. pills, carbon monoxide, etc. if they really wanted these to have any plausibility. By employing such rare means, they're almost giving all of us the middle finger, aren't they?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:18 | 5376472 disabledvet
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Just use the internet.

You'd need a really good forensics team but first you need to find out if he had/was using a CPAP machine or had spent any time with a sleep disorder doctor.  More than likely he was waterboarded long before he was hung.

Far safer as a form of execution if you're dealing with an Ebola outbreak...if this is what it was.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 16:40 | 5377009 IndyPat
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Same as it ever was. Sounds like Germany has its very own P2 Lodge and its housecleaning time again...
Hanging, besides being an easy cover and an attention getting, is also a very symbolic act to those involved.

"The Italian Masonic Lodge P2 "provided a means of furnishing anti-Communist institutions in Europe and Latin-America with both Vatican and CIA funds. Calvi [who was found hanging under Blackfriars Bridge in London in 1982] also claimed that he personally had arranged the transfer of $20,000,000 of Vatican money to Solidarity in Poland, although the overall total sent to Solidarity is believed to have exceeded $100,000,000. Prior to his indictment for murder [of an Italian investigator], Michele Sindona was not only P2's financier, but the Vatican's investment counselor as well, helping the church to sell its Italian assets and re-invest in the United States. His services for the CIA included passing funds to 'friends' in Yugoslavia, as well as to the Greek colonels prior to their seizure of power in 1967. He also channeled millions of dollars into the funds of the Christian Democrats in Italy."

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:34 | 5376370 WillyGroper
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@Mr. Ed,

I can assure you the viewing of such leaves an indelibly etched memory for maximum effect.

I seem to recall a "R" & co. getting garotted in London years back.

We had an amurkin "R" crashed this year.

We had a senator's son crashed this year. He was the only one I new of that called global warming what it is. A hoax. Kinda shut up after losing his kid. But hey, he seems to have recovered nicely & in record time.

Hmmm, the crashes were both doctors.

Imagine that.  

Where's ekm1?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 17:11 | 5376192 ZH Snob
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I knew it was you.  can you send me your email again?  I know some people who, let's just say, have a need for such a service.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:30 | 5376198 Thanatos
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I'm waiting for someone to get creative..

The nailgun wasn't bad, but we need a series of toppers!!!

Someone could lock themselves in a cage with 80 starving dogs...

Someone could get a bunch of weather balloons some tape and go skydiving!

Someone could glue themselves to...

Eventually it'll make a GREAT series on Spike...

1000 Ways to Die... Banker Edition

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:02 | 5376263 Urban Redneck
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If Ebolaland marketed and exported their "artisans" who can easily put the Jigsaw Killer to shame... it would be interesting.

Then again, if the Mexican drug cartels had the PR machine of ISIS, the southern border would be secure.

So many sources of inspiration, so many banksters, so little time.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:09 | 5376306 Thanatos
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Meh.

Those guys are real "hacks"...

I'd give em points for brutality and psychological terror, they lack any real creativity.

It's debatable which crew of sicko's would be worse to deal with...

I'd say the W. Africans would be less tactically proficient and more likely to be whacked out on dope.

We need a few real artists that can make the magic happen.

Imagine a poor banker glued himself to a rocket and tried a shot into space?

Marijuana Gangstas and Cartels just don't have that kinda artistry.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:55 | 5376275 Karaio
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@ Thanatos: 

Amazing! 

I thought the same thing! 

:-)

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 15:55 | 5376911 Urban Roman
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Seppuku with a decorative antique letter opener.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:36 | 5376221 stant
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I guess some of those nails need to be silver for the ones with no image in a mirror. Anyway times are tough easy to be out bid

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:57 | 5376278 MarkAntony
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All these suicides bring to mind an interesting movie from the '90's: The Firm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Firm_%281993_film%29

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 17:01 | 5377037 IndyPat
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Really good commentary from an oddball source.

"The FOREX theory is one that might also have some legs to it, especially when it comes to JP Morgan and Deutsche Bank, who were both named in a lawsuit filed by investors in US District Court. Ten other banks were also named in the lawsuit. The plaintiffs claim to have evidence, such as electronic communications, proving the conspiracy to manipulate exchange rates had been going on since at least 2003...."

Worth a deeper dive by those with more of a background in the industry than I do, which is little to none...

Dated May 1 2014 ( Happy May Day! )
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2014/05/suicide-omen-or-political-murder-2...

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 11:00 | 5379140 pgroup
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Or The International.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:07 | 5376124 Anarchy 99
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Cosa Nostra

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:14 | 5376148 nmewn
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lol...hey, whatsamatta for you huh?

I'ma gonna have my brudda Vito come round and talk witcha ;-)

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:15 | 5376319 booboo
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Joey Bagadonuts?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:33 | 5376371 junction
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The U.S. government's modus operandi now resembles that of a Mafia crime family so it should be no surprise when someone named Gambino gets rubbed out. 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:10 | 5376629 NoPension
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Don't bad mouth the Mob. At least they have some honor.

Fucking pols and buerocrats, not so much.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 17:19 | 5377108 IndyPat
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Mob...or Gnomes?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnomes_of_Zürich

I think the AIG suicide got the ball rolling right up to the current ones...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/30/us-zurich-idUSBRE97T07P20130830

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:23 | 5376661 dogfish
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Middle class family from New York.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 06:08 | 5378640 escapeefromOZ
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Yes a Mafia family in USA !

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 02:33 | 5381226 SAT 800
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Worked at the SEC from '97-99; knew too much about the Madoff Scam; which had a new york mafia family member running the scam computer on the 17th. floor of Madoff's office bldg. in New York. He disappeared when Madoff took the fall and was never interviewed or investigated. When I say he disappeared, I mean he just went home to Brooklyn and nobody saw fit to ask him anything. Somebody might have decided this Gambino from the NY SEC was possibly going to start talking if he got under too much pressure. They like to clean up loose ends.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:32 | 5376201 AL_SWEARENGEN
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Another bought out bankster bastard taking the quick fucking way out.  The cocksuckers steal anything they can get their hands on.  It's a sickness, a dark hole they try to fill with ill evil deeds trying to satify their addiction to evil.  They lust for more and more.  For the love of money is the root of all evil.  Their own blood is on their hands, along with the blood of many others.  But the world being the word, it just smiles back at you and gives you a wink.  Just more blood the complicit government to sweep under the rug.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:46 | 5376247 gonetogalt
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Great to see you back, Al.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:13 | 5376632 NoPension
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....cocksucker.

:)

Edit. Cocksuckaa!

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:35 | 5376215 SilverDoctors
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Looks like Jim Willie's claim that these bankers are being taken out to prevent FOREX fraud whistle-blowing might have some merit. 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:55 | 5376269 Freddie
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Agreed.  It is funny how the zio media demonizes evil Putin on a daily basis yet we never see endless stories about suicided bankers in Russia.  

You know if it was happening it would be front page news with Putin's face on the cover and nuclear explosions for eye pupils like NewsWeak or the Economist used. 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 14:50 | 5376728 Payne
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That would require a real legal system !  Suicides are more common in China.  This might be the best sign that the Chinese are cleaning house after buying the Bank.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:09 | 5376308 WillyGroper
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ekm1 "nailed it". 

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:28 | 5376361 Berspankme
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Not enuff

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:51 | 5376403 TheMerryPrankster
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apparently he had misplaced his nail gun and had no other choice.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 16:45 | 5377017 Cal Wayback
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Something is up. A crash of monumental proportions is about to occur with derivatives as the catalyst. Funny thing people were jumping out of windows after the 1929 crash now their jumping out of windows before the next crash. I guess why wait.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 23:50 | 5378235 CASTBOUND
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Sat, 10/25/2014 - 10:59 | 5376100 JustPrintMoreDuh
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"Suicided" ;-)

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 10:58 | 5376103 sleigher
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Mandatory Suicide

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 13:24 | 5376494 PT
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Now I've got that song in my head.  Not complaining, it's all good.
For the uninitiated, go here for an education:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4e4RDhUwo

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:02 | 5376116 Aknownymouse
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Lets just say he was offered end of life counseling.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:19 | 5376157 bitterwolf
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lofl...thats rich...not that it helped him

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:24 | 5376167 SWRichmond
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Lets just say he was offered end of life counseling.

A: "I am here to take you into custody"

B: "What are your instructions if I resist arrest?"

A: "I am to shoot you."

B: "I resist arrest."

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:31 | 5376177 BorisTheBlade
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He was made an offer he could not refuse ... or accept and being a lawyer suicided himself out of unbearable confusion.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:25 | 5376174 Karaio
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Sim!

"Suicidado"!

hehe.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:00 | 5376106 Aknownymouse
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Tyler. Sleep with one eye open. And whatever you do, don't touch any ropes.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:24 | 5376173 RaceToTheBottom
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Stay out of stairways

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:31 | 5376200 XitSam
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Avoid tall buildings

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:33 | 5376212 AlaricBalth
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And always carry a clipboard for that extra layer of protection.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:00 | 5376282 Urban Redneck
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You may have written that with dripping sarcasm, but...

Know your enemy.

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(one company... over 170,000 units sold... your tax dollars at work... for their extra layer of protection)

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